Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
I'm using the Netidentity webmail - and it sucks, so sorry for any inconvenience.Try using the PhotoPrint.Unfortunately you can't use xcf files, so you need to save as tiff, or other formatsYou can get it here http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/photoprint.shtml mvh Mogens JægerFirst, do you have any suggestions at all about what I might do if Iwant to print with my own printer for which I have a profile? Sincemost users of gimp probably want to do just that, it would be veryhelpful if there were a way to do it. The only way I can think of is toboot Windows XP and use Photoshop, which I would rather not do. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
Hi, On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 12:46 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: But if I specify another output profile in vuescan, e.g., Adobe RGB, gimp converts to that as expected. It doesn't convert to that profile, it just keeps it and corrects the display appropriately. (I verified that using ImagePropertiesColor Profile.) Now, if I save that image iccdump apparently locates a profile, but then issues the error message Error - 1, icmHeader_read: ICC V4 not supported! That's a problem with the embedded profile and not at all related to GIMP. Or iccdump simply doesn't support version 4 of the ICC color profile specification. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
Hi, On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 12:46 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: First, do you have any suggestions at all about what I might do if I want to print with my own printer for which I have a profile? Since most users of gimp probably want to do just that, it would be very helpful if there were a way to do it. This needs support in the printer driver so we leave it up to the people developing these drivers and the printing frameworks to deal with this. GIMP only provides means to access the image's color profile. Hopefully this will be better supported at some point. For now I suggest you use Photoprint http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/photoprint.shtml Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
Hi, On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 17:31 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: How to use the display profile was fairly clear. Profiles for input files was very murky, but I eventually worked out what was happening there. One confusing thing was that if you specify in PreferencesColor Management that gimp Keep the embedded profile, the same thing happens---i.e. no indication---if that profile is the same as the default sRGB profile or if there is no embedded profile, so you can't tell at that point whether or not the source file had one. You can easily tell that by looking at the Image Properties dialog. It will show you the color profile that is being used for the image. Of course GIMP doesn't ask you if the image you are opening already is in your working color space. There's nothing to ask then. I think I understand generally how to do print simulation, but some points are unclear. Under PreferencesColor managementPrint simulation profile I specify a printer profile, and I then choose Mode of operation to be Print simulation. If I check the Mark out of gamut box, then it shows me colors that are not printable. If I don't check that box, I see various colors and I'm assuming that these are roughly the colors as they will be printed. That of course depends on the rendering intent which together with the profile should determine how colors are transformed so that everything ends up in gamut. That's correct. Have I got that right so far? One thing that confuses me is that I can either choose Color managed display or Print simulation as the Mode of operation, but not both. It doesn't seem to make sense for print simulation to ignore the display profile, but perhaps I am not understanding something. Of course the Print simulation does also take your monitor profile into account. I am completely at sea about how I use the print profile to actually print. Do I set the mode of operation to print simulation and then choose print from the file menu? Or do I put the print profile in the RGB profile slot and then print? Or is this as yet unavailable and dependent upon adding profile capability to gimp print or gutenberg? Printing is usually left to professional print services and they should do the right thing if you give them an RGB image with embedded color profile. If you print from within GIMP, there isn't any color management support yet. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
First, do you have any suggestions at all about what I might do if Iwant to print with my own printer for which I have a profile? Sincemost users of gimp probably want to do just that, it would be veryhelpful if there were a way to do it. The only way I can think of is toboot Windows XP and use Photoshop, which I would rather not do. Try using the PhotoPrint.Unfortunately you can't use xcf files, so you need to save as tiff, or other formatsYou can get it here http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/photoprint.shtml ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
Hi, On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 17:31 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: I am trying to use color management under gimp 2.4. Despite numerous google searches and posting to the gimp user group forum, I've been unable to find any useful documentation about how to use it. Color management in GIMP is very similar to color management in other popular image editors. It probably helps to read some introductory tutorials on color management written for other applications. At some point someone will hopefully write a decent color management section for the user manual. So far the only documentation is http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4-cm.html Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Color Management under gimp 2.4.
I am trying to use color management under gimp 2.4. Despite numerous google searches and posting to the gimp user group forum, I've been unable to find any useful documentation about how to use it. Through trial and error and many hours fumbling around, I've managed to decipher much of it, but I'm still unclear on some points. How to use the display profile was fairly clear. Profiles for input files was very murky, but I eventually worked out what was happening there. One confusing thing was that if you specify in PreferencesColor Management that gimp Keep the embedded profile, the same thing happens---i.e. no indication---if that profile is the same as the default sRGB profile or if there is no embedded profile, so you can't tell at that point whether or not the source file had one. With some searching I eventually found a couple of other places where that information is provided. I don't suppose it really makes any difference, but it was thoroughly confusing to me. I think I understand generally how to do print simulation, but some points are unclear. Under PreferencesColor managementPrint simulation profile I specify a printer profile, and I then choose Mode of operation to be Print simulation. If I check the Mark out of gamut box, then it shows me colors that are not printable. If I don't check that box, I see various colors and I'm assuming that these are roughly the colors as they will be printed. That of course depends on the rendering intent which together with the profile should determine how colors are transformed so that everything ends up in gamut. Have I got that right so far? One thing that confuses me is that I can either choose Color managed display or Print simulation as the Mode of operation, but not both. It doesn't seem to make sense for print simulation to ignore the display profile, but perhaps I am not understanding something. I am completely at sea about how I use the print profile to actually print. Do I set the mode of operation to print simulation and then choose print from the file menu? Or do I put the print profile in the RGB profile slot and then print? Or is this as yet unavailable and dependent upon adding profile capability to gimp print or gutenberg? Finally, I am unclear where else in various gimp menus and tools, color management shows up either in making choices or in providing information. If there is any other useful information about gimp color management that anyone can provide, I would appreciate it. -- Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mathematics Department, Northwestern University ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
