Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

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 My main worry is that someone out there has introduced a filepicker
 I can't use.  See mail subject. My workflow is seriously hampered by
 it. It shows no folder icons. I can't type filenames in it. The two
 applications I use the most; Mozilla (Gtk2) and Gimp, are now using
 a filepicker I can't use. THAT is a major problem. Probably to more
 than me.

That could have been fixed as easily if only you would have asked
nicely.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread David Neary
Hi,

This is mostly a binch of tips (and a disclaimer - I haven't read
the rest of the thread yet, so these may be duplicates)...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I
 could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during
 startup from the local dir about libgimpwidgets-2.0-104 couldn't be located.

You may have tried to install the GIMP 2.1 into the same
directory as the old GIMP, and this does not work. It's
documented in the README file, which you read, of course. ;)

I don't know how those errors manifest themselves, and I would
have expected something more subtle than this, but however...

 And even with a full install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the
 installation routine relink gimp to the new binary.

This is normal - since 2.1.x is a development series, we assume
that you will be doing day-to-day work with 2.0.x, and we leave
the gimp linking to gimp-2.0.

 I finally gave up and
 deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no plugins worked,
 and the filepicker has become an unusable mess... What on earth happened to the
 it? I can't use it anymore :(((

For the files, this is because xcf is loaded and saved in the
core, while every other format goes through a plug-in. Since
libgimp is not found, the plug-ins don't load, and are thus not
available.

You can use the old 2.0 plug-ins by doing something like ln -s
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ~/.gimp-2.1/plug-ins , but then you
will not have all the bug-fixes and previews which have gone into
the 2.1 series.

 There is nowhere to paste in the URLs (filepath/name).

Ctrl-F (Find) brings up a filename entry dialog box where you can
paste URLs or file paths.

 I used to browse my
 galleries in mozilla, and then paste the url/filepath+name into the gimp
 filepicker.

If this is your preferred way to browse files, then you might
consider dragging and dropping the URLs from the Location bar
into the toolbox of the GIMP. This even works for remote images
in web-pages, and drag  drop also works with multiple files, you
can drop files to the layers dock to have them added as layers to
your image, and DD also works for lots of other things (colours,
patterns, layer previews, etc).

 I tested it under Gnome too: There I can see icons at least. But I can't use
 Gnome for other reasons. I guess it all means that the Gimp has changed from a
 Gtk app to a Gnome app.

No, this isn't the case. Perhaps you are missing the icon themes,
which are an optional but reccommended component for the GIMP?

Regards,
Dave.

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Lyon, France
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You may have tried to install the GIMP 2.1 into the same
 directory as the old GIMP, and this does not work. It's
 documented in the README file, which you read, of course. ;)

 I don't know how those errors manifest themselves, and I would
 have expected something more subtle than this, but however...

See my other response in this thread. The error that the original
poster was seeing when starting up GIMP is completely unrelated to the
installation prefix he has choosen. He simply forgot to run ldconfig.

 You can use the old 2.0 plug-ins by doing something like ln -s
 /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ~/.gimp-2.1/plug-ins , but then you
 will not have all the bug-fixes and previews which have gone into
 the 2.1 series.

This won't work with 2.1.4 though since we accidentally broke the wire
protocol. It will work again with 2.1.5 (or current CVS).
 
 No, this isn't the case. Perhaps you are missing the icon themes,
 which are an optional but reccommended component for the GIMP?

He is missing at least one of the following:

- an icon theme that provides the icons
- the shared-mime-info package
- an entry in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 that tells gtk+ to use the icon theme
  (for example: gtk-icon-theme-name = gnome)

Alternatively upgrading to a recent GTK+-2.4 release would have fixed
the problem.

You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also Open Location in
the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or filenames to.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread David Neary
Hi,

Sven Neumann wrote:
 See my other response in this thread. The error that the original
 poster was seeing when starting up GIMP is completely unrelated to the
 installation prefix he has choosen. He simply forgot to run ldconfig.

Ah - I was under the impression that libtool took care of that at
install time nowadays.

 You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also Open Location in
 the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or filenames to.

Ah - I would have if I'd thought of it :)

Cheers,
Dave.

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Lyon, France
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-18 Thread rkaa
I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I
could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during
startup from the local dir about libgimpwidgets-2.0-104 couldn't be located.
And even with a full install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the
installation routine relink gimp to the new binary. I finally gave up and
deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no plugins worked,
and the filepicker has become an unusable mess... What on earth happened to the
it? I can't use it anymore :(((

There is nowhere to paste in the URLs (filepath/name). I used to browse my
galleries in mozilla, and then paste the url/filepath+name into the gimp
filepicker. Now I instead have to click myself dizzy to get anywhere. I can't
figure out where i can paste/write in the new filepicker. And to complicate
things further: There is no indication what is folders and what is files when i
run under KDE.

I tested it under Gnome too: There I can see icons at least. But I can't use
Gnome for other reasons. I guess it all means that the Gimp has changed from a
Gtk app to a Gnome app. This is very sad as it means 2.1.* is made extremely
hard to use under KDE. PLEASE change the filepicker back to the old one?!


Unhappy Gimp-user
R.K.Aa.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-18 Thread Owen Cook

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I
 could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during
 startup from the local dir about libgimpwidgets-2.0-104 couldn't be located.


You do not give many clues!

You are aware that 2.1.4 is a development version, and the README has
words to the effect All hell may break loose when installing this
program?

Did you build it in a different prefix to your Gimp-2.0.4. If you didn't,
then for sure all hell will break loose.


Owen

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