Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2013-07-17 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
For the record, I'm migrating my projects to Github mainly because of this, 
see:
https://code.google.com/p/psutil/issues/detail?id=407
I hope Google will eventually understand how serious this is and has been 
for the past 1.5 years now.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2013-02-06 Thread Mike
Well, it's been a year now since this issue was first reported.  Rated the 
second-highest issue of all time, by your users.  That updates page must 
have been *really* buggy, to take this long to bring back.  I guess you 
guys have been busy working on some exciting new things instead for the 
past year.  Let me check the What's 
Newhttp://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WhatsNewpage to learn about these 
new features.  Hmm... no?  nothing?

I know I'm not owed anything by GoogleCode.  I'm not a paying customer - I 
can't even *be* a paying customer (see the first-highest rated issue of all 
time http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=1829).  Even 
still, this complete apathy towards your user base is an embarrassment.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-09-07 Thread Mike
Well, it's been over 6 months, and 1) the activity page is still broken, 2) 
no explanation given from Google.  It's as if they just decided we're 
removing this useful feature from our site.  Why? Because f*ck you, that's 
why.  Guess you get what you pay for.  I would encourage anyone with a Git 
repository to try out GitHub.  They don't have an exact equivalent to the 
activity page, but you can watch projects, which allows you to track any 
future updates (I don't know if it gives you the full history, though).  
There's also an activity graph that shows how often / when changes have 
been coming in.  It's not as compact as the old activity icon, but what can 
you do...

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-08-15 Thread Mike
Hi Lennard,

Any news on that post-mortem report?

Mike


On Friday, March 9, 2012 11:41:41 AM UTC-5, Lennard de Rijk wrote:

 Hi Mike, 

 On Mar 9, 9:39 am, Mike nei...@atmosp.physics.utoronto.ca wrote: 
  Any feedback at all from Google?  Comments on Issue 24324 are 
  disabled, and we're directed to this thread which has no responses 
  from the developers. 
  

 I responded once ^_^, and I'd like to think I'm a developer. We are 
 watching, we are listening and if you are at PyCon you should get in 
 contact with our speakers[0], I'm sure they can tell you some 
 interesting tidbits about why this feature is gone. In the meantime we 
 are thinking about the hows, ifs and whats on bringing this back, but 
 we have not made any decision yet on whether this is feasible. It 
 really isn't as easy as some of you make it sound or I would totally 
 make it happen :). 

 On a more personal note, I'm going to figure out if we can post a 
 proper post-mortem on this. Which will hopefully shed some more light 
 on this situation. 

 - Lennard 

 [0] https://us.pycon.org/2012/schedule/presentation/315/ 


  The Updates page was awesome.  Part of my daily routine was sipping my 
  morning coffee while doing a quick check for any new commits/issues. 
  It baffles me how something so useful to so many people could removed 
  on a whim.  I don't know how things work at Google, but if I was 
  thinking of removing a feature of my software, I would at least open a 
  new issue with the proposed change (and justification), and gather 
  some feedback *before* pulling the rug out from under my users. 
  
  How hard is it to just put things back the way they were?  I mean, 
  this isn't a new feature request, it's something that was already 
  working (and working well!), that was subsequently removed.  Can't 
  they Google guys just roll back their changes while they work on a 
  better solution?  Or do they not use a version control system?  :P

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-05-26 Thread darthcloud
*Let's Face It, Google is evil now.*

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-05-23 Thread wes mcdaniel
They also are not mobile friendly - atom feeds do not work on Android
browser. This is no replacement for the real thing.

On May 22, 11:02 am, Brian Rayne rayn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've missed the updates listing since the very first day they tore it
 out.  I can get by opening multiple feeds every time I want to check
 on my project, but it still isn't nearly as convenient, and for some
 reason there's no word wrap (on issue updates feed) so I can't even
 skim through the text quickly when it goes off-screen.  The feeds also
 don't let me browse back further than the current page of changes.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Rayne
I've missed the updates listing since the very first day they tore it
out.  I can get by opening multiple feeds every time I want to check
on my project, but it still isn't nearly as convenient, and for some
reason there's no word wrap (on issue updates feed) so I can't even
skim through the text quickly when it goes off-screen.  The feeds also
don't let me browse back further than the current page of changes.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-05-18 Thread wes mcdaniel
True, but those don't go that far back and for the source changes
section only enumerates updates for the branch last updated. So if two
branches were updated in the same day, you'll only know one got
changed. Better than nothing, but not effecient or reliable.

This is so dumb. We've been completely abondoned and its obviously
nothing has been done to address this. They've just decided to not do
a thing and know that people will just adapt to a very ineffective
tracking system. Starring something means nothing to them. They do not
care about feedback from their users and that's quite apparant in
their other services. They do what they think and we can take it or
leave it (like this).

I've seen full games built/released in the time span since this has
been removed. It's a simple update page! Copying strings and
creating links and putting it all in the form of a list is about as
simple as things get. What the hell is going on with this???

Face it, they're not touching this service again unless it's to rip
things out. I'm quite sure they're eyeing the atom feeds now since you
brought them up. They probably didn't know they were even there and
now that they do, will deem them a stabilty risk and promptly gut the
code. Why leave something in that's useful if there's some edge case
that may cause a problem (therotically of course).

 Almost 3 months and almost 1000 people have spoke up and what's been
done? Nothing. What's been communicated? Nothing. What's been gained?
Stability? No. Unbelieveable.

On May 16, 8:58 am, j4ck.fr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since there hasn't been a reply yet, I've found the atom feeds 
 onhttp://code.google.com/p/{project-name}/feeds to be useful. That is, the
 Issue Updates and Source Changes Atom feed combined look a bit like the old
 Updates page - except they are two seperate feeds. Actually, the main
 reason I was frequenting the Updates page was to see what happened, who
 committed what, in order to do code reviews and stuff - updates to issues
 were more like a secondary gain while looking at the SCM activity.

 And here's the puzzling part: Are the Atom feeds as fragile as the
 Updates page? If yes, why are they still online? If no, why is the updates
 page not just a mashup of the two, sorted by date?

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-05-16 Thread j4ck . fr0st
Since there hasn't been a reply yet, I've found the atom feeds on 
http://code.google.com/p/{project-name}/feeds to be useful. That is, the 
Issue Updates and Source Changes Atom feed combined look a bit like the old 
Updates page - except they are two seperate feeds. Actually, the main 
reason I was frequenting the Updates page was to see what happened, who 
committed what, in order to do code reviews and stuff - updates to issues 
were more like a secondary gain while looking at the SCM activity.

And here's the puzzling part: Are the Atom feeds as fragile as the 
Updates page? If yes, why are they still online? If no, why is the updates 
page not just a mashup of the two, sorted by date?

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-05-06 Thread wes mcdaniel
Any update Google team? Please? I assume this is never coming back now
since it's been gone for several months and you're simply working on
the new feature. Can we get a status on that then? 725 people want
this basic functionality back. Can you reassure us our voices are
being heard and you're preparing something now?

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-04-15 Thread Wes McDaniel

Approaching 2 months now...can someone from Google please let us know
what the plan is here and when we can expect something to change?
Please. It's been a long time and thousands of people hate what has
happened. Can you please simply give us an update? I think we deserve
that.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-31 Thread neoedmund
GoogleCode team what's wrong in your head. I can't believe you turn
off the update function page while there are already so poor in
features of project hosting. You must have the internal API to access
the projects then not care of the feeling of the other users? Shame on
you.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-29 Thread Lennard de Rijk


On Mar 28, 6:33 am, Mike nei...@atmosp.physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 It's been a month now, and there's still no tangible information from
 the developers.  For a site that caters to open-source projects, it's
 a little disconcerting to be left in the dark like this, with vague
 responses about non-disclosure agreements.  Any status update would go
 a long way to restore my faith in this site, even if it's just we're
 working on it or that feature is gone forever because of the
 following reasons

I am not sure what a We're working on it will buy us since then
people will keep asking when it will come out. As a software developer
you must know that time is not infinite and one has to weigh in a lot
of factors when it comes to developing features and maintaining a
product. *Personally* I'd like to see this feature come back, I just
don't see it happening next week.


 Judging from the glacial response to bugs and feature requests, I'm
 guessing the developers are not assigned to Google Code on a full-time
 basis.

Uhm? We're just under closing 1 issue (not counting duplicates and
invalid issues) per working day over the last quarter or so while also
working on exciting new things that in my view trump the updates page,
especially for open source projects.

This is probably a side project that they work on whenever
 they have some free time...

I'll just say you are wrong here :).

it's definitely not at the top of Google's
 priority list.  It's a shame to see the site neglected like this.  It
 has a lot of potential if Google would see this as a viable business,
 instead of a hobby project that's left to collect dust on a shelf.  If
 Google isn't willing to pay for proper support for this site, then
 please release the codez, make Google Code itself an open-source
 project.  There's over 500 software developers vested in this issue
 alone; I'm sure you'd find one or two willing to help you sort this
 out!

I hear we are hiring - http://jobs.google.com . If you think you are
up for it you can try and join the team and work on this feature as
your first project :).

- Lennard

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-28 Thread Mike
It's been a month now, and there's still no tangible information from
the developers.  For a site that caters to open-source projects, it's
a little disconcerting to be left in the dark like this, with vague
responses about non-disclosure agreements.  Any status update would go
a long way to restore my faith in this site, even if it's just we're
working on it or that feature is gone forever because of the
following reasons

Judging from the glacial response to bugs and feature requests, I'm
guessing the developers are not assigned to Google Code on a full-time
basis.  This is probably a side project that they work on whenever
they have some free time... it's definitely not at the top of Google's
priority list.  It's a shame to see the site neglected like this.  It
has a lot of potential if Google would see this as a viable business,
instead of a hobby project that's left to collect dust on a shelf.  If
Google isn't willing to pay for proper support for this site, then
please release the codez, make Google Code itself an open-source
project.  There's over 500 software developers vested in this issue
alone; I'm sure you'd find one or two willing to help you sort this
out!

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-27 Thread Jevon Wright
Without the updates page, I don't know how to:

* See what issues have been recently reported. If you don't get e-mail
updates when new issues are reported, I think you are out of luck on
this one.
* See what revisions have recently been committed. This can be
achieved through SVN logs.
* See what wiki pages have recently been updated. This can be achieved
through SVN logs.
* See what downloads have recently been updated. I don't think there
is any way to see this information.
* And probably some other updates that I can't recall right now.

I'm hoping that Google brings back the page, albeit in a more reliable
form.

Jevon

On Feb 29, 2:25 pm, Dustin Carlino dabreegs...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page
 you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in
 particular, android --http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list).
 This was working about a week ago.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-27 Thread wes mcdaniel
Another week and still nothing. I've seen two projects I follow move
to github since this occured. I just don't understand it. From a
business side, all your doing is losing/upsetting customers. For what?
What has been gained by this? It should not take months to reimplement
basic, fundamental functionality back into this. For the last time, it
was fine before! No one, not a single person on here, had one issue
with it. Why was this removed? When is this coming back? How many more
customers do you want to lose before you stick a couple guys on this
for an afternoon to get back in the previous stable code?? This is
just so unbelieveable and it's absolutely dumbfounding. Respect has
been lost but it can be regained if the right corrective actions are
taken. C'mon Google! What are you waiting for?

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-22 Thread wes mcdaniel
Almost a month now, over 500 hundred stars (representing thousands of
users) and no real resonse. Please tell us the plans on bringing this
vital feature back. Any eta on its reimplementation? Can someone at
least just confirm that it IS on its way back, so we can breath a
little easier?

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-21 Thread Mike
1) Have a look at the top 20 or so open issues at
http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/list.  In particular, look at
the dates when they were first submitted.

2) Now, ask yourself, will the Updates page be fixed anytime in the
near future?

(Crying in a corner is an optional step 3).

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-18 Thread janila
I can say exactly the same. So I quote it. Google code is much less
valuable than it was before. And it worked. Even if it is fragile.
Better to have it than nothing.

On Mar 17, 2:21 am, Erlend Sogge Heggen e.so...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sincerely miss this feature, please bring it back.

 As a project manager, it was by far the quickest way for me to get a quick
 reading on our project's latest developments and issues all in one timeline.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-16 Thread Erlend Sogge Heggen
Sincerely miss this feature, please bring it back.

As a project manager, it was by far the quickest way for me to get a quick 
reading on our project's latest developments and issues all in one timeline.

On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:25:22 PM UTC-8, Dustin Carlino wrote:

 The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page 
 you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in 
 particular, android -- http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list). 
 This was working about a week ago.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-09 Thread Mike
Any feedback at all from Google?  Comments on Issue 24324 are
disabled, and we're directed to this thread which has no responses
from the developers.

The Updates page was awesome.  Part of my daily routine was sipping my
morning coffee while doing a quick check for any new commits/issues.
It baffles me how something so useful to so many people could removed
on a whim.  I don't know how things work at Google, but if I was
thinking of removing a feature of my software, I would at least open a
new issue with the proposed change (and justification), and gather
some feedback *before* pulling the rug out from under my users.

How hard is it to just put things back the way they were?  I mean,
this isn't a new feature request, it's something that was already
working (and working well!), that was subsequently removed.  Can't
they Google guys just roll back their changes while they work on a
better solution?  Or do they not use a version control system?  :P

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-09 Thread Lennard de Rijk
Hi Mike,

On Mar 9, 9:39 am, Mike nei...@atmosp.physics.utoronto.ca wrote:
 Any feedback at all from Google?  Comments on Issue 24324 are
 disabled, and we're directed to this thread which has no responses
 from the developers.


I responded once ^_^, and I'd like to think I'm a developer. We are
watching, we are listening and if you are at PyCon you should get in
contact with our speakers[0], I'm sure they can tell you some
interesting tidbits about why this feature is gone. In the meantime we
are thinking about the hows, ifs and whats on bringing this back, but
we have not made any decision yet on whether this is feasible. It
really isn't as easy as some of you make it sound or I would totally
make it happen :).

On a more personal note, I'm going to figure out if we can post a
proper post-mortem on this. Which will hopefully shed some more light
on this situation.

- Lennard

[0] https://us.pycon.org/2012/schedule/presentation/315/


 The Updates page was awesome.  Part of my daily routine was sipping my
 morning coffee while doing a quick check for any new commits/issues.
 It baffles me how something so useful to so many people could removed
 on a whim.  I don't know how things work at Google, but if I was
 thinking of removing a feature of my software, I would at least open a
 new issue with the proposed change (and justification), and gather
 some feedback *before* pulling the rug out from under my users.

 How hard is it to just put things back the way they were?  I mean,
 this isn't a new feature request, it's something that was already
 working (and working well!), that was subsequently removed.  Can't
 they Google guys just roll back their changes while they work on a
 better solution?  Or do they not use a version control system?  :P

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-09 Thread Oz
+100 This feature was highly valuable and missing it blinds the
developers to updates to the wiki pages, or closed issues.  The page
was highly convenient and quick way to see what is going on with a
project, and gauge how active a project really is ...etc.

Please bring back this feature.

- Oz

On Feb 28, 5:25 pm, Dustin Carlino dabreegs...@gmail.com wrote:
 The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page
 you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in
 particular, android --http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list).
 This was working about a week ago.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-06 Thread Christian Gunning
On Mar 5, 2:10 pm, wes mcdaniel wespipe...@gmail.com wrote:
 So where do we stand google? It's been a while now and obviously
 there's been a lot of outrage and loss of customers. The issue has
 been starred almost 400 times! What more do you want?

+1.

I just spent an hour trying to figure out why/how updates stopped
working.  Yes, I googled, read the Project Hosting blog, FAQ,
documentation, tried various feeds, etc.  For maximum confusion, there
are now chunks of current documentation that still refer to
updates.

I was so excited to re-discover all of GPH's wonderful features, but
the platform is going to change beneath me without notice or
explanation is ham-handed at best.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-06 Thread Giampaolo Rodola'
I've just noticed it's gone.
Seriously, this was possibly one of the best features of GC.
If it was seriously broken then it makes sense to temporariliy disable as 
long as it gets back to being healthy, but deciding to remove it completely 
without re-adding it in future makes no sense at all.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-05 Thread Eric
Please bring this feature back, it was incredibly useful to me:
I used it to see how active a project was.
I used it to see the summary of activities on my projects.

Please bring it back!

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-05 Thread wes mcdaniel
So where do we stand google? It's been a while now and obviously
there's been a lot of outrage and loss of customers. The issue has
been starred almost 400 times! What more do you want? Can you please
confirm you're bringing it back now? I can't image how upset you'll
make everyone if you actually decide against reversing this decision,
so I have to assume it's on its way back. Hopefully, you'll simply
reinstate former functionality to appease everyone who's trying to use
your service and then provide a different solution down the line if
you really want.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-04 Thread alex
I originally thought it was taken off by another group member when I
first noticed it. Looked everywhere for the option to turn in back on
in the Admin section, but I couldn't find it.

It was, without a doubt, THE most useful function on Googlecode, and
frankly, it was the only thing keeping me at Googlecode. Now that it's
gone, I'm going to close up my projects and go to a different hosting
site, or try hosting it myself. I simply can't use Googlecode without
the Updates tab.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-04 Thread Bruno Santos
My sincere apologies.

Indeed I wrongly speculated about this and I was not the first one
either. A few minutes after posting here, I read near the end of the
very same issue I posted about, a comment stating and I quote (comment
#17):
It's more of a side-effect of the removal of updates.

So once again, my apologies for speculating without any concrete
proof :(

On Mar 4, 2:02 am, Lennard de Rijk l...@google.com wrote:
 On Mar 3, 7:36 pm, Bruno Santos wyldc...@gmail.com wrote:

  What I find the funniest thing about all of this was that there is no
  reference to one of the major reasons why the Updates tab was taken
  down: people's emails and personal informations were popping up on the
  Updates page.
  Here's the issue:http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=5909

 Please do not speculate about the reasons. I can tell you that this is
 not one of them.

 - Lennard









  By what I can see, the atom feeds don't reveal as much information;
  possibly these might be easier to filter as well.

  On Mar 3, 5:46 pm, ingo.wechs...@googlemail.com wrote:

   That is a nice summary. I fully support this view.

   It's now Google's turn to show if and how much it values the wants, habits
   and needs of us.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-03 Thread ingo . wechsung
That is a nice summary. I fully support this view.

It's now Google's turn to show if and how much it values the wants, habits 
and needs of us.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-03 Thread Lennard de Rijk


On Mar 3, 7:36 pm, Bruno Santos wyldc...@gmail.com wrote:
 What I find the funniest thing about all of this was that there is no
 reference to one of the major reasons why the Updates tab was taken
 down: people's emails and personal informations were popping up on the
 Updates page.
 Here's the issue:http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=5909

Please do not speculate about the reasons. I can tell you that this is
not one of them.

- Lennard


 By what I can see, the atom feeds don't reveal as much information;
 possibly these might be easier to filter as well.

 On Mar 3, 5:46 pm, ingo.wechs...@googlemail.com wrote:







  That is a nice summary. I fully support this view.

  It's now Google's turn to show if and how much it values the wants, habits
  and needs of us.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-03 Thread scanff
I used the updates tab to view source when a project removed the
source tab.  So how the heck is someone unfamiliar with Google code
know if a project contains source? This is not open source friendly.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-02 Thread ingo . wechsung
Same her.
Meanwhile, the link is gone and also the little widget that used to show 
high/little/low activity.?

Any comments form Google?

Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 02:25:22 UTC+1 schrieb Dustin Carlino:

 The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page 
 you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in 
 particular, android -- http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list). 
 This was working about a week ago.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-02 Thread Lennard de Rijk


On Friday, March 2, 2012 8:57:51 AM UTC-5, ingo.w...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Same her.
 Meanwhile, the link is gone and also the little widget that used to show 
 high/little/low activity.?

 Any comments form Google?


The statement that was given was:

We have turned off updates because the implementation was fragile. We are 
focusing our efforts on features we think will have more impact.


Feel free to star the aforementioned issue and let us know how this affects 
you :).
 
- Lennard

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-02 Thread Mikheil Sukhiashvili
Comment from google is it was broken, cause it was fagile. (/
facepalm)
There is an issue related to this:
http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=24324

Comments were disabled to stop angry bashing.

On Mar 2, 2:57 pm, ingo.wechs...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Same her.
 Meanwhile, the link is gone and also the little widget that used to show
 high/little/low activity.?

 Any comments form Google?

 Am Mittwoch, 29. Februar 2012 02:25:22 UTC+1 schrieb Dustin Carlino:









  The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page
  you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in
  particular, android --http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list).
  This was working about a week ago.

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-03-02 Thread Rene
I got here because the issue at
http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=24324colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Priority%20Stars%20Owner%20Summary
was closed for comments but somehow Google wants to keep up the
conversation by directing us here. The last comment said:

 Of course if you have anything to add I welcome you
 all to join the existing thread on our Google Group

What should we add? I think everything has been said but it might be
required to summarize it a little bit.

* The updates page was removed from all projects including the
activity meter.

* Many people complained about that within a few hours.

* Nobody understood the reason why the page has been removed.

* The issue has been starred by more than 300 people which puts it
into the top 5 issues (within 3 days).

* The use case is also very clear: There are many users who want to
see if a project is active or not so that they do not download
software that is badly supported later. And there are many users who
want to see at a single glance what happened in the project to react
to comments etc.

* A few work arounds have been suggested but none can fully replace
the updates page.


In my opinion, everything has been said. I am now waiting to get some
new information from your side (you = Google). If there is anything
that you (Google) want to know, just ask. Otherwise I think it is time
for some well-founded explanations or even better a decision to bring
the old updates page back or a new one.

Best regards!


René

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Re: Bug report: project activity broken

2012-02-29 Thread anatoli
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:25:22 AM UTC+3, Dustin Carlino wrote:

 The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page 
 you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in 
 particular, android -- http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list). 
 This was working about a week ago.


Sign here - http://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=24324 

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Bug report: project activity broken

2012-02-28 Thread Dustin Carlino
The Activity page under Project information is broken (The page
you asked for does not exist.) for all projects I've checked (in
particular, android -- http://code.google.com/p/android/updates/list).
This was working about a week ago.

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