Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-25 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi devs,

-- yet inofficial note --

the final GRASS GIS 6.4.4 release has been published:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4-News

To be done:
- create binaries (will notify the packagers later today)
- update CMS
- write announcement
- publish it officially

best
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-18 Thread Markus Neteler
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Martin Landa  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2014-06-17 19:54 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
>>> Needs improvement:
>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News
>>
>> ... also a volunteer is seeked who scans the updates in the post-6.4.3
>> ChangeLog and merges them into above trac page.
>
> I went through svn log and tried to updated trac accordingly.

Thanks for this job!

> Part of
> the log messages were very *cryptic*, PLEASE COMITTERS, TRY TO WRITE
> YOUR LOGS IN READABLE WAY (TO BE REUSED FOR NEWS), ie. "name of
> module/library: description (possible trac ticket or merge commit).
> THANKS.

+1

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-17 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2014-06-17 19:54 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
>> Needs improvement:
>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News
>
> ... also a volunteer is seeked who scans the updates in the post-6.4.3
> ChangeLog and merges them into above trac page.

I went through svn log and tried to updated trac accordingly. Part of
the log messages were very *cryptic*, PLEASE COMITTERS, TRY TO WRITE
YOUR LOGS IN READABLE WAY (TO BE REUSED FOR NEWS), ie. "name of
module/library: description (possible trac ticket or merge commit).
THANKS.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-17 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>> I'll try to do prepare RC1 later today or tomorrow.
>
> I have done the tagging: release_20140614_grass_6_4_4RC1
>
> Needs improvement:
> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

... also a volunteer is seeked who scans the updates in the post-6.4.3
ChangeLog and merges them into above trac page.

Markus

> All the other news and CMS updates (will do later) + binary
> complilations need to be done, too.
>
> Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-15 Thread Martin Landa
Hi Markus,

2014-06-14 15:20 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>> I'll try to do prepare RC1 later today or tomorrow.
>
> I have done the tagging: release_20140614_grass_6_4_4RC1
>
> Needs improvement:
> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News
>
> All the other news and CMS updates (will do later) + binary
> complilations need to be done, too.

thanks! Binaries for Windows are online (32bit only) - both standalone
[1] and osgeo4w.

Thanks for testing in advance! Martin

[1] 
http://grass.osgeo.org/grass64/binary/mswindows/native/WinGRASS-6.4.4RC1-1-Setup.exe

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-14 Thread Markus Neteler
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> I'll try to do prepare RC1 later today or tomorrow.

I have done the tagging: release_20140614_grass_6_4_4RC1

Needs improvement:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

All the other news and CMS updates (will do later) + binary
complilations need to be done, too.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-13 Thread Markus Neteler
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
...
> I'm not standing in your way, especially in light of the limited time we all
> seem to have.

I'll try to do prepare RC1 later today or tomorrow.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-13 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 12/06/14 22:20, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:

On 12/06/14 00:15, Markus Neteler wrote:


[...]


I'll wait for Moritz' ok since he objected to let me tag it.



I don't know where you got that idea from.



I got that from email from you:

---
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Moritz Lennert

I think (also in line with the above) a clear freeze announcement has to go
out first to give a 24-48h warning to everyone. Then RC1 can be tagged.


This says "I think" so is just a voicing of opinion, it's not a veto. If 
voicing a suggestion is seen as blocking progress, then that's a sad 
state of affairs.



But let me do RC1 first :-)


I'm not standing in your way, especially in light of the limited time we 
all seem to have.


Moritz

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-12 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi Moritz, all,

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Moritz Lennert
...
>>  if you had applied the proposed procedure when it was proposed [1],
>> we would be really close to RC2 by now...

If "you" means me: as pointed out I was travelling, now travelling
again. I had time before when responses were slow.

BTW: I forgot to mention that release management had a long been existing:

http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Release_Roadmap
- GRASS 6.1 Feature Plan
- GRASS 6.2 Feature Plan
- GRASS 6.3 Feature Plan
- GRASS 6.4 Feature Plan
--> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass6Planning

As you see, nobody cared in the past 2 years. That's how it is. Or was?
Of course I am happy to make a new attempt, maybe it works out nowadays.

Best
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-12 Thread Markus Neteler
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
> On 12/06/14 00:15, Markus Neteler wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Martin Landa 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2014-06-10 23:15 GMT+02:00 Martin Landa :
>
> Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
> for 6.4.4 RC1.


 Let's tag RC1, otherwise we stay on the same place for other
 days/weeks/months.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we can go ahead... Martin
>>
>>
>> I'll wait for Moritz' ok since he objected to let me tag it.
>
>
> I don't know where you got that idea from.


I got that from email from you:

---
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
> On 31/05/14 23:19, Markus Neteler wrote:
>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Moritz Lennert
...
>>> - RC1 beginning of next week
>>
>> Should that happen then?
>
> I think (also in line with the above) a clear freeze announcement has to go
> out first to give a 24-48h warning to everyone. Then RC1 can be tagged.
>
> Sorry, but I won't be of much help these days as we've started exams here
> and I'll be busy with that almost all week.
---


... it exceeded as I explained to you my available time window.
Perhaps some people underestimate the amount of work to prepare a
release, even a RC. So I just remind you that a bit more than just
launching the "svn tag" is involved. And the number of broken releases
in the past is close to zero.


> I proposed a more structured process of doing it, that's all.

... which is generally fine.

> Since this proposal has not met with any
> concrete feedback, other than it shouldn't be applied for 6.4, I'll just get
> out of the way and let you handle things the way you want to.

We have 19 "virtual" full time developers according to ohloh. I cannot
speak for the others but I want to get RC1 done since it is *only* a
release candidate and nothing else. Then we can consider to even apply
a new procedure. Just please let us do this RC1 - the planning
accouncement is from mid of Nov 2013, so probably enough time ago.
Surely I can retired from GRASS 6 maintenance if that opens up things.
But let me do RC1 first :-)

> Let me just add (gratuitously, I'm aware of that, but I'm a bit tired of a
> process where people make clear and concrete suggestions on an issue, but
> the content of these suggestions is just ignored, and the people who made
> them are then blamed that nothing advances) that if you had applied the
> proposed procedure when it was proposed [1], we would be really close to RC2
> by now...

Yes, if more feedback would come I would be happy as well.

Markus

> Moritz
>
> [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2014-May/069126.html
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-12 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 12/06/14 00:15, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Martin Landa  wrote:

2014-06-10 23:15 GMT+02:00 Martin Landa :

Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
for 6.4.4 RC1.


Let's tag RC1, otherwise we stay on the same place for other days/weeks/months.


I think we can go ahead... Martin


I'll wait for Moritz' ok since he objected to let me tag it.


I don't know where you got that idea from. I proposed a more structured 
process of doing it, that's all. Since this proposal has not met with 
any concrete feedback, other than it shouldn't be applied for 6.4, I'll 
just get out of the way and let you handle things the way you want to.


Let me just add (gratuitously, I'm aware of that, but I'm a bit tired of 
a process where people make clear and concrete suggestions on an issue, 
but the content of these suggestions is just ignored, and the people who 
made them are then blamed that nothing advances) that if you had applied 
the proposed procedure when it was proposed [1], we would be really 
close to RC2 by now...


Moritz

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-11 Thread Markus Neteler
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Martin Landa  wrote:
> 2014-06-10 23:15 GMT+02:00 Martin Landa :
>>> Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
>>> for 6.4.4 RC1.
>>
>> Let's tag RC1, otherwise we stay on the same place for other 
>> days/weeks/months.
>
> I think we can go ahead... Martin

I'll wait for Moritz' ok since he objected to let me tag it.

Markus (offline on Thursday)
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-11 Thread Martin Landa
2014-06-10 23:15 GMT+02:00 Martin Landa :
>> Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
>> for 6.4.4 RC1.
>
> Let's tag RC1, otherwise we stay on the same place for other 
> days/weeks/months.

I think we can go ahead... Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-11 Thread Martin Landa
2014-06-11 11:29 GMT+02:00 Moritz Lennert :
> I did not say without defined timeline within the process, but not
> fixed-date. IOW, if we want to keep up a minimum with the reputation of

ah, OK. Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-11 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 11/06/14 10:30, Martin Landa wrote:

Hi,

2014-06-11 10:01 GMT+02:00 Moritz Lennert :


I still believe that such a more clearly defined process (and again, I'm
_not_ speaking about fixed-date releases) would help, but apparently I'm the


could you please explain a bit, how do you want to set up clear
release process without defined timeline?


I did not say without defined timeline within the process, but not 
fixed-date. IOW, if we want to keep up a minimum with the reputation of 
fairly stable software, I don't think that for a project such as GRASS 
it would be a good idea to say "we'll have a release every six months, 
one in January and one in July". Rather, I think that to avoid the 
discussions we've had concerning which types of code modifications 
should go into a specific branch at which times and who decides what 
goes in and what does not, we should define the procedure more clearly. 
This also includes a clear calendar of the process itself.


I'll draft an RFC.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-11 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2014-06-11 10:01 GMT+02:00 Moritz Lennert :

> I still believe that such a more clearly defined process (and again, I'm
> _not_ speaking about fixed-date releases) would help, but apparently I'm the

could you please explain a bit, how do you want to set up clear
release process without defined timeline?

> only one who thinks so.

You are not the only one, but it takes some time to discuss and set up
(ideally as RFC). So it's topic for GRASS 7 not GRASS 6, thats all.

Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-11 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 10/06/14 23:07, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:
...

And back to the main topic, I'm bit lost in 6.4 releasing, is something
blocking the release? (Except for limited time Markus have for it.)


I had enough time in the past two weeks.

The blocker is the wish of Moritz to start a full announcement cycle
of dealing with the release management which has been historically
ignored. Also his suggestion has been ignored so far, not giving much
hope for a real one.


I never intended for my suggestion to be a blocker. I had hoped it would 
help apease the conflicts that seemed to arise around the 6.4.4 release.


I still believe that such a more clearly defined process (and again, I'm 
_not_ speaking about fixed-date releases) would help, but apparently I'm 
the only one who thinks so.


Moritz
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Helmut Kudrnovsky
> And back to the main topic, I'm bit lost in 6.4 releasing, is something
blocking the release? 

as there are no blockers, the most simple thing is just tag and prepare RC1
let the nice work of coding into the wild.



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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2014-06-10 23:29 GMT+02:00 Vaclav Petras :

> For me email with "6.4.4*planning" was the announcement of the current one.
> We for sure want some fixed time-based release cycle for 7 but there is no
> reason to not release if it is ready just because of missing policy (there
> will be next release soon, right? so you everybody can push his changes
> there).

I complete agree, lets tag 6.4.4RC1 today/tomorrow. Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Vaclav Petras
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Martin Landa 
wrote:

> 2014-06-10 23:07 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
>
> > The blocker is the wish of Moritz to start a full announcement cycle
> > of dealing with the release management which has been historically
> > ignored. Also his suggestion has been ignored so far, not giving much
> > hope for a real one.
>
> That's completely unrealistic. We can start such procedure with G7
> (time-based release policy).
>
> > Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
> > for 6.4.4 RC1.
>
> Let's tag RC1, otherwise we stay on the same place for other
> days/weeks/months.
>
> For me email with "6.4.4*planning" was the announcement of the current
one. We for sure want some fixed time-based release cycle for 7 but there
is no reason to not release if it is ready just because of missing policy
(there will be next release soon, right? so you everybody can push his
changes there).

Martin
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Martin Landa
2014-06-10 23:07 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :

> The blocker is the wish of Moritz to start a full announcement cycle
> of dealing with the release management which has been historically
> ignored. Also his suggestion has been ignored so far, not giving much
> hope for a real one.

That's completely unrealistic. We can start such procedure with G7
(time-based release policy).

> Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
> for 6.4.4 RC1.

Let's tag RC1, otherwise we stay on the same place for other days/weeks/months.

Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Markus Neteler
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Vaclav Petras  wrote:
...
> And back to the main topic, I'm bit lost in 6.4 releasing, is something
> blocking the release? (Except for limited time Markus have for it.)

I had enough time in the past two weeks.

The blocker is the wish of Moritz to start a full announcement cycle
of dealing with the release management which has been historically
ignored. Also his suggestion has been ignored so far, not giving much
hope for a real one.

Personally I believe that getting-things-done is the better approach
for 6.4.4 RC1.

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Vaclav Petras
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

>
> >> Please note ... the OSGeoLive feature freeze for the FOSS4G Portland
> >> conf is upcoming. Would be a pity to not even see 6.4.4 therein!
> >
> > I'm a bit more available in the next weeks, so I can help with this
> process.
> > Just let me know.
>
> Unless we don't start tagging one day it will never reach the OSGeoLive
> DVD.
> Their freeze is the 6 July 2014 according to Cameron's email. And indeed
> we need
> to have GRASS 7 in it for our upcoming workshop but that's offtopic
> for this email thread.


It's off topic but that's actually a valid note. Do we aim on having 6.4 or
7.0 in next OSGeo Live. We cannot have both, in

[Workshops] [Live-demo] OSGeoLive in FOSS4G 2014 workshops?
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference-workshops/2014-June/000538.html

Cameron Shorter says:

> To date we only have one version of each application installed on
OSGeo-Live, and I don't think we should break that policy.
> (We aim to ensure a clear and simple experience for new users).
> So I think we should only have one version of GRASS installed.

So 6.4 or 7.0. And this might be complication for QGIS GRASS plugin.

And back to the main topic, I'm bit lost in 6.4 releasing, is something
blocking the release? (Except for limited time Markus have for it.)

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Markus Neteler
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
> On 06/06/14 21:43, Markus Neteler wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Moritz Lennert 
>> wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> As I've already told Markus off-list, I think that in order for this to
>>> work
>>> we would need a clearly defined release-process with clear announcements
>>> of
>>> the different steps (pre-freeze warning sufficiently early, freeze
>>> announcement, pre-tag announcement, etc) and a strict respect of the
>>> rules
>>> during this process (i.e. no non bugfix commits during a freeze), etc.
>>
>>
>> It doesn't seem to happen.

[I referred to the lack of responses in a sarcastic way :-) ]

> At this stage there have never been clear announcements, easily identifiable
> as such for all developers. We should not assume that every developer reads
> every thread. Thus, such announcements should be outside of existing
> threads, and clearly marked in the subject.

Sure. But I may mention that I do these releases since end of 1997 and
any attempt in the past to implement a *respected* release schedule
failed! See the archive for older attempts.

>> Please note ... the OSGeoLive feature freeze for the FOSS4G Portland
>> conf is upcoming. Would be a pity to not even see 6.4.4 therein!
>
> I'm a bit more available in the next weeks, so I can help with this process.
> Just let me know.

Unless we don't start tagging one day it will never reach the OSGeoLive DVD.
Their freeze is the 6 July 2014 according to Cameron's email. And indeed we need
to have GRASS 7 in it for our upcoming workshop but that's offtopic
for this email thread.

Markus  (who feels a bit blocked by some developers)
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-10 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 06/06/14 21:43, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Moritz Lennert  wrote:
...

As I've already told Markus off-list, I think that in order for this to work
we would need a clearly defined release-process with clear announcements of
the different steps (pre-freeze warning sufficiently early, freeze
announcement, pre-tag announcement, etc) and a strict respect of the rules
during this process (i.e. no non bugfix commits during a freeze), etc.


It doesn't seem to happen.



At this stage there have never been clear announcements, easily 
identifiable as such for all developers. We should not assume that every 
developer reads every thread. Thus, such announcements should be outside 
of existing threads, and clearly marked in the subject.




Please note ... the OSGeoLive feature freeze for the FOSS4G Portland
conf is upcoming. Would be a pity to not even see 6.4.4 therein!


I'm a bit more available in the next weeks, so I can help with this 
process. Just let me know.


Moritz

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-06 Thread Markus Neteler
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Moritz Lennert  wrote:
...
> As I've already told Markus off-list, I think that in order for this to work
> we would need a clearly defined release-process with clear announcements of
> the different steps (pre-freeze warning sufficiently early, freeze
> announcement, pre-tag announcement, etc) and a strict respect of the rules
> during this process (i.e. no non bugfix commits during a freeze), etc.

It doesn't seem to happen.

Please note ... the OSGeoLive feature freeze for the FOSS4G Portland
conf is upcoming. Would be a pity to not even see 6.4.4 therein!

> I'm not convinced that a time-based release-policy is the solution, but I
> think a more clearly defined release-process policy might help in avoiding
> frustrations.

So let's see then...

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-05 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2014-06-05 17:47 GMT+02:00 Moritz Lennert :

[...]

> As I've already told Markus off-list, I think that in order for this to work
> we would need a clearly defined release-process with clear announcements of
> the different steps (pre-freeze warning sufficiently early, freeze
> announcement, pre-tag announcement, etc) and a strict respect of the rules
> during this process (i.e. no non bugfix commits during a freeze), etc.
>
> I'm not convinced that a time-based release-policy is the solution, but I
> think a more clearly defined release-process policy might help in avoiding
> frustrations.

right, let's push out 6.4.4 somehow, new release policy is question for G7...

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-05 Thread Martin Landa
Hi Markus,

2014-06-05 9:56 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
> I would be able to tag RC1 tomorrow (Friday) if there are no objections.
>
> Are there any pending backports? I have some uncommitted fixes for
> r.pack and v.external but will not commit them to avoid another
> flamewar. :)

no objection for my side. From other project (GDAL for example) I got
feeling that RC period must be short. So e.g. RC2 or final one/two
weeks after RC1 Also reporting bunch of blockers during RC stage
can be interpreted as attempt to block release. I hope that for GRASS
7 will defined fixed time-based release policy with freeze stage
(one/two months - ideal time for reporting blockers), than simply
release and go on...

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-05 Thread Markus Neteler
hi all,

I would be able to tag RC1 tomorrow (Friday) if there are no objections.

Are there any pending backports? I have some uncommitted fixes for
r.pack and v.external but will not commit them to avoid another
flamewar. :)

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-02 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
> On 31/05/14 23:19, Markus Neteler wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Moritz Lennert
>>  wrote:
>> ...
>>>
>>> - Real freeze of grass64_release at the end of this week. This means that
>>> any backports from grass6_devel should happen before that moment. But
>>> only
>>> non-invasive and well-tested elements should be backported.
>>
>>
>> Seems nothing got backported in the past week any more:
>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/log/grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4
>
>
> At the same time, we did not officially announce the calendar (it was in a
> reply to a long-going thread...). But let's hope all the interested people
> saw the calendar.

Yes.

>>> - RC1 beginning of next week
>>
>>
>> Should that happen then?
>
>
> I think (also in line with the above) a clear freeze announcement has to go
> out first to give a 24-48h warning to everyone. Then RC1 can be tagged.
>
> Sorry, but I won't be of much help these days as we've started exams here
> and I'll be busy with that almost all week.

So I'll wait...

cheers
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-06-02 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 31/05/14 23:19, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
...

- Real freeze of grass64_release at the end of this week. This means that
any backports from grass6_devel should happen before that moment. But only
non-invasive and well-tested elements should be backported.


Seems nothing got backported in the past week any more:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/log/grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4


At the same time, we did not officially announce the calendar (it was in 
a reply to a long-going thread...). But let's hope all the interested 
people saw the calendar.




- RC1 beginning of next week


Should that happen then?


I think (also in line with the above) a clear freeze announcement has to 
go out first to give a 24-48h warning to everyone. Then RC1 can be tagged.


Sorry, but I won't be of much help these days as we've started exams 
here and I'll be busy with that almost all week.


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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-31 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
...
> - Real freeze of grass64_release at the end of this week. This means that
> any backports from grass6_devel should happen before that moment. But only
> non-invasive and well-tested elements should be backported.

Seems nothing got backported in the past week any more:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/log/grass/branches/releasebranch_6_4

> - RC1 beginning of next week

Should that happen then?

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-26 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2014-05-26 12:58 GMT+02:00 Moritz Lennert :

> I think we are not far at all from releasing, so maybe something like this:
>
> - Real freeze of grass64_release at the end of this week. This means that
> any backports from grass6_devel should happen before that moment. But only
> non-invasive and well-tested elements should be backported.
>
> - RC1 beginning of next week
>
> - Bug squashing effort during the two weeks that follow.
>
> - RC2 around June 15th.
>
> - Another week of bug squashing, if necessary.
>
> - Release of 6.4.4 by end of June, the latest.
>
> That sound ok ?
>

sounds good to me... Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-26 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 25/05/14 09:32, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:

On 15/05/14 23:14, Markus Neteler wrote:

...

Draft announcement to be updated:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News


"Important bugs concerning the next release"
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13


Here the full list of issues but none is a blocker:

https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=6.4.4





To test on Windows:
g.remove cannot remove vector map because of space in DB layer name
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1438



You note that this should be wontfix. What do you want to be tested ?


Right, nothing to be tested I guess. To be closed?


Yes.




-
r.walk backport
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1628


... not sure what to backport.


Markus Metz may have an idea.







v.kcv backport
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2035



See my comment in the ticket.


The vector overwrite issue in other mapsets seems to be a general
problem, see ticket.


Yes, and I think this is serious enough to solve this before release, 
even if people seem to have lived with it for a long time...





And/or I can tag RC1 now and we do these issues later.


I think that except for the r.walk segfault, none are really showstoppers.
And even that only seems to be reproducible in a very specific situation.


Given the recent discussion elsewhere I am stuck here.
Do you want me to tag RC1 or wait ...?



I think that we should try to structure the entire release process a bit 
more as we are currently dealing with two release processes in parallel 
(6 and 7) and I have the feeling that this is a bit overwhelming for our 
little team and that the lack of clear structure of the process leads to 
the frustrations seen on the list lately.


I would, therefore, propose to focus on 6.4.4 for now, getting that out 
of the door before we work on 7.0 (especially since there seem to be 
some fundamental issues to be solved before releasing anything).


I also think that we should work out a clear calendar for that release 
with official announcements of freeze policy.


I think we are not far at all from releasing, so maybe something like this:

- Real freeze of grass64_release at the end of this week. This means 
that any backports from grass6_devel should happen before that moment. 
But only non-invasive and well-tested elements should be backported.


- RC1 beginning of next week

- Bug squashing effort during the two weeks that follow.

- RC2 around June 15th.

- Another week of bug squashing, if necessary.

- Release of 6.4.4 by end of June, the latest.

That sound ok ?

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-25 Thread Markus Neteler
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Moritz Lennert
 wrote:
> On 15/05/14 23:14, Markus Neteler wrote:
...
>>> Draft announcement to be updated:
>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News
>>>
>> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13

 Here the full list of issues but none is a blocker:

 https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=6.4.4
>>>

>>> To test on Windows:
>>> g.remove cannot remove vector map because of space in DB layer name
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1438
>
>
> You note that this should be wontfix. What do you want to be tested ?

Right, nothing to be tested I guess. To be closed?

>>> r.univar NaN
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2269
>>
>> ... missing output to be changed (all GRASS versions).
>
>
> I see this more as an enhancement request than a bug. I don't think this
> should hold up a release.

ok.

>>> -
>>> r.walk backport
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1628
>>
>> ... not sure what to backport.

Markus Metz may have an idea.

>>> v.kcv backport
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2035
>>
> See my comment in the ticket.

The vector overwrite issue in other mapsets seems to be a general
problem, see ticket.

>> And/or I can tag RC1 now and we do these issues later.
>
> I think that except for the r.walk segfault, none are really showstoppers.
> And even that only seems to be reproducible in a very specific situation.

Given the recent discussion elsewhere I am stuck here.
Do you want me to tag RC1 or wait ...?

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-16 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 15/05/14 23:14, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

in order to prepare the 6.4.4RC1, please check:


Draft announcement to be updated:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News


"Important bugs concerning the next release"
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13


Here the full list of issues but none is a blocker:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=6.4.4


Here some relevant ones:


Thanks for having solved some of the issues in the past 24 hours.


To test on Windows:
g.remove cannot remove vector map because of space in DB layer name
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1438


You note that this should be wontfix. What do you want to be tested ?


r.univar NaN
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2269


... missing output to be changed (all GRASS versions).


I see this more as an enhancement request than a bug. I don't think this 
should hold up a release.






-
r.walk backport
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1628


... not sure what to backport.


v.kcv backport
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2035


... any objections to submit the patch?


See my comment in the ticket.



And/or I can tag RC1 now and we do these issues later.


I think that except for the r.walk segfault, none are really 
showstoppers. And even that only seems to be reproducible in a very 
specific situation.


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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-15 Thread Markus Neteler
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
 in order to prepare the 6.4.4RC1, please check:
>
> Draft announcement to be updated:
> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News
>
 "Important bugs concerning the next release"
 https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
>>
>> Here the full list of issues but none is a blocker:
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=6.4.4
>
> Here some relevant ones:

Thanks for having solved some of the issues in the past 24 hours.

> To test on Windows:
> g.remove cannot remove vector map because of space in DB layer name
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1438

... to be tested.

> -
> r.univar NaN
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2269

... missing output to be changed (all GRASS versions).

> -
> r.walk backport
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1628

... not sure what to backport.

> v.kcv backport
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2035

... any objections to submit the patch?

And/or I can tag RC1 now and we do these issues later.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-14 Thread Markus Neteler
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>> in order to prepare the 6.4.4RC1, please check:

Draft announcement to be updated:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

>>> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
>
> Here the full list of issues but none is a blocker:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=6.4.4

Here some relevant ones:

To test on Windows:

r.kappa: call to r.stats fails if spaces in path
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2116

g.remove cannot remove vector map because of space in DB layer name
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1438

-
v.external gui exceeds the border of the screen
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2159

r.univar NaN
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2269

-
r.walk backport
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1628

v.kcv backport
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2035

Perhaps some could be done before tagging RC1?

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-05 Thread Martin Landa
Hi Markus,

2014-05-05 20:52 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :

> Ready to tag RC1, I would say.

one big +1. Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-05 Thread Markus Neteler
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>> in order to prepare the 6.4.4RC1, please check:
>>
>> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13

Here the full list of issues but none is a blocker:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&group=status&milestone=6.4.4

Ready to tag RC1, I would say.

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2014-04-29 18:29 GMT+02:00 Markus Neteler :
> now v.buffer has been fixed by Markus Metz (using the GEOS library).
>
> Please test.
>
>> I have updated to some extent the draft release notes (please add more):
>> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

cool, I would say that it's time for RC1... Martin

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-04-29 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi,

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:
> Hi devs,
>
> in order to prepare the 6.4.4RC1, please check:
>
> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13

now v.buffer has been fixed by Markus Metz (using the GEOS library).

Please test.

> I have updated to some extent the draft release notes (please add more):
> https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-04-20 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi devs,

in order to prepare the 6.4.4RC1, please check:

"Important bugs concerning the next release"
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13

I have updated to some extent the draft release notes (please add more):
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-02-01 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi devs,

some time passed, so we should push RC1 out of the door:

Please check:

"Important bugs concerning the next release"
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13

and please help to complete the draft release notes:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

thanks
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2014-01-12 Thread Markus Neteler
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Michael Barton  wrote:
...
> Also, there is chatter in the terminal on opening nviz.
>
> GRASS_INFO_MESSAGE(75334,4): Loading raster map ...
> GRASS_INFO_END(75334,4)
>
> GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 0
> GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 3
> GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 6
> GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 9
> …

There is a similar ticket open:

https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/312

How to catch this GRASS_INFO_PERCENT output?

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-12-17 Thread Michael Barton
I started compiling GRASS 6.4, release branch last Friday but was only able to 
test it today. It seems to work fine under Mavericks for Mac.

Here are a couple a minor issues I noticed.

When I first tried to use nviz (3D display), it failed, with an error message 
in the console. But it worked fine every time since then, even after restarting 
GRASS.

Also, there is chatter in the terminal on opening nviz.

GRASS_INFO_MESSAGE(75334,4): Loading raster map ...
GRASS_INFO_END(75334,4)

GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 0
GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 3
GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 6
GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 9
…

and

GRASS_INFO_MESSAGE(75334,6): Translating colors from raster map 
...
GRASS_INFO_END(75334,6)

GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 0
GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 3
GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 6
GRASS_INFO_PERCENT: 9


Probably a simple fix if you know where to find it.

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At the moment, GRASS 6.5 is not compiling on the Mac under OS X 10.9 
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On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:23 PM, 
grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org> 
wrote:

From: Markus Neteler mailto:nete...@osgeo.org>>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning
Date: December 12, 2013 at 3:01:22 PM MST
To: GRASS developers list 
mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>>


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky 
mailto:hel...@web.de>> wrote:
Markus Neteler wrote
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Hamish
on the grass-user ML Markus N wrote:
(and it is time to get 6.4.4 out...)

"Important bugs concerning the next release"
 https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
...

see http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2138 for the actual state of python
addons in winGRASS6.5.svn/6.4.svn.

we are near to working python addon scripts in winGRASS :-)

this seem to be the one and only thing blocking 6.4.4RC1...
Any suggestions to get it done?

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-12-17 Thread Anna Petrášová
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> Hi Anna,
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Anna Petrášová 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I almost forgot about a patch for nviz which is now in GRASS 7 since
> August
> > [1]. It should be probably backported. I have been testing isosurfaces
> quite
> > a lot with different data and I have almost no crashes now. But I test
> only
> > on Linux. The reason for this patch is in this ticket [2].
> > So if you don't have any objection I will backport it.
>
> Please do - as we know things only get tested when easily usable. And
> at time we are planning for RC1 and not the final release.
> thanks
> Markus
>

done in  r58481, r58482

Anna


> > Anna
> >
> >
> > [1] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/57620
> > [2] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1736#comment:26
> >
> >
>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-12-12 Thread Markus Neteler
Hi Anna,

On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Anna Petrášová  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I almost forgot about a patch for nviz which is now in GRASS 7 since August
> [1]. It should be probably backported. I have been testing isosurfaces quite
> a lot with different data and I have almost no crashes now. But I test only
> on Linux. The reason for this patch is in this ticket [2].
> So if you don't have any objection I will backport it.

Please do - as we know things only get tested when easily usable. And
at time we are planning for RC1 and not the final release.
thanks
Markus

> Anna
>
>
> [1] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/57620
> [2] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1736#comment:26
>
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-12-12 Thread Michael Barton
At the moment, GRASS 6.5 is not compiling on the Mac under OS X 10.9 
(Mavericks).

Michaesl

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On Dec 12, 2013, at 11:23 PM, 
grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:grass-dev-requ...@lists.osgeo.org> 
wrote:

From: Markus Neteler mailto:nete...@osgeo.org>>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning
Date: December 12, 2013 at 3:01:22 PM MST
To: GRASS developers list 
mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>>


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky 
mailto:hel...@web.de>> wrote:
Markus Neteler wrote
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Hamish
on the grass-user ML Markus N wrote:
(and it is time to get 6.4.4 out...)

"Important bugs concerning the next release"
 https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
...

see http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2138 for the actual state of python
addons in winGRASS6.5.svn/6.4.svn.

we are near to working python addon scripts in winGRASS :-)

this seem to be the one and only thing blocking 6.4.4RC1...
Any suggestions to get it done?

Markus

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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-12-12 Thread Anna Petrášová
Hi,

I almost forgot about a patch for nviz which is now in GRASS 7 since August
[1]. It should be probably backported. I have been testing isosurfaces
quite a lot with different data and I have almost no crashes now. But I
test only on Linux. The reason for this patch is in this ticket [2].
So if you don't have any objection I will backport it.

Anna


[1] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/57620
[2] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1736#comment:26


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Markus Neteler  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky  wrote:
> > Markus Neteler wrote
> >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Hamish
> >>> on the grass-user ML Markus N wrote:
>  (and it is time to get 6.4.4 out...)
> >>>
> >>> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
> >>>   https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
> ...
>
> > see http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2138 for the actual state of
> python
> > addons in winGRASS6.5.svn/6.4.svn.
> >
> > we are near to working python addon scripts in winGRASS :-)
>
> this seem to be the one and only thing blocking 6.4.4RC1...
> Any suggestions to get it done?
>
> Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-12-12 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Helmut Kudrnovsky  wrote:
> Markus Neteler wrote
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Hamish
>>> on the grass-user ML Markus N wrote:
 (and it is time to get 6.4.4 out...)
>>>
>>> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
>>>   https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
...

> see http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2138 for the actual state of python
> addons in winGRASS6.5.svn/6.4.svn.
>
> we are near to working python addon scripts in winGRASS :-)

this seem to be the one and only thing blocking 6.4.4RC1...
Any suggestions to get it done?

Markus
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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-11-24 Thread Helmut Kudrnovsky
Markus Neteler wrote
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Hamish <

> hamish_b@

> > wrote:
>> on the grass-user ML Markus N wrote:
>>> (and it is time to get 6.4.4 out...)
>>
>> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
>>   https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13
> 
> No blocker at time!
> 
>> The other two important tasks for 6.4.4 in my mind are to get python
>> addon
>> scripts working with 6.4's g.extension.py, both for Linux and WinGrass
>> (#1768,
>> just committed an experimental change to 6.5svn a few days ago; e.g. for
>> r.threshold),
> 
> Yes, that's indeed important.
> (reference: https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/58199 )

see http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2138 for the actual state of python
addons in winGRASS6.5.svn/6.4.svn.

we are near to working python addon scripts in winGRASS :-)






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Re: [GRASS-dev] 6.4.4 planning

2013-11-17 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Hamish  wrote:
> on the grass-user ML Markus N wrote:
>> (and it is time to get 6.4.4 out...)
>
>
> fwiw,
>
> I've gone through the two branches with kdiff3 and selectively backported
> many of the differences between the branches. There are a number of
> experiments and minor cosmetic changes which I didn't backport. One big
> remaining hope I had for 6.4.4 was to backport the parallelization work
> in the imagery scripts, e.g. i.landsat.rgb. I think they are pretty good
> but I haven't tried them on WinGrass to learn how well MSys deals with
> backgrounding jobs with "&". I had planned to merge scripts/ first, to
> give them the maximum amount of testing in the stable branch, but it turned
> out to be too big a job for the small windows of time I could give to it.
> But now I am mostly waiting on testing them in 6.5 nightly WinGrass.

I think that this parallelization work should wait for 6.4.5 or
whatever (also given your available time).

Draft release notes:
https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Release/6.4.4RC1-News

--> 14 tickets closed which is already nice.

>
> "Important bugs concerning the next release"
>   https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/report/13

No blocker at time!

> The other two important tasks for 6.4.4 in my mind are to get python addon
> scripts working with 6.4's g.extension.py, both for Linux and WinGrass (#1768,
> just committed an experimental change to 6.5svn a few days ago; e.g. for
> r.threshold),

Yes, that's indeed important.
(reference: https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/58199 )

> and secondly to get the Cairo driver working on WinGrass (#943).
>
> The Cairo driver seems to need some G_spawn() pipe handling/closing in d.mon,
> using SF_BACKGROUND and other popen flags which I just stumble around in the
> dark with & need some assistance.

Maybe Glynn knows?

Markus
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