Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I have been following online trends for years. As for the slow time on email lists web, July/August and November/December are slow months. This is due to holidays/vacations months. The busiest months are Sept., Oct., Jan.-March. Sept-Oct is due to Halloween and schools/colleges going back into session. The dead of winter months are the second busiest time...especially in locations that receive a lot of snow. This trend has occurred every year since the mid-1990s. Current events really do take its toll on how much time we spend online. After 9-11 you could hear a pin drop on email lists for months. All of the costuming email lists were so quiet. Since 2008, when the economy started getting bad, email lists have been receiving less traffic. A lot of people are still out of work. People were sending a lot of posts from work. People may have backed off of doing so, probably scared they might lose their jobs if caught. Many businesses are also monitoring employees emails too. Two of my adult kids do not have internet in their homes and do all internet over their smart phones. Presently, I am on six email lists that are active, USITT costumers, h-costume, 19thCWomen, h-needlework, professional DC webmasters, and a genealogy list. I know that treadle-on is still very active...a little too active for me. Loved it, but there were just too many posts to keep up with. I keep up with Facebook several times a day because it is on my phone and laptop. I don't receive email on my phone because of 300+ spam messages that I receive a day. I have personal and business FB pages. Some of my costuming friends float on both pages. We had a fun fashion/costuming chat back and forth on my personal page Friday night. I don't know why, but a lot of costuming people find me first on my personal page. Then I send them a private message inviting them to like my business page. I can't post on others FB pages as my business which is a pain. My business FB page relates to fashion and any kind of costume. There, I pass along a lot of events, job announcements, and interesting webpages. I don't want business FB page to be just about my business.Once in a while, I have a contest and give away something. As for the FB length problem, I post the limit of words and inform people to look in the comments area for more info. I don't get into blogs. I think they are great for some people, but I just never got into it. BTW, from the DC professional IT email list...blogs have been on their way out for over a year. As for sewing...it is the #1 hobby for women this past year. More women are sewing their own clothes or reconstructing clothes than in the past few decades. Second-hand clothing stores are doing well too. Some of these increases are due to the antique type and fashion designer shows on TV. American Pickers is coming out with a show for interior design that starts this month. Another trend to look at is an increase of stay-at-home parents in the 20-30 y.o. demographic. I can go through my personal FB friends and surprised by this increase...and a good many are sewing! This group are not float overs for costumers...these are friends of my kids and nieces. As for traveling...According to AAA more people are traveling on vacations this year than in the past two years. This was a good indicator of people have adjusted to higher gas prices and such. I do expect after last week's events with the economy that people are leery again. Maybe you can contact the costuming events for some stats. I know Comic-Con was a huge success last month. Dragon*Con is expecting between 35,000 to 50,000 people over Labor Day weekend.If I get to go to Dragon*Con, I will let you know. I didn't notice any change in the amount of people at Costume-Con for the past three years...but the people in the know are on h-costume. Maybe they can chime with their stats. As for those of us who have costuming businesses, especially online, it is always a race to keep up with what is IN OUT. We always have to reinvent the wheel to stay afloat. At this moment, the social media seems to be the way to go. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
When you guys are talking about LiveJournal and Facebook being only replying to something the page owner posted.. you are completely forgetting about the 'community page' option! I know Lj has community pages, I've been moderator on a couple (though pretty inactive). and I'm on a few FB community pages as well. Anyone can post without it having to be a reply - which means that anyone can start a thread that others can reply/comment on. I'm not on LiveJournal (Lj) much these days, it seems to be having a whole lot of problems and may be dying since the Russians bought it, but I do a lot on Facebook. It can be a little awkward trying to carry on multiple threads, but it can be done. For example: suppose there's a group on 18th cent women's clothes on Facebook (FB). A member makes a comment about stays. 18 people make follow-up comments! they are all kept together with the original question as a big block! after a few replies, FB will only show maybe the last 2 or 3 comments and everything in between you have to click to view. But, someone else can make a post about whether to wear your corset in view or not (believe me, I've seen it at public events, and before Steampunk - they thought the shortgown was optional) and people making tons of replies. If you then go to the community page, you will see both original posts and the last comment or two and can choose which thread you want to go in and comment on (or both). So you can still see the discussions, but they are kept contained for easier following. No, there will not be a lot on the page at one time (depending on how busy the posting is), but there is a link at the bottom of the page for 'older posts' and you can click through that. If someone sets the rules for the community page that no OT discussions will be allowed (no talking about your pets, unless you are putting historic clothes on them, or about your plumbing...) then you keep it that way. It's just done all on the web instead of by email. YOu can even make your community page locked down and 'secret' so someone can only join if invited, and it won't show up on a search - some groups like that. -Judy Mitchell ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:37:22 -0700 From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days? Message-ID: 4e3d97f2.6060...@lavoltapress.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed For well over a year, I've been noticing a relative scarcity of posts on pretty much every costume-related mailing list and bulletin board of which I am a member (several dozen). Many of these groups, including h-costume, were formerly very active. The general, noncostume sewing groups are an exception--they seem to be as active as ever. I don't really consider Facebook a substitute because their message limits and format don't cater to either long messages or complicated interchanges. Facebook and the like are other communication tools and I do use them, but they are just that - tools, and no one is a replacement for the others. (Tangential - do feel free to look for me on Facebook and Google+ - as far as I know there are no costume communities on G+ yet but I'd love to be proven wrong!). Is costuming going out of style, as it were? Is reenactment less popular? Are people traveling less to events because of the recession, therefore making fewer outfits for attending events, therefore not discussing those projects? Is everyone hanging out on new lists I've never heard of? Where ARE all the costumers hanging out, if not on h-costume? I don't think costuming is going out of style - far from it. Younger people tend not to do historic costuming, but there does seem to be a huge interest in sci-fi/anime character costuming (cosplay) and events/mailing lists/other internet to match. Could be we're just not seeing them here. For my own self, I still read H-costume regularly but haven't posted lately because I am not costuming as much as I used to. My other hobby is competitive fencing and it eats a lot of my time both for making things and going to events. I AM going to try and make Dress U in Philly next June provided it doesn't conflict with major competitions. There's also the factor that when I do sew I'm usually trying to complete an outfit (several pieces) instead of experimenting, so I suspect that part of the reason I've gone silent is sticking to tried and true = fewer questions (which also means I'm not challenging myself enough, but that's another post :P) Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
There is actually a large and thriving historic costuming community. I just don't think they are represented on this list. With no insult intended for anyone, I think what is dying is this list rather than historic costuming/reenactment community. Of all of the people I know in my own worldwide costuming circle (that sounded rather self-important lol but you know what I meant), I think only 1 is on this list. There are others who I know as friends of friends or by seeing them posting on communities that are on this list (Like Susan Farmer and Kimiko), but for the most part, they are not represented here either. Some were and left for various reasons and now are active on other mediums. Though I have not been vocal for long stretches of time, I have been on this list for about 7 or 8 years. I know many of you have been around for much longer. And I am sure that this was once the best place for everyone to congregate and share and explore the topic together. But as technology has moved forward, email lists are a dying breed. Teena From: A. Thurman athur...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, August 7, 2011 4:23:32 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days? snip I don't think costuming is going out of style - far from it. Younger people tend not to do historic costuming, but there does seem to be a huge interest in sci-fi/anime character costuming (cosplay) and events/mailing lists/other internet to match. Could be we're just not seeing them here. snip Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Attn: Kathy Page re: Met Museum visit
No sooner do I post that I have nothing to say, than I do: I'm conducting some research into the construction of Mariano Fortuny's pleated gowns. The Costume Institute at the Met in NYC has several with sleeves, which could hopefully answer some questions I have that the easier-to-find sleeveless versions can't. However, searching the site I'm pressed to find any way to make appointments to view garments behind the scenes, what credentials/lead time, if any, or contact information for the curators (Harold Koda/Andrew Bolton). If anyone has any information to share about who to contact or what to expect, please let me know. I'm putting a special attention to Kathy Page if she's still reading because I remember she had a successful appointment a few years back. Thanks in advance, Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
On Aug 7, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Beteena Paradise wrote: snip Though I have not been vocal for long stretches of time, I have been on this list for about 7 or 8 years. I know many of you have been around for much longer. And I am sure that this was once the best place for everyone to congregate and share and explore the topic together. But as technology has moved forward, email lists are a dying breed. In my opinion, this is a key factor in what is going on. _All_ internet social/topical-communications contexts are in a constant state of flux. The activity and nature of each context is shaped not only by the structure of the interface (e.g., mailing list vs. usenet vs. blogs vs. organized blog-communities like LJ) and what types of interactions that interface encourages or discourages, enables or makes difficult -- but it's also shaped by the nature and trajectory of the group of people participating in it. Is is growing, static, or shrinking? What is the ratio of old-timers versus newcomers? What is the ratio of substantive posts versus spam and trolling? Is the number of participates large enough to make a critical mass that keeps conversations going? Is it so large that people give up on keeping up with everything and leave or skim? How general versus specialized is it? Does that level of specificity match what people are looking for? How many other contexts are there for the same topic, whether in other types of online structures or duplicated in the same structure? (E.g., Usenet was very strict about preventing duplication of topic or overspecialization, but mailing lists and places like LJ may have dozens of contexts with an identical purpose.) My own personal observation has been that pretty much every type of online discussion context goes through a similar trajectory: 1. The context is brand new and shiny and lots of people flock to it. New people are constantly joining and there is a lot of conversation. 2. The context matures and stabilizes. Units that fail to reach critical mass wither and die, but units that are vibrant and healthy form a sense of social unity and cohesion. This tends to be the point participates enjoy most and it is looked back on later as a Golden Age. 3. The context starts to feel over-large and bloated. Many people -- often those with the most expertise and knowledge -- start to feel it is taking up too much of their time and they begin to withdraw. Hot-button topics begin to recycle regularly. If the security structure of the context allows for it, spam and other annoying commercialisms begin to expand in the proportion of content they take up. 4. The shiny newness has worn off. For a variety of reasons (which would be another entire essay) a much smaller proportion of the content is new and substantive. People participate less (contributing to the previous) and begin looking for a new place to get the same feeling they had in stage 2. 5. The context starts feeling like an abandoned urban center. Depending on the structure, security architecture, and level of moderation, it may simply be full of abandoned buildings or it may be the haunt of metaphoric drug dealers and muggers. A few remnants of the original population hang on, hoping that things will get back to what they were, but they don't have the energy or the critical mass to turn it around. 6. But the inhabitants have gone _somewhere_. They just may be living a very different lifestyle, due to the structural differences in the new context they're inhabiting. I have a much more extended version of this set of observations on my Live Journal here: http://hrj.livejournal.com/82752.html and a follow-up here: http://hrj.livejournal.com/92871.html How's that for self-referentiality? But I guess my overall comment is Nothing is permanent on the internet except change. This cycle of growth and decay has happened to absolutely every type of internet forum and is as natural a consequence of the nature of the medium as the forum's original growth and vibrancy was. Heather ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Though I have not been vocal for long stretches of time, I have been on this list for about 7 or 8 years. I know many of you have been around for much longer. And I am sure that this was once the best place for everyone to congregate and share and explore the topic together. But as technology has moved forward, email lists are a dying breed. Beteena, Yet, some noncostuming email lists I am on are so active, every single day, that there is no way I can follow all the messages. including a couple of majordomo lists. Having worked in high-tech for many years, I also disagree with you that technological innovations are (a) always inherently better than the previous ones and (b) always replace the previous ones. In other words, I don't think change is inherently good. Or bad, but I don't believe we are marching ever forward toward a continuously better world. I agree that fewer people post on h-costume, but let me put forth an idea. It is just harder to find majordomo groups than it is to find groups on a site with a search function. (For example, Yahoo has a search function, Facebook has one, and so on. H-costume is just hanging out there. ) This may well be the reason many of your friends are not on h-costume--they never heard of it. So, one idea is to just get on other groups and tell them about h-costume and how to sign up. That's how I joined h-costume to begin with--the moderator announced it on a vintage clothing email list. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
On 8/7/2011 4:01 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: A lot of people are still out of work. People were sending a lot of posts from work. People may have backed off of doing so, probably scared they might lose their jobs if caught. Many businesses are also monitoring employees emails too. That's an interesting theory. I keep up with Facebook several times a day because it is on my phone and laptop. I don't receive email on my phone because of 300+ spam messages that I receive a day. True, that matters for many people. I don't even have a cell phone. I don't need one. I spend a lot more time on my computer than on the phone. As for the FB length problem, I post the limit of words and inform people to look in the comments area for more info. True, I just find it very annoying to hunt through truncated or concealed posts. I don't get into blogs. I think they are great for some people, but I just never got into it. BTW, from the DC professional IT email list...blogs have been on their way out for over a year. Why? Plenty of people want their own forum where they can just write an essay about whatever they want and post it. Of course, blogs are a lot of trouble to keep up. I think businesses are now using Facebook more, if all they want is to post briefly to keep in touch with customers. Blogs are very time consuming. As for sewing...it is the #1 hobby for women this past year. Where'd you hear that? Maybe you can contact the costuming events for some stats. I know Comic-Con was a huge success last month. Dragon*Con is expecting between 35,000 to 50,000 people over Labor Day weekend. If I get to go to Dragon*Con, I will let you know. I didn't notice any change in the amount of people at Costume-Con for the past three years...but the people in the know are on h-costume. It's not just the cons, it's the battles and other big reenactment events. I hear people saying they are not going to as many as before. As for those of us who have costuming businesses, especially online, it is always a race to keep up with what is IN OUT. We always have to reinvent the wheel to stay afloat. At this moment, the social media seems to be the way to g To be honest, Penny, I think you are applying attitudes about modern clothing fashions to technology. Also, email lists, blogs, and website b-boards ARE social media. They may be a different format than Facebook, but they are social media. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] A proposal
Actually, I wasn't trying to start a discussion about whether h-costume is dying, but asking whether there are any interesting costuming groups I don't know about. But, there is less traffic here than formerly. As I've said, I think there is a lot of benefit to a multiera list, and one whose format allows long, substantive posts and interchanges. I'd like to suggest something. It's very difficult to find h-costume unless someone tells you about it. H-costume doesn't pop up in searches in Yahoo, Facebook, or in short, the well-defined sites where people are searching now instead of the net in general. So, if anyone wants to see more members and therefore presumably more traffic, it might be a good idea to post a quick announcement, with sign-on information, on Facebook or Livejournal or your blog, wherever else you are hanging out. Why not? Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
On Aug 7, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: Yet, some noncostuming email lists I am on are so active, every single day, that there is no way I can follow all the messages. including a couple of majordomo lists. Is it because costume is visual? For your other e-mail lists, are they about visual arts, or can everything be expressed with writing? On H-costume, if someone wants to show a finished costume or a project in progress, they need to direct us to a website. At first it was something like Flickr or their own web page, and later a blog. Blogs and facebook, on the other hand, have the capability built into the system to share images. With a picture being worth 1000 words, it's faster to post images with captions than it is to type out the description. So, rather than write a post to H-costume and set up a link for the photos, people can share in just the one place and be done with it. In the case of one Yahoogroup, there is a member who posts several times a week — the link for her blog. She doesn't share significant info on the Yahoogroup. I enjoy H-costume as a view into what people are doing in other areas and eras of costume. I like that it comes into my in-box rather than having to go to various blogs or web forums. Even on facebook, I often miss things. I thought I had liked Penny's facebook but did not remember seeing any posts from it. I double checked and it is there, unfortunately not close to times that I would look at facebook so I would miss the posts that way. I see more about The Costume Gallery on H-costume than I do on facebook. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Is it because costume is visual? For your other e-mail lists, are they about visual arts, or can everything be expressed with writing? When pictures are necessary people post links to them. But I don't think a picture is worth 1,000 words in costume. Usually accompanying words are necessary even for construction information. And, pictures can be not very useful for discussing social-history aspects of costume. On H-costume, if someone wants to show a finished costume or a project in progress, they need to direct us to a website. But, there are many things to say about costume other than, Here's what I am making, do you like it? That's one reason I like h-costume more than many other groups, it is less focused on personal projects. I enjoy H-costume as a view into what people are doing in other areas and eras of costume. I like that it comes into my in-box rather than having to go to various blogs or web forums. I like all that too. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I don't post very often but I read h-costume daily. I also like the fact that it comes to my in box and I dont' have to search for it. I'm not on facebook or twitter or anything but email. I have only so much time to play on the computer and I find that the few email lists I'm on are sufficient to fill that time. I read only one blog, written by a friend with whom I share a large community and a history; her version of the history is from a different slant and I read her religiously almost daily. I agre with Fran in that there are a lot of historic costumers out there who don't know about h-costume. I've mentioned it several times in covnersation recently and many people have asked about it; they didn't know that it's out there. I also believe that, since the inception of h-costume, more and more period-specific lists are out there and they have probably siphoned off many of the h-costume people. Kimiko's comments are a good example of that. Since she (Kimiko, sorry about using you as an example) has previously only been interested in the Tudor-Elizabethan periods, the conversations about 17-20C periods are useless to her. I'm pleased she has maintained her status on h-costume because she often has added very interesting comments and information to our conversations. There are many other lists appropriate to English 15-16C costuming, some that Kimiko started herself; these lists weren't there when h-costume started up. When you add up those people who left for more what we loosely call Ren lists those people only interested in 18C or 19C, you get fewer of us interested in several periods. I'm interested in most periods between 1550 - 1950. Where else am I going to get the information and conversations I want without going to 20 different lists? I don't have the time to go there. H-costume covers all of them, granted in a more-overviewed way, but there are enough of us we can still ask a question about an Elizabethan shift and maybe Kate Bunting or someone else very knowledgable will answer. The next day I can ask something about a Victorian accessory and be pretty sure that someone else will have an answer or a picture link. LynnD On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: Is it because costume is visual? For your other e-mail lists, are they about visual arts, or can everything be expressed with writing? When pictures are necessary people post links to them. But I don't think a picture is worth 1,000 words in costume. Usually accompanying words are necessary even for construction information. And, pictures can be not very useful for discussing social-history aspects of costume. On H-costume, if someone wants to show a finished costume or a project in progress, they need to direct us to a website. But, there are many things to say about costume other than, Here's what I am making, do you like it? That's one reason I like h-costume more than many other groups, it is less focused on personal projects. I enjoy H-costume as a view into what people are doing in other areas and eras of costume. I like that it comes into my in-box rather than having to go to various blogs or web forums. I like all that too. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I started my own costume blog and mostly blog there, or on the costume blogs of other interested friends. It can be found at: http://cathyscostumeblog.blogspot.com/ On 08/06/2011 05:42 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: I don't do Twitter, but on Facebook, there has been a lot of in depth research type discussions going on in the two Groups I'm a part of. Elizabethan Costume http://www.facebook.com/groups/29374273995/ (being able to discuss with Ninya, Jane, and Melanie among many others about different aspects of whatever photo we are discussing about has been very enlightening. I don't do Facebook. I recently started an account on Google Plus, but I doubt I'll do serious costume discussions there. But still, you can't post anything very long in any discussion. I'm a member of a number of Facebook groups, and I ran into their posting length limit immediately. However, I also know that in order for me to actually Create the ideas floating in my head, I will need to spend less time on this computer, or those ideas won't get created. Maybe folks are spending less time online in order to Create? I wouldn't be surprised. It's amazing how much time the net can take up. Amen to that. -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Beware how you take away hope from another human being. --Oliver Wendell Holmes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Heather, Numbers 1-6 sound like the Fashion Life Cycle! Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have found it. I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And what year did you join? Word of mouth from friends in the local chapter of the costumer's guild. I dont think the list was much more than a few weeks old at the time. 1994? Obligatory costume content: not working on anything costume-y at the moment. Just got back from Costume College have barely got it all laundered put away. The local chapter's Salon (tea party) was at my house today. We had all the 1910s books out so we could inspire the next round of fashions. In Calif, we're coming up on 100 years of Women's Sufferage (women here got the vote rather late, in 1911). Next year is the centenial of the sinking of the Titanic, so there's another good reason to think ragtime thoughts. The Art Deco festival on the Queen Mary is quite soon and so is the Sacramento Ragtime Festival. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:08 PM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have found it. I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Same here, this one in its first incarnation back in 93 or 94, then a couple on Aol and a bbs. :) Franchesca : -Original Message- : From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- : boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com : Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:08 PM : To: 'Historical Costume' : Subject: Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days? : : So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And : what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have : found it. : : I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. : : Penny Ladnier, owner : The Costume Gallery Websites : www.costumegallery.com : 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history : FaceBook: : http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery- : Websites/107498415961579 : : ___ : h-costume mailing list : h-costume@mail.indra.com : http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Yeah, h-costume an dh-needlework at about the same time, I think. LynnD On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Franchesca franchesca.ha...@gmail.comwrote: Same here, this one in its first incarnation back in 93 or 94, then a couple on Aol and a bbs. :) Franchesca : -Original Message- : From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- : boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com : Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:08 PM : To: 'Historical Costume' : Subject: Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days? : : So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And : what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have : found it. : : I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. : : Penny Ladnier, owner : The Costume Gallery Websites : www.costumegallery.com : 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history : FaceBook: : http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery- : Websites/107498415961579 : : ___ : h-costume mailing list : h-costume@mail.indra.com : http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
