Re: [h-cost] dating vintage patterns by number and year
I can't help you with the book but it would be very cool to have something like that. However, having said that, I know that I have a couple of patterns, let's say Butterick 1234, dating in two separate decades. There's only so many 4-digit numbers available and they are recycled constantly. I searched through my vintage pattern collection and looked on the envelopes in the small print and on the instruction sheets and was able to find most of the copyright dates for my patterns from the 30s on. It took a couple of days, so now I search for it once I get a new pattern and put a piece of archival paper with notes (copyright 1942, missing sleeve cuff piece #7, manufacturing folds, unused, etc.) into a clear, archival comic book envelope with the pattern. I've got mine filed by decade and by year if possible. (I know, fussy.) LynnD On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Cascio Michaelwrote: > Hello the list, > Many years ago someone published a book, I think, that listed ranges > of pattern numbers for the Big 3 by year they were issued. I don't recall > the name of the book since I wasn't doing vintage patterns then. I can > figure out decade from the covers of the pattern but would like to be more > accurate than general decade. Something to the effect of Simplicity 1001 > to 1075 was published in 1937 or something similar. Any help with the book > title much appreciated. > > > Cassandra > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian button boots
Have you checked with Old Sacramento Goods? Can't remember the proper name and don't have time to look it up, but it's the store from JoAnn Peterson, owner of Laughing Moon Mercantile patterns. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Lavolta Presswrote: > I have already asked, she says sizes under 6 just don't sell well enough. > > Fran > > > > On 8/30/2016 3:30 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: > >> Try asking Lauren (owner American Duchess) if she can make you a smaller >> pair. There might be others who'd like smaller sizes. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On >> Behalf Of Lavolta Press >> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 3:21 PM >> To: Historical Costume >> Subject: [h-cost] Victorian button boots >> >> I had a nice pair of Victorian repro button boots with scallops. They >> looked >> very authentic. I need to replace them. Does anyone know where I can get a >> replacement? American Duchess won't work for me. There are a number of >> their shoes I would buy if they made smaller than a size 6, but I wear 5 >> or >> 5 1/2. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Fran >> >> Lavolta Press >> >> Books on historic clothing >> >> www.lavoltapress.com >> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume >> >> >> > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1930s Joan of Arc reenactment (color photos)
Very cool, thanks for sharing. I'm going with awesome and not nitpick. LynnD On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:20 AM, Elena Housewrote: > http://mashable.com/2016/04/18/joan-of-arc-festival/ > This is a collection of photos from the 1932 Joan of Arc festival > in Compiégne. The garb is both very nitpickable, and very awesome. > > -E House > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] History of Linen
Many of you probably receive messages from fabrics-store.com, where many of us purchase linen for costuming. Today they sent out a link to a well-illustrated article about the history of linen. It's quite interesting to know how what we use so often in costuming - and real life - was made through history. They say this is the first in a series of articles where they will examine natural fabrics through the ages. Required Disclaimer: I'm not connected to fabrics-store.com except as a customer. http://www.fabrics-store.com/blog/2015/04/02/a-brief-history-of-linen/?utm_source=newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_term=Patronsutm_content=Debutm_campaign=Thread Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] spam (was need help with Butterick B6074)
And I thought it was just my spam in gmail... I check every other day or so, or whenever I feel I'm missing part of the conversation. Emily, I love your little mouse picture! Is it something you made? LynnD On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/27/2015 2:12 PM, Sybella wrote: Hm. It looks like the list is only sending me some of the messages in this conversation. Charlene took a quote from Ann's but I never received Ann's message at all! I wonder what else I'm missing. :( Ann's messages tend to go into my spam folder for some reason - Gmail's security settings don't seem to like them. I've taken to checking my spam every day so I can rescue anything that's not supposed to be in there. Emily ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo
It's a lovely photo. The children are really cute and I love the clothing. I think I agree with Teena and it's not a post-mortem photo. I think your aunt is leaning in because the photographer told her to lean closer to get that lovely head grouping but her body didn't follow her head before the photographer shot the picture. Most post-mortem photos I've seen (and I'm sure you've seen more than me) show the child lying down or sitting. The children's eyes are quite blue, and blue eyes can wash out in photos. Any photo of my very blue-eyed uncle-in-law from childhood through his adult years made him look drunk or dead because of the how the light showed his eyes. Only until the family started using color film did he look sober and alive. Herbert seems much fairer than the others, both in hair and eyes and I think that might be what's going on with his eyes. Do you think that the belt might be just a very wide, dark sash for his outfit? Just my two cents. LynnD On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote: I disagree. I don't think it is post-mortem. First of all, why would they do it with him standing when the grouping would have been just as pleasant with him sitting. That would be much more likely if he was post mortem. There is no indication that he is not holding his own weight on his legs. They are clearly solid beneath him and not shifted to the side as if something else is holding him up. I do, however, think that he has some disability and the belt is keeping him steady. There is also drooping on one side of his face which may indicate stroke or other brain abnormality/injury. And his eyes look blind to me not dead. There is a certain look to a dead body and he doesn't have it. Particularly focus on his lips. They are not the lips of a dead body at all. Just my 2 cents. Teena From: Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:07 AM Subject: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo I'll open a can of worms. I have a photo of my Dad and his siblings from 1912 http://www.costumegallery.com/kids2.jpg . The little boy in this front is he postmortem or handicapped. He passed away in 1912. I have always thought the belt around him was odd and being shoeless. My Dad told me once that his mother was very strict and would not allow them to go around barefooted. Last week I was dusting the photo's frame and gave it a hard look and thought it might be postmortem. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?
I'm here. I have time for h-costume but not enough for Facebook. LynnD On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.gov wrote: Drat! I'm not able to do Facebook. Ginni Morgan -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:35 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Anyone here? I think so. I believe many who used to come here regularly may have shifted to various Facebook groups--I know I have. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Tue, Jan 13, 2015 6:40 pm Subject: [h-cost] Anyone here? Hi, I haven't been getting any messages lately, until today-I got only one. Is the list especially quiet? Sharon Collier ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] slashing fabric
I agree with Kate - it never really made a lot of sense to me too. It was already mentioned that the slashes on the bias wouldn't ravel as badly. The fabrics were also woven more tightly when woven by hand than now by machine, so they were even less inclined to fray. When you use one of the chisels to slash you get a more even size slash and a sharper edge to the cuts than by scissors, which also lessens the fraying. LynnD On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:23 AM, RC Sharp r.c.sh...@comcast.net wrote: The thing that always got me about the 'slash it to make it larger' story was it implied the Landsknechts were either 1 - too dumb to trade with someone else for a better fitting garment or 2 - too lazy to wash it, patch it, sell it in the next town or 3 - that they were larger than everyone they vanquished which isn't likely because, as with any martial art, it's a random combination of skill, luck, and maybe some god looking or not. (You - you're dead! What? oh ...) The story just never made sense -Kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question
Liz, The ones I've seen photos of had very small seams turned (and maybe turned again - I can't remember) on each separate piece and stitched with a blanket stitch. Then the two pieces were joined by something that looks like a ladder stitch. I don't know if my stitches would stand up to the stress of the washing... LynnD On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Liz H. imco...@verizon.net wrote: I'm sure sometime has answered this sometime over the years, but I can't seen to find it... In the 1480-1600 period of time, does anyone know how the edges of the cloth, or seams of under-tunics/shifts/shirts/chemises would have been finished? I figure that as they would have been the most often washed garment, something would have been done to help prevent the edges of the cloth from unraveling...but I haven't been able to figure out what, during that period of time. (Me, I either zigzag or whip-stitch the edges usually...but I'm wondering what would have been done *then*) Thanks! -Elisabeth/Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Italian men's cioppa pattern
Alwyn, Check out the two reviews at Greater Bay Area Costumers' Guild Great Pattern Review: http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/index.php One person recommended it and one did not. This is a really great tool for everyone. Lynn On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All Has anyone here used Period Patterns 43 to make a cioppa? I need to make one in the next two weeks and after finding instructions for this pattern realised they just don't make any sense. Has anyone had any luck with this pattern or know another one I can use? Many thanks, Aylwen *Aylwen Gardiner-Garden* *Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au * *Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/* ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] mailing costume to austria
The company I work for sends at least 8 packages to Europe and Japan via FedEx daily and have for years and years. We seldom have anything delivered late. There are a few places they cannot send but they are listed on their website. LynnD On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I need to mail a costume to Austria and I am wary of the USPS getting it there in time, does anyone have recommendations of shipping companies, DHL, UPS, and FEDEX are the three that come to mind. Thanks. Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1933 hat help - French magazine pattern
I've made patterns out of paper towels (don't enlarge the patterns, just use them the size they are) and make a few of each piece. Then try to put the hat together to look the way the picture does. Paper towels are softer and more malable than regular paper and will move more like fabric than copy paper. Just play with it until it works. LynnD On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote: Ahahaahaa...yes, translation is everything, isn't it?! Come to think of it, decorative doo-dads that are parsley shaped may look rather smashing! ;) I'm still confused on where to start though. How many of each to cut, what's on the fold, etc. I'm assuming the solid lines are cutting lines and the dotted are ribbon guide lines but if I don't have the pieces in the right shape to start, no amount of A to A and B to B will result in anything resembling a hat. On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, think of translating it to 'garnish'. It's the parsley on the hat?? LynnD On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote: Wonderful!! I had a feeling gasket was wrong...LOL! Thank you sooo much! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote: Sybella, A few corrections to the translation: It definitely calls for grosgrain ribbon as the alternative to velvet. Garniture here means the trimming on the hat. (It may mean a gasket in another context!) Pan may refer to the two hanging ends of ribbon. Pince seems to mean a dart, if I interpret my dictionary correctly. Batissez-la - literally build it - i.e. stitch it? Du sens oppose a la premiere = in the opposite direction to the first. Surely you are meant to bring points E and E' together? Hope this helps, Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Police Bonnet It's a very wanted model now. The one we are proposing you, is particularly successful. Take 1m60 of velvet ribbon summer n?22, or if you don't have that, a large grain (grosgrain?) ribbon. Take 0m80 ribbon for the gasket plus 0m20 for the pan (?): 0m60 remains for the cap. The pattern is drawn up for a 0m55 head entry: I. The Headband cap. II. The gasket. Place the pattern over the ribbon, pass threads over as indicated in the shematic with the dotted line: mark the reference points. The cap: Shape the clip (the pliers? the clamp?)by bringing together D to D', b?tissez-l?. Close the headband to your head entry. Gasket: From F, form a point (tip) by bringing the reference points A A' together. Pin it. Form a shell (case? hull? body?, cover?) by bringing the 2 B and B'from the end of the ribbon to the 2 B and B'on the edge of the ribbon. Shape and pin a second shell (...?) opposite to the first direction by bringing C together witk C' and C' to E'. Place the gasket on to the headband cap. Secure point E'(en regard de E du bandeau de calotte-- this can mean opposite E on the headband cap or facing E on the headband cap. I have no idea which one is meant here..) Align the meeting points and get the back cover to point F, F'. Put G and G' together, after which you do te same with I and I', and then H and H'. The seam of the headband cap stops under the front (cover, hull? shell?) Under point F', slide a piece of ribbon of 0m20, diagonally cut on each side Sew the cap by a few points hidden in the folds. (a cap with three ribs, in taffetas, serves as headdress) Lysiane ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] grid board tutorial
Hi Natalie, If I understand what you're asking, I have expanded the pattern to full size per the book - that makes it into the size 9 or the size of the original garment in the case of a Janet Arnold book. Form there I graded it to my size and made several muslins until it fit correctly. I don't know that my math skills would be able to change it all at once, from a drawing on a graph to my size in one step. If you think you're experienced enough to skip that first step, I'd say go for it and save yourself a couple of hours. I know I can't - just not enough experience and not a proportioned body enough to do it. Good luck and let us know how it goes, LynnD On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Natalie natali...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure I'm conveying my question clearly, so let me try again. I'm using The Tudor Tailor to design the next round of costuming for my husband. All of my previous experience is with modifying/altering commercial paper patterns, and I can do this fairly easily, including resizing. The Tudor Tailor patterns are printed on a grid within the book. It is my understanding that I need to hand-draw the pattern, life size, using a gridded mat. If I need to enlarge or shrink the pattern, may I do so by using the grid directly (increase all lines by 1/2 square, for example) and save myself having to draw out the original size first, or do I first have to follow the grid exactly and then increase/decrease using the regular rules for pattern grading? A tutorial on using the gridded mat to transfer the pattern from book to life-size would be appreciated. Natalie On 11/18/2013 5:03 PM, claudine wrote: I googled enlarging with a grid and came up with a number of sites and YouTube vids, aimed at taking a small image (works the same for a photograph or cartoon as it does for a pattern) and enlarging it like you would with a copy machine. Is that what you're looking for? If you mean to change dress size (like, from size 10 to size 12 or vice versa) then you need to look up pattern grading or grading patterns but that doesn't necessarily require a grid. Claudine From: Natalie natali...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:47 PM Subject: [h-cost] grid board tutorial Could someone point me to an online tutorial on how to use a pattern grid board to: 1. Copy a pattern from a book that is on a grid (like in The Tudor Tailor) 2. Use that grid to make the pattern a larger/smaller size. I'm used to working with tissue patterns, so this is new territory for me. Thanks in advance! Natalie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] tv fashions
Isn't that annoying! SHE's the star but his wardrobe gets the credit. I remember thinking how well she dressed at the time too, but she should; as the wife of an ad man they would be pretty comfortably well off. Is is historically connected in that those 1960s dresses are 'historic' now, at the very least vintage -- even though I remember those dresses being on the high end of middle class regular wear. I wish I could do more than just agree with you. If you find out anything, please share if you can. Thanks, Lynn On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I know it's not historical in the long view, but I wondered if anyone knows if there are any photo collections of fashions from tv shows. I've been watching Bewitched and the star, Elizabeth Montgomery wears some really stunning classics that would be lovely to recreate - or even see who gets credit for dressing her on set. The credits for the show identify the wardrobe supplier of the male star, but not her. There are other shows from every decade that showed current fashion at the time and influenced fashion among viewers. Is there any author or publisher that has gone down this road? Denise Iowa __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian flat leghorn hat
As I recall, leghorn describes the type of straw the hat is made of. Also, that brim is wavy, not flat at all. It's a gorgeous hat! On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Lauren Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.netwrote: Hi, Working on the last of the four 19th-century fashion plates I'm recreating as doll outfits! I would like to check in with those more familiar with 19th-century millinery about the hat. It's an 1889 flat leghorn, according to Godey's text; I'm trying to confirm that it has a low flat crown rather than an open one or a completely flat one. (figure on the right): http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;view=1up;seq=109 Any thoughts? Thank you! (The third outfit was a nightmare; I remade it four times. Eventually I got the chiffon pleated in a satisfactory manner using a pleating board and plenty of starch, but no heat. There will be photos of all once the full project is done and the gift given to its intended recipient.) Thanks again for all your aid. This has been so much fun! Even the pleat nightmare. Lauren Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nazi propaganda photos of occupied Paris in World War 2
The photographs are really wonderfully done. It's hard to say that he should be punished for putting the best face on France during the German occupation. He seems to have shown both sides of the coin in his photography, although the German side paid better. And the Germans are the ones who gave him the rare color film, making these photos so important historically. I started to notice how even the women called well-dressed in the captions didn't have nylons on. Only one woman other than those in uniform seemed to be wearing stockings. You'd think the Germans would have given them stockings to wear in at least some of the more posed photographs. And the shoes!!! I wish I could find shoes that interesting now. Lovely wedges, wedges with cut-outs, elegant heels and strappy shoes. Oh, my! Fran, thanks for the link; it was really interesting. I'd never seen any photographs of Paris during this time and it added to my knowledge. LynnD On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/**news/article-2417335/Paris-** Nazi-lens-Propaganda-images-**occupied-French-capital-** citizens-thriving-German-rule.**htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2417335/Paris-Nazi-lens-Propaganda-images-occupied-French-capital-citizens-thriving-German-rule.html __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] CANCELLED - Costumers'/Seamstresses' STASH BUSTING Rummage Sale, Concord, Northern California, June 2
Hi everyone, I'm sorry to send out another mail to everyone but I have to let you all know that the rummage sale I notified you all about has had to be postponed. We hope to reschedule it for late summer. Again, my apologies for this second mail and to you if you were interested in attending. Please watch this space for updated news. Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Costumers'/Seamstresses' STASH BUSTING Rummage Sale, Concord, Northern California, June 2
Have you been looking for that perfect trim to go on your latest Gatsby dress? Or a length of fabric to make that dress? How about a purse, parasol or pair of trousers for Dickens Fair? Maybe something you've been wishing for but couldn't find the perfect color/design/fit? Come shop at the semi-occasional Costumers' stash-busting sale on Sunday, June 2nd. Over a dozen vendors are clearing out their closets and YOU could be the lucky recipient of some pretty nice stuff for bargain prices. Particulars are: When: Sunday, June 2nd, 11 - 4 Where: Cue Live Productions Theatre in old downtown Concord, 1835 Colfax Street between Willow Pass Road and Concord Blvd. Lots of street parking available. Mass transit: A couple of blocks from the Concord BART station Admission: $5.00 Proceeds benefit the Butterfield 8 Theatre, our lovely hosts at Cue Live. There is no ATM nearby. Please bring cash. Can't attend because you will be at Valhalla Renaissance Faire? Heck, send your friends. They know y pretty darn well and can spot a bargain that you'll love. A concession stand will be on site for snacks and drinks, all proceeds go to Butterfield 8. Please don't bring outside food into the building. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS MESSAGE EVERYWHERE! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for men's pants
Knickers are short for knickerbockers, from some deep recess of my memory. I know they weren't called knee-breeches during Victorian times (except maybe by old ladies) but I can't verify they were called knickers. My theory is that the ladies' underwear term, knickers, came from the name of the short trousers worn by men. Supposition on my part; my library is miles away and I can't remember anything solid to back up my comments. LynnD On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Julie jtknit...@gmail.com wrote: I thought knickers referred to underwear. Julie Last Sunday, a friend came to a Steampunk St. Patty's Day party sporting knickers. I am in the habit of calling them knee-breeches from my Rev War days. Is knickers the correct term for men's knee breeches in Victorian times? Henry Osier ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
I don't know... When i was five and six I had peddle pushers and felt pretty cute in the - in the late 1950s. Alas, no bike with which to push peddles. I love words and this has been a really interesting topic! LynnD On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Sybella mae...@gmail.com wrote: LOL! I'm laughing my butt off over here. Hope, thanks for trying but you can't pull the embarrassment card unless you wore them! You have spared yourself a lifetime of shame by not using that pattern! :) Clam diggers Great one!!! I'm surprised I forgot that one. It and peddle pushers are my favorite names for this horrid, fashion blight! 'Bella On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote: Another name, at least in southeast Virginia, was 'clam diggers'. Kate Pinner Costume Scenic Design Tech. Coord., Kelsey Theatre, MCCC 609-570-3584 pinn...@mccc.edu Subject: Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants Bella - I won't tell if you won't tell that I actually had a pattern very similar to this one. Like so many other fashionable items that I thought would put me in the cool kid category, I didn't actually ever make them... http://momspatterns.com/inc/sdetail/95681 - Hope On 3/20/13 5:11 PM, Sybella wrote: Honestly, it's something I'd rather not admit to so I'll trust you all to keep it a secret! ;) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Terms for pants
Tongue stuck firmly in cheek: It never changes. Some guy (Charles Worth, for example) decides we all need to wear hoop skirts (for example) and we all follow along. I bet it's been going on since Mankind first started wearing clothes. And I don't mean only women who follow fashion slavishly; men are right in there too. We finally figure it out, Terry figured it out once she got out of high school. It takes other people decades to realize that the most up to date fashion isn't always the one for them. I love people! And what would we costumers do if no one followed fashion? How could we tell an 1875 bonnet from an 1885 one? Lynn On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Terry twal...@us.net wrote: Hey, be loud and proud about your sartorial choices. I had two pairs of knickers I got in my last year or two of high school--'81 or '82--the kind with the band just below the knee. One pair was a tasteful tweed. The other was lilac corduroy that I wore with cream colored socks and lavender shoes. I actually had two pairs of lavender shoes, but only one pair was deemed dressy enough for the knickers. After that, I stopped following fads... Terry -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sybella Yes, I did mean the 1980s and capri is another one, Cynthia! And Carol may be right, where my memories blended '70s with the '80s...but I do distinctly remember asking Mom to take me shopping for a pair of knickers, pants that came to a gather just below the knee, during my childhood. Honestly, it's something I'd rather not admit to so I'll trust you all to keep it a secret! ;) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] art costume
The doily represents a Dutch/Netherlandish lace cap, not ears. The original would have covered the back of her head and only the front bits would show from that angle. I was VERY impressed how many of those photos are so reminiscent of the original paintings! Thanks very much for posting. LynnD On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. He's definitely good. There was only ONE that bothered me a little- that's the one where the daughter has ears of lace, and it's only too obvious that he cut up a paper doily, not even sticking to the pattern lines embossed in the paper. But the photography creativity itself is amazing. Glad you posted it, Melissa. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Mar 15, 2013, at 2:11 PM, mhprobe...@gmail.com wrote: This made me smile! http://www.visualnews.com/**2013/03/09/father-takes-** photos-of-daughter-posed-as-**classic-art/http://www.visualnews.com/2013/03/09/father-takes-photos-of-daughter-posed-as-classic-art/ *http://tinyurl.com/b5marvt __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] University of NH exhibit
I had trouble too but realized that the period at the end of the sentence carried forward when I clicked on the link. Try again and delete the '.' LynnD On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.comwrote: Astrida, The link didn't work for me, and I'm sure it should have. Odd. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Astrida Schaeffer wrote: Hi everyone-- The Victorian embellishments book is finally well on its way through the design process, and I have a date (end of April) for it to get to the printer. I'm expecting copies in hand by mid-June. Pre-orders (and many more images of the exhibition) are now at www.schaeffferarts.com/**embellishmentshttp://www.schaeffferarts.com/embellishments. All pre-orders go toward printing costs! I'll also be posting a Kickstarter, hopefully tomorrow, with the same goal: raising printing money. If you pre-order from my site, it will be $30 plus shipping until mid-May; if you go through Kickstarter there will be many options with pledges of $50 or more including a book as well as other goodies. Thanks for all the interest! Astrida Schaeffer __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fwd: [siliconweb] article
This article is really interesting. Forwarded with permission. Lynn -- Forwarded message -- From: dblackthistle diana.thompso...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:11 AM Subject: [siliconweb] article To: silicon...@yahoogroups.com ** this may be of interest. http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/costume-design-symposium-from-oscar-winner-anna-karenina-to-les-miserables?utm_source=iContactutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Thompson%20on%20Hollywoodutm_content= diana thompson Blackthistle Designs www.Blackthistledesigns.com __._,_.___ Reply via web posthttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/siliconweb/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwZjlwNjB2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk0ODEwNDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BG1zZ0lkAzkyMjkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzYyMzk1NTA4?act=replymessageNum=9229 Reply to sender diana.thompso...@gmail.com?subject=Re%3A%20article Reply to group silicon...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20article Start a New Topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/siliconweb/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlOWx0bDZsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk0ODEwNDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM2MjM5NTUwOA-- Messages in this topichttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/siliconweb/message/9229;_ylc=X3oDMTM0MTFkZTloBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk0ODEwNDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BG1zZ0lkAzkyMjkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzYyMzk1NTA4BHRwY0lkAzkyMjk-(1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Grouphttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/siliconweb;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbWE1aDhmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk0ODEwNDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM2MjM5NTUwOA-- [image: Yahoo! Groups]http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkcW1rbDlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzk0ODEwNDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MzAwMzM3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzYyMzk1NTA4 Switch to: Text-Onlysiliconweb-traditio...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change+Delivery+Format:+Traditional, Daily Digestsiliconweb-dig...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email+Delivery:+Digest• Unsubscribe siliconweb-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe • Terms of Use http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ • Send us Feedback ygroupsnotificati...@yahoogroups.com?subject=Feedback+on+the+redesigned+individual+mail+v1 . __,_._,___ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Embellishments exhibit
Me too please! Or will you just send a blanket email to hcostume? Lynn On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.comwrote: Count me in! Emily On 1/29/2013 11:50 AM, Astrida Schaeffer wrote: All who have expressed interest here so far are on the list ;) and I promise to keep h-cost updated as well. Astrida __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Modern sewing challenge - suggestions?
Like so many other things, flannel comes in several weights. I noticed that the stuff I bought at JoAnn's labeled Quilters' Flannel was a heavier weight than the stuff that was the Snuggle Flannel (or something like that). The really expensive Spiderman flannel i bought (due I thought to it being a licensed character) was really thick and sturdy. You might try looking at different types of flannels. LynnD Hoping that the eight pairs of flannel jammie pants I just finished don't fall apart. On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg gilshal...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Carol, Interesting to know that set you made of flannel fell apart due to strain fairly quickly. I'm planning to make mine double layer to hopefully avoid that and make them warmer. I'm also contemplating trying a pair where the outer layer is polar fleece and the in layer is flannel - that way I get the best of both worlds, the warmth of the fleece but without the irritation of a man-made fabric next to my skin. So thanks for the warning and the suggestion! Cheers, Danielle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US, August 2013
Hi Alwen, The US is even bigger than Australia. Where will you be? I think your question is so huge that no one is able to answer it. Of course August is near the end of our summer, so there's things going on all over the country, coast to coast. You might also want to let us know what era of event you're most interested in. LynnD On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Historical Costume Friends I am organising a historical dance teaching trip to the US in August 2013, following by a three-week historical costume and dance tour of the UK. Are there any good historical costume events on in August in the US that I should consider attending? Many thanks, Aylwen *Aylwen Gardiner-Garden* * * * * * * *Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au * *Jane Austen Festival Australia* http://www.janeaustenfestival.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Liquid soap for hand washing
I understand that Woolite changed their formula many years ago and it was hard to rinse out after that. Clothes could become sticky with the residue. I stopped using it when I noticed that and use gentle shampoos with no oils in them. Baby shampoo is rather harsh, surprisingly, because it's developed to work against cradle cap. Not really an answer, Lynn On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: What's everyone using for hand washing clothes? I hand wash my modern lingerie, some delicate modern clothes, and vintage clothes. I am not looking for an archival product. I am wondering if I should switch from Woolite, although for no special reason, really. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] sewing machines
Probably won't ever NEED one, unless you house goes under water and the thing rusts. My 1971 Kenmore still works wonders. I bought a cheap machine a couple of years ago because it had a built-in, one-step buttonholer. And it's so much lighter than my 'real' machine that I take it to Costume College and classes throughout the year. It's paid for itself in convenience already. Dragging the other one around, even with some plastic parts, is a pain. LynnD On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.govwrote: I'm still using my Singer Golden Touch n Sew from 1962. Just had it serviced. It has sewn everything from Vogue wedding dresses to historical to my heavy canvas SCA pavilion. Haven't got a clue where to start looking for a new machine and probably won't ever get one. Ginni ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Neat link to sunburst pleats in striped fabric
That's really impressive. thanks, Fran. On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: http://www.**internationalpleating.com/**what-happens-when-you-** sunburst-pleat-striped-fabric/http://www.internationalpleating.com/what-happens-when-you-sunburst-pleat-striped-fabric/ Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1849 millinery questions
Hi Lauren, Welcome to millinary, a wonderful, terrible art. I can answer two of your questions. however, the question of symmetry (#2 and #4) depended on the year and the desire of the wearer. Sometimes symmetry was all, sometimes asymmetry was the way to go. Perhaps someone with more experience in 1849 fashion can help you there. However, yes, a straw bonnet would have that curtain in the back to cover your (naked!) neck. It could be made of the lining fabric or part of the trimming ribbon or even some of the fabric to match your dress. There's a French term that means 'curtain', can't remember it right now and that ruffle at the back is usually called by that name. The lining could have been shirred and look poofy or smooth against inside of the bonnet and/or (are you getting the terrible part yet?) she is wearing a cap. As soon as I wrote 'women always covered their hair' I remembered dozens of photographs of women whose hair showed. Best wishes on your project. I hope you'll take pictures and send us a link to admire. LynnD On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I'm working on a 1/12 scale (dollhouse miniature) of the outfit in an 1849 fashion plate. (If you've subscribed to the Costume Gallery, it's part of the Year in Fashion: 1949 collection, http://www.costumegallery.com/1849/ . It's the March 1849 Fashion Plate : Lady with Children .) I'm almost done with the gown and moving on to the bonne t. I am not very knowledgeable about 19th-century headwear, and am hoping someone with expertise can give me a clue or two or three . The bonnet appears to be straw, and I think it is more or less the typical shape of that decade, which I've seen variously described as cottage/spoon/scuttle . I've read that by 1849 the brim, while still large in circumference, no longer extended very far out beyond the face, which seems consistent with the image . Other examples from the same year that I've seen had a straight top line rather than a break between the caul and brim. A ribbon trims the hat, more or less where the caul would turn into the brim if they were not continuous. So far so good. The plate doesn't show the back of the bonnet. Other examples from around the same time have some kind of fabric ruffle on the back at the bottom of the caul, coming forward as far as the ribbon trim. Here are my questions: 1) None of the real-life bonnets I've looked at is straw. On these other bonnets, the fabric ruffle is made of the same fashion fabric as the outside of the bonnet. Would a straw bonnet have the ruffle? What would it be made of on a straw hat? 2) The bonnet in the fashion plate has an elaborate bow and tassel trim on the visible side. Would there have been the same trim on both sides of the head ? Or just on one side? 3) There's something sort of poufy or ruffly going on inside the brim of the bonnet. Would the lining have been poufy or did fashionable women still wear caps under their bonnets in '49? 4) There are also flowers trimming the inside of the brim. Would those have been arranged the same way on both sides of the head, or asymmetrically? Thank you for any thoughts you might share! Best, Lauren - Original Message - ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Review of Farewell, My Queen
That looks pretty interesting. And lovely. LynnD On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: http://www.sfgate.com/default/**article/Farewell-My-Queen-** review-reviving-Antoinette-**3702568.phphttp://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Farewell-My-Queen-review-reviving-Antoinette-3702568.php Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? my fav...
I hesitated to respond because I don't remember exactly what year/s the pattern covers, but the Laughing Moon frock coat is beautiful and as historic as it can be. I just don't know if it's CW-era or slightly later. LynnD On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Melody Watts celticredhead2...@yahoo.comwrote: Since no one has answered this, I will get the ball rolling (so everyone who didn't answer can tell me what crap these patterns are,cause they are Big 3 patterns ) but I have used this one with success, McCalls M6143. It is a multi size pattern for kids and adults,has 4 American Heros in it Uncle Sam,Statue of Liberty, Tom Jefferson and Abe Lincoln The Abe Lincoln pattern is a simple to put together Frock type coat ,that turns out quite well. I used this to make my then Teenage son a Black Frock coat as featured on the main characters in the 1990's movie Tombstone. I used a havy canvas /slubby linen for a more Cowboy ,less Townie look. He still has it ,and he's 35. You can use better material,line it and add fancy buttons, It is simple and not compliccated to use. McCalls's also offeres a mens Civil war Officers Jacket M4745. Has 2 vaariations. Now, let the opionions begin... melody From: aqua...@patriot.net aqua...@patriot.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: [h-cost] Civil War Frock Coat Pattern? Hello, A friend just asked me, can anyone recommend a pattern for an American Civil War era frock coat? Thank you! -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
That's funny because it was The Rhinestone Guy who told us that they weren't being made anymore because there wasn't a need for them. But as I said that was 10 years ago or so and things do change. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net wrote: www.rhinestoneguy.com also has the rose montees - unfortunately you can't order thru the website, you need to call or email. But we've gotten stuff from him and his prices are pretty good. Sandy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
Are you looking for rhinestone yardage? I have seen that JoAnn Fabrics carries that in the recent past. However, I just looked on their website and I don't see much. Perhaps you can check at some of the large trim companies - Wright, Westrim, Plaid. I know I've seen it on those plastic oval trim bolts on the trims wall. Are you actually finding the sew-in rhinestones you don't want? The ones with the base attached to the stone and four little holes with which you can sew the whole thing onto your fabric? Where?!? I was told at least 10 years ago that those aren't being made anymore and to use the prong jewels. The prongs tear silk taffeta and I don't like the way they snag onto everything near them. Please share your source for the sew-ins. Please, please. I've got some I used on a costume Thanks, LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I want to buy some rhinestone elements to sew onto a dress, but I'm not finding what I need. I don't want individual sew-on rhinestones. The closest I can come to what I want is vintage rhinestone jewelery - something that looks a little like a tiara only in necklace form. I've actually been looking at vintage jewelry for something I can take apart, but so far all I've found is too small and/or much too dark unless I start looking at the really expensive pieces. (multiple hundreds!) Modern formal dresses often have a fake buckle or something resembling a brooch sewn on the bodice front or back, etc. What do you call these pieces? Having a few more search terms to use might improve my google-fu. Denise Iowa __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
Wow, those embellishments weren't even on my radar. They're lovely. Unfortunately, no. These look like costume pieces when you get up close. The sew-ons I'm talking about had a metal base with grooves formed into the back making an 'x' through which you sewed the rhinestone onto the fabric. This base wrapped around the glass 'stone.' They looked really, really good, very much like the pronged ones do - without the backing forcing itself through the fabric. I haven't seen them in years. I had a costume with hundreds sewn to it (it cost a fortune and weighed a ton) and am now planning to take them all off to reuse elsewhere. I bought them at Berger's Beads or Bohemian Beads in downtown Los Angeles probably 30 years ago - they had millions - and haven't seen them since. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: Whilst I am playing the busybody, are these the sew-on rhinestones you seek? http://www.firemountaingems.com/shopping.asp?skw=Swarovski-Sew-On - Original Message - From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:24:19 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Are you looking for rhinestone yardage? I have seen that JoAnn Fabrics carries that in the recent past. However, I just looked on their website and I don't see much. Perhaps you can check at some of the large trim companies - Wright, Westrim, Plaid. I know I've seen it on those plastic oval trim bolts on the trims wall. Are you actually finding the sew-in rhinestones you don't want? The ones with the base attached to the stone and four little holes with which you can sew the whole thing onto your fabric? Where?!? I was told at least 10 years ago that those aren't being made anymore and to use the prong jewels. The prongs tear silk taffeta and I don't like the way they snag onto everything near them. Please share your source for the sew-ins. Please, please. I've got some I used on a costume Thanks, LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I want to buy some rhinestone elements to sew onto a dress, but I'm not finding what I need. I don't want individual sew-on rhinestones. The closest I can come to what I want is vintage rhinestone jewelery - something that looks a little like a tiara only in necklace form. I've actually been looking at vintage jewelry for something I can take apart, but so far all I've found is too small and/or much too dark unless I start looking at the really expensive pieces. (multiple hundreds!) Modern formal dresses often have a fake buckle or something resembling a brooch sewn on the bodice front or back, etc. What do you call these pieces? Having a few more search terms to use might improve my google-fu. Denise Iowa __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costume http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
I don't know, Roxanne. The page opened in Chinese saying that the website is banned and not safe. Is this a political thing or a pirate website? LD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Roxanne Price price_roxa...@hotmail.comwrote: What you are describing sounds a lot like these: http://hjaccessory.com/ProductShow.asp?PicID=203 Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:12:06 -0700 From: lynndownw...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Wow, those embellishments weren't even on my radar. They're lovely. Unfortunately, no. These look like costume pieces when you get up close. The sew-ons I'm talking about had a metal base with grooves formed into the back making an 'x' through which you sewed the rhinestone onto the fabric. This base wrapped around the glass 'stone.' They looked really, really good, very much like the pronged ones do - without the backing forcing itself through the fabric. I haven't seen them in years. I had a costume with hundreds sewn to it (it cost a fortune and weighed a ton) and am now planning to take them all off to reuse elsewhere. I bought them at Berger's Beads or Bohemian Beads in downtown Los Angeles probably 30 years ago - they had millions - and haven't seen them since. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: Whilst I am playing the busybody, are these the sew-on rhinestones you seek? http://www.firemountaingems.com/shopping.asp?skw=Swarovski-Sew-On - Original Message - From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:24:19 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Are you looking for rhinestone yardage? I have seen that JoAnn Fabrics carries that in the recent past. However, I just looked on their website and I don't see much. Perhaps you can check at some of the large trim companies - Wright, Westrim, Plaid. I know I've seen it on those plastic oval trim bolts on the trims wall. Are you actually finding the sew-in rhinestones you don't want? The ones with the base attached to the stone and four little holes with which you can sew the whole thing onto your fabric? Where?!? I was told at least 10 years ago that those aren't being made anymore and to use the prong jewels. The prongs tear silk taffeta and I don't like the way they snag onto everything near them. Please share your source for the sew-ins. Please, please. I've got some I used on a costume Thanks, LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I want to buy some rhinestone elements to sew onto a dress, but I'm not finding what I need. I don't want individual sew-on rhinestones. The closest I can come to what I want is vintage rhinestone jewelery - something that looks a little like a tiara only in necklace form. I've actually been looking at vintage jewelry for something I can take apart, but so far all I've found is too small and/or much too dark unless I start looking at the really expensive pieces. (multiple hundreds!) Modern formal dresses often have a fake buckle or something resembling a brooch sewn on the bodice front or back, etc. What do you call these pieces? Having a few more search terms to use might improve my google-fu. Denise Iowa __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costume http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
Sharon, will that work? It seems that the settings I've seen have double prongs - one for the stone and one to go through the fabric. I;d also like to apologize to Denise for kind of taking over her question. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: Just sew on the back first, using an X stitch, without the stone in it. The back will be attached, but not going through the fabric. Then set the stone into the prongs. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
Hi Lauren, The jewels at Jan's (which I'd never heard of) and at Shipwreck Beads (which I had) are just what I've been looking for. The Preciosa Rhinestones are relatively new and, although I'd seen them in the catalog, I didn't realize they were singles. I thought they were looped together in a chain. I'm SO excited! Thank you! LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: PS: If the rose montee is the setting you're looking for, apparently they are still made. http://www.shipwreckbeads.com/catalog/Findings-and-Components/Preciosa-Rhinestones/Preciosa-Rose-Montee-Rhinestones//orderBy/sku/itemsPerPage/20/page/1/item/3RH109 Which I suppose means they are not it. But hope springs eternal. - Original Message - From: lauren walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:48:03 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Lynn, Continuing to act the busybody--any chance the stones you seek are these rose montees? Jan's gets new/old stock and vintage stuff, if these are not the droids you're looking for she still might now where you could find them. http://www.jansjewels.com/other/serhi-4.html - Original Message - From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:56:40 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Sharon, will that work? It seems that the settings I've seen have double prongs - one for the stone and one to go through the fabric. I;d also like to apologize to Denise for kind of taking over her question. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Just sew on the back first, using an X stitch, without the stone in it. The back will be attached, but not going through the fabric. Then set the stone into the prongs. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
Thanks again, Lauren. Lynn (now where was that Shipwreck catalog?) On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: Oh, yay! I love when I find something! The one problem with the Internet is that you have to find the name of something before you can find the something. Enjoy! Lauren - Original Message - From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:14:55 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Hi Lauren, The jewels at Jan's (which I'd never heard of) and at Shipwreck Beads (which I had) are just what I've been looking for. The Preciosa Rhinestones are relatively new and, although I'd seen them in the catalog, I didn't realize they were singles. I thought they were looped together in a chain. I'm SO excited! Thank you! LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: PS: If the rose montee is the setting you're looking for, apparently they are still made. http://www.shipwreckbeads.com/catalog/Findings-and-Components/Preciosa-Rhinestones/Preciosa-Rose-Montee-Rhinestones//orderBy/sku/itemsPerPage/20/page/1/item/3RH109 Which I suppose means they are not it. But hope springs eternal. - Original Message - From: lauren walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:48:03 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Lynn, Continuing to act the busybody--any chance the stones you seek are these rose montees? Jan's gets new/old stock and vintage stuff, if these are not the droids you're looking for she still might now where you could find them. http://www.jansjewels.com/other/serhi-4.html - Original Message - From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:56:40 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Sharon, will that work? It seems that the settings I've seen have double prongs - one for the stone and one to go through the fabric. I;d also like to apologize to Denise for kind of taking over her question. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Just sew on the back first, using an X stitch, without the stone in it. The back will be attached, but not going through the fabric. Then set the stone into the prongs. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
Rebecca, congratulations on being able to cut one outfit from another. However, if you need new summer-weigt wool, please check out B. Black and Sons in Los Angeles California. They have all sorts of colors and prices. Their website is www.bblackandsons.com but their customer service is fantastic. At least any time I've been there I've had nothing but wonderful service. I have no financial connection to B Black Sons except for the hundreds of dollars I've given them over the past 12-15 years. It's pretty much the only place I go for wool anymore except for Britex in San Francisco. LynnD On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Rebecca lotsofteap...@charter.net wrote: I saw Ansel this weekend - he's looking great! I can't wait to see what he'll be wearing this season :) Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of REBECCA BURCH Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 10:53 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- Ansel Jr is currently wearing the mock up of the new doublet I will be making for Frobisher this year. Ansel has been on a diet and lost many inches since the last Frobie suit I made him, so the old pattern won't fit any more. I am going to take the opportunity of our visit next week to fit him in person. I'm also going to bring the old suit home and hopefully remake it. Tropical weight wool is hard to find anymore. Slightly off topic - my husband and I will be in Chicago next week. We will have Tuesday and Wednesday available to sight see. Anybody have any must see things to suggest? We will be in intensive rehearsals for a concert at the Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette the rest of the week. If anybody is interested, there will be two free concerts on Sunday, May 27 at 9:30a and 12:30p. -Original Message- From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: H-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 5:26 pm Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? It's that time of year: spring parties, summer balls, summer theater season, LARPs, historic recreation events, costume conventions fandom. You might even be planning a sojourn to a balmy tropical locale or a historic site. Whatever the reason, h-costumers are probably making something. So, what's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today? --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com PS. It's ok to run into the sewing room, toss something marvelous on the dummy and *then* tell us about it. It's also ok to tell what's in your design sketchbook, on the worktable, at the sewing machine or in the embroidery hoop. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2169 / Virus Database: 2425/5008 - Release Date: 05/18/12 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Reminder: Costumers/Sewers Bazaar, Concord CA
Mark your calendars! Please join us in a fundraiser for Butterfield 8 Theatre Company. Sunday May 6th is the Costumers/Sewers Bazaar! Fabric, Notions, Costumes, Hats, Shoes and more! We have committed ourselves to cleaning out our stashes. What does this mean for you? Great deals! Vintage wear, hand crafted masks, patterns, trim . . . the list is endless! 11 - 4 at Butterfield 8/Cue Productions 1835 Colfax Street, Concord (Willow Pass Colfax) Right next door to East Bay Music Cost: $5 at the door - all door proceeds go to Butterfield 8. For more info contact Liz at costumersstu...@gmail.com PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS EVERYWHERE! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Reminder: Costumers/Sewers Bazaar, Concord CA
Concord, CA. that's in California. I put it in the header so people in Florida or Colorado didn't need to open it. LynnD On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:42 PM, REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Concord Where?? Mass??? New Hampshire???California ??? Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- --- On Tue, 5/1/12, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com wrote: From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com Subject: [h-cost] Reminder: Costumers/Sewers Bazaar, Concord CA To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, Historic Needlework h-needlew...@ansteorra.org, cgwcostum...@yahoogroups.com, silicon...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 1, 2012, 3:17 PM Mark your calendars! Please join us in a fundraiser for Butterfield 8 Theatre Company. Sunday May 6th is the Costumers/Sewers Bazaar! Fabric, Notions, Costumes, Hats, Shoes and more! We have committed ourselves to cleaning out our stashes. What does this mean for you? Great deals! Vintage wear, hand crafted masks, patterns, trim . . . the list is endless! 11 - 4 at Butterfield 8/Cue Productions 1835 Colfax Street, Concord (Willow Pass Colfax) Right next door to East Bay Music Cost: $5 at the door - all door proceeds go to Butterfield 8. For more info contact Liz at costumersstu...@gmail.com PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REPOST THIS EVERYWHERE! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Fabric Costume Rummage Sale Extravaganza, Concord, CA May 6
Hi everyone, I apologize if you receive this message more than once. I'm forwarding it to multiple lists. Liz Martin and I are putting together what we’re calling “The Fabric Costume Rummage Sale Extravaganza” in early May and wondered if you’d be interested in participating. The basics: WHO: Benefit for Butterfield 8 Theater WHAT: The Fabric Costume Rummage Sale Extravaganza WHERE: Cue Live Productions Theater on Colfax in “old downtown” Concord, Butterfield 8’s playhouse WHEN: Sunday, May 6, 11-5; we have the space from 9-7 HOW MUCH: $20 for a space to sell; $5 for a table; you’re encouraged to bring your own table and rack. The sale will help the sellers move stuff from their closets to someone else’s and be a benefit for Butterfield 8, a wonderful small non-profit theater group under the directorship of John Butterfield and Maureen-Theresa Williams. http://www.b8company.com/ There will be a $5 admission fee to our public and all proceeds from the space/table rental and door will go to Butterfield 8. The money you make at your table is your money and not part of the proceeds. We expect to sell sandwiches, drinks, snacks, etc. at the bar, also for Butterfield 8. (Of course, you can always bring your own food and drink.) We hope to hold a raffle or two and the discussion is on for tickets to the Butterfield 8 opening night to Lettice and Lovage by Peter Shaffer, which opens soon after the Extravaganza. There might also be bottles of wine, sewing books and a basket or two of sewing bits and bobs. All profits will go to Butterfield 8 and donations for any of the above will be gladly accepted. This sale won’t just be for costumers, although I expect most of our customers will be interested in some sort of costuming and sewing. We hope that with our diverse advertising, we’ll interest general seamsters as well as costumers so that any fabric, trim, patterns, pieces of not-really costuming, can be sold, not just accurate, period-appropriate items. Please reply to me offlist at lynndownw...@gmail.com and let me know if you're interested in joining us so we can add you to our Rummagee's list. Please use the rummage sale in the subject line so I know you’re interested in signing up with us. For those of you who would rather be Rummagers than Rummagees, we'll send out a notice a couple of weeks before the date. We hope to hear from you soon! Thank you, Lynn Downward ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ghent Alterpiece
Sorry about the poor link.That's all that was offered in the article. But isn't it GORGEOUS!?! Lynn On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! That was a complete, working link :) ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Helen Pinto wrote: I'm in Firefox and this worked for me: http://closertovaneyck.**kikirpa.be/#homehttp://closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be/#home -Helen/Aidan __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Ghent Alterpiece
Maybe we don't have to go to Belgium after all. The Ghent Alterpiece is now online. Two articles about it in the LA TImes: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/11/opinion/la-oe-charney-ghent-20120311 http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/11/entertainment/la-ca-ghent-altarpiece-20100711 and the link: *closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be* It takes a while to load, so be patient. Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ghent Alterpiece
It took me reading the articles twice before i found it wy at the bottom. It is there. It seems to be a partial link but it opened for me. It's lovely and worth the work to find it. As one of the articles says, it's a piece from Art History 101. I fell in love with it as a teenager and it's even better now with this restoration. Lynn closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: My browser (now recovered from the earlier spam message) can't find the link (frustrated look!). waaah! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Ghent Alterpiece
Also, Marjorie, perhaps FireFox doesn't like the link. Do you have other options? On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: My browser (now recovered from the earlier spam message) can't find the link (frustrated look!). waaah! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: closertovaneyck.kikirpa.be __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] History of pattern sheets with overlapping patterns
Fran, That's really interesting information. I knew about later periods with patterns later in the 19C and in the 20th but this early information is all new. Thanks for sharing. Having worked with Burda patterns from their magazines (in German without the seam allowances) before I made costumes and learned more, I can only imagine that the women sewing from their homes from these magazines had to be really determined to get that pattern. LynnD On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: OK, I wrote this for another forum, but thought you guys might be interested. I own published pattern sheets dating from the early 1830s, the earliest I can find. (Tissue patterns for consumers [that is, not tailor’s master patterns] were sold as early as the 1820s, but as far as I have been able to discern, these were single patterns.) Thee early sheets overlap patterns a bit, on the edges, maybe a very small piece completely inside a larger piece. As the 1850s went on, pattern sheets became denser. The primary origins of many (if not most) published Victorian pattern sheets were German. Der Bazar (in Berlin) licensed all their sewing patterns, needlework patterns, and black-and-white fashion plates to La Mode Illustrée, De Graciuese (in Holland) and from fall 1867 on, to Harper’s Bazar. Also to numerous similar magazines in Spain, Russia, and other countries. They did not always publish identical issues, but the same material appeared in all the magazines in short order, accompanied by text in the native language. Around 1901 Harper’s Bazar quit licensing the full set of material from Der Bazar, but La Mode Illustrée continued. This widespread international licensing system was broken up by World War 1. However, the Germans (Burda) currently publish overlapping pattern sheets and publish editions in different languages, including English. The Japanese also use them, and sometimes publish versions in English. Both the German and the Japanese pattern publications are popular with modern US sewers who want something a little different. I used a full set of 1867-1868 Harper’s Bazar pattern sheets for my book Reconstruction Era Fashions. The sheet size is typically about 20 ½ by 30 ½ inches, although extra-large sheets were used a few times a year. The sheets are always printed on both sides. Different line types are used to distinguish different patterns. Harper’s Bazar proudly advertised a tracing wheel (which looks exactly like a modern one) for tracing single pattern pieces onto other paper. The assembly instructions are on the left sides of the sheets and the fashion plates are within the magazine. However, certain patterns were featured by having significant fabric and trimming suggestions and more assembly information included within the body of the magazine. Sometimes patterns for embroidery, braiding, or other needlework were designed for a specific pattern, and often these were in the main body of the magazine rather than on the pattern sheet. Therefore I included this supplementary material in the book. I also used dozens of 1877-1882 Harper’s Bazar pattern sheets and magazines for my two-volume Fashions of the Gilded Age. The format was much the same as in the late 1860s. Given the short time frame between the appearance of different international editions, my guess is that Der Bazar’s licenses required the other countries to publish the patterns slightly after German publication. And, even if the choice of the foreign patterns for an issue was exactly the same as for Der Bazar, the arrangement and lines on the sheets are different. This says to me that rather than making and shipping multiple sets of printing plates, that Der Bazar shipped full-size paper patterns to their licencees, who then laid them out and traced them onto the metal plates used for engraving. If a pattern piece was too large for the plate, the printer folded over the paper pattern and traced the folded-over part onto the plate. (For example, if a dress was too long they folded up the bottom, so that the line for the hem is printed above the edge of the sheet.) The printer probably also traced the fashion plates, which are clearly woodcuts rather than metal engravings. I have period instructions, not related to Harper’s Bazar, for “rubbing off” a printed woodcut onto a new block of wood, to then engrave with woodcutting tools. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Mmmm. Clove and lavender! And I have a large bottle of them left over from making orange pomanders. That's a great idea. Thank you On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM, seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.comwrote: I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
...@juno.com seamst...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Starch recipe
Very cool and thanks for sharing! I did wonder what sort of form the women used to iron their sleeves since a regular ham wouldn't work so well. LynnD On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: When starching ironing is a necessity u less the item can be dried flat or in shape--the balloons allow the sleeve and starch to be dried in shape. Minimizes that tedious ironing. SOme of my sleeves are as big as watermelons. I have some down filled sleeve puffs for my 1830s, the softest most wonderful things. Copied from some at the MFA in Boston. Back to the 1890s, I also have an original little sleeve ironing board from the 1890s, basically a little curved croissant shaped wooden board with a screw clamp to attach it to a table, it can fit into the gathered sleeve of a blouse. Katy On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:46 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu wrote: I have a pair of early 19th C. down pads for the sleeves of the 1820's and re-discovered in the Gay 90s to provide petticoats for the second generation of balloon sleeves... have also seen tulle shoulder cuffs to do the same service...Doing the stuffing with baloons or whatever and using?spray starch creates the form that could benefit the underpinnings.? -Original Message- From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com Sent 2/14/2012 1:05:13 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Starch recipeThanks. When I am starching my large puffed 1890s leg-o-mutton sleeves, a real pain to iron, I blow up a balloon in the sleeve when it is wet and dry it stretched as flat as possible over the balloon to reduce the amount of ironing needed--it works great. Though my daughter is sad when I have to pop the balloon to get it out. Katy On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Martha Kelly marthake...@nyc.rr.com wro te: From the Argo web site: Q: Can I make laundry starch from Argo and Kingsford's corn starch? A: ?Yes you can starch clothing with regular corn starch. In a large bo wl or pot, stir 1/2 cup of corn starch into 1 cup of cold water. Stir in boiling water (2 quarts for a heavy solution; 4 quarts for medium and 6 quarts fo r a light solution). Dip the clothing into the starch solution and let dry. To iron, sprinkle the garments lightly with warm water, roll up and place in a plastic bag until evenly moistened, then iron as usual. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? www.VintageVictorian.comhttp://www.vintagevictorian.com/ ? ?? Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. ? ? ? Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.comhttp://www.vintagevictorian.com/ Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine
Yes it did, and I couldn't figure out (then) why anyone would need a round buttonhole. Now I can think of several uses for it. Lynn On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Rickard, Patty ricka...@mountunion.eduwrote: Was that the one that would actually do round buttonhole? Patty since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty buttonhole foot accessory. That was a wonder! Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine
Yes, my Kenmore was from 1973 and it has run like iron except when it was new and I didn't oil it. I've had it in once for a timing issue but it's been wonderful ever since. I have a couple of other machines but use this one most. I bought an inexpensive Singer a couple of years ago because it was lightweight and it did an amazing button hole, something no machine I've ever owned has done. I take it to Costume College and pull it out when I need button holes and it's fine. I will never give up my Kenmore; it's like an old VW - it just keeps running. LynnD On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 11:24 AM, lynn tlynn1...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to second the old Kenmore machines of the late 70's are workhorses. I was given one for my 8th grade graduation. I have sewn many a delicate wedding gown and delicates to tent repairs and leather. It is an all metal workhorse. I have had it actually repaired twice in my life. I just got a new machine with all the bells and whistles more because I wanted it then needed but the repair shop insisted I should hang on to the kenmore because it's a solid machine. Clearly the different years are vastly different and not the same at all. I would recommend one because they are so simple to use. All the new Kenmores are awful, all plastice Oh and Hi everyone :) Tanya ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] beginner sewing machine
Not at home, so I can't be certain. It's either a Singer Tradition 2250 or 2259 or an Esteem II 2273. They all seem to have the same manual. Actually, the machine was on sale at Target for $69 instead of the usual $89 or $99 and didn't come with a manual; I had to download it from the Singer website - therefore my confusion. It's the first machine I've owned that had a one-step buttonhole since I moved from my mom's early 1950s Singer with the nifty buttonhole foot accessory. That was a wonder! Lynn On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.comwrote: So what was the model number of the amazing buttonhole machine? alex seriously considering purchasing a machine just for the buttonhole feature, but still prefers her 1954 Pfaff, another of those workhorses that does sews everything but buttonholes. So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com wrote: I bought an inexpensive Singer a couple of years ago because it was lightweight and it did an amazing button hole, something no machine I've ever owned has done. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Eiko Ishoka
No one mentioned this yet, but we lost Eiko Ishioka,the costume designer for, among other things, Bram Stoker's Dracula. I remember how excited the people not demanding perfect historical clothing were with these costumes when the movie came out. She also designed for Broadway, Cirque du Soleil and Bjork. http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20120126/US.Obit.Ishioka/ Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Underpinnings
My grandmother was convinced that, although flannel was warmer than other kinds of fabric for underthings, the warmest flannel was red. Something in the color insured that it was better for winter than any other color of flannel. It could even be plaid, but it HAD to be mostly red. She had a large piece of red flannel she'd wrap around the neck of anyone who was sick. I saw her wear it many times and I wore it myself if I visited when I was sick. She had (white) flannel vests to wear under her slips when it was winter and one red vest for those really cold days. And she lived in San Francisco, not the coldest area of the world! LynnD On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Angelique Carlson subversivey...@me.comwrote: This topic is really interesting. My great grandmother, post Victorian and a very conservative dresser, wore a red winter petticoat. I believe it was flannel. When I was young I though that it was amazing and wanted one of my own. I wonder how ideas and colors of underpinnings have changed. Angelique Grandmother was a tee totaling Methodist and not wild in the least. She did bake an excellent sugar cream pie and smelled like Lavendar. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Beading supplies
The 3 or 4 1920s dresses I've had in my hands had the beads sewn on as Lisa said. They are sewn down by going through 2 or 3 or 4 beads then looped under the fabric back one or two beads then up through the fabric and into the last bead or two sewn and one or two more. You're always going through most of the beads twice. When I've Sewn beads down, I tend to knot off every 4 or so. That way, when I lose some beads, I' only losing a few at at time, not whole strings of beads. LynnD On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, lis...@juno.com wrote: I can speak to your bead needs. I have a little experience with them. The first issue is that you want to couch them, AND that you want them to be washable and dry-cleanable after having couched them on. At least that's what I understood you wanted. Couching is fine, but you should not do it using the thread that the beads are sold on, because that thread is not made to be used for that nor is it durable. So.what I would do, is re-string the beads on bead thread or C-lon (which is pretty heavy thread that I use for bead crochet) or buttonhole thread. Then you can couch it on using bead thread or quilting thread. Even so, I personally would not trust any garment so beaded to a dry cleaner. I would expect some beads to come off. Unless it is a specialty dry-cleaner that does a lot of that sort of thing., and has a good reputation. Any glass or crystal beads will be washable--in fact, the garment could be carefully washed by hand with Woolite or any such cleaner, and laid out to dry on towels or racks safely. Couching is not a favorite method of mine. I generally actually SEW the beads to the fabric, 3 or 4 at a time. But that's me. Yours in cosutming,Lis AA On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:00:11 -0800 Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com writes: I don't really like beading. Most of my experience is in restoring 1920s evening dresses. When I am working on one section, more sections are always coming apart. Having said that, I want to buy strands of (washable and dry cleanable) fine glass beads I can couch onto a project, meaning the thread for the strands has to be of permanent quality, not just beads strung together for sale. Where can I buy them? Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Beading supplies
Ah, that's a different story. Yes, you can sometimes find beaded ribbon, in my experience seldom when I want it and never in the right color. Styles and colors are often slim. Even though you want to just couch them down, you may still want to transfer the pre-strung beads to a sturdier thread before couching. Bead companies really don't use sturdy thread, and often times the beads, made of glass, are sharp on the edges and will wear through the thread. LynnD On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com wrote: I've often seen beads on 1920s dresses machine sewn on. When the thread pulls through thin fabric, leaving a string of beads, I couch them down over the thread because it's easiest. I wanted these beads for an entirely different project, to add to the edges of brocade ribbon. Maybe I can just buy beaded ribbon! Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 1/3/2012 1:59 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: The 3 or 4 1920s dresses I've had in my hands had the beads sewn on as Lisa said. They are sewn down by going through 2 or 3 or 4 beads then looped under the fabric back one or two beads then up through the fabric and into the last bead or two sewn and one or two more. You're always going through most of the beads twice. When I've Sewn beads down, I tend to knot off every 4 or so. That way, when I lose some beads, I' only losing a few at at time, not whole strings of beads. LynnD On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM,lis...@juno.com wrote: I can speak to your bead needs. I have a little experience with them. The first issue is that you want to couch them, AND that you want them to be washable and dry-cleanable after having couched them on. At least that's what I understood you wanted. Couching is fine, but you should not do it using the thread that the beads are sold on, because that thread is not made to be used for that nor is it durable. So.what I would do, is re-string the beads on bead thread or C-lon (which is pretty heavy thread that I use for bead crochet) or buttonhole thread. Then you can couch it on using bead thread or quilting thread. Even so, I personally would not trust any garment so beaded to a dry cleaner. I would expect some beads to come off. Unless it is a specialty dry-cleaner that does a lot of that sort of thing., and has a good reputation. Any glass or crystal beads will be washable--in fact, the garment could be carefully washed by hand with Woolite or any such cleaner, and laid out to dry on towels or racks safely. Couching is not a favorite method of mine. I generally actually SEW the beads to the fabric, 3 or 4 at a time. But that's me. Yours in cosutming,Lis AA On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:00:11 -0800 Lavolta Pressf...@lavoltapress.com writes: I don't really like beading. Most of my experience is in restoring 1920s evening dresses. When I am working on one section, more sections are always coming apart. Having said that, I want to buy strands of (washable and dry cleanable) fine glass beads I can couch onto a project, meaning the thread for the strands has to be of permanent quality, not just beads strung together for sale. Where can I buy them? Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1880s hairstyles
Wanda, my hair is a perfect #4 in false hair plus about 50% grey. Since the mix of #4 and grey come only in 25% or 75% grey, I purchase #4 and 25% grey and comb the two together until they blend. Work on towel and expect to lose a bunch from the hank of hair you're building; the lost hair goes into a baggie and it will make a hair rat later. Keep brushing or combing the two together until the blend matches your own hair and you can make your own shade of blond and grey or white. The only difference between a poly switch and your own hair is that the store-bought stuff, unless human hair, will be shinier. I solve that by covering it with a net that cuts down on the shine. I understand you can also use hair spray on your own hair to shiny it up. LynnD On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Wanda Pease wan...@hevanet.com wrote: On 10/23/2011 6:31 AM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: And your reply to any inquiries will be of course it's my own hair! I paid for it myself. (or just omit the 2nd sentence) The trick with any kind of hair bits and pieces (and I see from Fran's books which I certainly recommend were used extensively) is to match your own hair well enough that it isn't evident. For me this is going to be tricky since the shade isn't really blonde, and not fright wig white. If I get real human hair I suppose it could go in the same dye bath I use on my own to even out the color or lack thereof. It was easier when I could pick a color and get away with it, but my skin is firmly saying you are 65 and should be proud of it! Wanda __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Has anyone here beaded garments with real stones
I have sewn Indian garnets and (horrors!) thousands of 2nd grade rice pearls onto a forepart. The forepart was dry cleaned several times over a few years of wear and I had no problems with either; however, I used to have a very special dryclean company that has since gone the way of all good, family companies. Both the people at Fire Mountain Beads and RIngs and Things suggest that testing be done to any beads or stones before sewing to garments because the dye may wash out and ruin your garment. Perhaps you can sew one of the stones to the inside hem of something you're about to dry clean and see if the color is stable. If you do sew them onto something, I suggest you make a knot between every 3-4 beads, so that if the stone shreds the thread, you only lose a few beads. LynnD On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: It depends on the stones. Diamonds rubies are very hard to fracture. Opals, pearls emeralds very easy. I accidently laundered my tanzanite ring when I left it in the pocket of a pair of jeans. It did color change slightly. Worse, the setting got scratched. Check the Moh's hardness scale for an idea, knowing whether your rocks are natural, synthetic or synthesized stones will also help. FWIW, Some rocks are still a bit rough thru the hole might cut the thread that sews them onto the gown. In any case, I wouldnt launder or dryclean the dress. I have a vintage 50s dress with clear quartz in individual settings that are sewn on. Still dont have any idea how to clean that dress. Do let me know when you're rich enough to sew diamonds onto your dresses. I'm going to be your very best friend. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM, cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com wrote: I have not done what you're describing, but I just checked with a friend who is a jewelry maker. She says the stones would survive dry cleaning, but the color may change. She said she wouldn't risk it. I've sewn beads (glass pearls) onto fabric with a standard beading needle. Claudine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Saques
I think that if they were adult pinafores or aprons they would close in the back, not the front. An apron opened down the front wouldn't be much protection to clothing, I would think. Other than that, I can't give any insights to what you have. LynnD On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.orgwrote: My immediate reaction to the pictures (thanks!!!), was... hmm, look at the discolorations, maybe hard-used... reminds me of the idea of a pinafore or apron, for the top half of the body! I had descriptions from both grandmothers, I think, of their childhood wardrobes, of one dress for Sunday, one dress for the rest of the week, and a clean pinafore for every day! So only the pinafores got washed weekly... with the long sleeves for grown women, this would make sense, to me, anyway, because women would be doing housework and cooking that could easily dirty the sleeve at the wrist and lower arm, so that part of the under dress would also need protection, not just the front of the under dress... Are there any adult-sized pinafores or aprons in those garbage bags, of similar material? Or have you gotten that far yet? The ruffled neck is very interesting, for a utilitarian item... but I suppose if you were going to be spending a large part of the day in it, it would be an easy way to fancy-up a little... Looking forward to hearing more as yr excavations continue through bag-land. chimene On Sep 22, 2011, at 11:22 AM, WorkroomButtons.com wrote: Definitely not a clothing expert, either, but it certainly makes sense to me. Consultants far wiser than I have documented them as garments specifically worn by women. Link: www.flickr.com/photos/workroombuttons/sets/72157627724105088/detail Dede --- On Thu, 9/22/11, Angelique Carlson subversivey...@me.com wrote: Disclaimer- I am not a costuming expert, I just like clothes and lurk here. I wonder if they might be for women who are breastfeeding? You could have access quickly, which was necessary for me, and also modesty. What do you think? Angelique ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie Costume Question: McGonagall's Yule Ensemble
Hi chimene, I don't quite know how #3076 got involved in the link, but Simplicity 2529 is indeed the cape with the pointy bits on the shoulder that I wrote about. If you hold your cursor over the shoulder area it will zoom in and you can see the points. I don't eve know if there is a pattern 3076. LynnD On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.orgwrote: Hi Lynn, Unfortunately, the URL below (for pattern 3076) now re-directs to what you were probably referring to as the dreadful costume cape, pattern 2529. Do you have any idea where one might find even an image of the real 3076? thanks in any case, chimene On Sep 14, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: I can't address most of your questions - I haven't seen the movie enough to be able to fast-forward directly to that scene. However, I maybe can offer a suggestion to the fabulous sleeve caps. There is a Simplicity pattern for a dreadful costume cape. Unfortunately it's out of print. It's really close to what you want. But if you could get a copy of it, I'm sure you could extend the points to the height you wanted. I wanted to buy it on sale specifically to see how they did the sleeve cap. http://www.simplicity.com/p-3076-misses-men-teen-costumes.aspx LynnD ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Techniques - sample suggestions? (long)
Someone used it on my daughter's renaissance skirt when I didn't have time to finish it and another project in time. Someone I PAID. It was bulky, you could see the sewing threads on the right side (not as big a problem from stage) and, the worst issue, it hung badly and gave the wrong silhouette. After one weekend of hating it, I ripped it out and redid the pleats. I'll never use it. LynnD On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: I've tried it, but as it makes tiny, 1/2 inch pleats and you have to sew all those on by hand, it's more hand sewing than doing it differently. Plus, it adds a lot of bulk, if you are trying to fit a large amount of fabric onto a small waistband, for example. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:18 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Techniques - sample suggestions? (long) On 8/18/2011 12:32 AM, Sharon Collier wrote: One good technique I learned was how to gather using a zigzag over a strong base thread. Very useful when gathering a LOT of material, like a big ruffle onto a skirt bottom. And the gingham method of cartridge pleating. Sharon C. Some people use drapery shirring tape for cartridge pleating--sew on the tape, then draw up the cord. I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it might work well for theater, as apparently theatrical productions often keep hand sewing and other labor-intensive techniques to the minimum. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dressing pins for 19th cdresses
Ah, Philadelphia. Nice. Thank you, Teena. LynnD On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote: www.dressu2012.com Teena From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tue, August 16, 2011 2:14:15 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] dressing pins for 19th cdresses Dress U? Please give us more information - where and when at the very least, a website if at all possible. thanks, LynnD On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Lisa A Ashton lis...@juno.com wrote: It's becasue of this discussion list thatI even know what to be on the lookout for! I have learned so much, and had so much fun making Victorian dresses and trying to make them with the authentic look. I hope to see many of you at Dress U. next spring. I'll be giving a talk on using original 19th C. Photographs as fashion sources, and I hope to gather a decent number of artifactss to set up a sort of mini-exhibit there. Yours in cosutming,Lisa A On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:30:25 -0400 penn...@costumegallery.com writes: WOW Lisa what a great find! Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/10749841596157 9 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dressing pins for 19th cdresses
Dress U? Please give us more information - where and when at the very least, a website if at all possible. thanks, LynnD On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Lisa A Ashton lis...@juno.com wrote: It's becasue of this discussion list thatI even know what to be on the lookout for! I have learned so much, and had so much fun making Victorian dresses and trying to make them with the authentic look. I hope to see many of you at Dress U. next spring. I'll be giving a talk on using original 19th C. Photographs as fashion sources, and I hope to gather a decent number of artifactss to set up a sort of mini-exhibit there. Yours in cosutming,Lisa A On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:30:25 -0400 penn...@costumegallery.com writes: WOW Lisa what a great find! Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/10749841596157 9 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I agree with you on the teeth grinding - about any group, not just SCA - and think that your generic notation about period and place are perfectly appropriate for this group. LynnD On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Rebecca Lucas quokkaqu...@hotmail.comwrote: snip It IS very offputting, for a non-SCA member, to join a list for costume or some other historic interest, and then have to deal with a constant We are the m'Lord and M'Lady, and everyone else is mundane attitude. snip Too true! For a while I was running a mailing list that would attract the occasional SCAdian, and they would blithely assume that everyone else was in the SCA too. It made me grind my teeth, let me tell you. But the point I was trying to make, was if the list is concerned about recruiting/retaining new blood, and where everyone has wandered off to, is it really worth having a 'warning' on the sign-up page that has apparently outlived it's usefulness? A one-line This list is not exclusive to members of [insert organisations here], please do not assume that everyone is thinking about the same time period and place, to prevent any confusion is probably nicer than an entire paragraph singling out one group. :) ~Rebecca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
I don't post very often but I read h-costume daily. I also like the fact that it comes to my in box and I dont' have to search for it. I'm not on facebook or twitter or anything but email. I have only so much time to play on the computer and I find that the few email lists I'm on are sufficient to fill that time. I read only one blog, written by a friend with whom I share a large community and a history; her version of the history is from a different slant and I read her religiously almost daily. I agre with Fran in that there are a lot of historic costumers out there who don't know about h-costume. I've mentioned it several times in covnersation recently and many people have asked about it; they didn't know that it's out there. I also believe that, since the inception of h-costume, more and more period-specific lists are out there and they have probably siphoned off many of the h-costume people. Kimiko's comments are a good example of that. Since she (Kimiko, sorry about using you as an example) has previously only been interested in the Tudor-Elizabethan periods, the conversations about 17-20C periods are useless to her. I'm pleased she has maintained her status on h-costume because she often has added very interesting comments and information to our conversations. There are many other lists appropriate to English 15-16C costuming, some that Kimiko started herself; these lists weren't there when h-costume started up. When you add up those people who left for more what we loosely call Ren lists those people only interested in 18C or 19C, you get fewer of us interested in several periods. I'm interested in most periods between 1550 - 1950. Where else am I going to get the information and conversations I want without going to 20 different lists? I don't have the time to go there. H-costume covers all of them, granted in a more-overviewed way, but there are enough of us we can still ask a question about an Elizabethan shift and maybe Kate Bunting or someone else very knowledgable will answer. The next day I can ask something about a Victorian accessory and be pretty sure that someone else will have an answer or a picture link. LynnD On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: Is it because costume is visual? For your other e-mail lists, are they about visual arts, or can everything be expressed with writing? When pictures are necessary people post links to them. But I don't think a picture is worth 1,000 words in costume. Usually accompanying words are necessary even for construction information. And, pictures can be not very useful for discussing social-history aspects of costume. On H-costume, if someone wants to show a finished costume or a project in progress, they need to direct us to a website. But, there are many things to say about costume other than, Here's what I am making, do you like it? That's one reason I like h-costume more than many other groups, it is less focused on personal projects. I enjoy H-costume as a view into what people are doing in other areas and eras of costume. I like that it comes into my in-box rather than having to go to various blogs or web forums. I like all that too. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days?
Yeah, h-costume an dh-needlework at about the same time, I think. LynnD On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Franchesca franchesca.ha...@gmail.comwrote: Same here, this one in its first incarnation back in 93 or 94, then a couple on Aol and a bbs. :) Franchesca : -Original Message- : From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- : boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com : Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:08 PM : To: 'Historical Costume' : Subject: Re: [h-cost] Where is everyone hanging out these days? : : So here are the questions...how did you find the h-costume email list? And : what year did you join? It will be really interesting how the newbies have : found it. : : I found it as one of two costume email lists in 1996 on AOL. : : Penny Ladnier, owner : The Costume Gallery Websites : www.costumegallery.com : 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history : FaceBook: : http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery- : Websites/107498415961579 : : ___ : h-costume mailing list : h-costume@mail.indra.com : http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Domestic Sewing Machine Disaster Ads
Yes. It says so on the third link where you see both sides of the postcard that the machine is insured against all these events. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: Can anyone tell me why the Domestic Sewing Machine Company postcardss featuring pictures of major natural disasters? Was the idea that in the event of floods, cyclones, etc., your sewing machine would still be present and intact? See: http://cgi.ebay.com/FREE-**SEWING-MACHINE-TORNADO-** CYCLONE-OMAHA-NEBR-POSTCARD-/**160539991871?pt=LH_**DefaultDomain_0hash=* *item2560eddf3fhttp://cgi.ebay.com/FREE-SEWING-MACHINE-TORNADO-CYCLONE-OMAHA-NEBR-POSTCARD-/160539991871?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2560eddf3f http://cgi.ebay.com/Free-**Sewing-machine-insured-** Memphis-Flood-Trade-Card-/**160607705199?pt=UK_** Collectables_Postcards_MJ**hash=item2564f7186fhttp://cgi.ebay.com/Free-Sewing-machine-insured-Memphis-Flood-Trade-Card-/160607705199?pt=UK_Collectables_Postcards_MJhash=item2564f7186f http://cgi.ebay.com/OH-DAYTON-**Flood-Fire-Free-Sewing-** Machine-AD-UN-R805-/**110694324371?pt=LH_**DefaultDomain_0hash=** item19c5e55893http://cgi.ebay.com/OH-DAYTON-Flood-Fire-Free-Sewing-Machine-AD-UN-R805-/110694324371?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item19c5e55893 Fran Lavolta Press Two new books of 1880s patterns! www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirt collars outside 40s coats?
And pictures of my dapper father in his teens and twentys with the same style in San Francisco. I think it was a universal style for casual wear. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.netwrote: I have a photo of my father and uncle strolling down a street in Atlanta, Suits and white shirts, collars open and over the coats, no hats. In contrast, a man seen in a doorway behind them looks like a 30s gangster in suit, tie, and jauntily tilted hat. Liadain Practical Blackwork Designs http://practicalblackwork.com http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Jill Hadfield Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirt collars outside 40s coats? At 18:18 23/06/2011, you wrote: I'm just starting to notice on contemporary photographs from 1945-1955 that many men who wore suits or sport coats without ties often wore their unbuttoned shirt collars _outside_ the coat (i.e. on top of the coat's collar rather than tucked underneath). This was prevalent in England during that time and I'm sure, into the sixties. In fact I think I've seen photos from the thirties with this style - especially for hiking or camping. Jill JiGraH Resources - www.jigrah.co.uk Suppliers of products and services for Family and Local Historians Worldwide ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirt collars outside 40s coats?
The difference between farmers/immigrants and city people/first generation citizens? My immigrant grandfather who had been a farmer in the old country and in his youth here in the US, always wore a tie and a hat outside the house, even walking the dog, even in his 90s. My father, San Francisco born in 1930, was very American as a first generation person would be. He only visited the farm in Fresno for summer, never worked there. There are lots of pictures of Dad, the dandy of his family, in the 1940s and into the 50s with his collar outside his jacket. LynnD On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.netwrote: Maybe it was the Rebel Without A Cause style of the era? Funny, I never think of open collars + pre-WWII... even pics of my grandfather, etc, from the farm had shirts buttoned all the way up. Liadain Practical Blackwork Designs http://practicalblackwork.com http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Downward Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:54 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirt collars outside 40s coats? And pictures of my dapper father in his teens and twentys with the same style in San Francisco. I think it was a universal style for casual wear. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.netwrote: I have a photo of my father and uncle strolling down a street in Atlanta, Suits and white shirts, collars open and over the coats, no hats. In contrast, a man seen in a doorway behind them looks like a 30s gangster in suit, tie, and jauntily tilted hat. Liadain Practical Blackwork Designs http://practicalblackwork.com http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Jill Hadfield Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirt collars outside 40s coats? At 18:18 23/06/2011, you wrote: I'm just starting to notice on contemporary photographs from 1945-1955 that many men who wore suits or sport coats without ties often wore their unbuttoned shirt collars _outside_ the coat (i.e. on top of the coat's collar rather than tucked underneath). This was prevalent in England during that time and I'm sure, into the sixties. In fact I think I've seen photos from the thirties with this style - especially for hiking or camping. Jill JiGraH Resources - www.jigrah.co.uk Suppliers of products and services for Family and Local Historians Worldwide ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] one of a kind wedding dress
There's a side story line about a wedding during the war in the British production, UXB, that was on PBS several years ago where the groom's friends have/steal/buy a parachute for the wedding dress. I't been a long time since i saw the program. LynnD On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Jean Waddie anne.montgome...@googlemail.com wrote: Haven't heard of that one specifically, but dresses made from parachute silk generally, certainly, in Britain. Fabric was rationed, so there were all sorts of ways of getting enough for a wedding dress, if you had time to prepare (many weddings were on-the-spot when the groom managed to get a day's leave). I have a feeling many of the British ones were made from German parachutes though, when enemy planes were shot down. Jean On 17/06/2011 18:25, m...@aol.com wrote: Has anyone heard of this wedding dress? _http://historyisclassic.**blogspot.com/2011/06/one-of-** kind-wedding.html?sprefhttp://historyisclassic.blogspot.com/2011/06/one-of-kind-wedding.html?spref =fb_ (http://historyisclassic.**blogspot.com/2011/06/one-of-** kind-wedding.html?spref=fbhttp://historyisclassic.blogspot.com/2011/06/one-of-kind-wedding.html?spref=fb ) Kelly Albrecht, ncc, amft m...@aol.com www.mysensaria.com/time2spa __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shoe glue
Barge is wonderful with a caveat. My husband repaired his heavy court ren fair boots several years ago and the place where he used the Barge still is going strong. The problem with Barge is that it can be dangerous if you don't use it outside in good ventilation - it causes woozy. It's better than Shoe Goo but hard to find as many stores have pulled it off their shelves. LynnD On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:55 AM, otsisto otsi...@socket.net wrote: I would recommend the shoe repair offered first since the boots are 50 years old and you don't have that much experience with shoe repair. If budget doesn't allow it, then the Shoe Goo which can be found at most Wal-Marts or the like stores. I have not used the Barge glue as I have not seen it and several shoe repair shops recommended the shoe goo which I have had good results. Note: first time use of the shoe goo can be a bit messy. :) De -Original Message- I have a gorgeous pair of child's cowboy boots that are at least 50 years old, but the upper is separating from the sole at the heel. A good 3 inches is no longer attached. A shoemaker is not within a manageable distance for me. Would I be successful tackling this myself? If so, what sort of glue do I need to look for? Thanks for any advice. Siobhan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tradition
You may have already seen it but there's an article in the UK Daily Mail regarding the traditions of the wedding party. I know, as much as we liked the dress, we're getting tired of the wedding news; however, this article - well, way at the bottom - identifies the children in the wedding party and at the very bottom touches on the traditions in the uniforms the boys wore. I found it interesting. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1381873/Royal-wedding-2011-Kate-Middletons-sister-Pippa-stole-show.html Of course, it's a bit gossipy and focuses on the Middleton family. There's some fabulous photos of the bridesmaid and some pictures I hadn't seen before. LynnD ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pouting about R. Wedding coverage
I met a woman who had worked in the Chanel shop (for lack of a better word) under Ms. Chanel. She said that they never had green thread in the shop because green was such bad luck - and most shades looked unflattering on most women (I have wondered which was more important). If they made a green dress they would purchase green thread for that particular dress but didn't keep it as they would black or white or the usual colors of fashion. And I love the trees too. Jean, you're absolutely right! LynnD On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Jean Waddie anne.montgome...@googlemail.com wrote: I thought the trees were brilliant. How do you get enough flowers to look significant in a huge Abbey? - just get trees instead! On 29/04/2011 19:08, Sharon Collier wrote: My daughter theorizes that Kate had always wanted an outdoor wedding and this was the compromise. I liked it. It made it magical. Tied the stone trees (pillars) into Nature. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 10:38 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] pouting about R. Wedding coverage So wierd they brought trees into Westminster! They werent there when I was in that church earlier this month. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] least favorite hat
Did you notice that the blue dress had a square neckline and shoulder rolls - mighthave made QEI proud. Yes it might have looked better in a smaller print or a solid color or even a stronger color; it seemed a bad copy of a Pizarro or Monet. I really liked the pink dress's yoke, spagetti straps woven from collar to shoulder point, very 1940s. I didn't like her hat - for a hat - but I liked it as a piece of art to sit on a stand. Maybe if it hadn't been raked so severely it might have looked better. I think that the UK has been under the thumb of Phillip Treacy for far too long. It was he who designed the sisters' hats and Camilla's hat plus several of the others at the wedding. LynnD On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: The sisters should have switched colors. Blonde Beatrice wouldn't have looked so washed out and brunette Eugenie wouldn't have looked like she was competing with her dress. Their hat fairie should be fired. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] least favorite hat Well then. My least favorite hat, of the ones I was able to see well, was HRH Beatrice's-- I think! The one wearing pink, with the odd vertical sculpture on it. Yeesh. You'd think she'd have noticed it wasn't flattering. Or perhaps they didn't give her a 360 mirror. Feathers, I can live with. But that thing was just plain odd. Her blue sister's hat was simply unfortunate; but the pink one was an oddity. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] historical stuff (some costume related)
I would bet that a Iowa-specific museum would be thrilled to get those photos you don't choose to keep. I don't quilt but I'd definitely make a blanket of the quilt pieces (maybe see if you can date the fabrics so you know who/when started the project). Other than that I can't help you. How very nice, however, to be able to touch your family again. LynnD in the city where we don't have that barn opportunity On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I inherited a crapton of stuff from my grandmother's house. It's been stored dry, but not clean, in my brother's barn for about 10 years until I brought it home last weekend. There was a lot more than I brought, but I try not to think about that. The only interesting textiles I've found so far are a veil/scarf of some kind - extremely fine black lace. It was wadded up in a wood box (like for cigars, only it says candy on the lid) and a bag of hexagon quilt pieces that I haven't looked at closely. I don't know if the lace is nylon or silk - it weighs next to nothing and is fairly fragile. it's about 15 x 50 or so and looks like it would have been for church or funerals. Oh - and a tanned mink skin in a breadbag. The photos, however are a treasure. I have one large rubbermaid tote full of albums going back to the 1870s - most of the people are identified, and there is at least one photo of a child in a coffin. O.o There aren't too many dates on the actual photos, however. There is a story inscribed on the flyleaf about how that album was the only thing rescued from a house fire when the dad broke a window from outside and reached in to get it off a bookstand. There are two books inscribed to my grandfather in 1919 several years before he graduated highschool. Both are military in nature and full of photographs. I've looked them up on Amazon and they all seem to be in the same condition as mine and are priced from $9 to $900. lol There are some great photos of military uniforms of all kinds, and everyday wear of people in Croatia, England and Germany (and prob. others). I also have my great grandfather's wood bound school slate and another one from someone with the same last name (sibling?) and a tiny pair of leather baby shoes with my dad's name on the bottom. What does a person do with this kind of stuff? I don't have infinite storage. My brother kept it all, but didn't do anything with it either. I doubt much of it has a lot of value to people who aren't related to the family in some way. Denise Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Very sad news
An arson attack destroyed Lionel Digby's costume storehouse where, among many historic pieces, the costumes for The King's Speech and Downton Abbey were held. There were also 100-year old Busby hats and Royal Guard uniforms. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373516/Kings-Speech-Downton-Abbey-costumes-destroyed-arson-attack-Lionel-Digbys-storehouse.html Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Corset patterns and research questions
Two people have mentioned JoAnn Peterson's Laughing Moon Mercantile patterns. Please know that she's already had her design copied and printed elsewhere. Blah-blah-blah copyright. Yes, I've actually seen how it is when someone I know has been ripped off. I don't want to sidetrack this conversation to copyright issues; that's been done and done twice more. I just want to suggest that since JoAnn's patterns have been mentioned, you should certainly look at them if interested and TALK to her about them. LynnD On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.netwrote: Hello, Michael, I recommend that you look into Laughing Moon Mercantile patterns ( www.lafnmoon.com ). Joanne has an excellent mid-Victorian corset pattern with both hip and bust gores. Sometimes, though, as in my case, the corsetier had to remove the hip gores to get a better fit. The main fitting issue with me is the fact that I am very short-waisted; something that will not be solved with gores. Joanne has her patterns very nicely graded, but corsets always require individual fittings since no two female bodies are shaped the same, even if the two wear the same size. Joan At 02:15 AM 3/24/2011, you wrote: Good morning everyone! I'm doing some research into corsets, and thought it best to start on here where many of you already have research. While I know a lot regarding corsets, I have two main focuses. The first is regarding corset patterns. I am hoping to develop a corset pattern and thus would like to be able to have as many corset patterns to base it off of as I can. While any corset pattern works, I am specifically hoping to find Victorian era corset patterns with hip and/or bust gores. From the many companies out there currently selling commercial pattersn, there are few who focus on corsets with gores. I am looking at trying to simplify the process of grading for different sizes, and believe that there might be a way to accomplish this with gored patterns. So if any of you have or know of patterns that I can get, please direct me in that direction! (Remember copyright laws and direct me to where I can find things, rather than just copy and paste.) Second, the little research I've done so far indicates that during the Victorian eras, there were many corset patterns that used gores - yet many of the current commercial patterns focus on those without. Is there a reason for this that anyone might be aware of? Is it easier to fit without gores? Are gored patterns more difficult to make up? Any help in this direction is also a huge plus! Please don't shy away, the more I can accumulate, the better my final pattern shall be once it is ready! Thanks in advance! Michael Deibert ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Great Trip!!!
This is all great information, Penny. It sounds as if you had a wonderful trip. My brother-in-law was working in Biloxi in one of the riverboat gambling house/theaters on the coast before Katrina. He managed to get his wife and newborn daughter out of the state just in time. When he went back to see if they could salvage any of their things from their first floor apartment, he found his place of business in the middle of the freeway and a high water mark a few inches below the ceiling of his apartment. Very little was saveable. This certainly wasn't historic stuff. I hope Biloxi's museum can recover. LynnD On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 2:41 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: New Orleans: I am back from Mardi Gras! OMG!!! Wait until you see the photos and video! Zulu's costumes were great! I am working on them now. I asked one of the Zulu paraders to stop so that I could photograph him. Got the photo and he gave me the most treasured item of Mardi Gras...the golden coconut! I also got to see Pete Fountain and the cast of HBO's series Treme...Steve Zahn is as crazy as on the show. All the cast was on the float. I was so excited to see Pete Fountain. I grew up hearing his music. I did get a close-up view of the Comus Queen. I watched on TV the toast of Comus and Rex and their trains were so plain in comparison to Mobile's MG royalty. Mobile: I got lots of photos of Joe Cain's Merry Widows. There is a lot of history behind the story. The Widows were so thrilled that someone from Virginia came to photograph them. One of the widows, my favorite, was wearing a bustle dress. After the funeral, a man went down on one knee and she pulled up her skirt and he took off her garter. She also smoked a large cigar. What a ham! The Merry Widows wore large Edwardian, Merry Widows style. Their prize throw was a cup with their signature trinkets, emblem necklace, doubloons, and a garter. Guess who gave it to me...Mrs. Bustle. They also give out black silk roses...I got a rose from each widow and wove them into a wreath for my head.. The Widows were a true story! Nine widows showed up at the real Joe Cain funeral. The Widows always started the Joe Cain Mardi Gras parade in their special float. My sister noticed some ladies stationed in front of their float--all dressed in nice, some sexy red dresses. I flashed my press pass to investigate who they were and photograph them. Six years ago these ladies showed up at the parade all wearing red. They call themselves Joe Cain's Mistresses. They saw my black rose wreath and said, You need some red in that! They gave me some red roses for the wreath. I hand carried the wreath everywhere, even on the airplane. While in Mobile, I took more photos at the Mobile Carnival Museum. After a big search for the location of the local history archive library, we found it with two hours to spare. I am researching descriptions of the kings and queens costumes back to the 1920s. So much thought was put into each train to reflect their family history, personalities, hobbies, religions, etc. We did pull newspaper articles with the descriptions for two years. A BIG bonus was an article about a designer who created 25 robes/trains for 25 Kings queens from 1909-1950s. She made all of the trains with a treadle sewing machine. I will be back in Mobile late May through mid-June for my son's wedding. I hope that I time to pull more research. I did find out that the museum's lower floor was flooded during Hurricane Katrina. They lost some of their 1960s kings queens regalia. I pray that we can find our master copy of the video were shot in 1999 with these costumes. It has to be somewhere in our house. We have been tearing the house apart to find it. I did photograph a 1961 Queen train crown this visit. Sadly, Biloxi's Mardi Gras Museum is still not open. They are working on the historic mansion that housed the collection. The museum was under 20 ft. of water during Hurricane Katrina. Their costumes were sent to Jackson, Mississippi to try to restore them. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How to cover your head tutorial? Lost link - help.
could it have been the photographs that Kimiko took of the Tudor Tailor class 2-3 years ago? i don't have the link but that's what came to mind first for me. Good luck. LynnD On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! One of you wonderful people out there has a tutorial on how to tie fabric on your head, and your use of veils. It is a vertical series of Photos of said authorI can' find the link - I want to share it with a class. Thanks! Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Altered Couture Review
Fran, thank you for the review. I've looked through the magazine several times and, although the ideas are great, instructions are minimal and the finished item is too busy for me too. But it is an inspirational magazine; one doesn't have to do it exactly as the editors suggest, as you said. LynnD On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: After considering it for some time, I bought all the back issues of Altered Couture that are still in stock, plus a one-year subscription. My comments: This magazine is not for people who have a few boring or half-worn items in the closet they want to revive. It's for people who compulsively haunt thrift stores and discount clothing stores for really interesting garments and trimmings, and keep a big stock on hand till they decide how to combine a number of items into one garment. The overall taste displayed in the magazine is extremely elaborate. Even though I am fond of highly decorated Victorian and Edwardian clothes, I find looking through several issues in one session to be visually exhausting. The magazine is inspiration oriented, rather than project oriented. There are a few examples of decorated T-shirts, jeans, and slips---garments most people have around or can easily buy. (Although, I really like a lot of the vintage slip examples, but don't know where to buy a large supply of rayon vintage slips in good condition and for a low price. Any suggestions? I did a big eBay search and most of the good slips there were not that cheap.) However, most of the garments used are so unique that it is unlikely you can precisely duplicate the projects. Probably for this reason, the instructions are minimal. You need a basic knowledge of sewing, and in many cases, dyeing, to do most of these projects. The focus is primarily art. Whether it's wearable depends largely on your taste and lifestyle. However, you will not be either going to work or taking out the garbage in most of these outfits. I suspect some of the garments are not very durable, because the originals used to make them look to be in poor condition. I do not think materials in poor condition are worth much effort, and the massive quantity of trimmings heaped onto some of them will drag on the material. I do not like garments with a lot of raw edges; finished seams and hems are much more durable. Also, I suspect the garments dyed with acrylic paints, and the shoes rendered very stiff with coverings, will not clean or last well. The bottom line is, if I am going to put a lot of effort into reconstructing something, I want it to last. All that said, there are some very interesting ideas in this magazine. The editors don't boil them down into basic points. Once you have the idea of a pretty slip dyed, and then elaborately decorated with lots of different laces and fabric flowers, you have the idea. Once you have the idea of elaborate decorations in subtle variations of the same color, again, you have the idea. I do like the Altered Couture magazine. I really hate cutting up books or magazines, but in this case I am cutting out the pages with ideas I like, from each issue, and putting them in a binder. I just find the magazines intimidatingly busy and colorful to look through all the way. I am not sure I will renew my subscription once it runs out, but I now have a lot of interesting pictures for future reference. Fran Lavolta Press Books on historic and vintage clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] not ancient hist. costume...
HOLD ON! I bought that book in 1972; it sits with all my other costume books. At the time it was very cool and taught how to sew alternative lifestyle clothing - recycle, reuse. Sound familiar? It was a great introduction to a couple of my friends who were convinced they'd never learn to sew because they didn't want that Chanel look. Very basic instructions, ideas for recycling and repairing clothing - it was a great book for its time. It was a 'hey, even I can do that' sort of book for non-sewers. Yes, I admit that it's very dated, but the basic ideas of how to sew, how to modify or repair or reuse existing clothing were there, in between the 'far out' and the 'heavy' and the 'my old man' comments. It was a more immediate, more personable version of Better Homes and Gardens Sewing Book. Denise, enjoy your little slice of underground living. LynnD On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: Far out! (An expression I learned watching The Flintstones) --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: but soon to be! I recently found a book called The Illustrated Hassle-free Make Your Own Clothes Book by Rosonberg and Weiner published by Bantam. I ordered it sight-unseen, so it's not exactly what I thought it was going to be, but it's proven to be an interesting glimpse into the recent past of clothing/costuming. It was published in 1971 and the introduction is full of hippie phrasing like my old man groovy fairly heavy cat funkiness up-tightness and even the f-bomb. I read the introduction aloud to my mother (who was a 31 year old tailor/seamstress in 1971 but definitely in the Channel and Pearls camp rather than the counter-culture group) and we both thought it was hilarious. We both noted that in just a few more decades most people won't be able to correctly interpret such phrases as he was a fairly heavy cat lol! My mother also reminded me of several older-than-me friends of the family I had admired growing up who were into making mu'umu'u from flowered bed sheets, and using wildly contrasting fabric to insert large wedges into the pant's legs of their jeans. (I was, of course, forbidden to do any such thing!) Will there someday be reinactment groups for the late 60s to 70s? :-) This book may prove to be a valuable reference! Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] not ancient hist. costume...
Probably not too soon. LynnD San Francisco, CA Lincoln High, Class of '69 We're so cool, we're so fine/We're the Class of '69 On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.govwrote: Oh dear! I guess I should hang onto those crocheted minidresses from my high school college years, then. They just might be worth something someday soon. Ginni Sacramento, CA ECHS '68 Laurie Taylor costume...@mazarineblue.com 2/14/11 1:13 PM Oh my, I laughed so hard at the idea of there ever being re-enactment groups for the era of my childhood! I'm having trouble coping with the idea of the 70's, 80's and 90's being 'vintage' and collectible. Still, I wish I had hung on to some pieces from back then. And if we can re-enact the Middle Ages or the Civil War, well...why not? Laurie T. Phoenix -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Land of Oz Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] not ancient hist. costume... but soon to be! I recently found a book called The Illustrated Hassle-free Make Your Own Clothes Book by Rosonberg and Weiner published by Bantam. I ordered it sight-unseen, so it's not exactly what I thought it was going to be, but it's proven to be an interesting glimpse into the recent past of clothing/costuming. It was published in 1971 and the introduction is full of hippie phrasing like my old man groovy fairly heavy cat funkiness up-tightness and even the f-bomb. I read the introduction aloud to my mother (who was a 31 year old tailor/seamstress in 1971 but definitely in the Channel and Pearls camp rather than the counter-culture group) and we both thought it was hilarious. We both noted that in just a few more decades most people won't be able to correctly interpret such phrases as he was a fairly heavy cat lol! My mother also reminded me of several older-than-me friends of the family I had admired growing up who were into making mu'umu'u from flowered bed sheets, and using wildly contrasting fabric to insert large wedges into the pant's legs of their jeans. (I was, of course, forbidden to do any such thing!) Will there someday be reinactment groups for the late 60s to 70s? :-) This book may prove to be a valuable reference! Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] not ancient hist. costume...
No, Lincoln High in San Francisco, built in the 1920s, at the top of the hill that is the Sunset District. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.govwrote: Ahh, but if I lost just a few more pounds I could probably get back into them and wear them for Halloween next year. ;) BTW, is that Lincoln High in Stockton you're referring to? Ginni Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com 2/14/11 1:30 PM Probably not too soon. LynnD San Francisco, CA Lincoln High, Class of '69 We're so cool, we're so fine/We're the Class of '69 On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.gov wrote: Oh dear! I guess I should hang onto those crocheted minidresses from my high school college years, then. They just might be worth something someday soon. Ginni Sacramento, CA ECHS '68 Laurie Taylor costume...@mazarineblue.com 2/14/11 1:13 PM Oh my, I laughed so hard at the idea of there ever being re-enactment groups for the era of my childhood! I'm having trouble coping with the idea of the 70's, 80's and 90's being 'vintage' and collectible. Still, I wish I had hung on to some pieces from back then. And if we can re-enact the Middle Ages or the Civil War, well...why not? Laurie T. Phoenix -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Land of Oz Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 1:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] not ancient hist. costume... but soon to be! I recently found a book called The Illustrated Hassle-free Make Your Own Clothes Book by Rosonberg and Weiner published by Bantam. I ordered it sight-unseen, so it's not exactly what I thought it was going to be, but it's proven to be an interesting glimpse into the recent past of clothing/costuming. It was published in 1971 and the introduction is full of hippie phrasing like my old man groovy fairly heavy cat funkiness up-tightness and even the f-bomb. I read the introduction aloud to my mother (who was a 31 year old tailor/seamstress in 1971 but definitely in the Channel and Pearls camp rather than the counter-culture group) and we both thought it was hilarious. We both noted that in just a few more decades most people won't be able to correctly interpret such phrases as he was a fairly heavy cat lol! My mother also reminded me of several older-than-me friends of the family I had admired growing up who were into making mu'umu'u from flowered bed sheets, and using wildly contrasting fabric to insert large wedges into the pant's legs of their jeans. (I was, of course, forbidden to do any such thing!) Will there someday be reinactment groups for the late 60s to 70s? :-) This book may prove to be a valuable reference! Denise B Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Your family and costuming genes
My husband's family all were in school plays as kids; they also entertained the family by putting on skits, making costumes out of anything that was to hand. One sister sewed but the other didn't until recently. Their mom was always supportive and helped sew costumes for the cast past high school into their community theater stuff. She didn't act until the 1970s and was in an adult singing group that put on plays in their small community with the kids from the school district and the adults. He grew up in costumes and joined the Northern California Renaissance Faire at 16 and the Dickens Fair that same year; at 50 he's still participating in a Ren Fair and the Dickens Fair. My mom sewed from the time she was in high school and wanted nice clothes her divorced mom couldn't afford to buy. As children my sister and I (she didn't sew for the boys except for Halloween) had beautiful clothes year round. She taught me to sew in a sneeky way. I was too young to sew but I could help pull out the pins after she sewed a seam. I could pick up the pins she dropped. I could help sew this button or do this hem. Then I was able to pin pieces together, then sew straight seams, but the sewing was too hard for me because I was too still little. She hooked me at an early age. Before I knew it, I was sewing. Mom hasn't sewn in years, but she got both of her daughters interested, me more than my sister. She always used Vogue patterns and taught us the best techniques. I got lazy and forgot much of what she taught me in the 70s making quick skirts and blouses for college, but relearned them later. I joined the NorCal Ren Faire and Dickens Fair in 1977 my husband and I met there a few years later) and have made costumes for those venues for for my husband and myself for years and years. Our children were raised at the Ren Fair since the S.F earthquake put an end to the Dickens Fair for many years. There was always a costume box full of costume bits and pieces not connected to any fairs, with fabrics, belts, ties, capes and hats for them to play with any time they wanted to. The box has gone to my niece, except for a piece each girl kept for sentimental reasons. My older daughter did not get the gene; she is done with costuming except for Halloween, when she invents wonderful costumes that take a good month to build (the bathroom sink was one of my favorites) and the younger daughter wears costumes any time she wants. The force is strong in that one; she got a double dose of the costumers gene. She acted in high school and has continued acting at the Dickens Fair and in community theater. She doesn't sew but she does appreciate the costumes I've made over the years. Some of her favorite clothes have been costumes I made for her. I think she will be in costumes until she dies. LynnD Quoting penn...@costumegallery.com: I was re-reading Margo's post and it got me to thinking...How many of our family members are enjoying costuming since we became a member of h-costume? Or maybe inherited the costuming gene? If so what kind of costuming? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Thank you and 1940s Halo Hat Question
Can you show us what you're talking about? I study hats and don't recognize the term. LynnD On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: Thank you to everyone for making our websites anniversary very special. I truly appreciate all your kind comments. Question: I've been watching a lot of 1940s films and keep seeing women wearing halo hats. It seems to have been fashionable for a while and kept getting large and larger. I also have a nice collection of bridal photos with halo hats from the 40s. What or who started this fashion craze? Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
I've made the LM corset, both styles, six time in total. They all went together easily, the instructions are clear and they fit well. The only thing that isn't clear s where the boning goes: on every seam and in between if you're a large size. The problem with all corset patterns is that they need to be fitted correctly before you even get to the sewing of them. Make a muslin! LynnD On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM, penhal...@juno.com penhal...@juno.comwrote: I have used the Laughing Moon pattern and found it to be a very good pattern. It is easy to make (comparatively speaking) and the instructions are clear. I know other people who have used it and heard nothing but good things about it from them. KarenSeamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d2791785a9daae6a9st01duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eek, quick opinion pls...
You might want to check with B. Black Sons in L.A. for the Arno canvas. I am certain they have the sew-in but I'm not sure about the fusible type. They'll ship anywhere. LynnD On 12/29/10, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: Me, too. I already miss doing my annual order from GH. I got the Pellon brand hair canvas from Joann's online store. Even the superstores dont carry it. I'd prefer Arno's Acro fusible canvas, but J's doesnt carry it AFAICT. I'm also fond of Tailor's Pride, a very good sew-in one that's hard to find. Happy New Year, Katy! --cin On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Cin, Where do you buy your hair cloth? I used to get it from greenberg and Hammer, I'm so sad they are gone. Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Silk ribbon embroidery supplies
Fran, I'd suggest Hedgehog Handworks in the L.A. area. http://www.hedgehoghandworks.com/catalog/fibers_ribbon.php They are very helpful and knowledgeable about most handworks, especially silk ribbon embroidery. LynND On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.comwrote: What is the best place online to buy silk ribbon in a wide range of colors for embroidery? Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Piping in CW era Bodices
Elizabeth, You make some excellent points. I had already planned to have a red (we're talking turkey red, not a bright cherry red) box pleated ruffle down the CF, the cuff and (a smaller one) at the neck. That may be enough contrast; however, I really want to challenge myself with correctly making the double piping at the waist edge. It may end up that I double pipe with the fashion fabric; it depends on whether the originally-planned contrast seems to be enough red to spice up my predominately toast and brown pattern. The dress will be an English woman's dress, not American, and I know that there were some differences in fashion styles. (And, since I always wear an apron tied around my waist, very few people will ever see the contrast piping once I'm dressed. It will be something *I* know about my dress - like using one real pearl amongst the good fakes in my Renaissance court outfit.) Elizabeth, thank you for your input; I know your focus and have often appreciated and sent others to your website for how-tos and to see how it looks when it's Done Right. I will keep your message in my references for when my dress absolutely, positively needs to be perfectly authentic. For my theatrical focus, I will still keep my options open until the dress is more complete, maybe by next Christmas time. LynnD On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Elizabeth Clark elizabethstewartcl...@hotmail.com wrote: If your costuming goal is to have a garment that reflects overall norms for the mid-century, then please do use self-fabric piping or corded piping on cotton print dresses. It is *by far* the most typical. Mrs Lincoln's gown is atypical, even for a high-fashion dress, and should not be used as documentation for contrast piping on a cotton print dress. That doesn't mean, however, that you lose the opportunity to add color contrast. Pick up the red with covered buttons (perhaps do little ones, set in close groups of three... that's one treatment I've seen on a print dress, and it's very effective), add flat bands of red to a cuff (perhaps with more buttons), and/or add a belt with a red rosette at the closure. Or, add a red ribbon bow at your neckline instead of a brooch. There are lots of ways to pull up that red that would be quite normal and typical for a cotton print (or wool or silk print) dress, so you'd be both individually stylish *and* consistent with decorative dress details for the period. (Of course, if you have a different costuming goal, don't worry about it! Do as you like! Not every use calls for an outfit that stays fully consistent with the period.) Regards, Elizabeth Clark The Sewing Academy Main Site The Sewing Academy Historic Clothing Tech Support Forum ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] piping on Civil War era dresses
Lisa, The photos of the double piping were in the book by Jennifer Rosbrugh of Cloak Corset Moder Sewing Techniques for Historical Clothing Construction, 2nd Edition. This is one of the ebooks Cloak Corset offers. It has a lot of basic information but some real jewels are in there too. LynnD On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Lisa A Ashton lis...@juno.com wrote: I went ahead and used a very spring green for piping on fabric that was a navy blue with very small white and green flower patterns. It was a ctually quite difficult and took me to 3 separate stores to find the correct green that had enough yellow in it, but it was a great match and looks really nice, since there is very little ornamentation. But the little photo of Mrs. Lincloln's dress will become part of my documentation for my dress with the contrasting piping. The double piping sounds really intriguing, I would loveto see a photo or reference for it. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:11:24 -0800 Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com writes: I have seen pictures of evening bodices double-piped, once with the fashion fabric and once with a contrast but, as I recall it was only at the waist edge. I'm disappointed because I really wanted to pipe an entire cotton dress with a turkey red that matched exactly the little bit of red in my pattern. I'm ging to do it anyway at the waist, even for my cotton day dress. The not-piping at the back curved seam is in the Laughing Moon Mercantile 1860s dress. The tuck is on the outside and actually helps with fitting the back. It's a very pretty addition to an otherwise plain back. LynnD On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Lisa Ashton lis...@juno.com wrote: Thank you thank thank y ou! This is so awesome and it is EXACTLY the affirmation I Was looking for. Ive never seen where they piped the front darts, but it IS quite attractive, and I may well try it on my next go-around with this pattern of dress. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A -- Original Message -- From: Laura Rubin rubin.lau...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] piping on Civil War era dresses Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:27:14 -0800 The National Museum of American History has one of Mrs. Lincoln's dresses that is a heavy purple velvet piped along every seam with white satin piping. It's a rather eccentric style! Even the front darts are piped! I'm led to believe that the dressmaker was rather unconventional as well, but was Mrs. L's favorite. You can see a tiny picture of it here: http://americanhistory.si.edu/exhibitions/small_exhibition.cfm?key=1267e xkey=696pagekey=710 -Laura Message: 13 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 06:26:12 -0500 From: Lisa A Ashton lis...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] piping on Civil War era dresses Message-ID: 20101213.075512.5052.168.lis...@juno.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know that dresses from this era (in America) were piped, and almost all self-piped, around the armscyes, and the back seams, but does anyone have a reference or a photo showing a solid piping with a print dress (or even anything refering to contrasting piping, for example, black piping on a lighter colored dress bodice)? Yours in costuming, Lisa A ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eek, quick opinion pls...
I've hard fabulous stuff about the Laughing Moon patterns from a friend who made the frock coat for a very tall, thin man. It fit perfectly and went together easily. Unfortunately no personal experience. LynnD On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Kimiko Small sstormwa...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you checked out the GBACG Great Pattern Review for those patterns? http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/index.html I own the Laughing Moon pattern based on other folks' reviews, but haven't made it up yet so no personal review. Don't know about the others. Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ From: Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org To: h-costume-indra.com Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 2:56:35 PM Subject: [h-cost] eek, quick opinion pls... Greatly appreciated, any responses today, Thursday... Chimene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] piping on Civil War era dresses
I have seen pictures of evening bodices double-piped, once with the fashion fabric and once with a contrast but, as I recall it was only at the waist edge. I'm disappointed because I really wanted to pipe an entire cotton dress with a turkey red that matched exactly the little bit of red in my pattern. I'm ging to do it anyway at the waist, even for my cotton day dress. The not-piping at the back curved seam is in the Laughing Moon Mercantile 1860s dress. The tuck is on the outside and actually helps with fitting the back. It's a very pretty addition to an otherwise plain back. LynnD On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Lisa Ashton lis...@juno.com wrote: Thank you thank thank y ou! This is so awesome and it is EXACTLY the affirmation I Was looking for. Ive never seen where they piped the front darts, but it IS quite attractive, and I may well try it on my next go-around with this pattern of dress. Yours in cosutming, Lisa A -- Original Message -- From: Laura Rubin rubin.lau...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] piping on Civil War era dresses Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:27:14 -0800 The National Museum of American History has one of Mrs. Lincoln's dresses that is a heavy purple velvet piped along every seam with white satin piping. It's a rather eccentric style! Even the front darts are piped! I'm led to believe that the dressmaker was rather unconventional as well, but was Mrs. L's favorite. You can see a tiny picture of it here: http://americanhistory.si.edu/exhibitions/small_exhibition.cfm?key=1267exkey=696pagekey=710 -Laura Message: 13 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 06:26:12 -0500 From: Lisa A Ashton lis...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] piping on Civil War era dresses Message-ID: 20101213.075512.5052.168.lis...@juno.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know that dresses from this era (in America) were piped, and almost all self-piped, around the armscyes, and the back seams, but does anyone have a reference or a photo showing a solid piping with a print dress (or even anything refering to contrasting piping, for example, black piping on a lighter colored dress bodice)? Yours in costuming, Lisa A ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing today?
I've been wearing cheap gloves with the finger tips cut off in my office for the past week because of the cold. My office doesn't have much heat and it's been real work just to type on my computer. I've been finding excuses to get up and walk around the building just to get my blood circulating. thank goodness for mittens/mitts/fingerless mittens, whatever we call them! LynnD On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Ann, I don't think there's any differentiation in the mitts category. Though fingerless handwear in general seems to be mittens OR mitts. But it all depends on what century and what decade of the century. Makes me want to take my mitts tomorrow to work at the printing museum. Sometimes equipment rooms are downright chilly, especially if they don't boast a Linotype in residence! == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:16 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/3/2010 4:39:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, aqua...@patriot.net writes: What is the item called when the fingers are also differentiated? Usually I see them ending just before the knuckle, but I'm thinking about making some that would only have an open fingertip. I'm sure I could just adapt a glove pattern for that, but I'm just curious if there is a name for it. I believe they are also mitts, but not fingerless. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Alice Cooper Photos
I want to talk to his milliner! LynnD On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:15 AM, AVCHASE achasedes...@peoplepc.com wrote: Penny, just wonderful. What a dramatic site! Audy in the high boonies of Central Texas PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] new, modern Sherlock Holmes
It's being shown in the US on PBS as Masterpiece Mystery. LynnD On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Julie jtkn...@jtknits.cts.com wrote: A new Sherlock?!! I'm a lifelong fan. Is it only in the UK? Where/when/details for U.S. please! Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Source for Hat Blanks
You might check Hats by Leko, although I don't remember their website or their prices. I haven't purchased from them for a while. LynnD On 8/21/10, Linda Rice vm...@cox.net wrote: Off the 'top of my head' (hahaha) www.18cnewenglandlife.org/18cnel/Merchants.htm has a list of possibilities, including Dirty Billy's Hats. I got my heavy black felt hat from Steve Pano of Ranger Reproductions and can easily recommend him. He does not, however, have a website. His other contact info can be found on the above site. There is always Jas Townsend and Historic Enterprises for a look-see: www.jas-townsend.com/ www.historicenterprises.com HTH- ::Linda:: -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Hoover Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:51 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Source for Hat Blanks I am in need of several black felt, round, wide brim hat blanks of decent quality (so they will last the abuse of theatre work), but that cost in the $20 range. Does any one know of a resource? I have already tried Smoke and Fire. They are out of stock and having trouble with their supplier. Thanks, Kathy Hoover ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume