Re: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)
Now I feel like a total beeyotch - I have Rexford's book after drooling all over a university copy! (mopped it up with a tissue as fair as I was able) would recommend it to anyone and everyone. Still - I'm sure that she's learned reams and realms in the ten for fifteen years since she worked on that collection and worked on her book. She might even be the first to admit it. I'm sure we can all think of a topic that we dived into and totally overturned our original perceptions after a few years research. give her mega-credit because her book is first-rate and she did heaps of research - and it's an enjoyable read. Makes the angel in the house and protective attitude towards American woman attitude much more understandable - from their perspective - almost enlightened. At the same time it seems strange that she would choose to try to pin the term sacque on what seems to be usually described as a garden-variety shirt. But perhaps she was trying to make her mark - Rexford describes these garments as a sacque yadda, yadda - sort of like that paper on shortgowns, versus bedgowns versus jackets, etc. I will forgive her anything, short of international terrorism, for her book. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa (or words to that effect.) I love Nancy Rexford and her research. Sheridan Alder From: WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:51:30 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress) Not only that, but the actual working space was...well, horrible. Dirty, poorly lit, and very (very) crowded -- not quite attic space, but very close. It's slightly better now. The ladies have since cleared out a tiny back room, tearing down filthy tattered 1840's wallpaper (and saving as much as they could) so they could scrub and paint. It is now our clean space and even tinier because we just assembled shelving in there for our new storage boxes. Everything else is still very crowded and precariously hung on leaning donated coat racks -- sacques and mens' shirts are still on wire hangers. Nothing was done with the collection for 15 years after she cataloged as much as she could reach, and a lot of it was jammed into that tiny (filthy) room until very recently. Have I ever posted a link? www.townsendhistoricalsociety.org ...a little more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_Homestead ...and we're on TV! www.tv.com/shows/ghost-hunters/ghostly-evidence-1395703 A film crew showed up to record our ghostly happenings a few months ago. Has anyone seen the this episode of Ghost Hunters? Maybe... 150 years ago (?) a grieving mother, mourning the death of her daughter, hanged herself off the top of the staircase. We all grip onto that post when we climb upstairs (steps are very steep). It's a sad story, and I hope that poor mother has found peace. Dede --- On Thu, 9/15/11, annbw...@aol.com annbw...@aol.com wrote: Oh, my goodness, she is one of THE authorities. Of course, all of us costume historians have learned a great deal in the last 15 years and, as you point out, she was faced with an enormous task. She might very well have different readings on some of these things now herself. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)
Excuse me if someone else has already thrown out this suggestion, but my impression is simple - the 1995 cataloguer just plain wasn't knowledgeable about historical clothing! The VCR was a good old antique video recording - probably lost to posterity - and possible a good thing. They probably hired someone out of a community college program or even a friend who needed a job. Then they looked at a couple of local public library books (and some public libraries have decent costume sections and other are pathetic) and jumped to that conclusion. I'm not dumping on them - they did the best they could with what they had and for what they were paid. For example, in a heritage review of our neighbourhood, a student once labelled our home as a saltbox. They had little idea of what a real saltbox looked like. The saltbox addition was an incomplete 1980's addition - besides the fact that real saltboxes are rare in Canada. I could go on and on about museums or historic houses we've visited that have misidentified items. Closer to costume, my husband is on a special assignment (essentially curatorial) with Parks Canada. It's probably the equivalent of the U.S. National Parks Service?? Reviewing the Parks Canada collections and records, he's full of stories of misidentification and incomplete records of original artefacts and donors, etc. etc. On the other hand he's very knowledgable about militaria, as well as material culture in general, so he's having the time of his life examining and properly identifying artifacts. I'm so jealous I could puke ;-) The frightening thing is the number of people with 30+ years of experience who are going to retire and be replaced by young people who have no eye and no experience or knowledge. But that's how it goes. You have to start somewhere. Right now, a person with half a clue needs to look at those items with a fresh eye. There are a variety of titles on men's shirts out there - but I have to work tomorrow! Sheridan Alder From: WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:29:50 AM Subject: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress) Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving on to the next pile -- stacks and stacks of shirt-like garments with no closures (other than a few with ties at the neck). We hired a woman in 1995 to start pulling clothing literally out of garbage bags and start cataloging. (Sadly, we still have pieces from 1809 still in garbage bags -- yes, the black plastic kind.) She called these shirt-like garments sacques and this is want she wrote about them... ...I would like someone after me to write the word sacque which is what we're going to use for the generic term. A sacque is a garment which hangs from the shoulder down without interruption, without darts, without a waist seam, so a man's sacque coat is one that was not cut in at the waist. And that seems to be a generic form for this style if garment, no matter how it's being used, but as I said before and you got on the VCR I think, these can be used as a working garment with a skirt, held in place with an apron. They can be used as a short nightgown for hot weather and when somebody is ill and is using a bedpan. They can be used over your dress when you're doing your hair and that's probably about it. Oh, yes, and the other thing is for maternity, when it's an expandable top for when you're pregnant and obviously can be used for nursing as well. And nobody has as many as you have. We have attempted to locate information about this type of garment, but clearly we're looking in the wrong places because we're coming up empty. We can find saques certainly but they don't look like ours. Any ideas? Dede O'Hair ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] FYI -Re: New RMS Titanic and Fashion week: Images Online August 2011
Subject: New RMS Titanic and Fashion week: Images Online August 2011 www.bl.uk August 2011 Images Online Dear Sheridan, Welcome to the August edition of the new look Images Online newsletter. This month we are featuring images from our RMS Titanic collection as well as a beautiful selection of illustrations, inspired by London Fashion Week, by the French Illustrator, George Barbier. Browse and buy our images What's in this issue: New Titanic Collection London Fashion Week New Images Online Website Image Calendar New RMS Titanic Collection Setting sail from Southampton Harbour on the 10 April 1912, the Titanic represented the pinnacle of maritime technology of the day. It was said that as far as it was possible to do so, the Titanic had been designed to be unsinkable and while also measuring in at 270 metres in length the ship was certainly a magnificent sight. But on the 14 April 1912 the Titanic struck an iceberg and sunk in the early hours of the 15 April. Approximately 1,500 people lost their lives in the disaster. In the run-up to the 100 year anniversary of the launch and sinking of the RMS Titanic, the British Library has a new collection of incredible images available to view and licence on our Images Online website. The collection includes spectacular shots of the ship as well as SOS notes. View Images London Fashion Week To celebrate London Fashion Week (16 - 21 September), The British Library has a fantastic selection of fashion images including illustrations by the great French illustrator, George Barbier. All of these are available on the Images Online website. View Images New Images Online Website Image Calendar This is just to remind everybody that Images Online have a new website, packed with features : * Improved Searching * PLUS Pricing * Image Flexibility * New Image Alerts On the Images Online website we have a Historic Images Calendar. The Calendar, featuring images commemorating historical events is there to help you find that telling image for notable events and anniversaries. Click on the link below to go to the calendar and discover fascinating facts about significant events, births and deaths from around the world . View Images View Images Follow us on Twitter! Images Online has a new facebook page ! Discover the world's knowledge www.bl.uk The British Library respects your privacy and only sends emails about or services to registered customers and subscribers to our email newsletters. To unsubscribe from this newsletter, follow this link Any suggestions or comments about this newsletter? Copyright (c) The British Library Board The British Library, 96 Euston Road, London, NW1 2DB ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dating a couple garments
Late 70's? I have one in high school. Sheridan Alder --- On Fri, 2/12/10, Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net wrote: From: Sylvia Rognstad syl...@ntw.net Subject: [h-cost] Dating a couple garments To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Received: Friday, February 12, 2010, 3:47 PM Does anyone recall when dolman sleeved swing jackets were popular? Was it the 80s or the 90s? I'm trying to sell some old clothes and they have to be at least 20 years old to put them up on etsy in the vintage section. I can send photos if I can figure out how to do so on this list.  Sylvia Rognstad Costume/clothing design construction Alterations home dec http://www.ezzyworld.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Vikings and Canada and linen and China - oh my!
I think that this poster is getting Canada and China confused! ;-) According to this: http://www.ontariohempalliance.org/info/BastFibreinChina.pdf Today, China has emerged as the clear leader in the bast fibre textile processing industry for flax/linen, hemp and ramie, with flax as a major pillar of the Chinese textile industry. The Chinese have currently about 65-75,000 ha of flax fibre and 20,000 ha of hemp fibre field production. The predominant and largest end use of bast fibres in China is for textile with some new developments emerging in application to paper production. A Canuck, Sheridan the elder (who wishes we were big linen producers because the lovely stuff is so pricey here!) From: Elena House exst...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:37:26 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland? On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net wrote: However, once they learned to weave from the Vikings, who knows what they might have created? Look what the Navajo did once they got some sheep. Right now, Canada is by far the biggest producer and exporter of flax, so I bet that a Vinland industry would have taken off! Canada also produces a good deal of hemp, so between the two I think it's safe to guess that my Vinland fashionistas would have worn at least some linen. I don't think it would have taken more than a couple of centuries for sheep to spread across the Americas. I have a feeling they would have been a big hit with the locals, once all the technical aspects had been passed along. The Norse managed to travel pretty far in the other hemisphere, both by water and by land--I wonder how far they might go, to trade in the Americas? It wouldn't shock me to see some trade with South American indigenous people. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Underwear Review of Arnold vol 4
I believe there's a number of librarians on this list, like myself. Did anyone else note the first image of the be-spectacled models clutching red books matching their scarlet bras? Naughty librarians! Note to self - must buy red bra. Second note to self - don't forget to button up shirt before going to work, though. Sheridan Alder http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7689554.stm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Another Historical Wedding Question
Being Scottish isn't like having venereal disease - there's a limit to how far you can take it with you! A Canadian, or someone living in Canada, would be covered by Canadian laws regarding marriage, and someone in London, England (as opposed to London, Ontario) would is residing in Britain and is covered by British law. It wouldn't matter a fiddler's fornication if you were Scottish or Lebanese, as I understand it. The late 19th century is pretty modern in my opinion - they're getting pretty tight-assed about marriage. I can't see it being legal or acceptable, but if it's a novel, wellI would recommend checking British AND Canadian law. I have a book on the history of marriage in Canada, and came across no mention on marriage by correspondence. Sheridan Alder Disciplining poor grammar, spelling and logic since 2007 - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:24:30 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: Another Historical Wedding Question In a message dated 12/20/2007 1:01:01 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:06:46 -0700 From: costumeraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] Another Historical Wedding Question To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=windows-1250 Try this link at Wikipedia - it gives a wee bit more info on the Marriage by Correspondence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nullity_(conflict) Laurie T. OOH! That's a bit better. But would it apply in the late 1800's and if both people were Scottish, but one lived in London and the other in Toronto? Henry Osier Chief Spy Costume-Con 28 in Milwaukee in 2010 www.CC28.org View the latest Intell: http://agent-milw.livejournal.com/ Questions?: http://community.livejournal.com/costume_con_28/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account. http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Victorian costume collection
Hi: Kathy, what size are the gowns and what prices are you thinking? I'm sorta interested in either the Victorian or 18th century gowns, even though I probably shouldn't be buying ANYTHING right now. I'm a size 14 for the forseeable future, although I have fantasies of dieting, but I'm 5'9. Sheridan - Original Message From: Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:31:16 AM Subject: [h-cost] Re: Victorian costume collection Where are you? Sylvia I am about an hour's drive west of Toronto, Ontario. But I'm happy to ship to anywhere in the world. :-) I just realised that my soon-to-be ex had uploaded all of my portfolio to his Picasa account, thinking I needed a copy. I had them in my drive, but this is a convenient mistake: http://picasaweb.google.com/49victor/KathySCostuming It's not sorted yet, and I don't currently have access to the account to do any sorting. Any men's wear, children's wear or anything pre-1600 is not for sale. Anything else I will consider. Although I would really like to keep my hoop dress, the right price will sell it. I can always make another one. I am so sorry to hear that. Where do you live? I can paint/sew, etc. and would be happy to help. I'm pretty good with tools, too. Comes from years as a theatre tech. For the costumes: This was posted on Tribe Lost Colony buildings destroyed in fire snip Sharon Hm I wonder if I called to offer my collection, we could come to an arrangement. Thanks for the offer. If you were anywhere near me, I'd have you here in a heartbeat. :-) I have so much to do, all little annoying things, some need professionals. My SIL is a lighting engineer and interior designer that used to stage houses for realtors, so as far as that goes, I have a good consultant. We are having a grand time spending his money to fix the house he no longer lives in. ;-) Have you heard the one about the woman whose husband and new girlfriend/wife wanted to move into her home, which she couldn't afford now he had dumped her? She put fresh shrimp in the hollow curtain rods and moved out. *L* Yes, I have heard it. I thought about pushing a chunk of roadkill into the mattress, but I'd have to find a way of opening a seam, then replacing it without being noticeable. I just thought my perfume would be nauseating enough to him that he won't sleep well. This is the stuff that he said not long ago he liked because it reminded him of me. And incidentally, my mother bought me so much of it, I could bathe in the lotion and bottles of perfume. I'm just going to spray, smear and powder that damned thing until it reeks, then package it up in plastic, looking like I am being pleasant and efficient. It'll be too late by the time he gets it to his cozy, furnished and convenient little basement apartment that he'll be stuck with it. He can't afford to buy a new one now, anyway. The smell will go away - eventually. Yes, I am evil! Kathy ~who's ex thinks my making comments in an email about cold beds is funny. He didn't see my face when I wrote it~ Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lions head erased gules. It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. Who you are is contained inside, and no one can change that. They can only assist you in denying who you are, but not indelibly reshape you to their own image. Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Good late 1820's patterns -an anyone recommend ?
Greetings everyone: Can anyone recommend a c. 1820's pattern? - quick delivery, fairly accurate, instructions that are not to hard to follow, yadda, yadda. I usually draft my own patterns, but I'm tired of messing around and tweaking designs. The usual story - last minute project idea, etc. Sheridan Alder Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Peach silk for sale?
Hello: I'll probably get my knuckles rapped for trying to flog stuff on the list, but my excuse is that members of h-costume group will probably appreciate it more than anyone else - I have silk I'd like to sell. Some time ago I purchased 10 yards of peach 100% silk because it was a good price at Designer Textiles in Toronto. I've finally admitted to myself that peach isn't really my colour, if I dye it I will ruin it, and I have way, way too much stuff - fabric, projects, etc. already! It's 56 inches wide and has good body - it's not that limp china silk. It's very similar in colour (identical?) to the silk dress on pages 66-67 of Revolution in Fashion: 1715-1815. That's probably why I bought it! While it's not ribbed like that fabric, it does have an asymetrical stripe pattern woven in. I could see it as an 18th c. gown or even a bustle gown - not that it's any of my business how anyone decides to use it! I've even seen a peach Civil War era gown somewhere. I'd sell it for $150 U.S. That would include shipping. Paypal would be good. Let me know if you want pictures. I'm still strugglling to figure out my digital camera, so it would be good practice for me. I also have 10 yards of blue and silver striped silk (narrow stripes) but I have to find it to measure the width. I was thinking Victorian day or evening dress when I bought it. Sheridan Alder Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How clothing style can effect law (RE to OT Baggy)
I'm reminded of coming across a 1940's newspaper clipping that shorts were being banned in some small Ontario town (which shall remain nameless in its shame) in the archives of Fort Malden, Parks Canada, when I was the resource centre specialist there. Laugh, I thought I'd die. That edict didn't have much effect, did it? I'm tired of the baggy pants look too, but recently I met an contemporary (50's) who was wearing alarmingly tight, pencil-leg jeans and had dyed his hair in a ponytail. Not a good look either. Sheridan Alder - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:00:32 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] How clothing style can effect law (RE to OT Baggy) In a message dated 6/19/2007 4:05:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Delcambre is a small town and several town citizens complained about this style of dress Now you know the rest of the story. So if several citizens [I wonder how many] complained, say about churches in town because they were atheists, I'm sure the town council would create a law banning churches, right? The rest of the story sounds just like the 1st part of the storystupid! What did you think I thought had happened? That it was just a whim? It's still pitiful. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] volunteering
Treat it like a real interview. Dress nicely, speak intelligently but politely. If you don't have time to do some background reading, express an interest in learning and being guided. If you tend to be shy, let them know you are interested in improving your communication skills speaking to the public (you'll be surprised - excellent and relevant experience for other jobs, not to mention job interviews!) I'm shocked by the stories I'm heard of the number of people that are interviewed for jobs at historic sites and don't even bother to skim the information pamphlets available in the entrance! Read that and memorize what you can, at least, even while you are waiting for your interview. That might show more horse sense than all the others being interviewed. The trendy thing nowadays is asking applicants to provide an example of a time that you had to deal with a difficult situation, customer, etc. Try to think of something, even if it seems pitiful at the time - like, when my sister tries to pick a fight with me, I just walk away and refuse to fight. A safe response might be, I asked my supervisor for advice to deal with the situation. Try to demonstrate good judgement and common sense and a willingness to follow the guidance of the staff. Don't contradict the permanent staff in front of visitors. Don't use your volunteer position as an opening to grind your own axe - mouth off to the public about your personally held political beliefs, etc. or old cliches about the past. At the same time, a volunteer shouldn't have to tolerate harassment from the public - like sexual harassment from male visitors, for example, or rascist rants. If it's a mediocre site, be prepared to accept and repeat their mouldy-oldy party line about the olden times. Ask a few questions yourself - how many hours they want to to volunteer, what kind of role do volunteers play - cleaning, interpreting, cash, shop, general dogsbody? Will you be in period costume or in their uniform? How many volunteers and how many staff they have? Do they have large events or school programs? Do they have a Friends of group? Who are they funded by - state or local government? Our WWI group volunteer yearly at John McCrae House, the author of In Flanders Fields. At first the site wasn't very interested - shy of reenactors. Now we volunteer every year. I think it helped that no one in our group was an aggressive or wacko reenactor type - we just wanted to help out the site, show off our cool original artefacts and interpret a period / war that was somewhat neglected. We are all pretty moderate, helpful types and in return the staff and regular volunteers provide some great chili! I have a lot of respect for teachers after a day of volunteering - I'm exhausted after talking to visitors all day. I'd do some background reading first. That's a lie - I'm a librarian so I'd do lots of reading! The local public library can probably supply information on the background of that particular site and the family that lived there, general background reading of historical events of that time period, etc. If you Google Harriet Beecher Stowe, for example, I believe there is a full text version of the American Woman's Home (or whatever it was called) online. Know something about domestic arrangements, standards of living and farming. Modestly let them know you prepared for the interview? If you aren't accepted this year, don't take it personally. They probably don't hate you. Maybe they can only accept a few people and one person was just an teensy, weensy bit better in the interview. People respect you when you keep trying. Apply again next year or somewhere else and prepare a little more next time. I'm obviously middle-aged - I'm so full of advice! Sheridan Alder - Original Message From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:54:34 PM Subject: [h-cost] volunteering I'm going Wednesday night to turn in my application to be a volunteer at a local historic site. They do 1860's. Nothing fancy, it's a farm house, but it looks like it could be fun. I've met some of the other ladies and they're nice. Wish me luck. I don't know if they're going to interview me tomorrow or have me come back later, but I'm nervous I'll say something stupid and they won't want me. I got turned away from another volunteer job at a site once because I didn't have any experience 'interpreting'. I'm hoping this one goes better. They seem a lot more low-key. Those of you who do volunteer work at sites, how did you get the 'job'? Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca