Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Beta Dedicated Server Available
holy shit, they gave a warning? From: karlicio...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 23:06:33 +0200 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Beta Dedicated Server Available Thanks for the heads up, it'll be fun. Downloading right now! :-) On 6 August 2010 22:58, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: The beta for Counter-Strike: Source will be coming back online later today. Right now the dedicated server files are available, so if you would like to run a dedicated server please start downloading the bits. The hldsupdatetool game name is 'cssbeta'. A more detailed announced, along with specific changes, will be set live once the client is up. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] [Off topic] Just askin' [MCSMP]
This is defiantly Off topic. but i'm looking for someone who has a dedicated Australian based server that Can host Minecraft (that game on the TF2 blog) Survival Multiplayer.as it stands all hosting is done in between Friends, and has high latency beyond 2 or three people. We've Contacted Hypernia and asked, but they won't until MC reaches full release(its in alpha still). Please note if anyone does decide to do this, that MCSMP is very buggy, and Notch (creator) is still updating it. the Software is here:http://minecraft.net/download/Minecraft_Server.exe the software has the potential to crash itself, and spew errors after running for more then 24 hours without restart. This is only me seeing if anyone here would. I'd be prepared to pay for the server usage. if you disapprove of this thread or aren't interested, simply don't reply least you add to it. Dominic Marciano. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
iphone... HAHAHAHAHAHA. Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:57:38 +0200 From: h...@thenob.de To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released Sent from my prototype iPhone 4GS while at a bar. :D ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Improving the update procedure
OH THE IRONY. From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:01:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Improving the update procedure Remove yourself from the list if you don't want to be clogged with this crap. On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 21:57 -0400, Steve Stifler wrote: You guys are pissing in the wind. Been asking for a better update procedure for years and it ain't happened. Valve don't listen and don't care about the server admins and hosts so stop clogging my inbox with this crap _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update Available
This update appears to have broken lots of custom maps. upon downloading the maps when connecting to the server people receive a CRC error. this is at a lan, just now. From: nielsmei...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:19:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update Available Awesome.. really like the tick100 and fire-rates fix :D Niels Meijer. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Namens Jason Ruymen Verzonden: vrijdag 23 juli 2010 22:56 Aan: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com' Onderwerp: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update Available A required update for Counter-Strike: Source is now available. The specific changes include: - Added Steam Clan Tag support ( Set yours in Options-Multiplayer-Advanced ) - Added new achievement CLAN WARFARE: Win a match of at least 10 players where the entirety of each team is composed of a single clan. - All weapon fire rates now tuned to match their pre-update, tickrate 100 equivalents. (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1368659) - Added automatic server tagging for some server convars ( mp_startmoney, mp_friendlyfire, bot_quota, sv_nostats, sv_allowminmodels ) - Fixed some issues for players who were experiencing stat corruption. - Fixed several server crash exploits. - Fixed server commands sv_disablefreezecam and sv_nowinpanel not working on dedicated servers. - Adjusted some DX9 shaders to look more like their DX8 counterparts, e.g. flashbang effect. - Community Requests: - Fixed entity I/O messages OnPlayerPickup and OnPlayerUse. - Restored UTF-8 support in the console. - Added env_hudhint entity, for use in custom maps (The allplayers flag must be set for the hint to work in Counter-Strike.) - Added client convar sv_hudhint_sound to turn off emit sound for hud hints. - Restored the cl_minmodels client convar. - Added server convar sv_allowminmodels that allows them to prevent clients from using cl_minmodels. - Added a button to Options-Multiplayer that allows players to reset their in-game stats. - Note: Due to the nature of stats corruption, it is not possible to automatically fix all types of stats (such as weapon statistics reflecting usage of the wrong weapon). Players who suspect their stats are incorrect and wish to start fresh may want to use the new stat reset feature. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.851 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/3023 - datum van uitgifte: 07/23/10 08:36:00 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Server lag, one server on one box
Thats insane, how many servers would you normally run on that setup? Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:35:08 -0600 From: zellers.shi...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Server lag, one server on one box So I noticed a few of you people were experiencing server lag. Welll, so am I. I have a 1gbps up/down net speed, with a dual e5620 setup, and I decided to run one, yes one TF2 server on a fresh install of Windows Server 08. Yes, I am getting lag. I am using the FPS boost pluging, running a 2000 max FPS server, which averages at close to 1,700 FPS. I set my rates to be sv_maxcmdrate 0 sv_maxrate 0 sv_maxreplay 2 sv_maxupdaterate 100 sv_mincmdrate 0 sv_minrate 0 sv_minupdaterate 30 Basically, with unlimited computing resources allowed... what are the best rates? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available
i have experienced this as well, i think its either lagor intentional as you did just get smacked by a creeper. Dunno, seeing as its only Clients (and not host) makes me think its lag. Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:00:08 -0400 From: darthni...@darthninja.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available Just wanted to report a very annoying bug to you guys: Bug: Player's camera spins out of control Steps: Load up the parasite level on hard (seems to show up every time on hard, not sure about other settings). Play as a client (this does not happen to the game's host). At some points when attacked, your camera will spin out of control, also preventing you from shooting. Notes: I've been seeing this on listen servers, I have not played on a dedicated one yet. Thanks! -- ¤Ψ[GoR]|Ω|Ďaŗŧh_ÑiñjaΨ¤ http://www.DarthNinja.com http://www.GoRClan.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Excitement! From: jas...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:33:37 -0700 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Here are the specific changes: Server Browser: - Fixed the server browser not saving filter settings properly. Team Fortress 2: - Fixed a speed exploit related to benchmarks. - Fixed Parasite hat not being posed correctly on class loadout panels. - Fixed a level change crash. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available
If you mean the Residential Zone?I have, just KEEP MOVINGBurn and move ona medic can solo that one (almost) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:54:35 -0400 From: darthni...@darthninja.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available Yeah, I tried using asw_camera_shake 0 last night and none of my players had the camera lag, so yay for that. The facehugger level still needs some balancing imo. It's almost impossible to get through on hard, so I'm not sure impossible is even, err, possible. On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Original Skod skods...@gmail.com wrote: This will help you. http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1371124 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: iv seen the spinning on normal as well, cool ammo bug ;) On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: i have experienced this as well, i think its either lagor intentional as you did just get smacked by a creeper. Dunno, seeing as its only Clients (and not host) makes me think its lag. Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:00:08 -0400 From: darthni...@darthninja.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available Just wanted to report a very annoying bug to you guys: Bug: Player's camera spins out of control Steps: Load up the parasite level on hard (seems to show up every time on hard, not sure about other settings). Play as a client (this does not happen to the game's host). At some points when attacked, your camera will spin out of control, also preventing you from shooting. Notes: I've been seeing this on listen servers, I have not played on a dedicated one yet. Thanks! -- ¤Ψ[GoR]|Ω|Ďaŗŧh_ÑiñjaΨ¤ http://www.DarthNinja.com http://www.GoRClan.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Michael Krasnow http://mnkras.com mnk...@gmail.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ¤Ψ[GoR]|Ω|Ďaŗŧh_ÑiñjaΨ¤ http://www.DarthNinja.com http://www.GoRClan.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update
these lag spikes have been causing players to leave our server too. From: mikesti...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:00:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update Great I'm not the only one who is seeing this. Huge lag spikes also big jumps in CPU usage I see the exact same things... Had no issues prior to the last update -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hartland Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 2:37 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Massive TF2 server cpu hike caused by 2010-07-20 update Importance: High We've been seeing a large number of complaints about lag over the last few days for our TF2 servers and upon investigation it seems that the update released yesterday morning has caused a MASSIVE CPU hike for servers. Prior to this update our 95th CPU usage on was 39% on cp_orange_x3_t, since the update this has jumped to 108%, maps seem to be affected to a different degree to all are seeing an very large increase. These figures are normalised for a single core on an Intel L5520 so not a slow machine by any means. Here's a few stats graphs which make it very clear: http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/12609_week-cpu-jump.png http://www.multiplaygameservers.com/dropzone/13295_week-cpu-jump.png This is not a sustainable change, so I hope we can get a fix for this ASAP. Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] sv_benchmark_force_start TF2 speedhack
Tested this, it does as he explained. Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:06:13 + From: harry.h...@harry.lu To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] sv_benchmark_force_start TF2 speedhack sv_benchmark_force_start can be used to behave as a speedhack. How to reproduce: 1) Create a local TF2 server. 2) Type sv_benchmark_force_start in console. 3) Wait ~10 seconds for a few bots to spawn. 4) Disconnect. 5) Join any online server. 6) Once you go above a certain FPS (~66 in my tests), you will run very fast, as if you are speedhacking. To disable this bug after you have enabled it, you must quit and re-launch the TF2 client. This effects both hldslinux and hldswin (as far as I can tell though, it's a client-side bug, and there is no way for the server to fix it without a TF2 client update). I do not know how this works, but I assume it does something weird with the threading (other players will be jerky, as if your connection is lagging). I hope these are the correct lists to send this to? It is not a problem with the actual HLDS as far as I can see, but it would probably be fitting here... Thanks for your time. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] alien swarm released
Was waiting for this From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:36:53 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released I love you. Thanks, Kyle. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Claudio Beretta beretta.clau...@gmail.com wrote: since no announcement mail was made... http://store.steampowered.com/app/630/ HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game alienswarm -dir . ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] alien swarm released
I'm downloading.. at 150kbps...D: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:50:28 -0400 From: mnk...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released your my new favorite person :) but... STEAM is apparently too busy to handle my request On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: Was waiting for this From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:36:53 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released I love you. Thanks, Kyle. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Claudio Beretta beretta.clau...@gmail.com wrote: since no announcement mail was made... http://store.steampowered.com/app/630/ HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game alienswarm -dir . ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Michael Krasnow http://mnkras.com mnk...@gmail.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] alien swarm released
adsl+ 6.5 kms from the Exchange; Australia Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:57:28 -0400 From: mnk...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released :'( need moar bandwidth whats your location? anything is faster than 0kb/s :P On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm downloading.. at 150kbps...D: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:50:28 -0400 From: mnk...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released your my new favorite person :) but... STEAM is apparently too busy to handle my request On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: Was waiting for this From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:36:53 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released I love you. Thanks, Kyle. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Claudio Beretta beretta.clau...@gmail.com wrote: since no announcement mail was made... http://store.steampowered.com/app/630/ HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game alienswarm -dir . ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Michael Krasnow http://mnkras.com mnk...@gmail.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Michael Krasnow http://mnkras.com mnk...@gmail.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available
Your late Sire. From: jas...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:13:49 -0700 Subject: [hlds] Alien Swarm is now available Alien Swarm is now freely available on Steam. The dedicated server is available via the hldsupdatetool as well, using the game name of 'alienswarm'. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] alien swarm released
Speak for yourself k thanks. From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:32:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released Nobody cares how fast you are downloading this, hope this helps. In other news actually related to server administration, Windows dedicated server doesn't seem to be running and there doesn't seem to be any linux binaries. _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] alien swarm released
Excuse me while i play my violin. From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:55:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released I'm surprised more people aren't cranky when people post dumb bullshit like how fast they are downloading things to the list, when a major release hits. Nobody wants to read about how fast your are downloading anything, now or ever. What people do want to discuss is probably the problems anyone is having running the servers for Alien Swarm since there seems to be some issues. You know, server administration related type problems. On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 17:46 -0400, DarthNinja wrote: msleeper's always cranky when his free content has bugs. On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: Speak for yourself k thanks. From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:32:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] alien swarm released Nobody cares how fast you are downloading this, hope this helps. In other news actually related to server administration, Windows dedicated server doesn't seem to be running and there doesn't seem to be any linux binaries. _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Test
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Re: [hlds] HDLS Dedicated server
Or this mailing list. Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 07:45:16 -0700 From: michael.fan...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HDLS Dedicated server Use Google, shit. On Jul 12, 2010 7:43 AM, Sanjay B.R brsanja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lane, you are right, my machine is connected to the internet via the router. I tried your options, but frankly i am not that aware about configuring the router. But the good news is that i finally got it working. here is the solution how i did it. a. I downloaded the tool HldsUpdateTool.exe and installed it in my machine, then i opened the command prompt set the path to the directory where i have installed the HldsUpdateTool. b. Once this was done, i used the following command : D:\HLDS\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game czero -dir D:\HLDS c. This downloaded around 380MB of files related to the Counter Strike Condition Zero game and it also downloaded the HLDS.exe application. d. I started the application and set the network as Internet and started the server successfully. e. I launched the game from the same machine and in my favorites it had already listed the server the hosted, and i was able to join and play the game. f. Interestingly, it still showed my home network IP, i asked my friends to see if they can join the game, they too had got the server listed, and since it was showing my home network IP, they weren't able to join the game. g. I went to the site whatismyip.com to get my external IP and asked my friends to connect to the game using the console method(pressing ~ and using the command connect ip:port) and it worked.. :) But i had also missed the port forwarding which you had mentioned. Thanks for the inputs. -Sanjay ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Sourcetv making an extra slot
You could try Telling them that its Sourcetv, and part of the way server spectator stuff is handled by Source engines.maybe you can get away with it. From: nielsmei...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:06:08 +0200 Subject: Re: [hlds] Sourcetv making an extra slot Yes my host is indeed the problem :) I will try to set it in the server.cfg But what command do I need to use? Just maxplayers 11? Niels Meijer. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Namens Lane Eckley Verzonden: maandag 12 juli 2010 19:57 Aan: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Onderwerp: Re: [hlds] Sourcetv making an extra slot Fix? - That is how it is supposed to work. SourceTV makes one more slot for itself to connect to the server. I am guessing your host only allows you to have a certain slot count and this is causing an issue? Set the server slot count via the server.cfg to one less and you will be set. -Lane -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Niels Meijer Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: [hlds] Sourcetv making an extra slot Hello, im not sure if there already is an answer for this. And sorry if so, and im annoyin you. But my sourcetv makes an extra slot instead of using a normal one... Is there already a fix for this. or some kind of command? Thanks in advance J Niels ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht. Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2998 - datum van uitgifte: 07/12/10 08:36:00 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Creating CS 1.6 SERVER
Also don't pack your email with 3 spaces per line. ~end of Constructive Criticism/Feedback Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:59:57 +0200 From: rikard.brem...@warzone.nu To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Creating CS 1.6 SERVER try remove the clientregistry.blob file in the hlds update tool folder. -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark ComHem AB - http://www.comhem.se Warzone.nu - http://www.warzone.nu Warzone Short Valley rikard.brem...@warzone.nu z...@warzone.nu On 2010-07-11 18:08, Yogesh Rao wrote: Hi, I am trying to create a CS 1.6 server on windows 7(64 bit). I am running into a problem with the HLDS Update Tool. I have installed the tool after downloading from steam site and execute the command as below .. HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game cstrike -dir e:/HLDS Below is the output i get from the command execution ... output: Checking bootstrapper version ... Getting version 42 of Steam HLDS Update Tool No Steam Content Servers available, please try again later I been trying to set this up since last week but unfortunately its the same output that i get... Can anyone please help me with this ? Any pointers on this would be great. Cheers! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Test
got up at 4pm, 55 emails in my HLDS Folder 3 you guys Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:13:06 +0200 From: skods...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Test Justin, would you please be so kind and die...You signed up for the mails, so quit the whining fool - if anyone was spamming it was you bitch. On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com wrote: Go die in a fire for spamming my email inbox.. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Bryn Moslow b...@valvesoftware.com wrote: Hi, I'm a test e-mail. Pay me no mind. I'm just happy to be here. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
http://web.mit.edu/sarina/www/pictures/random/nou.gif From: sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:40:08 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) http://healthx1887.duxipefer.com _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Oh no, i don't care how much you spam, it was just about other people whining. Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:01:23 +0200 From: rikard.brem...@warzone.nu To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) and you complained about us spaming? //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark warzone.nu On 2010-06-29 21:45, Dominic Marciano wrote: http://web.mit.edu/sarina/www/pictures/random/nou.gif From: sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:40:08 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) http://healthx1887.duxipefer.com _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
Quit Whining. From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:42:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released Client issues do not belong on the server administration mailing list. Take it to the Steampowered forums. On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 21:40 +0200, Mark P wrote: how do i turn of motion blur without setting shaders to medium 2010/6/25 Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com Weekly mutation update... go get 'em. Jonah Hirsch --- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
U Mad? From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:50:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released It's not a whine, it's proper utilization of what this list is for. This isn't a client support mailing list. This isn't a herp derp luk wut funne yubtub video i fond!! mailing list. It's a HLDS/SRCDS mailing list. Kind of like the name implies - Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list. What about that phrase says I should post my 'I'm too stupid to operate a computer' client issues! to you? On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 03:46 +0800, Dominic Marciano wrote: Quit Whining. From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:42:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released Client issues do not belong on the server administration mailing list. Take it to the Steampowered forums. On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 21:40 +0200, Mark P wrote: how do i turn of motion blur without setting shaders to medium 2010/6/25 Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com Weekly mutation update... go get 'em. Jonah Hirsch --- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source: Tickrate change: Set to 66, -tickrate removed
Why can't people let other people play how they want? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:28:59 +0200 From: anakin...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source: Tickrate change: Set to 66, -tickrate removed I hope Hidden Path will make it impossible/harder to make such plugins to unlock the tickrate. 2010/6/24 Ben B brutalgoerge...@gmail.com servers with that mod have A W F U L his registration. Oranegbox was designed and optnized for 66 tick. Forcing 100 totally screws it up. I know ill be avoiding awful servers running that 100 tick work-around On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: Lets see how fast it gets patched, that will be the real test. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: wow that was fast :P On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Bajdechi Nightbox Alexandru alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: http://didrole.com/tickrate_enabler/ 2010/6/24 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com I was able to bunnyhop on 66tick servers, but not on 33tick servers. 2010/6/24 Mark Gunnett mgunnett4...@gmail.com OrangeBox is source with a bunch of tweaks right? I know I can't Bhop in TeamFortress 2, so I was kind of expecting Bhoping, surfing, and all those other types of physics exploits to vanish in the move anyways. Is there anyone on this list that can confirm that they were able to Bhop in the CS:S Beta? Cause if not... Then the move to 66 tick really shouldn't matter for the physics anyways. It'll be more of a problem for people with bandwidth restrictions (i.e. they liked running 33 tick to reduce the amount of network data because they only have so much bandwidth per month). -- All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors. - Unknown When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion. - Abraham Lincoln Mark J. Gunnett [EoE]SniperFodder{AL} ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source: Tickrate change: Set to 66, -tickrate removed
Damn you Ivan! From: voo...@voogru.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:11:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source: Tickrate change: Set to 66, -tickrate removed Because in Soviet SRCDS, CSS plays you! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:06 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source: Tickrate change: Set to 66, -tickrate removed Why can't people let other people play how they want? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:28:59 +0200 From: anakin...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike Source: Tickrate change: Set to 66, -tickrate removed I hope Hidden Path will make it impossible/harder to make such plugins to unlock the tickrate. 2010/6/24 Ben B brutalgoerge...@gmail.com servers with that mod have A W F U L his registration. Oranegbox was designed and optnized for 66 tick. Forcing 100 totally screws it up. I know ill be avoiding awful servers running that 100 tick work-around On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: Lets see how fast it gets patched, that will be the real test. On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: wow that was fast :P On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Bajdechi Nightbox Alexandru alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote: http://didrole.com/tickrate_enabler/ 2010/6/24 AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com I was able to bunnyhop on 66tick servers, but not on 33tick servers. 2010/6/24 Mark Gunnett mgunnett4...@gmail.com OrangeBox is source with a bunch of tweaks right? I know I can't Bhop in TeamFortress 2, so I was kind of expecting Bhoping, surfing, and all those other types of physics exploits to vanish in the move anyways. Is there anyone on this list that can confirm that they were able to Bhop in the CS:S Beta? Cause if not... Then the move to 66 tick really shouldn't matter for the physics anyways. It'll be more of a problem for people with bandwidth restrictions (i.e. they liked running 33 tick to reduce the amount of network data because they only have so much bandwidth per month). -- All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors. - Unknown When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion. - Abraham Lincoln Mark J. Gunnett [EoE]SniperFodder{AL} ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] CSS OB first impressions?
RIP Bunnyhop. Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:21:16 -0600 From: mgunnett4...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] CSS OB first impressions? Fixes Like. Hit in FPS, Do not want. D: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.auwrote: I'd like it if it weren't posted on the list. On 25/06/2010 5:35 AM, Mark P wrote: yes 2010/6/24 HL-SDK Synthssyntron...@gmail.com Like as well On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Saul Rennisonsaul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Like. Thanks, - Saul. On 24 June 2010 18:38, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org priv...@caterhamhill.netwrote: As a community we derive from back in the days of cs1.2/3/4/5. When Source first came to our doors we embraced and shunned it at the same time, we all loved cs1.x but new source was the way forwards. So here we are source gone OB, love it or hate it, it's the way forwards. Lots will argue the 66 tick rule, the numerous faults and god knows what else but you know after 6 years of running and playing servers im quite happy css finaly made OB. It carries Valves support for hopefully plugging holes in what was a dated engine. This brings me to one observation that I have seen since CSS going OB. We run our servers as secure as possible, file perms set to a diff user, pure list kept tight and whatever sm/mm plugins are available to keep the servers safe. We have a good group of active admins with experience to clock dodgy players BUT Since last night we have seen a huge amount of players join then disconnect, maybe they have bad ping, maybe they don't like that pure list disabling skins but I have the feeling that nobody realised how many hackers there were out there. We used to ban maybe 2 to 5 players a day with the old engine over 3 servers with dodgy/obvious hacks. Today we have banned 1 in 24hrs. I know they will eventually script there sad lives back into cheating but for now it's just a slice of heaven. So for the first time in my life I commend valve on bring CSS up to date and making it a viable game that will have more attention the same as TF2 L4D2. As for gaming as a client I'm now 37 and past my sell by date for all these younguns that have lightening quick reactions. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors. - Unknown When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad, and that is my religion. - Abraham Lincoln Mark J. Gunnett [EoE]SniperFodder{AL} ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update Coming
Updating now 29% of 700~ mb Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:27:18 +0100 From: headad...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Counter-Strike: Source Update Coming http://store.steampowered.com/news/3976/ ... On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.dewrote: No client update? So it's not OB engine. Yep, and its out On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.dewrote: Beta goes live? A required update for Counter-Strike: Source is on the way. We're hoping to have it live in about 30 minutes. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 Server Benchmarking
Bots will consume significantly more hardware resources then Players.so like what josh said, its only a bandwidth problem, and seeing as your at a lan... Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:11:49 +0400 From: kna@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Server Benchmarking Just example from my client: On full 32/32 server with real players I have ~100 FPS. On full 32/32 with bots I have ~10 fps. So yes, if your hardware can handle 10 32-slot server with bots, it will be able to handle 10 32-slot servers with real players. However, real players consume bandwidth, but gigabit LAN should be enough. 2010/6/18 Josh Bost dislexs...@dislexsick.com Hi All, I'm preparing a server to be used at a local LAN party next month, the server is pretty much enterprise specs (Dell PowerEdge 2950 - Intel Xeon 5365, 16GB RAM, 6x146GB 15K RPM SAS drives in RAID-5) and I plan to have several game servers running at once. I want to figure out how many source servers I could run at once (Until now all my TF2 servers have been through GSPs), and so I made a little benchmark - a 32 man server, but since I can't populate that on my NAT'd (stupid landlord, fml) ADSL2 connection I decided to stick 32 bots in it, since I assume the AI would use just as many CPU cycles as a real player. Anyway, onto the questions: Has anybody tried this before? Does the benchmark given by running bots translate easily into real world performance (Even if it is something like take the CPU usage and multiply it by 1.5 to get an approximation of how much a real player would use, etc)? I am only interested in CPU here, as that is the weak point of the system (Allocating 500MB RAM to each server would give me 30 servers + 1GB RAM to the Host OS, and there is no way I would need that much - Similarly the RAID-5 Setup gives my 180-250MB/sec read speeds on the HDD - Dual Gigabit NICs will do just fine for a LAN party) Alternatively, is anybody using a similar setup and could give me some benchmarks for usage running TF2 (or L4D2, though it will only be running one or two L4D2) servers? Cheers, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
it seems that he is on to us From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:25:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released And they linked to my site on accident in the press release. Hilarity and server load ensued. But on a serious note, shut the fuck up every single one of you. You all are what is wrong with this list. On Tue, 2010-06-15 at 22:20 -0400, DarthNinja wrote: Speaking of cake, I heard something about an aperture science emergency surprise system at E3... ;) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Please stop. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Don't you mean cake ? Sent from my mobile. On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: All this fun has made me join this conversation by saying that I really like pie On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Mike Kurfis mkur...@gmail.com wrote: msleeper should be here any minute to complain. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:13 PM, HL-SDK Synths syntron...@gmail.com wrote: I lol'd at the signature wtb meme On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Thanks for clearing that up. Allan Button -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Willy Cordeiro Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released They're all one engine so Valve patches all of them at once. -Wellington Willy Cordeiro On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Nathan D. nathan...@cox.net wrote: It looks update CS:S-Beta, HL2 and DOD:S were updated as well. Any details? On 6/14/2010 7:10 PM, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. The major changes include: - Fixed client crash when rendering model panels - Fixed client crash when rendering text strings - Fixed client crash in the main menu - Fixed server crash related to bots and health kits Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
I guess that your running out of.. Steam. Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:31:47 +1000 From: gia...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released after this latest update my steam at home takes twice as long to start waiting On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Josh Bost dislexs...@dislexsick.comwrote: Get a real ISP. Internode/Adam/iiNet for example. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Sam Horn supersammyfl...@gmail.com wrote: Sent from my ASUS N10J© via Optus Broadband Cable*™* On 16 June 2010 10:26, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: All this fun has made me join this conversation by saying that I really like pie On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Mike Kurfis mkur...@gmail.com wrote: msleeper should be here any minute to complain. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:13 PM, HL-SDK Synths syntron...@gmail.com wrote: I lol'd at the signature wtb meme On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Thanks for clearing that up. Allan Button -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Willy Cordeiro Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released They're all one engine so Valve patches all of them at once. -Wellington Willy Cordeiro On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Nathan D. nathan...@cox.net wrote: It looks update CS:S-Beta, HL2 and DOD:S were updated as well. Any details? On 6/14/2010 7:10 PM, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. The major changes include: - Fixed client crash when rendering model panels - Fixed client crash when rendering text strings - Fixed client crash in the main menu - Fixed server crash related to bots and health kits Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
YOU RUINED IT Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:20:50 -0400 From: darthni...@darthninja.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released Speaking of cake, I heard something about an aperture science emergency surprise system at E3... ;) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Please stop. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Don't you mean cake ? Sent from my mobile. On Jun 15, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: All this fun has made me join this conversation by saying that I really like pie On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Mike Kurfis mkur...@gmail.com wrote: msleeper should be here any minute to complain. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 4:13 PM, HL-SDK Synths syntron...@gmail.com wrote: I lol'd at the signature wtb meme On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Thanks for clearing that up. Allan Button -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Willy Cordeiro Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released They're all one engine so Valve patches all of them at once. -Wellington Willy Cordeiro On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Nathan D. nathan...@cox.net wrote: It looks update CS:S-Beta, HL2 and DOD:S were updated as well. Any details? On 6/14/2010 7:10 PM, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. The major changes include: - Fixed client crash when rendering model panels - Fixed client crash when rendering text strings - Fixed client crash in the main menu - Fixed server crash related to bots and health kits Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ¤Ψ[GoR]|Ω|Ďaŗŧh_ÑiñjaΨ¤ http://www.DarthNinja.com http://www.GoRClan.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Black Listed / De-listed Servers?
In regards to server Ranking and Scoring:http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2338 From: alin...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:38:11 + Subject: Re: [hlds] Black Listed / De-listed Servers? That's because I used the setmaster command I showed a few replies ago. If I didn't put those in the start up config, it would not be showing. -Naso From: drunkenf...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 13:27:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] Black Listed / De-listed Servers? Your server shows up on the list for me. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alinay Gomez Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:00 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Black Listed / De-listed Servers Is there anyway to tell what servers have been de-listed? Our communities server is not showing up in the master server list, had more then a couple people check it and they confirmed that it does not show up. I don't want to spam an IP on here so if you want to know the IP so you can check for your self look at our community page http://steamcommunity.com/groups/LostBrotherhood I read that they manually de-list low quality servers from the list. I want to know what qualifies as a low quality server because we pay a good amount of money from a very awesome provider and always have people on the server through out the day? It really hurts the community when the server doesn't show up on the master server list, the only way players can find it is if there friends are playing on it and happen to join. This really limits the amount of new players that come into the server in any week, and in any community not having new players is usually a bad thing. Any information would be awesome, thanks. -Naso _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28 326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
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Re: [hlds] (Birthday)
Happy Birthday! Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:59:35 -0600 From: mgunnett4...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) Perfect spam message to wake up to on my birthday XD _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
STOP SPAMMING. honestly you people. Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:03:37 -0700 From: mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released You'd be so lucky to get a reply... From: Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:57:27 PM Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -Changed Survivorbot item hunting behavior -SurvivorBots now stay closer to human players in all game modes -Fixed Survivorbot navigation issue in The Passing: Riverbank -Fixed bug where a SurvivorBot could become catatonic when attempting to save another Survivor from a Smoker -Fixed condition where SurvivorBots would not enter the saferoom -Increased self-inflicted friendly fire damage from the Grenade Launcher -Fixed bug where the M60 would reset its ammo if dropped in certain situations -Car Alarms will now trigger anytime a Special Infected pushes/pulls/rams a Survivor into an alarm car. This change only affects game modes with human-controlled Zombies PS: This one isn't even a mutation update, and there wasn't an official email...did Jason just stop sending L4D2 emails? :P Jonah Hirsch --- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
Everyone but me. From: eclyp...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:15:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released What do you mean you people... From: lambda1_...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 01:08:00 +0800 Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released STOP SPAMMING. honestly you people. Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:03:37 -0700 From: mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released You'd be so lucky to get a reply... From: Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:57:27 PM Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -Changed Survivorbot item hunting behavior -SurvivorBots now stay closer to human players in all game modes -Fixed Survivorbot navigation issue in The Passing: Riverbank -Fixed bug where a SurvivorBot could become catatonic when attempting to save another Survivor from a Smoker -Fixed condition where SurvivorBots would not enter the saferoom -Increased self-inflicted friendly fire damage from the Grenade Launcher -Fixed bug where the M60 would reset its ammo if dropped in certain situations -Car Alarms will now trigger anytime a Special Infected pushes/pulls/rams a Survivor into an alarm car. This change only affects game modes with human-controlled Zombies PS: This one isn't even a mutation update, and there wasn't an official email...did Jason just stop sending L4D2 emails? :P Jonah Hirsch --- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
Honestly do you even think before replying? (yes i do). Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:06:02 +0100 From: kir...@poketch.net To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released By asking them to stop spamming, you are in turn causing spam. Just give up and set your e-mail client to bunch the mailing list together so it's just like a forum thread. /relurks On 10 June 2010 18:08, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com wrote: STOP SPAMMING. honestly you people. Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:03:37 -0700 From: mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released You'd be so lucky to get a reply... From: Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wed, June 9, 2010 7:57:27 PM Subject: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -Changed Survivorbot item hunting behavior -SurvivorBots now stay closer to human players in all game modes -Fixed Survivorbot navigation issue in The Passing: Riverbank -Fixed bug where a SurvivorBot could become catatonic when attempting to save another Survivor from a Smoker -Fixed condition where SurvivorBots would not enter the saferoom -Increased self-inflicted friendly fire damage from the Grenade Launcher -Fixed bug where the M60 would reset its ammo if dropped in certain situations -Car Alarms will now trigger anytime a Special Infected pushes/pulls/rams a Survivor into an alarm car. This change only affects game modes with human-controlled Zombies PS: This one isn't even a mutation update, and there wasn't an official email...did Jason just stop sending L4D2 emails? :P Jonah Hirsch --- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition (jimbomcb)
You must be This Awesome to Understand, I think your Level of Awesome has been Established. From: shortchinese...@cfl.rr.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 18:01:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition (jimbomcb) 1. What is this Master Server Addition for HL2 about? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:00 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: hlds Digest, Vol 28, Issue 4 Send hlds mailing list submissions to hlds@list.valvesoftware.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hlds-requ...@list.valvesoftware.com You can reach the person managing the list at hlds-ow...@list.valvesoftware.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of hlds digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: HL2 Master Server Addition (jimbomcb) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:37:50 +0100 From: jimbomcb jimbo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Message-ID: aanlktinql4l_pb0boeoppbp65anllrohgpmqylu4l...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 guys you're spamming my inbox, jeez On 4 June 2010 19:53, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: ok -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition His point was that there is no need to post this list UNLESS you have something contributing to say. There are hundreds of people on this list which do not want to see your pointless chatter filling the mailbox. Most us are just quiet about it because we know that feeding the troll will only make it more happy and the pointless chatter will continue. Now, please keep this in mind and do not post here useless crap. -ics 4.6.2010 20:50, Dominic Marciano kirjoitti: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:45:01 -0500 From: igni...@5e-community.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition But then of course, you would be spamming. Exactly, i'm playing on the Fact that oh so many of you WHINE about random unnecessary Chatter on this ML, by saying immediately that hes spamming. _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds End of hlds Digest, Vol 28, Issue 4 *** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition (jimbomcb)
Another one Bites the Dust. Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:30:15 +0200 From: rikard.brem...@warzone.nu To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition (jimbomcb) well thats mature. _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition
stop spamming. Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:38:19 -0400 From: matthew.j.andro...@lmco.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition This has been a unusually quiet mailing list. I can almost hear the echo -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition Nice! Offtopic: Any news on the Cvars/STV/sv_master_legacy_mode problem under Linux? 2010/5/28 Zoid Kirsch z...@valvesoftware.com We have added an additional HL2 Master server at address 72.165.61.153:27015. I've seen a few scripts posted here using the setmaster dedicated server console command. Generally, you do not need to manually specify the master addresses. Additional setmaster commands with other addresses in your server.cfg will just have your dedicated server trying send updates to non-existent masters. Servers that restart will automatically detect this new master server and use it appropriately. There are only three currently active HL2 Master servers: 216.207.205.99:27011 216.207.205.98:27011 72.165.61.153:27015 -- /// Zoid. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition
Do i have to Explain? From: de...@xfactorservers.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:03:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition Lol, I don't get on how he was spamming... last I checked this was a mailing list. Yet he had time to reply saying stop spamming. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Allan Button Sent: June-04-10 12:02 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition LOL -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:28 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition INBFTLOL -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: 2010-06-04 11:23 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition stop spamming. Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:38:19 -0400 From: matthew.j.andro...@lmco.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition This has been a unusually quiet mailing list. I can almost hear the echo -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:41 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition Nice! Offtopic: Any news on the Cvars/STV/sv_master_legacy_mode problem under Linux? 2010/5/28 Zoid Kirsch z...@valvesoftware.com We have added an additional HL2 Master server at address 72.165.61.153:27015. I've seen a few scripts posted here using the setmaster dedicated server console command. Generally, you do not need to manually specify the master addresses. Additional setmaster commands with other addresses in your server.cfg will just have your dedicated server trying send updates to non-existent masters. Servers that restart will automatically detect this new master server and use it appropriately. There are only three currently active HL2 Master servers: 216.207.205.99:27011 216.207.205.98:27011 72.165.61.153:27015 -- /// Zoid. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:45:01 -0500 From: igni...@5e-community.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2 Master Server Addition But then of course, you would be spamming. Exactly, i'm playing on the Fact that oh so many of you WHINE about random unnecessary Chatter on this ML, by saying immediately that hes spamming. _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Weekly L4D2 update released...
Subject: [hlds] Weekly L4D2 update released... whats with the Dots, it makes me think your nonchalant about it. From: crazydog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:52:19 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Weekly L4D2 update released... - New mutation: Chainsaw Massacre - In Versus Special Infected bots spawn within 10 seconds of the Survivors leaving the safe room - Shortened spawn times for human Special Infected when the Infected team isn’t full. The time difference is added to the timer of the next bot in line to spawn - Exposed client console variable cl_viewmodelfovsurvivor to let players adjust their viewmodel FOV - To use this type cl_viewmodelfovsurvivor ## in the console. ## can be any number from 0-128 the default is 51 Jonah Hirsch --- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] anyone got this before?
Glad i could help. Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 06:38:45 +0200 From: rikard.brem...@warzone.nu To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] anyone got this before? so i created the dirs manually and now it workt, hldsupdatettool is quite stupid in these matters o_O -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark ComHem AB - http://www.comhem.se Warzone.nu - http://www.warzone.nu Warzone Short Valley rikard.brem...@warzone.nu z...@warzone.nu On 2010-05-25 06:36, Rikard Bremark wrote: C:\Program Files\Valve\HLServerHldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game Counte r-Strike Source -verify_all -retry -dir D:/srcds/27015 Checking bootstrapper version ... Getting version 41 of Steam HLDS Update Tool Downloading. . . . . . . . . . C:\Program Files\Valve\HLServerpause Press any key to continue . . . Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation C:\Program Files\Valve\HLServerHldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game Counte r-Strike Source -verify_all -retry -dir D:/srcds/27017 Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation Cannot open blob archive file: CMultiFieldBlob(mem-mapped file): File does not e xist and failed to create new file Cannot open blob archive file: CMultiFieldBlob(mem-mapped file): File does not e xist and failed to create new file iwe tried remooving the client registry.blob and i have changed security settings, no go. even reinstalled hldsupdatetool -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark ComHem AB - http://www.comhem.se Warzone.nu - http://www.warzone.nu Warzone Short Valley rikard.brem...@warzone.nu z...@warzone.nu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Clients Loading Plugins
Added my Support for the Update. Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 15:28:05 -0400 From: halflife...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Clients Loading Plugins http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1276380 Sorry if this is old, but apparently Valve is removing it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Thanks Guys your so nice. Happy Birthday Synths Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 06:07:15 -0400 From: mysteriousjus...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) http://mypieceoftheinter.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/portal-cake.jpg Have some cake.. Maybe its a lie.. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:50 PM, HL-SDK Synths syntron...@gmail.com wrote: Mine is this weekend. Happy birthday to the both! On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: Its my birthday today, don't be hatin' From: abut...@netaccess.ca To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:37:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) reactionimage.avi -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of myself last name goes here Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) oh, sorry, i forgot that everyone on the internet is a complete asshole! next time when i get an e-mail from anyone i won't reply because god forbid something lands in your inbox jesus christ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: thank YOU for spamming my inbox... I have blocked this guy, but people _still_ feel the need to reply to them, and we all get the emails anyway. Can't you just drop it and simply NOT reply? On 17 May 2010 21:39, myself last name goes here rageph...@gmail.com wrote: you there, shut it up with your ads this is supposed to be a CLEAN inbox On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dustin wizards turbowiz2...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.radio-4fun.eu/home.php _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.auhttp://domain.com.au/ http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike: Source Beta Updates Available
Its a popularity thing. From: karlicio...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 01:00:31 +0200 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike: Source Beta Updates Available My server has been updated already. :) 2010/5/20 Tom Grant aksu...@gmail.com Ha! Not looking so good on my end. Seems like each update takes longer and longer to get! On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:53 PM, doc drga...@gmail.com wrote: Let's hope I can get the update faster than last time! On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: Required updates for Team Fortress 2 and Counter-Strike: Source Beta are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the updates. The specific changes include: Engine: - Improved crash reporting system to enable more detailed crash reports - Fixed a client crash caused by a buffer overflow while processing temp entities Counter-Strike: Source Beta: - Fixed not being able to add bots to the game using the Create Server dialog - Fixed some movement ConVars to match the current Counter-Strike: Source settings for default values and flags - Fixed several rubberbanding/stuttering issues with objects and players - Fixed several ConVars (sv_accelerate, maxspeed, etc.) being hidden - Fixed bloom problems - Fixed a server crash caused by malformed client autobuy string - Fixed developer console output being on by default - Fixed Report Bug in the main menu not working - Fixed the missing icon for the desktop shortcut - Fixed the rebuy command not buying the correct items depending on the order they were purchased in - Fixed the clock image in the spectator HUD being clipped Team Fortress 2: - Fixed a case where the Spy could start taunting and cloak at the same time Flamethrower changes: - Increased base damage 10% - Afterburn duration increased (from 6 to 10) - Flares that hit a burning player at mid-to-long range will crit - Reduced Backburner damage bonus from 20% to 15% Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Its my birthday today, don't be hatin' From: abut...@netaccess.ca To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:37:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) reactionimage.avi -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of myself last name goes here Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) oh, sorry, i forgot that everyone on the internet is a complete asshole! next time when i get an e-mail from anyone i won't reply because god forbid something lands in your inbox jesus christ On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: thank YOU for spamming my inbox... I have blocked this guy, but people _still_ feel the need to reply to them, and we all get the emails anyway. Can't you just drop it and simply NOT reply? On 17 May 2010 21:39, myself last name goes here rageph...@gmail.com wrote: you there, shut it up with your ads this is supposed to be a CLEAN inbox On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dustin wizards turbowiz2...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.radio-4fun.eu/home.php _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
THANK YOU For spamming MY Inbox. Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:44:19 +0100 From: oli...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) thank YOU for spamming my inbox... I have blocked this guy, but people _still_ feel the need to reply to them, and we all get the emails anyway. Can't you just drop it and simply NOT reply? On 17 May 2010 21:39, myself last name goes here rageph...@gmail.comwrote: you there, shut it up with your ads this is supposed to be a CLEAN inbox On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Dustin wizards turbowiz2...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.radio-4fun.eu/home.php _ Looking for a place to manage all your online stuff? Download the new Windows Live http://download.live.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
we already have SM drugs plugin... From: d...@precdata.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:27:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) This is true.. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HL-SDK Synths Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) He may be proposing a partnership between the HLDS team and some pharmaceutical companies. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Atleast it breaks up the arguments about downloading CSS_Beta -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:39 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) I wish we could remove people off the list that spam there virus ridden computers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David Britton Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:03 PM To: reply-32261-1694546-72-re...@potatoeye.com; rwilliams5...@comcast.net; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; starst...@btconnect.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Subject: [hlds] (no subject) http://kocon.medscheapstore.net/?cid=medscheapstore.net _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W L:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W%0AL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
I See what you did there. From: kyle.l...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 12:32:48 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) Quite a few of us are still leaking memory like a Sieve though, Dominic. Kyle. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com wrote: we already have SM drugs plugin... From: d...@precdata.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:27:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) This is true.. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HL-SDK Synths Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 11:23 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) He may be proposing a partnership between the HLDS team and some pharmaceutical companies. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Atleast it breaks up the arguments about downloading CSS_Beta -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:39 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) I wish we could remove people off the list that spam there virus ridden computers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David Britton Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:03 PM To: reply-32261-1694546-72-re...@potatoeye.com; rwilliams5...@comcast.net; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; starst...@btconnect.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Subject: [hlds] (no subject) http://kocon.medscheapstore.net/?cid=medscheapstore.net _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W L:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W%0AL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
that doesn't mean to say a steam admin of some sort would disable your account. Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 10:13:29 -0400 From: syntron...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA VAC acts on cheats, this is not cheating. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:52 AM, Christian Baier chrisco.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Could your steam account be banned for getting the beta without getting it legit? On 5/14/10, Max S si3ila...@gmail.com wrote: That is, if you're not a legitimate member of the beta. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Max S si3ila...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having trouble finding the cstrike_beta folder - do you know where the Steam validation installs it? I'll test it once I have the beta running, but remember: you need TF2 and CS:S to play on public servers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
In relation to the ethics or morals (w/e) of attaining the CS:S Beta.. Do what you want, but don't whine if steam nukes your account. _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Again, Quit Whining. Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:48:10 -0500 From: msilby...@righttorule.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA There is great piece of software that has great benefits to this sort of stuff. Let me see what was it again?? oh yea A FORUM! you have singed up on this mailing list to recieve information that valve is updating or changing something that the server admins would need to know or use. why rant and rave on this mailing list (you are preaching to the choir) understand that mailing list ARE JUST THAT. So the guy got banned, that is between him and valve. want to complain about it take it to a forum or a newsgroup where poeple really care... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Indeed From: karlicio...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:23:55 +0200 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Yes please! :P 2010/5/13 Mark P tf2ma...@gmail.com engineer update 2010/5/13 Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com A required update for Team Fortress 2, and an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source and the Counter-Strike: Source Beta is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: Linux Dedicated Server: - Fixed srcds_run to work properly with the Counter-Strike: Source beta dedicated server when autoupdating. Engine: - Fixed the startmovie command not using the codec dialog. Team Fortress 2: - Fixed dropped weapons and ammo kits not being affected by explosions. - Adding missing +lookup and +lookdown keybind options. - Added SetCTFCaptureBonusTime tf_gamerules input to allow map authors to set the length of crit bonus time (in seconds) for CTF captures. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Quit Whining. Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 21:05:25 +0200 From: beretta.clau...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA I believe they are updating just for releasing it on the Mac (one engine is easier and cheaper to maintain). css players didn't ask this kind of update, they want the same old shit: CSS on OB won't feel right for a lot of them. This update has very little value for existing players, and will be a nightmare for server admins. Most of the existing exploits are already fixed using community provided plugins and workaround. The fact it is free doesn't mean it is good and something we should thank for. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Nathan D. nathan...@cox.net wrote: So, Valve shouldn't update their games because you don't want to upgrade your PC? You should stick with consoles then... I hate when people show lack of appreciation for Valve's free updates. We love you Valve! Please continue with your awesomeness. On 5/12/2010 1:33 PM, Mark Gunnett wrote: I honestly Don't know about this. One, I'm for it if it brings more exploit fixes to the CS:S Servers and clients. But I'm also against it in the fact that it is orangebox. It may be just TF2, but whenever a server gets full I take huge hits to FPS. I've had friends who had to quit playing TF2 cause all of the updates have slowly turned that game into a monster when it comes to running it. I don't want to see the same thing happen to CS:S. True, my rig may be crappy, but having to buy a new PC just to play a game I already own and runs great as it is (aside from the exploits), will not make me happy. But This is valve, and they are going to do it anyways whether we like it or not :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Holy shit indeed From: crazydog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 12:15:29 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA So, CS:S is now a TF2 mod? :P I'M JUST KIDDING. CALM DOWN. Nice to finally see the game on the OB engine. Jonah Hirsch --- On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Eric Smith er...@valvesoftware.comwrote: COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE UPDATE NOW IN BETA Available immediately, Valve has launched an extensive update to Counter-Strike: Source, now in beta. The update includes a host of new features and functionality developed in collaboration with Hidden Path Studios. These include 144 new achievements, a new domination and revenge system, player stats, and more. This beta will run for a limited time, and once complete, the update will be deployed to all Counter-Strike: Source owners for free via Steam. The dedicated server files are available via the HLDSUpdateTool using -game cssbeta in the command line. For more information, please visit www.steamgames.com http://www.steamgames.com. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Agreed, but i suspect its many of the Improvements from the latest source games. From: otst...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 23:29:40 +0400 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA Any way to see the list of many source engine updates? _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA
Dear god no.. (i expect 50+ emails when i wake up in the morning) From: eclyp...@hotmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:35:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA nh let's leave it up to the imagination... Hats, community weapons, taunts... Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
You forgot the Bit about the Parenting entities, like how you fixed that.. Right? From: jas...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:42:01 -0700 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Fixed players seeing cloaked Spies when they should be fully cloaked - Updated the Homewrecker - It now damages enemy sappers on friendly buildings - Fixed items not displaying correctly while playing back a demo - Badge hire dates now display the time in GMT Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Yeah i think that was in there.. Oh wait.. From: lord.matt.hoff...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 23:29:40 -0700 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Or how they fixed some weapons (Flaregun, Huntsman, etc) only spawning with half the proper clip size in Arena... Right? On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com wrote: You forgot the Bit about the Parenting entities, like how you fixed that.. Right? From: jas...@valvesoftware.com To: hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:42:01 -0700 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Fixed players seeing cloaked Spies when they should be fully cloaked - Updated the Homewrecker - It now damages enemy sappers on friendly buildings - Fixed items not displaying correctly while playing back a demo - Badge hire dates now display the time in GMT Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Please
GARBAGE DAY?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7gIpuIVE3k From: abut...@netaccess.ca To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 11:54:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Please You call this a garbage thread? This is a garbage thread! You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend You're an alien sex fiend And you go la la lala la la la la lala la la... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz Sent: May-05-10 11:39 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please You aren't alone at all. But the fact that you created an off topic thread and fed all the trolls is another matter. Inadvertently you created just another garbage thread. -f0rkz On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 09:16 -0500, Msilbys12 wrote: Yea, it is nice to see that I am not alone !! Sent from the best phone ever On May 5, 2010, at 6:35 AM, HL-SDK Synths syntron...@gmail.com wrote: Buy Half life 5 and get iron man 6 tickets for preordering On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Iron man 4 is so good the decided to skip 3. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Derek Denholm Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:47 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please They decided to go from Iron Man 2 to 4 and skipping 3. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: May-04-10 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Where's Iron Man 3? From: gamerzwo...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:37:02 -0400 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Brian, it takes a lot of testers to test L4D3. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Saber 0sab...@gmail.com wrote: Nope.avi 2010/5/3 Radu Suciu radusu...@gmail.com Anyone see Iron Man 2 yet? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: Must be the new moderator valve brought in. On 4 May 2010 02:23, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: And you are? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Msilbys12 msilby...@righttorule.com wrote: Please keep the email to problems or bugs found. Thx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
Re: [hlds] Please
Your all So Witty. From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:04:34 -0500 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please There will be no Iron Man 3. Rather, Valve will release Episode 3. At least that was the plan. Valve will then skip 3 and 4 and release Half-Life 5 following closing by Iron Man 6. P.S. Gabe is Iron Man. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Saber 0sab...@gmail.com wrote: What about the first compared to the fourth? 2010/5/4 Yatin Vadhia ya...@yatin.co.uk 43 On 4 May 2010 15:50, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Iron man 4 is so good the decided to skip 3. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Derek Denholm Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:47 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please They decided to go from Iron Man 2 to 4 and skipping 3. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: May-04-10 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Where's Iron Man 3? From: gamerzwo...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:37:02 -0400 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Brian, it takes a lot of testers to test L4D3. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Saber 0sab...@gmail.com wrote: Nope.avi 2010/5/3 Radu Suciu radusu...@gmail.com Anyone see Iron Man 2 yet? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: Must be the new moderator valve brought in. On 4 May 2010 02:23, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: And you are? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Msilbys12 msilby...@righttorule.com wrote: Please keep the email to problems or bugs found. Thx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go
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No its still Here. Quit Whining, you are all Babies. Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 21:42:24 -0400 From: fortinj1...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please It has died. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Mike Stiehm mikesti...@gmail.com wrote: So this is what this list has come to now? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kitteny Berk Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 11:51 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please You're On 04/05/2010 17:42, Dominic Marciano wrote: Your all So Witty. From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:04:34 -0500 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please There will be no Iron Man 3. Rather, Valve will release Episode 3. At least that was the plan. Valve will then skip 3 and 4 and release Half-Life 5 following closing by Iron Man 6. P.S. Gabe is Iron Man. On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Saber0sab...@gmail.com wrote: What about the first compared to the fourth? 2010/5/4 Yatin Vadhiaya...@yatin.co.uk 43 On 4 May 2010 15:50, Allan Buttonabut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Iron man 4 is so good the decided to skip 3. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Derek Denholm Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:47 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please They decided to go from Iron Man 2 to 4 and skipping 3. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: May-04-10 12:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Where's Iron Man 3? From: gamerzwo...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:37:02 -0400 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Brian, it takes a lot of testers to test L4D3. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Saber0sab...@gmail.com wrote: Nope.avi 2010/5/3 Radu Suciuradusu...@gmail.com Anyone see Iron Man 2 yet? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Ollyoli...@gmail.com wrote: Must be the new moderator valve brought in. On 4 May 2010 02:23, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: And you are? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Msilbys12 msilby...@righttorule.com wrote: Please keep the email to problems or bugs found. Thx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
HOLY SHIT. Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:25:02 -0400 From: mysteriousjus...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) OMFG On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:36 AM, David Britton sugardaddy323...@hotmail.comwrote: http://www.plantemosparaelplaneta.com/oTwcnSe81c.html _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Wait what? ... Oh. From: voo...@voogru.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:30:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) BBQ!! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 8:31 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) HOLY SHIT. Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 07:25:02 -0400 From: mysteriousjus...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) OMFG On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:36 AM, David Britton sugardaddy323...@hotmail.comwrote: http://www.plantemosparaelplaneta.com/oTwcnSe81c.html _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W L:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Please
Where's Iron Man 3? From: gamerzwo...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 22:37:02 -0400 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Please Brian, it takes a lot of testers to test L4D3. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Saber 0sab...@gmail.com wrote: Nope.avi 2010/5/3 Radu Suciu radusu...@gmail.com Anyone see Iron Man 2 yet? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: Must be the new moderator valve brought in. On 4 May 2010 02:23, Matthew Gottlieb matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: And you are? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Msilbys12 msilby...@righttorule.com wrote: Please keep the email to problems or bugs found. Thx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
The Game. From: sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com To: reply-32261-1694546-72-re...@potatoeye.com; rwilliams5...@comcast.net; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; starst...@btconnect.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 14:08:33 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) www.kwd1.HEALTH-LIFE-CO.com _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Because its 2.33am and i have nnothing better to do, and because i'm impulsive. Why ask? Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:31:00 +0100 From: oli...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) ... why reply. On 1 May 2010 19:25, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com wrote: The Game. From: sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com To: reply-32261-1694546-72-re...@potatoeye.com; rwilliams5...@comcast.net; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; starst...@btconnect.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 14:08:33 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) www.kwd1.HEALTH-LIFE-CO.com _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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My bad, i read it as a Question.Also. @Bryce: Don't get upset and add to it. Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:38:05 +0100 From: oli...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) I didn't ask, there was no question mark at the end. On 1 May 2010 19:33, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com wrote: Because its 2.33am and i have nnothing better to do, and because i'm impulsive. Why ask? Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:31:00 +0100 From: oli...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) ... why reply. On 1 May 2010 19:25, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com wrote: The Game. From: sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com To: reply-32261-1694546-72-re...@potatoeye.com; rwilliams5...@comcast.net; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; starst...@btconnect.com; supp...@smokingeverywhere.com; supp...@trymedia.com Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 14:08:33 -0400 Subject: [hlds] (no subject) www.kwd1.HEALTH-LIFE-CO.com _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Source Engine Needs to harden up. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 21:30:47 -0400 From: duanns...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) I know these simple hl2 bugs gotta be fixed On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.comwrote: i need these. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:25:38 +0200 From: tf2ma...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) w 2010/4/27 David Britton sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com http://beamasterson2759.my3gb.com/ _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
i need these. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 18:25:38 +0200 From: tf2ma...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) w 2010/4/27 David Britton sugardaddy323...@hotmail.com http://beamasterson2759.my3gb.com/ _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [TF2] Is it possible to replace sound files?
-1 From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 16:19:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] [TF2] Is it possible to replace sound files? That probably belongs on the Sourcemod forums, not here. On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 16:16 -0400, In Hyuk Seo wrote: Umm it didn't work. Could any of you elaborate on the sound hook thing please? I have no idea how I hook the sounds. Thank you. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:02 PM, In Hyuk Seo roadhous...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, thank you so much guys. I really appreciate it. I located the sound files in scripts/player. so all I have to do is change the paths for each sound clip in game_sounds_player.txt and put my own custom sounds accordingly, right? On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote: Most sounds locations are defined inside the different sound list scripts (checkout scripts/game_sounds_manifest.txt). Depending on the entity and the sound that is being played, the clients script will need to point to the correct sound. Its not always a 100% server-side thing. Olly On 8 April 2010 16:31, Michael Krasnow mnk...@gmail.com wrote: or you can hex edit the server.dll to new paths, actually taunts might be done throught the ctx files On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah this should do the trick: http://docs.sourcemod.net/api/index.php?fastload=showid=787; Thanks, - Saul. On 8 April 2010 15:09, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: Sourcemod has sound hooks. http://docs.sourcemod.net/api/ That might be helpful. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com wrote: Block specific SVC_PlaySound's and then send out custom ones; would be pretty easy. On Thursday, April 8, 2010, Scott Highland tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote: You'd have to change the game to reference a new sound file that your clients download as a resource, I'm not quite sure how you'd do that though. ??? wrote: I've seen servers with replaced sound clips even for taunt and stuff like that, but I have no idea how it's done. 2010/4/8 Dr.Stinglock ad...@hellrazor.net.au Unfortunately nobody will download the new sound files as they already have it on their client. I'm sure it could be achieved with sourcemod ,I just had a quick search and couldn't find anything other than endround and killstreak sounds but something like that is probably be what you're after. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of In Hyuk Seo Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2010 2:35 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] [TF2] Is it possible to replace sound files? Is it possible to replace sound files on the server so everyone hears the same replaced clip? I'd like to replace various sound files like pyro taunt, medic's ubercharge, etc. with my own clips and I am not sure if it's possible. I am sorry if this is sourcemod related, I don't even know if this requires a plugin to be honest. I'd appreciate any help. Thank you. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5008 (20100407) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5008 (20100407) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___
[hlds] [OT] Team Fortress 2 - Law Abiding Engineer
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Re: [hlds] A Proposal
+1 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:57:59 -0400 From: aidsf...@gmail.com To: hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] A Proposal I have noticed that a lot of server admins here are somewhat displeased with Valve's lax approach to some of the more recent server exploits. While this may be hogwash, I think it might be due to Valve not being able to replicate the the bugs. I also have noticed that debugging srcds is not very fruitful for us since we don't have a special debug version of srcds. Thus, I propose that Valve starts a few honeypot servers, that get regular traffic. These honeypot servers would allow Valve to run the special debug version of srcds so that when crashes and other exploits occur, they have all the information they need to properly investigate the bug. I realize this is easier said than done, but it would allow for Valve to see that said bugs DO in fact exist. Just an Idea ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Video chat with Windows Live Messenger Learn how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/messenger/article/870686/video-chat-with-messenger ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.
it takes someone to fall to their death before they put safety rails. From: saul.renni...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:56:39 +0100 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. How about just allowing plugins for dedicated servers? Just as a heads up, I'm gonna try to make a client plugin which hooks SVC_GetCvarValue, and just always responds with the default CVar value. This renders any server-side cheat detection (like KAC) completely useless. Hopefully releasing it as a POC will force VALVe to do something (why does it always have to come to this?) Thanks, - Saul. On 28 March 2010 14:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that's a good idea. Someone will just code a client side plugin to report false informations to the server. 2010/3/28 Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com I have e-mailed somebody at valve, and simply asked them if the server operators can see a list of plugins on the client ( like plugin_print ). This would give the operator the ability to kick if plugins are loaded on the client. But I think also looking at the GameBin will allow the server to see if they are loading anything outside of the standard VSP interface. I don't think stopping it will be completely possible on the client, but giving the server operator the choice would be a nice thing. But they did respond that they are working on it. Keeper -Original Message- From: Kyle Sanderson [mailto:kyle.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:33 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. Since forever, players have been able to load plugins on their clients letting them get around cheat sensitive variables such as sv_cheats, allowing them to use r_drawothermodels, mat_wireframe, etc. We as server admins have had the option to install various anti cheat addons (Kigen Anti Cheat, VBAC, and than some rather lame ones for EventScripts) in order to get around these quite severe downfalls in the engine. However now, there is a LUA scripting interface http://www.3rdera.com/ that has been written, and is now fully supporting engine exploits in order to cause trouble for server admins and for other players. No one can justify it's use, every single script written has been made to get around server settings and protections put in place to keep order, and to keep the game fluently moving along. Right now, players cannot be VAC banned for using this, it's also going against every single reason why VAC was created. Instead of battling these antics with these scripters, I'm begging you Valve to please remove this function from clients as there's absolutely no reason for them to have it. I've sent two emails to a couple employees which were left unanswered, I know others have done the same. Here's a forum full of countless exploits: http://www.3rdera.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5 If you don't want to read the wall of text explaining why players should not be allowed to load plugins, I'm sure your common sense on the issue will be more than sufficient to respond. Kyle Sanderson. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough.
Pov-Record 1.4.1 loadedRecording only curstomnamed demos--- Missing Vgui material vgui/..\vgui\icon_con_highYour version is 1.4.1Current version is 1.4.2. Updating is recommended.Please go to orangad.com.ua for releases and info. From: saul.renni...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:33:21 +0100 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. Where can this plugin be located, and is there source code? Thanks, - Saul. On 28 March 2010 20:50, Charles Mabbott cmabb...@verizon.net wrote: In a general sense, there are a couple of client side plug-ins that do in fact serve a valid purpose, POV-Recorder, the ESEA Client plug-in and a couple of others. At this point I am definitely for simply locking out plug-ins on the client side, but I would rather not lose some of the functionality these have. And on another note, the client plugin to intercept CVAR responses to the server has existed for quite a while now. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dominic Marciano Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 11:14 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. it takes someone to fall to their death before they put safety rails. From: saul.renni...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:56:39 +0100 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. How about just allowing plugins for dedicated servers? Just as a heads up, I'm gonna try to make a client plugin which hooks SVC_GetCvarValue, and just always responds with the default CVar value. This renders any server-side cheat detection (like KAC) completely useless. Hopefully releasing it as a POC will force VALVe to do something (why does it always have to come to this?) Thanks, - Saul. On 28 March 2010 14:49, AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think that's a good idea. Someone will just code a client side plugin to report false informations to the server. 2010/3/28 Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com I have e-mailed somebody at valve, and simply asked them if the server operators can see a list of plugins on the client ( like plugin_print ). This would give the operator the ability to kick if plugins are loaded on the client. But I think also looking at the GameBin will allow the server to see if they are loading anything outside of the standard VSP interface. I don't think stopping it will be completely possible on the client, but giving the server operator the choice would be a nice thing. But they did respond that they are working on it. Keeper -Original Message- From: Kyle Sanderson [mailto:kyle.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:33 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Plugin Loading on clients, enough is enough. Since forever, players have been able to load plugins on their clients letting them get around cheat sensitive variables such as sv_cheats, allowing them to use r_drawothermodels, mat_wireframe, etc. We as server admins have had the option to install various anti cheat addons (Kigen Anti Cheat, VBAC, and than some rather lame ones for EventScripts) in order to get around these quite severe downfalls in the engine. However now, there is a LUA scripting interface http://www.3rdera.com/ that has been written, and is now fully supporting engine exploits in order to cause trouble for server admins and for other players. No one can justify it's use, every single script written has been made to get around server settings and protections put in place to keep order, and to keep the game fluently moving along. Right now, players cannot be VAC banned for using this, it's also going against every single reason why VAC was created. Instead of battling these antics with these scripters, I'm begging you Valve to please remove this function from clients as there's absolutely no reason for them to have it. I've sent two emails to a couple employees which were left unanswered, I know others have done the same. Here's a forum full of countless exploits: http://www.3rdera.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5 If you don't want to read the wall of text explaining why players should not be allowed to load plugins, I'm sure your common sense on the issue will be more than sufficient to respond. Kyle Sanderson. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your
Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why
Unless your comparing Mac to PC, which might happen soon.. in regards to server hosting. Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:40:20 +0800 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why Asking Linux or Windows is like comparing apples to oranges. Both have their pros and cons. If it's just one server I'd go Windows. On 27/03/2010 10:27 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I know how to setup everything quickly from ssh Sent from my iPod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Get personal with Windows. Download a free gift for your PC. http://experience.windows.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why
http://ingresstech.com/~bernard/instantCSI/ From: voo...@voogru.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:18:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why I use Windows, no problems here. Sent from my iWheel (I BEET U r JEAoLOUS) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Shane Arnold Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:40 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why Asking Linux or Windows is like comparing apples to oranges. Both have their pros and cons. If it's just one server I'd go Windows. On 27/03/2010 10:27 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: Just curious. Personally I use Linux because I know how to setup everything quickly from ssh Sent from my iPod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Get the latest jobs delivered. Sign up for SEEK Jobmail. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why
well.. never mind that then. Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:12:19 +0100 From: h...@thenob.de To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Windows or linux why Mac OS X: safer, but less secureSecurity expert Charlie Miller intends to disclose a potentially record-breaking 20 zero day security holes in Apple's Mac OS X in one fell swoop. http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Mac-OS-X-safer-but-less-secure-Update-957981.html 2010/3/27 Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com Unless your comparing Mac to PC, which might happen soon.. in regards to server hosting. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] 24bc89cd1003131339r2590c115ra84f08b2c8604...@mail.gmail.com
its a blank message to me... Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:06:25 +0100 From: buggslimi...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] 24bc89cd1003131339r2590c115ra84f08b2c8604...@mail.gmail.com To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Record to specific directory
there's always a plugin Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:32:55 +0800 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Record to specific directory Only thing I can think of is seeing if the srcds console has some sort of scripting (as in, seta var value, inc var e.t.c). Otherwise I'm sure there's a server-side SM plugin that does what you want :) On 13/03/2010 5:21 PM, Christoffer Pedersen wrote: Hi there Im trying to make my source tv recording to a specific directory through a alias. I have succeeded with recording directly from the command itself with: tv_record /path/to/demo/test.dem It worked, and the demo got recorded to the folder with the name test.dem. I want to use this as an alias, as my customers shouldn't write all that stuff. I simply want them to write recordfilename and make it record it to /path/to/demo/filename.dem . I have therefore tried to make an alias which says: alias record tv_record /path/to/demo/ I then tried to do record test.dem, but it recorded to /path/to/ demo/.dem (without any filename). How can i make the alias include the filename? Best regards Christoffer Pedersen Adm. Direktør ScanServers christof...@scanservers.eu www.scanservers.eu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Looking for a new home? With all the latest places, searching has never been easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] GoldSrc Dedicated Server update available
+1 this please. Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:40:25 -0500 From: mfnt...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] GoldSrc Dedicated Server update available now can you PLEASE fix the ghost issues in the tf2/css servers? Thanks... On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: An optional update has been release for GoldSrc dedicated servers. This update fixes a DoS crash caused by a specially crafted connect sequence, resulting in you seeing FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Host_Error: SV_ParseVoiceData: invalid incoming packet. in your server console. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Get the latest jobs delivered. Sign up for SEEK Jobmail. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] [OT?] What is this list to you Really?
I'd like to ask a pretty frank question. What exactly is this list to you? and what do you think should be on it? and what is relevant to it (HLDS)? Hopefully we can come to some kind or agreement on what is and isn't appropriate for this List. (no real hopes). 3: _ Find a great deal on your next car. Get straight to the Point. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157637060/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT?] What is this list to you Really?
From: clontar...@iinet.net.au Who are you? Dominic Marciano I run a server for my clan, i might not have multiple servers or such. but I'm a Server Operator none the less. Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:41:40 +0800 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT?] What is this list to you Really? Who are you? This list is a resource relating to hlds/srcds administration, primarily. It's secondary purpose would be discussion of related material. Common Sense would dictate what is and isn't appropriate for this list. Here's an example, this thread isn't appropriate. On 22/02/2010 6:28 PM, Dominic Marciano wrote: I'd like to ask a pretty frank question. What exactly is this list to you? and what do you think should be on it? and what is relevant to it (HLDS)? Hopefully we can come to some kind or agreement on what is and isn't appropriate for this List. (no real hopes). 3: _ Find a great deal on your next car. Get straight to the Point. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157637060/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] GSP Hosting Questions
Hypernia, Never had any Problems. though my server has only been up for 4-5 months. Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:01:15 -0500 From: violentcri...@convictgaming.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] GSP Hosting Questions *xfactorservers.com * They were a good hosting I used them before they seem to have good tech support hardly any downtime. Derek one of the owners is always around and willing to help. He still helps me know whenever I have issues with something on TCAdmin and I don't even colo or rent servers with them anymore not because of issues with them. *Nuclearfallout.net* I think NFO lost all their good techs Main one started ultimategameserver.com as I remember an issue I had with them with a server I had purchased for some reason their hosting routed me to Washington State then back to Chicago from Michigan and they told me that wasn't a big deal and they weren't going to fix it. *gameservers.com * I have used them for 4 yrs. I use to host around 15 servers with them I am now down to 3 server with them. I understand why people hate them aswell I cannot say I haven't had days where I have wanted to hurt someone there if Tellz Worm are reading this you know who just be kind personally I have never had issue of lag besides when the server box was being attacked. Their response time is slow but do you want a quick response or the right one. With that said I think they need to hire a couple more techs. I would personally use xfactorservers.com or gameservers.com As for the site gspreport.com they don't really guard against spamming. Any GS employee or owner can make up all the reviews to boost their ratings. To prove my point about this site http://gspreport.com/reviews/GameServers check out CockToe CockToes he is awesome. In closing all hosting companies have downtime and bad techs you are just going to have to pick one and hop they work for you. On 2/20/2010 9:26 AM, Alec Sanger wrote: I've been with gameservers, artofwarcentral, and leetservers. I've gotta say that Bobby from leetservers is the best I've ever worked with. Some of my biggest issues in the past were performance, and I've never had a single performance issue with leet. It seems to be a small team working over there, but they do a great job. I've currently got 19 servers from him, with 6 BC2 servers on the way. I won't say much about gameservers. They can offer you low low prices, but at the expense of performance. I think it's just matter of them overloading their boxes. Sometimes we'd get good performance, but other times it'd be bad. As for artofwarcentral... oh god... I'm going to post the book of a testimonial I wrote to them and posted on their forums in the testimonial section. Needless to say it was deleted within an hour. That pissed me right the fuck off, so I'm happy sharing it with everyone who wants to read it. I'd like to give my testimonial. Now this isn't a rant. I've had 2 dedicated servers with Art of War Central for 1 year. I've taken everything that's happened over the last year into consideration when writing this. And please note, I have never actually rented a single game server from Aowc, only dedicated servers. So where do I start... ah yes, lets start with their tech support. When it comes to support, Aowc is absolutely lacking. What I've gathered is that when it comes to dedicated servers, Art Of War Central does not actually have any more control over things than the customer does. When you submit a ticket to Aowc, it appears that they then contact the datacenter somehow (call? submit a ticket of their own?) and have whoever is working at that particular datacenter fix the problem. What is the need for the middle man? Why am I paying Aowc? When there is an issue with our servers, I like to know what happened. Oh it's fixed now sorry doesn't cut it for me. When I ask what the problem was, I get a response such as I do not know, the datacenter fixed it they didn't give me a description. This is pretty poor communication. The datacenter should relay what the issue was back to Aowc and Aowc should be able to supply me with a cause when I request. To give them credit, they were able to get our first box rebuilt because it was giving us so many issues. Unfortunately, when we got that server up, we went from 6 Ips to 1 Ip, and they were trying to charge us to get them back. After it reached management they just gave them back to us. Like I mentioned before, it seems as though they lease their equipment, so when a customer contacts the Aowc tech support, the Aowc tech support has to contact the dacacenter tech support. There's a lot of room for error there. While still on the subject of poor support, lets talk about the lag and what kind of responses I get when bringing it up
Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell
+1, Smashed. -sent by: ContributionBOT 104 Via Pigeon- From: d...@ourhumbleabode.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:53:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell I've tried very hard to ignore this whole, stupid thread. And I really do not want to contribute to its length. But I think my contract allows me one post per year. :) One fact remains blatantly obvious to me. There really was NO PROBLEM until msleeper posted his usual sarcastic comment and how is this pertinent to this list? (I'm paraphrasing his original e-mail.) Granted, perhaps the topic of discussion didn't exactly fit the guidelines perfectly, but so what? I was learning something by reading and it was far more interesting than the subsequent bickering that has ensued. I submit that if msleeper had not tried to play mailing list police, like he always does, the topic would have ended quickly and no one would be terribly upset. I doubt very much anyone would have left the mailing list just because they had to endure a few more e-mail exchanges between people that were helping each other. It really wasn't a big deal! Msleeper, can you please just learn to ignore threads that you're not interested in, instead of always trying to moderate the mailing list? Your constant critiques of whether or not a post meets your approval do more harm than good. Life goes on just fine, even if someone happens to stray a little off topic. Please just keep your keen off topic observations to yourself. Until this list has a true moderator with clear editing instructions, this list is simply not going to be perfect. Please stop pointing out to the whole group every time it isn't perfect. Sincerely, X-ray Doc -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of D4rKr0W Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:11 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Good bye, farewell, thanks for the help, and go to hell Il 16/02/2010 21:55, msleeper ha scritto: Yeah, that's the problem. Everyone has to. Everyone has to get their witty quips in, everyone has to post whatever dumb ass remark comes to mind, and before you know it there's 60+ responses to something that shouldn't have been posted in the first place. But go ahead and blame it on me for the lulz, right? I'm not blaming anybody, i'm just pointing out that flaming over such things is a waste of time and you guys keep doing it every time you got the chance. Get over it, this is a list dedicated to server OPs, you're not moderating it and even if you keep flaming people will still post things *you* think are OT. PROTIP: Ignore those threads and go on living your life like we all do. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] Website builder for your server websites
You Guys are Awesome. Sent from my Commodore 64 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:52:10 -0800 From: jonathan...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] Website builder for your server websites No offense to anyone but some of you are some whiny bitches, If its off topic ignore it delete it. Don't add to the off topic subject if you don't agree with it. I'd like to think that people are on this list to HELP people as long as its generally on topic and generally speaking his question was on topic. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Matt Lyons mly...@internode.com.au wrote: On 16/02/2010, at 11:52 AM, Peter Jerde wrote: Gosh I wish this list were moderated. Seriously, guys. Cut it out please. Maybe we should switch to using the steam forums. ... Oh wait. -- Matt Lyons Content Administrator, games.on.net Email: m...@games.on.net Web: http://games.on.net In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; In practice, there is. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Samuel Goldwynhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_goldwyn.html - I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never wrong. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Link all your email accounts and social updates with Hotmail. Find out now http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/oneinbox?ocid=T162MSN05A0710G ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] steam:// protocol commands
And then there is one less Stupid person on steam. Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:31:42 -0600 From: cc2isc...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] steam:// protocol commands Except people turn it off and then fall for it anyway. :) On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jonah Hirsch crazydog...@gmail.comwrote: That's how it works when you click a link in a chat window, so it's feasible. Jonah Hirsch --- On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Allan Button abut...@netaccess.ca wrote: Maybe give a popup when a url is launched. You are being redirected to a website that is not controlled or monitored by steam or valve. Do not enter any personal information on this website, and be sure to use the report phishing button in the web browser if you think the website is suspect. [ Continue ] [ Cancel ] This is how Outlook Web Access handles it, and maybe other services that allow external links. Allan -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:01 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] steam:// protocol commands Or we can use a url... I see major potential in this. If someone is stupid enough to fall for a spoof inside the overlay browser, maybe they deserve it? -f0rkz On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 18:07 -0500, Allan Button wrote: Why not have steam://overlay/community/# as a page then? Then the worst you can do is force them to your community page. Don't give direct access to web pages out of steams control. Allan -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:50 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] steam:// protocol commands The point of the overlay is that it is connected with community so users can join groups right from the server without using a bunch of work arounds and abusing the invite system. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: They could already do that in the MOTD if they really wanted to. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Rick Payton r...@mai-hawaii.com wrote: ooo man just imagine the phishing possibilities by rogue server admins if that functionality was implemented. Playing a game, and then an official looking login screen pops up prompting you to re-authenticate with the Steam cloud or be kicked from the server in 30 seconds - Steam support would be working overtime helping users get their accounts back. I imagine some of you here could come up with some really cool stuff too, stuff that could greatly benefit their community. Oh well :( --mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:40 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] steam:// protocol commands I'd have to assume that more people would fall for phishing in the overlay than in the motd. On Wednesday, February 10, 2010, f0rkz h...@f0rkznet.net wrote: I don't see how it could be abused further than the motd allows. Hopefully this isn't the case, but you are probably right. On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 10:18 -0800, DontWannaName! wrote: I think they are scared it would be abused. :P On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 10:14 AM, f0rkz h...@f0rkznet.net wrote: I would really love to see this feature added. Gives a little bit more to the MOTD. The ability to open a site in the overlay browser would help out a lot! -f0rkz On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 09:57 -0800, DontWannaName! wrote: I requested that a long long time ago. They have added support for it with the ingame button on the menu to take you to the blog but its built into the engine I believe and not a Steam:// command. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:02 AM, f0rkz h...@f0rkznet.net wrote: I've been poking around a little bit for some information on this. Is it possible to open the overlay browser from an MOTD in games like L4D and L4D2? http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam:// Overlay Browser *
Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon
Again, Smashed. Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:50:03 +0100 From: dark...@dpi-clan.org To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon Il 09/02/2010 15:44, Didrole ha scritto: Rofl what's that then ? http://hg.alliedmods.net/sourcemod-central/file/3a73bbf60f34 rofl what's this then ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon
http://www.sarcasmdetector.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:11:07 +0100 From: didr...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon Sorry my sarcasm detector is broken, I will buy a new one. 2010/2/9 Dominic Marciano lambda1_...@hotmail.com Again, Smashed. Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:50:03 +0100 From: dark...@dpi-clan.org To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon Il 09/02/2010 15:44, Didrole ha scritto: Rofl what's that then ? http://hg.alliedmods.net/sourcemod-central/file/3a73bbf60f34 rofl what's this then ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon
I like how he just told people how to H4X. even if it might not actually work on some servers. :3 From: oli...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:43:09 + Subject: Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon Sourcemod is a server plugin, you probobly tested it by running a listenserver Sent from my iPhone On 8 Feb 2010, at 13:36, w4rezz w4r...@gmail.com wrote: Who cares? You can use Sourcemod or eventscripts and code your own aimbot or wallhack with that. For example you can install sourcemod to your client and use sm_cvar r_Drawothermodels 2 and bOom..you have VAC undetected wallhack. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ View photos of singles in your area! Browse profiles for FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon
Sent from my iPhone 3GS Nice one. From: m...@luaduck.co.uk To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:03:36 + Subject: Re: [hlds] watch out lua script cheat available in CSS, may be all source game soon No, it's a real exploit caused by the client loading it's own sourcemod with full privileges in a listen server, then staying in the engine when you connect to another server. You can't do anything to other clients obviously, but you can change restricted CVars. Easily blockable using zBlock or an equiv. Sent from my iPhone 3GS On 8 Feb 2010, at 13:43, Olly Ginger oli...@gmail.com wrote: Sourcemod is a server plugin, you probobly tested it by running a listenserver Sent from my iPhone On 8 Feb 2010, at 13:36, w4rezz w4r...@gmail.com wrote: Who cares? You can use Sourcemod or eventscripts and code your own aimbot or wallhack with that. For example you can install sourcemod to your client and use sm_cvar r_Drawothermodels 2 and bOom..you have VAC undetected wallhack. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Video chat with Windows Live Messenger Learn how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/messenger/article/870686/video-chat-with-messenger ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Congrats. From: saxtonh...@me.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 13:25:28 + Subject: [hlds] (no subject) Sent from my iPhone ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Video chat with Windows Live Messenger Learn how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/messenger/article/870686/video-chat-with-messenger ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
Moving on. Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:07:34 +0800 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) Saxton Hale's first attempt at using email. From an iPhone of all things. I'm impressed. On 6/02/2010 9:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Sent from my iPhone ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] (no subject)
smashed. From: abut...@netaccess.ca To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:21:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) NO U -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:14 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) Stop feeind useless shit into these lists. This benefits no one. Don't you people have anything better to do? I know, you don't but still keep the discussion constructive and civil. Thanks. -ics 6.2.2010 18:52, Dominic Marciano kirjoitti: I think your right, i retract my previous statement. Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 08:50:48 -0800 From: tgnwe...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) no i feel as though we all need to sit down and discuss this some more Dominic Marciano wrote: Moving on. Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 22:07:34 +0800 From: clontar...@iinet.net.au To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] (no subject) Saxton Hale's first attempt at using email. From an iPhone of all things. I'm impressed. On 6/02/2010 9:25 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: Sent from my iPhone ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4842 (20100206) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4842 (20100206) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Time for a new car? Sell your old one fast! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157637060/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Shopping Trolley Mechanic If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Updates Available
Woo Update.. :3 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 10:03:08 +1100 From: chillic...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Updates Available Best update in ages, thanks valve. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Michael A Fanoni michael.a.fan...@gmail.com wrote: the hitsound update that took 2 years to come out was the best tf2 update, and that was originally implemented in decade old games, so I wouldn't expect much Nightbox wrote: good update. mp_highlander seems useless except tf2lobby. 2010/2/4 Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com Required updates for Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive them. The specific changes include: Engine Enabled Steam Cloud support for key bindings and custom spraypaint images - Added Options-Multiplayer-Advanced option to toggle off/on: default is on Team Fortress 2 Added new Highlander mode. - 9 players allowed per team. - Restricts each team to 1 of each class. - Use mp_highlander (0/1) to toggle off/on: default is 0 Added bots to the server's sv_tags convar if the server is running bots. Fixed a weapon name localization issue. Fixed the tf_teamtalk server convar not controlling text chat between living/dead teammates. Updated the map CTF_DoubleCross - Fixed the map not ending correctly when using mp_timelimit. - Changed to prevent Engineers from building on top of the shack in each base. Updated the map Arena_WatchTower - Fixed a case where players could open and get stuck on the starting gates before the round start. - Improved clipping to prevent people from getting out of the map. - Optimized the map for better performance. Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Video chat with Windows Live Messenger Learn how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/messenger/article/870686/video-chat-with-messenger ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds