Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com wrote: While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
I doubt it's the tide turner, otherwise we would see a lot more crashes since players use it a lot but the crash is related to some weapon or taunt even. Previous crashes where clients go down but server stays up usually are caused by someone doing something and others either see that or are near vicinity of the happening. Weird thing is that not all players crash, just the majority. -ics Lucas Wagner kirjoitti: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com wrote: While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
We've been getting these client crashes after the update as well. I think they are related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper. I've looked at crash dumps and C_TFBuffItem::SendWeaponAnim(int) is in the call stack when the server crashed. This points to the base jumper as the culprit. I looked at a friend's crash dump and it was identical. If Valve would like to take a look, I'd gladly send the crash dumps over. Like you guys I run a bunch of mods but from what I hear, this affects vanilla servers as well. Here's to hoping for a fix? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: I doubt it's the tide turner, otherwise we would see a lot more crashes since players use it a lot but the crash is related to some weapon or taunt even. Previous crashes where clients go down but server stays up usually are caused by someone doing something and others either see that or are near vicinity of the happening. Weird thing is that not all players crash, just the majority. -ics Lucas Wagner kirjoitti: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com mailto: ail...@gmail.com wrote: While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
They already fixed one crash related to base jumper after the first update where it came in. Are you suggesting that there is another aka are you still today or yesterday having crashes? -ics Alex Kowald kirjoitti: We've been getting these client crashes after the update as well. I think they are related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper. I've looked at crash dumps and C_TFBuffItem::SendWeaponAnim(int) is in the call stack when the server crashed. This points to the base jumper as the culprit. I looked at a friend's crash dump and it was identical. If Valve would like to take a look, I'd gladly send the crash dumps over. Like you guys I run a bunch of mods but from what I hear, this affects vanilla servers as well. Here's to hoping for a fix? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net mailto:i...@ics-base.net wrote: I doubt it's the tide turner, otherwise we would see a lot more crashes since players use it a lot but the crash is related to some weapon or taunt even. Previous crashes where clients go down but server stays up usually are caused by someone doing something and others either see that or are near vicinity of the happening. Weird thing is that not all players crash, just the majority. -ics Lucas Wagner kirjoitti: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com wrote: While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
June 20 they supposedly fixed the crash and these crash dumps were from yesterday. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:53 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: They already fixed one crash related to base jumper after the first update where it came in. Are you suggesting that there is another aka are you still today or yesterday having crashes? -ics Alex Kowald kirjoitti: We've been getting these client crashes after the update as well. I think they are related to the B.A.S.E. Jumper. I've looked at crash dumps and C_TFBuffItem::SendWeaponAnim(int) is in the call stack when the server crashed. This points to the base jumper as the culprit. I looked at a friend's crash dump and it was identical. If Valve would like to take a look, I'd gladly send the crash dumps over. Like you guys I run a bunch of mods but from what I hear, this affects vanilla servers as well. Here's to hoping for a fix? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net mailto: i...@ics-base.net wrote: I doubt it's the tide turner, otherwise we would see a lot more crashes since players use it a lot but the crash is related to some weapon or taunt even. Previous crashes where clients go down but server stays up usually are caused by someone doing something and others either see that or are near vicinity of the happening. Weird thing is that not all players crash, just the majority. -ics Lucas Wagner kirjoitti: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com mailto:ail...@gmail.com wrote: While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net mailto:je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
Tough call to use that as an example here. As a celeb STAR_ is the reason people would be playing on the server. Soon as he leaves so would they. On 26 Jun 2014 14:52, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com wrote: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 4:46 AM, Emil Larsson ail...@gmail.com wrote: While I hadn't firsthand experienced the crash, I noticed that a chunk of players would occasionally drop off the server. So there is some form of client crash. The new taunts are too fun to disable though (and the crash isn't common enough to be annoying), but I hope it's going to be fixed. Usually in the past this type of crashes happens cause of players doing something weird that clients get confused on, such as the dead ringer exploit ages ago where a dead ringer spy disguised as a heavy with his fists out would crash the clients on his feigned death. Wonder if anyone have figured out a similar reason why the new taunts would cause client crashes? On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Jesse Molina je...@opendreams.net wrote: I saw this on the Love and War patch day. About half the people on my server, including myself, had their clients crash at the same time. I have no idea what it was. There was no helpful clues on the console. This was an unmodded server; no MM/SM. I have not seen it happen since. On 6/25/14, 18:13, Peter Jerde wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
I have used that server, and check it whenever I play myself. It is always full, no exceptions. On Jun 26, 2014 1:54 PM, John Irwin j...@thepodkast.com wrote: Tough call to use that as an example here. As a celeb STAR_ is the reason people would be playing on the server. Soon as he leaves so would they. On 26 Jun 2014 14:52, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com wrote: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
I was just trying to be helpful and tell you that his crash and the circumstances (at least from his POV) are on that video. Ignore it if you want, but I figured it was worth an email if it was helpful to someone trying to track down a bug. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mike Bohde mikebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have used that server, and check it whenever I play myself. It is always full, no exceptions. On Jun 26, 2014 1:54 PM, John Irwin j...@thepodkast.com wrote: Tough call to use that as an example here. As a celeb STAR_ is the reason people would be playing on the server. Soon as he leaves so would they. On 26 Jun 2014 14:52, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com wrote: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
I agree with you, it along with a server log should provide some help on troubleshooting the issue. On Jun 26, 2014 3:58 PM, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com wrote: I was just trying to be helpful and tell you that his crash and the circumstances (at least from his POV) are on that video. Ignore it if you want, but I figured it was worth an email if it was helpful to someone trying to track down a bug. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Mike Bohde mikebo...@gmail.com wrote: I have used that server, and check it whenever I play myself. It is always full, no exceptions. On Jun 26, 2014 1:54 PM, John Irwin j...@thepodkast.com wrote: Tough call to use that as an example here. As a celeb STAR_ is the reason people would be playing on the server. Soon as he leaves so would they. On 26 Jun 2014 14:52, Lucas Wagner lgwag...@gmail.com wrote: STAR_ has a video where he is demoing the Tide Turner where this apparently happened. He crashed (presumably on his server) on a full server and immediately reconnected to find the server had about 10 people. You might look at it to find clues. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Frequent TF2 client crashes... any known triggers?
Are you allowing anything crazy broken like the new stock TF2 taunts? Thanks, Kyle. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Peter Jerde peter-h...@jerde.net wrote: We've been having upwards of half of our players all crash at the same time, seemingly at random. He have some funky plugins that might be contributing to it, so I'm curious if others are seeing the same thing on vanilla servers as well. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
