[HOT] Small Red Cross task
Hi All, I'm currently in Nepal conducting a participatory assessment with the Nepal Red Cross. We're using OSM to collect participatory GIS data and have realized that the current base map is a little sparse on land uses, etc. that would help the community orient and locate key data. More details are up on the task below. We were hoping that the HOT community could help us out with the task at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/643. It's a really small task and hopefully a nice break from some of the more intense tasks that have gone up for all the recent disasters. This is obviously lower priority than Ebola work etc., but I figured it might be a nice break for some and wanted to post it here. Any help over the coming days would be most appreciated! Best, Robert Robert Banick | Asia GIS Officer | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian layer as an ArcGIS basemap?
You can also do this in QGIS by editing the python code. Claire, if that's of
interest to your teams I think Vivien Depardey posted instructions in this
forum 2 years ago or so.
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From: Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.commailto:brad.neuhau...@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:11 PM
To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org
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Subject: Re: [HOT] OSM humanitarian layer as an ArcGIS basemap?
If you're adding OSM to ArcGIS as a Basemap, it looks like those are provided
through ESRI's ArcGIS Online. They might consider adding more options to those,
but I doubt it'd be anytime soon.
Other options:
1) Adding the Humanitarian layer using ArcGIS Online. You can get the basic
idea here:
http://blogs.esri.com/esri/arcgis/2013/04/01/using-stamen-and-mapbox-tilesets-as-basemaps-in-arcgis-com/
2) There's an ArcGIS addon called ArcBruTile (http://arcbrutile.codeplex.com/)
which has a larger list of TMS services to add, including all the standard OSM
layers...except Humanitarian. :( You can't seem to add services on your own,
but they have added services on request (added osm.frhttp://osm.fr by request
in May)
Cheers,
Brad
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Paul Norman
penor...@mac.commailto:penor...@mac.com wrote:
On 9/10/2014 8:25 AM, Claire Halleux wrote:
In case anyone of you would be using OSM basemap in ArcGIS 10 and would know
some details about it... people involved in mapping DRC Ebola emergency are
currently looking for those informations:
- is it possible to change the standard OSM layer to the humanitarian layer in
ArcGIS and how?
It should be possible to add a layer. I don't know ArcGIS, but you want to add
a TMS layer, and the URLs are something like
http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.fr/hot/{z}/{x}/{y}.pnghttp://tile.openstreetmap.fr/hot/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png
- what is the exact frequency of WMS refresh (think it's daily but not
confirmed and when exactly)?
The layer is not a WMS layer, but a TMS layer. Data is consumed minutely, but
it uses a standard tile cache/tile store setup where it stores previously
rendered tiles and re-renders them when updated. Thus there is no guarantee of
currency. In general, it will behave the same as the Standard layer on
OpenStreetMap.org
- it often happens that the software doesn't properly load the tiles,
displaying some tiles from different zoom levels, even with a good Internet
connection (maybe the cache?), how to avoid this issue?
I understand the server has been at 100% usage lately
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Re: [HOT] Small Red Cross task
I should add that we will be collecting place names, building types and all the other local detail you'd expect as time allows and clean up whatever's left afterwards. Robert Banick | Asia GIS Officer | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Banick, Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Date: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:57 AM To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Small Red Cross task Hi All, I'm currently in Nepal conducting a participatory assessment with the Nepal Red Cross. We're using OSM to collect participatory GIS data and have realized that the current base map is a little sparse on land uses, etc. that would help the community orient and locate key data. More details are up on the task below. We were hoping that the HOT community could help us out with the task at http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/643. It's a really small task and hopefully a nice break from some of the more intense tasks that have gone up for all the recent disasters. This is obviously lower priority than Ebola work etc., but I figured it might be a nice break for some and wanted to post it here. Any help over the coming days would be most appreciated! Best, Robert Robert Banick | Asia GIS Officer | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OSM Community mapping in flood prone areas in Malawi
Hi Sev, Great post and awesome work. It’s all very exciting, especially as it’s a great opportunity for Emir and Maning to bring some cross-regional insights to the project (and bring them back home in turn). I know it’s a ways off, but I’d be really interested to hear how the InaSAFE training goes in September. Do keep writing! Cheers, Robert From: Severin Menard [mailto:severin.men...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2014 3:17 AM To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] OSM Community mapping in flood prone areas in Malawi Hi, I published yesterday a blog post about the HOT project in Malawi in which Maning, Emir and I will be involved: http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2014-08-02_project_in_malawi_starts_in_the_field We will be able to replicate and emphasize what happened a few months ago in Lubumbashi, DRC with an interaction between the HOT-OSM worldwide community and Hotties in the field, teaching government, local authorities and local communities to use OSM for mapping and more specifically this time crisis preparedness, as the areas of interests are flood prone along the Shire river. We will also set OSM Community mobilizers that will be identified throughout the project to continue the mapping and the interaction in the future. I get back soon as mentioned in the blog post with a first TM job and presets to make evolve. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Boosting LearnOSM
Paul is saying that the OSM wiki license is actually more restrictive than LearnOSM, so it’s a problem with that license. We would have to make our license more restrictive – and hence less useful to others – if we wanted to go that way. Which is super frustrating of course. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Rafael Avila Coya [mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:47 AM To: Paul Norman Cc: HOT@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Boosting LearnOSM Yes. But you can't use data from the OSM wiki for the LearnOSM project, if I am not wrong. El 31/07/2014 09:26, Paul Norman penor...@mac.commailto:penor...@mac.com escribió: On 7/30/2014 5:04 PM, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: Maybe it would be feasible to change the license of LearnOSM to the OSM Wiki license. As not many people are involved (I think) in the English original version, not many people would have to be asked for. LearnOSM is licensed CC0, so no permission is needed to take it and redistribute as CC BY-SA, or to redistribute as any license, including a non-open one. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Admin level 2 for CAR and Malawi
GADM's ultimate origins are also one of the great mysteries of the GIS world. GADM's maintainer is notoriously un-responsive to requests so I wouldn't hold your breath about getting open data licensed information that way. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Paul Norman penor...@mac.commailto:penor...@mac.com Date: Saturday, July 5, 2014 1:26 PM To: Nadeem Sardar nadeem_...@yahoo.commailto:nadeem_...@yahoo.com, Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Admin level 2 for CAR and Malawi GADM is under a non-commercial license and thus not open data, or compatible with OpenStreetMap. On 2014-07-03 9:34 PM, Nadeem Sardar wrote: here you can look at following sources. Global Administrative Areas | Boundaries without limitshttp://www.gadm.org/ [image]http://www.gadm.org/ Global Administrative Areas | Boundaries without limitshttp://www.gadm.org/ GADM is a spatial database of the location of the world's administrative areas (or adminstrative boundaries) for use in GIS and similar software. View on www.gadm.orghttp://www.gadm.org/ Preview by Yahoo GeoCommonshttp://geocommons.com/ ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Ebola Re-Activation
I've noticed that not only relations but also large land uses can cause opacity issues in iD. Perhaps we should log a feature request on the iD github page to modify the opacity of selected features? Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Reply-To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 8:14 PM To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Ebola Re-Activation Sorry Marcos, It should be ok now. I did not know that these relations could create such problems in Editors like ID. I deleted the relation that we dont need once the Task manager is created. And as Andrew was saying me, next time we should simply remove the type=multipolygon on the relation to avoid such opacity effects. Pierre De : Marcos Oliveira marcosoliveira.2...@gmail.commailto:marcosoliveira.2...@gmail.com À : Cc : hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Lundi 23 juin 2014 9h31 Objet : Re: [HOT] Ebola Re-Activation Hello, I wanted to let you know that the HOT Tasking Manager multipolygonhttps://i.imgur.com/JXEAMJC.png is currently making the map rather opaquehttps://i.imgur.com/AL1iwhd.png in iD. It should look like thishttps://i.imgur.com/9gX2kGk.png. As such, I wanted to know if it's possible to turn it transparent. -- Um Abraço, Marcos Oliveira ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Activation WG Kick-Off Meeting
Mikel, I think the class is actually wrapping up - I'm taking the lack of noise from Harry et al as a sign that we didn't have any eager takers from the students. A pity. Harry, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Reply-To: mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, June 16, 2014 6:27 PM To: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation WG Kick-Off Meeting Thanks for the sum up Sev and the productive meeting. Robert, shall you and I see if the UCL class may be able to contribute by starting a documentation process? Anyone else want to coordinate to take up the documentation action? -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:02 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I created the OSM wikipage to wrap-up what has been discussed and decided during the meeting, you can find it from here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/Working_groups/Activation The next one will occur on Tuesday, July 8, 2PM UTC, but there are a lot to do in the meantime, check the Action points. Sincerely, Severin [http://ws-stats.appspot.com/ga/pixel.png?yes__count=true%20e=legacy_impression] On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: So the winner is Tuesday 10, 6 PM UTC. As I expect the meeting to last a bit more than one hour, other people will be able to join from 7PM. Looking forward to chat with all of you! Sincerely, Severin On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I just received an email from an OSM contributor asking if he could attend this meeting. Sorry if it was not clear, but yes, ANYONE interested can participate. It will be on IRC (#hot channel on OFTC) so that the people not fluent to talk in English can participate by chatting. If you are not familiar with IRC, you can use HexChat for Windows or Xchat for Ubuntu as client, or, if you prefer something easier, just join: http://irc.openstreetmap.orghttp://irc.openstreetmap.org/ Sincerely, Severin On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Last hours to fill the Doodle if you are interested to participate to the Activation Working Group Kick-Off Meeting: closes at 8PM UTC. http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC
Yeah, what Mikel said. It’s good to document things with fresh eyes, you assume a lot less. As I proposed before, it’s up to us to be engaged and provide that humanitarian + activation context to their work. Harry, Andrew Braye from the British Red Cross and Ivan from MSF gave them a nice walkthrough. We’ll see if any students take up the challenge. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 From: Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 7:09 AM To: Severin Menard; Banick, Robert Cc: Kunce, Dale; hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC @Robert What kind of document this class will exactly produce, as they do not have any humanitarian nor activation experience? Possibly a document that's clear and understandable, no matter what your experience level. When it comes to documenting a process, it can be an asset to have to learn and understand a new domain, because the explanation will mirror your own learning experience. We often know too much about what we are trying to explain to have sufficient distance to know what needs to be explained, and the result can be unclear and full of assumptions. I think the work on the LearnOSM translation guide is a good example of when this approach can work. -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:20 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I renewed the Doodle for the AWG Kick-Off meeting, as many (including myself) could not attend the meeting on IRC last Friday: http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i @Robert What kind of document this class will exactly produce, as they do not have any humanitarian nor activation experience? Sincerely, Severin On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: OK. Just a heads up to everyone that Harry Wood, Andrew Braye and perhaps Nick Allen are presenting to the UCL How to Save the World class on HOT, the Red Cross etc. As I suggested previously, we're asking the class to help document some of the work that goes on during and around activations. Nick, Russell Deffner and I talked this through on IRC in lieu of a full working group meeting. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | • American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick -Original Message- From: Severin Menard [mailto:severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:21 AM To: Banick, Robert Cc: Mark Cupitt; Kunce, Dale; hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC Hi all, Sorry for not having been present yesterday for the meeting, but there was no internet at all (wired, 3G, nor Edge) last night in Koudougou, Burkina where I am. Yes, I will create a new Doodle for next week. Sincerely, Severin On 5/30/14, Banick, Robert h@e wrote: Hi Sev, all, The activation meeting didn't quite come off this afternoon. Russell Deffner, Nick Allen and I had some good chats but nothing definite. Perhaps we could reschedule for next week? Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:58 AM To: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Cc: Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC Hi all, So the best slot seems to be on Friday 30, 9PM UTC. Looking forward to meet you on IRC #hot. Anybody can read/comment on the dedicated Hackpad: https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir Sincerely, Severin On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, It is possible, I just did it. Sincerely, Severin On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup
Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC
OK. Just a heads up to everyone that Harry Wood, Andrew Braye and perhaps Nick Allen are presenting to the UCL How to Save the World class on HOT, the Red Cross etc. As I suggested previously, we're asking the class to help document some of the work that goes on during and around activations. Nick, Russell Deffner and I talked this through on IRC in lieu of a full working group meeting. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick -Original Message- From: Severin Menard [mailto:severin.men...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:21 AM To: Banick, Robert Cc: Mark Cupitt; Kunce, Dale; hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC Hi all, Sorry for not having been present yesterday for the meeting, but there was no internet at all (wired, 3G, nor Edge) last night in Koudougou, Burkina where I am. Yes, I will create a new Doodle for next week. Sincerely, Severin On 5/30/14, Banick, Robert h@e wrote: Hi Sev, all, The activation meeting didn't quite come off this afternoon. Russell Deffner, Nick Allen and I had some good chats but nothing definite. Perhaps we could reschedule for next week? Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:58 AM To: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Cc: Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC Hi all, So the best slot seems to be on Friday 30, 9PM UTC. Looking forward to meet you on IRC #hot. Anybody can read/comment on the dedicated Hackpad: https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir Sincerely, Severin On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, It is possible, I just did it. Sincerely, Severin On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Severin, would it be possible to delete the dates prior to today on Doodle. Have to pan through a lot of old dates to see the availability on later dates. I'm not sure if Doodle lets you do that Cheers Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMaphttps://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mark_Cupitt See me on LinkedInhttp://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt [http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_myprofile_16 0x33.png] See me on StackExchangehttp://gis.stackexchange.com/users/17846/mark-c [http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/flair/17846.png] == = The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. == = On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Still trying to schedule the first AWG meeting. For those who showed their interest in the past but not added their availability since we had to reload the Doodle, please update it: http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i Seems there are different good slots starting on next Monday, so this should happen next week! People told me it it would be better to have the meeting on IRC on the #hot channel as everyone is not fluent enough in English to participate in a oral discussion on Mumble. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC
Hi Sev, all, The activation meeting didn't quite come off this afternoon. Russell Deffner, Nick Allen and I had some good chats but nothing definite. Perhaps we could reschedule for next week? Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 3:58 AM To: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Cc: Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Activation Working Group Doodle: Friday 30, 9PM UTC Hi all, So the best slot seems to be on Friday 30, 9PM UTC. Looking forward to meet you on IRC #hot. Anybody can read/comment on the dedicated Hackpad: https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir Sincerely, Severin On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, It is possible, I just did it. Sincerely, Severin On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Severin, would it be possible to delete the dates prior to today on Doodle. Have to pan through a lot of old dates to see the availability on later dates. I'm not sure if Doodle lets you do that Cheers Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMaphttps://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mark_Cupitt See me on LinkedInhttp://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt [http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_myprofile_160x33.png] See me on StackExchangehttp://gis.stackexchange.com/users/17846/mark-c [http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/flair/17846.png] === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Still trying to schedule the first AWG meeting. For those who showed their interest in the past but not added their availability since we had to reload the Doodle, please update it: http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i Seems there are different good slots starting on next Monday, so this should happen next week! People told me it it would be better to have the meeting on IRC on the #hot channel as everyone is not fluent enough in English to participate in a oral discussion on Mumble. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group
Hi Sev, I can't see the doodle for some reason? Can you check that it's working? Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:42 AM To: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Cc: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Hi all, So I added more days, hoping this time we can find again a slot that fits most of the people interested, I think it is important to have the max of them involved as Activation is really core for HOT : http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i @Mark and all, yes of course in the meantime everyone can contribute on the Hackpad: https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir Sincerely, Severin On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Severin, why not just encourage discussion using hackpad for now whilst waiting for the meeting to get organized. https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir Cheers Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMaphttps://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mark_Cupitt See me on LinkedInhttp://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt [http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_myprofile_160x33.png] See me on StackExchangehttp://gis.stackexchange.com/users/17846/mark-c [http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/flair/17846.png] === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, The issue is that there is no super good slot in the new agenda and not everyone filled it again. Best so far is only 5 people tomorrow on Thursday at 8AM GMT (what is not a good time for America), only max 4 people otherwise. Thoughts? Sincerely, Severin On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi Sev et al, Did this ever come together? If so I’d like to add something to the agenda. If not can I suggest yet another doodle and a deadline of next Wed. at latest for the next meeting? Just to get things moving. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017tel:202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679tel:202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.commailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:08 PM To: Severin Menard Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Severin, Sorry, I was very slow filling in doodle - waited until I heard when the communications working group meeting would be. I've added my details now, but I will probably not be available when the meeting takes place. I will forward a few ideas to you before the meeting if I can't make it. Regards Nick Volunteer 'Tallguy' for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy Treasurer, website Bonus Ball admin for http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ (treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.ukmailto:treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk) On 8 May 2014 13:40, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Just figuring out this time slot is actually exactly the same than the Communication Working Group! As I guess I am not the only one that would like to participated to these two WG, so I reopen the Doodlehttp://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i. Maybe propose everyone will confirm there that same day same hour next week will fit. Sorry for the confusion. Sincerely, Seveirn On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, According to the Doodle, the time slot that, by far, suited most of people interested by the Activation Working Group is Friday 9 (tomorrow) at 2
Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group
Hi Sev et al, Did this ever come together? If so I’d like to add something to the agenda. If not can I suggest yet another doodle and a deadline of next Wed. at latest for the next meeting? Just to get things moving. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:08 PM To: Severin Menard Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Severin, Sorry, I was very slow filling in doodle - waited until I heard when the communications working group meeting would be. I've added my details now, but I will probably not be available when the meeting takes place. I will forward a few ideas to you before the meeting if I can't make it. Regards Nick Volunteer 'Tallguy' for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy Treasurer, website Bonus Ball admin for http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ (treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.ukmailto:treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk) On 8 May 2014 13:40, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Just figuring out this time slot is actually exactly the same than the Communication Working Group! As I guess I am not the only one that would like to participated to these two WG, so I reopen the Doodlehttp://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i. Maybe propose everyone will confirm there that same day same hour next week will fit. Sorry for the confusion. Sincerely, Seveirn On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, According to the Doodle, the time slot that, by far, suited most of people interested by the Activation Working Group is Friday 9 (tomorrow) at 2 PM GMT (means 10AM EDT and 4PM CEST), so the meeting on Mumblehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble will happen at that time. Here is the Hackpadhttps://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir. Anyone interested, please join! Sincerely, Severin On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Among the reactivated Working Groups, here is the Activation Working Group. Activations are more and more numerous and successful with a increasing number of contributors. The results are really impressive, but we can certainly do even better. As for the Communication Working group (for those interested, please fill ASAP its Doodlehttp://doodle.com/3545epmy63x72gvk) we could start with a kick-off meeting on Mumblehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble, and here is a Doodle to set it: http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i http://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i This meeting and the ones that will follow aim at being a time to exchange on this thrilling topic, review the experiences, documents, procedures and set goals to be achieved for the next meeting. Because yes, a Working Group is a group that works, that means between the meetings. And actually, it is already happening: eg there are (more and more) people working on data validation, both through setting procedures and monitoring the freshly created data. I see 4 main topics around the Activation (but would be pleased to get other suggestions): 1. All the activities and documents involved in an Activation. In the past the Activation Working Groups mostly focused on how Activations are triggered and start, what we could review based on the last experiences. Crisis monitoring is certainly something we could add, in order not to forget crisis of smaller range or simply not highly covered by the medias. Also technical aspects like: define and prioritize AOIs (Areas of Interests) and mapping goals, track and monitor the mapping progresses, and set thin, flexible and efficient processes, tools, and wiki templates, etc. But also share and document how to maintain and even grow the contribution of the OSM contributors and communities, by communicating with them (like this Working Group will do), proposing more different kinds of tasks to do or setting joint events. 2. The beneficiaries, that means the humanitarian stakeholders. We need both to make them aware of the data we produce and to make the data useful and easy to use for them, taking more into account their needs, constraints and tools. I got recent feedback from the GIS officers in the UN that I will share. 3. The data. What needs to be mapped is quite known, but how to do it to make it as clean and efficient as possible. That links to the mapping instructions and the validationhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data but also to how the data can be reused by the humanitarian stakeholders. There a lot of potential
Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group
Hi Sev and Mark, Those numbers are difficult, yes. Tomorrow is a little last minute for me, but perhaps we can try one more time and move forward regardless of how many people are present? The Technical Working Group doesn't always get that many people either, so I'm OK with moving forward with a smaller group if you all are. I'll bring up my prospective agenda item here tomorrow. Bedtime now. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:02 PM To: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Cc: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Hi Severin, why not just encourage discussion using hackpad for now whilst waiting for the meeting to get organized. https://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working-Group-TlksNOhVdir Cheers Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on Open StreetMaphttps://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mark_Cupitt See me on LinkedInhttp://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt [http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_myprofile_160x33.png] See me on StackExchangehttp://gis.stackexchange.com/users/17846/mark-c [http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/flair/17846.png] === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, The issue is that there is no super good slot in the new agenda and not everyone filled it again. Best so far is only 5 people tomorrow on Thursday at 8AM GMT (what is not a good time for America), only max 4 people otherwise. Thoughts? Sincerely, Severin On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi Sev et al, Did this ever come together? If so I’d like to add something to the agenda. If not can I suggest yet another doodle and a deadline of next Wed. at latest for the next meeting? Just to get things moving. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017tel:202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679tel:202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.commailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:08 PM To: Severin Menard Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Activation Working Group Severin, Sorry, I was very slow filling in doodle - waited until I heard when the communications working group meeting would be. I've added my details now, but I will probably not be available when the meeting takes place. I will forward a few ideas to you before the meeting if I can't make it. Regards Nick Volunteer 'Tallguy' for https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tallguy Treasurer, website Bonus Ball admin for http://www.6thswanleyscouts.org.uk/ (treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.ukmailto:treasu...@6thswanleyscouts.org.uk) On 8 May 2014 13:40, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, Just figuring out this time slot is actually exactly the same than the Communication Working Group! As I guess I am not the only one that would like to participated to these two WG, so I reopen the Doodlehttp://doodle.com/hpwkwqiregdi7b6i. Maybe propose everyone will confirm there that same day same hour next week will fit. Sorry for the confusion. Sincerely, Seveirn On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, According to the Doodle, the time slot that, by far, suited most of people interested by the Activation Working Group is Friday 9 (tomorrow) at 2 PM GMT (means 10AM EDT and 4PM CEST), so the meeting on Mumblehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mumble will happen at that time. Here is the Hackpadhttps://hackpad.com/HOT-Activation-Working
Re: [HOT] Valparaíso, Chile Fires Response / Respuesta a Fuegos en Valparaíso, Chile
Fantastic stuff Andrew. Julio, may I ask whether anyone from OSM Chile is in touch with ONEMI or any other response agencies in Chile? Surely Andrew's analysis would be of value to them. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 -Original Message- From: Andrew Buck [mailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:45 AM To: Banick, Robert; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team); Julio Costa Zambelli Subject: Re: [HOT] Valparaíso, Chile Fires Response / Respuesta a Fuegos en Valparaíso, Chile -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey everyone, I spoke for a couple hours on skype screenshare with Álvaro Monares who is local to Chile and we made some progress on situational awareness for this response. Most importantly, there is a satelite image posted online taken the 13th of April (right while the fire was burning but before it got to the populated areas). Although the license of the image is not suitable for tracing in OSM I did load it up in QGIS and traced 3 very rough polygons around where the fire area burned as of the 13th. I then uploaded these polygons to a umap layer that we can use to plan out where to focus our mapping efforts. The map below shows the definite burned areas in red and the areas we are pretty sure burned on the 14th in yellow (click on the areas for more details). You can also see the blue dotted lines showing the two task manager jobs already created for this job (click on the blue dotted lines for links to these jobs). Here is the link to the umap: http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/valparaiso_7318#14/-33.0707/-71.6116 We also downloaded several Landsat 8 images to try to map landuse and to see what could be seen. There is a mostly cloud free image (at least for the area we are interested in) from about a week before the fire but that still just shows the forest and whatnot the same as we see in the Bing imagery. More interesting is a LandSat 8 image taken the 15th, however there is a cloud mass covering exactly the area we are interested in for that image. The next Landsat pass will be on April 22nd so we will have to wait a few days before that imagery becomes available. We should monitor this situation and process this image as soon as it becomes available. We also checked through the MODIS daily fire map data and landuse data, however this is too low resolution to be of use (500 meters per pixel). Finally, we downloaded the ASTER elevation data for the area. Since the areas that burned are very hilly terrain with lots of steep canyons and valleys, there will now be a very high risk of flash flooding, soil erosion, and landslides in the area where the fire burned. I used the ASTER elevation file to produce a slope map and then downloaded the OSM building data and for each building I had QGIS calculate the slope of the ground that the building sits on. This will allow us to see where there are buildings in areas at risk for landslides and we can do a similar analysis to see where buildings might be at risk of flash flooding. These high risk areas should receive special attention in the mapping process to help recovery teams work safely in the affected areas. Good work to everyone so far on the tracing. The first job is almost completely done and the second was at about 60% I think. I am going to bed for the night, but I will take another look at the QGIS analysis tomorrow to see what I can put together for a risk assessment. - -AndrewBuck -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTThjVAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbS1wP/iYmjQfB+bnl8hEnjXr3ZqTz fzDkq7VeUfL5yXiZ14Nr9rQZP55yvmfa1OghxLNY9WXqwkiV3emp2N9MIDXxS23M mcPXKv6vCvNEcjs6qBuCoPMCdxntvKS1t3GuHizzZBu8+4Cv1PF2LRlf+CJ//pv5 QceteG24LlDVwmND5aNSVmEb2N0aENzyrrcLdMz/8V29OUdu7RixE2Tl/aeSi8sd GaAH/I/c96g9ASCaTuF1YeVcmKvrADzDI/uw2c9u0fULudhfJZiVUuNu740ODEhA lDybhMj4ctt5P1WvTVEQEExkaoWc4SbxexS/DZQyYBPkqhuh3k3ZZ24H8lSz9j+T gRxysqkUErcCfHhNDb3IJREhqMNbj6L04rvoLj0l5Md5QxVCmVre4WcW3O+uJ10R fHXunNbBB5aysF4+4om2suuekcKwKrIp1vGQOZKNZbtxobAVkPT6Un5AFgQmhiNM tpyVa/oF6wkc7MfLqIP248cE01YsVMLPFSr4g7oafKC1i3Y+HS1mmp38e4PS+tfQ s/JYsclIGq/Yc7dSkM0KWMcXjWkLpv3LmkMRnze/JYmhVOvyDHqzwDYrGz9yuF7Q 8ihWoZlJnN+pN5K98mc3lln+q8ydiFJjF2eAIAhmPZQ5nncsMAuS6AOPdm7J+EFP Eh0rmeDDmN8h90CxcfJp =aL+/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Valparaíso, Chile Fires Response / Respuesta a Fuegos en Valparaíso, Chile
Reposting to the general hot listserv English Hi All, At the request of the Chilean OpenStreetMap community we have organized in response to the devastating fires affecting Valparaiso, Chile. I've posted a task with an AOI provided by the Chilean community at: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/502. Please start tracing! Cheers, Robert Español Bienvendos a todo el mundo, En respuesta a la pedida de la comunidad chilean de OpenStreetMap, estamos respondiendo a los fuegos devastadores afectando Valparaíso, Chile. He pegado una tarea con el AOI proveído por la comunidad chilean en: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/502. Por favor, empieza de hacer tracing! Saludos, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Task 502 changeset comments
Thanks Johnny, that's a good suggestion. I'll stick that in there now. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 4/14/14 12:11 AM, Johnny Morbonovsky johnny_mo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I just started on Task 502 and noticed there's no suggested changeset comment or source tag, like most tasks have. I've been using Valparaíso, Chile Fires, #hotosm-task-502 for my changesets. just, FYI. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Valparaíso, Chile Fires Response / Respuesta a Fuegos en Valparaíso, Chile
Dear HOTties and OSM Chilenos, After some fantastic work from SOTM US hackathon day attendees, the Valparaíso hills tracing task is 80% mapped. We encourage other HOTties and OSMers to join the task and help us turn that number to 100%. So many thanks to the SOTM US attendees (and others!) who have taken it this far. Cheers, Robert Español Queridos HOTties y OSM Chilenos, Después de mucho trabajo fantástico por los SOTM US día de hackathon asistentes, las colinas de Valparaíso afectado por el fuego están 80% mapeado. Encorajamos otros HOTties y gente de OSM a juntar con el trabajo y ayúdanos a cambiar ese numero a 100%. Muchísmas gracias a los asistentes de SOTM (y otros!) que ya han hecho todo este trabajo. Saludos, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 From: Banick, Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Date: Monday, April 14, 2014 8:58 AM To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Valparaíso, Chile Fires Response / Respuesta a Fuegos en Valparaíso, Chile Reposting to the general hot listserv English Hi All, At the request of the Chilean OpenStreetMap community we have organized in response to the devastating fires affecting Valparaiso, Chile. I've posted a task with an AOI provided by the Chilean community at: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/502. Please start tracing! Cheers, Robert Español Bienvendos a todo el mundo, En respuesta a la pedida de la comunidad chilean de OpenStreetMap, estamos respondiendo a los fuegos devastadores afectando Valparaíso, Chile. He pegado una tarea con el AOI proveído por la comunidad chilean en: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/502. Por favor, empieza de hacer tracing! Saludos, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT #ChileFire map - Fwd: [info-hotosm] Please add more areas in Valparaíso, Chile Fires
Hey Julio, It doesn't quite work that way. Once the task is set up, it's set up. I'll set up a new task and hopefully not kill the tasking manager this time (sorry Drazen!). Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.clmailto:julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl Date: Monday, April 14, 2014 4:52 PM To: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.orgmailto:nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org nicolas.chav...@hotosm.orgmailto:nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Cc: Felipe Raimann felipea...@gmail.commailto:felipea...@gmail.com, Personal rban...@gmail.commailto:rban...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT #ChileFire map - Fwd: [info-hotosm] Please add more areas in Valparaíso, Chile Fires I will modify the polygon (way 274083880 ) for the task accordingly. Julio Costa Zambelli Fundación OpenStreetMap Chile julio.co...@openstreetmap.clmailto:julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ Cel: +56(9)89981083 On 14 April 2014 16:24, nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@hotosm.orgmailto:nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org wrote: Forwarding additional AOIs passed to the info@hotosm list by Felipe for consideration and action- -- Forwarded message -- From: Felipe Raimann felipea...@gmail.commailto:felipea...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:19 PM Subject: [info-hotosm] Please add more areas in Valparaíso, Chile Fires To: i...@hotosm.orgmailto:i...@hotosm.org Dear HOT Team, I am a chilean OSM mapper. I saw your tasks around the emergency in Valparaíso but there are a few hills without cover that currently are in fire (I do not know how to say that but I think you can understand it). The places are mainly: Cerro Ramaditas[1], Cerro Rocuant[2] and his street Cuesta Colorada[3]. You can check this for ourselves in National Television of Chile[4] where says Rocuant, Ramaditas and Cuesta Colorada are in alert due to the propagation of fire in the area. The emergency in this areas has appeared since yesterday. Take the time you need to add this areas, but please consider them. Best regards, Felipe [1] http://osm.org/go/MaJXc6Rdh-?node=2789034799 [2] http://osm.org/go/MaJXaY6H?node=2789051258 [3] http://osm.org/go/MaJXYi3g--?way=25647176 [4] http://www.24horas.cl/nacional/dramatico-rescate-de-hombre-atrapado-por-las-llamas-1180261 -- -- Nicolas Chavent Acting Project Director Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20tel:%2B33%20%280%296%2052%2040%2078%2020 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.orgmailto:nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] A week in Lubumbashi
Seconded, thank you so much for sharing Jorieke. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: nicolas chavent [mailto:nicolas.chav...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:22 AM To: Jorieke Vyncke Cc: Claire Halleux; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) Subject: Re: [HOT] A week in Lubumbashi Hi Jorieke, Thank for your email to the list, your thorough blog posts about how your week fit into what was already built around OSM in DRC over the past year thanks to Pierre and Claire hard wrok and how it opens up new avenues and territories for OSM in 2014 with MSF UK their University partners in Lubumbashi and the local mappers born in OSM the past weeks. Let's all keep up this excellent piece of glocal collective and open field work in DRC. Excellent day to all Nico On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.commailto:jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Heather, hi folks, Thanks a lot for sending my post to the mailing list, Heather. It was indeed a fantastic experience for me as well! Further I would love to thank everybody again for the huge support from everywhere in the world! Tonight I was skyping with two of the Congolese mappers, and they go on with their data collection. They could mannage a bigger room as office space and are looking now how to optimize their own work in Lubumbashi and the bigger province of Katanga, and they are as well looking how they can contribute to other mapping projects by the Tasking Manager. So a promising sequel... And in addition, some pictures of our field work in Lubumbashi! https://www.flickr.com/photos/122157964@N04/sets/72157643320371505/ Thanks again for all the support for this brand new community! All the best, Jorieke 2014-04-02 22:55 GMT+02:00 Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.commailto:heatherle...@gmail.com: Hi Folks, Jorieke posted her blog article about the fantastic work in the DRC. Many of you have also contributed to this effort. The article was not posted to the mailing list so I am sharing as they deserve some extra HOT recognition. Well done! en francais: http://hot.openstreetmap.org/node/285 English: http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2014-04-01_a_week_in_lubumbashi_drc Thank you a million times over for being so inspiring, Heather Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.commailto:heatherle...@gmail.com Twitter: HeatherLeson Blog: textontechs.comhttp://textontechs.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Nicolas Chavent Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://hot.openstreetmap.org/ Mobile (FRA): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 Email: nicolas.chav...@hotosm.orgmailto:nicolas.chav...@hotosm.org Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.commailto:nicolas.chav...@gmail.com Skype: c_nicolas Twitter: nicolas_chavent ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF
I like the idea of a short blog post that can reach potential contributors who
aren't following our mailing list. We have to remember that not everyone is as
engaged as us when it comes to following mailing lists. Like Joseph said, it
gives people something to link to (like me, tweeting, for instance). If we can
reach even one more contributor then surely that's a good thing.
It doesn't seem particularly important an to me who does it, but I don't think
that anything should go out without the full endorsement of the activation
leads, since they have to own it. I understand that the organizers of this
activation are already quite busy and like Heather's compromise of pulling
together text that can be edited and approved by the activations leads.
Thoughts?
Definitely something for a later working group to hammer out in more detail
though.
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From: mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
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mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:14 AM
To: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com,
Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.commailto:heatherle...@gmail.com
Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org
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Subject: Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF
Good point Severin. We don't actually have a clear guideline or common
understanding written up on our customs and practices when it comes to
blogging, blogging and activation, and activations generally. This is a mandate
we can bring to appropriate working groups (activation, communications) to make
clear.
For the current blog post, I think it's great Heather is supporting this by
helping coordinate. I don't see any issue with whoever is appropriate taking
authorship of a collaborative post.
-Mikel
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:35 AM, Severin Menard
severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Heather,
The custom is more the people leading the Activation post on the blog, with a
bit more context and past/current/coming activities.
Actually, it has not been decided if it is an official HOT activation or a
simple monitoring, and who is leading it. I just initiated the very beginning
but I am not very available and Pierre and Andrew have run the activities. How
do you feel to monitor this, guys? Amadou, who I think has already visited
Guinea and train people there on OSM, could also help if interested and
available.
Sincerely,
Severin
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Heather Leson
heatherle...@gmail.commailto:heatherle...@gmail.com wrote:
Morning, I started a draft blog post about this activation. Can you help edit?
I'm at work and would need someone to help lead curate the right content. This
will help with our wider outreach.
I'll circle back in 3 hours and post it to the blog.
https://docs.google.com/a/hotosm.org/document/d/1I5IW9Twdx-HPGAb2w7iJ17CXtvWAIDfvmj02kg45ECI/edit
Thank you
Heather
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Pierre Béland
pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Hi Jean-Marc
Did not have my breakfeast yet. We are completing the description of the three
Task Manager jobs.
Imagery for JOSM
http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_msf_pleiades1a/{zoom}/{x}/{y}http://imagery.openstreetmap.fr/tms/1.0.0/guinee_msf_pleiades1a/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D
Pierre
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Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] Guinea Ebola Outbreak, Mapping to support MSF
On 26/03/2014 12:23, Pierre Béland wrote:
Following the Ebola outbreak, MSF Switzearland needs rapidly maps of three
towns. Thy are requesting since this area is actually unmapped. New imagery
have been obtained.
Could you please point to that imagery ?
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Re: [HOT] *** Emergency Request *** Guinea Conakry- Gueckedou, Macenta, Kissidougou
Hi All,
Just a heads up that the International Federation of the Red Cross is deploying
health experts to Guinea now and will likely seek mapping support. We're still
unsure of exact AOIs and needs but we'll likely find value in some of the
tracing requested by MSF. As I learn more I will communicate more to the group,
likely within 1-2 days time. Thanks to everyone who's been involved in this
deployment to date.
Best,
Robert
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From: Amadou ndongama...@gmail.commailto:ndongama...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:06 AM
To: Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.commailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com
Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org
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Subject: Re: [HOT] *** Emergency Request *** Guinea Conakry- Gueckedou,
Macenta, Kissidougou
Hi Andrew,
right. i'am connected now.
thanks.
Le 25 mars 2014 à 10:59, Andrew Buck
andrew.r.b...@gmail.commailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com a écrit :
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Hey Amadou,
You should connect to mumble. There are already several of us on there.
- -AndrewBuck
On 03/25/2014 04:43 AM, Amadou wrote:
Hi Uxue, the TMS link is given by Andrew here in the instructions
of the job (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/463). So you copy this :
tms[14]:http://tile.paulnorman.ca/landsat_200054/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
and in JOSM , go to Preferences-Image settings - TMS- then paste the
link in the first text aera and give a name (like Guinea landsat image)
and validate.
See screenshots in need. Restart JOSM and find your image source
named the given name you choosed (e.g Guinea Landsat image) and
voila!
Skype : ndongpotter
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Re: [HOT] Libraries without Borders - Ideas Box
Hi Yann, This is something that Frederik Ramm helped the Red Cross out with during the Typhoon Haiyan response. The code was a little rough and ready but perfectly functional for our needs. Really helped out a lot for our disconnected folks on the ground. Perhaps we could follow up with him to see how ready to go that project is right now? I've been meaning to do so for a while anyways. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 3/25/14 6:48 AM, Yohan Boniface yohan.bonif...@hotosm.org wrote: Hi all, I've been in contact (through uMap) with Libraries without Borders [1]. Among all the great things we talked about, they showed me a project they are running named Ideas Box [2]. Basically, the idea is to provide a minimum culture access for disaster situations (books, computers, Internet access, films...). They already provide some GPS in the box for mapping, but there is certainly more we can do with us. The first element we are thinking to is an offline map for the area around where the box will be shipped. I've started a pad [3] to start looking at the best technical options to do so. I've a next meeting with their tech guy at the end of next week where I will expose him those options. So please join the brainstorming if you feel :) Yohan [1] http://www.librarieswithoutborders.org/ [2] http://www.librarieswithoutborders.org/index.php/news-and-events/lwb-news/ item/291-the-ideas-box-a-tangible-response-for-the-intellectual-dimension- of-human-beings-in-emergency-situations [3] https://hackpad.com/Ideas-Box-map-vPU9StzGnf3 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage Assessment
Hi Dan, Thanks for this! We were disappointed to find the same thing -- the correlation is just not there. I think we need to focus heavily on the improvements in our recommendation section so we can nudge these numbers towards something more reasonable, because at present it's just not good. Best, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 2/16/14 4:47 PM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for pointing me to the raw data. I've run a crosstabulation (matching up objects by their osm ID) and it seems to look like this: nodamageddestroyed no85 82 63 partial170 119 111 major 173 160 196 total 88 31 70 This is rather disappointing - there is some correlation between the two types of annotation but a lot of noise. For example the osm 'no' category seems to be more likely to be _any_ of the other categories in your observations rather than 'no'! I quantified the predictability of one from the other (using mutual information) and it confirms this, comes out rather low. My analysis code is at https://gist.github.com/danstowell/9040956 - just a quick evening script, check it before relying on it... Best Dan 2014-02-14 14:53 GMT+00:00 Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org: Hi Dan, There's a download raw data button on the side of the website at americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment. Feel free to download and play with the data further -- and do contribute back anything new you find. We're running more intensive stats analysis on the data now and will be working that into the final report. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 2/14/14 4:18 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for this. It's great to have some concrete analysis of what we did, and the extent to which it's accurate. Is there a full cross-tabulation available of the numbers for building-osm-status vs building-true-status? In the report there's a table of over/underrepresentation, and some other stats, but it doesn't give me a complete summary of whether our errors were in the form of bias (e.g. consistently labelling things worse or better than they are) or variance (e.g. the labelling tends to be a bit random). I'd be really grateful if you could provide the full cross-table. Dan 2014-02-12 14:22 GMT+00:00 Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org: Dear HOT Communuity, The American Red Cross and the REACH Initiative are pleased to present an interim assessment report on the validity of the building damages assessed through OpenStreetMap in the weeks following Typhoon Haiyan. You can find a print copy attached and a more interactive website version at the above link. The results were unfortunately negative and underline real limitations in OpenStreetMap's ability to capture these results in the present. Neverthless, this report identifies strong promise in the OSM model of crowdsourcing and highlights the investments needed to make that potential possible. It's our sincere hope that funders, NGO partners and most especially the OpenStreetMap community will rally around these investments so that OSM can play an even stronger and more operationally useful role in future disaster responses. We are indebted to the US Agency for International Development's Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance (OFDA) for funding this assessment and look forward to future partnerships to improve the utility of open data and OpenStreetMap in particular for disaster response. With all the best, Robert Banick, Dale Kunce and Clay Westrope American Red Cross REACH Initiative Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006\ ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage Assessment
Hi Dan, There's a download raw data button on the side of the website at americanredcross.github.io/OSM-Assessment. Feel free to download and play with the data further -- and do contribute back anything new you find. We're running more intensive stats analysis on the data now and will be working that into the final report. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 2/14/14 4:18 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks for this. It's great to have some concrete analysis of what we did, and the extent to which it's accurate. Is there a full cross-tabulation available of the numbers for building-osm-status vs building-true-status? In the report there's a table of over/underrepresentation, and some other stats, but it doesn't give me a complete summary of whether our errors were in the form of bias (e.g. consistently labelling things worse or better than they are) or variance (e.g. the labelling tends to be a bit random). I'd be really grateful if you could provide the full cross-table. Dan 2014-02-12 14:22 GMT+00:00 Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org: Dear HOT Communuity, The American Red Cross and the REACH Initiative are pleased to present an interim assessment report on the validity of the building damages assessed through OpenStreetMap in the weeks following Typhoon Haiyan. You can find a print copy attached and a more interactive website version at the above link. The results were unfortunately negative and underline real limitations in OpenStreetMap's ability to capture these results in the present. Neverthless, this report identifies strong promise in the OSM model of crowdsourcing and highlights the investments needed to make that potential possible. It's our sincere hope that funders, NGO partners and most especially the OpenStreetMap community will rally around these investments so that OSM can play an even stronger and more operationally useful role in future disaster responses. We are indebted to the US Agency for International Development's Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance (OFDA) for funding this assessment and look forward to future partnerships to improve the utility of open data and OpenStreetMap in particular for disaster response. With all the best, Robert Banick, Dale Kunce and Clay Westrope American Red Cross REACH Initiative Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006\ ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage Assessment
study makes the assumption that the objective of the OpenStreetMap crowdsourcing was to make detailed assesments. ... The Red Cross study points to the fact that in most cases the limitation in damage assesment was the imagery that seemed to show undamaged buildings when in reality they had sustained damage. I'm not sure if this assumption is made or not, but I agree that the report is not totally clear on the context and objective in which HOT was engaged in damage assessment. A single sentence or two on that context in the executive summary could help. As well, inclusion of the points on imagery in the executive summary would be more representative of the conclusions. Btw, the report is in GitHub :) Not sure if ARC wants to respond to pull requests, but very possible to make fine tuned suggestions to there https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OSM-Assessment Cheers -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207tel:%2B14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:25 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Robert, In the early days after Typhoon Haiyan, there were estimations of 10,000 dead, severe damages and no communications with various remote areas. The humanitarian community as a whole needed even rough estimates of the extent and the distribution of the damages. The Coordination group where OCHA , US Red Cross and HOT participated right from the beginning of this intervention thought that OpenStreetMap should contribute to make Damage assesments. The objective was to make these assesments from Satellite imagery as soon as these would be available. The Red Cross study makes the assumption that the objective of the OpenStreetMap crowdsourcing was to make detailed assesments. But you can only make rough assesments from Satellite imagery especially when atmospheric conditions restrict the quality of the images provided. And a simple classification was used (ie. damaged or destroyed). UAV's (drones) or Aerial oblique imageries could have been used to make detailed assesments. But this was not part of the established workflow of the humanitarian community before Haiyan and such images were not available to make detailed assesments. Once such crisis are ended, we should surely analyze our actions and plan collectively for better interventions in the future. But we should avoid to have wrong conclusions about actions taken during this crisis. The way the report is written, it gives the impression that imprecision in evaluation of assesment is due to the use of the OpenStreetMap community. The humanitarian community as a whole did not build before this event the capacity to react rapidly, deploy teams and provide detailed post-disaster imagery in other ways then through Satellite. In the context of this emergency and with the imagery provided, would professionnals specialized in damage assesment have scored significantly better? Due to the limits of such assesments in the operational context of this operation, analysis should be based on the capacity to identify zones of high damages and not focus on individual houses. To my point of view, the objective of that operation following the severed damages after Typhoon Haiyan was to give an early warning to identify zones and not individual houses. This would need oblique imagery. Thinking about a better workflow in the context of such disasters, the capacity to have more flexibility and deploy rapidly teams when necessary to obtain either UAV imagery (drone) or aerial oblique imagery would surely give a different response, this either with the OpenStreetMap community or professionnals of damage assesment. We surely have a workflow to build and establish the role and limits of assesments done with aerial imagery in the context of such emergency operations. We should be careful to make the appropriate analysis and not demotivate the OpenStreetMap community who made such a huge effort for this activation. The Red Cross study points to the fact that in most cases the limitation in damage assesment was the imagery that seemed to show undamaged buildings when in reality they had sustained damage. But this is not reflected in the Executive summary and in the Conclusion of the study. This study should be completed with a better analysis of the type of imagery necessary to make better asssesment studies. Pierre De : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org À : hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Cc : Clay impact clay.westr...@impact-initiatives.orgmailto:clay.westr...@impact-initiatives.org; Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 12 février 2014 9h22 Objet : [HOT] Interim Report: Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Damage Assessment Dear HOT Communuity, The American Red Cross
Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
I agree, letting non-users see tasks and poke around the tasking manager would be very helpful and more in line with HOT's general orientation towards maximum openness besides. I also want to echo your thanks to Pierre Giraud — your flexibility and dedication have made so many good things possible. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Reply-To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:47 PM To: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org, Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com, k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch Hi Robert, Yes, if Validation was to be kept, the Invalidation step is essential to avoid uncontrolled situations were incompleted jobs are validated. We are discussing about implementing rapidly this version. But one functionality that would be important to add in this Version 1 is to allow people to look at the Task Manager job without providing an OSM Acccount, like it is now done in the future Version 2. To advocate about OSM Activations and usefulnes of the Task Manager, we generally provide the link to the Task Manager or to a specific job. It would be important, then, that outsiders can see the descriptions without being requested to provide an OSM account. This Task Manager is invaluable, with more then 280 jobs in 2013, for various mapping projects, support to local communities, humanitarian NGO's and for major Activations. This gives us the opportunity to work more closely with groups such as Red Cross and MSF and progress in a better response to the various humanitarian NGO's mapping needs. It also showed the capacity to escalate our response with the Philippines Typhoon in nov.2013. A lot of improvements have been made over the year. Thanks to Pierre Giraud that responded to our requests in context of Activations, helping to adapt the TM to various situtations. If we want to accelerate the development of the Task Manager and integrate other functionalities, including better monitoring for the coordinators, we should look in 2014 with our partners at ways to fund the development of the Task Manager. Pierre De : Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org À : Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com; Kate Chapman k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com Cc : HOT Openstreetmap hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 4 février 2014 14h35 Objet : Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch I strongly agree. Validation is very useful, just not 100% well implemented in its current form. Invalidation would be an important step, as would tighter guidance on the validation process. Since it's supposed to be a decision taken with authority, it makes sense to have the definition of valid be less of a free for all and generally better defined. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 11:21 AM To: k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch Dear All As a newbie on HOT, I think that validation has a place. When a responder looks at a mapped set of areas it is useful to know if the data has been checked or not. It may influence how the data is utilized and evaluated especially for those who base operational decisions on the mapped data. The more experienced mappers, perhaps the Voting Members could have the facility to Unvalidate a block if they look at it, or perhaps people could flag a validated block for a review by a more experienced mapper if they see issues, these flagged blocks could be shown visually.ashttp://visually.as/ a different color square so that an overall feel for the current status and confidence level by experienced HOT members on the data mapped could be assessed quickly. Just a thought Regards Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedInhttp://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt [X] See me on StackExchangehttp
Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch
I strongly agree. Validation is very useful, just not 100% well implemented in its current form. Invalidation would be an important step, as would tighter guidance on the validation process. Since it's supposed to be a decision taken with authority, it makes sense to have the definition of valid be less of a free for all and generally better defined. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Mark Cupitt markcup...@gmail.commailto:markcup...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 11:21 AM To: k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Tech WG - tasking manager - workflow branch Dear All As a newbie on HOT, I think that validation has a place. When a responder looks at a mapped set of areas it is useful to know if the data has been checked or not. It may influence how the data is utilized and evaluated especially for those who base operational decisions on the mapped data. The more experienced mappers, perhaps the Voting Members could have the facility to Unvalidate a block if they look at it, or perhaps people could flag a validated block for a review by a more experienced mapper if they see issues, these flagged blocks could be shown visually.ashttp://visually.as a different color square so that an overall feel for the current status and confidence level by experienced HOT members on the data mapped could be assessed quickly. Just a thought Regards Mark Regards Mark Cupitt If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence See me on LinkedInhttp://ph.linkedin.com/in/markcupitt [http://s.c.lnkd.licdn.com/scds/common/u/img/webpromo/btn_myprofile_160x33.png] See me on StackExchangehttp://gis.stackexchange.com/users/17846/mark-c [http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/flair/17846.png] === The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the email and any attachments. === On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, On the other side of for validation it is a well liked feature for some of our more traditional partners. (Including those that originally funded v2 of the tasking manager) It would be nice not to take features away from the 1st version. I would suggest we look at ways to encourage validation. I think one way for example would be to let people validate more than one square at a time. Thanks, -Kate On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.commailto:pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Harry! You read my mind. Let's try without validation. I'm pretty sure that the validation feature can be re-added in a near future. We just need to find a way to have something easy to understand for the end user. And I am convinced that if it's simple for the end-user it will not require to much effort to implement. For the most motivated of us, I think that UI mockups are a neat way to brainstorm and share ideas. Pierre On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.ukmailto:m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote: Seems people aren't sure about the idea of removing the validation step, but I think it's good idea. I'm sure Pierre is suggesting this change having looked quite carefully at the way people are using the task manager system. The idea of validation was to allow pro-mappers to coordinate the process of double-checking over the area of a whole job, without too much duplication of that double-checking effort, but how many whole jobs has this happened on? It's easy to see the validation step has not been adopted much. Either we don't have many pro-mappers with confidence to validate, or they're not that interested in doing validation (perhaps because we have a steady flow of new jobs work on) And the thing which is always easy to overlook, the feature comes at a cost. It makes the system that little bit more complex to understand. I like the idea of trying without validation. A compromise might be to have it as some sort of hidden feature, but then that's effort to develop something which few users see. Harry From: Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.commailto:pierre.gir...@gmail.com To: HOT
Re: [HOT] New HOT voting members approved!
Congratulations to everyone! What a strong incoming class. I look forward to working with all of you to make HOT stronger and OSM even more relevant to humanitarian work. From: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Reply-To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Date: Monday, February 3, 2014 4:13 PM To: nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.commailto:nicolas.chav...@gmail.com, jaa...@helleranta.commailto:jaa...@helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.commailto:jaa...@helleranta.com Cc: members...@hotosm.orgmailto:members...@hotosm.org members...@hotosm.orgmailto:members...@hotosm.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] New HOT voting members approved! Yes thanks to Jaakkoh, Boris and Kate to have done so efficiently this process of nomination of the new members. Decision was taken that each member could propose only one person. We then have collectively assured that those people deeply involved in HOT actions have the opportunity to play a role in the orientations as well as the many actions of the organization becoming part of the membership. Congratulation to the 18 new members and welcome in the HOT Membership. Pierre De : nicolas chavent nicolas.chav...@gmail.commailto:nicolas.chav...@gmail.com À : Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.commailto:jaa...@helleranta.com Cc : members...@hotosm.orgmailto:members...@hotosm.org members...@hotosm.orgmailto:members...@hotosm.org; HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team) hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Lundi 3 février 2014 16h06 Objet : Re: [HOT] New HOT voting members approved! Thanks jaakkoh for your leading role in this nomination as well as those who supported you in the process. I'd like to join you in welcoming the new members from the HOT community into the organization and look forward to the amazing things that together, collectively, we will all be able to achieve in 2014 Best, Nico On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.commailto:jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: Dear all new HOT voting members, FYI all old voting members the HOT community at large, I'm happy to announce that the nominations of and elections for new HOT voting members have resulted in 18 new voting members for HOT! Welcome all! The new voting members list is below. We'll be arranging (first ever) orientations to the new voting members in the next two weeks to make sure that everyone knows what (all things) HOT is, how the organization operates and what is the role of voting members. E.g. we'll be electing a Chair (person) for the organization and a new board in the coming weeks. But we'll contact you separately on all this. .. Should there be old voting members who'd like to pitch in to preparing / doing the orientations, please get in contact. So, again, welcome all! And thanks to Boris and Kate for making the nomination/election process happen. If you want you're most welcome to reply with a blurb about you and how you got/are involved with HOT, your HOT story, if you may. I wrote mine at the bottom for a sort of an example. In fact, thinking about it, I think it wouldn't be a bad thing is also some (other) old members also feel inclined to write their HOT story. Good to know who's who in this zoo and where are people coming from :) . Perhaps we could even post these stories someone online - under an About us section at our website? Just a thought.. But now: The new voting members of HOT! New voting member Amadou Ndong Andrew Buck Augustin Doury Awa Laye Dia Bass Thiam Claire Halleux Dale Kunce Emir Hartato François-Xavier Lamure Tardieu Jorieke Vynche Maning Sambale Rafael Ávila Coya Russell Deffner Sam Larsen Samuel Paul Alce Stéphane Henriod Will Skora Yohan Boniface That is quite an impressive list, eih!? My HOT story: Originally from Finland, moved to the US (DC) over 10 years ago. I got involved with HOT during the Haiti earth quake of 2010 and when I lived in Haiti for 3 years. I've done most of my mappinghttp://hdyc.neis-one.org/?jaakkoh in Haiti and Dominican Republic and I've worked in the field with HOT (in Haiti) and pitched into developing some new projects for HOT. Currently living in Nicaragua trying to learn Spanish and getting engaged with the local mapping community (http://mapanica.nethttp://mapanica.net/). HOT is hot because I think that (it's obvious by now that) Open(Street)Mapping can have a huge positive impact in humanitarian work and making (economic) development work better. http://osm.org/user/jaakkoh http://about.me/jaakkoh What's your HOT story? With welcoming regards, -Jaakko -- jaa...@helleranta.commailto:jaa...@helleranta.com * Skype: jhelleranta * Mobile: +505-8845-3391 (Nicaragua) * Voice(mail) / SMS / What's app: +1-202-730-9778 * http://about.me/jaakkoh -- Nicolas Chavent
Re: [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing
Hi All, I proposed the switch to a damage= tag to this community about a month ago and received a positive response, albeit from few voices. When I brought this up again at SOTM-PH it was also well received. As such I think we should switch to using the damage= tagging schema and move away from tagging damages in the building tag. The rendering on this may lag at the moment but is easy enough to catch up - Yohan has already signaled that he can switch quickly. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 1:14 PM To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing Hi, Wanting to contribute to the post-disaster assessments in Philippines, I read the discussion about tags and rendering. As Pierre's tip about the mapcss was useful for everyone, I added it in the workflow tab in the job I wanted to contribute (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/360). Would be good to have a defintive statement regarding Jonathan's questions and put it in the workflow as well, so that there is no doubt about the tagging. Sincerely, Severin Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 15:42:29 + From: Jonathan bigfatfro...@gmail.commailto:bigfatfro...@gmail.com To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] [talk-ph] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing Message-ID: 52b5b6e5.5020...@gmail.commailto:52b5b6e5.5020...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Excellent heads up with this styesheet. It has highlighted to me a possible confusion I have. There are 3 building scenarios as I understand it: 1. Undamaged Building 2. Damaged Building 3. Destroyed Building The tagging I understand for those three are: 1. Undamaged Building building=yes typhoon:reviewed=yes 2. Damaged Building damage=damaged typhoon:reviewed=yes 3. Destroyed Building damage=total typhoon:reviewed=yes So, in 2 3 there is no longer a [building] tag and the stylesheet paints it Green. In 1 there is no [damage] tag but the stylesheet doesn't paint it green even though it has [typhoon:reviewed] tag? Any ideas. Thanks Jonathan ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing
Hello All, Greetings from Manila. As efforts to alleviate the damages from Typhoon Haiyan / Yolanda in the Philippines shift from response to recovery the need for detailed, precise information about damages and recovery rates has become more pressing. Agencies are still investing lots in mass-distribution style emergency shelter relief but are already looking at the next stage of supporting self-recovery activities and the eventual move towards permanent shelter solutions. One of the more affected municipalities in Haiyan's path is Carles, on the Northeastern tip of Panay Island. Much like the islands of neighboring municipality Estancia to the south, the exposed islands of Carles and the buildings along its shores were hit hard by the typhoon. Survivors are doing an inspiring job of putting their lives in order and moving on but the need for assistance and support is still real. We've create a task to support this process at: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/392 To support that assistance process we'd like to assess the damages at a building-by-building level. Our hope is to better target assistance from aid agencies in the area, track reconstruction progress at a building level and verify the accuracy of these assessments through OSM for future work. Thanks to the continued generosity of the U.S. State Department, we've been able to procure post-disaster imagery for the municipality of Carles on the northeast tip of Panay Island. Please download the imagery into your editing software of choice and be sure to insert the necessary tags to recognize the NextView license's part in the data so created. Many thanks to all of you for your contributions and continued support. I cannot speak enough to how well received OSM is by government, NGOs and companies alike here. This operation represents a huge leap forward in terms of the credibility and recognition of OSM for disaster response purposes. Best, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] New Task: Carles Post-Disaster Tracing
Thanks for catching that Maning, I forgot to drop in tms[50]: at the
start of the imagery URL. Fixed now.
I'll work on uploading traces this afternoon (PHP time). Should have a
couple on the main roads.
Thanks to you!
Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì
American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/
2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick
On 12/19/13 11:18 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Robert,
Imagery is not loading for me in JOSM. Error is:
Server returned HTTP response code: 500 for URL:
http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/carles-post-flipped/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Also as you have been to Carles, I want to ask whether GPS traces were
collected and if yes, can you upload them is
OSM so that we can correct possible imagery shift.
Thanks!
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Banick, Robert
robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote:
Hello All,
Greetings from Manila.
As efforts to alleviate the damages from Typhoon Haiyan / Yolanda in the
Philippines shift from response to recovery the need for detailed,
precise
information about damages and recovery rates has become more pressing.
Agencies are still investing lots in mass-distribution style emergency
shelter relief but are already looking at the next stage of supporting
self-recovery activities and the eventual move towards permanent
shelter
solutions.
One of the more affected municipalities in Haiyan's path is Carles, on
the
Northeastern tip of Panay Island. Much like the islands of neighboring
municipality Estancia to the south, the exposed islands of Carles and
the
buildings along its shores were hit hard by the typhoon. Survivors are
doing
an inspiring job of putting their lives in order and moving on but the
need
for assistance and support is still real. We've create a task to support
this process at: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/392
To support that assistance process we'd like to assess the damages at a
building-by-building level. Our hope is to better target assistance
from aid
agencies in the area, track reconstruction progress at a building level
and
verify the accuracy of these assessments through OSM for future work.
Thanks to the continued generosity of the U.S. State Department, we've
been
able to procure post-disaster imagery for the municipality of Carles on
the
northeast tip of Panay Island. Please download the imagery into your
editing
software of choice and be sure to insert the necessary tags to
recognize the
NextView license's part in the data so created.
Many thanks to all of you for your contributions and continued support.
I
cannot speak enough to how well received OSM is by government, NGOs and
companies alike here. This operation represents a huge leap forward in
terms
of the credibility and recognition of OSM for disaster response
purposes.
Best,
Robert
Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì
American
Red Cross
2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006
Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick
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[HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Tracing -- Please Assist
Hello HOT Community, Hello from Tacloban. Recovery work for Typhoon Yolanda is gathering steam in the Philippines and with it the need for highly detailed data. I'm here working with the REACH Initiative to conduct a rapid shelter assessment which will be used to inform shelter reconstruction planning for the entire recovery operation. In the course of these surveys we're testing the accuracy of damage assessments conducted through OSM and developing methodologies to join relevant survey data to OSM map features. One of the municipalities selected for assessment is Carles on the northeasten tip of Panay. We're hoping to use OSM to better plan the logistics and administration of our assessment surveys and in turn generate more useful data for OSM. If possible we'll obtain post-disaster imagery and set up a separate task to crowd source damage assessments that we can validate in the field. We need your help to get this done in time. Our assessment will be happening later this week, most likely Friday, so we need the community's help to trace the relevant data in time. If you have the time and inclination, please take a cell or 20 and chip in. If the data is good enough it will be used by humanitarian responders. Many thanks to all of you for the time and effort you've given so far. GIS folks in the field are all raving about the quality and thoroughness of the data that OSM provides to this response. Best, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] PHL: making use of building damage data
Hi All, Rafael, I agree that remote tracers should only use a limited number of damage tags. I was proposing that moderate/destroyed effectively replace damaged/collapsed. I also like the incident specific tagging scheme you propose. Pierre, it's a fair point that this will be disruptive in the short term to existing tracing that's been done. I think we'll have to look for automated means of moving over the tags from the data collected so far to new areas. Best, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 11/25/13 5:15 AM, Rafael Avila Coya ravilac...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Jonas: For the disaster tagging, wouldn't it be simpler to have the following schema? typhoon_Haiyan2013:damage, typhoon_Haiyan2013:reviewed, ... earthquake_Haiti2010:damage, earthquake_Haiti2010:reviewed, ... tsunami_Japan2011:damage, tsunami_Japan2011:reviewed, ... About the damage terminology, I find it impossible for remote volunteers. So I would suggest that remote volunteers keep with the no/damaged/collapsed schema, and then those on the ground to change it to the more accurate schema. Or, for future disasters, using only moderate and destroyed tags as equivalent to damaged and collapsed. Cheers, Rafael. On 25/11/13 09:46, Jonas Shorn wrote: Hi Robert, good deal! The tagging scheme is simple but intriguing. However, I would suggest to use 2 different disaster tags. Because, ideally, the tagging scheme could be set up now in a sustainable way so it can also be used later on. So why dont use one disaster tag like disaster:type=Typhoon/ Earthquake/Flood/ and one for disaster name like disaster:name=Yolanda/Haiyan, ... Great to use a terminology for damage assessment used by responders in the field. I would suggest to provide guidelines for mapping-volunteers about those terminologies.. the assessment tag - would it also be meant to be used by volunteers who map from remote? Also, when the colleagues conduct the damage assessment in the field, it might be feasible that they also assess more things than the damage and tag it, following the Humanitarian Data Model? Keep up the great work! Kudos! Warm regards, SvendJ 2013/11/25 Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org mailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Hi All, I'm gearing up to do a considerable amount of fieldwork validating and adding to the damage assessments conducted for Typhoon Haiyan to date. I'll be working with a team of enumerators conducting standard shelter assessments to incorporate relevant data from those assessments into OSM. As such I've been taking a hard look at the OSM data model for damages and thinking about how best this can be done. My comments are those of Nick McWilliam from MapAction: if buildings and damages aren't separated then it's very difficult to tell the two apart. While semicolons *can* be used, its more work than necessary and needlessly complicated for the many new or occasional tracers we get during these events. I'm developing a schema that we can use to pair Shelter Cluster assessment data with OSM. The goal is a data model that matches with what responders are using and is easy to query, update and clean as recovery work progresses. There's been some great discussion here so far that I'm trying to pull together into something we can use. I wanted to propose the following four tags and get feedback. Note that this scheme is meant as much for field teams as for remote tracers. damage=minor/limited/moderate/extensive/destroyed disaster=typhoon;Yolanda validated=yes assessment=XYZ_Organization Thoughts on the scheme: I would propose that guidelines/example for remote tracers using these tags be established (e.g. X photo is an example of moderate damage) and only a limited number are used by them. The damages tag was modified to reflect the 5-level scale I've seen in use by shelter assessors in previous disasters in the Philippines. I welcome other input. I decided against having a typhoon-specific damages tag because realistically multiple sources of damage don't matter and are hard to disentangle besides. Validation should be used by field teams to mark that they've verified or modified remotely provided data. The assessment tag should mark which organizations did that validation. I think the disaster tag could be done better and would welcome thoughts there. I can theoretically see multiple disasters needing to be recored but can't think of a more elegant way to do so. Any and all thoughts are most appreciated. Best, Robert
Re: [HOT] PHL: making use of building damage data
And Jonas, yes, we intend to tag more structure specific attributes like roof, construction materials, etc. I'll use the standard tags for those. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Jonas Shorn shornjo...@googlemail.commailto:shornjo...@googlemail.com Date: Monday, November 25, 2013 3:46 AM To: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org, Mitchell org mitchell.lev...@acted.orgmailto:mitchell.lev...@acted.org Subject: Re: [HOT] PHL: making use of building damage data Hi Robert, good deal! The tagging scheme is simple but intriguing. However, I would suggest to use 2 different disaster tags. Because, ideally, the tagging scheme could be set up now in a sustainable way so it can also be used later on. So why dont use one disaster tag like disaster:type=Typhoon/ Earthquake/Flood/ and one for disaster name like disaster:name=Yolanda/Haiyan, ... Great to use a terminology for damage assessment used by responders in the field. I would suggest to provide guidelines for mapping-volunteers about those terminologies.. the assessment tag - would it also be meant to be used by volunteers who map from remote? Also, when the colleagues conduct the damage assessment in the field, it might be feasible that they also assess more things than the damage and tag it, following the Humanitarian Data Model? Keep up the great work! Kudos! Warm regards, SvendJ 2013/11/25 Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Hi All, I'm gearing up to do a considerable amount of fieldwork validating and adding to the damage assessments conducted for Typhoon Haiyan to date. I'll be working with a team of enumerators conducting standard shelter assessments to incorporate relevant data from those assessments into OSM. As such I've been taking a hard look at the OSM data model for damages and thinking about how best this can be done. My comments are those of Nick McWilliam from MapAction: if buildings and damages aren't separated then it's very difficult to tell the two apart. While semicolons *can* be used, its more work than necessary and needlessly complicated for the many new or occasional tracers we get during these events. I'm developing a schema that we can use to pair Shelter Cluster assessment data with OSM. The goal is a data model that matches with what responders are using and is easy to query, update and clean as recovery work progresses. There's been some great discussion here so far that I'm trying to pull together into something we can use. I wanted to propose the following four tags and get feedback. Note that this scheme is meant as much for field teams as for remote tracers. damage=minor/limited/moderate/extensive/destroyed disaster=typhoon;Yolanda validated=yes assessment=XYZ_Organization Thoughts on the scheme: I would propose that guidelines/example for remote tracers using these tags be established (e.g. X photo is an example of moderate damage) and only a limited number are used by them. The damages tag was modified to reflect the 5-level scale I've seen in use by shelter assessors in previous disasters in the Philippines. I welcome other input. I decided against having a typhoon-specific damages tag because realistically multiple sources of damage don't matter and are hard to disentangle besides. Validation should be used by field teams to mark that they've verified or modified remotely provided data. The assessment tag should mark which organizations did that validation. I think the disaster tag could be done better and would welcome thoughts there. I can theoretically see multiple disasters needing to be recored but can't think of a more elegant way to do so. Any and all thoughts are most appreciated. Best, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 On 11/22/13 11:30 AM, Nick McWilliam (MapAction) nmcwill...@mapaction.orgmailto:nmcwill...@mapaction.org wrote: Hi Andrew - Much appreciate the quick response - will check the tag attribute; and understand your comments about the design of the tagging scheme. Best wishes - Nick. -Original Message- From: Andrew Buck [mailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.commailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 November 2013 16:15 To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] PHL: making use of building damage data -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick, see my responses inline below: 1. Having referred to the OSM Damaged buildings crisis mapping http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Damaged_buildings_crisis_mapping page, I'm not sure I'm making
Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds
All, please switch to the low resolution cloudless images wherever possible. We had a volunteer in yesterday who did some imagery wizardry to strip out as much cloud cover as possible from stock LANDSAT imagery. That should make it possible to spot and trace major roads, especially on the interior of islands where they're often currently missing. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.commailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:01 AM To: Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.netmailto:o...@tappenbeck.net Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds Hi, Just in case it helps, the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan Has two links for low resolution images which may help with cloud. Other than that I would go with fixme, but am happy to go with the consensus. Regards Nick (Tallguy) On 11 Nov 2013 13:37, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.netmailto:o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: hi ! how to map if a cloud is in the image an so you don't now the right way of ways ? - routing-problem. * draw cloud-border - tag? * highway across with fixme-tag? * ...? regards Jan :-) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds
Please see here for details on how best to use the imagery: https://gist.github.com/celoyd/7408773 Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Banick, Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:57 AM To: Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.commailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.netmailto:o...@tappenbeck.net Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds All, please switch to the low resolution cloudless images wherever possible. We had a volunteer in yesterday who did some imagery wizardry to strip out as much cloud cover as possible from stock LANDSAT imagery. That should make it possible to spot and trace major roads, especially on the interior of islands where they're often currently missing. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Nick Allen nick.allen...@gmail.commailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com Date: Monday, November 11, 2013 9:01 AM To: Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.netmailto:o...@tappenbeck.net Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] what to do by clouds Hi, Just in case it helps, the wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Typhoon_Haiyan Has two links for low resolution images which may help with cloud. Other than that I would go with fixme, but am happy to go with the consensus. Regards Nick (Tallguy) On 11 Nov 2013 13:37, Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.netmailto:o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: hi ! how to map if a cloud is in the image an so you don't now the right way of ways ? - routing-problem. * draw cloud-border - tag? * highway across with fixme-tag? * ...? regards Jan :-) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan - Locating Villages and Connecting Roads
Thank you to everyone who helps on this task. Unfortunately, we sense that your work will get heavy use: we're getting word that the impacts of this disaster are pretty bad. Many thanks to Andrew Buck for coordinating. More to come. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 11/9/13 12:32 PM, Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just recieved a request from the American Red Cross to make a pass over the wider area surrounding Tacloban to locate all small villages and try to connect them to the road network if they are not already done. They are still in the early planning stages of their response and do not have detailed information for us yet on exactly where their efforts will be focused but they think that no matter what the exact response ends up being, this data will likely be of use in planning/executing that response. I have created a task manager job with big tiles over a pretty wide area around our current area of interest. Remember that this is just to locate the villages and trace a landuse=residential around them and draw in the main connecting roads, you do not need to trace all the details in the villages at this time (although for small clusters of just a few houses I often just do this right away anyway since it goes so fast, but this is up to you). http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 Also, on a related issue, this response has reached a level of activity that I think we should consider formal activation. We now have at least this one outstanding request from an aid organization and I expect there will be others forthcoming. - -AndrewBuck -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSfnGrAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbIxUQAKyLigoyHFSSJrlHGX2uQQTz nMe557/LvV7XqkL6By+2xQ+FnLr8t5jIAeD4ZycL5+L2aVFdn9teeiGVEsK9PHfq jYkCz58m+lnL6Y1Fy0sAzM1ux7pzAFHVQjy8yrp9+y17/Wwnmp2QrjAed6AD/Zwi +JAFIisprOPQNceHMI+/5IkFGudmAxuMv3Xu5iTGqSYOb1MrW04crL3BFOg3ebmU CljuOOpcKoFeX/1abHI2u0k8YjETf6IQZjvJGs/O+labXX/YHTzMaii+0LG+4qA7 FcsQcGFnaJc+Cl3Ot0KvVZffjNDTS/aC4bNJ9LGzWRyDmpNNkRsTVKT/fDiDlRcj P0gc3/VuMO8PoYxQFdQPT2eEhoXIKqKx4RZHQ1pJ99amvcxbYLXhYPzVdWz+oUEI yVGqYwa60+8CninNF1FwDuKYW9bMcwzSO4QWu5h0Hnofm8ACFhJbLNH55zS7s/zY afwF8vEYHH/dwT5x8dHe/smqDsbsJWka3aKPzGKE4hsaM2LyOgxsekS0SlVXlGDe PUXS5S0t5KfBx/ZC9DejPu5AGna0o3Y36oJ4i39nYvG3liUoeXUmfF21MW9Tk6IE es5xOM8VIQTqig2l3WkPIMb/8LMN1WhnKJEsd1wecP6EfH4gbLjeb056ag8Z0GqV KSkQ2bEQKaS9mu/wyHTa =h8Ap -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] University Course on VGI and Crisis Mapping - OSM Exercise
Hi Jonas, The American and Haitian Red Crosses could use help finishing up the tasks we've made in Northern Haiti. We're due to start mapping individual communities and collecting primary data (risk zones, health worker locations, etc.) from them on the ground in 2 weeks. We plan on using paper printouts of OSM for this process in over 200 communities, so having all the roads, land uses and buildings down will make that a much easier process. Best, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Reply-To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Date: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:41 AM To: Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.esmailto:i...@sanchezortega.es, Jonas Shorn shornjo...@googlemail.commailto:shornjo...@googlemail.com Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] University Course on VGI and Crisis Mapping - OSM Exercise As other said, there are no urgent tasks presently. An other task that I can suggest is in Mali. See http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/150 While this in not an emergency, there is still a lot to cover with this task. In the context of a Crisis Mapping course, it is also interesting to look at this. When we started the Mali Activation at the beginning of the year, we had a huge area to cover in the Niger Delta and in the more desertic areas north of Mali. For this Niger Delta task, there is also a challenge while mapping, since imagery taken at the flooded season is difficult to interpret. Often people will identify lakes while looking more closely, we find villages and farmlands. We have already used Kuona, a Crowdsource Imagery Application to locate villages in this vast area. Villages are either identified by a name or a gray polygon on the OSM map. This will help to locate villages and trace information related to these villages. From these villages, an other challenge is to find roads or tracks connecting the village to main roads. Pierre De : Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.esmailto:i...@sanchezortega.es À : Jonas Shorn shornjo...@googlemail.commailto:shornjo...@googlemail.com Cc : hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 5 novembre 2013 8h44 Objet : Re: [HOT] University Course on VGI and Crisis Mapping - OSM Exercise El Martes, 5 de noviembre de 2013 14:30:39 usted escribió: Thanks Ivan :-) I thought there might be a patricular project very urgent at the moment! But then, i will just pick a task for the students! If there is a very very urgent HOT project, and newcomers can help, there will be a task set at the tasking manager. :-) IIRC, urgent or important tasks are shown at the top of the list. Best, -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.esmailto:i...@sanchezortega.es ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Droid app for mapping
We've been using GPS Essentials at the Red Cross but only because we can't find a better alternative. I agree with your assessment. OSMAnd is a good piece of software but the user interface is a bit of a maze. Untrainable. Haven't tried the others. I would die of happiness if someone would create a simple, stable GPS app that loaded in OSM in the background and had a non-crazy UI for track management. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 10/10/13 6:31 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Coming off from a training with the staff of a local government, we realized that there are more smartphones than GPS units. As an initial test, we showed them how to use the default phototagging feature as a tool for collecting field data. In some cases, this turned out to be unreliable which I already encountered in the past [0]. Our plan is to create a learning material about using smartphones (preferably free download, opensource and, android-based) we can distribute to the participants. What OSM mapping app do you use for your phones? So far I've seen the following: 1. GPS Essentials - too many features IMO and can overwhelm new users 2. OSMAnd - good offline maps routable map based on OSM, haven't tested the mapping tools other than the OSMbug reporting 3. GPSlogger - simple lightweight datalogger 4. Keypadmapper - only for housenumber mapping, I've seen a mention of phototagging in newer versions but haven't tested. 5. OSMtracker - not yet tested 6. Vespucci - not yet tested Any other app? [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/17935 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects
Interesting. We're using 3G keys in Bhaktapur, Nepal. They alternately are pretty good and utterly terrible, depending on the time of day and luck of the draw. As long as the internet is working at all iD syncs very fast. But I understand Limonade is a quite different context. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Béland Pierre bela...@yahoo.frmailto:bela...@yahoo.fr Reply-To: Béland Pierre bela...@yahoo.frmailto:bela...@yahoo.fr Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:11 AM To: Paul Norman penor...@mac.commailto:penor...@mac.com, k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com, Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Cc: 'william skora' skorasau...@gmail.commailto:skorasau...@gmail.com, John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.commailto:john.fireba...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org, Simon Johnson sjohn...@redcross.org.ukmailto:sjohn...@redcross.org.uk, 'Tom MacWright' t...@macwright.orgmailto:t...@macwright.org Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects At the university of Limonade in Haiti, all the university campus used 3G keys to access internet and had to share a more or less 10 gig connection (at bes) provided by the tower close to the university. At some points in the day the bandwith was significatively reduced. Students were trying to save JOSM edits after every building they traced. And then, for less then 100k edit, it tooks minutes for the action to be completed. Since Will tried later ID in the same context, it would be interesting to see how ID reacted with low bandwith. Will, did you also experiment such internet connection problems and then how it was with ID as compared to JOSM? Pierre De : Paul Norman penor...@mac.commailto:penor...@mac.com À : 'Kate Chapman' k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com; 'Banick, Robert' robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Cc : 'william skora' skorasau...@gmail.commailto:skorasau...@gmail.com; 'John Firebaugh' john.fireba...@gmail.commailto:john.fireba...@gmail.com; hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org; 'Simon Johnson' sjohn...@redcross.org.ukmailto:sjohn...@redcross.org.uk; 'Tom MacWright' t...@macwright.orgmailto:t...@macwright.org Envoyé le : Lundi 30 septembre 2013 8h27 Objet : Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects From: Kate Chapman [mailto:k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:35 AM Simon Johnson; Tom MacWright Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Hi Robert/All, I wanted to mention we'll be using iD as well for the mapping begin this week in Haiphong. It is currently the only OSM editor with decent Vietnamese support. I'm a bit concerned about conflicts during our training, but intend to use the Tasking Manager to try to avoid that. Because iD discards all of its data on save and reloads new data from the API if you have your users save frequently it will also get them refreshing their local data frequently, significantly cutting down on conflicts. If you're in a limited bandwidth situation I wouldn't worry about the increased bandwidth usage because the map data comes compressed and even when loading a dense urban area only about 25% of the bandwidth is used for map data, the remainder mainly being used by aerial imagery. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects
Ditto here. That actually starts today, in like an hourŠso we'll see how we do. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 9/29/13 4:19 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Robert/All, I wanted to mention we'll be using iD as well for the mapping begin this week in Haiphong. It is currently the only OSM editor with decent Vietnamese support. I'm a bit concerned about conflicts during our training, but intend to use the Tasking Manager to try to avoid that. Best, -Kate On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi John et al., Thanks for the update! Acknowledged that imagery may have to wait a while. C'est la vie ‹ I know you all are kept quite busy as things are. Regarding conflict detection, I think myself, Kareem Ahmed, and the wonderful folks at the Kathmandu Living Labs will have a lot more constructive feedback after our training this week. We'll keep a running log of issues with all the softwares we're using and report back regarding the highest priority fixes for iD. Overall I agree that a full blown versioning editor is beyond scope for iD ‹ we just need something a little more user-friendly than the current error messages. Many thanks to Simon and the Operations Working Group for their GPX / Waypoints help! Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:35 PM To: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.org Cc: kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com, william skora skorasau...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org, Simon Johnson sjohn...@redcross.org.uk Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Will, Robert, Thanks very much for the thoughtful feedback. I've mentally updated some priorities, and can give you a status update on a few of the items you mentioned: - GPS layer: see https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/277#issuecomment-25187237 - Waypoint support in GPX traces: thanks to Simon Johnson's work, this will be included in 1.2.0, which I've just submitted to OSM.org. - Imagery offset database: this is another feature where a pull request would greatly expedite things. It's on my radar, but not a top priority. - Conflict detection: this could range from 'periodic preemptive check for new data', which might be fairly simple to implement, to 'full blown detection and resolution', which is very complex and likely out of scope entirely for iD. It would be helpful if you could add your opinion on what the necessary scope is and ideas for specific changes to the issue. cheers, John On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi Will, Super helpful feedback. I agree with your specific points but not with the overall thrust of your argument. Given that I'm about to conduct a training next week using iD, I hope I'm right :) Some constructive responses: Simon Johnson of the British Red Cross has been working on the GPX point layer since last week and has submitted a pull request to have it fixed. I'm not sure what the status of that pull request is but selfishly hope that it's incorporated by next week. Tom, John et al, any ETA on that? I'm planning on using the tasking manager to organize the iD tracing, with the hope that we can avoid conflicts this way. I agree that conflict resolution is fairly poor and hope to get around it that way. Any experience on your end doing this? I never plan on relying on Bing anyways, since it's too fuzzy in many rural areas of the developing world to be of any use. That's not the fault of the iD team of course, just the reality of imagery availability in its current state. Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 From: kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:49 AM To: william skora skorasau...@gmail.com Cc: John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Great example of constructive feedback, Will. I'm sure that Tom, John, and team really appreciate it! On Sep 23, 2013 11:00 PM, Will Skora skorasau...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Soden mentioned the interest of using iD for OSM-related trainings during today's HOT tech chat. While in Northern Haiti for the CAP103 project in May-June 2013, a handful of the advanced mappers
Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects
So conflicts *are* a problem but not a show stopper so far. The main bummer is that if you have a conflict then all your edits are toast, period. Reload and start over. We have people saving after every single edit of any consequence. Problems occur when people don't follow that advice. We have had a few mysterious error messages pop up that I can't trace. I'll try to document tomorrow for clarity's sake. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 9/30/13 1:17 PM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Ditto here. That actually starts today, in like an hourŠso we'll see how we do. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 9/29/13 4:19 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Robert/All, I wanted to mention we'll be using iD as well for the mapping begin this week in Haiphong. It is currently the only OSM editor with decent Vietnamese support. I'm a bit concerned about conflicts during our training, but intend to use the Tasking Manager to try to avoid that. Best, -Kate On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi John et al., Thanks for the update! Acknowledged that imagery may have to wait a while. C'est la vie ‹ I know you all are kept quite busy as things are. Regarding conflict detection, I think myself, Kareem Ahmed, and the wonderful folks at the Kathmandu Living Labs will have a lot more constructive feedback after our training this week. We'll keep a running log of issues with all the softwares we're using and report back regarding the highest priority fixes for iD. Overall I agree that a full blown versioning editor is beyond scope for iD ‹ we just need something a little more user-friendly than the current error messages. Many thanks to Simon and the Operations Working Group for their GPX / Waypoints help! Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:35 PM To: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.org Cc: kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com, william skora skorasau...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.org, Simon Johnson sjohn...@redcross.org.uk Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Will, Robert, Thanks very much for the thoughtful feedback. I've mentally updated some priorities, and can give you a status update on a few of the items you mentioned: - GPS layer: see https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/277#issuecomment-25187237 - Waypoint support in GPX traces: thanks to Simon Johnson's work, this will be included in 1.2.0, which I've just submitted to OSM.org. - Imagery offset database: this is another feature where a pull request would greatly expedite things. It's on my radar, but not a top priority. - Conflict detection: this could range from 'periodic preemptive check for new data', which might be fairly simple to implement, to 'full blown detection and resolution', which is very complex and likely out of scope entirely for iD. It would be helpful if you could add your opinion on what the necessary scope is and ideas for specific changes to the issue. cheers, John On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi Will, Super helpful feedback. I agree with your specific points but not with the overall thrust of your argument. Given that I'm about to conduct a training next week using iD, I hope I'm right :) Some constructive responses: Simon Johnson of the British Red Cross has been working on the GPX point layer since last week and has submitted a pull request to have it fixed. I'm not sure what the status of that pull request is but selfishly hope that it's incorporated by next week. Tom, John et al, any ETA on that? I'm planning on using the tasking manager to organize the iD tracing, with the hope that we can avoid conflicts this way. I agree that conflict resolution is fairly poor and hope to get around it that way. Any experience on your end doing this? I never plan on relying on Bing anyways, since it's too fuzzy in many rural areas of the developing world to be of any use. That's not the fault of the iD team of course, just the reality of imagery availability in its current state. Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 From: kathleen.daniel
Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects
Indeed. I should note that the imagery is helpful but also consumes a fair amount of bandwidth. A lovely future mod would be a no imagery option. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick On 9/30/13 6:12 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: Kate Chapman [mailto:k...@maploser.com] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:35 AM Simon Johnson; Tom MacWright Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Hi Robert/All, I wanted to mention we'll be using iD as well for the mapping begin this week in Haiphong. It is currently the only OSM editor with decent Vietnamese support. I'm a bit concerned about conflicts during our training, but intend to use the Tasking Manager to try to avoid that. Because iD discards all of its data on save and reloads new data from the API if you have your users save frequently it will also get them refreshing their local data frequently, significantly cutting down on conflicts. If you're in a limited bandwidth situation I wouldn't worry about the increased bandwidth usage because the map data comes compressed and even when loading a dense urban area only about 25% of the bandwidth is used for map data, the remainder mainly being used by aerial imagery. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects
Hi John et al., Thanks for the update! Acknowledged that imagery may have to wait a while. C'est la vie — I know you all are kept quite busy as things are. Regarding conflict detection, I think myself, Kareem Ahmed, and the wonderful folks at the Kathmandu Living Labs will have a lot more constructive feedback after our training this week. We'll keep a running log of issues with all the softwares we're using and report back regarding the highest priority fixes for iD. Overall I agree that a full blown versioning editor is beyond scope for iD — we just need something a little more user-friendly than the current error messages. Many thanks to Simon and the Operations Working Group for their GPX / Waypoints help! Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.commailto:john.fireba...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:35 PM To: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Cc: kathleen.daniel...@gmail.commailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com kathleen.daniel...@gmail.commailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com, william skora skorasau...@gmail.commailto:skorasau...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.orgmailto:t...@macwright.org, Simon Johnson sjohn...@redcross.org.ukmailto:sjohn...@redcross.org.uk Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Will, Robert, Thanks very much for the thoughtful feedback. I've mentally updated some priorities, and can give you a status update on a few of the items you mentioned: - GPS layer: see https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/277#issuecomment-25187237 - Waypoint support in GPX traces: thanks to Simon Johnson's work, this will be included in 1.2.0, which I've just submitted to OSM.org. - Imagery offset database: this is another feature where a pull request would greatly expedite things. It's on my radar, but not a top priority. - Conflict detection: this could range from 'periodic preemptive check for new data', which might be fairly simple to implement, to 'full blown detection and resolution', which is very complex and likely out of scope entirely for iD. It would be helpful if you could add your opinion on what the necessary scope is and ideas for specific changes to the issue. cheers, John On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org wrote: Hi Will, Super helpful feedback. I agree with your specific points but not with the overall thrust of your argument. Given that I'm about to conduct a training next week using iD, I hope I'm right :) Some constructive responses: Simon Johnson of the British Red Cross has been working on the GPX point layer since last week and has submitted a pull request to have it fixed. I'm not sure what the status of that pull request is but selfishly hope that it's incorporated by next week. Tom, John et al, any ETA on that? I'm planning on using the tasking manager to organize the iD tracing, with the hope that we can avoid conflicts this way. I agree that conflict resolution is fairly poor and hope to get around it that way. Any experience on your end doing this? I never plan on relying on Bing anyways, since it's too fuzzy in many rural areas of the developing world to be of any use. That's not the fault of the iD team of course, just the reality of imagery availability in its current state. Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 From: kathleen.daniel...@gmail.commailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com kathleen.daniel...@gmail.commailto:kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:49 AM To: william skora skorasau...@gmail.commailto:skorasau...@gmail.com Cc: John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.commailto:john.fireba...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org, Tom MacWright t...@macwright.orgmailto:t...@macwright.org Subject: Re: [HOT] The status of iD in HOT contexts/projects Great example of constructive feedback, Will. I'm sure that Tom, John, and team really appreciate it! On Sep 23, 2013 11:00 PM, Will Skora skorasau...@gmail.commailto:skorasau...@gmail.com wrote: Robert Soden mentioned the interest of using iD for OSM-related trainings during today's HOT tech chat. While in Northern Haiti for the CAP103 project in May-June 2013, a handful of the advanced mappers in Northern Haiti had learned about iD and wanted to learn how to use it, and I attempted to give 2-3 informal brief walkthroughs. afterwards, I wrote my experiences about it and then forgot
Re: [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti
Hi All, Just a gentle reminder that the Red Cross tasks in Northern Haiti are still very much operational and needed. We kept quiet during the flooding in Khartoum so as not to distract from needed relief. Now that that's dying down, we would greatly appreciate support from any HOT volunteers who can spend time tracing for us. This data remains incredibly important to the Red Cross's work in Northern Haiti, most especially a forthcoming training on participatory GIS using OpenStreetMap. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Banick, Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org Date: Saturday, August 17, 2013 4:59 PM To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Cc: Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org, Joseph, Daniel B. daniel.jos...@redcross.orgmailto:daniel.jos...@redcross.org, Folkman, Emma emma.folk...@redcross.orgmailto:emma.folk...@redcross.org Subject: [HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti Hi All, I'm writing to ask for the assistance of the HOT community with a couple of tasks that the American Red Cross has added to the tasking manager. We're looking to map the roads, buildings and basic land uses in 6 sections communales in Northern Haiti targeted for extensive Red Cross work over the coming years. The tasks in question: Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire Tracing Task - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 The overview We'll be working in over 100 communities within these sections communales and would really like to have accurate, detailed maps of the communities and the surrounding environs. We've planned to work with Haitian Red Cross volunteers and staff to do much of the mapping ourselves, but it's just too much terrain to possibly cover it all on the ground within our timeframe. As such, we wanted to pitch some of the initial footwork to the crowd. We need your help creating a map skeleton of the areas in question: roads, buildings, land uses (in that order of importance). Our teams on the ground will take it from there, creating rich, detailed base maps in OSM for the communities in question. We'll then use these to for a participatory GIS module leveraging OSM within our assessment process. The end goal? Stronger analysis leading to more responsive programming. And proof of the concept that OSM is a natural fit for participatory GIS work. Looking forward Our hope is to build on the work on the excellent work already done by the HOT team in the North of Haiti. We've been in contact with the team from there and hope to work with the local HOT staff trained up during the recent program. More on that as it comes. Thank you to all who have contributed to these tasks so far. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides
Thanks for the awesome feedback Severin. In response to you and Mikel: I like Translation Lead and agree that a pull request shouldn't be necessary. The less a Translator is forced to learn about Github, the more likely this is to be successful. I agree that the issue tracker is pretty straightforward, thanks to its resemblance to a traditional forum. It might be worth packaging some high level guidance on what the issue tracker is for and how to use it (e.g. documenting thoroughly any problems encountered, providing the OS, etc.) I think image naming conventions would be very helpful. Otherwise we're setting ourselves up for pain down the line. No idea about the upload button. Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 202-805-3679 | Skype robert.banick From: Mikel Maron [mailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:01 AM To: Severin MENARD; hot@openstreetmap.org Cc: Kunce, Dale; Joseph, Daniel B. Subject: Re: [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides Thanks Severin for looking through and giving feedback! - it says Sign up and confirm your account, then You won't need to do anything else on the GitHub website but From the list of projects on the 'Explore Projects' page click on the 'learnosm' folder to open it; If you don't see it, ask the GitHubber team member if they have added you as a collaborator. So it is supposed to be done by email and not through GitHub pull request right? Yes, communication is not necessarily through github with the 'GitHubber' (we really need to find a better name for this role ... maybe just Translation Lead). The Translator certainly won't need to do a pull request. However I guess we could consider some coordination through the Issue tracker on github, which I consider relatively usable. Thoughts? - The image below shows image elements; You should not change images or links when translating. If we can stay with the same names, we definitely have to make new images as they show by default screenshots of the English interface. How do we process? Yes, agreed, there needs to be a way for translators to provide translated images. Will the upload button in prose.io upload to the images directory? Do we need to specify some kind of image naming convention in the instructions? -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Severin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Cc: Kunce, Dale dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org; daniel.jos...@redcross.orgmailto:daniel.jos...@redcross.org Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:27 PM Subject: [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides Hi, I take the opportunity of being in the HOT House to go back to the LearnOSM translation and review the guide kindly written by Daniel: https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/Guides/blob/master/TranslationWorkflow_LearnOSM/translatorWorkflow.md Thank you very much for this, it is really clear. Two remarks: - it says Sign up and confirm your account, then You won't need to do anything else on the GitHub website but From the list of projects on the 'Explore Projects' page click on the 'learnosm' folder to open it; If you don't see it, ask the GitHubber team member if they have added you as a collaborator. So it is supposed to be done by email and not through GitHub pull request right? - The image below shows image elements; You should not change images or links when translating. If we can stay with the same names, we definitely have to make new images as they show by default screenshots of the English interface. How do we process? Sincerely, Severin On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:49 AM, hot-requ...@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send HOT mailing list submissions to hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Cc: \Kunce, Dale\ dale.ku...@redcross.orgmailto:dale.ku...@redcross.org, Daniel B. Joseph daniel.jos...@redcross.orgmailto:daniel.jos...@redcross.org Subject: [HOT] LearnOSM translators, we have guides Message-ID: 1377217540.4713.yahoomail...@web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.commailto:1377217540.4713.yahoomail...@web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi We've been working to better document the process of translating LearnOSM in gitpages/prose.iohttp://prose.io/, as well as uncovering some needs for management of LearnOSM. The goal is
[HOT] Red Cross Tasks in Northern Haiti
Hi All, I'm writing to ask for the assistance of the HOT community with a couple of tasks that the American Red Cross has added to the tasking manager. We're looking to map the roads, buildings and basic land uses in 6 sections communales in Northern Haiti targeted for extensive Red Cross work over the coming years. The tasks in question: Caracol - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/280 Ferrier Ouanaminthe - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/284 Borgne - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/285 Bahon - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/286 Ranquitte La Victoire Tracing Task - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/287 The overview We'll be working in over 100 communities within these sections communales and would really like to have accurate, detailed maps of the communities and the surrounding environs. We've planned to work with Haitian Red Cross volunteers and staff to do much of the mapping ourselves, but it's just too much terrain to possibly cover it all on the ground within our timeframe. As such, we wanted to pitch some of the initial footwork to the crowd. We need your help creating a map skeleton of the areas in question: roads, buildings, land uses (in that order of importance). Our teams on the ground will take it from there, creating rich, detailed base maps in OSM for the communities in question. We'll then use these to for a participatory GIS module leveraging OSM within our assessment process. The end goal? Stronger analysis leading to more responsive programming. And proof of the concept that OSM is a natural fit for participatory GIS work. Looking forward Our hope is to build on the work on the excellent work already done by the HOT team in the North of Haiti. We've been in contact with the team from there and hope to work with the local HOT staff trained up during the recent program. More on that as it comes. Thank you to all who have contributed to these tasks so far. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] UAVs
Ditto what Andrew said. Otherwise I'm on board with you Alex :) Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ From: Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.commailto:andrew.r.b...@gmail.com Date: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:22 PM To: Alex Barth a...@mapbox.commailto:a...@mapbox.com Cc: Robert Banick robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org, Joseph Pollack josephrichardpoll...@gmail.commailto:josephrichardpoll...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] UAVs It is not the rendering and serving of the tiles that is the problem with the imagery processing, it is the orthorectification that is tricky. UAV's are required to fly quite low which means that the individual frames are quite small, requiring tens or hundreds to cover even a small town. At this scale it is not possible to manually orthorectify these images and more sophisticated techniques need to be applied. This is the part of the solution that Robert was referring to. -AndrewBuck ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT/HDM web rendering
Hi Yohan, Fantastic! I’ve had numerous trainees complain about stuff not showing up on the map, and wow, this gets right at that. It also looks better than the default OSM tiles :-) Totally agreed that a legend / map key is needed. The American Red Cross would be happy to help with making that if we can get specifications on what’s needed / how you’d like to see it. Speaking of which, if we have anything else in mind that might merit a place on the map, would we be able to discuss with you all further and/or assist with symbology? We’re eager to be contributors and not just users. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | Field GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ From: Stéphane Henriod [mailto:s...@henriod.info] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:51 AM To: HOT@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT/HDM web rendering Hi Yohan! this is indeed amazing and exaclty what was needed! So many people have already complained that they digitize stuff that doesn't appear on the map! I second David, once the icons and styles will be in reasonnably final stage, it would be necessary to have a map legend / key. And also maybe to host it on a server with a shorter / more explicit name (humanitarianmap.orghttp://humanitarianmap.org? or whatever in this direction). And, naturally, if there was a possibility to serve the whole planet file, it would be even more amazing! :-) Very well done the CAP103 team! Stéphane -- Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux -- Albert Einstein A journey does not need reasons. Before long, it proves to be reason enough in itself. One thinks that one is going to make a journey, yet soon it is the journey that makes or unmakes you. -- Nicolas Bouvier Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.infohttp://www.henriod.info/ On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:18 AM, David Schmitt da...@black.co.atmailto:da...@black.co.at wrote: Hi Yohan, On 2013-06-20 23:00, Yohan Boniface wrote: Hi Hotties, It's time to introduce the work being done on a humanitarian (HDM) specific rendering. TL;DR: http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728 I will now share with you the work in progress on the web rendering step. This web rendering has several goals: One is simply to give editors a way to see the HDM OSM data without having to use JOSM or a SQL console. Another is to give humanitarian actors and developing countries a web map that gives them the information they need, making OSM more and more useful. Finally, this is the occasion for HOT to have its own rendering, a nice way to illustrate its work! What does highlight the HDM means for a rendering? The main principle is that each tag considered meaningful for the HDM should be rendered. Here are some examples: - road surface and smoothness are rendered (eg. http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#15/18.6665/-72.3048 where a piece of the primary road is unpaved) - water well are rendered (eg. http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.67901/-72.12665, icons work in progress ;) ) - street lamps are rendered (same link) - The craft tags are rendered (http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.67048/-72.12274) - NGOs have their icons, for example: http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#19/19.75957/-72.20532 Also: - terrain data is included (will be colorized: http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#11/19.5944/-72.1108) - zoom until 20 is allowed: the goal is to enable mapping in very detailed instances. For example, camps (fire hydrants are already rendered: http://umap.fluv.io/en/map/hdm-first-draft_728#20/19.76066/-72.20188 ) Very awesome indeed! I think it is a very important step for HOT to have the entered data visible on a map. It is necessary to both provide feedback to the editors as well as to have a simple and tangible result to communicate to people outside of the project. Something I'm missing is a map key. It's hard to infer the actual state of a road from its color on the map, without guidance. Keep up the amazing work :-) Regards, David ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Trouble with HOT Exports?
Hi all, I've been trying to export shapefiles of a project area in Eastern Uganda using a bounding box and No Preset File and am having problems. I'm repeatedly getting a error in osm2pgsql error message. This actually comes after a successful but flawed export 2 weeks ago where polygons and their tags were exported as lines. Is something up with HOT Exports? Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels
Zongo would definitely be helpful to humanitarian organizations. When last I heard the IFRC was operating in part out of Zongo (this was weeks ago and may have changed). We recently sent some folks out with poster sized OSM printouts of Bangui / Zongo and were frustrated by the relative lack of detail in Zongo. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ From: Claire Halleux claire.du@gmail.commailto:claire.du@gmail.com Date: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:44 PM To: Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc: Severin Menard severin.men...@hotosm.orgmailto:severin.men...@hotosm.org, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels Since this Sunday morning, increasing numbers of CAR residents have been crossing the border to get more secured on the other side of the Ubangi river. Many of them arrived directly in Zongo, the neighbouring town on DRC side. Its mapping is far less detailed than Bangui's, maybe we could set a task for mapping Zongo (if Bangui digitization process is achieved), HR Bing imagery is available for the area. Thousands of refugees from Central African Republic had already been registered around Mobayi area (East of Gbadolite) for the last few months but in this area, there is not so much imagery available yet. Claire 2013/3/24 Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frmailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr Séverin, I have revised the text in both french and english. Instead of talking only of Mali, I have modified to talk of african countries in general. Pierre De : Séverin MENARD severin.men...@hotosm.orgmailto:severin.men...@hotosm.org À : hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 24 mars 2013 16h13 Objet : [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels Hi all, Bangui, the capital city of Central African Republic, has been taken over today by the Seleka rebels, three months after their coming from the northern part of the country. When they arrived close to Bangui in late December, we started a preparation, connecting with the humanitarian stakeholders there to identify both already affected towns as well as the ones prone to be, thanks to the EUROSHA volunteers that were deployed in Bangui (but obviously had to leave the country due this political crisis). Specific TM jobs have been created and partially completed, and an import process of the data provided by some stakeholders (eg UNICEF) have started. I just updated the OSM wiki page for CARhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Central_African_Republic to coordinate the mapping goals as of today. Finishing both Bangui and secondary towns is one of them. Regarding the road network, I changed the former proposed typology by the one created for the Mali crisis. Indeed, the really impressive work made by the Hotties in charge of this activation apart, I really like this road typology that, IMHO, could be extended to the rest of Africa and maybe all the developing countries (what is the opinion from people experienced in other continents?). To involve more French speaking people, I translated it today. Pierre, might be good if you have a look on it to be sure I did not make any confusion. Some existing data, surveyed in the field by various humanitarian organizations, will be imported soon, providing health centers, schools, and watsan objects. Sincerely, Severin ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Claire Halleux - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Geographic Information Systems Specialist Kinshasa, Democratic Rep. of the Congo Mobile: +243 99 256 9980 http://www.rgc.cd ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT is Now Tax Exempt in the US
Indeed, fantastic news! Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303—052 | Skype robert.banick From: Heather Leson heatherle...@gmail.commailto:heatherle...@gmail.com Date: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:27 PM To: k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT is Now Tax Exempt in the US Amazing! I can't wait to see this support grow. Heather On Feb 28, 2013 8:01 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, We received some very good news today. HOT received notification from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) of the United States that we have been approved and are now a 501(c)(3). 501(c)(3) status is a tax exempt status in the United States. We had applied back in November with the assistance of a lawyer to obtain this status. This was one of the goals from the strategic planning process carried out by the board last year. This status makes us exempt from federal taxes in the United States. There are also additional benefits. People and organizations that donate to us now are able to deduct their donations from their own taxes as well. This makes us eligible for a variety of corporate donation programs we were not previously. There are also fondations that require organizations to have this status to apply for grants as well. So this may seem like a bureaucratic, administrative thing (which it is), but also it i will give us more resources to continue to do all the work that we are currently doing and more!! Thank you everyone for volunteering with us, without your help we wouldn't have a purpose and there wouldn't be much point in applying for things like this. For those more interested in the status the Wikipedia article has some more details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)_organization Best, -Kate ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] OSM beginner's workshop
If possible I would try to work an hour of fieldwork in there. It helps draw the connection between the observed environment and editing OSM that's really crucial to the OSM project. Then they can understand that they don't need satellite imagery to make a contribution to OSM. Also, fieldwork is usually fun, so people get excited about what they're learning. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick From: Frans Thamura [mailto:fr...@meruvian.org] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:32 AM To: maning sambale Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] OSM beginner's workshop I use your way when teach me Just use josm, do several tasks in josm, done in 1 day But, because meruvian model is more longer, student stay for 1 year, we teach from josm, install their own osm, use leaftlet, and compete in ict competition, that need 6 months. Yes, we make 1 day for overview, and 3 days for practical workshop Input welcome On Jan 25, 2013 8:27 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.commailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, I was asked to do a one day beginner's OSM workshop and I would like to get your opinion on what topics should be discussed in a single day. Especially for the HOT Indonesia team who have been doing a lot of this. I checked the Beginner's Guide at learnosm.orghttp://learnosm.org and I think the topics is a little too much for a single day. @Kate, Emir and the ID team, How many days do you usually do the beginner's workshop? Do you have a sample program I can follow? Advance thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] post-typhoon pablo/bopha imagery from atrium/unosat
Wow, fantastic Maning! I second what Pierre said, a blog update would be great. Perhaps you can display some maps UNOCHA / MapAction that use the OSM data? Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick From: Pierre Béland [mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:17 AM To: maning sambale; osm-ph; HOT Subject: Re: [HOT] post-typhoon pablo/bopha imagery from atrium/unosat Thanks Maning, This is great. You are doing a great job and you should write a HOT Blog update on that with a good picture illustrating this if possible. I think that it is a good example to show how HOT Activations are contributing to humanitarian relief. Pierre De : maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.commailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com À : osm-ph talk...@openstreetmap.orgmailto:talk...@openstreetmap.org; HOT hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mardi 22 janvier 2013 10h01 Objet : Re: [HOT] post-typhoon pablo/bopha imagery from atrium/unosat Hi, Just got a message from a humanitarian worker assigned in the Pablo/Bopha affected areas. He said that UNOCHA and MapAction maps are widely used in the field. In his words, the maps are like the bible in the field especially in the logistics cluster. The MapAction maps used OSM data we updated using the HOT Tasking Manager. Just great to know that our efforts are being put to good use. Thanks again to all who contributed. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.commailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, We are closing this task since the Disaster Charter has ended and the WMS is now unavailable. Thanks to all who contributed. We intend to communicate the availability of this data to local agencies working with the reconstruction efforts as well as local universities who are conducting disaster related research in the affected areas. Here's a short animation of your tremendous work in the past month: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2096185/pablo2.gif Thanks again! On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 7:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.commailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, Post-disaster imagery in selected areas in Mindanao affected by Typhoon Pablo/Bopha is now available for tracing in OSM. This imagery is currently available through JOSM and you need to agree with the Astrium/UNOSAT license to access them. Full details on how to use the imagery is available in the individual tasks below: - Montevista - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/130 - New Bataan - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/131 - Cateel - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/132 - Baganga - http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/133 If there are problems with accessing the imagery, just ask here. Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required
Hey Katrina, Thinking on the low tech end, perhaps we could pull together a complementary workflow guide template? Drop picture here, place explanation here, intro paragraph here, etc? That way task managers who don't know Inkscape / Illustrator can still pull something together pretty easily? It took us a couple hours and hard copies of high-res imagery to pull together our workflow guide. It would be great if it was easier for others to follow in our footsteps. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick From: Katrina Engelsted [mailto:katrina.engels...@hotosm.org] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:34 PM To: HOT Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [HOT] [Tasking Manager] enhancements - testers required Hey all, To piggy-back on the workflow discussion, it would be nice if all tasks had specifics like the pdf that the Red Cross included in their task: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/50#workflow Therefore, new mappers can understand the process better and it makes digitizing much more clear for all mappers. In the long run, it would probably help with speeding up the validation editing. I am not sure what would be the best avenue for ensuring that task managers include information like that, but I think that it is worth mentioning. Ideally, there could be some sample screenshots and descriptions that task managers could quickly choose so that people understand what to look for and what the goals of the remote activation are. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Pierre, I think it is a requirement to validate tiles. Yes we haven't figured out how to get people to do it, but I think that is an instructional issue. Perhaps if the validators were given access to a greater number of tiles to validate at a time. Maybe they could pick multiple tiles at once. Long-term I'd like to see the workflow so that you can define the steps a task goes through. Meaning I could say I want all squares to go through the following phases. Map the roads - map the buildings - validate. Then another task could have a complete different set of phases. Map the residential areas - map the water ways - map the roads. We haven't quite figured out the validation yet, but it is important. -Kate On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.commailto:pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I've gone further with my experimentations. I'm really not satisfied with the validation workflow and I've tried to change it completely. I'm convinced that it's not really a requirement to be able to validate tiles. It appears (looking at the statistics) that very few tiles have been marked as valid in the past jobs. I suppose that's because validation itself is not easy. It's easy to tell that a tile in invalid though. Thus, it's really a requirement to be able to invalidate tiles. In the version currently installed on dev server, the validation button doesn't exist anymore. The tiles can now take only 2 statuses done or not done. Colors have been changed too. They're now more common to people's habits and they match the buttons colors too. Also, there's no need to lock a tile to tell it's invalidate. I think this should be a quick process. I intend to add a message box. Users could for example receive messages from the application to be informed that a tile they previously worked on has been invalidated. One other thing I changed is the users tab. I simplified things by removing the numbers telling how much the users worked. As someone already told me, this is not a race. We don't need a winner. What I added though is the availability to see which tiles the given users worked on by highlighting them on the map. This feature has been asked several times. Once again, feedbacks are welcome. On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Augustin Doury augustin.do...@hotosm.orgmailto:augustin.do...@hotosm.org wrote: Sorry for this second email, I just want to add something about this point of my last email : 1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, maybe not more than once. sometimes tasks are splitted twice or more, it really slows the mapping. On the users page,the number of tiles done by a contributor could depend on the size of the tiles he has done : - if he did not split tiles, show 1 for one tile - if he did, show 0,25 for one tile which is from a tile splitted once. Augustin On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Augustin Doury augustin.do...@hotosm.orgmailto:augustin.do...@hotosm.org wrote: Hi! Couple things I realized this morning using the Tasking Manager : 1) Limit how many times you could split the tasks, for a zoom level of 17, maybe not more than once. sometimes tasks are splitted
Re: [HOT] learnosm down?
It's down for me also. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick From: Travis L Pinney [mailto:travis.pin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:18 PM To: hot@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [HOT] learnosm down? Its down for me. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.commailto:a...@mapbox.com wrote: This appears to be done to me and others [1]: http://www.learnosm.org/ DFEOJM says it's up: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/learnosm.org [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ni/2012-December/10.html Alex Barth http://twitter.com/lxbarth tel (+1) 202 250 3633tel:%28%2B1%29%20202%20250%203633 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] HOT Version of Walking Papers
I've had this problem too, and I've had it work out in the end. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it does work it takes hours to run, usually, and gives no indication when it's done. I've pretty much scratched Field / Walking Papers from my toolkit for the time being given its unreliability. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303—052 | Skype robert.banick From: Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.commailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com Date: Friday, November 30, 2012 10:10 AM To: Katrina Engelsted katr...@engelsted.comailto:katr...@engelsted.co Cc: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] HOT Version of Walking Papers Hi Katrina, I think I was just being a little impatient - mine did complete, but it took some time: http://fieldpapers.org/atlas.php?id=mbwr4hrs Perhaps the server is suffering high load at the moment. Cheers, Joseph On 30 November 2012 13:06, Katrina Engelsted katr...@engelsted.comailto:katr...@engelsted.co wrote: I also have been getting the 10% finished for fieldpapers... would be great to get that up and running again. Cheers, Katrina E. Humanitarian Openstreetmap Team Jakarta, Indonesia @MappingKat www.MappinKat.WordPress.comhttp://www.MappinKat.WordPress.com On Nov 30, 2012 6:19 PM, Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.commailto:iknowjos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Let me know if anyone wants to take a look at the version I got running. Current issues are: 1. It is only possible to create a print at Legal size - selecting A3 or A4 will crash the decoder running at /var/www/paperwalking/decoder/poll.py 2. A print at Legal size will result in a pdf of 0kb Unfortunately I've not been very good at dedicating much time at this. On the subject of Field Papers, is it working for others? I've been trying to create atlases and just get the message Preparing your atlas... (10% complete) I'll come back to my latest test later ( http://fieldpapers.org/atlas.php?id=mbwr4hrs ), but I'm not holding out a lot of hope for it. Cheers, Joseph On 30 November 2012 08:57, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi Pierre, People are currently using Field Papers as well, but the features of Walking Papers and Field Papers don't match completely one to one unfortunately. -Kate On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.commailto:pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: What about field papers? http://fieldpapers.org On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.commailto:k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, So as many people know Walking Papers has been broken for a while. It would be great if HOT had our own version of this. Would anyone have time to set it up? Joseph Reeves got a start on it, but it would be good to finish things up. We have some server space I can set you up with access. Thanks, -Kate ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- - | Pierre GIRAUD - ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Taking Gulu down?
Hey Sam, When I get time I'll definitely follow up with a summary blog post. Right now we're focused on putting the data to good use, and I want to rack up some more successes with that before I report back. These projects take time to roll out and we're only in the initial phases right now; better to wait and talk about it when we've got a lot to say. In the mean time, would the article you mentioned suffice? Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Cross http://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303‹052 | Skype robert.banick On 10/22/12 6:11 AM, Sam Larsen samlars...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Robert, Glad to hear you have got so much value out of this HOT project. Are you able to write a blog post summarising the project and HOT involvement similar to the one I have found here: http://www.redcross.org/news/article/New-Mapping-Technologies-for-the-Deve loping-World I would love to circulate a great success story about what we do to GIS non-GIS savvy people. I think the level of GIS-speak in the above article is probably about right for the general public. Sam From: Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.org To: hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 19:50 Subject: [HOT] Taking Gulu down? Hey HOT team, With the Gulu imagery expired and the city ridiculously well mapped, I think it¹s time to take down the Gulu task. As far as I¹m concerned, we can declare mission accomplished for Gulu everything we wanted / needed mapped came through. Again, a million thanks to the volunteers and HOTties who made that possible. I can tell that you all have been trying to clear out the clutter on the tasking manager and would like to do my part in that. Re: Lira, there¹s a little more work to be done. If possible I¹d like to keep it up for 2 more weeks to wring out the last drops of mapping goodness. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick| GIS Coordinator | International Services | ÌAmerican Red Cross 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303‹052 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] 3 Questions about the mapping in Lira
Hi All,
I've been holding off answering while I did some homework on the last question.
Here are my answers:
1) A 2,2 offset seems fine to me
2) Go ahead and send back tiles that need additional content from Bring,
it's good to bring that to people's attention
3) We're not entirely sure either what these structures are, but we think
they're gardens. You can label them as such for the time being - if necessary
we'll go back and batch correct later.
Cheers,
Robert
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From: Katrina Engelsted [mailto:katr...@engelsted.co]
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:39 AM
To: Philipp Schultz
Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] 3 Questions about the mapping in Lira
All good questions. I am also curious about the answers.
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Philipp Schultz
swissoptim...@gmx.chmailto:swissoptim...@gmx.ch wrote:
Hello,
Its my first message in this mailing list therefore I should introduce myself.
I am mapping for OSM since 2008 first only with GPS tracks in the areas I live
(Switzerland) or travel or work (mainly Europe an a bit of Asia), now allways
more with various open Areal Images.
I am a civil-engineer that shifted to GIS, Orthophotography and CAD 15 years
ago to end up managing big IT projects. Openstreetmap is a way to keep drawing
maps and look at aerial images.
Question one
==
I am mapping in Lira for a few days now using the Bing high resolution maps. By
the way, I am using an Offset of 2;2m in JOSM that makes it correspond to
http://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/lira_1_flipped/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.pnghttp://hiu-maps.net/hot/1.0.0/lira_1_flipped/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png
and looks coherent with the gps tracks that can be downloaded using JOSM.
- Are there other advices about the value of the offset?
Question two
==
I have seen that not every mapper seems aware of the Bing Imagery because some
tasks are marked done although there would be more to get using Bing. I've
fixed three tiles until now.
- If the tile is marked as done, should I send it back in the workflow, an take
it for fixing?
Question 3 (see attached image)
I do often see something tha looks like a buiding in construction, but the
smaller ones could also be stable or places to keep goods or animal at a safe
place. Since there are a lot of those object it looks strange to me that there
is such a construction activity in Lira. Could there be ruins or long lasting
construction projects?
What is that object?
Regards
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[HOT] Update on Lira Task
Hi All, After some experimentation and consultation with the HIU, we've determined that the second Lira image is a much better go-to source of imagery for tracing, as the satellite used returned much higher resolution imagery. This despite the real problem of cloud cover in the image. We've switched that to the default image for future tracing. Hope this helps everyone with tracing going forward. You're of course still more than welcome to use the original image, which you can find under the Workflow tab. Additionally, thank you all so much for the tracing work so far! Our Africa team's jaws dropped when they saw the maps yesterday. Gorgeous. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Northern Uganda Tracing Exercise / Sprint
I have no objections, all sounds good. Will respond with more detail after noon. Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303—052 | Skype robert.banick From: mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Reply-To: mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com mikel_ma...@yahoo.commailto:mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:47 AM To: Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.commailto:ohr...@gmail.com, hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Northern Uganda Tracing Exercise / Sprint Sounds like we should add another zoom level to the task. What this would require is deleting the current tasks, and adding new ones. If there are no strong objections to this, will do this over the course of the day. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.commailto:ohr...@gmail.com To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [HOT] Northern Uganda Tracing Exercise / Sprint Just as I have been about to give some feedback, the two mails from Sam and Tim cam in. So I'm not the only one going through this. But first of all a huge thanks for the tracing guide. This is something I really appreciate as it helps a lot to come to some consistent tagging. On the other hand I also found the tasks rather large. I had one assigned by tasking manager which first looked like an easiy one: Mostly open spaces, only a few paths and some buildings. But after looking more closely I noticed that there were many huts, which take quite some time to trace. After I while I started using the following method in JOSM to trace the huts: - select a finished hut and copy the tags with ctrl-c - press a and draw a line across the hut - press shift-o to create the circle - press ctrl-shift-v to past tags Although this is rather fast, it still feels somewhat arduous looking at the number of huts. Doing buildings with the building_tools plugin is much faster. Unfortunatley I'm not familiar with Java, otherwise I would probably rather try to create a corresponding plugin myself. So I also decided to unlock my task again. Afterwards I noticed that the changset contained 169 ways - most of the new. I didn't even start to trace the landuse save even trees. So I also think the squares might be too large, I guess a quarter of the current size would give more manageable squares. Michael ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Additional spaces at Red Cross / HOT Mapping Party
Hi All, Due to popular demand we've secured additional space for the Red Cross / HOT Mapping Party for World Humanitarian Day on Sunday, August 19th, at ARC HQ in Washington, DC. We can comfortably accommodate about 25 more people with the additional space, so please feel free to add your name to the below eventbrite. Just put it on the Waiting List and we'll get you a badge. Important: we would appreciate names by noon tomorrow, EST. We cannot guarantee that security will have time to print badges if you cut it closer than that. http://hotdcuganda.eventbrite.com/ Thanks! I can't wait to see all of you on World Humanitarian Day Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Northern Uganda Tracing Exercise / Sprint
Hi All, The American and Ugandan Red Cross have teamed up with the State Department's Humanitarian Information Unit and HOT OSM to trace the cities of Gulu and Lira in Northern Uganda using recent high-resolution satellite imagery. We invite and encourage all HOT members / followers / fans to join in and help us trace these rapidly expanding cities which are rebuilding after years of conflict. We'll be using the resulting maps to conduct on-the-ground trainings for Ugandan Red Cross staff and volunteers, including trainings in how to use and contribute to Open Street Map. Those trainigs will be put to use preventing traffic accidents and responding to the frequent house fires which plague the area. For those of you in the DC area, we'll be hosting a Mapping Party at the American Red Cross's International Response Operations Center this Sunday afternoon. Mikel Maron will be following up with details. If time and resources permit, we'd love to webcast the party and invite others, particularly Ugandans, to join. Stay tuned! For more details, read into the tasks at the below addresses. We've included a Visual Tracing Guide to help tracers know which tags to apply to which types of buidlings/roads/areas. Gulu task: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/48 Lira task: http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/49 This is our first time using mapping and Open Street Map in a big way for disaster preparedness and we'd love for it to be a success. Any and all help is extremely appreciated - after all, the Red Cross runs on volunteerism. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Feedback about smartphones use for OSM field surveys
Hi Chuck, We used the Dual units while walking around a neighborhood of Lima. It was in the southern hemisphere, obviously, but there were few tall buildings to distort the signal. As a preliminary test we were mostly interested in using the smartphones for visualization and data logging, though on the fly editing is certainly a nice to have. Our primary motive is actually to combine our evaluation (non-geographic data collection) and GIS surveying activities in one package using smartphones. A number of apps exist at present to enable this, but we're concerned that the base accuracy for most smartphone GPS units makes them rather unreliable - hence the external units. We were getting 3-6 meters of accuracy with the Dual units in Lima, readings that were confirmed by the accuracy of the data when later uploaded. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the other external units. We went with the Dual units because they're purpose built to interact with smartphones (iPhones, unfortunately), but I'd be interested if the data loggers you mention could do a better job. Cheers, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | Ì American Red Crosshttp://www.redcross.org/ 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006 Tel 202-303-5017 | Cell 404-964-3451 | Fax 202-303-052 | Skype robert.banick From: Charles Conley [mailto:ccon...@immap.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:52 PM To: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Feedback about smartphones use for OSM field surveys Hello All, I wanted to ask a couple of questions and perhaps contribute a little to the discussion on external GPS use. The first item I wanted to ask about is the notion of accuracy. I'm not clear if the positional accuracy of an external bluetooth GPS is any greater than the accuracy of a smartphone GPS. The research I found on the net seemed to be focused more on comparing traditional handheld GPS units to smartphones. I'm not sure if these comparisons are valid given that most of the external bluetooth units have more in common with GPS data loggers than they do with handhelds. Has anyone here done any testing to determine if there is a difference in accuracy between the data logger type of GPS and smartphone GPS? Robert could you please add a bit more detail on the scenario that the BT units were used? Specifically I'm interested in understanding if they were used while walking or from a car or an aircraft. Was the intent to allow for data editing on the fly or just using the smartphone for visualization and data logging? I'm asking because we have used several external GPS units similar to the one that was mentioned. The units we used were the Qstarz BT-Q1000eX. We did not use the BT feature of these units but rather used them as highspeed data loggers to collect the path of high-voltage power lines from a helicopter. We chose these particular units because they would allow us to collect up to 10 points a second. Another interesting unit is the GiSTEQ DL500. The DL500 doesn't have bluetooth but it does allow for logging up to 5 points a second and more interestingly is also has a 3 axis accelerometer that would allow for determining a measure of road roughness. Best wishes Chuck -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:48:40 + From: Banick, Robert robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:robert.ban...@redcross.org To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] Feedbacks about smartphones use for OSM field surveys Message-ID: cbfaa879.6fb6%robert.ban...@redcross.orgmailto:cbfaa879.6fb6%25robert.ban...@redcross.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi everyone, I'm happy to see this discussion taking place, as I've been personally researching and debating this question myself for a little while now. It's my gut feeling that as software for data collection improves smartphones will increasingly play a complementary role to traditional GPS devices in humanitarian fieldwork. One contribution I might make: At the suggestion of the kind people over at Catholic Relief Services, we're exploring linking smartphones to high accuracy external GPS. The best model we've encountered so far is the Dual XGPS 150http://xgps150.dualav.com/. We had success with some preliminary trials in Lima last fall. When the units connected with the smartphones we received very precise coordinates, but we encountered hiccups maintaing the Bluetooth connection with the cheapo Androids (the model name/number escapes me) we were using. Any thoughts, suggestions, or experiences others might have would be most appreciated. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | American Red Cross -- Charles Conley Chief Information Officer [http://immap.org/immaplogo.gif] 1400 16th Street, NW Suite 210 Washington, DC 20036 Tel: +1 202-729-6795tel:%2B1%20202-729
Re: [HOT] Feedbacks about smartphones use for OSM field surveys
Hi everyone, I'm happy to see this discussion taking place, as I've been personally researching and debating this question myself for a little while now. It's my gut feeling that as software for data collection improves smartphones will increasingly play a complementary role to traditional GPS devices in humanitarian fieldwork. One contribution I might make: At the suggestion of the kind people over at Catholic Relief Services, we're exploring linking smartphones to high accuracy external GPS. The best model we've encountered so far is the Dual XGPS 150http://xgps150.dualav.com/. We had success with some preliminary trials in Lima last fall. When the units connected with the smartphones we received very precise coordinates, but we encountered hiccups maintaing the Bluetooth connection with the cheapo Androids (the model name/number escapes me) we were using. Any thoughts, suggestions, or experiences others might have would be most appreciated. Best, Robert Robert Banick | GIS Coordinator | International Services | American Red Cross On 6/9/12 6:24 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.commailto:jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: Some quick thoughts. This comparison / discussion is very much needed. Thanks, Sev, for initiating. * gps a major problem. Seems to b the concl of others, larger ngos with tech teams, too - I'm gonna b testing ext BT gps solutions in the near future * qwerty is good. I yearn for it always. * small screen is bad - 7 display is lovely - large size can cause security issues, devices being lost, too * amoled is _good_ (and other bright screens) * dust/water proof is good * battery is usually a problem * I'm working with a Finnish mobile data survey platform provider (poimapper.com) and they are looking into creating a more directly osm-compatible version of their mobile app. The license is currently 250 or 500eur/mo (for upto 25 devices) for ngos/businesses, respectively, but if there's an interest within HOT to participate in helping create the osm-geared app/solution I'm quite sure that we could get one a free license for HOT. .. I'm going to be testing the usability of Poimapper as is with some OSM presets in the (more or less) near future in any case. If someone's interested I can create a test account on individual basis. Let me know. Cheers, -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Séverin MENARD severin.men...@gmail.commailto:severin.men...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 12:07:44 To: hot@openstreetmap.orgmailto:hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: [HOT] Feedbacks about smartphones use for OSM field surveys ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.orgmailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
