Re: [Hpr] Policy Change, Call to action for Host to Show ratio
I agree with dnt. You listen to shoes like Ask Noah and they are doing the same (though not as good editing wise, or as funny) thing. I like the shows. brian-in -ohio On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 6:41 AM dnt wrote: > Hi, > > On this, I agree with the majority, that we don't need to change the > current guideline into a hard rule, and it seems like it could > exacerbate the problem of filling the queue. More importantly, I think > it would do little to attract more shows by more contributors. > > I've thought a lot of things about this. Also have been thinking about > what Ken said a while ago, which got me thinking about what it means to > be a member of a community project. > > I think the process of submitting a show is not very involved but it > does feel quite formal, which can induce the contributor to feel like > they're producing a major work, which can cause delays. On the other > hand, it's important for a contributor's first contribution experience > to be a positive one. I think there's probably a wide range of > experiences of becoming an HPR host, so there's a wide range of things > people need to help them through that step. For me, I remember as I > stood over that small pot of porridge, wooden spoon in one hand, phone > in the other, I was really smitten with HPR and was very driven to send > a show, but it still took a couple of months. We can only imagine how > many recorded but unposted HPR shows are out there, you could perhaps > get another 13 years out of them. Anyway, in the porridge show, I > mentioned some of the shows that captivated me, and ultimately got me to > want in, and they were by a variety of hosts that don't submit shows all > the time. I think if HPR should be a show with a small group of rotating > hosts, that would be OK, but it would become much more similar to other > shows that I don't listen to. For me, the key thing with HPR is that you > don't know who or what is coming. > > Anyway, I think in part we need to understand that HPR's goals are quite > lofty, actually, and of course perhaps it will fold at some point, and > it's had quite a long run. Also, not all is lost when HPR does fold, > because the archive will live on. With those things in mind, I think it > is worth continuing to aim for an HPR that contains multitudes, many > hosts that only contribute sporadically. We need to accept the risks > that come with that, and agree that they're worth it, and the day HPR > folds. > > So, as for ideas for how to increase listener conversion and also help > fill the queue in another way: > > * Rewards for submitting a show: could we actually offer to send > people an HPR sticker if they submit a show? Could that be worth > doing or at all feasible? Or could there be some kind of digital > thing we could send people? Maybe we could create a bundle of > Creative Commons stuff, like a collection of texts about free > culture? The HPR Contributor Handbook, where we could say what we > would want to say to all new contributors, if we had them trapped in > a room for hours. Or it could be kind of like a catalog. Perhaps > this is something I could apply my developing LaTeX skillz to, > automatically building a 1 million page PDF from the show summaries > etc. > * Creating more seamless platforms for people to submit shows. I could > try to implement that idea of creating an HPR recording booth in a > matrix channel, using matrix-commander. It could be the HPR > Confessional :p > * Having a regular live session on Mumble. If we can get people to > show up and talk for 24 hours on new year's eve, could it be > possible to do it for 30 minutes a week? We could form a team that > rotates staffing that recording session, and the focus would have to > be on whoever turns up. That is, if someone comes to the recording, > we start asking them about them, as if tricking them into their "How > I got into tech" show. The hosts would also do their best to avoid > inane chatter. :D > * Consider making a show submission API, if there are members of the > community who would be interested in building a show-submission app > that aligns with the goal of getting contributors. I think this has > been talked about before, in the context of the Linux In-Laws asking > for it. I think it could be something that eases development of > integrations, because if people want to develop an integration, they > can do so more independently. Unfortunately I would have nothing to > contribute on this front. > * Re-runs: once a week, select a noteworthy episode from the archive, > and repost it. There's a huge archive many of us don't know, and I &g
Re: [Hpr] Supervision of a contributor
Sorry didn't know smeone was attacked Brian-in-ohio On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 12:00 PM jezra wrote: > We, the members of the community, decide what kind of language we will > accept in our community. If growing the community, and getting more > people involved and thus having more shows, is a community goal, then it > is in the interest of the community to see to it that exclusionary > language is not part of our community. > > If all are welcome, then all should feel welcome. > > jezra > > Brian K Navarette wrote: > > Who determines whats "civilized and civil". Just delete mechatronics > > emails if you don't want to read them. Does show how Europa has succumb > > to non liberal thinking when people at Free and Open source Software > > Developers' European Meeting think moderation of speech is good and > > necessary. > > Brian-in-ohio > > Keep the tunes coming Paul! > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 8:56 AM Paul Quirk > <mailto:p...@pquirk.com>> wrote: > > > > Freedom of speech is one of the greatest freedoms of modern > > civilization, but it is based upon the assumption that those who use > > it will be civilized and civil. > > > > On Sat., Feb. 18, 2023, 10:04 a.m. Ken Fallon, > <mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > There is the long standing policy on HPR about moderation > > < > https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#not_moderated> > > saying "/We do not vet, edit, moderate or in any way censor any > > of the audio you submit//, we trust you to do that/". We were > > asked a few times at FOSDEM as to how we can get away without > > moderating. I pointed out the most important bit of that policy: > > namely the "/we trust you to do that"/ part, and that the > > community understand this responsibility. > > > > If we imagine for a moment HPR been a great theater where each > > show has their own hall. In your hall you will not be moderated > > but we trust you not to say or do anything that will get us into > > trouble. If you are dealing with some topics of a delicate > > nature, you make sure that you take every reasonable step to > > ensure that people do not accidentally stumble on this. We do > > not want anyone to be in a situation where they are exposed to > > an unsavory experience. > > > > We go on to say "Please note that this only relates to the audio > > you upload. The rest of the meta-data > > (branding/summaries/tags/show notes/etc.), are managed by the > > HPR Community, and *may* be edited." To use our theater analogy > > from before, outside the hall the janitors ensure that the > > entire theater is kept welcoming to all. > > > > One of our contributors is having a difficult time with this > > responsibility, not only within their shows, but also in their > > show notes, in the comments, and now on the mailing list. I can > > understand that this may be difficult for them, but a lot of > > leniency has been given over the years. At a particular point > > you have to accept that even more help is required in showing > > what is the best way to interact with a community. > > > > Therefore I wish to propose that until trust can be > > reestablished, all submissions by Mechatroniac (aka anarch0re) > > to the mail list will be approved by the Janitors. We will take > > up contact with him in cases where the content may cause > > offense. We have had some success with this approach with him > > before. This will not apply to anyone else. > > > > All our actions will of course be overseen by the HPR Auditors > > who are volunteer community members outside the Janitor/Admin > team. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN) > > https://kenfallon.com > > https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon > > > > ___ > > Hpr mailing list > > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org> > > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > > > ___ > > Hpr mailing list > > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org> > > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > > > > > ___ > > Hpr mailing list > > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Supervision of a contributor
Who determines whats "civilized and civil". Just delete mechatronics emails if you don't want to read them. Does show how Europa has succumb to non liberal thinking when people at Free and Open source Software Developers' European Meeting think moderation of speech is good and necessary. Brian-in-ohio Keep the tunes coming Paul! On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 8:56 AM Paul Quirk wrote: > Freedom of speech is one of the greatest freedoms of modern civilization, > but it is based upon the assumption that those who use it will be civilized > and civil. > > On Sat., Feb. 18, 2023, 10:04 a.m. Ken Fallon, wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> There is the long standing policy on HPR about moderation >> <https://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#not_moderated> >> saying "*We do not vet, edit, moderate or in any way censor any of the >> audio you submit**, we trust you to do that*". We were asked a few times >> at FOSDEM as to how we can get away without moderating. I pointed out the >> most important bit of that policy: namely the "*we trust you to do that"* >> part, and that the community understand this responsibility. >> >> If we imagine for a moment HPR been a great theater where each show has >> their own hall. In your hall you will not be moderated but we trust you not >> to say or do anything that will get us into trouble. If you are dealing >> with some topics of a delicate nature, you make sure that you take every >> reasonable step to ensure that people do not accidentally stumble on this. >> We do not want anyone to be in a situation where they are exposed to an >> unsavory experience. >> >> We go on to say "Please note that this only relates to the audio you >> upload. The rest of the meta-data (branding/summaries/tags/show >> notes/etc.), are managed by the HPR Community, and *may* be edited." To >> use our theater analogy from before, outside the hall the janitors ensure >> that the entire theater is kept welcoming to all. >> >> One of our contributors is having a difficult time with this >> responsibility, not only within their shows, but also in their show notes, >> in the comments, and now on the mailing list. I can understand that this >> may be difficult for them, but a lot of leniency has been given over the >> years. At a particular point you have to accept that even more help is >> required in showing what is the best way to interact with a community. >> >> Therefore I wish to propose that until trust can be reestablished, all >> submissions by Mechatroniac (aka anarch0re) to the mail list will be >> approved by the Janitors. We will take up contact with him in cases where >> the content may cause offense. We have had some success with this approach >> with him before. This will not apply to anyone else. >> >> All our actions will of course be overseen by the HPR Auditors who are >> volunteer community members outside the Janitor/Admin team. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Ken Fallon >> (PA7KEN,G5KEN)https://kenfallon.comhttps://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon >> >> ___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >> > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Linux Inlaws
Good by In Laws, you'll never be as good as the Out Laws. No jokes aside. Brian-in-ohio On 8/19/22, Kevin O'Brien wrote: > I completely agree. We need more hosts who are part of HPR. > > Regards, > > > -- > Kevin B. O'Brien > zwil...@zwilnik.com > http://google.me/+kevinobrien > http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656 > http://about.me/zwilnik > > “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be > afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, V for Vendetta > > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 2:38 PM dnt via Hpr > wrote: >> >> It's good because with this, no one will be able to question whether >> listeners are your own or HPR's, making any claims of success >> irrefutable. Perhaps you're right that HPR has tended to shy away from >> success in these 17 years. >> >> Jokes aside, I do enjoy your shows and appreciate your work to feature >> guests we want to hear from, so I look forward to subscribing to your >> feed and continuing to listen. >> >> Now for the things pertaining to HPR that we all have talked about here: >> I think considering how easy it is to have your own CC-licensed podcast >> by hosting it on the IA, and how well such a prospective podcaster can >> be expected to host an rss feed to point to the audio files, it seems >> like the only real good reason to slot one's podcast into the HPR feed >> is to access HPR listeners. Then the question for the community should >> be: do you want to sample new podcasts within the HPR feed? For me the >> answer would tend to be no, because again, I think we should always keep >> the focus on attracting new contributors, it's what sets HPR apart, and >> it's the principle that should guide every decision, without exception. >> It's the diversity of voices and experiences and the people who wouldn't >> otherwise be a podcaster. If someone can argue that this would help >> convince listeners to become contributors, then we should talk about it. >> >> For me, a new podcast host or hosts wanting to gain subscribers can send >> a regular HPR show and let us know that if we like their vibe, they've >> started their own podcast we can subscribe to, as Klaatu has done. Those >> who like it will follow. >> >> -dnt >> >> On 8/19/22 00:24, Christoph Zimmermann wrote: >> > Dear community, >> > >> > First of all, the Inlaws would like to thank the HPR community for their >> > feedback over the >> > years and especially the last few days. >> > >> > Ken is of course right in pointing out the bootstrapping argument in >> > Wednesday's reply to >> > Yannick's mail (although we never really defined how long this >> > "bootstrapping" period >> > would last). >> > >> > In addition to the above, the assessment of the situation in our mail >> > from Wednesday >> > (republished in Ken's mail): the situation from an Inlaws' perspective >> > hasn't changed >> > since we published our first episode in early 2020. The content is >> > published exclusively >> > on HPR and our RSS feed points to HPR *only*. Having said that I cannot >> > get rid of that >> > sinking feeling that HPR and its community shy away from success. If >> > Ken's analysis >> > published recently [1] is anything to go by, we are one of HPR's most >> > popular podcasts >> > which regularly publishes content. In addition to the fact that we are >> > syndicated left, >> > right and center without any involvement of our own (as we found out a >> > while ago, there's, >> > for example, a Youtube channel republishing the audio content and >> > giving HPR credit [2]). >> > >> > But let's take a look at the bigger picture. If our experience never >> > mind the feedback we >> > are getting through official and other channels are anything to go by, >> > the vast majority of our listeners couldn't care less where they get >> > their episodes from. >> > They heard or read about the podcast, search for the RSS feed, subscribe >> > to it and if they >> > like what they hear downloaded from a server, they stick with us. >> > >> > End of story. >> > >> > In this light, any discussion about wording, podcasts vs hosting >> > platforms, etc. is >> > academic and thus irrelevant for these listeners (playing devil's >> > advocate for the above >> > of course never mind ignoring bylaws, etc. :-). >> > >> > Of cou
Re: [Hpr] Policy change: Show complaints procedure
I agree with the changes brian-in-ohio On 6/10/22, Carl D Hamann wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 1:21 PM Ken Fallon wrote: > >> I would prefer to but specifying it as "harm" can cover any complaint. >> > > I agree with keeping it generic to start--trying to indicate the intent > rather than an enumerated list that could grow bryonically. > > Tentatively hopeful, > - Laindir > >> > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Moving a show out ... again
yes On 5/9/22, Ken Fallon wrote: > On 2022-05-09 14:01, Brian K Navarette wrote: >> I'm confused. is it the ukraine stuff in the show that is an issue or >> is there holocaust denial stuff i missed or is it calling the systemd >> guy a creep the problem? it seems like what ever it is the show is on >> the website and the "law" of the lowlands has already been violated. >> brian-in-ohio > > The issue with the previous show was Holocaust denial which is illegal > in the Netherlands. The show in the queue has been deemed by our hosting > provider to violate the terms and conditions of their US based ISP. I > cannot speak to what that is. > > So rather than debate the issue can people please focus on the only > question you are been asked. > > Can we move the show our to a later date - a simple yes or no will suffice. > > > -- > > Regards, > > Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN) > https://kenfallon.com > https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon > > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Moving a show out ... again
I'm confused. is it the ukraine stuff in the show that is an issue or is there holocaust denial stuff i missed or is it calling the systemd guy a creep the problem? it seems like what ever it is the show is on the website and the "law" of the lowlands has already been violated. brian-in-ohio On 5/9/22, Mike Ray wrote: > > > IMHO any host guilty of holocaust denial should be banned outright, no > questions asked. And not just because it could land the janitors in prison. > > Of course they could then just pop up again with another name. > > > > On 09/05/2022 07:40, Ken Fallon wrote: >> On 2022-05-08 23:34, DuJeon wrote: >>> we cannot really offer insight, or an educated response without actual >>> information. i still do not know the issue with the last show, and >>> "prison" should definately come with an explanation. >> >> The issue with the previous show was Holocaust denial which is illegal >> in the Netherlands. >> >> Google Translated: >> >> "Article 137c 1 He who, in public, orally or in writing or image, >> deliberately insults a group of people >> because of their race, their religion or belief, their heterosexual or >> homosexual orientation or their >> physical, psychological or mental disability, shall be punished by >> imprisonment of not more than one year >> or a fine of the third category." >> >> http://www.wetboek-online.nl/wet/Sr/137c.html >> >> https://www-wetboek--online-nl.translate.goog/wet/Sr/137c.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp >> >> >> >> Luckily the host removed the show as. My wife and I were not willing to >> risk prosecution, or suffer the associated reputational damage that >> would come even by been seen to be associated with the show. >> >> >>> this is all way too vague and amounts to a discussion around when we >>> will be screening/disallowing shows. >>> -brian >>> >>> >> At this stage what I am asking for is to move out the show until the >> community can decide what to do. >> >> Screening everything may be the way of it in the future. Don't like it, >> then if you live in the EU, then contact your rep. >> https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_2347 >> >> >> >> Putting down my official Janitor mop of office for a minute. As I see it; >> >> * The Janitors should *NOT* have the right to censor a show. >> * The Janitors *DO* have the right not to post the show. >> >> So how do we balance these ? >> >> My own personal opinion is that the system we have in place for the last >> nearly 17 years, is working well enough. We get the shows and we >> continue to post them without vetting them. If someone complains, and >> the claims seem to be valid, the janitors should be able to notify >> everyone and postpone it's release until such a time as the community >> can decide what to do. >> >> Pretty much what we're doing here. >> >> >> ___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > > -- > Michael A. Ray > Software engineer > Witley, Surrey, South-east UK > > He/him/cis > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when > there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery > > > > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Permission to move out a show
I agree with Dave Lee Brian-in-ohio On 3/21/22 09:38, Roan Horning wrote: I am in agreement with Dave's assessment. --Roan On 3/21/22 09:31, Dave Lee (HPR) wrote: I think this is _the _key point here. I'm more than happy for the HPR Admins to make decisions where it is deemed inappropriate for a show to be scheduled for technical reasons - although not for content - without needing to seek permission first. Dave ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Raspberry Pi
Run Slackware on your pi, be free of system d, apt and coming soon true 64 bit os https://sarpi.fatdog.eu/ Brian-in-ohio (visiting oklahoma) On 2/7/21 3:04 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: Thank you, George. I am not a Raspberry Pi user, so I wasn't sure what was going on, but you have clarified it for me. It looks like this is not the end of the world. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien z <mailto:ahuka5...@gmail.com>wil...@zwilnik.com <mailto:wil...@zwilnik.com> http://google.me/+kevinobrien <http://google.me/+kevinobrien> http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656 <http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656> http://about.me/zwilnik <http://about.me/zwilnik> “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, /V for Vendetta/ On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:52 PM George De Bruin mailto:sndcha...@cerebralrift.org>> wrote: I think you responded off-list to a message, as I don't see it in my inbox. If you are talking about the controversy with the Microsoft Repo being added to people's RPi's: (a) it's definitely not ruined forever, (b) it's easily reversed if you don't want it, and (c) it only affects systems running the official Raspberry Pi OS. To summarize the issue: Pi users have been finding that the Microsoft VSCode repository has been silently added to their systems, even if they aren't using VSCode itself. There are no packages from the repository being installed. The main issue that people have with the repository being added is that Microsoft's GPG keys are added to their system automatically without their consent, and even though they aren't using the repository, the system will ping Microsoft every time you add, remove or update your packages (or check for updates to the packages). As I mentioned above, this is pretty easily fixed be removing the repository file from your system, and creating a un-writeble repo file in it's place so it doesn't get re-added. (Here's a video that talks about the issue, and how to fix it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuYPIohzo2Y <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuYPIohzo2Y>). The other option is to use a different distribution (like Manjaro) that doesn't have / won't add the Microsoft repository. There is a discussion thread about this on the RaspberryPi forums here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63=302591=Microsoft <https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63=302591=Microsoft> So, IMO, yes there is an issue. However, it's not the end of the world or the RaspberryPi was we know it. There are plenty of ways to deal with it. George On 2/7/21 1:19 PM, Jeroen Baten wrote: I hope my reply to an earlier message clarifies. Regards, jeroen Op 7 feb. 2021, om 20:16, honkey Magoo mailto:honkeymago...@gmail.com>> schreef: Hey Kevin Can you give us a link to some of these articles, because I have no idea what your talking about and doing a quick search didn't result in any information either. Thanks Honkeymagoo On Sun, Feb 7, 2021, 2:09 PM Kevin O'Brien mailto:zwil...@zwilnik.com>> wrote: I've seen some articles and headlines that appear extreme, but I am not knowledgeable about Raspberry Pis. Maybe someone out that is and can do a show or two on the controversy, is Raspberry Pi ruined forever, are there alternatives worth trying instead? Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien z <mailto:ahuka5...@gmail.com>wil...@zwilnik.com <mailto:wil...@zwilnik.com> http://google.me/+kevinobrien <http://google.me/+kevinobrien> http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656 <http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656> http://about.me/zwilnik <http://about.me/zwilnik> “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, /V for Vendetta/ ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org <http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org> Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org <http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org> ___
Re: [Hpr] Gitlab Server Getting Retired
lets avoid github brian-in-ohio On 1/3/21 3:21 PM, cobra2 via Hpr wrote: I'd think sourcehut would work better. I bet the owner would even allow hpr free whatever you needed. I feel that email + git workflow is very native. There are also gogs and gitea if you are going to selfhost and want github-like clones. Personally, with the amount of devs that we have fossil-scm seems like the best fit. My favorite fossil feature is the immutable commit history. --cobra2 Original Message On Jan 3, 2021, 3:16 PM, stankd...@stankdawg.com < stankd...@stankdawg.com> wrote: I use gitlab myself. Why don’t we just switch over there? It is free for small projects and a small number of users. Sent from my iPhone. On Jan 3, 2021, at 11:53 AM, jknap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folx, I want to let you all know that the current GitLab Server is getting ready to be retired at the end of the month. There are a few reasons for this: 1. It is running CentOS6 (this server has been alive since the beginning) 2. It was Wrong Sized (Way larger then was needed) 3. We had an issue with a ton of spam accounts at one point (That issue was mitigated, but due to the process that is required for removing the accounts, they have only been disabled.) There are more but I figured I would keep it short and sweet. My question to you all, as the HPR project(s) are the only ones that have any real activity besides some of my own, is there really a need for a private gitlab server? Would a free account with GitHub serve the cause, or am I missing something? Look forward to hearing back from everyone. --Josh ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Offer of an account for HPR at rsync.net
I agree, we should take them up on their offer. Brian-in-ohio On 12/7/20 10:48 AM, Ken Fallon wrote: Hi All, We got a free-forever account here at rsync.net. I was thinking of taking them up on their offer. https://www.rsync.net/ Any objections ? ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Note about accessibility in show notes
How about doing a show to explain this to people who want to help, but still give show notes in plain text brian-in-ohio On 8/25/20 7:59 AM, Mike Ray wrote: Little windows that come up when the mouse hovers over, tool tips you could call them, are worse than useless, since blind folks mostly do not use the mouse. Most screen readers have a keyboard way of moving the mouse pointer to where the virtual review cursor is, and then simulating a left or right click with the keyboard, but these little hovers do not show up. It may be a setting in my screen reader, but those things are distracting. Better to link as much of the sentence is necessary to describe where the link goes instead of just 'here'. I think it is bootstrap that provides a 'popper' to do the little tool tips, but again, pretty useless for us. I am doing this from memory, but I think markdown is something like: [Find the Template manual here][tt] And then: [tt]: That would work better than: Find the Template manual [here][tt] Because again that will create a link that just says 'here'. Mike On 25/08/2020 12:40, Dave Morriss wrote: On 24/08/2020 17:25, Mike Ray wrote: You can find the instructions for feeding elephants here In Markdown there's a so-called "reference link" through which a title can be provided. This populates the 'title' attribute in the link. I use these in my notes a moderate amount, partly because hovering over the link shows the title. Do screen readers read the title attribute at all? If they do is it helpful, since it doesn't necessarily provide the sort of information that you're referring to? Dave ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Content Query
Listening back to old HPR episodes there have been many show series that have seemingly been people trying out their podcasting chops on hpr to see if hosting their own show was something they wanted to do ( talk geek to me and the alien brothers comes to mind ). Some are better than others ( talk geek to me; good : alien brothers; not so good ) but they both helped 'keep the lights on' at hpr so for that i am thankful. I've never had a problem getting a slot for the episodes i have produced and I always think I'm addressing the hpr audience itself when I'm doing a show. What ever happened to deep geek and monsterb? They produced some great shows, i'm a little sad that I wasn't part of hpr, but its nice to hear what they had to say. Brian-in-ohio ps if monsterb or deep geek read this, "you owe ken a show!" "when citizens own guns, the government _is _afraid" On 7/23/20 2:03 PM, Kevin O'Brien wrote: "Content of interest to hackers" always worked for me. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien z <mailto:ahuka5...@gmail.com>wil...@zwilnik.com <mailto:wil...@zwilnik.com> http://google.me/+kevinobrien http://www.google.com/profiles/Ahuka5656 http://about.me/zwilnik “People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, /V for Vendetta/ /Public Key = F6283E7A <https://pgp.mit.edu/>/ / / On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:36 PM Ken Fallon <mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> wrote: Hi Marcus, If you create material and post it first on HPR then it meets the requirements you mention. That means once you upload it to the HPR server you can publish it anywhere else you like. You can ping the janitors at admin@hpr for more technical questions, as this list goes to the community. That said, this question (and three other queries I have had off the mail list) does bring a fundamental question as to what HPR is. Are we a Content Publication Network like youtube, or are we a Podcast that random people contribute to ? Or to put it another way, is the host addressing the Internet in general or the HPR Audience ? I would like to hear the opinions of the community on this please. -- Regards, Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 On 2020-07-23 18:05, Marcus Wilson wrote: > Hello, > > I have some ideas and wanted to provide some shows. I had a question > about the interpretation of produced for hacker public radio. > > "For this reason we are only releasing material created exclusively for > HPR." > > Can I do the show for HPR and then share the show on another community > online radio channel later? If it's CC-BY-SA I'd assume so but wanted > to ask before I started working on my ideas. > > Thank you very much, > > Marcus > ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org ___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 142, Issue 2
I like the idea. I think it would be a great learning opportunity Brian-in-ohio On 7/6/20 4:13 AM, Tony Hughes wrote: Hi Ken I don't mind at all, anything to make life at HPR Towers easier. Tony On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 8:00 PM <mailto:hpr-requ...@hackerpublicradio.org>> wrote: Send Hpr mailing list submissions to hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hpr-requ...@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr-requ...@hackerpublicradio.org> You can reach the person managing the list at hpr-ow...@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr-ow...@hackerpublicradio.org> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Hpr digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Error feedback from show notes (Ken Fallon) 2. Re: Error feedback from show notes (Andrew Conway) 3. Re: Error feedback from show notes (honkey Magoo) 4. Re: Error feedback from show notes (Carl D Hamann) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 13:02:55 +0200 From: Ken Fallon mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> To: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org <mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>" mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>> Subject: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes Message-ID: mailto:f2b78b18-4330-235e-4ff7-ec2fc9042...@fallon.ie>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi All, Most of the shows we process require us to make some level of modifications to get them posted. This ranges from fixing tags to a complete rewrite of the shownotes, or verifying whether intros were actually added or not. Each modification that we make means that it requires more human intervention and prevents us from being able to completely automate the upload process. In addition there is a non trivial amount of time needed to fix these issues. This can range from a few minutes to an hour or more per show, and with 260 shows a year this mounts up. We normally don't contact hosts about these issues as it is usually quicker to fix the issues than composing emails, and waiting for the reply that may never come. For the most part our experience has been that hosts are more than willing to fix these issues if they are aware of them. As part of the ongoing steps toward automation, would hosts be open to the idea of getting a processing report once we have posted the show? This would list all the issues the test tools found and the steps that we needed to take to rectify them. -- Regards, Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://hackerpublicradio.org/pipermail/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org/attachments/20200705/7498c303/attachment-0001.sig> -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:07:56 +0100 From: Andrew Conway mailto:nal...@gmail.com>> To: Ken Fallon mailto:k...@fallon.ie>> Cc: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes Message-ID: mailto:hd...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes, that error feedback seems like a good idea. Andrew -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://hackerpublicradio.org/pipermail/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org/attachments/20200705/3eeef067/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 07:11:37 -0400 From: honkey Magoo mailto:honkeymago...@gmail.com>> To: Andrew Conway mailto:nal...@gmail.com>> Cc: Ken Fallon mailto:k...@fallon.ie>>, HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List mailto:hpr@hackerpublicradio.org>> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Error feedback from show notes Message-ID: mailto:cakea9iovxgmncqy9-sjw%2bc4mzeuqkc%2basyueawgofeatu3j...@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If it makes your life easier, I think it's a brilliant idea. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 7:09 AM Andrew Conway mailto:nal...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yes, that error feedback seems like a good idea. > > Andrew > __
Re: [Hpr] HPR and Social media
there is a matrix room... #hpr:matrix.org --brian Original Message On Feb 24, 2020, 03:58, Jon Spriggs wrote: > Before hosting something new - have you considered using matrix.org? It's an > IM project which is managed and maintained, was recently adopted by Mozilla > to replace their IRC network, and previously was adopted by the KDE project > and the French Government. They were at OggCamp as well. If people *want* to > self-host their own "homeserver", they can access the room or rooms via a > federation service, and there are also "bridges" into many IRC networks, if > that's a desirable option too. > > Also, for fun and giggles, Matrix was developed by a telecoms provider to > (sort of) replace SIP. As such, you can run voice and video calls (including > VR video calls) over Matrix too :) > > Regards, > -- > Jon "The Nice Guy" Spriggs > @jontheniceguy everywhere... > https://jon.sprig.gs > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 10:03, Ken Fallon wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> At FOSDEM we put a chat group together to more effectively communicate >> with the participants there. The group then expanded to cover some who >> was following along from home. >> >> Since then there has been a discussion as to a more Free type of >> communication channel. >> See http://hackerpublicradio.org/series.php?id=108 >> >> Our _almost_ host Marshall put up a snikket server, and some of the >> other FOSDEMmers are testing a HPR General Chat channel there. Snikket >> is a new xmpp server based off of the prosody code. The main benefit of >> snikket right now is that it has the ability to work across multiple >> devices, so you can start a chat on your phone and it will be synced >> across all your clients that are signed into the account. Registration >> on fossch.at is currently closed but you can connect to >> gene...@groups.chat.fossch.at using your existing xmpp id while we >> figure out the best way to open registration. >> >> Your thoughts on this in particular, and HPR on Social Media in general >> would be appreciated. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Ken Fallon >> http://kenfallon.com >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 >> >> ___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] FW: HPR 3009
though if i recall they did mention the recording going on hpr briefly, so the intent was there from the start. --brian Original Message On Feb 13, 2020, 07:03, brian via Hpr wrote: > i do not feel a need to mention hpr within an episode... there is an intro > and outro. as ken pointed out, it was exclusive and c.c. > --brian > Original Message > On Feb 13, 2020, 06:40, Nigel Verity wrote: > >> Obviously there are no prizes for guessing the inspiration for this new >> podcast. >> >> Viewed in isolation I am quite happy to give this new podcast a listen and, >> as a means of getting its existence publicised, HPR is probably a valid >> medium. The fact that we are discussing it now proves that the principle >> works. All the same, I think the correct method would be to use an HPR show >> as a "container", with introductory content by the producers in addition to >> the podcast itself. I seem to recall at least one precedent for this >> approach. >> >> I would not object to HPR being used in this way for "first editions" of new >> tech-related podcasts. However if the same approach is attempted for future >> episodes then I think it should be resisted, otherwise HPR will run the risk >> of becoming hijacked as a distribution medium. >> >> Nige (Beeza) >> >> --- >> >> From: Hpr on behalf of >> yann...@frenchguy.ch >> Sent: 13 February 2020 12:40 >> To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> Subject: [Hpr] HPR 3009 >> >> Hello, fellow members of the HPR Community. >> >> I'm writting to you today, because I am concerned by episode 3009. >> >> This seems to me like a clear case of "syndication" : first the title, >> "Linux Inlaws S01 E01", and then the fact that there is no mention of HPR at >> all in the show. >> >> I had a discution with Ken about this, and I understand there are >> circumstances to kind of justify the presence of this show on HPR, but I am >> concerned that this kind of episode don't really belong - at least in this >> form - here. >> >> With another title, and an a proper acknoledgment on the recording, I would >> be fine. >> >> I am curious to know what the rest of the community thinks, as I'm pretty >> sure I cannot be the only one to feel this way. >> >> Cheers ! >> >> Yannick.___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] FW: HPR 3009
i do not feel a need to mention hpr within an episode... there is an intro and outro. as ken pointed out, it was exclusive and c.c. --brian Original Message On Feb 13, 2020, 06:40, Nigel Verity wrote: > Obviously there are no prizes for guessing the inspiration for this new > podcast. > > Viewed in isolation I am quite happy to give this new podcast a listen and, > as a means of getting its existence publicised, HPR is probably a valid > medium. The fact that we are discussing it now proves that the principle > works. All the same, I think the correct method would be to use an HPR show > as a "container", with introductory content by the producers in addition to > the podcast itself. I seem to recall at least one precedent for this approach. > > I would not object to HPR being used in this way for "first editions" of new > tech-related podcasts. However if the same approach is attempted for future > episodes then I think it should be resisted, otherwise HPR will run the risk > of becoming hijacked as a distribution medium. > > Nige (Beeza) > > --- > > From: Hpr on behalf of > yann...@frenchguy.ch > Sent: 13 February 2020 12:40 > To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > Subject: [Hpr] HPR 3009 > > Hello, fellow members of the HPR Community. > > I'm writting to you today, because I am concerned by episode 3009. > > This seems to me like a clear case of "syndication" : first the title, "Linux > Inlaws S01 E01", and then the fact that there is no mention of HPR at all in > the show. > > I had a discution with Ken about this, and I understand there are > circumstances to kind of justify the presence of this show on HPR, but I am > concerned that this kind of episode don't really belong - at least in this > form - here. > > With another title, and an a proper acknoledgment on the recording, I would > be fine. > > I am curious to know what the rest of the community thinks, as I'm pretty > sure I cannot be the only one to feel this way. > > Cheers ! > > Yannick.___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Harassment
i believe it does matter how the individuals behave, else there is nothing to discuss... this is the devolution of conversation that i was referring to, and i will not add to this amplification any longer. i have no information, and trust ken. --brian Original Message On Dec 16, 2019, 18:24, jason wrote: > In my opinion the point at hand is regarding how hpr behaves, not how the > harassed or harassed behaves. Those are important points but not really the > point of the discussion. > > On 12/16/19 7:33 PM, brian via Hpr wrote: > >> this kind of escalation seems to be common lately. let us not allow it to >> invade... our community is one of inclusiveness, and i have not seen the >> contrary, except for a brief spaceman/vulgarity moment. i feel we were civil >> in that instance, and we can remain so now. realize that tone and tact are >> left to be interpreted by the reader. paul was offering a positive thought >> in my opinion, while it may have been heard as callous to jason. i still >> have no context with this incident, so the discussion is of harassment in >> general. this has many connotations to us all. >> --brian >> Original Message >> On Dec 16, 2019, 16:30, Jason Scott < ja...@textfiles.com> wrote: >> >>> Spoken like someone who has never really been harassed. >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 1:34 PM Paul Quirk wrote: >>> >>>> At some point, those who are being harassed need to recognize the fact >>>> that they have the power to ignore their harassers and recognize that >>>> engaging with certain personalities that conflict with your own as a >>>> complete waste of your time. Just go on doing what you're doing; life's >>>> too short to not have fun, and I for one think that we should all >>>> consider that perhaps those who are harassing others have their own >>>> personal issues to deal with. If you think of your harasser as a 5 year >>>> old brat who never grew up beyond the playground taunts, it becomes much >>>> easier to dismiss them as such. Seriously though, mental illness is a >>>> big issue in today's high paced, highly competitive, stressed out and >>>> drugged up world, and often finding compassion for those you feel are >>>> harassing you can lead to a long term sense of well-being. That's >>>> another two cents from me, I'm almost up to a nickel now. :) >>>> >>>> On 2019-12-14 10:52 a.m., lostnbronx wrote: >>>>> When you think about it, it's surprising we haven't had this problem >>>>> before. Unless we did, and it just wasn't brought to light. >>>>> >>>>> Can we assume the harassment source was from within the community, and >>>>> not just from random trolls on the Internet? I think removing email >>>>> addresses of hosts is a great first step, at any rate. >>>>> >>>>> A CoC would give the admins the power to act without having to seek >>>>> community consensus on every incident. It would also provide clear >>>>> guidelines for community members and admins alike regarding how to >>>>> behave, and what will happen if you don't. >>>>> >>>>> It makes me sad that we need this, but I guess we were overdue. >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Hpr mailing list >>>>> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >>>>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Hpr mailing list >>>> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >>>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >> >> ___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Harassment
is this what we are talking about as far as harassment? i do not feel that this much more than a troll. --brian Original Message On Dec 16, 2019, 17:59, Jason Scott wrote: > Unsubscribe > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 7:45 PM brian via Hpr wrote: > >> i realize that i did not answer ken's question... yes ken i approve of the >> notice change. >> --brian___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Harassment
i realize that i did not answer ken's question... yes ken i approve of the notice change. --brian___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Harassment
this kind of escalation seems to be common lately. let us not allow it to invade... our community is one of inclusiveness, and i have not seen the contrary, except for a brief spaceman/vulgarity moment. i feel we were civil in that instance, and we can remain so now. realize that tone and tact are left to be interpreted by the reader. paul was offering a positive thought in my opinion, while it may have been heard as callous to jason. i still have no context with this incident, so the discussion is of harassment in general. this has many connotations to us all. --brian Original Message On Dec 16, 2019, 16:30, Jason Scott wrote: > Spoken like someone who has never really been harassed. > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 1:34 PM Paul Quirk wrote: > >> At some point, those who are being harassed need to recognize the fact >> that they have the power to ignore their harassers and recognize that >> engaging with certain personalities that conflict with your own as a >> complete waste of your time. Just go on doing what you're doing; life's >> too short to not have fun, and I for one think that we should all >> consider that perhaps those who are harassing others have their own >> personal issues to deal with. If you think of your harasser as a 5 year >> old brat who never grew up beyond the playground taunts, it becomes much >> easier to dismiss them as such. Seriously though, mental illness is a >> big issue in today's high paced, highly competitive, stressed out and >> drugged up world, and often finding compassion for those you feel are >> harassing you can lead to a long term sense of well-being. That's >> another two cents from me, I'm almost up to a nickel now. :) >> >> On 2019-12-14 10:52 a.m., lostnbronx wrote: >>> When you think about it, it's surprising we haven't had this problem >>> before. Unless we did, and it just wasn't brought to light. >>> >>> Can we assume the harassment source was from within the community, and >>> not just from random trolls on the Internet? I think removing email >>> addresses of hosts is a great first step, at any rate. >>> >>> A CoC would give the admins the power to act without having to seek >>> community consensus on every incident. It would also provide clear >>> guidelines for community members and admins alike regarding how to >>> behave, and what will happen if you don't. >>> >>> It makes me sad that we need this, but I guess we were overdue. >>> >>> ___ >>> Hpr mailing list >>> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >> >> ___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Harassment on HPR
perhaps we could remove the host links from the show page, and make people "find" the info on the "hosts" page... this wouldn't stop all harassment, but perhaps a little of the lazy kind... --brian Original Message On Dec 14, 2019, 07:58, stankd...@stankdawg.com wrote: > Unacceptable. If I need to get involved let me know. Everyone already hates > me already so I don’t kind pissing some people off if someone needs to be the > disciplinarian. > > Maybe I record an episode about why this community is so shitty to itself > sometimes? > > Sent from my iPhone. > >> On Dec 14, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Ken Fallon wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have had disturbing reports that multiple hosts have been harassed >> after posting shows to HPR. After further investigation I have no reason >> to doubt that these reports are anything but genuine. >> >> This has been a bit of a shock to me, as HPR has always seemed like a >> well-regulated community. I for one don't condone harassment or >> offensive behavior especially against people who have made the effort to >> contribute to the network. I believe that this is the view of the HPR >> Community in general, but I would like confirmation. >> >> Therefore I formally propose the following policy change. >> >> Modify http://hackerpublicradio.org/about.php#free_culture as follows: >> >> < Hacker Public Radio is dedicated to sharing knowledge >> --- >>> Hacker Public Radio is dedicated to sharing knowledge in a welcoming >> community that offers positive feedback and encourages respectful debate. >> >> I would appreciate your active response on this issue. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Ken Fallon >> http://kenfallon.com >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 >> >> ___ >> Hpr mailing list >> Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org >> http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > ___ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
[Hpr] uploads
greetings, i tried the ad...@hackerpublicradio.org address, and it bounced... perhaps it did go through as in previous years... i may have made a mess today, when i thought i would be able to upload from my work wifi on my mobile device... i have successfully uploaded hpr2747... if there are other shows "processing" for me, please remove them as they will not actually be shows. thank you. brian___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
Re: [Hpr] Call for shows
i lost my recording device with a few shows still on it... i know, i should have copied them, but i did not... i will record one tonight... --brian___ Hpr mailing list Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
