Odp: OT - Recommendations for issue/problem tracking software

2008-01-11 Thread Mariusz Stakowski
You can try RT  (Request Tracker) from Best Practical 
Solutions.
Pozdrowienia

Mariusz

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Finding subsequent JFCBX control blocks

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Quarendon
I have a quick question about how JFCBX control blocks are chained 
together.
If a dataset has more than 5 volume serial numbers, the JFCBEXAD field 
in the JFCB gives the SVA of the first JFCBX control block which 
contains overflow volume serial number information.


However the definition of the JFCBX, to me at least, seems ambigous as 
to how I find the next JFCBX. There seem to be two fields, JFCBXTTR, 
which contains the SVA of the next extension block, and JFCBXNXT which 
contains the address of the next JFCB extension. Do these amount to the 
same thing? Which should I use?


Many thanks.

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Re: Logical Processor assignment - Processor Weight

2008-01-11 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
John,

I know, this one is probably buried, I have to cleanup my mailbox so I
have to read all these... I just want to test my thinking a bit here...
As you know I got confused in the past, so no surprises there...

If the money is not forthcoming, and no real data-sharing is taking
place, it should be possible to get the utilization of the 2 CF's,
adjust all the non production LPARS to compensate for it, leaving the
prod LPAR with the rest. I have never worked in an Outsourcing-type
environment where prod LPARS probably need capping, but even so, if the
prod is capped at 400, then regular reports should show the un-used CPU,
and changes can be made according, but if the PROD is not capped... not
problem?

Herbie


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 Subject: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I have 823 MIPS processor Y02-2096 z9BC
 
 I have 4 LPARS and 2 CF
 
 PRODA
 DEVEA
 TESTA
 MAINA
 HSCF1
 HSCF2
 
 
 My requirement is to allocate
 400 MIPS to PRODA
 200 MIPS to DEVEA
 200 MIPS to TESTA
 23 MIPS to MAINA
 
 It should be capped so that LPARS can not use more than 
 allocated MIPS. I am
 not sure what weight to be assigned to HSCF1 and HSCF2 ?
 
 What should be my Change LPAR Control Panel settings so that 
 this can be
 achived ?

From what you stated, I think you have a problem.  I __assume__ that
HSCF1 and HSCF2 are the LPARs running the Coupling Facility code. Do you
have ICF or IFL processors? If not, then you must account for those
LPARs in your CP allocations, but you have not done so. It takes CPU
power to run the Coupling Facilities. You have a total of 823 MIPS to
allocate, and you have allocated all 823 MIPS to your z/OS LPARs. Where
are you getting the CPU to run the CF LPARs? IBM strongly recommends
that a CF LPAR run on a dedicated ICF processor. If you don't do this,
the z/OS systems which need the Coupling Facilities will be impacted.
So, my first strong recommendation is that you convince management to
order two ICF engines and dedicate them, one to each CF LPAR.

Once you have done that, then you can simply make the z/OS LPAR weights
equal to the MIPS to be allocated and CAP them. If you simply cannot do
that, then you'll need to __somehow__ figure out the minimal percentage
to give to the CF LPARS and do so. Those MIPS simply must come off the
top and cannot be used for z/OS. If you don't do this, then z/OS will
suffer because it will wait for the CF LPAR to do its thing. The z/OS
LPARs will simply not be able to be guaranteed the CPU MIPS that you
have specified. Can't be done. Don't even try. Forget it. 

Another thing to remember about the CF code is that it is designed as
active wait. That is, it does not normally issue a PSW wait. It loops,
testing for interrupts. This means that it runs at 100% of the CPU given
it. One thing that IBM has done to help in this situation is that you
can set the CF LPARs to not do active wait by issuing the the command
SET DYNDISP ON using the HMC. You do this by selecting the CF LPAR in
the CPC Images. You then double click on the Operating System
Message ICON on the right. In the Command: area at the bottom of the
page, you type in set dyndisp on (withouth the quotes, of course),
then click on Send. Again IBM does __NOT__ recommend using this in a
production environment. If you do, then z/OS responsiveness can be
seriously impacted. It is akin to running DB2 or CICS at too low a
priority and it becoming CPU starved.

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Re: CA-Endevor question.

2008-01-11 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS

Turns out that I needed the PRINT ELEMENT ... FROM DSNAME ... TO ... and
do it for each member.


Yes, and I am sure you can use the LIST command to generate the SCL that
will do this print for every member.

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Re: ZFS file mounts to a PC

2008-01-11 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:47:59 -0600, Michael Saraco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I try to map the network drive it just sits there trying to connect
and never connects.

Yes ZFS can be shared , and it works (we have the whole PDF IBM doc sitting
on a 3390 drive  and we read it from our XP work stations) .
As for why you have a problem , i think it looks like you are not authorised .
If the password of your workstation is propagated and different than your MVS
PW , you have to do some specific settings that i can't remember clearly  (
we use this since 6 years with HFS and now with ZFS without change) 
Try to see about a key in your windows registry called EnablePlainTextPassword
( watch the case ) 
The symptom you describe is very much what we got because of this missing
entry .  
Hope this helps
Bruno
Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr 

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Discrepancy between SMS cmd ISMF Option 10.3

2008-01-11 Thread Art
Does anyone else have this issue and know why.  
When I enter from the console D SMS,LIB(LIBATLGO),DETAIL 
 I see a scratch count of 9 for media 5 which is my ATL.
 
 ---
 MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH
 TYPE  COUNTTHRESHOLD  CATEGORY
 MEDIA5 9  5  0005  
 
 MEDIA748  5  0007  
 
 ---

And when you go to ISMF Option 10.3 the media5 scratch number is 8. 
Sometimes the difference is more. 
  
  LIBRARY  MEDIA5  MEDIA5  MEDIA7 MEDIA7  
  NAMESCR NUM SCR THRSCR NUMSCR THR 
  --(2)---   (20)--   -(21)--  -(24)--  -(25)-- 
  LIBATLGO   8   5  48 5

As you can see the media7 (vts) scratch count is the same. But never the 
Media 5. 

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OT: IBM gives ITANIUM five yearss to live

2008-01-11 Thread Phil Payne
I questioned PSI's choice of Itanium in the very first PSI analysis I did:

http://www.isham-research.co.uk/platslns.html

Now that discovery in the court case has blown away some of the mist and smoke, 
we can see the
game plan.  It was impossible for PSI to build a support structure like the old 
PCMs had -
there just isn't enough gross margin in the market, perhaps by an order of 
magnitude.

Fundamental (via T3 and CSI - and originally Intelliware) used IBM Business 
Partners and sold
Flex-ES mostly on IBM hardware.  It was obvious right from the start that this 
route wasn't
ever going to be available to PSI.  Competing for the partner as well as for 
the customer?

HP was the only company in the enterprise market with a suitable support 
structure.  And it
seems the guys at PSI wanted to get rich quick by talking up the product and 
market, and then
selling to HP at what I can only describe as a ludicrous valuation.  The 
lawsuit gave HP cold
feet - and the loss of HP caused a major problem.  Itanium is fundamentally an 
HP design -
Intel is merely the foundry and Itanium has virtually no role to play in any 
Intel roadmap.

But PSI was up a gum tree with its code dependency on Itanium - so it went to 
NEC.  A good
product, but a very different support model.  HP is on every street corner in 
Europe - in
Germany, for example, there is only one main NEC office.

When PSI lost HP, it lost a LOT more than the hardware platform.

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File Transfer Translation Encryption

2008-01-11 Thread Jim Marshall
I noticed on the list a question concerning file transfers bringing up the 
thought of tranlsation. Last year I submitted a White Paper to Cheryl Watson 
and she published in her newsletter in the summer.  I predict the question will 
be more and more discussed because of the reasons I explain below. 

Enjoy 


File Encryption - An IBM Enterprise Server Opportunity

There has been much recent emphasis on the security of data with the focus 
being placed on encryption.  But there are more fundamental issues being 
overlooked that lurk behind the requirement of data encryption.  There is no 
disputing the need to adequately secure data that is leaving or coming into 
the enterprise.  Until now, data being saved onto cartridges was often not 
encrypted, and was then entrusted to carriers and protectors who failed to do 
their duty.  Many recent cases of disaster-recovery dumps getting lost attest 
to that reality.  Encrypting data backup cartridges presents a few challenges 
with the biggest being key management.  Once an installation starts 
encrypting, then key management will always be an issue.  For a long time, file 
transfers of data in the clear (not encrypted) was thought to be safe if it 
were done using VPN (Virtual Private Network) clients - either running on a PC, 
or via site-to-site VPN links between companies, or via SSL (Secure Socket 
Layer) session encryption before transmission. But now the US Government 
has mandated that all files containing PII (Personally Identifiable 
Information) 
are to be encrypted before being transmitted.  It will probably be extended to 
much of the private sector, especially those companies that have US 
government contracts.  This mandate introduces a problem but also a 
tremendous opportunity for the IBM Enterprise Server or (what we used to 
call) the trusty mainframe.

For many years the transfer of files between platforms (mainframes, UNIX, 
Windows, Linux, etc.) has been happening throughout the organization, and 
also to places outside of the organization.  Secure FTP products are often 
being used, and sessions are secured using TLS or SSL, and sometimes a VPN 
tunnel.  With the introduction of encryption, this means a very fundamental 
change in the way people will need to work in the future. Today, when a file is 
transferred from an EBCDIC mainframe to an ASCII UNIX system, the 
translation of the data occurs on the receiving UNIX system.  It has been 
done this way because the receiving system knows what it is and knows what 
kind of ASCII is needed.  This is true for UNIX to Windows, Windows to Linux, 
mainframe to Windows, etc.  So it was never a problem for application 
systems being run by users because the translation requirement was handled 
automatically with the data arriving ready to use. One might assume that 
ASCII is universal but we learned recently that Windows ASCII is very close 
but not exactly the same as UNIX ASCII.

This became apparent to me because a requirement stated that when a 
Windows ASCII file was sent to the mainframe, it could not be modified.  I 
thought this was easy; because we would just accept the data as binary and 
send it forward to a UNIX system.  But the UNIX system support people 
reported problems with certain characters.  They were not happy with having 
to figure out why translation was not correct and with having to do further 
translation on their side.  After many discussions, the requirement was 
changed so that Windows ASCII was translated to mainframe EBCDIC and then 
to UNIX ASCII. This seemed to work and everyone was happy.  But now 
extend this scenario to non-technical people getting a file at some small 
server or PC.  They want the data arriving ready to use, but that may not be 
easy when you introduce the notion of the data arriving encrypted.

As a general rule, when one system encrypts its data before sending it, the 
receiving system will need to decrypt the data and have the responsibility of 
making sure any required translation is done so that the data is ready to use.  
Even assuming the receiving system has all the necessary translation utilities 
and tables, this still assumes a level of administrative intelligence that can 
determine what kind of system is sending you data. So all systems will need 
knowledge about the type of data they might potentially receive. This has 
now imposed the requirements of decrypting the received data, knowing what 
kind of system sent it, and executing a translation step after decryption to 
get the data into the format that the user expects.

Another thing to consider is what happens if some systems do not have the 
capability to handle the new translation workload.  Even if the systems could 
perform the translation, the requirement to know the format of the sending 
machine could force an administrative nightmare on everyone receiving files 
from another location.  This chaos is a tremendous opportunity for the 
Enterprise Server.  People with a 

Re: ZFS file mounts to a PC

2008-01-11 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Make sure the password you use to map the drive on your PC matches your
SMB password on the mainframe
(smbpw -pw1 passwrd -pw2 passwrd)  


Jon L. Veilleux
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:42 AM
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Subject: Re: ZFS file mounts to a PC

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:47:59 -0600, Michael Saraco
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I try to map the network drive it just sits there trying to 
connect and never connects.

Yes ZFS can be shared , and it works (we have the whole PDF IBM doc
sitting on a 3390 drive  and we read it from our XP work stations) .
As for why you have a problem , i think it looks like you are not
authorised .
If the password of your workstation is propagated and different than
your MVS PW , you have to do some specific settings that i can't
remember clearly  ( we use this since 6 years with HFS and now with ZFS
without change) Try to see about a key in your windows registry called
EnablePlainTextPassword ( watch the case ) The symptom you describe is
very much what we got because of this missing entry .  
Hope this helps
Bruno
Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr 

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Re: SRM constant

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:26:04 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If the LP's are varied on manually, the SRM constant is recalculated to
reflect the new configuration.  This does not take place if IRD does the
change.


No. It's not!
The SRM constant is constant.
It does not change during the life of the IPL.
-

Sorry to say, you are wrong Ted.  Just examine the RMCT using IPCS or
check out the SU/SEC in IPLINFO, ShowMVS, MXI, etc. after CONFIGing on
a CP.It is true that it does not change if IRD does the config.  I'm sure
it's documented.

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Re: SRM constant

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry to say, you are wrong Ted.  Just examine the RMCT using IPCS or check 
out the SU/SEC in IPLINFO, ShowMVS, MXI, etc. after CONFIGing ona CP.It is 
true that it does not change if IRD does the config.  I'm sure it's documented.

Okay. I'm wrong. Sorry.  (8-{}

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Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
I do not remember, if I ever knew, the SWIFT network backbone.  All I ever
had to deal with was writing the communications to send packets of
information to custodian banks.  About the time I started working on the
project, SWIFT was just getting started as, I believe, a rebadged version of
something else.  The name of which is totally lost in the recesses of my
mind.

My system was a combination of OS/2 and Windows (3.1 no less).  Because it
was trade (read mutual fund trade) based we could process over 65,000
transactions a day.  Of course the information packets were small, sometime
less than 256 bytes.  It sounds like your system was needed for much larger
file transfers which poses a different set of problems...

Not to start another stroll down the OS/2 lane, I remember someone asking me
why I did not write everything for Windows.  I tried to explain to him that
OS/2 would wrap the PID number and still keep on running.  I tried it with
Windows and after about 1,000 transactions it would crash because of memory
leaks or any host of other reasons.

Ah... those were the days... :)

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I don't recall too much about SWIFT. Just that it existed that is about all.
Was it connected with TANDEM (et al) ?
In anycase we had only two customers that didn't do SNA and I think one of
them was using RSCS (bisync I believe) and some RJE emulator oh yes JES3 I
had almost forgot. Bisync was pretty good (but not as good as SNA, IMO).
There were 3rd party options of course but that entailed a healthy invest in
software. The company I worked for was the cheapest of the cheap so any 50K
(or more) investment would have been looked on with extreme displeasure. We
did look at one or two but there were issue that we just could not live
with. One was that software (I am sorry  I can't remember the vendor name)
was a little (read a lot) OS dependent. I had talked to a user about
incompatibilities between the vendors software level. Trying to get everyone
synced up was a nightmare according to him (especially when it came to 200+)
. We wanted to make this as transparent as possible and we exceeded far
beyond my original estimates. The IBM utility we used was sold (it *NEVER
abended* because of program logic and we typically used it 10K times a day
(or more) the number of times a day gets a little murky as we had two data
centers and we transmitted to our DR site many times more files that 10K. I
can't say enough about a solid product like this was. Once installed it
hasn't been touched in 20 years over many OS releases and zero problems,
show me any equal numbers from any OEM and we can talk.

I am no longer with that company but I was pretty proud as to what I
implemented in such a short amount of time.

Ed


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Re: z/PoO (was: Radix Partition Trees)

2008-01-11 Thread Big Iron
You should be able to click on the book download icon next to the PDF
download icon in the left top area of the page to get a copy of the book in
.BOO format.

Bill

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:21:35 -0600, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:28:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Thank you; Thank you; Thank you!  A z/Architecture PoO in HTML;
Far more usable than PDF.

Of course, it's August 2003, but better than s/390.  Can anyone point
me to a newer one?  (We may have it on CD-ROM, but Bookie, then, not
HTML?)

It's actually a .BOO book, but served up by Bookserver, which converts it to
HTML on the fly.  I haven't been able to find a .BOO version of the POO that is
newer than the -3.  :(

It was on the z/OS 1.7 and earlier collections.

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Re: z/PoO (was: Radix Partition Trees)

2008-01-11 Thread Big Iron
Sorry, that should have been right top area.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:47:37 -0600, Big Iron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You should be able to click on the book download icon next to the PDF
download icon in the left top area of the page to get a copy of the book in
.BOO format.

Bill

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:21:35 -0600, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:28:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Thank you; Thank you; Thank you!  A z/Architecture PoO in HTML;
Far more usable than PDF.

Of course, it's August 2003, but better than s/390.  Can anyone point
me to a newer one?  (We may have it on CD-ROM, but Bookie, then, not
HTML?)

It's actually a .BOO book, but served up by Bookserver, which converts it to
HTML on the fly.  I haven't been able to find a .BOO version of the POO
that is
newer than the -3.  :(

It was on the z/OS 1.7 and earlier collections.

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Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
Interesting.

Thanks.

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:45 AM
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Subject: Re: File Transfer conundrum

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted
to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Green) writes:
 I lost track of who posted the original inquiry, so take this for what
 it's worth.

 If the requirement is in the financial industry, could the
 communications between the two/various systems use S.W.I.F.T. (Society
 for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications)?  It's been some
 time since I wrote anything for SWIFT, but it was extremely secure and
 most financial institutions should be linked in.

 When I did some work, it was used in the securities market, primarily
 for payments, foreign exchange, securities, etc...  However, there
 were rumblings that the SWIFT organization was thinking about opening
 up the network for other financial transactions; which I took to
 mean data exchange...

home page
http://www.swift.com/

swift-2 providing internet capability and opening up for b-to-b;

we had been brought in to consult with small client/server startup that
wanted to do payment transactions on their server; they also had this
technology they called SSL they wanted to use ... and result is sometimes
now called e-commerce. part of the effort was something called payment
gateway (transition between internet and acquiring networks)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

we then were involved in x9a10 financial standard working group (in the
mid-90s had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the
financial infrastructure for all retail payments) that resulted in the x9.59
financial standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959

some years ago we were also asked to provide some input to the swift-2 (what
it was called at the time) specification.

Connecting to the secure IP network (SIPN)
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=2304

from above:

SWIFTNet messaging services are provided via SWIFT's secure IP network
(SIPN), a highly secure and reliable network. Full redundancy, advanced
recovery mechanisms and first class operations and customer support services
ensure continuous network availability for SWIFTNet services.

... snip ..

SWIFTNet Interfaces Qualification
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=2451

other refs:

Securities Markets Infrastructures
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=2437

Banking Markets infrastructures
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=57981

from above:

Additionally, SWIFT is now complementing its position in the wholesale, high
value clearing market by extending its portfolio of SWIFTNet messaging
solutions to the low-value payments and ACH market.

... snip ...

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Re: Got DSN3107I FROM REXX CONSOLE SYSCMD command

2008-01-11 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 8:02:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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To set the base MVS console authority for your user, you need to update  the
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Don't think it has anything to do with MVS,  only DB2 authorities. Install 
adm, sysadm, DBADM. It's a hierarchy in DSNZPARM  customization. To grant lower 
you have to have higher 







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Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Green) writes:
 I lost track of who posted the original inquiry, so take this for what it's
 worth.

 If the requirement is in the financial industry, could the communications
 between the two/various systems use S.W.I.F.T. (Society for Worldwide
 Interbank Financial Telecommunications)?  It's been some time since I wrote
 anything for SWIFT, but it was extremely secure and most financial
 institutions should be linked in.

 When I did some work, it was used in the securities market, primarily for
 payments, foreign exchange, securities, etc...  However, there were
 rumblings that the SWIFT organization was thinking about opening up the
 network for other financial transactions; which I took to mean data
 exchange...

home page
http://www.swift.com/

swift-2 providing internet capability and opening up for b-to-b;

we had been brought in to consult with small client/server startup that
wanted to do payment transactions on their server; they also had this
technology they called SSL they wanted to use ... and result is
sometimes now called e-commerce. part of the effort was something called
payment gateway (transition between internet and acquiring networks)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#gateway

we then were involved in x9a10 financial standard working group (in the
mid-90s had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the
financial infrastructure for all retail payments) that resulted
in the x9.59 financial standard
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/x959.html#x959

some years ago we were also asked to provide some input to the swift-2
(what it was called at the time) specification.

Connecting to the secure IP network (SIPN)
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=2304

from above:

SWIFTNet messaging services are provided via SWIFT's secure IP network
(SIPN), a highly secure and reliable network. Full redundancy, advanced
recovery mechanisms and first class operations and customer support
services ensure continuous network availability for SWIFTNet services.

... snip ..

SWIFTNet Interfaces Qualification
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=2451

other refs:

Securities Markets Infrastructures
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=2437

Banking Markets infrastructures
http://www.swift.com/index.cfm?item_id=57981

from above:

Additionally, SWIFT is now complementing its position in the wholesale,
high value clearing market by extending its portfolio of SWIFTNet
messaging solutions to the low-value payments and ACH market.

... snip ...

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dean Montevago
I'm in the same boat. I'd like the address also.

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Raymond,

I'm lazy - what address do you FTP them too? I expect I could find it on the 
web site. 

Right now I use the web interface and upload them that way but if I could add 
an ftp step to the job that would save the manual effort.

Alan 

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We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

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Re: JES2 and $VS RACF protection

2008-01-11 Thread R.S.

Michael Babcock wrote:
What is the process for checking commands entered when using $VS?  I can 
protect the use of $VS using the JES2.$VS profile but there doesn't 
appear to be any granularity for which commands can be entered.


Let's say the following is found in JCL.

/*$VS,ROUTE node1,someCommand
JES2 checks the $VS profile and if allowed with let the command proceed. 
But, does MVS/RACF also check to see if you have authority to 
MVS.ROUTE.CMD?

Yes.


Or is the check bypassed since you had auth to $VS?

No. I remember a case when $VS was allowed, but MVS command inside not.

Also, to protect the /*ROUTE XEQ node1 command, I need the WRITER class 
active with a profile of JES2.NJE.node1, correct?

It depends on system and mean of protection.
WRITER can protect sending system (who can send something over NJE). 
However IMHO the most important in this scenario is receiving system. On 
this system protections is through NODES profile. I don't remember exact 
profile, but this one for commands contain RUSER qualifier.


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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Field, Alan C.
Raymond,

I'm lazy - what address do you FTP them too? I expect I could find it on the 
web site. 

Right now I use the web interface and upload them that way but if I could add 
an ftp step to the job that would save the manual effort.

Alan 

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Raymond Noal
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 19:57
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports

We FTP our SCRT reports to IBM and they have no problem with this approach.

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

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Re: SRM constant

2008-01-11 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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Since I was the one who originally said that the SRM constant didn't
change on either manual changes or IRD changes and others disagreed I
decided to investigate.  I already know IRD doesn't change it; IRD takes
CPs on and off here all the time.  I went out to one of our sandbox
LPARs and added (and subtracted) CPs, and sure enough, the SRM constant
isn't!

Thanks to everyone who pointed this out.  Once people started
questioning it, I realized I didn't know that answer for sure, so I did
some checking on my own.  I can state for certain that on z/OS 1.7
manually configuring CPs on and off does change the SRM constant.  I'll
be sure to mention that at Share, believe me - and give credit to
IBM-MAIN for helping make sure I got it right.

Jim Horne
Lowe's Companies, Inc.

Mark Zelden wrote:
Just examine the RMCT using IPCS or
check out the SU/SEC in IPLINFO, ShowMVS, MXI, etc. after CONFIGing on
a CP.It is true that it does not change if IRD does the config.  I'm
sure
it's documented.

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Re: z/PoO (was: Radix Partition Trees)

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:28:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Thank you; Thank you; Thank you!  A z/Architecture PoO in HTML;
Far more usable than PDF.

Of course, it's August 2003, but better than s/390.  Can anyone point
me to a newer one?  (We may have it on CD-ROM, but Bookie, then, not
HTML?)

It's actually a .BOO book, but served up by Bookserver, which converts it to 
HTML on the fly.  I haven't been able to find a .BOO version of the POO that is 
newer than the -3.  :(

It was on the z/OS 1.7 and earlier collections.

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Console

2008-01-11 Thread Ron Wells
Anyone use a IOGEAR/Miniview 8 port KVM and encounter duplicated key 
strokes ??  maybe keyboard problem??

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Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:54:23 -0700, Roger Bolan wrote:

I agree with John.  TERSE is the simplest.   You just terse the file on
the source z/OS system, then use binary for all transfers.   Then there is
no problem of EBCDIC/ASCII, or RDW.  The binary file arrives unchanged.
Then use TERSE to unpack it and it automatically restores the correct DCB
attributes.   The only thing I have ever had to remember to do was specify
directory blocks when untersing a PDS and no directory blocks for a
sequential file.

If the file gets to an intermediate server where you can use FTP from your
target z/OS system to get it directly, then you can do this:

BINARY   don't forget this.  ASCII mode by default does not work for
traces
LOCSITE recfm=fb lrecl=1024 cylinders primary=100 secondary=10 blksize=0
 this is the key to doing this from my MVS
mget Px.* ( replace case sensitive on the file names
quit to get out of FTP

How much of this stuff couldn't be automated with a well-designed tool?

(see:

z/OS V1R7.0 DFSMSdfp Utilities
B.0   Appendix B.  Unload Partitioned Data Set Format

... )

The header records of the unload data set contain most (all?) of this
information.  I've experimented with doing this in a Rexx program.
IIRC, the only way I could infer the directory block count was to
read the directory block records and count them; the only way I could
infer space was to make a guess based on the size of the unload
data set.

But SMP/E does this well for its TLIBs; the packager doesn't need to
specify any information to IEBCOPY -- it gets it all from the DSCB,
and the installer specifies only DSPREFIX to SMP/E -- it dynamically
allocates based on the information in the unload data set (but does
it need two passes to do this?)  Couldn't TERSE do as well if the
developers chose to do so?

-- gil

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Re: OT - Recommendations for issue/problem tracking software

2008-01-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
we still have a user using Mckinney DP manager which runs on CICS.
you can probably download a trial copy of it from Mackinney.

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Please forgive me for posting to the list but I need suggestions from
people 
with similar backgrounds and experiences.

Please please please reply back directly to my email address: 
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We're a small mainframe software development shop. We need a decent but 
simple issue/problem tracking software product to document and manage 
development requests, support issues, etc. Nothing elaborate. We're
looking 
for people with similar experiences who can give recommendations.

On the one hand, we want to be able to fully access this product via a
WEB 
browser from anywhere worldwide. On the other hand, we would prefer to 
have it installed within our own site's remote hosted domain and not
rely on an 
external company's hosted tracking software services (these are most 
common).

The problem with having it installed in our own domain is that we are
remotely 
hosted. We do not have our own in-house Web server machine. The products

we've seen so far that provide end user access via the Web, also require
that 
the server be physically available to the installer. Since we are
remotely 
hosted by a web hosting company, these packages are therefore not 
applicable, from what we are reading.

So the main question is does anyone know of a good simple tracking
product 
that we ourselves can upload and install to our remotely hosted web
server? I 
assume such an installation would require us to install the files on a
local 
machine, upload them to our remote hosted server via FTP or similar and
then 
run some script to complete and customize the install. Again, we're not
looking 
for anything fancy.

If such a product does not exist, we'll have to think about one of the
hosted 
issue tracking services. Our concerns are reliability, availability and
security. 
When I say availability, besides 24x7, I'm interested in a company
that's 
been around for years and looks like it will not close tomorrow night.

TIA and remember: email me back directly with your comments.

Jerry

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Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:45:10 -0500, Anne  Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

http://www.swift.com/

swift-2 providing internet capability and opening up for b-to-b;

There is a good introduction to how SWIFT works in Ross Anderson's book
Security Engineering. The book is now available online, and SWIFT is in
section 9.3.1 of http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/SE-09.pdf .

I highly recommend this book, and there's a new edition coming out in a
couple of months.

Tony H.

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes:
 Since the other thread on this topic went off in a seriously OT 
 direction I'll comment on this thread.

 That original article seemed to imply that the problem was language-
 based.  I've been out of touch with the educational system(s) far
 too long to have a really know what is currently taught and how it
 is taught.   I have trouble believing that switching from Java to 
 C, C++, LISP, and Ada is going to fix the problem.  (Is Ada common
 in CS curriculum?  I notice the authors work at an Ada development
 shop.  They may be a bit biased.)

 I think their comment that Java encourages a pick a tool that works
 mentality may be right on, though.  

 Rick Fochtman's question about Radix Partition Tress would make a 
 good test for CS students.  I picture a blank stare on the student's
 faces, but I would love to be shown wrong.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#64 Radix Partition Trees

there is independent thread in a.f.c regarding the same article, some of
the posts:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#44 Computer Science Education: Where Are 
the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#46 Computer Science Education: Where Are 
the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#56 Computer Science Education: Where Are 
the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#57 Computer Science Education: Where Are 
the Software Engineers of  Tomorrow?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#62 competitiveness

part of it related to reduced math requirements and part of it related
to java (including some mention of java early days).

as noted in the radix partition trees thread ... some of luther's work
showed up in mainframe instructions.

i had been involved in the original relational/sql implementation,
system/r
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr

and technology transfer to endicott for sql/ds. for other topic drift
... one of the people in the meeting referenced here ... had mentioned
that they had done much of the work for the technology transfer back
from endicott to stl for db2
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/95.html#13

about the same time as the original relational/sql work, I also was
involved doing some stuff with a similar, but different kind of dbms
implementation (joint project between some people in stl and the los
gatos vlsi group). this had some of the similar objectives as the
relational/sql activity ... but significantly relaxed the requirements
for structured data definition ... and used radix partition trees for
its indexing structure (and the person involved in the two mainframe
instructions was brought in to consult on some of the work).

there was some differences between the old-style '60s DBMS contingent in
STL and the relational/sql contingent ... with the '60 DBMS contingent
pointing out that relational/sql typically doubled the physical disk
requirements (for the table indexes) and also greatly increased the
physical disk i/os (for processing the indexes). the relational/sql
contingent countered that the use of indexes was part of eliminating the
direct record pointer paradigm (that were characteristic of the '60
DBMS) as well as all the associated administrative overhead.

during the 80s, things started to tip towards relational/sql ...  with
disk cost/byte significantly reduced and significant increases in system
real storages (allowing index caching, eliminating many of the
additional index disk physical i/os)  aka change in hardware cost
tradeoff versis administrative/skill overhead.

for other drift, a totally independent implementation i use for
maintaining the rfc index information
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietff.htm

as well as the merged glossary/taxonomy information
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/index.html

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Topic denotation suggestion (a Virtual Darren)

2008-01-11 Thread tony babonas
Let's start marking our subject lines On Topic in order to identify the
few posts that
actually relate to IBM mainframe software and topics.

;-D


 

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Re: COBOL Application Programming Training

2008-01-11 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:07 -0600, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have a customer that needs to send someone (a new programmer) to COBOL
classes.  They don't seem to offer any at IBM anymore.  Does anyone have 
any
suggestions?  They are looking for something preferably in the Chicago area,
but will take other locations as well.
Thanks,


It's been 30 seconds and Steve C hasn't responded yet ??? I wonder if he's 
sick ???

Check the archives for Trainer's Friend - Steve Comstock. We've used his 
firm in the past for assember brush-up. His COBOL and LE offerings seem to be 
pretty comprehensive.

He'll even come to you ! Chicago isn't as exotic as the far east, but I 
think 
he'll consider it.

Good Luck

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Re: Radix Partition Trees

2008-01-11 Thread Kirk Talman
We recently had to solve that problem -- again.  Our table was 18 million 
entries.

In the past I used simple hashing:

adding the bytes of the key together and using the rightmost byte as 
index to a table of 256 string heads.

the most recent occasion had worst case scenario data -- only 10 hashes 
were formed.  The quick fix was to add the 1st, 3rd, 5th, ... bytes to the 
accumulator, but add the 2nd, 4th, 6th, ... bytes shifted left by 4 bits. 
Got the worst case up to 100+ hashes which seems to get us out of the 
woods.

If there is any chance the table might get paged (we did when I first 
worked on this here), allocate new entries a page at a time.  Make the 
free element table also have 256 entries.  This gives storage isolation 
for another performance boost.

We are still looking at the most recent worst case (it is part of a 100# 
in a 5# bag problem).  When I have time I am going to increase the table 
to 1024 enties (one page) to see if there is any benefit.  If it seems 
there is I will use a three step hash w/ 3 bit offset.

Note our emergency solution was to partition the whole problem into 9 
segments and then get each segment into 6 parallel processing runs.  We 
are trying to get a batch year-end process to finish before the end of the 
1st quarter.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/10/2008 
09:38:42 PM:

 Has anyone every seen any doc on using radix partition trees? I'm 
 thinking it may have been one of the rainbow books.

 I vaguely remember data tree structures and I've got a table search 
 problem that might be the perfect application for a tree-structured data 

 repository. The table might have up to 1,000,000 entries, all in 
 storage, and a balanced n-ary tree has GOT to be faster than using a 
 binary search. The nature of the data is such that a plain old-fashioned 

 list, in sorted order, isn't real amenable to a binary search, either.



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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Dean Montevago
Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one
page, print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a
heads-up, email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I do know that
they use the emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price
increase just last quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed
copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If
I knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just
schedule the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and
email the report to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to
other interested parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all
those monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it
like that ?

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Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it
?

TIA
Dean

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Re: SMS ACS Routine Coding

2008-01-11 Thread Duane Reaugh
Hello

Allocation Control Center (ACC) from DTS Software can set the SMS Classes so 
you could use instead of robust ACS routines. ACC can also set fields so you 
would not have to have one DATACLAS with RLSE set and one without. We have 
customers that use ACC to override SMS classes like if the MGMTCLAS is  
then the STORCLAS should not be .

SMS/Debug is part of ACC and also sold as a separate product. SMS/Debug can 
trace your ACS routine, both the Active SCDS and an SCDS, includes a testing 
environment similar to Naviquest but you can NOT use SMS/Debug to replace ACS 
routines. It is great for answering the question How did this dataset end up 
in that STORCLAS.  It also includes SMS Volume Selection tracing and DADSM 
exit tracing.

Sorry for the commercial but I just wanted to clear up the discussion.

Duane Reaugh
Tech Support
DTS Software

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AGULLO
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:48 AM
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Lizette,

be careful, SMS Debug doesn't translate the ACS Routines, it's just a trace for 
tell wich volume is used and why. But sometimes it's difficult to write a new 
ACS or upgrade an old ACS. With SMS Debug, you can make the same thing with a 
language easier than ACS and more understanding. It wil be easier to modify the 
rules after, and the rules are dynamycs, you can change the rules at any time 
and make a refresh by a command on the console F DIF,REFRESH. The language is 
just a part of ACC.

I hope that you understand my english.

Marc.


2008/1/10, Marc AGULLO [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Lizette,

 actually, SMS Debug is a short part of SCC ACC and you can trace the 
 ACS routines and replace its with a new rules coded by SCC.

 Marc


 2008/1/10, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I thought SMS Debug just allowed you to test your ACS code not code 
  it.  I thought it was more like ACC or SRS that did the ACS 
  routines.
 
  I will have to review the manual more.
 
  Lizette
 
  
   You can replace your ACS routines by the product SMS/Debug from
  company
   DTS
   Software in USA. in place of complicated language you have rules
  simple
   to
   write with a language close to basic or rexx.
  
 
  
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Determining when a processor comes online/goes offline

2008-01-11 Thread David Day
The recent discussion on SRM constant made me realize I need to add some 
logic to some code.  I want to be able to recognize when processors are added 
and/or removed from the MVS image.  As best as I can determine from the 
manuals, setting up a System Listener for ENF events appears to be the way to 
go.  Look for system event 61, and then execute CSRSI. In the data returned by 
CSRSI 
  
SI22V1CONFIGUREDCPUCOUNT DS BL2 A 16-bit unsigned binary integer that  *
 specifies the total number of CPUs that are   *
 in the configured state. A CPU is in the  *
 configured state when it is in the*
 configuration and available to be used to *
 execute programs.  
 
The above field should tell me the number of CPU's that are active.

Will this work?  Anyone who has been down this path before and who would 
comment, I would appreciate it.

--Dave Day

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Re: File Transfer conundrum

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
Okay Bruce...  I forgot that you were the poster.  I believe another forum
member mentioned this...

Would XMIT/RECEIVE work?  I ask because at another location/client there was
a need to keep backup copies of numerous mainframe files off of the
mainframe.  So on a periodic basis, a mainframe job would kick off, unload
the files to XMIT format and then FTP that file down to a PC/workstation
attached to the host network.  On that workstation I had a VB script that
would monitor the incoming directory and whenever it found a new file it
would then either email or FTP the file to another location. (email or FTP
was destination specific).  Once the file was sent, it would be moved to
another directory to get it out of the way...  Worked great!

During testing I had a receive job defined to the job scheduler so
whenever a specific file was created, the receive job would be kicked off
using the file name as a JCL parameter.  This file would then be received
back into the original format.  To test the process I would drag-n-drop a
file into a different PC/workstation directory (separate from the one
mentioned above).  Another VB script would see the new file and then FTP
that file to the host.  Once there, the job would be kicked off and the file
received.

Again, JMTC

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I'm the original poster, and yours is an intersting thought.  There's no
financial partners involved that I know of, and S.W.I.F.T. would not really
be applicable.

Some of the other posters mentioned security issues, and they're not really
a concern here since the transfers that occur on public networks are done
securely and encrypted.  At issue, I think are the data conversions at
either end, which, with FTP require knowledge of the Code Pages and
converstions that have taken place.


On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:10:04 -0500, Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] SYSTEMS.COM
wrote:

I lost track of who posted the original inquiry, so take this for what
it's worth.

If the requirement is in the financial industry, could the
communications between the two/various systems use S.W.I.F.T. (Society
for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications)?  It's been some
time since I wrote anything for SWIFT, but it was extremely secure and
most financial institutions should be linked in.

When I did some work, it was used in the securities market, primarily
for payments, foreign exchange, securities, etc...  However, there were
rumblings that the SWIFT organization was thinking about opening up the
network for other financial transactions; which I took to mean data
exchange...

JMTC

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On Jan 10, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Hal Merritt wrote:

 My guess is that many shops are implementing PC to PC transfers and
 buying some really expensive software to facilitate the process.
 That is
 hostpcnetworkpchost.

 So far, we have been somewhat successful in insisting on a fully
 automated, z/os based solution on our side. Our most compelling
 argument is that we are not supposed to move sensitive data in the
 open over any network, nor is the data supposed to reside in the open
 on any server, even in a buffer. As much as the PC folks don't like
 to admit it, they simply cannot meet that requirement.  They can come
 close, but there seems to always be a point where the data can be
 intercepted.



Hal,

Even though my bosses boss was big on PC's he also knew that PC file
transfer was well lets say less than perfect. He was the person who
pushed SNA and made the budget available to convert to SNA and the
hardware associated with it. He lobbied for the money because he knew
that pc file transfer in the financial community was less than good.
We in the financial community put data integrity on a pedestal that
tested everything every step of the way. A long time ago they had an
OEM (name
withheld) vendor and there was no data integrity checking all they
cared about was being cheap. We were racked over the coals all the time
as we
were
essentially sending out good data but the data along the line was being
corrupted somewhere along the line.
Usually it was a some important field that needed to have to have the
entire file retransmitted. more than a few times a broker could not
trade any X because data from our company was less than lets say
accurate due to transmission and or equipment. Our side sent it out OK
but somewhere along the line after it left something got corrupted.
After we ditched the OEM vendor and we went to SNA we never had one
piece of data go bad. We had cases where there was a tape issue on the
receiving (data check or broken tape etc) that 

Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:13:53 -0500, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

...
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/01/08/0348239.shtml

http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.ht
ml
...

Since the other thread on this topic went off in a seriously OT 
direction I'll comment on this thread.

That original article seemed to imply that the problem was language-
based.  I've been out of touch with the educational system(s) far
too long to have a really know what is currently taught and how it
is taught.   I have trouble believing that switching from Java to 
C, C++, LISP, and Ada is going to fix the problem.  (Is Ada common
in CS curriculum?  I notice the authors work at an Ada development
shop.  They may be a bit biased.)

I think their comment that Java encourages a pick a tool that works
mentality may be right on, though.  

Rick Fochtman's question about Radix Partition Tress would make a 
good test for CS students.  I picture a blank stare on the student's
faces, but I would love to be shown wrong.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: COBOL Application Programming Training

2008-01-11 Thread August Carideo
look under application programming

http://www.techknowledge.com/courses/




   
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:59:07 -0600, Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have a customer that needs to send someone (a new programmer) to COBOL
classes.  They don't seem to offer any at IBM anymore.  Does anyone have
any
suggestions?  They are looking for something preferably in the Chicago
area,
but will take other locations as well.
Thanks,


It's been 30 seconds and Steve C hasn't responded yet ??? I wonder if he's
sick ???

Check the archives for Trainer's Friend - Steve Comstock. We've used his
firm in the past for assember brush-up. His COBOL and LE offerings seem to
be
pretty comprehensive.

He'll even come to you ! Chicago isn't as exotic as the far east, but I
think
he'll consider it.

Good Luck

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Re: Got DSN3107I FROM REXX CONSOLE SYSCMD command

2008-01-11 Thread Scott Fagen
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:56:57 -0600, Yan Ying wrote:
I use a REXX to inquire DB2 BUFFERPOOL detail status.I use
CONSPROF / CONSOLES / CONSOLE SYSCMD command to get
the info.But I can only get msg DSN3107I.
DSN3107I - DSN3EC0X -COMMAND REJECT.REQUESTOR NOT
AUTHORIZED.
I have another REXX work like that to gather system info
(like'D IPLINFO') can work good.
IBMBOOK said:the CSECT DSN3EC0X has discovered that the source of the
command was a console that does not have 'system' authority.
How can i have the system authorize?Did anyone do job like that?

The answer is:  it depends...

1) Is the OPERCMDS class active in your security product?
If so, then you need to give your console authority to the appropriate operator
command profile.

2) I am not sure what 'system' authority means.  Base MVS console authority
comes in a few flavors:
o  INFO  (authorized to issue a smattering of display-only commands)
o  SYS   (authorized to issue smattering of 'system related' commands)
o  I/O(authorized to issue smattering of 'I/O device related' commands)
o  CONS (authorized to issue smattering of 'console configuration related'
commands)
o  MASTER (can issue all system commands)

To set the base MVS console authority for your user, you need to update the
OPERPARM segment associated with your userid.

Scott Fagen
Enterprise Systems Management

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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Tom Moulder wrote:
 If you have EMC DASD, then you can contact them for information about three
 erasures offerings.  The offerings are from low to high in terms of data
 erasure certification and government clearances.  The highest certification
 level is an internal program that insures all data is erased and can not be
 retrieved.  Be prepared also to spend some time achieving the highest level
 of certification.  Hopefully the frame has been disconnected from the
 mainframe when you finally do this and so there is no impact on production
 work.

 Tom Moulder 


   
Our requirement is more for the end of our Disaster Recovery tests. We
know that we can contract with them to perform the erasure but I am in
the information gathering phase of the project now.

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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
both happy and prime. 

Doctor Who episode 42

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SCOPE=COMMON in data spaces

2008-01-11 Thread Larry Dinwiddie
I'm trying to create a data space with the SCOPE=COMMON parameter.  I'm
in key 0, supervisor state and have linked as 31-bit AMODE.

I am getting a system abend code 01D reason xxzz14xx from the DSPSERV
macro.

This indicates I am NOT in 31-bit addressing - I can change the program
to SCOPE=SINGLE and everything works.

I have tested this on z/OS 1.5 and z/OS 1.8 and it fails on both for the
same reason.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Larry Dinwiddie

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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Larry Crilley
Add the XTINCT product from Dino-Software to your information gathering.  We
began advertising this tool in last months z-journal.

 
Larry Crilley
Dino-Software Corporation
800.480.DINO
412.366.3566
www.dino-software.com
 
Dino-Software Utilities
T-REX - Superior catalog management tool inclusive of HSM  Tape audits 
REORGadon - First REORG While-OPEN tool for HSM
Teradon - First ever OnLine REPRO MERGECAT utility 
Xtinct - DASD Data purge 
RTD - DASD Real Time Defrag 
DAL - Analysis for Legato in an easy to view format

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Outside of FDRERASE and good old ICKDSF are there any products in the
market that can erase data from mainframe DASD?

I didn't see anything in the CBT archive for DASD, just some tape
erasure programs.
* *

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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
both happy and prime. 

Doctor Who episode 42

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Identifying GDG datasets in a deferred status

2008-01-11 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
I have created a jcl to list all the GDG datasets that are in a deferred 
status.  
Unfortunately, the jcl is lengthy and runs quite a while because I had to 
perform the following steps to filter out only the datasets I wanted :

STEP1.  Perform an IDCAMS LISTCAT UCAT ALL to a dataset to identify all the 
user catalogs.

STEP2.  Sort include only the catalog names and reformat the output to 
format the IDCAMS spread cards LISTC NVSAM HIST CAT [the catalog name].

STEP3.  Perform the IDCAMS LISTC from the dataset created in STEP2.

STEP4.  Perform another SORT against the output of STEP3 and include only 
the records that contain GDG BASE and reformat the output to format the 
IDCAMS spread cards LISTC NVSAM HIST GDG ENT [gdg base name].

STEP5.  Perform the actual IDCAMS LISTC from the dataset created in STEP4.

STEP6.  SORT include only the records that contain NONVSAM and STATUS 
which gives me all the GDG entries and their status.  I then perform a search 
on deferred to find if there are any GDGs in a deferred rollin status.

This seems like a lot of rigmarole just to be able to find out what gdgs are in 
a 
deferred status.

Does anyone have a better/faster/reliable way to do this?

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Jon Brock
The authors were discussing the use of Java as the students' *first*
programming language.  

Anyway, I'm not so sure I hold to the it's just another language
mindset as much as I used to.  It seems to me that there are important
differences between the way you conceive of and design a program in
assembler/COBOL/C versus, say, Ruby or Java. 

Jon



snip
   Why should what language is taught matter, after the second or third
language, IF you are a programmer, it's just another language. Mostly
syntax, some semantics.
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Re: Identifying GDG datasets in a deferred status

2008-01-11 Thread Larry Crilley
Yes.  The T-REX LISTCAT could do this for you quite easily.  If you want
more details, feel free to call/email me directly.

 
Larry Crilley
Dino-Software Corporation
800.480.DINO
412.366.3566
www.dino-software.com
 
Dino-Software Utilities
T-REX - Superior catalog management tool inclusive of HSM  Tape audits 
REORGadon - First REORG While-OPEN tool for HSM
Teradon - First ever OnLine REPRO MERGECAT utility 
Xtinct - DASD Data purge 
RTD - DASD Real Time Defrag 
DAL - Analysis for Legato in an easy to view format

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:11 PM
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Subject: Identifying GDG datasets in a deferred status

I have created a jcl to list all the GDG datasets that are in a deferred
status.  
Unfortunately, the jcl is lengthy and runs quite a while because I had to 
perform the following steps to filter out only the datasets I wanted :

STEP1.  Perform an IDCAMS LISTCAT UCAT ALL to a dataset to identify all the 
user catalogs.

STEP2.  Sort include only the catalog names and reformat the output to 
format the IDCAMS spread cards LISTC NVSAM HIST CAT [the catalog name].

STEP3.  Perform the IDCAMS LISTC from the dataset created in STEP2.

STEP4.  Perform another SORT against the output of STEP3 and include only 
the records that contain GDG BASE and reformat the output to format the 
IDCAMS spread cards LISTC NVSAM HIST GDG ENT [gdg base name].

STEP5.  Perform the actual IDCAMS LISTC from the dataset created in STEP4.

STEP6.  SORT include only the records that contain NONVSAM and STATUS 
which gives me all the GDG entries and their status.  I then perform a
search 
on deferred to find if there are any GDGs in a deferred rollin status.

This seems like a lot of rigmarole just to be able to find out what gdgs are
in a 
deferred status.

Does anyone have a better/faster/reliable way to do this?

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
This is how I send files in a batch job...

//MAILFILE PROC SOUT='*',
// DS='???',
// EMAILADR='???'
//
//****
//
//IEBGENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=SOUT
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=SOUT
//SYSUT1DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.TEST.SYSIN(EMAILADR)
//  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DS
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(B,SMTPB),
//  DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80,RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS)
//SYSIN DD DUMMY

The contents of the SYSIN file...
HELO SBCSF1
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
FROM: Gary Green
TO:   ..
SUBJECT:  Emailed file


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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:51 AM
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Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I do know that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

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Subject: Re: Sub-CEC Reports


Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
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Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Outside of FDRERASE and good old ICKDSF are there any products in the
market that can erase data from mainframe DASD?

I didn't see anything in the CBT archive for DASD, just some tape
erasure programs.
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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
both happy and prime. 

Doctor Who episode 42

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Re: Can a pdf document be create using COBOL?

2008-01-11 Thread Warner Mach
I have played around with XMITIP and TXT2PDF to some extent.
I have also discussed the DATA21 PDF product with one of the
representatives of that company.
  .
The problem with the XMITIP system (from our perspective) is
that it does not have an 'overlay' feature (which we could 
really use for W-2s). The problem with the DATA21 product is
that the PDF portion requires going to a PC as intermediary;
which introduces security problems, along with political 
issues.
  .
The ideal situation would be an add-on to XMITIP which would
provide the free product with overlays and no need to use 
a PC ... One can dream.

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
 
 [ snip ]
 
 There isn't an awfully lot of conceptual difference between
 programming a report on CoBOL or creating a video on iMovie.   

On the contrary, there is a fundamental difference:

In programming a report on COBOL you are building the machine that
will accept the raw materials and produce the finished product.  In
creating a video on iMovie you are providing the raw materials and
(eventually) receiving the finished product from a machine that is
already built.

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DFHSM - PARSING ERROR

2008-01-11 Thread willie bunter
Hallo All,
   
  I am attempting to fix a problem.  A dataset which was migrated (ml2) with no 
backup, was deleted.
   
  I created the catalog entry and in the process of trying to perform the 
AUDIT.  I am encountering a parsing error and I am unable to figure out where 
my mistake is.  Could someone please advise me as to how I can correct this 
error? Below is the erro message output:
  HSEND AUDIT MEDCTL VOLUMES(MD0038) FIX SERIALIZATION(CONTINOUS)
   
  The command is not successful.  Below is the error message:
  ARC1001I AUDIT MEDCTL VOLUMES(MD0038) FIX SERIALIZATION(CONTINOUS) COMMAND
  ARC1001I (CONT.) FAILED, RC=0005, REAS=0004   
  ARC1605I COMMAND HAD PARSE ERROR  
   
  Thanks to all in advance

   
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COBOL Application Programming Training

2008-01-11 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Hi Everyone,
I have a customer that needs to send someone (a new programmer) to COBOL
classes.  They don't seem to offer any at IBM anymore.  Does anyone have any
suggestions?  They are looking for something preferably in the Chicago area,
but will take other locations as well.
Thanks,

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Re: DFHSM - PARSING ERROR

2008-01-11 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
There are two u's in CONTINUOUS.

-Original Message-
From: willie bunter [mailto:SNIP] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:16 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM - PARSING ERROR

Hallo All,
   
  I am attempting to fix a problem.  A dataset which was migrated (ml2)
with no backup, was deleted.
   
  I created the catalog entry and in the process of trying to perform
the AUDIT.  I am encountering a parsing error and I am unable to figure
out where my mistake is.  Could someone please advise me as to how I can
correct this error? Below is the erro message output:
  HSEND AUDIT MEDCTL VOLUMES(MD0038) FIX SERIALIZATION(CONTINOUS)
   
  The command is not successful.  Below is the error message:
  ARC1001I AUDIT MEDCTL VOLUMES(MD0038) FIX SERIALIZATION(CONTINOUS)
COMMAND
  ARC1001I (CONT.) FAILED, RC=0005, REAS=0004

  ARC1605I COMMAND HAD PARSE ERROR 

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Some OO languages produce lots of memory leaks in the real world - but there 
aren't nearly so many memory leaks in the procedural world.

Is that the fault of the compiler or the programmer?
When I learned C++, I was taught about cleaning up after yourself, just like I 
was with COBOL or assemblker.
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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
And one of the biggest problems with OOP is the use of object libraries. For 
__beginning__ students, using OOP usually means just wiring together a 
number of pre-existing objects, or maybe just
extending an existing object. WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING HOW THE OBJECT WORKS!

Unfortunately, using existing objects is one of the selling points of OOP.
It's supposed to make programming easier and faster.


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Re: SCOPE=COMMON in data spaces

2008-01-11 Thread Larry Dinwiddie
I found my problem - SCOPE=COMMON must be created by a non-swappable
module.

Larry

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Subject: SCOPE=COMMON in data spaces

I'm trying to create a data space with the SCOPE=COMMON parameter.  I'm
in key 0, supervisor state and have linked as 31-bit AMODE.

I am getting a system abend code 01D reason xxzz14xx from the DSPSERV
macro.

This indicates I am NOT in 31-bit addressing - I can change the program
to SCOPE=SINGLE and everything works.

I have tested this on z/OS 1.5 and z/OS 1.8 and it fails on both for the
same reason.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
Larry Dinwiddie

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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Larry Crilley wrote:
 Add the XTINCT product from Dino-Software to your information gathering.  We
 began advertising this tool in last months z-journal.

  
 Larry Crilley
 Dino-Software Corporation
 800.480.DINO
 412.366.3566
 www.dino-software.com
  
 Dino-Software Utilities
 T-REX - Superior catalog management tool inclusive of HSM  Tape audits 
 REORGadon - First REORG While-OPEN tool for HSM
 Teradon - First ever OnLine REPRO MERGECAT utility 
 Xtinct - DASD Data purge 
 RTD - DASD Real Time Defrag 
 DAL - Analysis for Legato in an easy to view format

   

I don't see the product on your web page. Can you give me a URL for me
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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
both happy and prime. 

Doctor Who episode 42

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Re: Finding subsequent JFCBX control blocks

2008-01-11 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

Tom Quarendon wrote:
However the definition of the JFCBX, to me at least, seems ambigous as 
to how I find the next JFCBX. There seem to be two fields, JFCBXTTR, 
which contains the SVA of the next extension block, and JFCBXNXT which 
contains the address of the next JFCB extension. Do these amount to the 
same thing? Which should I use?


For TTR/address fields, the address is normally filled in when 
the control block has been requested, and the link filled by the 
requester. That doesn't apply in your case, so use the SVA; even 
if the address is filled in and correct, the additional overhead 
 for the SVA is typically a few dozen instructions.


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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
   Yup, my first job (internship) was trivial. Learn and write COBOL.
I'd just finished a good solid 370 assembler class. On the other hand,
that was also language number 4. Fortran, PASCAL, Assembler. 
   So far I've never C'd but if/when I need to, I don't expect a lot of
trouble.

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software
Engineers of Tomorrow?

Gibney, Dave wrote:
Why should what language is taught matter, after the second or
third
 language, IF you are a programmer, it's just another language. Mostly
 syntax, some semantics.
   

Agreed. But, the closer to the metal a language takes you, the more 
about the metal you learn.

The best C programmers I know are also assembler language programmers.

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Re: Determining when a processor comes online/goes offline

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:36:14 -0600, David Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The recent discussion on SRM constant made me realize I need to add
some logic to some code.  I want to be able to recognize when processors are
added and/or removed from the MVS image.  As best as I can determine from
the manuals, setting up a System Listener for ENF events appears to be the
way to go.  Look for system event 61, and then execute CSRSI. In the data
returned by CSRSI 
  
SI22V1CONFIGUREDCPUCOUNT DS BL2 A 16-bit unsigned binary integer that  *
 specifies the total number of CPUs that are   *
 in the configured state. A CPU is in the  *
 configured state when it is in the*
 configuration and available to be used to *
 execute programs.  
 
The above field should tell me the number of CPU's that are active.

Will this work?  Anyone who has been down this path before and who
would comment, I would appreciate it.


Never done it, but looks right.   ShowMVS uses the CSRSI returned data
that you are considering (I use data from the CSD in IPLINFO since it is
rexx).  
As further proof... looking at the ENF listeners with ShowMVS I see 
one of our vendor's licensing software programs listening on event 61.

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:08:51 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

...
 good test for CS students.  I picture a blank stare on the  student's
 faces, but I would love to be shown wrong.
...


Usually what we'd do is get Knuth's book and  translate from MIX to 
whatever
was required. Radix sort is 45 lines on pg  126?
...

I wasn't really talking about the ability to write the sort.  I was
thinking about the analysis that points to radix partitioning being
a solution - analysis of the data structure as something to consider
at all.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Richbourg, Claude
Yes,

It is listed under 'Sand Alone Edit' which we have.
A blip follows:

1 - Fast DASD Erase 

Fast DASD Erase may be licensed separately by users interested in
erasing data at the end of their Disaster Recovery tests or when
decommissioning DASD. 

Erasing test data at the end of a Disaster Recovery test may be one of
the most important steps of the test itself. SAE users enjoy peace of
mind knowing they have completely erased all mission-critical and
personal data, thereby safeguarding it from unwanted use. This is
especially important in an era of government regulations, such as HIPAA,
GLBA, PIPEDA, etc. Users also appreciate the reduction in time and money
saved during the actual erasure. 
 
HTH further.

Regards,
Claude Richbourg

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Richbourg, Claude wrote:
 There is another one that we have used.
 It is by NEWERA software and it is, 'DASD FAST ERASE'. It works good
as
 you can do as many passes over the data with different patterns as
 needed.
 HTH.

 Regards,
 Claude Richbourg


   
I just went on their website and the only products I see there are Image
Focus and Stand Alone Edit. Is the product you mentioned still being
marketed by NewEra?

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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
both happy and prime. 

Doctor Who episode 42

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Re: COBOL Application Programming Training

2008-01-11 Thread Steve Comstock

Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I have a customer that needs to send someone (a new programmer) to COBOL
classes.  They don't seem to offer any at IBM anymore.  Does anyone have any
suggestions?  They are looking for something preferably in the Chicago area,
but will take other locations as well.
Thanks,

Mary J. Yukus
IT Specialist - Lead Systems Programmer 
HQ US Military Entrance Processing Command
J6/MIT-System Support Branch


[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


Here he comes to save the dayy


Hi, Mary,

Just got back in my office and saw your post.

We offer an entire COBOL curriculum for new programmers.



For Entry Programmer Training, consider this:
  http://www.trainersfriend.com/Curricula/EPT_Curr.htm

which is the soup-to-nuts program.



If you just want COBOL courses, we offer these:
  http://www.trainersfriend.com/COBOL_Courses/cobolcurr.htm

and everything is up to date.



As Dave K. pointed out, I'll come to Chicago (actually,
that's kinda' my home town; long story)


But it looks like you have only one student. In this case,
take a look at our Remote Contact Training (RCT) option.
Basically this is self-study-tied-to-a-mentor. Typically,
the mentor is the course author. The student gets our
standard handout. We work with you to set up for the labs
so the student can run the labs on your system, the
system they'll be using in the real world. Then the
student goes through the book at their own pace; he or
she can contact the mentor via email for explanations,
hints on the labs, more details on topics, and evaluations
of solutions.


Drop me a line off-list for more details / information.



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CEA RACF userid and SPECIAL

2008-01-11 Thread Roach, Dennis
Has anyone defined CEA to RACF?
If so, does anyone know why it needs UID(0) and (especially) RACF SPECIAL?


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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
   Why should what language is taught matter, after the second or third
language, IF you are a programmer, it's just another language. Mostly
syntax, some semantics.

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:12 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software
Engineers
 of Tomorrow?
 
 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:13:53 -0500, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 ...
 http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/08/01/08/0348239.shtml
 
 http://www.stsc.hill.af.mil/CrossTalk/2008/01/0801DewarSchonberg.ht
 ml
 ...
 
 Since the other thread on this topic went off in a seriously OT
 direction I'll comment on this thread.
 
 That original article seemed to imply that the problem was language-
 based.  I've been out of touch with the educational system(s) far
 too long to have a really know what is currently taught and how it
 is taught.   I have trouble believing that switching from Java to
 C, C++, LISP, and Ada is going to fix the problem.  (Is Ada common
 in CS curriculum?  I notice the authors work at an Ada development
 shop.  They may be a bit biased.)
 
 I think their comment that Java encourages a pick a tool that works
 mentality may be right on, though.
 
 Rick Fochtman's question about Radix Partition Tress would make a
 good test for CS students.  I picture a blank stare on the student's
 faces, but I would love to be shown wrong.
 
 Pat O'Keefe
 
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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Edward Jaffe

Gibney, Dave wrote:

   Why should what language is taught matter, after the second or third
language, IF you are a programmer, it's just another language. Mostly
syntax, some semantics.
  


Agreed. But, the closer to the metal a language takes you, the more 
about the metal you learn.


The best C programmers I know are also assembler language programmers.

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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
Richbourg, Claude wrote:
 There is another one that we have used.
 It is by NEWERA software and it is, 'DASD FAST ERASE'. It works good as
 you can do as many passes over the data with different patterns as
 needed.
 HTH.

 Regards,
 Claude Richbourg


   
I just went on their website and the only products I see there are Image
Focus and Stand Alone Edit. Is the product you mentioned still being
marketed by NewEra?

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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
both happy and prime. 

Doctor Who episode 42

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 1/11/2008 10:57:00 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 good test for CS students.  I picture a blank stare on the  student's
 faces, but I would love to be shown wrong.



Usually what we'd do is get Knuth's book and  translate from MIX to whatever 
was required. Radix sort is 45 lines on pg  126? 







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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The enqueue for a dataset referenced using JCL doesn't get freed until after 
the referencing step

Not unless you code FREE=CLOSE.
ENQ's are kept fore the life of the job.


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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Field, Alan C.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 14:31
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Subject: Worst Predictions of All Time
Other posters alluded to these predictions:

I predict that the last mainframe will be unplugged on March 15, 1996.
Stewart Alsop, InfoWorld, March 1991

It's clear that corporate customers still like to have centrally
controlled, very predictable, reliable computing systems - exactly the
kind of systems that IBM specializes in.
Stewart Alsop, February 2002

I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. 
(Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943.)

There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.
 (Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment
Corporation, 1977.)

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:04:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

//DELE EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,
// PARM='DEL ''dsn'' '
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD DUMMY

That worked!

Oops, no it didn't.   It ended with a clean return code, but the file
wasn't deleted.

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Jan 2008 12:44:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

Instead of deleting via JCL, I use IDCAMS or IKJEFT01. With IKJEFT01
(TSO/batch), my JCL looks like:

//DELE EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,
// PARM='DEL ''dsn'' '
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD DUMMY

That worked!

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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Anton Britz
Hi,

Is there a possibility that we can limit these general whaffle type postings 
to 
one or two per week per person. Things we can account to being lonely in 
your hole  ?

Some of us, are constantly posting general type posting ex. What your 
GRandmother likes etc. into this list.

We all love you in your hole but say something about what currently is 
happening in the Computer World. Use the internet to find something useful to 
say, please ?

Anton

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zOS Version 1 Release 9 and software products DVD collection

2008-01-11 Thread Anton Britz
Hi,

It's is possible to do for $20 because I did it yesterday.

You can order a full set of zOS manuals, Redbooks and zOs related softwar= e 
products from IBM For $20.

Here is a copy of my order and the URL :

http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?CTY=US

* IBM Publications Center Confirmation * --
---=
---

Your following order for IBM publications has been accepted: 
Order number  INGBVG
Order date  2008-10-01
  
Invoice information
First name  Anton
Last name  Britz
Organization  Ab Software Consultants
Address  P.O Box 931
City  Boise
City limit  inside
Zip code  83701
County  USA
State Idaho
Country  United States  
  
Order information Publication  Title  Unit price USD  Quantity  Amount 
USD   
SK3T-4271-19  IBM Online Library: z/OS V1R9 and Software Products DVD 
Collection, Septemb  20.00  1  20.00   
SK5T-7054-01  IBM Online Library: z/VM Collection on DVD, June 2007  20.0= 
0  
1  20.00   
-  
  Net amount  40.00  
  State tax  2.40  
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  Gross amount  42.40  

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Jan 2008 12:44:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

It sounds like you are using the CA TCP/IP stack instead of the IBM one.

I believe you're right.

The problem comes in due to the fact that in the CA stack, the ftp
process is actually done in the TCPIP stack and not in the job. That is,
the CA stack actually allocates the DSN to itself. If the DSN is used
later in the job with an exclusive ENQ (DISP=SHR|NEW|MOD), then the
TCPIP stack cannot allocate the file (it is in use by the job) and the
ftp aborts.

Instead of deleting via JCL, I use IDCAMS or IKJEFT01. With IKJEFT01
(TSO/batch), my JCL looks like:

//DELE EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,
// PARM='DEL ''dsn'' '
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD DUMMY

I'll stick that in the proc.

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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
She forgot the one from the half wit who predicted the date  time of the 
shutdown of the last mainframe.

In the late 1980's, Gartner predicted that any company that didn't move from 
the mainframe to client/server would not be in business for very long.

In the mid-to-late 1990's, the same analyst said that companies were having 
problems migrating to c/s, and they had probably jumped on the bandwagon too 
soon.

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Jan 2008 12:38:57 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:


On the DD statement, code:

FREE=CLOSE as an extra parameter on the card.

In the IEFBR14?

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Big Iron
How about using IDCAMS to do the delete?
The enqueue for a dataset referenced using JCL doesn't get freed until
after the referencing step (TEBN#1 here).

Bill

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:13:05 -0700, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I have a file with sensitive information on it that gets FTP'd to a
secure server.

 

The JCL contains:

 

//TEBNF1 EXEC UEAA,(TRANSMIT T

// PASSWRD='..()',

//* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING PASS

// FTPPARM='bbb..()

//* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING FTP 

//TEBNF2 EXEC URAA,(TRANSMIT To unix server)

// REX1='..()',  

//* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING PASSword for Unix server

// REX2='..()'  

/* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING  MACROS for Unix server

I added the following code

 

  

//CLEANUP IF (TEBNF1.UEAA#1.RC NE 0) THEN


//TEBNF3 EXEC TEBNF3   (CLEAN UP FILES)


//ENDCLEAN ENDIF


// 

 

 

This has for a couple of files:

//TEBN#1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 

//SIDFILEI   DD DSN=my.file.name

// DISP=(MOD,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,0)   

 

 

Trouble is I get:

12:53:18 FTP2: PUT 'my.file.name' my.file  

12:53:21 450 Data set tied up by another user  

12:53:21 FTP2: END 

12:55:19 425 Can't open data connection.   

12:55:19 221 Session terminated

12:55:19 T01F2030I FTP2 returns CC=8   

 

With an OC9

 

 

I was hoping a separate proc would allow me to do the deletes from
within this job. What other options do I have?



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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Jan 2008 11:46:08 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:

Does it matter where the fault is?


Yes, I believe it does.
If memory leaks are a problem, they have to be resolved, just like any coding 
issue.

If it's the programmer - train or dismiss.
If it's the compiler - get it fixed.

But we're talking about industry wide trends here.  If I buy a product
with a memory leak, it costs me - even if it costs the vendor more
than it costs me.

At any rate, this sub thread is about whether the trend from assembler
to procedural to OO means less housekeeping in each step.My point
is that some housekeeping needs went up with the change to OO,
otherwise we wouldn't be seeing so much software with memory leaks.

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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread McKown, John
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Day
 Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:29 PM
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 OK, Here's a useful question for Anton  Anton, have you 
 taken all your 
 meds today?

I can understand Anton's request. Nobody else at my company is willing
to shift through the noise on IBM-MAIN to get to the good stuff
anymore. I am.

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Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
I have a file with sensitive information on it that gets FTP'd to a
secure server.

 

The JCL contains:

 

//TEBNF1 EXEC UEAA,(TRANSMIT T

// PASSWRD='..()',

//* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING PASS

// FTPPARM='bbb..()

//* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING FTP 

//TEBNF2 EXEC URAA,(TRANSMIT To unix server)

// REX1='..()',  

//* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING PASSword for Unix server

// REX2='..()'  

/* LIBRARY AND MEMBER OF FILE CONTAINING  MACROS for Unix server

I added the following code

 

  

//CLEANUP IF (TEBNF1.UEAA#1.RC NE 0) THEN


//TEBNF3 EXEC TEBNF3   (CLEAN UP FILES)


//ENDCLEAN ENDIF


// 

 

 

This has for a couple of files:

//TEBN#1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 

//SIDFILEI   DD DSN=my.file.name

// DISP=(MOD,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,0)   

 

 

Trouble is I get:

12:53:18 FTP2: PUT 'my.file.name' my.file  

12:53:21 450 Data set tied up by another user  

12:53:21 FTP2: END 

12:55:19 425 Can't open data connection.   

12:55:19 221 Session terminated

12:55:19 T01F2030I FTP2 returns CC=8   

 

With an OC9

 

 

I was hoping a separate proc would allow me to do the deletes from
within this job. What other options do I have?


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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread McKown, John
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 FTP a temp file...let the OS do the work. 

You cannot ftp an temporary file using CA's ftp stack. If by that you
mean DSN=TEMP.

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Re: DFHSM - PARSING ERROR

2008-01-11 Thread willie bunter
Thanks.  I didn't catch that.  Next time I use the old spell check
   
  Thanks to all

Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of willie bunter
 
 Hallo All,
 
 I am attempting to fix a problem. A dataset which was 
 migrated (ml2) with no backup, was deleted.
 
 I created the catalog entry and in the process of trying to 
 perform the AUDIT. I am encountering a parsing error and I 
 am unable to figure out where my mistake is. Could someone 
 please advise me as to how I can correct this error? Below is 
 the erro message output:
 HSEND AUDIT MEDCTL VOLUMES(MD0038) FIX SERIALIZATION(CONTINOUS)
 
 The command is not successful. Below is the error message:
 ARC1001I AUDIT MEDCTL VOLUMES(MD0038) FIX 
 SERIALIZATION(CONTINOUS) COMMAND 
 ARC1001I (CONT.) FAILED, RC=0005, REAS=0004 
 
 ARC1605I COMMAND HAD PARSE ERROR 

You apparently misspelled CONTINUOUS. 

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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
A follow-up...

In re-reading my earlier response, it dawned on me that the type of file I
emailed were normal 80 byte records.  If you need to email a true file,
here is something that may help.

http://www.planetmvs.com/mvsmail/index.html#MIMEBIN

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Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I do know that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

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Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 Jan 2008 11:35:40 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

For an experienced programmer, this is a boon. But it totally defeats
the purpose for a beginner. They end up knowing very little and create
crappy code. In C, programmers just use the qsort() function to sort
stuff. And it is not optimal in all cases (I prefer heapsort, in
general).

And CoBOL programmers use whatever the compiler uses for the sort. Let
the systems programmers tweak it if it should be changed. Sometimes my
compiler listing will say I can use a more efficient sort - but any
compiler options I use get overridden by Endevor during migration.

Of course, in today's who cares? Just give me an answer right now!
mind set, this may be a good thing. It also reduces programming from a
craft to something more like an assembly line worker. Which is also
good in that it means that programmers are cheaper and easier to
replace, thus giving them less value to the company.

It depends on what the craft of the programming is supposed to be. The
reason for making efficient code is to save the company money. If the
programmer turned some of his attention towards understanding the
users' needs better, his value to the company can be improved.

And understanding business needs isn't assembly line work.

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Re: Determining when a processor comes online/goes offline

2008-01-11 Thread Roland Schiradin
Yes ENF listener is the best method among the other interface to get the 
current data. 

Roland

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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Moulder
If you have EMC DASD, then you can contact them for information about three
erasures offerings.  The offerings are from low to high in terms of data
erasure certification and government clearances.  The highest certification
level is an internal program that insures all data is erased and can not be
retrieved.  Be prepared also to spend some time achieving the highest level
of certification.  Hopefully the frame has been disconnected from the
mainframe when you finally do this and so there is no impact on production
work.

Tom Moulder 

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Outside of FDRERASE and good old ICKDSF are there any products in the
market that can erase data from mainframe DASD?

I didn't see anything in the CBT archive for DASD, just some tape
erasure programs.
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The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
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Re: Data Erasure Products

2008-01-11 Thread Richbourg, Claude
There is another one that we have used.
It is by NEWERA software and it is, 'DASD FAST ERASE'. It works good as
you can do as many passes over the data with different patterns as
needed.
HTH.

Regards,
Claude Richbourg

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Outside of FDRERASE and good old ICKDSF are there any products in the
market that can erase data from mainframe DASD?

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erasure programs.
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Riley: Find the next number in the sequence: 313, 331, 367, ...? what?

The Doctor: 379. It's a sequence of happy primes, 379.

Martha: Happy what?

The Doctor: Just enter it!

Riley: Are you sure? We only get one chance.

The Doctor: Any number that reduces to one when you take the sum of 
the square of its digits and continue iterating until it yields 1 is 
a happy number, any number that doesn't, isn't. A happy prime is 
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Doctor Who episode 42

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Re: Can a pdf document be create using COBOL?

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:49:17 -0500, Warner Mach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have played around with XMITIP and TXT2PDF to some extent.
I have also discussed the DATA21 PDF product with one of the
representatives of that company.
  .
The problem with the XMITIP system (from our perspective) is
that it does not have an 'overlay' feature (which we could
really use for W-2s). The problem with the DATA21 product is
that the PDF portion requires going to a PC as intermediary;
which introduces security problems, along with political
issues.
  .
The ideal situation would be an add-on to XMITIP which would
provide the free product with overlays and no need to use
a PC ... One can dream.


Have you looked at or contacted the PDFLIB vendor?  

http://www.pdflib.com/

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread tony babonas
no, specify via a DD card.  we have many applications that do exactly this.

 

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FTP a temp file...let the OS do the work. 

Can I pass a true temporary file name within the FTP command?

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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Kirk Talman
My archive of similiar material has:

Everything that can be invented has been invented. - Charles H. Duell, 
Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

Same quote is in WikiQuote w/same attribution but no explanation of who 
Charles H. Duell was.

The Futurist article was 2000 Sep/Oct p.20.  I don't know if it had futher 
attribution.  Couldn't find related any info on snopes.  I am skeptical 
because I think the idea of invention was not used by the Romans, even 
considering their engineering orientation.

Related entries (some also in Alan Field's post):

But what ... is it good for? - Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems 
Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip.

Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. - Popular 
Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the 
best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't 
last out the year. - The editor in charge of business books for Prentice 
Hall, 1957

I think there is a world market for about five computers. - Thomas J 
Watson, Chairman of the Board, IBM, 1943

There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. - Ken 
Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977



IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/11/2008 
03:31:14 PM:

 Well, since it is Friday I thought I'd post a little humor item, 
 especially considering the quote from John von Neumann.

 In an article in The Futurist magazine, writer Laura Lee catalogues some
 of the worst predictions of all time: 

 Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for
 further developments. -Roman engineer Julius Sextus Frontinus, A.D. 100

 The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the
 intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon. -John Eric Ericksen, surgeon
 to Queen Victoria, 1873 

 Law will be simplified [over the next century]. Lawyers will have
 diminished, and their fees will have been vastly curtailed. -journalist
 Junius Henri Browne, 1893 

 It doesn't matter what he does, he will never amount to anything.
 -Albert Einstein's teacher to Einstein's father, 1895 

 It would appear we have reached the limits of what it is possible to
 achieve with computer technology. -computer scientist John von Neumann,
 1949 

 The Japanese don't make anything the people in the U.S. would want.
 -Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, 1954 

 Nuclear powered vacuum cleaners will probably be a reality within 10
 years. -Alex Lewyt, president of the Lewyt Vacuum Cleaner Company,
 quoted in the New York Times, June 10, 1955 

 Before man reaches the moon, your mail will be delivered within hours
 from New York to Australia by guided missiles. We stand on the threshold
 of rocket mail. -Arthur Summerfield, U.S. Postmaster General under
 Eisenhower, 1959 

 By the turn of the century, we will live in a paperless society.
 -Roger Smith, chairman of General Motors, 1986 

 I predict the internet ... will go spectacularly supernova and in 1996
 catastrophically collapse. -Bob Metcalfe, InfoWorld, 1995 

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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
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She forgot the one from the half wit who predicted the date  time of
the shutdown of the last mainframe.
SNIP

And the one about a certain company that decided to not get into making
computers because they would only see a need for 7 in the US (did I
remember that one right?).

Later,
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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:45:59 -0700, Howard Brazee 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
It depends on what the craft of the programming is supposed to be. 
The
reason for making efficient code is to save the company money. If the
programmer turned some of his attention towards understanding the
users' needs better, his value to the company can be improved.
...

The original article said software engineer, not programer.
It wasn't explicitly stated, but I think that implies some element of 
design, not just implementing.  While that might include picking the
best existing solution it also includes creating a new solution if the
best is not good.   And that implies being able to evaluate the
existing collection of existing solutions, not just be able to pick one
off the shelf.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 13:22 -0500, Jon Brock wrote:
 It seems to me that there are important
 differences between the way you conceive of and design a program in
 assembler/COBOL/C versus, say, Ruby or Java.

+1 (as the kids say).

IMO the finest undergraduate programming textbook is Abelson and
Sussman's _Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs_.  They use
Scheme Lisp and emphasize functional programming; they don't bother to
introduce Scheme's assignment operator until nearly halfway through the
book.  I remember being stunned when I got to that point and realized I
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Re: Sub-CEC Reports

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
Dean,

I sent you a flatfile (LRECL=240 RECFM=VBA) via private email from the host
using SAS.  Tell me if it makes your way...

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Yes, I use this regulary. Can SMTP handle files other than 80 bytes ?
Still haven't gone to the link you sent.

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This is how I send files in a batch job...

//MAILFILE PROC SOUT='*',
// DS='???',
// EMAILADR='???'
//
//****
//
//IEBGENER EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSOUTDD SYSOUT=SOUT
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=SOUT
//SYSUT1DD DISP=SHR,DSN=OSS05.TEST.SYSIN(EMAILADR)
//  DD DISP=SHR,DSN=DS
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(B,SMTPB),
//  DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80,RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS)
//SYSIN DD DUMMY

The contents of the SYSIN file...
HELO SBCSF1
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
FROM: Gary Green
TO:   ..
SUBJECT:  Emailed file


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Thanks Gary.

Just the summary. It's 113 lines. We send it without signature also. How
would I get the contents into into the body of an SMTP stream ?

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Can't say Dean...  I write the output as well, edit it down to the one page,
print it for the manager to sign and then fax it over, -and-, as a heads-up,
email them a copy of the unsigned report.  I do know that they use the
emailed copy for pricing purposes (got hit with a price increase just last
quarter)...  Whether they back that up with the faxed copy I could not say.

When I took over the chore I just let things continue as they were.  If I
knew they would accept the report without signature, I would just schedule
the job for the first Monday of the reporting quarter, and email the report
to them from the host (SYSOUT = (B,SMTP)), with CC's to other interested
parties, myself included.

When you write the output, how large is the report?  Do you get all those
monthly charts and graphs for each LPAR or just the summary page?

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We right the output to a file, can we just FTP it ? Will they accept it like
that ?

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Automatically sending it is the easy part.  We need to have the report
signed by a manager to authenticate it so we wind up faxing it.

Unless of course, you mean extracting that single page from the mass of
output and just sending that.

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Hi,

Has anybody automated sending the report to IBM ? If so, how'd you do it ?

TIA
Dean

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Not unless you code FREE=CLOSE.
ENQ's are kept fore the life of the job.

How do I do this?

On the DD statement, code:

FREE=CLOSE as an extra parameter on the card.

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Does it matter where the fault is?


Yes, I believe it does.
If memory leaks are a problem, they have to be resolved, just like any coding 
issue.

If it's the programmer - train or dismiss.
If it's the compiler - get it fixed.

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Re: Deleting after FTP

2008-01-11 Thread tony babonas
FTP a temp file...let the OS do the work. 

  

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On 11 Jan 2008 12:44:25 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

Instead of deleting via JCL, I use IDCAMS or IKJEFT01. With IKJEFT01
(TSO/batch), my JCL looks like:

//DELE EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,
// PARM='DEL ''dsn'' '
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD DUMMY

That worked!

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Re: Can a pdf document be create using COBOL?

2008-01-11 Thread Denis Gäbler
 Another Idea, there is a PHP (programmig language just like ASP, Perl, etc.) 
port for z/OS running under Apache for z/OS. PHP has PDF routines.
I don't know if PHP (running under z/OS Unix) can be called out of COBOL.
Nevertheless PHP is open source, so there must be open source libraries with 
PDF creation functionality.
Sometimes they are easier to compile than one thinks, but sometimes it doesn't 
work at all.
Maybe this is worth a try too.


 
Denis.


 

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I am asking this because I do not know the answer and have not tried it...
Do you have SAS?

I know it can produce a PDF file, supposedly with ease using ODS.  The part
I do not know is, can it produce a PDF type file on the host.  Worse case,
have SAS write it to a directory on a workstation/LAN, I've used SAMBA for
the mounting.  Then the PDF file would be sitting there ready to do
whatever...

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I have played around with XMITIP and TXT2PDF to some extent.
I have also discussed the DATA21 PDF product with one of the representatives
of that company.
  .
The problem with the XMITIP system (from our perspective) is that it does
not have an 'overlay' feature (which we could really use for W-2s). The
problem with the DATA21 product is that the PDF portion requires going to a
PC as intermediary; which introduces security problems, along with political
issues.
  .
The ideal situation would be an add-on to XMITIP which would provide the
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Re: Can a pdf document be create using COBOL?

2008-01-11 Thread Gary Green
I am asking this because I do not know the answer and have not tried it...
Do you have SAS?

I know it can produce a PDF file, supposedly with ease using ODS.  The part
I do not know is, can it produce a PDF type file on the host.  Worse case,
have SAS write it to a directory on a workstation/LAN, I've used SAMBA for
the mounting.  Then the PDF file would be sitting there ready to do
whatever...

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I have played around with XMITIP and TXT2PDF to some extent.
I have also discussed the DATA21 PDF product with one of the representatives
of that company.
  .
The problem with the XMITIP system (from our perspective) is that it does
not have an 'overlay' feature (which we could really use for W-2s). The
problem with the DATA21 product is that the PDF portion requires going to a
PC as intermediary; which introduces security problems, along with political
issues.
  .
The ideal situation would be an add-on to XMITIP which would provide the
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Re: Identifying GDG datasets in a deferred status

2008-01-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:11:11 -0600, Gilbert Cardenas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have created a jcl to list all the GDG datasets that are in a deferred
status.
Unfortunately, the jcl is lengthy and runs quite a while because I had to
perform the following steps to filter out only the datasets I wanted :

STEP1.  Perform an IDCAMS LISTCAT UCAT ALL to a dataset to identify all the
user catalogs.

STEP2.  Sort include only the catalog names and reformat the output to
format the IDCAMS spread cards LISTC NVSAM HIST CAT [the catalog name].

STEP3.  Perform the IDCAMS LISTC from the dataset created in STEP2.

STEP4.  Perform another SORT against the output of STEP3 and include only
the records that contain GDG BASE and reformat the output to format the
IDCAMS spread cards LISTC NVSAM HIST GDG ENT [gdg base name].

STEP5.  Perform the actual IDCAMS LISTC from the dataset created in STEP4.

STEP6.  SORT include only the records that contain NONVSAM and STATUS
which gives me all the GDG entries and their status.  I then perform a search
on deferred to find if there are any GDGs in a deferred rollin status.

This seems like a lot of rigmarole just to be able to find out what gdgs
are in a
deferred status.

Does anyone have a better/faster/reliable way to do this?


Yes.  Do it with the CSI (catalog search interface) in one step.  Look
at NVSMATTR:

+---+ 
¦ Table 21. Catalog Field Names ¦ 
+---¦ 
¦ Type ¦ Len ¦ Name   ¦ Description ¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ Character¦ 1   ¦ NVSMATTR   ¦ Non-VSAM attribute information  ¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ c'H' ¦ ¦¦ Active GDS  ¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ c'N' ¦ ¦¦ Deferred GDS¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ c'M' ¦ ¦¦ Rolled-off GDS  ¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ c'L' ¦ ¦¦ Extended partitioned data set (PDSE)¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ c'P' ¦ ¦¦ POSIX data set  ¦ 
+--+-++-¦ 
¦ x'00'¦ ¦¦ Simple non-VSAM data set¦ 
+--+-++-+ 


The CSI documentation is in the Managing Catalogs manual.

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Re: SEMI off topic

2008-01-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:32:31 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

I was accustomed, decades ago, to hearing 400 Hz.  Was it always
415 Hz., subject to verbal shorthand?

Yes.

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Re: Computer Science Education: Where Are the Software Engineers of Tomorrow?

2008-01-11 Thread McKown, John
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 Software Engineers of Tomorrow?
 
 
 And one of the biggest problems with OOP is the use of 
 object libraries. For __beginning__ students, using OOP 
 usually means just wiring together a number of pre-existing 
 objects, or maybe just
 extending an existing object. WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING HOW THE 
 OBJECT WORKS!
 
 Unfortunately, using existing objects is one of the selling 
 points of OOP.
 It's supposed to make programming easier and faster.

For an experienced programmer, this is a boon. But it totally defeats
the purpose for a beginner. They end up knowing very little and create
crappy code. In C, programmers just use the qsort() function to sort
stuff. And it is not optimal in all cases (I prefer heapsort, in
general).

Of course, in today's who cares? Just give me an answer right now!
mind set, this may be a good thing. It also reduces programming from a
craft to something more like an assembly line worker. Which is also
good in that it means that programmers are cheaper and easier to
replace, thus giving them less value to the company.

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