Re: VSAM Freespace - If no initial load???????

2008-01-29 Thread Joe jeffries
Many thx John/Ron.

John, I'm passing this to our CICS sysprogs to see if it's something they can 
use.

Ron, Agree that a journal file should be ascending key and be used 
sequentially. However, the amount of inserts (2/5ths) seem to point to what I 
assume are delayed transactions being inserted. Therefore, I was hoping to 
allocate a small(ish) CI FSPC to ensure enough room for 2 records to be 
inserted in each CI?

Regards,

Joe

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Re: Two things missing from DFSORT in a perfect world?

2008-01-29 Thread Martin Packer
Frank, in your example you probably want to throw in SQZ to get rid of the 
leading zeroes in the dotted address you're generating.

Eg 5.226.19.8 rather than 005.226.019.008

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DSS COPY/RENAME failed (ADR971E)

2008-01-29 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi,

We have a production job to COPY/RENAME an extended KSDS and it runs
normally for some days before giving us a RC=8:

DR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2008.028 01:38:23 EXECUTION
BEGINS

ADR411W (001)-DDFLT(02), DATA SET PROD.OLD IN CATALOG CATALOG.UCAT ON VOLUME
BP9E97 WAS NOT SERIALIZED
ON REQUEST

ADR971E (001)-AMOVE(01), LOGICAL COPY FOR CLUSTER PROD.OLD IN IN CATALOG
CATALOG.UCAT FAILED, 4
ADR439E (001)-PREVS(15), A PREALLOCATED DATA SET WITH NEW NAME NEW NAME
PROD.NEW WAS FOUND FOR DATA SET  PROD.OLD BUT WAS UNUSABLE, 68

Here are the DSS statements we're using:

COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(PROD.OLD))
-

   RENAMEU((PROD.OLD,PROD.NEW))
-
   OPTIMIZE(4) TOL(ENQF) STORCLAS(SCCPCRD) REPLACEU

Explanation for ADR971E is: (RC=4)

A logical COPY was requested for an extended format VSAM data set and
DFSMSdss could not enqueue on the data set name. DFSMSdss
 requires IDCAMS to copy the data set. A logical COPY using IDCAMS
cannot be performed on an extended format VSAM data set that is open
 for update. The TOLERATE keyword is not supported.
However, we don't have other users openning it in I-O mode while doing the
copy/rename.

*More strangely, if we remove the del/define step (we define the target KSDS
before the copy/rename), the job executed successfully, at least for the
past two days!!!*

I have done the various tests and feel a little lost. Actually I was not
able to trigger another ADR971E messages in my tests.

The last information I can supply is about the space allocation. If we
del/define the target KSDS, we can see the messages concerning space
constraint relief:

IGD17287I DATA SET PROD.NEW
COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED NORMALLY,
SPACE CONSTRAINT RELIEF (MULTIPLE VOLUMES) WILL BE ATTEMPTED
IGD17286I SPACE CONSTRAINT RELIEF WAS USED TO ALLOCATE DATA SET
PROD.NEW,
DATA WAS SPREAD OVER MULTIPLE
VOLUMES
IGD17070I DATA SET PROD.NEW
ALLOCATED SUCCESSFULLY WITH 1
STRIPE(S).
IGD17172I DATA SET PROD.NEW
IDCAMS  SYSTEM SERVICES
IS ELIGIBLE FOR EXTENDED ADDRESSABILITY

After removing the del/def step, there are no such messages in DSS job log.
It seems that we allocate too much spaces in the DEFINE step and if letting
DSS do it automatically (remove the del/define step) , it's so smart to
calculate the right size to use. But is it relevant?

Having struggled with it for 12 hours, I need some hints from experts here
-_-

Thanks.

Johnny

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Re: TSO TRANSMIT and instream data set DLM=

2008-01-29 Thread Roy Hewitt

Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

One of my disappointments with TSO TRANSMIT is that I know
no safe way to imbed INMR text in an instream data set:
the format seems to allow any digraph to appear in columns
1-2.  But today, attempting to test a trial-and-error routine
to scan a TRANSMITted IEBCOPY unloaded JCL library for a
digraph not appearing in columns 1-2, I was startled to
find no '//' (but many '/*') in those columns.  I consider
this a statistical anomaly -- I found numerous '//' in 2-3
and wrapped from 80-1.  Have the authors done us a favor by
coding to avoid '//' in 1-2?  I can find no mention of this
in the documentation.  I'd be delighted to exploit the feature  
if I were confident it was supported.


BTW, is there a new format of Publibz?  Suddenly, I seem to
be required to display a shelf list before I can filter for
a string in a publication title.  This could be undesirable
on a slow connection.  I'll have to see whether I get used
to it.  (I really wish I could have searched for TRANSMIT
in all publications whose titles contain TSO.)

-- gil

Paul,

See the following as an example of how to include such data instream 
using standard IBM utilities. This example includes Terse output (but 
could easily be Transmit), that has been reformatted as 64 bytes and 
offset to pos 3.


It uses the fact that the lrecl for a dataset can be overridden so long 
as is still valid for the blocksize. So we override to 64 on the SPLIT 
step, then back to 1024 on the unterse step..(also watch the nested DLMs 
XX, YY,ZZ!!!)


I'd like to take credit for it;-).. but the IEBGENER/IEBDG steps are 
based on the method that IBM uses within z/OS HCD to transmit IODFs..I 
just adapted it to use DSS/TRSMAIN input


Cheers

roy


//jobname  JOB (0),'XMIT IODF', 

// NOTIFY=SYSUID, 


// CLASS=X,MSGCLASS=A
//* 

//*  DSS DUMP IODF TO TEMPORARY FILE 

//* 

//DSS  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU 

//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=* 

//DUMP  DD DSN=DSSIODF,DISP=(,PASS), 

// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(50,50),RLSE) 

//SYSIN DD * 

DUMP  DATASET (INCLUDE (- 

  SYSX.IODF0B.CLUSTER  - 

  ))- 

  ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP - 

  OUTDD(DUMP) 

/* 

//* 

//*  TERSE THE DSS DUMP 

//* 

//TERSE EXEC PGM=TRSMAIN,PARM='PACK' 

//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=12901,RECFM=FBA) 

//INFILEDD DISP=OLD,DSN=DSSIODF 

//OUTFILE   DD DISP=(,PASS),DSN=TERIODF, 

// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(50,10),RLSE) 

//* 

//*  OVERRIDE THE LRECL TO SPLIT INTO 64 BYTE CHUNKS 

//*  AND SHIFT TO COL3. THIS ALLOWS TO BE SUBMITTED 


//*  INSTREAM.
//*
//*  This Step uses the technique of overriding the lrecl
//*  of the previous terse output to 64.
//*  This works as 64 is a common factor of 1024
//*  (and thus of the blocksize)
//*  If you use this for other than terse with other lrecls
//*  ie 80, then ensure the blocksize is a multiple of 64 ie 8000 

//* 

//SPLIT EXEC PGM=IEBDG 

//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=* 

//INDD DSN=TERIODF,DISP=OLD, 

//LRECL=64,RECFM=FB 

//OUT   DD DSN=SPLIT,DISP=(,PASS),SPACE=(CYL,(50,10),RLSE), 

//LRECL=80,RECFM=FB 

//SYSIN DD * 

 DSD OUTPUT=(OUT),INPUT=(IN) 

  FD NAME=FD1,LENGTH=2 

  FD NAME=FD2,LENGTH=64,STARTLOC=3,FROMLOC=1,INPUT=IN 

  CREATE NAME=(FD1,FD2),INPUT=IN 

  END 

//* 

//*  NOW SUBMIT TO REMOTE NODE 

//* 

//SUBMIT EXEC PGM=IEBGENER 

//SYSINDD DUMMY 

//SYSPRINT DD DUMMY 

//SYSUT2   DD SYSOUT=(,INTRDR) 

//SYSUT1   DD DATA,DLM=ZZ 

//jobname  JOB (0),'RESTORE IODF', 

// NOTIFY=SYSUID, 


// CLASS=X,MSGCLASS=A
/*ROUTE XEQ remote node 

//* 

//*  RE-JOIN 64 BIT CHUNKS TO CREATE THE TERSED FILE 

//* 

//JOIN EXEC PGM=IEBGENER 

//SYSPRINT DD   SYSOUT=* 

//SYSINDD   * 

   GENERATE  MAXFLDS=1 

   RECORDFIELD=(64,3) 

//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=(,PASS),DSN=JOIN, 

//UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(50,10),RLSE), 

//DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=64,BLKSIZE=10240) 

//SYSUT1   DD  DATA,DLM=XX 

ZZ 

//DD   DSN=SPLIT,DISP=OLD 

//DD   DATA,DLM=YY 

XX 

//* 

//*  UN- TERSE FILE. 

//*  OVERRIDE LRECL TO 1024 

//* 

//UNTERSE   EXEC PGM=TRSMAIN,PARM='UNPACK' 

//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(LRECL=133,BLKSIZE=12901,RECFM=FBA) 

//INFILEDD DISP=OLD,DSN=JOIN,LRECL=1024 

//OUTFILE   DD DISP=(,PASS),DSN=DSSIODF, 

//  UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(50,50),RLSE) 

//* 

//*  RESTORE DSSDUMP 

//* 

//DSSREST  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU 

//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=* 

//DUMP  DD DSN=DSSIODF,DISP=OLD 

//IODF  DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=IODF00,DISP=SHR 

//SYSIN DD * 

RESTORE  DATASET (INCLUDE (- 

  SYSY.IODF00.CLUSTER - 

  ))- 

  INDD(DUMP) OUTDD(IODF) 

/* 


YY

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Re: Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee

2008-01-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 01/28/2008
   at 02:07 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

This 'faith' is grounded in facts:

FSVO facts. When a woman with an MA in Statistics can't understand a
multiple linear regression program, then the degree doesn't tell anything
useful.
 
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We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
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Re: TSO TRANSMIT and instream data set DLM=

2008-01-29 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:22:34 -0600, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, is there a new format of Publibz?  Suddenly, I seem to
be required to display a shelf list before I can filter for
a string in a publication title.  This could be undesirable
on a slow connection. 

Yes, they do seem to have implemented a new format.  So far, I think I like
the old method better, but we'll see.   On a slow connection, perhaps you
could let the list start loading then click the stop button in your
browser, then do the filtering.

 I'll have to see whether I get used
to it.  (I really wish I could have searched for TRANSMIT
in all publications whose titles contain TSO.)

TSO/E has its own bookshelf, so if you start by listing the shelves, you can
then locate an open the TSO/E shelf, and then search for TRANSMIT.

-- 
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Re: z/OS 1.9 TCPIP

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Pace
Yes - these REXX execs are in my 1.9 system.

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:04:26 -0600, Luis Miguel Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have you tried  with the USS command:

  tail -n //'my.dataset.to.read'

  where n would be the number of lines

  Please let me know if you could do it.


That should work.   But why -n without a value?   It would be
tail -n nnn //'my.dataset.to.read' where nnn is the number of 
lines wouldn't it?  With BPXBATCH and z/OS 1.8 (or 1.5-1.7 with
the proper maintenance) STDOUT can point to a MVS data set.

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ZMFACC Assembler Coding Contest - new PD problem #15 and open question about applications/categories

2008-01-29 Thread Don Higgins
All
 
Problem #15 has been posted.  Neither #14 or #15 have any solutions posted 
yet.  Visit website for details:
 
http://z390.sourceforge.net/z390_Mainframe_Assemble_Coding_Contest.htm 
 
A friend asked me about the potential application of techniques used in 
the contest problems.  In response here is an initial list of applications 
by category with my first thoughts:
 
1.  Swapping fields (#1,#2) – used in sorting, file buffering

2.  Conversion to display characters (#3,#6,#9,#10) – used in dump, error 
display, or report formatting

3.  Sorting records (#4) – used in preparing for sequential processing and 
reporting

4.  Conversion of display characters to binary (#5) – used in decoding 
input data for processing

5.  Floating point calculations (#7,#8,#12) – used to calculate statistics 
with required precision

6.  Table lookup (#11) – used to access data tables required for processes 
such as validating records

7.  Decimal calculations (#13,#15) – used to calculate currency 
precisely in base 10

8.  Recursive functions (#14) – used in sorting routines such as 
Quicksort, compiling languages
 
Going forward, I’d like to build a list of categories for future 
problems.  My initial list of possible additions include:
 
1.  Boolean logic 

2.  Branch logic

3.  Comparisons

4.  Compression and de-compression (someone just asked me if z390 supports 
CMPSC yet.  The answer was not yet but I did go read the 9 page 
description in the latest POP which includes 3 page diagram)

5.  Encryption and decryption

6.  File access methods

7.  Heuristics

8.  Totally useless just for fun
 
Do you have some categories or specific questions you would like to see 
added.  All feedback welcome.
 
Don Higgins
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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) writes:
 It also says, 894 instructions (668 implemented entirely in hardware)

 The latest POO lists about 750 instructions.  I know that there are a few not 
 listed in the POO.  Still, it sounds like it's a lot over 50.

as per past discussions re the architecture red book (i.e. cms script
file where command line option would print the full machine architecture
or just the POO subset, full machine architecture was distributed in red
3ring binders) and compareswap instruction
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#smp

getting an instruction added could require a lot of justification.

so one way of parsing of the reference to 50+ added instructions to
improve compiled code efficiency ... could be referring to over 50 of
the added instructions were justified for improving compiled code
efficiency (w/o saying anything at all about the total number of added
instructions and/or what was the justification for any of the other
added instructions).

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.

Anne  Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 as an aside ... there was some similar speculation two decades ago about
 such stuff. there was even some speculation that one of the other clone
 processor vendors creation of macrocode was to enable them to quickly
 adapt to such things (be more agile in tracking, implementing, deploying
 changes).

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcdoes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcdoes

actually such speculation dates back three decades to the introduction
of cross-memory instructions and dual-address space mode on 3033

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Re: IBM Cuts Employee Salaries

2008-01-29 Thread Scrood Blued
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:06:21 -0500, Arthur T. wrote:

  Many companies abuse their salaried workers by
increasing workload until many extra (unpaid) hours are
needed.  Those 7600 folk are being punished by *not*
making family-killing demands on their time?

No, but every one of those employees who had achieved a work/life balance
that contained less than 5 hours of overtime a week have to now *start to
make family-killing demands on their time* to break even on weekly take home
pay.  To achieve equivalent total compensation is likely impossible, there
will not be enough overtime hours to do that.

They've now lost:

1) Their salary potential for any week where they take a vacation
2) Their salary potential for any week where there is a company holiday
3) Their bonus potential has been reduced by 15% (determined by base salary)
4) The magnitude of any raise has been reduced by 15% (determined by base
salary)
5) The value of certain benefits (e.g. disability, life insurance, 401K
match) have been reduced by 15%

Let's use some funny numbers and see what happens:

Assume an average 7600 employee was making $70K.
Assume an average 5% end of year bonus rate.
Assume an average 2% salary raise rate.

After the change, these employees are making $60K (well, $59.5K, but let's
not quibble over small change).  Also grant that they all work the 5 hours
of overtime (however unlikely) to make it back to $70K, so off the top, the
weekly payout doesn't change for IBM.

At the end of year 1 the bonuses for the employees at a 70K salary would be:
 $26.6M, at 60K salary:  $22.8M  (savings:  $3.8M)

At the end of year 2, the 70K employees would be making 71.4K, 60K employees
only make 61.2K.  End of year bonus differential grows to almost $3.9M.

These numbers don't include the reduction in cost to IBM for the other
benefits (disability, life insurance, 401K match, etc.) which all have
equivalent reductions, as they are determined by base salary.

  Forcing a company to pay for the amount of time
required can help them decide that they're understaffed and
need more people.  It definitely tends to keep them from
overworking their existing employees.  (Tends to, not
does.)

Yeah, right.  I have a bridge for sale, you sound like you're in the the
market.  More than likely, the boss will lower appraisals in direct
correlation to the number of overtime hours worked.  Sally got her stuff
done in 5 hours of OT/week, you needed 10.  Therefore you are a lower skill
than Sally.


  Some of those 7600 undoubtedly would rather be
overworked rather than underpaid.  Some would not.

Non-sequitur.

  Many years ago, my father considered changing
jobs.  At his interview, he was told that they couldn't
match his current base rate, but he could have all the
overtime he wanted.  Recognizing that money isn't
everything, he opted to stay where he was.

Your father got to make the choice.  These folks did not.

You have to consider all of the ancillary effects of such a company action.
 IBM saw a legal means to grab money back from its employees.  No different
than when Gerstner looted the pension fund.  IBM was sued and settled ...
ergo they were culpable for bad behavior.  Here, IBM was violating fair
labor laws.  IBM was sued and settled ... ergo culpable for bad behavior.  A
company which takes actions that it knows are going to piss off *customer
facing* employees is, for all intents and purposes a company that has little
regard for its customers.

Unhappy customer facing employees take it out on the customers, generally
not in an overt way, but schedules elongate, phone calls don't get returned
so quickly, 15 minutes of overtime turns into an hour, which turns into real
dollars for the customer, especially if the problem is, say, a hardware
outage on a hot weekend at your favorite retail store and the cash registers
go down...

SB

http://www.cxoamerica.com/pastissue/article.asp?art=25417issue=141

when asked how he measures his company’s success, IBM Chairman and CEO Sam
Palmisano said he monitors four measurements. In addition to market share,
consistent financials and being a valuable corporate citizen, Palmisano
includes attrition rates and being an employer of choice. “People want to be
here and want to make a big difference,” he says.

And these 7600?

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:49:54 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sorry, I am still on z/OS 1.6...

If you have the PTF for OA11699 (UA23196) then you can direct STDOUT to 
SYSOUT or a MVS data set.  It's old at this point... it has been available
since December 2005.

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Behalf Of Mark Zelden
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:04:26 -0600, Luis Miguel Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have you tried  with the USS command:

  tail -n //'my.dataset.to.read'

  where n would be the number of lines

  Please let me know if you could do it.


That should work.   But why -n without a value?   It would be
tail -n nnn //'my.dataset.to.read' where nnn is the number of
lines wouldn't it?  With BPXBATCH and z/OS 1.8 (or 1.5-1.7 with
the proper maintenance) STDOUT can point to a MVS data set.

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Re: identify sas uage by component

2008-01-29 Thread Ed Gould

On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:

You can tell SAS which record type to use (as long as it is  127),  
and

the SMF options can be put into a restricted options table so that a
user cannot touch them.  So you definitely pick an unused record type
number.

The actual writing of the record is done by the SAS SVC so none of the
SAS programs need to reside in APF controlled libraries.

Lindy



Lindy,

SIGH... thats nice about non authorized library but the issue is  
still there. One place I worked it was a *CONSTANT* battle to find a  
free SMF record type we had a board with product assignments to  
records and sometimes it was 2 years before one freed up. Meanwhile  
the user was screaming and all we could tell them was go out and do  
battle with this department or another. They sometimes would and  
basically get thrown back to us. All we could do is to sympathize and  
just say wait.


Now if you were to ask are *ALL* the records needed I would say no.  
Most of the time it was the idea if you don't use the product it gets  
dumped and that is really the only way to do it (in our case). We had  
the biggest hardware budget in the area and it swallowed up a fare  
percent of the over all budget. So it was a constant fight over the  
software (I won't *EVEN* get into SAS Software cost) .


Having a choice as to SMF record type is mandatory if you are going  
to be cutting them but there should be a better way (OR) IBM could  
expand the number of SMF record types. Fat chance on this but feel  
free to submit a SHARE requirement. Some of the vendors know this and  
put in an 8 character product name that is a step in the right  
direction but really not a complete answer as sometimes you need  
other fields to differentiate releases etc. which have to be put in  
extensions and then it gets a little more difficult to spin records  
off, its a mess, IMO.


Ed

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Thanks.


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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:49:54 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie
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Sorry, I am still on z/OS 1.6...

If you have the PTF for OA11699 (UA23196) then you can direct STDOUT to 
SYSOUT or a MVS data set.  It's old at this point... it has been
available
since December 2005.

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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:04:26 -0600, Luis Miguel Martinez
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Have you tried  with the USS command:

  tail -n //'my.dataset.to.read'

  where n would be the number of lines

  Please let me know if you could do it.


That should work.   But why -n without a value?   It would be
tail -n nnn //'my.dataset.to.read' where nnn is the number of
lines wouldn't it?  With BPXBATCH and z/OS 1.8 (or 1.5-1.7 with
the proper maintenance) STDOUT can point to a MVS data set.

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:47:05 -0500, Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

... there was even some speculation that one of the other clone
 processor vendors creation of macrocode was to enable them to quickly
 adapt to such things (be more agile in tracking, implementing, deploying
 changes).

There may have been speculation within IBM that Macrocode, and the 
architecture that enabled it, was to make it easier to develop new features.  I 
can tell you that I was at Amdahl at the time working on the 580.  That was 
definitely a major reason for it.


actually such speculation dates back three decades to the introduction
of cross-memory instructions and dual-address space mode on 3033

With the introduction of MVS/SE, Amdahl provided something called SE Assist, 
which provided software emulation of the new instructions that SE used.  
There was also a ZAP to NIP to no-op a TPROT instruction that seemed to be 
there only to prevent MVS/SE from IPLing on a processor without the new 
instructions.   When the 580 was being designed, the enhanced architecture 
of the processor allowed for such software emulation of new instructions in 
Macrocode without having to install code in the operating system.  This 
allowed instructions in NIP to be emulated.  The 580 also had an advanced 
channel architecture that made it much easier to implement the XA I/O 
subsystem. 

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.

Anne  Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 actually such speculation dates back three decades to the introduction
 of cross-memory instructions and dual-address space mode on 3033

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcdoes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#32 New Opcdoes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#33 New Opcdoes

part of the speculation was that the cross-memory/dual-address space
instructions used more STOs (segment table origins) simultaneously
... and the 3033 had inherited its TLB (and STO-associative)
implementation from 168.  The additional concurrent STO use activity was
putting pressure on TLB-miss and therefor performance.

one the other hand, large 168  3033 installation were facing enormous
pressure on amount of application addressable space ...

aka pasts posts about pointer passing paradigm from real memory heritage
dictated the SVS and subsequent MVS implementation with the kernel
appearing in the application address space. The MVS design included
moving (non-kernel) subsystems into their own address space
... dictating the common segment implementation (supporting squirreling
away data for pointer passing APIs). Larger installations were having to
constantly grow the common segment ... with 24bit addressing (16mbyte),
kernel taking up 8mbytes ... and the common segment growing from 4mbytes
to 5mbytes (and more) ... was only leave 3-4mbytes (or less) for
applications (even tho there was a virtual address space per
application).

the future system distraction had redirected a lot of effort
into non-370 activity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#futuresys

when future system was killed, there was mad rush to get stuff back into
the 370 product pipeline. 370-xa was going to take 7-8 yrs (with 31-bit
addressing, access registers, program call  return, etc). the stop-gap
was 3033 ... which was 168 wiring/logic remapped to faster chip
technology.  The increasing machine capacity was adding more
applications, tending to grow the common segment and putting massive
pressure on available (virtual) memory for applications.

There was speculation that 3033 cross-memory and dual-address space
hardware changes was purely to create incompatibilities for the clone
processor vendors ... however there was more than enuf other
justification, even if the clone vendors hadn't existed at all
(intermediate step on the way to access registers) ... aka dual-address
space instructions allowed subsystem to reach directly into the calling
application's virtual address to direclty access values pointed to by
the passed pointers (w/o requiring the common segment hack).

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Several Openings Available

2008-01-29 Thread Kelman, Tom
I would normal get permission from the owner of IBM-Main before posting
this, but I don't know who that is now.

 

There are several openings in the IT area of Commerce Bank in Kansas
City.  Most of these openings are in the applications area and would
have to do with WEB type applications.  These have opened up because we
will have several large projects going on this year.  However, Commerce
Bank so far has still been a company that hires permanently and fires
only for cause.  So once on board you should have a career for life if
you want it.  Note that Commerce Bank in Kansas City is different from
the one headquartered in New Jersey.  We have banking operations in
Missouri, Kansas, Illinois, Oklahoma, and Colorado.  I moved to Kansas
City from Atlanta in May of 2005 and was pleasantly surprised with the
city.  This is a very nice area to work and live in.

 

The positions currently available include console operators, application
programmers, application analysts, DBAs, and Data Architects.  One other
position that might be available soon is for a capacity planner with 1-5
years experience in the Windows (yea, I know that's an expanded four
letter word) and UNIX (AIX) areas.  I'm the z/OS capacity planner here
and my co-worker, the distributed capacity planner, is moving on to a
management position in another area (poor soul).  

 

If anyone is interested please contact me directly.  There is currently
an excellent referral bonus being offered but for me to get the bonus
I'll need to send you the referral form so you can submit it with your
application.  My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my
work phone is 816-760-7632.

 

As I said at the start, if I knew who currently controls the listserv I
would have asked permission before posting this.  Does anyone know the
current owner? 

 

Tom Kelman

Commerce Bank of Kansas City

(816) 760-7632

 



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Re: Retry: Bits in Region-Table Entries

2008-01-29 Thread Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 04:28:51PM +0100, Maarten Slegtenhorst wrote:
 Jeff,
 
 Thanks for the clarification. 
 
  There are also bits 62-63 (Table Length). E.g., you could use TF=0, 
  and TL=1 to have entries at the begining of the next level table, 
  but not use the entire table.
 
 Ofcourse! I misunderstood the TL-bits!
 So, basically, the combination of TF- and TL-bits determines which of
 the 4 quarters of the next level table are available.
 
 The ASCE has no TF-bits, so the Region-First-Table always starts at the
 Region-Table origin.

Yeah, that's what happens when I am too lazy and don't check the docs :)

While writing the previous email (which happens to be my first IBM-MAIN post
:) ), I realized that I actually have a bug in my pet project's code that
sets up the translation tables...so...thanks! :)

Josef 'Jeff' Sipek.

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Re: TSO TRANSMIT and instream data set DLM=

2008-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:33:23 +, Roy Hewitt wrote:

See the following as an example of how to include such data instream
using standard IBM utilities. This example includes Terse output (but
could easily be Transmit), that has been reformatted as 64 bytes and
offset to pos 3.

Thanks for suggesting the utilities.

Hmmm.  The largest divisor of 80 I could use is 40.  This cuts the
efficency to 50% from your 80% with TERSE.  That's still acceptable,
and I don't need TERSE which is not yet a standard IBM utility at
all supported releases.

I've done similar with uuencode as a test.

All things considered, I'd prefer not to frighten the customer with
complexity; I'll continue my trial-and-error search for a delimiter.
If I use only alphabetics and numerics, there are 3844 candidate
digraphs, which exceeds the number of records in my current TRANSMIT
archive, so I'm guaranteed a success; and even with a larger archive
the chance of failure is negligible.  In fact, it has always succeeded
for my data on the first trial.

I tried the experiment of putting a few records of all slashes in
my source PDS.  I did get '//' in 1-2, so my hopeful conjecture is
refuted.

Thanks again,
gil

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Sorry, I am still on z/OS 1.6...


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Subject: Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:04:26 -0600, Luis Miguel Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Have you tried  with the USS command:

  tail -n //'my.dataset.to.read'

  where n would be the number of lines

  Please let me know if you could do it.


That should work.   But why -n without a value?   It would be
tail -n nnn //'my.dataset.to.read' where nnn is the number of 
lines wouldn't it?  With BPXBATCH and z/OS 1.8 (or 1.5-1.7 with
the proper maintenance) STDOUT can point to a MVS data set.

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Re: DFHSM - RECALL PROBLEM

2008-01-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
Did you determine if the SAS data sets were FS or DA?  The older engine that 
was difficult to migrate and recall was DA for the DSORG.

Lizette


  
  We have narrowed it down to SAS.  The 6.0 version did not work.  The 8.1 
 version worked, but for some reason the 8.2 does not work.  We are still in 
 the process of checking.
   
  Thanks for your input. 

Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
At one time there was an issue with sas databases and DFHSM. I was 
told this has been corrected on the newer version(s) of SAS. If this 
is an old version of a database that was created with an older 
version (check with the SAS people as to what is OK to migrate and 
what isn't and if there are any restrictions like you must use(via 
DFHSM) DFDSS to restore you might be out of luck. We ran into this 
and really disliked SAS because of this incompatibility. They may 
have fixed this but it depends (I think) on the SAS version number 
that created it.


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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
No, I am not...

Paul Gilmartin wrote the following in this thread...
Why not? I have successfully ftp'ed raw (binary) SMF data, including the
RDWs from z/OS to Linux. I can then read the file using Java, decoding
the RDWs. UNIX itself does not care what data is being written to a
file. It is just a byte stream. Of course, if the creating program
itself does not have some way to delimit an end-of-record, then it
__might__ not be possible to reliably read the data. E.g. undefined
records which don't have an RDW, nor an end-of-record indicator (like
program objects).

Regards

Herbie
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Subject: Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:51:47 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote:

Hang on, I must be missing something...

This is my output from the tail command in OMVS in tso, which I am sure
can be used in BPXbatch. So If you mount your dataset in OMVS / USS as
/var/tailin OMVS.TAILIN and a second one as /var/tailout
OMVS.TAILOUT(empty) and issue the command tail /var/tailin 
/var/tailout, won't you get the best results ? No messing around with
other unix systems etc and code that someone needs to rewrite in 2
year's time?

You're the first person who has mentioned other unix systems;
I believe the rest of us had assumed from the beginning z/OS
Unix System Services.  This still leaves unanswered my concerns
about binary data in RECFM=V(B) and John M.'s about short
generations.

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Re: DFHSM - RECALL PROBLEM

2008-01-29 Thread willie bunter
Ed,
   
  We have narrowed it down to SAS.  The 6.0 version did not work.  The 8.1 
version worked, but for some reason the 8.2 does not work.  We are still in the 
process of checking.
   
  Thanks for your input. 

Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
At one time there was an issue with sas databases and DFHSM. I was 
told this has been corrected on the newer version(s) of SAS. If this 
is an old version of a database that was created with an older 
version (check with the SAS people as to what is OK to migrate and 
what isn't and if there are any restrictions like you must use(via 
DFHSM) DFDSS to restore you might be out of luck. We ran into this 
and really disliked SAS because of this incompatibility. They may 
have fixed this but it depends (I think) on the SAS version number 
that created it.

Ed

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IBM Link is Down -- Even the 3270 Purple Screen

2008-01-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
I was in IBMLink 2000 and it failed while trying to pull up an open ETR,
giving a panel that says Request for entitlement followed by more
text and Internal Server Error.

So I decided to switch over to the purple screen system. It doesn't
recognize my password. So the support person tried to explain that my
IBMLink ID and the VM system use the same ID 

It took a few minutes to get them to listen that in my case this isn't
true, I got one of the last IDs they were giving out before cutting off
any new IDs. That ID is non-functional now.

Looks like things are really busted.

One more observation. When you call the 800 number for IBMLink 2000
support, it seems interesting that you have to listen to a LONG winded
message about IBM Link being down before it will ever accept a menu
selection number. Now that should tell anyone who is looking at this
that there is a problem when this is the first thing you hear before
selecting a menu option specific to logon problems (or some such). I may
not be saying this well, but I think you can get the point.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: identify sas uage by component

2008-01-29 Thread Barry Merrill
Having a choice as to SMF record type is mandatory if you are going to be 
cutting them but there
should be a better way (OR) IBM could expand the number of SMF record types.

Hardly needed, I think.

MXG Supports (I claim) every SMF record on the face of the earth,
and there are only 127 separate products that write User SMF records
that need their own SMF ID, and it's impossible for any site to
have all of those products installed.

I'd guess a more realistic number is 20 to 30 user SMF records,
not 127.

Barry Merrill

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Re: DFHSM - RECALL PROBLEM

2008-01-29 Thread Barry Merrill
They may have fixed this but it depends (I think) on the SAS version number 
that created it.

The SAS Version 5 data libraries on MVS were not moveable
by MVS utilities, but in SAS Version 6, the data libraries
became conventional S/370 Physical Sequential datasets.

I believe SAS Version 6 became available in, uh, 1987.

Hard to believe this is an incompibility worth discussing now.

Barry Merrill

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Re: Several Openings Available

2008-01-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jan 2008 08:08:12 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman,
Tom) wrote:

However, Commerce
Bank so far has still been a company that hires permanently and fires
only for cause.  So once on board you should have a career for life if
you want it

That's a characteristic of companies I have valued greatly.   

But I will note that companies with such policies have been bought out
by other companies.   Things change.

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Finding the list owner (was RE: Several Openings Available)

2008-01-29 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
 
 I would normal get permission from the owner of IBM-Main 
 before posting this, but I don't know who that is now.

By design of the Listserv software, send an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to reach the list's owner/administrator
directly.  Thus, [EMAIL PROTECTED] will reach Big D
(Darren) directly.  (Yep, he's still the owner.)

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Re: IBM Cuts Employee Salaries

2008-01-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jan 2008 07:54:59 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scrood
Blued) wrote:

No, but every one of those employees who had achieved a work/life balance
that contained less than 5 hours of overtime a week have to now *start to
make family-killing demands on their time* to break even on weekly take home
pay.  To achieve equivalent total compensation is likely impossible, there
will not be enough overtime hours to do that.

It is quite possible that IBM created a cost-neutral solution, and
will pay out the same amount of money for the same amount of work -
for the company.

If so, some people will gain and some people will lose (this is the
nature of choices).Those who put in more than the average amount
of overtime will earn more, and those who put in less than the average
amount of overtime will earn less.

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Re: Several Openings Available

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Moulder
Tom

I just talked to a co-worker who lives there, he said it was 21 degrees with
30 mile an hour winds blowing the snow all over the place.

Tom Moulder

On a personal note -- good to see you at CMG and hope to see you in Vegas
this year.

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snip

I moved to Kansas City from Atlanta in May of 2005 and was pleasantly
surprised with the city.  This is a very nice area to work and live in.

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#29 New Opcodes

justification is justification ... not all have to be there based on the
same justification.

as an aside ... there was some similar speculation two decades ago about
such stuff. there was even some speculation that one of the other clone
processor vendors creation of macrocode was to enable them to quickly
adapt to such things (be more agile in tracking, implementing, deploying
changes).

misc. past posts mentioning macrocode.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#44 Linux paging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002p.html#48 Linux paging
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#9 Mainframe System 
Programmer/Administrator market demand?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#56 Wild hardware idea
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#59 Misuse of word microcode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005d.html#60 Misuse of word microcode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#24 Description of a new old-fashioned 
programming language
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#14 Multicores
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005p.html#29 Documentation for the New 
Instructions for the z9 Processor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#40 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#43 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#48 POWER6 on zSeries?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006b.html#38 blast from the past ... macrocode
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#9 Mainframe Jobs Going Away
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#32 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006j.html#35 Code density and performance?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#39 Using different storage key's
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006p.html#42 old hypervisor email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#33 Assembler question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006u.html#34 Assembler question
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#20 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007b.html#1 How many 36-bit Unix ports in the old 
days?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#3 Has anyone ever used self-modifying 
microcode? Would it even be useful?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007d.html#9 Has anyone ever used self-modifying 
microcode? Would it even be useful?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007j.html#84 VLIW pre-history
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#74 Non-Standard Mainframe Language?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#96 some questions about System z PR/SM

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Re: Retry: Bits in Region-Table Entries

2008-01-29 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
Jeff,

Thanks for the clarification. 

 There are also bits 62-63 (Table Length). E.g., you could use TF=0, 
 and TL=1 to have entries at the begining of the next level table, 
 but not use the entire table.

Ofcourse! I misunderstood the TL-bits!
So, basically, the combination of TF- and TL-bits determines which of
the 4 quarters of the next level table are available.

The ASCE has no TF-bits, so the Region-First-Table always starts at the
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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Ed Gould

On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:
---SNIP--



getting an instruction added could require a lot of justification.

-SNIP---


Or is this new behavior on  IBM's part  to starve off the INTEL  
Emulator?


I think my idea makes more sense.

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: New Opcodes
 
 
 New opcodes aren't something I worry too much about - I 
 managed to solve quite a few business
 problems with System/360.
 
 Now old opcodes - I hope they all stick around.
 
 The terminology used in the PDF file is interesting: 50+ 
 instructions added to improve
 compiled code efficiency.  It almost sounds like these will 
 be unpublished instructions foro
 use exclusively by IBM's compilers.

I hope not. I really __despise__ undocumented instructions. I don't know
why, but I do. I guess because I find computer architecture interesting.
But I don't see how a compiler can use an undocumented instruction. How
would I debug the program if the instruction gets an exception of some
sort? Or do source level, interactive, debugging at the assembler level?


And, if they are reserved for IBM only compilers, that is anti
competative. And what about GCC on Linux? I guess it would not be able
to use the instructions.

Undocumented, problem state, instructions are __EVIL__ as far as I am
concerned. Yes, you've finally found something that I am a bit
passionate about grin.

 
 Down at metal level it's quite a different architecture.  I 
 wouldn't be surprised to see some
 object code optimized a little with special instructions.
 
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Re: System abend D38 - what is that ?

2008-01-29 Thread Binyamin Dissen
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:What happens if you disable Fault Analyzer? Do you still get the SD38?

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Re: [OT] Not exactly the best Friday off topic post

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Sorry, I missed it, I thought that you were still in your current
position for a bit...

Regards

Herbie


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Thanks for the heads-up, but as you can see from my sigline, I am
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at US Bank.

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Bob,

There is a MVS Position in USBank open at the moment... Maybe Richard
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Re: [OT] Not exactly the best Friday off topic post

2008-01-29 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Herbie,

Thanks for the heads-up, but as you can see from my sigline, I am
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Retry: Bits in Region-Table Entries

2008-01-29 Thread Maarten Slegtenhorst
L.s,

This is a retry of an earlier post.
Since I got no response, I'm wondering if my questions are unclear!?

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Recently I had my first system programmer course ( ES15 ).
It was meant as a MVS refresh-course but it contained a lot more information 
than expected.
So now I am slowly working through the course materials checking if I 
understand everything.

At the moment I am looking into 64-bit addressing and some things are unclear.
The Principles of Operation didn't help as much as I hoped.

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Short version questions:

- Are region tables filled back to front in blocks of 4096 bytes ( 512 
* 64-bit entries )?
- Am I correct that the maximum needed storage for all the tables is 
~32 Petabyte?:

If I assume there are 5 Region-Second-Tables, then:
- Bit 58 ( region invalid bit ) of the entries 2044 to 2048 of the 
Region-First-Table is 0?
- Bit 58 of entries 1537 to 2043 of the Region-First-Table is 1?
- Bits 0 - 51 of entries 1537 to 2043 of the First-Region-Table are 
also 0?
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Long version:

The first part of the address ( RFX, 11 bits ) is the index in the 
Region-First-Table of the entry that points to the beginning of the 
Region-Second-Table.
So far so good! Everything crystal clear.

Now the entry in Region-First-Table itself.
Bits 0 - 51 plus 12 zeros is the address of the associated Region-Second-Table. 
Ok 
Bits 52 - 55 are not used in region tables. Ok 
Bits 56 - 57 : 0-3 * 4096 bytes is the length of the unused first part of the 
Region-Second-Table:

   - So Region tables are filled back to front in blocks of 4096 bytes ( 512 
entries )?

Bit 58 : Region-Invalid Bit. When the bit is one, the Region-Second-Table 
associated with the entry is not valid.

   So... If I assume there are 5 Region-Second-Tables, then:
   - Bit 58 of the entries 2044 to 2048 of the First-Region-Table is 0?
   - Bit 58 of entries 1537 to 2043 of the First-Region-Table is 1?
   - Bits 0 - 51 of entries 1537 to 2043 of the First-Region-Table are also 0?


Am I correct that the maximum needed storage for all the 
tables is ~32 Petabyte?:
--
1 Region-First-Table 
  2048 entries of 8 bytes = 16.384 bytes +

2048 Region-Second-Tables
  2048 * 2048 entries of 8 bytes = 33.554.432 bytes +

2048^2 Region-Third-Tables
  2048^2 * 2048 entries of 8 bytes = 68.719.476.736 bytes +

2048^3 Segment-Tables
  2048^3 * 2048 entries of 8 bytes = 140.737.488.355.328 bytes +

2048^4 Page Tables
  2048^4 * 256 entries of 8 bytes = 36.028.797.018.963.968 bytes
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z/OS 1.9 TCPIP

2008-01-29 Thread Crispin Hugo
According to chapter 14 of  z/OS Communications ServerIP Sockets
Application Programming Interface Guide and Reference Version 1 Release 9
SC31-8788-06 there should be some sample REXX execs in SEZAINST, but I
can't see them. The REXX execs I am looking for are EZARXS06, EZARXS05,
EZARXS04 and EZARXS03

Can someone out there who has z/OS 1.9 see if they have these examples in
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CS025I contridiction

2008-01-29 Thread Steve Emson
Given that the program(EQQXINIX) is not defined as program controlled with 
RACF, what are the circumstances which cause it to be treated as program 
controlled?
The error message manual for CSV025I indicates This error might occur when 
a user has EXECUTE access to a problem library's data set profile, even if 
none of the program modules involved are RACF program protected. 
 
WHy does it think EQQXINIX is program controlled?

ICH419I THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT CONTROLLED. ATTEMPT TO LOAD 
PROGRAM EQQXINIX FROM LIBRARY SYS1.EQQ.SEQQLMD0 FAILED.
ICH420I PROGRAM IKJEES73 FROM LIBRARY SYS1.CMDLIB CAUSED THE 
ENVIRONMENT TO BECOME UNCONTROLLED.
ICH420I PROGRAM EXEC FROM LIBRARY SYS1.CMDLIB CAUSED THE 
ENVIRONMENT TO BECOME UNCONTROLLED. 
CSV025I PROGRAM CONTROLLED MODULE EQQXINIX NOT ACCESSED, USER 
UNAUTHORIZED
  

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 1/29/2008 7:49:27 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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I know that there are a few not 
listed in the POO.  Still, it  sounds like it's a lot over 50.



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Re: DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?

2008-01-29 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John
 
 This is likely a strange question. But does anybody know of 
 anything which can take a COBOL copy book (file defination) 
 and create DFSORT symbols? Or maybe something that can post 
 process a COBOL compile listing and create DFSORT symbols?
 
 What I would like is a way to __easily__ create a DFSORT step 
 which can read an input file and do selection and 
 reformatting so that the resulting output file is simply 
 printable EBCDIC. This output file would then be ftp'ed to 
 a Windows / Linux server which would use it to update a 
 relational database. We don't have any relational database 
 software on z/OS. I want to use symbols so that, hopefully, 
 even a non-programmer could easily learn how to write such a 
 program.

ICETOOL?

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Need a SMF tool

2008-01-29 Thread Hal Merritt
I had some task suck a lot of CPU the other day, but I don't have any
tools handy to hunt this anomaly down. Would someone kindly point me to
their favorite freeware SMF tool?

 

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Re: System abend D38 - what is that ?

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Binyamin,

I did send a second one saying please ignore...
But yes, since you asked... I am curious what the end result was...

Herbie


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:What happens if you disable Fault Analyzer? Do you still get the SD38?

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Re: identify sas uage by component

2008-01-29 Thread Kelman, Tom
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 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 7:00 PM
 
 Tom:
 
 I do NOT know a lot about SAS I have used it a few times to create
 some reports. There are things you can do in SAS that some other
 report writers cannot do so the preference is to do it in SAS.
 
 My *VAGUE* recollection at one time there was a STC that printed
 graphs out on an IBM color printer 3287(?). You would run SAS and
 invoke SASGRAPH and that would somehow communicate with the STC. I
 never did much with sasgraph other than to set up the STC.
 
 If you are talking some components of SAS then I agree that SAS
 cutting the SMF record is probably the only way.
 
 If you are talking about SAS itself running as a batch job the type
 (4 or 3X) is a reasonable way of catching it. Otherwise you are stuck
 with SAS creating the SMF record.
 
 Personally I am *LOATH* to let programs cut their own records. I have
 seen (in the past) where they cut records and the layouts are like
 say DFSORT records and use the same number and the program that then
 processes the records abends because of this discrepancy. If I were
 to do it. I would make sure that any records it cuts do *NOT* get
 into the weekly or Monthly cumulative tapes.
 
 Also probably you may have to make the SAS  library APF authorized in
 order to cut SMF records, not a good thing to let loose in the
 general population (make sure its write protected).
 
 Ed
 
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set up authorized libraries loose on the general population.  That would
be a disastrous situation.  What we've done is copy the SVC supplied by
SAS into a separate library controlled by the sysprogs. In fact the SAS
product itself is installed by me, the capacity planner, and the general
community doesn't have update access to the load libraries. Also, we
have several other OEM products that cut SMF records such as CA's
TopSecret, the Omegamon products, SuperSession, and IAM.  I'm sure other
companies have those also. Each product gives the user the ability to
choose an SMF record number to use.  We just keep track of what's been
assigned so that we don't duplicate numbers.  The general user community
(read application programmers) has to go through the sysprogs if they
have a system that cuts SMF records or installs SVCs.

From what you have posted your SAS experience seems a might old.  It has
changed a lot since the process you remember to print a graph on a color
printer.  There is no longer an SVC to control printing to the graphics
printers.  Now I just create the graph using GPLOT, GCHART, or another
SAS/Graph PROC and an appropriate device definition and put it out as a
gif in the USS files.  I can then pull it up in my browser, or a manager
can pull it up in his.  You can also use the SAS Output Delivery System
(ODS) to place the graph into a pdf or html file.  Of course others may
do it differently and probably use SAS on Windows or UNIX.  At my shop
we still run SAS for z/OS.

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Re: z/OS 1.9 TCPIP

2008-01-29 Thread Crispin Hugo
Thanks MArk

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Re: System abend D38 - what is that ?

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
What happens if you disable Fault Analyzer? Do you still get the SD38?

Regards

Herbie


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Subject: SV: System abend D38 - what is that ?

To avoid confusion:  there is no D37, only a D38 !
(D37 is mentioned partly du to my fumble fingers, 
partly as a wild guilty by association teory...)

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 In a message dated 11/26/2007 9:34:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 would  need to see the entire dump,
 No clue as to what SVC 145 is, which is  hardcoded in a cobol 
 program??
 
 Something is screwy in  LE.
 
 
 
 
 Well it may be that due to the D37 out of space the pgm took 
 a wild branch  
 on an unhandled condition. Probably maybe fix the D37 the D38 
 goes  away?
 
 
 
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Re: CS025I contridiction

2008-01-29 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:30:49 -0600, Steve Emson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Given that the program(EQQXINIX) is not defined as program controlled with
RACF, what are the circumstances which cause it to be treated as program
controlled?
The error message manual for CSV025I indicates This error might occur when
a user has EXECUTE access to a problem library's data set profile, even if
none of the program modules involved are RACF program protected.

WHy does it think EQQXINIX is program controlled?

ICH419I THE ENVIRONMENT IS NOT CONTROLLED. ATTEMPT TO LOAD
PROGRAM EQQXINIX FROM LIBRARY SYS1.EQQ.SEQQLMD0 FAILED.
ICH420I PROGRAM IKJEES73 FROM LIBRARY SYS1.CMDLIB CAUSED THE
ENVIRONMENT TO BECOME UNCONTROLLED.
ICH420I PROGRAM EXEC FROM LIBRARY SYS1.CMDLIB CAUSED THE
ENVIRONMENT TO BECOME UNCONTROLLED.
CSV025I PROGRAM CONTROLLED MODULE EQQXINIX NOT ACCESSED, USER
UNAUTHORIZED

One of the following is almost certainly true:
(a) You have a PROGRAM profile that covers EQQXINIX and grants the user EXECUTE.
(b) You have a DATASET profile for the library containing EQQXINIX that
grants the user EXECUTE.


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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:54:53 EST, Ed Finnell wrote:

Message dated 1/29/2008 7:49:27 A.M. CST, m42tom-ibmmain writes:

I know that there are a few not
listed in the POO.  Still, it  sounds like it's a lot over 50.

Those are just the graphics and sound   instructions for the GDDM 
replacement?
 
 
Oh, that makes sense -- the new PTF instruction must mean:
 Play The Flute
   (or Play The Fiddle?) 
 
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Re: DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?

2008-01-29 Thread Frank Yaeger
John McKown wrote on 01/29/2008 09:46:53 AM:
 This is likely a strange question. But does anybody know of anything
 which can take a COBOL copy book (file defination) and create DFSORT
 symbols? Or maybe something that can post process a COBOL compile
 listing and create DFSORT symbols?

 What I would like is a way to __easily__ create a DFSORT step which can
 read an input file and do selection and reformatting so that the
 resulting output file is simply printable EBCDIC. This output file
 would then be ftp'ed to a Windows / Linux server which would use it to
 update a relational database. We don't have any relational database
 software on z/OS. I want to use symbols so that, hopefully, even a
 non-programmer could easily learn how to write such a program.

John,

We have a Rexx in the Smart DFSORT Tricks document that can do what
you asked for.  See Create DFSORT Symbols from COBOL COPYs at:

http://www.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 1/29/2008 12:06:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Play The Flute



Getting kind of silly but I liked-Plunk  Twanger Froggie or Push The FUD.







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DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
This is likely a strange question. But does anybody know of anything
which can take a COBOL copy book (file defination) and create DFSORT
symbols? Or maybe something that can post process a COBOL compile
listing and create DFSORT symbols?

What I would like is a way to __easily__ create a DFSORT step which can
read an input file and do selection and reformatting so that the
resulting output file is simply printable EBCDIC. This output file
would then be ftp'ed to a Windows / Linux server which would use it to
update a relational database. We don't have any relational database
software on z/OS. I want to use symbols so that, hopefully, even a
non-programmer could easily learn how to write such a program.

Just a thought.

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Re: DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?

2008-01-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jan 2008 09:47:10 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown,
John) wrote:

This is likely a strange question. But does anybody know of anything
which can take a COBOL copy book (file defination) and create DFSORT
symbols? Or maybe something that can post process a COBOL compile
listing and create DFSORT symbols?

I suppose we could write a CoBOL program that read in a copybook
member:
01  BR-BILL-REC-WORK.  
05  BR-BILL-SORT-KEY.  
10  FILLERPIC X.   
10  ZIP   PIC X(5).   
10  NAME  PIC X(16).  
10  DORM  PIC X(4).   
10  ROOM  PIC X(6).   
10  FLAG   PIC X(1).   
10  FILLERPIC X(5).


and write out a SYMNAMES:
FILLER,01,01,CH   
ZIP,*,05,CH   
NAME,*,05,CH  
DORM,=,02,CH  
ROOM,=,04,CH  
SUFFIX,*,01,CH
FLAG,*,01,CH  

It doesn't look trivial.  (Note the initial Filler)
  

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Re: System abend D38 - what is that ? Please ignore, Got my dates mixed up....

2008-01-29 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
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Dalsen, Herbie
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Subject: Re: System abend D38 - what is that ?

What happens if you disable Fault Analyzer? Do you still get the SD38?

Regards

Herbie


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Subject: SV: System abend D38 - what is that ?

To avoid confusion:  there is no D37, only a D38 !
(D37 is mentioned partly du to my fumble fingers, 
partly as a wild guilty by association teory...)

Thomas

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 Ämne: Re: System abend D38 - what is that ?
 
  
 In a message dated 11/26/2007 9:34:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 would  need to see the entire dump,
 No clue as to what SVC 145 is, which is  hardcoded in a cobol 
 program??
 
 Something is screwy in  LE.
 
 
 
 
 Well it may be that due to the D37 out of space the pgm took 
 a wild branch  
 on an unhandled condition. Probably maybe fix the D37 the D38 
 goes  away?
 
 
 
 **Check out AOL's list of 
 2007's hottest 
 products.
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Re: EMC PAV

2008-01-29 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip-
How can you tell if a Sales Person is lying? ...their mouth is open!
---unsnip--
Or his lips are moving! G

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Re: Dumb idea - pandering to the other systems people?

2008-01-29 Thread Rick Fochtman

---snip--


Welcome to the dumbing down of IT, regardless of platform.

I'm not a cynic!
I'm a realist!
 


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The REALISTS live in them.

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:42:37 -, Phil Payne wrote:

The terminology used in the PDF file is interesting: 50+ instructions added 
to 
improve
compiled code efficiency.

It also says, 894 instructions (668 implemented entirely in hardware)

The latest POO lists about 750 instructions.  I know that there are a few not 
listed in the POO.  Still, it sounds like it's a lot over 50.

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Re: Two things missing from DFSORT in a perfect world?

2008-01-29 Thread Frank Yaeger
Henry Willard wrote on 01/28/2008 05:32:45 PM:
 BTW, the dotted decimal representation of 8520E301 is 133.32.227.1.
 133.032.227.001 is 851AE301. Leading zeros means octal.

The original poster asked for ddd.ddd.ddd.ddd output so that's what
I showed the DFSORT statements for.  You can suppress the leading zeros
using DFSORT's SQZ function as follows:

  OPTION COPY
  INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,
BUILD=(1:1,1,BI,EDIT=(IIT),5:2,1,BI,EDIT=(IIT),
   9:3,1,BI,EDIT=(IIT),13:4,1,BI,EDIT=(IIT))),
   IFTHEN=(WHEN=INIT,BUILD=(1,15,SQZ=(SHIFT=LEFT,MID=C'.')))

The output for the example input I showed would then be:

5.226.19.8
133.32.227.1

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Jon Brock
I think it's Pity The Fool.  It's a very dangerous op-code to attempt.

Not many people know that Mr. T moonlights as a hardware architect.

Jon



snip
 Second, there was one mnemonic that caught my eye.  I do not 
 know what it does, but it's probably one that none of us will 
 forget:  PTF.
 
 
 
 Keith E. Moe

Perform The Following? Maybe it is the long wanted execute immediate
instruction? Waiting with worm on tongue to read more.
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Re: DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Yaeger
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:08 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?
 
 
 John McKown wrote on 01/29/2008 09:46:53 AM:
  This is likely a strange question. But does anybody know of anything
  which can take a COBOL copy book (file defination) and create DFSORT
  symbols? Or maybe something that can post process a COBOL compile
  listing and create DFSORT symbols?
 
  What I would like is a way to __easily__ create a DFSORT 
 step which can
  read an input file and do selection and reformatting so that the
  resulting output file is simply printable EBCDIC. This output file
  would then be ftp'ed to a Windows / Linux server which 
 would use it to
  update a relational database. We don't have any relational database
  software on z/OS. I want to use symbols so that, hopefully, even a
  non-programmer could easily learn how to write such a program.
 
 John,
 
 We have a Rexx in the Smart DFSORT Tricks document that can do what
 you asked for.  See Create DFSORT Symbols from COBOL COPYs at:
 
 http://www.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/
 

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Re: DFSORT symbols from COBOL copybook?

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John
  
  This is likely a strange question. But does anybody know of 
  anything which can take a COBOL copy book (file defination) 
  and create DFSORT symbols? Or maybe something that can post 
  process a COBOL compile listing and create DFSORT symbols?
  
  What I would like is a way to __easily__ create a DFSORT step 
  which can read an input file and do selection and 
  reformatting so that the resulting output file is simply 
  printable EBCDIC. This output file would then be ftp'ed to 
  a Windows / Linux server which would use it to update a 
  relational database. We don't have any relational database 
  software on z/OS. I want to use symbols so that, hopefully, 
  even a non-programmer could easily learn how to write such a 
  program.
 
 ICETOOL?
 
 -jc-

How? I know how to use ICETOOL to get what I want, once I have the
symbols. But reading the COBOL code and creating the symbols is the
problem. Oh, I could do it by hand. But I'm far too lazy to do that!

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Re: New Opcodes

2008-01-29 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt
 
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:54:53 EST, Ed Finnell wrote:
 
 Message dated 1/29/2008 7:49:27 A.M. CST, m42tom-ibmmain writes:
 
 I know that there are a few not
 listed in the POO.  Still, it  sounds like it's a lot over 50.
 
 Those are just the graphics and sound   instructions for the GDDM 
 replacement?
  
  
 Oh, that makes sense -- the new PTF instruction must mean:
  Play The Flute
(or Play The Fiddle?) 

I doubt IBM would call it a Fiddle.  Violin would seem more their
style.  :-)

How about Point The Finger?

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Re: Need a SMF tool

2008-01-29 Thread David Logan
Freeware? C++ or any other language or scripting language. Use IFASMFDP to
dump the type 30 records, use the manual to figure out the record layout,
and a programming or scripting language to extract the pertinent data.

You may then be able to use Excel or some type of data manager/graphing tool
to get visual displays of how much CPU time various things took, or
something with which you can perform easy sorting.

David Logan

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I had some task suck a lot of CPU the other day, but I don't have any
tools handy to hunt this anomaly down. Would someone kindly point me to
their favorite freeware SMF tool?

 

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Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Pat Mihalec
I know I'm behind the curve, but management is to blame. I am currently 
running z/OS 1.4 in 32 byte. I think they are going to let me upgrade, at 
last.
The question I need assistance on is this: I am planning on doing a POR so 
that I can set the memory for the Tech LPAR for no expanded and IPL it for 
64 bit processing. Can I setup the PROD LPAR so that when I'm ready to IPL 
it to 64 byte I just need to do the IPL and not a second POR?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Arial Font printing on Mainframe

2008-01-29 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jan 2008 12:06:47 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lizette
Koehler) wrote:

I am trying to help out an application group that is designing forms on a PC 
and then uploading them to the mainframe for printing.

We have an Infoprint 4445 Printer (?) and what they want to see is an Arial 
Font that is about a 12 pitch.  I do not have a pitch ruler so I am guessing 
at the 12, it maybe smaller.

I'm not familiar with your printer, but I've written programs that
used special fonts (and even colors) on mainframe printers.   These
have been designed to work with the printer control language.

Think of Postscript - except what I passed was simpler and less
universal.   The JCL would include a line such as:

// PRTM2='(R,,747S),DEST=R0010',

which loads the print program into the printer and tells the operator
what paper to use.Then my CoBOL includes control characters that
that print program recognized to pick the font. My current printer
looks at a character in column 1 and prints a line with that font.
Such lines don't have to include form feeds, allowing multiple fonts
on a printed page.

This is highly individual - you have to work with the particular
mainframe printer.

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
This might have been mentioned, but using our free Dataset Pipes
tool, this is pretty easy if your file is text, since tail would
work:

// EXEC DTLSPAWN
//LOG DD DISP=OLD,DSN=...
//STDIN DD *
   fromdsn //DD:LOG \
 | tail -2000 \
 | todsn //DD:LOG
//

If the dataset has fixed length, binary records (say length=100), then
you can do this:

// EXEC DTLSPAWN
//LOG DD DISP=OLD,DSN=...
//STDIN DD *
   fromdsn -b //DD:LOG \
 | tail -c -20 \
 | todsn -b //DD:LOG
//

But, if the data is variable AND binary, then you can't use newlines
to terminate the stream (the default for fromdsn and todsn).
You could write a program like tail that uses ibm rdws as record prefixes.
The program would read all of the records from stdin into a
wrap-around table of the limiting size and then write the table
out to stdout.   Then you could have this:

// EXEC DTLSPAWN
//LOG DD DISP=OLD,DSN=...
//STDIN DD *
   fromdsn -l ibmrdw //DD:LOG \
 | rdw-tail -2000 \
 | todsn -l ibmrdw //DD:LOG
//

(Of course, if you are going to write a program like this, you could
have it just update the dataset rather than piping).




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 Sorry, I am still on z/OS 1.6...

 If you have the PTF for OA11699 (UA23196) then you can direct STDOUT to
 SYSOUT or a MVS data set.  It's old at this point... it has been
 available
 since December 2005.

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 Have you tried  with the USS command:
 
   tail -n //'my.dataset.to.read'
 
   where n would be the number of lines
 
   Please let me know if you could do it.
 
 
 That should work.   But why -n without a value?   It would be
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 lines wouldn't it?  With BPXBATCH and z/OS 1.8 (or 1.5-1.7 with
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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am planning on doing a POR so that I can set the memory for the Tech LPAR 
for no expanded and IPL it for 64 bit processing. Can I setup the PROD LPAR so 
that when I'm ready to IPL it to 64 byte I just need to do the IPL and not a 
second POR?

You don't need a POR, at all.
Just change the address mode and memory settings, de-activate and re-activate 
each LPAR, as you move forward.

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Re: Arial Font printing on Mainframe

2008-01-29 Thread Hal Merritt
You print on printers, not the mainframe ;-)

Seriously, the printer doc is where you need to look. You send directives to 
the printer to load whatever fonts, overlays, or action sequences (page eject, 
etc). If the device can't do that font, then you are out of luck. 

Printing subsystems (VPS is one example, AFP another) might offer some 
facilities to simplify/complicate the process. You would consult that doc to 
fund out the 'right stuff'.  

And, yes, the correct technical term is 'stuff' ;-) I have used some other 
terms, but they are not suitable for this list :-))

Another possibility is that you may have to route the print data through 
another program (XMITIP, for example) to get what you want. 

Now, IMHO, printing is a career path and my comments may or may not apply to 
any known reality. 

HTH and good luck 
 

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Subject: Arial Font printing on Mainframe

I am trying to help out an application group that is designing forms on a PC 
and then uploading them to the mainframe for printing.

We have an Infoprint 4445 Printer (?) and what they want to see is an Arial 
Font that is about a 12 pitch.  I do not have a pitch ruler so I am guessing at 
the 12, it maybe smaller.

I have been looking for manuals or archives that might help me understand how 
to print Arial on the Mainframe in 12pitch font.

I remember that there are Pagedef and Formdefs that can help, but I have not 
located a manual that says a GT12 is this or a GF15 is that.

I am just looking for documentation that identifies the normal core fonts that 
exist on the mainframe (or how to find them) and what ?defs I need to use to 
get the same page print on the infoprint that I get on a windows attached 
printer.

We are using ExStream Dialogue drivers on the mainframe to do the print the 
files from the PC, I am just thinking that perhaps the JCL needs a little 
Output tweaking.

The test I will use is printing a word doc with Arial 12.  Then printing the 
same file to the mainframe printer.  If they are identical, then I have the 
right combination of stuff (that is the technical term? Stuff?).

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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Tom Schmidt
...so are you going to jump from z/OS 1.4 to 1.9 ?  Or 1.8?  
 
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Re: PSF

2008-01-29 Thread Ron Wells
Anyone aware of ACIF being a seperate cost item??? does not seem to come 
with PSF4.1 ...
anyone know the prod. number it maybe listed under now..?

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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread tony babonas
Dontcha love it when the platform stays and the management leaves.  :-)


 

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Thanks, we have not done any upgrades to the Mainframe in over two years. 
My memory cells were very fuzzy on this. I had changed the memory but had 
not IPL'd. We just did that now and all is looking good.
The management that was here has left. The decision has been made that the 
cpu will remain here for at least 3 more years and the current management 
agrees living on unsupported software for that long is not a good idea.
Now I get to take off my new Unix hat and put the MVS hat back on. 

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 I am planning on doing a POR so that I can set the memory 
 for the Tech LPAR for no expanded and IPL it for 64 bit 
 processing. Can I setup the PROD LPAR so that when I'm ready 
 to IPL it to 64 byte I just need to do the IPL and not a second POR?
 
 You don't need a POR, at all.
 Just change the address mode and memory settings, de-activate 
 and re-activate each LPAR, as you move forward.

And you don't even absolutely __need__ to do a deactivate and activate,
just change to 64 bit mode in the LOAD member. If your LPAR defination
has XSTOR in 64 bit mode, you'll just get a whining message at IPL time
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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Pat Mihalec
Thanks, we have not done any upgrades to the Mainframe in over two years. 
My memory cells were very fuzzy on this. I had changed the memory but had 
not IPL'd. We just did that now and all is looking good.
The management that was here has left. The decision has been made that the 
cpu will remain here for at least 3 more years and the current management 
agrees living on unsupported software for that long is not a good idea.
Now I get to take off my new Unix hat and put the MVS hat back on. 

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Rush University Medical Center
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 I am planning on doing a POR so that I can set the memory 
 for the Tech LPAR for no expanded and IPL it for 64 bit 
 processing. Can I setup the PROD LPAR so that when I'm ready 
 to IPL it to 64 byte I just need to do the IPL and not a second POR?
 
 You don't need a POR, at all.
 Just change the address mode and memory settings, de-activate 
 and re-activate each LPAR, as you move forward.

And you don't even absolutely __need__ to do a deactivate and activate,
just change to 64 bit mode in the LOAD member. If your LPAR defination
has XSTOR in 64 bit mode, you'll just get a whining message at IPL time
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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If your LPAR defination has XSTOR in 64 bit mode, you'll just get a whining 
message at IPL time and the XSTOR is ignored.

You'll get more than that!
We had a large IMS/DB2 environment that went from 10GB (2C/8E) to 2GB (ignored 
the XSTOR).
Paging went through the roof; the AUX couldn't handle it; transactions died; 
eventually the sub-systems crashed.

So, yes, you DO need to de/re-activate and change the definition in a large 
online environment!

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Re: Need a SMF tool

2008-01-29 Thread Eric Bielefeld
RMF Monitor 2 or 3 can show you what is asid is causing a spike in activity, 
but the RMF Post Processor doesn't give you any information about individual 
address spaces.  The workload manager report could show you what workload is 
spiking, but not the individual address space.

Eric

 Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:59:47 -0600, Hal Merritt 
 
 This may not be everybody's favorite SMF tool, but what about RMF? 
 
 If you're running the RMF, RMF II, RMF III functions, then you can use 
 on-line ISPF-panel driven functions to review the data. Older history 
 data can also be reviewed using the batch RMF Post Processor 
 program.
 
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Re: Icetool question

2008-01-29 Thread Howard Brazee
Frank Yaeger just answered that for me:

There are several ways to do this with DFSORT/ICETOOL. If you just
want a list of the duplicate SSNs, the easiest way is to use an OCCURS
job something like this:

//S1 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL
//TOOLMSG DD SYSOUT=*
//DFSMSG DD SYSOUT=*
//IN DD *
2
1
1
1
3
4
3
1
/*
//OUT DD SYSOUT=*
//TOOLIN DD *
OCCURS FROM(IN) LIST(OUT) HEADER('SSN') ON(1,9,CH) ALLDUPS
/*

OUT would have:

SSN 
 
1 
3 

If you want something else, show me an example of the input records
and what you want for output.

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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Jacobs
Pat Mihalec wrote:
 I know I'm behind the curve, but management is to blame. I am currently 
 running z/OS 1.4 in 32 byte. I think they are going to let me upgrade, at 
 last.
 The question I need assistance on is this: I am planning on doing a POR so 
 that I can set the memory for the Tech LPAR for no expanded and IPL it for 
 64 bit processing. Can I setup the PROD LPAR so that when I'm ready to IPL 
 it to 64 byte I just need to do the IPL and not a second POR?

 Thanks in advance.

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 Rush University Medical Center
 Senior System Programmer
 (312) 942-8386
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You don't need to POR the box. Just deactivate the LPAR, change the
storage allocations in the HMC for the lpar and reactivate/ipl.

If you have ARCHLVL in LOADxx make sure that it specifies 2 (Or take it
out altogether)

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Re: Need a SMF tool

2008-01-29 Thread Ulrich Krueger
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:59:47 -0600, Hal Merritt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had some task suck a lot of CPU the other day, but I don't have any
tools handy to hunt this anomaly down. Would someone kindly point 
me to
their favorite freeware SMF tool?

 

Thanks!! 


This may not be everybody's favorite SMF tool, but what about RMF? 

If you're running the RMF, RMF II, RMF III functions, then you can use 
on-line ISPF-panel driven functions to review the data. Older history 
data can also be reviewed using the batch RMF Post Processor 
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Re: Job ad for z/OS systems programmer trainee

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Green
You can include our own esteemed Mr. Marshall in that group!  If I recall, and 
I am certain he will correct me if I am wrong, he was a Captain in the Air 
Force.

His contributions to the various tapes were much read and I can certainly say 
I learned quite a bit from reading his source code back in the earlier-mid 80's.



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On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:12 AM, Traylor, Terry wrote:

 When asked about the significance of a college degree for a  
 prospective
 employee, a friend responded that it showed that the individual had to
 do thing they didn't like or didn't want to do, but did them well  
 enough
 to pass.  The same could be said of any branch of military service.


  Terry Traylor
 charlesSCHWAB
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 SNIP--

Terry:
I was in the Army (back in the early 70's) and just from my  
experience I am not sure I can agree with you on that.
I had exposure from e2's to Full bird Colonel's. The lifers (as we  
called them) were sometimes nice people but technical?? nope. I had  
to train 2 sp/7's and 1 E5 and not one of them had any idea what JCL  
was and they never wrote a lick of code. When IBM came in to give os  
an OS/Internals class There were two enlisted people. Myself and an  
(on leave from IBM type) who had been drafted. He was one of the  
people who wrote MVS internals(it was being worked on in the early  
70's) and he was so far advanced he snickered when the instructor was  
talking about dispatching priority and he said under his breath you  
don't know what's coming.
The LT's were generally nice and had some experience but they did  
learn quickly I will give them that. I caught one doing something  
that was a NO no and turned him in. It was no biggy but the rules  
had to be enforced.
The point I am trying to get across is that most army types do not  
fit in well at a programmer jobs. I did *NOT* say all just most.
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Re: IBM Link is Down -- Even the 3270 Purple Screen

2008-01-29 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 1/29/2008 1:03:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And I was able to get in. I've been ok since then. I thought that  link
went away sometime ago when IBMLINK 2000 replaced IBMLINK.  Who
knows...



I guess it's run by blue face monkeys. They  just switch urls on the fly 
without doing any of the requisite maintence  or supoort you'd expect from a 
service organization(or we'd be skewered  for...) 







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Re: IBM Link is Down -- Even the 3270 Purple Screen

2008-01-29 Thread Dean Montevago
I got the same thing this morning when accessing IBMLINK via: The
Support  Download site. I got this email awhile later:

Please use bookmarks after sign-on to have a quick reference to the page
in their browser. Please do NOT to bookmark the sign-in page. 

ServiceLink page: 
https://www.ibm.com/ibmlink
https://www-304.ibm.com/jct03004c/ibmlink/ttpu/displayTTPUPage.wss?lc=e
ncc=US  
And I was able to get in. I've been ok since then. I thought that link
went away sometime ago when IBMLINK 2000 replaced IBMLINK. Who
knows...





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Re: IBM Link is Down -- Even the 3270 Purple Screen

2008-01-29 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Behalf Of Dean Montevago
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I got the same thing this morning when accessing IBMLINK via: The
Support  Download site. I got this email awhile later:

Please use bookmarks after sign-on to have a quick reference to the page
in their browser. Please do NOT to bookmark the sign-in page.=20

ServiceLink page:=20
https://www.ibm.com/ibmlink
https://www-304.ibm.com/jct03004c/ibmlink/ttpu/displayTTPUPage.wss?lc=3
D=
e
ncc=3DUS =20
And I was able to get in. I've been ok since then. I thought that link
went away sometime ago when IBMLINK 2000 replaced IBMLINK. Who
knows...
SNIP

Well, my posting showed up about 2 hours after I sent it. Since then the
whole system has been rebooted (I just got off the phone with one of the
people involved). And it seems that the VM system was somehow troubled
by all this.

What was interesting, in case you missed this in my original posting, I
was already logged on and trying to pick up one of our ETRs to update it
-- after getting out of one where I had read its updates.

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Re: TSO TRANSMIT and instream data set DLM=

2008-01-29 Thread Roy Hewitt

Paul Gilmartin wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:33:23 +, Roy Hewitt wrote:

See the following as an example of how to include such data instream
using standard IBM utilities. This example includes Terse output (but
could easily be Transmit), that has been reformatted as 64 bytes and
offset to pos 3.


Thanks for suggesting the utilities.

Hmmm.  The largest divisor of 80 I could use is 40.  This cuts the
efficency to 50% from your 80% with TERSE.  That's still acceptable,
and I don't need TERSE which is not yet a standard IBM utility at
all supported releases.


Just to clarify, 64 has to be a factor of the blocksize, not the record 
length, so with FB 80, blksize=8000, you could still split up to 64 byte 
chunks


I've done similar with uuencode as a test.

All things considered, I'd prefer not to frighten the customer with
complexity; 


I can understand that

Roy

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Re: Several Openings Available

2008-01-29 Thread Gary Green
Yeah...  Like the OTHER Commerce Bank Tom mentioned, the one in New Jersey...  
They were bought out by TD BankNorth.

I know many people at Commerce, and a couple at TD and I am curious what 
changes will take place during this consolidation.  Especially since the TD 
mainframe operations were moved from Maine to Canada last year.


 On Tue Jan 29  9:57 , Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

On 29 Jan 2008 08:08:12 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelman,
Tom) wrote:

However, Commerce
Bank so far has still been a company that hires permanently and fires
only for cause.  So once on board you should have a career for life if
you want it

That's a characteristic of companies I have valued greatly.   

But I will note that companies with such policies have been bought out
by other companies.   Things change.

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Re: TSO TRANSMIT and instream data set DLM=

2008-01-29 Thread John Eells

Paul Gilmartin wrote:
snip

Hmmm.  The largest divisor of 80 I could use is 40.  This cuts the
efficency to 50% from your 80% with TERSE.  That's still acceptable,
and I don't need TERSE which is not yet a standard IBM utility at
all supported releases.

snip

See APAR OA19194, which makes AMATERSE, alias TRSMAIN, available on z/OS 
R7 and up.  That's all supported releases since R6 is out of service and 
AMATERSE is included in z/OS R9.  The PTFs closed 4 November 2007.  They 
are:


UA36927 - z/OS R7
UA36928 - z/OS R8

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Re: What Now?

2008-01-29 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Turns out that I can produce a report from TLMS11 which shows the names of 
all new tape datasets created the previous day, or on a specified date. With 
that as input I wrote some REXX code to scan for the VTS volumes I want 
based on patterns for the dataset name. Then it's a small matter of creating 
the control cards to feed into the stacking process for the EXPORT job.

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Arial Font printing on Mainframe

2008-01-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am trying to help out an application group that is designing forms on a PC 
and then uploading them to the mainframe for printing.

We have an Infoprint 4445 Printer (?) and what they want to see is an Arial 
Font that is about a 12 pitch.  I do not have a pitch ruler so I am guessing at 
the 12, it maybe smaller.

I have been looking for manuals or archives that might help me understand how 
to print Arial on the Mainframe in 12pitch font.

I remember that there are Pagedef and Formdefs that can help, but I have not 
located a manual that says a GT12 is this or a GF15 is that.

I am just looking for documentation that identifies the normal core fonts that 
exist on the mainframe (or how to find them) and what ?defs I need to use to 
get the same page print on the infoprint that I get on a windows attached 
printer.

We are using ExStream Dialogue drivers on the mainframe to do the print the 
files from the PC, I am just thinking that perhaps the JCL needs a little 
Output tweaking.

The test I will use is printing a word doc with Arial 12.  Then printing the 
same file to the mainframe printer.  If they are identical, then I have the 
right combination of stuff (that is the technical term? Stuff?).

Thanks

Lizette

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Re: Need a SMF tool

2008-01-29 Thread Pat Mihalec
I gather the SMF data and run a report off a PC using RMF Spreadsheet 
Reporter. You have to run a second report from the PC after you have 
gathered the data you want to report on. This second report ftp's a file 
back to the PC which is then pulled into a spreadsheet. It is free and it 
works.

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
And none of these relate to the original post. The OP wanted a automatic
way to have a file wrap around after n writes. He did not want a way
to write n entries to the file and then later only see the last n
entries in the file. He wanted the n+1 write to be written as the
first record on the file, n+2 to be the second, and so on. There is
basically no way to get what the OP wanted without changing his program,
which he indicated is not an option.

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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:13 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Question on 64 bit
 
 
 I am planning on doing a POR so that I can set the memory 
 for the Tech LPAR for no expanded and IPL it for 64 bit 
 processing. Can I setup the PROD LPAR so that when I'm ready 
 to IPL it to 64 byte I just need to do the IPL and not a second POR?
 
 You don't need a POR, at all.
 Just change the address mode and memory settings, de-activate 
 and re-activate each LPAR, as you move forward.

And you don't even absolutely __need__ to do a deactivate and activate,
just change to 64 bit mode in the LOAD member. If your LPAR defination
has XSTOR in 64 bit mode, you'll just get a whining message at IPL time
and the XSTOR is ignored.

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Re: Arial Font printing on Mainframe

2008-01-29 Thread Gregory, Gary G
GTxx is for the Gothic Text font where the XX is the pitch size (GT10
= 10 characters per inch horizontally, GT12 = 12 characters per inch
horizontally), etc.

If I recall correctly, GTxx is a fixed font vs. proportional.  

This is going back many years from when I did a lot of PAGEDEF and
FORMDEF generation and I think it's correct.  

Hope this helps.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hal Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Arial Font printing on Mainframe

You print on printers, not the mainframe ;-)

Seriously, the printer doc is where you need to look. You send
directives to the printer to load whatever fonts, overlays, or action
sequences (page eject, etc). If the device can't do that font, then you
are out of luck. 

Printing subsystems (VPS is one example, AFP another) might offer some
facilities to simplify/complicate the process. You would consult that
doc to fund out the 'right stuff'.  

And, yes, the correct technical term is 'stuff' ;-) I have used some
other terms, but they are not suitable for this list :-))

Another possibility is that you may have to route the print data through
another program (XMITIP, for example) to get what you want. 

Now, IMHO, printing is a career path and my comments may or may not
apply to any known reality. 

HTH and good luck 
 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Arial Font printing on Mainframe

I am trying to help out an application group that is designing forms on
a PC and then uploading them to the mainframe for printing.

We have an Infoprint 4445 Printer (?) and what they want to see is an
Arial Font that is about a 12 pitch.  I do not have a pitch ruler so I
am guessing at the 12, it maybe smaller.

I have been looking for manuals or archives that might help me
understand how to print Arial on the Mainframe in 12pitch font.

I remember that there are Pagedef and Formdefs that can help, but I have
not located a manual that says a GT12 is this or a GF15 is that.

I am just looking for documentation that identifies the normal core
fonts that exist on the mainframe (or how to find them) and what ?defs I
need to use to get the same page print on the infoprint that I get on a
windows attached printer.

We are using ExStream Dialogue drivers on the mainframe to do the print
the files from the PC, I am just thinking that perhaps the JCL needs a
little Output tweaking.

The test I will use is printing a word doc with Arial 12.  Then printing
the same file to the mainframe printer.  If they are identical, then I
have the right combination of stuff (that is the technical term?
Stuff?).

Thanks

Lizette

 
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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Pat Mihalec
No, I ordered 1.7 when I still could, just in case. I plan to upgrade to 
1.7, knowing that it will be out of support next year. Before the brakes 
were put on we had upgraded everything with plans to jump to 64 then 1.7. 
Since there are only two of us doing this I am going to stick with that 
plan.

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...so are you going to jump from z/OS 1.4 to 1.9 ?  Or 1.8? 
 
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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
 Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:17 PM
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 Subject: Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset
 
 
 On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:35:09 -0600, McKown, John
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 And none of these relate to the original post. The OP wanted 
 a automatic
 way to have a file wrap around after n writes. 
 
 snip
 
 I'm not so sure of that.  Re-read it.  To me is sounded like 
 the OP had this
 large file, but was only interested in the last n records.   
 Perhaps they
 will clarify.
 
 Mark

Yes, after rereading the OP, I can see that now. So, the simple way is
to put the data to a temporary file, then write another small program
which buffers the last n records in memory. When that program gets
EOF, then write the buffered records. Or use the tail command as so
many others have indicated.

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Re: PSF

2008-01-29 Thread Ron Wells
Thanks Ken

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Re: Timeout to server printer software after IP change

2008-01-29 Thread Hal Merritt
IIRC, a PING or TRACERT is answered by the NIC, not the target software. That 
is, the target server need not have an active operating system to reply. That 
does, however, tend to point away from network appliances getting in the way. 
Not conclusive, mind you, but enough for the moment. 

The next thing to consider is that Windows applications tend to be serial. So, 
a 'hanging' session might tie up the port on the target box. That would explain 
why a restart of the server breaks things loose. An interesting bit of 
information would be a NETSTAT of open sessions at point of failure. Then the 
question becomes which side is not terminating and cleaning up. Could be 
either. It's more fun to blame the PC's, but CA is in my top ten usual suspects 
:-)

Another possibility is that the server application is completely serial and you 
are attempting a second, concurrent transfer. Sorta like the hanging thread, 
but two (or max+1) active threads. We've seen that and had to do some 
scheduling dances to compensate. 

Ya just gotta love those PC's and those that serve them :-)

HTH and good luck. 

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Subject: Timeout to server printer software after IP change

Hello everyone...

We have been running for a week now after upgrading from z/OS 1.4 w/ CA TCPIP
to z/OS 1.7 running both IBM and CA stacks. Everything is going thru IBM
except for FTP and some telnet. About the only problem we have left is this
one:

Throughout the day and night when batch jobs run, the reports the jobs
produce are sent via TCPIP LPR (EPS) to a windows server running
HBOC/McKesson software called Laserarc. This is online report viewing
software. Things work fine for a while but sometime during the day or night
we stop being able to send reports to Laserarc. During the day not much is
sent - we might have a successful send at 09:00 and not try again until
15:00, which fails. When it fails after hours, none of the nightly reports
are available for users to view when they get to work.

The message our software puts out is:
T07OB058E OLPR1_J29562 unable to connect to remote host (48): Socket
T07OB058E+connection attempt timed out  

A ping or tracert indicates everything is ok.
traceroute to xxx.yy.3.147 (xxx.yy.3.147), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  xxx.yy.3.147 (xxx.yy.3.147)  3 ms    1 ms    1 ms  
 
CS V1R7: Pinging host xxx.yy.3.147  
Ping #1 response took 0.003 seconds.

(NETSTAT shows) 
EPS  0023794E xxx.yy.1.71..721   xxx.yy.3.147..515  SynSent

We continue to get timeouts until the server and/or server software is
restarted (not sure what gets restarted). We, the mainframe side, don't have
to do anything. When the server is restarted we start sending again.

The server people have contacted McKesson for Laserarc support but they
haven't got anywhere yet. We (MF people) are the ones who converted and
changed something and this problem started later in the night after
conversion.

Does anyone have any ideas of something we may not have set up right in TCPIP
or pointers of what to look for? We do a lot of networked printing and aren't
having this problem with anything else. Thanks for any help and sorry for the
length.

Robert Johnston
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IBM Cuts Employee Salaries

2008-01-29 Thread John Mattson
I work in California, and their state law has forced my company to 
move me, a sysprog, from salaried to hourly.  I hate it.  I am a 
workaholic, and suddenly HR is reporting me to management for working more 
hours than I am putting down on my time sheet.  Its insane.  I have gotten 
around it by getting them to agree that I can stay extra hours if I use 
the time for personal study to develop my work skills.  Honestly it is 
about a wash, but I would prefer getting the same paycheck every time just 
to make budgeting easier. 

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Re: Question on 64 bit

2008-01-29 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The current management plans to allow z/OS to die a natural death of old age

They may die of old age first.
I have been waiting for the 'death of the mainframe' for over 20 years.
Why do we upgrade every 6 months on a dying platform.
And, generate millions of lines of COBOL every year?

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Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Kirk Wolf
John,

Sorry, I read the original question to mean how can I truncate a
dataset to the last n lines.

In any case, I agree with your earlier post - if you really want it to
only *ever* keep the last n lines,
then an wrap-around RRDS is the way to go (if you can change the program).

Kirk

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Re: Keep only the tail of the dataset

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Zelden
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And none of these relate to the original post. The OP wanted a automatic
way to have a file wrap around after n writes. 

snip

I'm not so sure of that.  Re-read it.  To me is sounded like the OP had this
large file, but was only interested in the last n records.   Perhaps they
will clarify.

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Re: PSF

2008-01-29 Thread Ken Porowski
It is now Enhanced ACIF and is chargeable.
It should be an option under PSF.
5655-M32 PSF 4.1

Our charge was $400/month on a z990-302

From:

5655-M32 IBM Print Services Facility
IBM U.S. Sales Manual 
Revised:  October 25, 2005.

Enhancements to AFP Conversion and Indexing Facility (ACIF) 

ACIF is a utility that helps you prepare print files for transfer to
another print location or to an archival/retrieval system. With Enhanced
ACIF you can convert line data, unformatted ASCII files, or XML data
using instructions in a page definition into the AFP (MO:DCA-P) data
stream. Optionally, Enhanced ACIF can be used to package AFP resources
needed to print the jobs, and to index a document to separate a large
print file into individual documents to facilitate use with
archival/retrieval systems such as IBM Content Manager OnDemand. 

In PSF V4, ACIF is enhanced with additional indexing capabilities to
provide more flexibility in defining individual documents and page
groups within a file. Enhanced ACIF is ordered as a separate, optional
feature of PSF. Unlike PSF V3, the Enhanced ACIF feature in PSF V4 can
be ordered without having to pre-req the base PSF feature. 
  

-Original Message-
Ron Wells

Anyone aware of ACIF being a seperate cost item??? does not seem to come
with PSF4.1 ...
anyone know the prod. number it maybe listed under now..?

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