IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Hi all! As far as I'm aware of, these are the highlights. As you'll notice, there's nothing wrong with z9, but the z10 Series is more energy efficient with higher capacity and enhancements as you can read below. IBM recently announced the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class mainframe, the cornerstone of the New Enterprise Data Center. The z10 will magnify on demand and always-available capabilities, enabling rapid application deployment and quick return on investment for the client. z10 is 50 percent faster than z9, with 70 percent more capacity. The z10 offers three times the memory of the z9. z10 chip frequency is 2.6 times higher than z9. z10 is equivalent to nearly 1,500 x86 servers, requires 85 percent less space, consumes 85 percent less energy and provides 30 times the capacity. z10 can run 100 percent of utilization rate 100 percent of the time, based on demand. The z10 stack consists of much more than just a server. This stack is built around services, systems management, software and storage. It delivers a complete range of policy-driven functions to our clients including: Authorization Management to authenticate and authorize who can access specific business services and associated IT resources; Utilization Management to drive maximum use of the system. Unlike other classes of servers, z10 is designed to run at 100 percent of utilization 100 percent of the time, based on the varied demands of its users. Just-in-time capacity to deliver additional processing power and capacity when needed; and Virtualization Security to enable clients to allocate resources on demand without fear of security risks. Clients will find the linchpin of the New Enterprise Data Center is Tivoli’s Service Management portfolio, which includes Tivoli’s Service Management Center software. The Service Management Center (ITSMCz) automates the management of complex IT disciplines, including storage, databases and new software deployments. It also addresses business mandates such as reducing IT costs, managing IT operations and regulatory and compliance requirements. Visibility, control and automation are built into the ITSMCz. Visibility – Clients have a single, integrated view of their critical applications on their mainframe, showing the linkages between IT assets and business applications; Control – Clients can customize their view to support such functions as business services, services requests, finance, security, IT production, support and operational control; and Automation – Based on customer needs, ITSMCz combines process automation software such as IBM Tivoli’s Change and Configuration Management Database, Application Dependency Discovery Manager, Business Service Manager and Service Request Manager. IBM’s new version of its DS8000 disk solution, the DS8000 R3.1, has updated business continuity features that make the most of the new mainframe’s power. Clients can address up to four times more information in their mainframe environments with the DS8000 R3.1 than with any other storage system.Also for the System z10, the IBM System Storage TS7700 Virtual Tape solution delivers improved tape processing while supporting business continuity and security through innovative enhancements. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:28:36 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to find uncatalog datasets.
Folks, I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. Regards, Mani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
Mani, I use a JCL as below : //STEP01 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=2M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //INNDD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=zz,DISP=SHR //DSNOUT DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * DUMP INDDNAME(INNDD1) OUTDD(DSNOUT) - DATASET(INCLUDE(**) - EXCLUDE(SYS1.**) - BY((CATLG,EQ,NO))) - DELETE - PURGE IF MAXCC 8 THEN SET MAXCC = 0 HTH Varun Computer Sciences Corporation India Private Limited Registered Office: Electronics Complex, Software Technology Park, Indore, Madhya Pradesh, India Registered in India No: 10-11210 This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Sivakumar, Manikandan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/26/2008 04:00 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject How to find uncatalog datasets. Folks, I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. Regards, Mani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
any upgrade path for z9 currently? On 2/26/08, Timur Alpaslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! As far as I'm aware of, these are the highlights. As you'll notice, there's nothing wrong with z9, but the z10 Series is more energy efficient with higher capacity and enhancements as you can read below. IBM recently announced the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class mainframe, the cornerstone of the New Enterprise Data Center. The z10 will magnify on demand and always-available capabilities, enabling rapid application deployment and quick return on investment for the client. z10 is 50 percent faster than z9, with 70 percent more capacity. The z10 offers three times the memory of the z9. z10 chip frequency is 2.6 times higher than z9. z10 is equivalent to nearly 1,500 x86 servers, requires 85 percent less space, consumes 85 percent less energy and provides 30 times the capacity. z10 can run 100 percent of utilization rate 100 percent of the time, based on demand. The z10 stack consists of much more than just a server. This stack is built around services, systems management, software and storage. It delivers a complete range of policy-driven functions to our clients including: Authorization Management to authenticate and authorize who can access specific business services and associated IT resources; Utilization Management to drive maximum use of the system. Unlike other classes of servers, z10 is designed to run at 100 percent of utilization 100 percent of the time, based on the varied demands of its users. Just-in-time capacity to deliver additional processing power and capacity when needed; and Virtualization Security to enable clients to allocate resources on demand without fear of security risks. Clients will find the linchpin of the New Enterprise Data Center is Tivoli's Service Management portfolio, which includes Tivoli's Service Management Center software. The Service Management Center (ITSMCz) automates the management of complex IT disciplines, including storage, databases and new software deployments. It also addresses business mandates such as reducing IT costs, managing IT operations and regulatory and compliance requirements. Visibility, control and automation are built into the ITSMCz. Visibility – Clients have a single, integrated view of their critical applications on their mainframe, showing the linkages between IT assets and business applications; Control – Clients can customize their view to support such functions as business services, services requests, finance, security, IT production, support and operational control; and Automation – Based on customer needs, ITSMCz combines process automation software such as IBM Tivoli's Change and Configuration Management Database, Application Dependency Discovery Manager, Business Service Manager and Service Request Manager. IBM's new version of its DS8000 disk solution, the DS8000 R3.1, has updated business continuity features that make the most of the new mainframe's power. Clients can address up to four times more information in their mainframe environments with the DS8000 R3.1 than with any other storage system.Alsofor the System z10, the IBM System Storage TS7700 Virtual Tape solution delivers improved tape processing while supporting business continuity and security through innovative enhancements. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:28:36 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
No, not yet. Will be announced soon I believe. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:33:49 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU any upgrade path for z9 currently? On 2/26/08, Timur Alpaslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! As far as I'm aware of, these are the highlights. As you'll notice, there's nothing wrong with z9, but the z10 Series is more energy efficient with higher capacity and enhancements as you can read below. IBM recently announced the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class mainframe, the cornerstone of the New Enterprise Data Center. The z10 will magnify on demand and always-available capabilities, enabling rapid application deployment and quick return on investment for the client. z10 is 50 percent faster than z9, with 70 percent more capacity. The z10 offers three times the memory of the z9. z10 chip frequency is 2.6 times higher than z9. z10 is equivalent to nearly 1,500 x86 servers, requires 85 percent less space, consumes 85 percent less energy and provides 30 times the capacity. z10 can run 100 percent of utilization rate 100 percent of the time, based on demand. The z10 stack consists of much more than just a server. This stack is built around services, systems management, software and storage. It delivers a complete range of policy-driven functions to our clients including: Authorization Management to authenticate and authorize who can access specific business services and associated IT resources; Utilization Management to drive maximum use of the system. Unlike other classes of servers, z10 is designed to run at 100 percent of utilization 100 percent of the time, based on the varied demands of its users. Just-in-time capacity to deliver additional processing power and capacity when needed; and Virtualization Security to enable clients to allocate resources on demand without fear of security risks. Clients will find the linchpin of the New Enterprise Data Center is Tivoli's Service Management portfolio, which includes Tivoli's Service Management Center software. The Service Management Center (ITSMCz) automates the management of complex IT disciplines, including storage, databases and new software deployments. It also addresses business mandates such as reducing IT costs, managing IT operations and regulatory and compliance requirements. Visibility, control and automation are built into the ITSMCz. Visibility – Clients have a single, integrated view of their critical applications on their mainframe, showing the linkages between IT assets and business applications; Control – Clients can customize their view to support such functions as business services, services requests, finance, security, IT production, support and operational control; and Automation – Based on customer needs, ITSMCz combines process automation software such as IBM Tivoli's Change and Configuration Management Database, Application Dependency Discovery Manager, Business Service Manager and Service Request Manager. IBM's new version of its DS8000 disk solution, the DS8000 R3.1, has updated business continuity features that make the most of the new mainframe's power. Clients can address up to four times more information in their mainframe environments with the DS8000 R3.1 than with any other storage system.Alsofor the System z10, the IBM System Storage TS7700 Virtual Tape solution delivers improved tape processing while supporting business continuity and security through innovative enhancements. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:28:36 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL
Re: New version of TSSO under zOS v1.8
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:48:56 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:09:38 -0600, Marty French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I bump this since I'm having the same problem going from 1.7 to 1.9. We just have SUBSYSTEM consoles. What a pain. I don't see an answer to the questionhelp please. The question was answered. Check the CBT updates page. The main page is http://www.cbttape.org Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html I downloaded the new copy of TSSO under the 'updates' page on CBT. I'll look further and see what I missed. TSSO automates most messages, but, it won't answer console messages on the 'application' that we are running. I scanned the new TSSO libraires and I can't find any reference to 'IEE703I REPLY XX NOT REQUESTED FROM THIS CONSOLE' or any string. The new copy of TSSO fixed the assembler syntax errors. I have been fighting the console changes for two days now. Since the mainframe is going 'away' and so is my job, I have little or no desire to put much effort into improving my 'learning' curve. I am the only Systems Programmer left at our site and I thought it may be an easy fix. I am forced into the upgrade since 1.7 becomes unsupported in September. Thanks for the help. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:30:12 +0800, Sivakumar, Manikandan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. Regards, Mani I use ADRDSSU with a PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' and (CATLG EQ NO) and point it to the volumes in question. I'm sure everyone has a desired method though. Marty -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Hi Tommy. There is nothing wrong with z9. If you buy a car and manufacturer announces a new model, is there anything wrong with the old one ? There is upgrade path from any z990 and z9 EC to any z10 EC. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any upgrade path for z9 currently? On 2/26/08, Timur Alpaslan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! As far as I'm aware of, these are the highlights. As you'll notice, there's nothing wrong with z9, but the z10 Series is more energy efficient with higher capacity and enhancements as you can read below. IBM recently announced the IBM System z10 Enterprise Class mainframe, the cornerstone of the New Enterprise Data Center. The z10 will magnify on demand and always-available capabilities, enabling rapid application deployment and quick return on investment for the client. z10 is 50 percent faster than z9, with 70 percent more capacity. The z10 offers three times the memory of the z9. z10 chip frequency is 2.6 times higher than z9. z10 is equivalent to nearly 1,500 x86 servers, requires 85 percent less space, consumes 85 percent less energy and provides 30 times the capacity. z10 can run 100 percent of utilization rate 100 percent of the time, based on demand. The z10 stack consists of much more than just a server. This stack is built around services, systems management, software and storage. It delivers a complete range of policy-driven functions to our clients including: Authorization Management to authenticate and authorize who can access specific business services and associated IT resources; Utilization Management to drive maximum use of the system. Unlike other classes of servers, z10 is designed to run at 100 percent of utilization 100 percent of the time, based on the varied demands of its users. Just-in-time capacity to deliver additional processing power and capacity when needed; and Virtualization Security to enable clients to allocate resources on demand without fear of security risks. Clients will find the linchpin of the New Enterprise Data Center is Tivoli's Service Management portfolio, which includes Tivoli's Service Management Center software. The Service Management Center (ITSMCz) automates the management of complex IT disciplines, including storage, databases and new software deployments. It also addresses business mandates such as reducing IT costs, managing IT operations and regulatory and compliance requirements. Visibility, control and automation are built into the ITSMCz. Visibility – Clients have a single, integrated view of their critical applications on their mainframe, showing the linkages between IT assets and business applications; Control – Clients can customize their view to support such functions as business services, services requests, finance, security, IT production, support and operational control; and Automation – Based on customer needs, ITSMCz combines process automation software such as IBM Tivoli's Change and Configuration Management Database, Application Dependency Discovery Manager, Business Service Manager and Service Request Manager. IBM's new version of its DS8000 disk solution, the DS8000 R3.1, has updated business continuity features that make the most of the new mainframe's power. Clients can address up to four times more information in their mainframe environments with the DS8000 R3.1 than with any other storage system.Alsofor the System z10, the IBM System Storage TS7700 Virtual Tape solution delivers improved tape processing while supporting business continuity and security through innovative enhancements. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:28:36 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at
Re: Creating AWSTAPEs on MVS
Here is the job stream I use. The first step uses VTT2DISK which can be found in source on file 533 and a binary ready to run module in file 35. File # 035 LOAD MODULE file - Quick install of useful programs http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/updates/CBT035.zip http://www.cbttape.org/updates.htm http://www.cbttape.org File # 533 AWS Tape,FKT-Real Tape Conversion Utilities on MVS http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT533.zip http://www.cbttape.org/cbtdowns.htm http://www.cbttape.org //*- //* BUILD AWSTAPE USING VTT2DISK TURN OFF IDRC FOR HERCULES //*- //AWSWRIT EXEC PGM=VTT2DISK,REGION=6M,TIME=1439,PARM=IDRCOFF //AWSOUTDD DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // DSN=U06T03.AWSTAPE.VJOETAP.VTT2DISK.AWS, // UNIT=SYSALLDA, // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=27920), // SPACE=(CYL,(900,100),RLSE) //TAPIN DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SSTAP18,VOL=SER=JOETAP, // LABEL=(1,BLP,EXPDT=98000) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSFILES DD SYSOUT=* //*SYSTRACE DD SYSOUT=* //*SYSMOVED DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //* //*- //* BUILD AWSTAPE USING HETUTL TURN OFF IDRC FOR HERCULES //* TURN OFF COMPRESSION TO MAKE ZIPPING WORK GOOD ON PC //*- //HETUTL EXEC PGM=HETUTL,PARM=ABEND,REGION=6M,TIME=1439 //IDCB DD DISP=OLD,UNIT=SSTAP18,VOL=SER=JOETAP, // LABEL=(1,BLP,EXPDT=98000) //ODCB DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // DSN=U06T03.AWSTAPE.VJOETAP.HETUTL.AWS, // UNIT=SYSALLDA, // SPACE=(CYL,(900,100),RLSE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=121,BLKSIZE=121) //SYSINDD * CHUNK_SIZE 4096 COMPRESSION_METHOD 0 CLEAR_IDRC_INDICATOR YES /* //TAPEMAP EXEC PGM=TAPEMAP,REGION=6M,TIME=1439 //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRNT2 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUT1 DD DISP=OLD, //DSN=U06T03.MOUNT.TAPE.VJOETAP, // LABEL=(,BLP,EXPDT=98000), //UNIT=SSTAP18, //VOL=SER=JOETAP Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 If you can't afford to do something right, then be darn sure you can afford to do it wrong. Charlie Nelson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Creating AWSTAPEs on MVS âãé áï àáé wrote: Hi, We currently send physical 3480's to an external customer. The customer has asked if we could send them the tapes as AWStape files. They are evaluating a product called VTA (Virtual Tape Appliance) from a company called Universal Software. I've looked at CBT file 533, but I'm not sure which program to use. What program would i use to convert a physical 3480 to an AWSTape file that can be used by VTA. TIA Gadi - Based on my long friendship, I would guess that Sam Golob would be more than happy to help you. You can contact him via the CBT website. This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Tommy, I wouldn't call 3 years between the z9-109 announcement and the z10 fast. The z10 does a lot of things that weren't feasible (or necessarily recognized as needed by customers) in 2005. However, that doesn't mean that the z9 has problems. Intel announced the quad4 recently, but there was nothing wrong with the simple dual core chip. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK
It means that LLA is not simply managing data sets, as I thought I understood it to do. Rather, it must be managing data sets within linklist sets. Data sets are managed one by one. But directories are managed both one by one and for (every) entire LNKLST. This is where FREEZE and NOFREEZE come into play. Still, a long running job will continue to get the old copy of the module because it is using the old LNKLST. That is a major intent of LKNLST sets, for compatibility reasons. it sounds safer to define and activate a new LNKLST set when updating a LNKLST library than to perform a REFRESH or UPDATE It does depend on whether you need an old job to be able to access the new module. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why IBM announced the new CPU model so fast, it doesn't like a desktop computer ..I think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later...a market needs??? ..just curious...if you upgrade the mianframe currently I think you also have a question... On 2/26/08, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommy, I wouldn't call 3 years between the z9-109 announcement and the z10 fast. The z10 does a lot of things that weren't feasible (or necessarily recognized as needed by customers) in 2005. However, that doesn't mean that the z9 has problems. Intel announced the quad4 recently, but there was nothing wrong with the simple dual core chip. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 Hi all, Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast...is there any problem on z9 because our shop migrated toz9 this week any big differences between z9 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New version of TSSO under zOS v1.8
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:08:25 -0600, Marty French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:48:56 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:09:38 -0600, Marty French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I bump this since I'm having the same problem going from 1.7 to 1.9. We just have SUBSYSTEM consoles. What a pain. I don't see an answer to the questionhelp please. The question was answered. Check the CBT updates page. The main page is http://www.cbttape.org Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html I downloaded the new copy of TSSO under the 'updates' page on CBT. I'll look further and see what I missed. TSSO automates most messages, but, it won't answer console messages on the 'application' that we are running. I scanned the new TSSO libraires and I can't find any reference to 'IEE703I REPLY XX NOT REQUESTED FROM THIS CONSOLE' or any string. The new copy of TSSO fixed the assembler syntax errors. I have been fighting the console changes for two days now. Since the mainframe is going 'away' and so is my job, I have little or no desire to put much effort into improving my 'learning' curve. I am the only Systems Programmer left at our site and I thought it may be an easy fix. I am forced into the upgrade since 1.7 becomes unsupported in September. Thanks for the help. Regards J0031354 0201 ++REPLY 'GO' TO PROCEED;'RST' TO RETRY; 'END' TO CANCEL: J0031354 0010 (TSSO AOF): 42,GO J0031354 0210 R 42,GO J0031354 0010 @42 IGZI AWAITING REPLY UNKNOWN 0010 IEE703I REPLY 42 NOT REQUESTED FROM THIS CONSOLE The code was changed in REPLYLOA for consoles and the system doesn't know where the reply is coming from. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Tommy Tsui wrote: Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why IBM announced the new CPU model so fast, it doesn't like a desktop computer ..I think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later...a market needs??? ..just curious...if you upgrade the mianframe currently I think you also have a question... I think it is matter of development. Sometimes changes are minor - like new cards, even new features (STP) or turbo sub-generation (z/900 2xx). Sometimes is is new model, because the changes cannot be implemented in existing one. Is it too frequent for you ? Then stay with old machine. Why status of competition should influence frequency of changes ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Has IBM provided a link to the z10 POPs?
Has IBM provided a link to the z10 POPs? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Is it too frequent for you ? Then stay with old machine. Any bets on how long before another ALS ??? Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
All this why so fast speculation reminds me of my dearly departed mother. For my birthday she presents me with 2 gifts, a red shirt and a blue shirt. I try on the red shirt, and she asks, what's the matter, you don't like the blue shirt? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9 Tommy Tsui wrote: Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why IBM announced the new CPU model so fast, it doesn't like a desktop computer ..I think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later...a market needs??? ..just curious...if you upgrade the mianframe currently I think you also have a question... I think it is matter of development. Sometimes changes are minor - like new cards, even new features (STP) or turbo sub-generation (z/900 2xx). Sometimes is is new model, because the changes cannot be implemented in existing one. Is it too frequent for you ? Then stay with old machine. Why status of competition should influence frequency of changes ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:08:53 -0600, Dave Kopischke wrote: We have a JCL checker application that verifies dataset access for a JOB. Through routine use of this product, we end up with thousands of access warnings on our daily RACF reports. This is not a hacking attempt. If there were hacking attempts occuring, it would be tough to see them through the noise though. I wonder that you get thousands of access warnings ... daily. Are your programmers commiting so many potential access errors in the course of coding their JCL? How many programmers does it take to do that? Perhaps the programmers are coding Production JCL and then running it through the syntax checker before handing it over to Operations. That would account for the # of access warnings. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
from the announcement: quote Planned availability dates • Features and functions for the System z10 EC: February 26, 2008 • System z10 EC Models E12, E26, E40, E56, and E64: February 26, 2008 • z990 upgrades to System z10 EC: February 26, 2008 • z9 EC upgrades to System z10 EC: February 26, 2008 /quote Shane ... On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:13 +0100, Timur Alpaslan wrote: No, not yet. Will be announced soon I believe. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:33:49 +0800 any upgrade path for z9 currently? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
System z10 announcement (in English)
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias? infotype=ANsubtype=CAhtmlfid=897/ENUS108-154appname=USN -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
Thanks Varun. Is there any other utilities to determine this? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Varun Manocha Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to find uncatalog datasets. Mani, I use a JCL as below : //STEP01 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=2M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //INNDD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=zz,DISP=SHR //DSNOUT DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * DUMP INDDNAME(INNDD1) OUTDD(DSNOUT) - DATASET(INCLUDE(**) - EXCLUDE(SYS1.**) - BY((CATLG,EQ,NO))) - DELETE - PURGE IF MAXCC 8 THEN SET MAXCC = 0 HTH Varun Computer Sciences Corporation India Private Limited Registered Office: Electronics Complex, Software Technology Park, Indore, Madhya Pradesh, India Registered in India No: 10-11210 This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Sivakumar, Manikandan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/26/2008 04:00 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject How to find uncatalog datasets. Folks, I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. Regards, Mani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. HiperDispatch ... way overdue. 16 Gig HSA. anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:48:34 -0600, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder that you get thousands of access warnings ... daily. Are your programmers commiting so many potential access errors in the course of coding their JCL? How many programmers does it take to do that? In many shops the application programmers control and update production JCL related to their applications. However, the access control software (RACF, ACF2, TSS) does is (correctly) set up to not allow update to production data sets and in some cases not even read access (for example, payroll). The JCL check products can test this access when you scan your JCL. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.10 Preview
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss?DocURL=http://www-01.ibm.com/ common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS208-042/index.htmlInfoType=ANInfoSubType=C AInfoDesc=Announcement+Letterspanelurl=index.wss%3Fbuttonpressed%3DDET 003PT011%26hfdd%3D%26hfud%3D%26timestamp%3D As usual, watch out for the wrap! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:32:13 -0600, David Eisenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course (as I indicated in my original post), I need to be able to do this without producing a RACF violation if the user is not authorized to read the resource. What you haven't said, though, is why you need to avoid a violation message. If the user has given you a data set name and asked you to operate on it, and he does not have the proper authority, then it is most appropriate to have the violation occur. And it's most appropriate to get that violation by simply acceding to the user's request and trying to operate upon the data set as he requested. If the user has not asked you to operate on the data set, why are you doing so? Perhaps it would help if you explained your application's purpose. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
The Datafinder component of Spacefinder Workbench from TeraCloud also has this capability. From: Sivakumar, Manikandan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 2/26/2008 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to find uncatalog datasets. Thanks Varun. Is there any other utilities to determine this? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2 vs RACF
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:02:25 -0800, James Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOGON/JOB INITIATION - SUBMITTER IS NOT AUTHORIZED BY USER That message might mean that the sending system did not, in fact, send the password along, and so RACF on the receiving system saw this as a case of someone requesting SURROGAT authority. Or it may simply indicate that you don't have the NODES profiles setup properly on the receiving system to translate the submitting identity into a local ID. The submitter is important for both SURROGAT checking (if needede), propagation (if the JOB statement does not have a user ID), and for JESJOBS checking. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.10 Preview
What wrap. Try using www.TinyURL.com and your URL will be shorted and they never get deleted. Best of all it's free. The following URL: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss?DocURL=http://www -01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS208-042/index.htmla mp;InfoType=ANInfoSubType=CAInfoDesc=Announcement+ Letterspanelurl=index.wss%3Fbuttonpressed%3DDET003PT011 %26hfdd%3D%26hfud%3D%26timestamp%3D has a length of 259 characters and resulted in the following TinyURL which has a length of 25 characters: http://tinyurl.com/2vavl8 KEn Mazer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS 1.10 Preview http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss?DocURL=http://www-01.ibm.com/ common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS208-042/index.htmlInfoType=ANInfoSubType=C AInfoDesc=Announcement+Letterspanelurl=index.wss%3Fbuttonpressed%3DDET 003PT011%26hfdd%3D%26hfud%3D%26timestamp%3D As usual, watch out for the wrap! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:08:53 -0600, Dave Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:07:24 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: One could argue that letting you determine your access to resources without actually trying to use them (and thus without causing audit records) is a form of hacking. You're looking around trying to figure out what you can do, rather than simply doing your job. We have a JCL checker application that verifies dataset access for a JOB. Through routine use of this product, we end up with thousands of access warnings on our daily RACF reports. This is not a hacking attempt. If there were hacking attempts occuring, it would be tough to see them through the noise though. I'm going to try to see if I can have this product changed to use a non-logged access check. That makes sense. Perhaps what you need, though, is a method allowing your application developers to run the JCL checking procedure against the proper user ID. You could let them put the JCL into a library with a known name, for example, and then have them run a program that either: (a) issued a command to run an STC to do the check, with the STC running under a more appropriate user ID; or (b) switched identity to the proper production ID and then submitted the JCL Check job. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. HiperDispatch ... way overdue. 16 Gig HSA. anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Curiously missing today is a new z/VM announcement or preview. But there is some interesting foreshadowing for what could be z/VM v6.2 with the Statement of General Direction section regarding the to-be-announced z/VM LPAR mode... it looks like HiperDispatch and z/VM vN.R may become rather cozy. I'm surprised by the only 1 Meg. Big page delivery, too. Many competitive OS's support larger 'big page' sizes... even AIX allows for much bigger pages, doesn't it? (ISTR 16MB) -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
z10 quad-core 4.4Ghz..how fast compared with z9 ...? A new 16GB reserved for HSA ..is it necessary??? to avoid outages..is it means more available for dynamic activate IOCDS... On 2/26/08, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from the announcement: quote Planned availability dates • Features and functions for the System z10 EC: February 26, 2008 • System z10 EC Models E12, E26, E40, E56, and E64: February 26, 2008 • z990 upgrades to System z10 EC: February 26, 2008 • z9 EC upgrades to System z10 EC: February 26, 2008 /quote Shane ... On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 12:13 +0100, Timur Alpaslan wrote: No, not yet. Will be announced soon I believe. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:33:49 +0800 any upgrade path for z9 currently? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
If you have CA-DISK: //DMS EXEC DMS SCAN REALVOLS SELECT SGNAME=/,CRIT=(CATSTAT,NE,OK) *not-cataloged and incorrectly cataloged datasets.* REPORT MVD Kees. Sivakumar, Manikandan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Thanks Varun. Is there any other utilities to determine this? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Varun Manocha Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 4:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to find uncatalog datasets. Mani, I use a JCL as below : //STEP01 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN', // REGION=2M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //INNDD1 DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=zz,DISP=SHR //DSNOUT DD DUMMY //SYSINDD * DUMP INDDNAME(INNDD1) OUTDD(DSNOUT) - DATASET(INCLUDE(**) - EXCLUDE(SYS1.**) - BY((CATLG,EQ,NO))) - DELETE - PURGE IF MAXCC 8 THEN SET MAXCC = 0 HTH Varun Computer Sciences Corporation India Private Limited Registered Office: Electronics Complex, Software Technology Park, Indore, Madhya Pradesh, India Registered in India No: 10-11210 This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Sivakumar, Manikandan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/26/2008 04:00 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject How to find uncatalog datasets. Folks, I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. Regards, Mani -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. HiperDispatch ... way overdue. 16 Gig HSA. anything else of interest ??? ... :0) There is no ETR feature listed.. so I presume this is STP only.. Roy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
There are also newer JCL checkers on the market that allow remote checking of JCL on production from the users on the test side. Similar to the description outlined by Walt Farrell. Brian Walt Farrell wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:08:53 -0600, Dave Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:07:24 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: One could argue that letting you determine your access to resources without actually trying to use them (and thus without causing audit records) is a form of hacking. You're looking around trying to figure out what you can do, rather than simply doing your job. We have a JCL checker application that verifies dataset access for a JOB. Through routine use of this product, we end up with thousands of access warnings on our daily RACF reports. This is not a hacking attempt. If there were hacking attempts occuring, it would be tough to see them through the noise though. I'm going to try to see if I can have this product changed to use a non-logged access check. That makes sense. Perhaps what you need, though, is a method allowing your application developers to run the JCL checking procedure against the proper user ID. You could let them put the JCL into a library with a known name, for example, and then have them run a program that either: (a) issued a command to run an STC to do the check, with the STC running under a more appropriate user ID; or (b) switched identity to the proper production ID and then submitted the JCL Check job. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.10 announcement -DASD size
From the web page that I previously posted about z/OS 1.10 quote Architectural limit of hundreds of TB for DASD volumes, up from the current limit of approximately 54 GB per volume. Called Extended Address Volume (EAV), this function is planned to initially support 223 GB per volume on z/OS V1.10 and IBM System Storage DS8000, when available. ... Exploiting the capabilities of a new 3390 device model on IBM System Storage DS8000 storage subsystems, EAV is designed to provide: A new architectural limit of hundreds of TB per volume, up from the current limit of approximately 54 GB per volume (65,520 cylinders). z/OS V1.10 will support a maximum volume size of 223 GB (262,668 cylinders per volume). Fully compatible access to data residing on cylinders below 65,520. Also, the existing 3390 device geometry (the track length and number of tracks per cylinder) is maintained on EAV. In z/OS V1.10, support is planned for SMS and non-SMS managed VSAM data sets (ESDS, KSDS, RRDS, and LDS) at any location on an extended address volume. Non-VSAM data sets, catalogs, page data sets, and VSAM data sets with the KEYRANGE or IMBED attribute are restricted to the first 65,520 cylinders. With this initial support, space after the first 65,520 cylinders is intended to provide constraint relief for applications using large VSAM data sets, such as those used by DB2, CICS(r), zFS file systems, SMP/E CSI data sets, and NFS mounted data sets. A new dynamic volume expansion function designed to eliminate the need to copy volumes to increase their size. This new function is expected to provide substantial, immediate constraint relief for installations with a large number of large VSAM data sets. This is also expected to help improve storage management administration over time, as a relatively small number of large volumes are thought to be simpler to manage than a larger number of smaller ones. IBM recommends the IBM HyperPAV licensed function on the IBM System Storage DS8000 series be leveraged to help manage the number of paths to devices defined as EAV. In the future, IBM intends to expand support for EAV with larger volume sizes and support for additional data set types and access methods. For more information, refer to the Statement of direction section /quote http://tinyurl.com/33l8em Man, oh man! We'll finally have parity with the other systems for truly huge volume sizes. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
No, ETR comes by default in z10. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Roy Hewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. HiperDispatch ... way overdue. 16 Gig HSA. anything else of interest ??? ... :0) There is no ETR feature listed.. so I presume this is STP only.. Roy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
16 GB HSA - all 60 LPARs, all 4 CSSs, all devices are there, just use them. I think it is great. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: z10 quad-core 4.4Ghz..how fast compared with z9 ...? A new 16GB reserved for HSA ..is it necessary??? to avoid outages..is it means more available for dynamic activate IOCDS... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/26/2008 at 04:28 PM, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anyone know why IBM announced z10 so fast Before asking why, ask whether. Why do you believe that they should have waited? I don't see the pace of announcements as being unusually rapid. is there any problem on z9 None relevant to the z10. because our shop migrated toz9 this week Your z9 will continue working. You don't need to upgrade unless you need the new bells and whistles or you need more capacity. any big differences between z9 The usual: new instructions, better environmentals, better performance. In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/26/2008 at 09:07 PM, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: why IBM announced the new CPU model so fast, It didn't. IBM took its own sweet time on the z10. it doesn't like a desktop computer Intel and AMD also have frequent announcements. As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later You mean like the 370/158 and the 370/168? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2008 at 12:13 PM, IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OTOH, I can readily imagine a utility that attempts an access but on failure proceeds with restricted function. As an example for Shmuel, see message GIM69158I, or perhaps IEB1099I. I was thinking of a case where it checks authorization before it knows that the access will be required, as part of its initialization. In the situation you describe I would wasn't RACF to log the violation, assuming that I didn't misunderstand you. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
In ![EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2008 at 07:10 PM, Reza Fatemi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You may be thinking of ISPF 3.4 and data set name hiding or may be thinking of ISPF 3.4 checking for ALTER access to the catalog. The latter sounds familiar; it was in a thread about violation messages for resources that the user wasn't actually trying to use. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 11:06 AM, IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: o What use is SYSPRINT in an IKJEFT01 step? Perhaps not needed in this case, but in general it saves having to allocate and free SYSPRINT every time you want to run a utility. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 09:41 AM, Betsy Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Therefore, sftp does not (and should not if it is to remain open source) recognize MVS data set structures. There is nothing in GPL2 and similar licenses that prohibits system-dependent code. In fact, a lot of the open source programs include such code. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/23/2008 at 07:25 PM, Kirk Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IBM's port of ssh has code that detects an OMVS environment and explicitly prohibits execution. Ouch! Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 256 bytes again
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 07:32 AM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: he guy who precipitated all this extra discussion was trying to get the thread oriented to remembering that the key length must be considered when determining how many blocks will fit on the track. That's part of it. There's also code that reads the directory and examines the key; the buffer length for such code must be 264 rather than 256. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACBUSER
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 03:31 PM, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Isn't that a VTAM field? The ACB has a high degree of commonality across access methods. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 256 bytes again
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 08:51 AM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No. First - when you calculate number of blocks, you have to take into consideration many physical aspects of data storing, like Count field, gaps, data cell size, data cell existence, track size, R0, etc Only if you're doing it yourself instead of using the IBM provided services, which take those into account for you. I don't know TRKALC, Indeed. but I can imagine, that program assuming there is no Key I can imagine the sun turning into a banana. However it doesn't change the fact Repeating an assertion doesn't make it a fact. Contrary to VTOC the Key in directory contains redundant, index information only BSAM doesn't distinguish between redundant and non-redundant keys. If the key doesn't count for a directory then it doesn't count for a VTOC. Saying directory block is 254 bytes is plain incorrect, because it's not. The byte, you mention is part of the content. As is the key. According to documentation, you can read directory sequentially by providing LRECL=256. Again - 256. What do you specify to read a VTOC? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 256 bytes again
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2008 at 09:37 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The documentation is correct. No. One could add Count and Key to the size, but *he shouldn't*. It's not what you don't know that hurts you, it's not what you know that isn't so. Failure to take the key into account when it's relevant will lead to other failures. The code IBM provides already takes the count area into account, so you only need to include it when you're doing thing like Read CKD. The key length, however, affects lots of other things. However common definition is that we provide size of the block by providing length of Data in CKD. No, it's just that the common context is keylen=0. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/26/2008 at 06:30 PM, Sivakumar, Manikandan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. FDREPORT if you're licensed for it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
Been discussed many times. Search the archives! If you don't have DFSMSdss or other purchased software that will do it, you can use the VTOC command from CBT file 112: http://www.cbttape.org //TMP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=2M //STEPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=vtoc.LOADLIB //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //VTOCOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * VTOC WORK CAT LIMIT(CAT NE C) /* //*VTOC ALL CAT LIMIT(CAT NE C) /* all online volumes */ //*VTOC VOLSER_MASK CAT LIMIT(CAT NE C) -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote: anything else of interest ??? ... :0) AutoIPL! (At last!) AutoIPL support will provide the capability to request that the system automatically IPL stand-alone dump, z/OS, or both, when a disabled wait state is requested by a system component. This function is designed to be under the control of new parmlib parameters and a new Wait State Action Table (WSAT); together, they specify the actions, if any, to be taken for various disabled wait states. In a sysplex environment, the Sysplex Failure Manager (SFM) policy can result in actions that load disabled wait states on systems to be partitioned out of the sysplex, which can also trigger AutoIPL processing. New options on the VARY XCF operator command will allow you to request a SADMP, z/OS IPL, or both, after the indicated system has been removed from the sysplex. AutoIPL capability is intended to help you achieve faster failure data capture and recovery after system failures. -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
...and the QUERY SECURITY command invokes a RACROUTE to perform this function. So CICS is documenting use of preemptive RACROUTE requests as reasonable design in presenting usable options on a user's menu. --unsnip--- IIRC, under this particular set of circumstances, RACROUTE will do the equivalent of a FRACHECK, which does no logging. Has to do with the resource definitions for CICS transactions. No FRACHECK is performed in this case according to the doc. CICS performs a RACROUTE REQUEST=FASTAUTH for QUERY SECURITY with RESTYPE and a RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH for QUERY SECURITY with RESCLASS. This is stated in the CICS/TS RACF Security Guide. Randy Evans, Viaserv, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Portmap start task
Tim, We run HSC/Libstation for an EMC product called Alphastore and have not experienced any problems. We run our Port mapper at SC SYSSTC. Also while moving the Libstation to its own LPAR we discovered HSC needs the port mapper. One more thing about HSC 6.0. It does not support all the TCPIP.DATA keyword in z/OS 1.7 such as using SEARCH to replace DOMAINORIGIN. Regards, Listen. Think. Solve. Steve Wolf Rockwell Automation 414-382-4308 Leitner, Timothy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/25/2008 01:42 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Portmap start task All, Has anybody run into an issue with the portmap started task running in a default service class rather than sysstc like tcpip? We use STK (SUN) HSC and libstation and have had some odd things happening with our Veritas system. We have found that there will be a number (20-30) connections in TCPIP left for long periods of time all pointing back to the Veritas environment. We can drop the connections and things will clear up. Any ideas? Thanks. Tim Leitner OSF Healthcare System Manager, Technical Services 309-683-7452 == The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this message by anyone other than the addressee is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient, or an agent of the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately and permanently delete the original e-mail, attachment(s), and any copies. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?
I'll take Pat's comments one step further. I am supposed to be having a telephone discussion with a couple folks from IBM regarding this issue (including the person who is responsible for Omegamon documentation) on Thursday. If you have specific issues that you would like me to forward to them, let me know - probably off-list so as not to clutter the list up. Send them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA? On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:00:14 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... On the good side, there are Omegamon project managers attending SHARE that are aware of this thread and are interested in getting specific information. Any significant results coming from their interest will be a long time coming, but I suggest you get in touch with your (mythical?) local IBM rep to see if your complaints can get known. ... OK. That was a pretty useless post. Here's something better (I hope). The Omegafolks say this thread has generated a lot of email within IBM. It is definitely being watched. Post details about you problems here or (if you think it would be cluttering up the forum) say you will provide details off-list. Either way, you will be contacted off list. BTW, they know that marketing responses are not going to be helpful. It sounds like they are serious about this. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
Marian wrote 16 GB HSA - all 60 LPARs, all 4 CSSs, all devices are there, just use them. I think it is great. I agree... When the PR/SM architect told me about it a few months ago he said it was to simplify sizing by ensuring ALL configs were already contained within the 16GB. And he mentioned it in the context of my wanting RMF to report HSA size. Now there's no need. Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
Well, according to the announcement today, a 2097 is a z10 EC. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Filemaster LASTREC
Hi Listers, anyone help with this. For our sins we are blessed with CA-Filemaster and one of our offshore guys recently found a new way to screw up based on a command called LASTREC. this is what happened: He wanted to edit a trailr record and went into Filemaster to do so. For reasons as yet unknow decided that the way to do this was to enter LASTREC on the command line, this had the effect of indeed displaying the last record. He duly edited said record and saved fine. Unfortunately he did not spot that the record is now shifted 4 bytes to the left. This I speculated was because the file is VB and for some reason the first 4 bytes of the trailer where taken as the RDW: here is the actual record: +1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+0- 999Z7057050222628 here is the record display by Filemaster after the LASTREC command: +1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+0- 705705022262800999 1080225056002999999 108022505600099999 as you can see the record is shifted 4 bytes to the left and filemaster is displaying what it believes is part of the record(from col 22 on) as the length it now thinks it is is the max for the file ie 2k+ (by virtue of in what it thinks is the RDW). Needless to say, doing the change and saving the record caused problems. We now understand what is going on so fine, what we have no idea about is what is the LASTREC command actually doing? There is no mention of it in any of the manuals etc. can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks Gerry Generally, this communication is for informational purposes only and it is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. In the event you are receiving the offering materials attached below related to your interest in hedge funds or private equity, this communication may be intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of such fund(s). All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to UK legal entities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tommy Tsui) writes: Actually, I worry becuase there are no competitors in the market, why IBM announced the new CPU model so fast, it doesn't like a desktop computer ..I think z9 is announced around 3 years...As I remember, IBM never try to announced a new model of mainframe computer just three years later...a market needs??? ..just curious...if you upgrade the mianframe currently I think you also have a question... lots of industries were on 7-8 yr development cycle ... but they had two parallel efforts offset by 3-4 yrs ... so there was new announcements every 3-4yrs. in the 70s, the company had a problem because they had so focused on moving everything off 360/370 and on to future system replacement ... old post with somebody quoting from Fergus Morris book http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001f.html#33 lots of other posts mentioning future system effort http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#futuresys as a result the 370 product pipeline was allowed to run dry. then when future system project was killed ... there was mad rush to get things back into the 370 product pipeline. the 303x was rush stopgap ... while they tried to ramp up for xa. the integrated channel microcode from the 370/158 engine was moved into a dedicated separate box and relabled channel director. then a 370/158 was repackaged with just the 370 microcode and relabled a 3031 ... with a 2nd dedicated 158 microcode engine running the channel director microcode. the 370/168 was repackaged to work with channel director and relabled 3032. the 3033 started out with 370/168 wiring logic remapped to faster chip technology ... which would have nominally resulted in machine approx. 20percent faster than 168. however, the new chip technology also had ten times the circuits per chip. there was some very targeted thruput redesign to better do things within the same chip ... which eventually resulted in 3033 shipping at 50percent faster than 168 (rather than just 20percent faster). in parallel with 303x effort, there was all the stuff for 370-xa. first was the new architecture that was referred to as 811 for the nov78 date on the documents ... eventually leading to 3081, mvs/xa, etc. after the 303x got out ... that team started on 3090 ... overlapped with 3081 work. circa 1990, the american automobile industry had C4 taskforce to look at revamping their 7-8 yr product cycles (also doing two parallel efforts offset by 3-4 yrs ... even tho new models were introduced every yr ... they were mostly superficial changes between actual new product releases). The C4 effort was that foreign competition had first reduced new product development cycle to 3-4 yrs (total elapsed) and were heading for 12-18 months for total elapsed time for new product ... from drawing board to rolling off the line. A major part of the C4 was to heavily leverage information technology to totally redo how product development cycle happened. Part of the issue between having a 7-8yr elapsed product development cycle vis-a-vis a 1-3yr elapsed product development cycle ... was the significant increase in agility to adopt to changing consumer preferences and/or new technologies. several information technology vendors were invited to participate in C4 ... including both the company's mainframe as well as workstation divisions. there were some behind the scenes comments from the workstation division that they were already on a 1-3yr product development cycle ... while the mainframe group was on their own 7-8yr product development cycle (ironic that the mainframe group were being included in an effort to provide advice on how to move from a 7-8yr product development cycle to a significantly more agile product development cycle). Since then the mainframe group has significantly reorganized and revitalized themselves. some recent posts mentioning the C4 activity: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#84 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008.html#85 Toyota Sales for 2007 May Surpass GM http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#22 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#68 Toyota Beats GM in Global Production -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 2097?
Yes, and so somebody who did not trust D M=CPU can trust it again... On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:37 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, according to the announcement today, a 2097 is a z10 EC. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SPAM: Re: 256 bytes again
-sniip he guy who precipitated all this extra discussion was trying to get the thread oriented to remembering that the key length must be considered when determining how many blocks will fit on the track. That's part of it. There's also code that reads the directory and examines the key; the buffer length for such code must be 264 rather than 256. --unsnip--- BLDL/FIND use a channel programm that still requires a key as well. The basic search (IIRC) is: CCW Search-Key-High-Or-Equal CCW Transfer-in-Channel *-8 CCW Read-Data Other CCWs in the program are device-dependant, and AFAIK 3390 SLEDs are still supported. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:02:51 -0600, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --snip- Thanks Varun. Is there any other utilities to determine this? --unsnip--- If you have FDR, FDREPORT can give you lists of uncataloged datasets. FDREPORT is not part of FDR. It is included with FDRABR or can be licensed separately. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
--snip- Thanks Varun. Is there any other utilities to determine this? --unsnip--- If you have FDR, FDREPORT can give you lists of uncataloged datasets. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM System z10 Enterprise Class announcement web sites
Hi, It's no longer a rumor. Here's some web sites for your reading pleasure IBM System z10 announcement web site: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/news/announcement/20080226_annc.html US Announcement Letter: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ansubtype=caappname=GPAhtmlfid=897/ENUS108-154 Some z/VM Materials have been updated, as well. http://www.vm.ibm.com/siteinfo/change.html Including the z/VM V5.3 General Information manual. http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/hcsf8b22.pdf IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/index.html Remember to tune in to the web casts, or attend one of the z10 roadshows... And if you happen to be at SHARE, be sure to go to the IBM booth and check out the new z10. Enjoy! Regards, Pam C -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 1.9 vs 1.7Console
Gather Master console...concept is gone.. Applications/systems that uses consoles MUST use names assigned...Not by the old ID number... Been changing---altering for sometime...BUT when we came up on 1.9 we havd a named console in CICS--as example--saying it was not found?? -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. ... anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Hmm... is it interesting that it doesn't do Windows Server (yet)? -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. ... anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Hmm... is it interesting that it doesn't do Windows Server (yet)? -- Tom Schmidt [shudder] From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
McKown, John wrote: snip [shudder] From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology Any sane person wouldn't, but by definition that excludes PHB's. :-) -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise to the occasion. We cannot escape history. We will be remembered in spite of ourselves. The fiery trial through which we pass will light us down in honor or dishonor, to the last generation. Abraham Lincoln -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) McKown, John wrote: snip [shudder] From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology Any sane person wouldn't, but by definition that excludes PHB's. :-) -- Mark Jacobs Perhaps so! [grin} Our new head of Open Systems is said to be an AIX bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a start. I've also heard that he would prefer that the main AIX sysadmins be the z/OS people (us'ns) and not the current MCSEs. But that's just rumor. Supposedly he likes our parannoid attitude about doing things that might result in an outage. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
HCSA - because 510T of shared storage is not enough. :-) -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM announced z10 ..why so fast...any problem on z 9
A new 16GB reserved for HSA ..is it necessary??? to avoid outages..is it means more available for dynamic activate IOCDS... Also, it means you no longer tie up part of your investment in memory with that needed for HSA. So, if you buy 64GB (for example), you have 64GB available for your LPARs. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: System z10 announcement (in English)
By the same reason You have to install a new version of Windows on Your new, powerfull PC: - To obliterate any progress in hardware performance ! Thomas _ Thomas Berg Specialist IT Utveckling Swedbank AB (Publ) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För McKown, John Skickat: den 26 februari 2008 18:37 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. ... anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Hmm... is it interesting that it doesn't do Windows Server (yet)? -- Tom Schmidt [shudder] From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
John, Sounds like things are looking up for you! snip Perhaps so! [grin} Our new head of Open Systems is said to be an AIX bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a start. I've also heard that he would prefer that the main AIX sysadmins be the z/OS people (us'ns) and not the current MCSEs. But that's just rumor. Supposedly he likes our parannoid attitude about doing things that might result in an outage. /snip -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU time differences for the same job
This has been a question which dates back to the times of old. Back in the late 60's early 70's when I was running MFT and MVT, it was the question most on people's minds. Back in those days, it was because when an I/O interrupt occurred some of the time of processing that interrupt (no matter which JOB, STC, or TSO user it was for) got charged to the program which was using the CPU at that very moment of the interrupt. I think some of that most definitely has been cleaned up since those ancient days. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 512-977-2615 direct 210-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miklos Szigetvari Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CPU time differences for the same job Hi I got this question time to time: What is the maximum CPU time difference for the same job, between repeated runs, under different system load ? -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?
Stephen Hall wrote: Doug, It's in the XE component, which means you have to access it via the TEP (Tivoli Enterprise Portal GUI). It hangs off the MVS Operating System window, and is called z/OS Unix System Services Window. However, it is a basic overview only. HTH, Stephen Hall IAG Infrastructure Melbourne Australia It's true that the base TEP USS workspace has the word overview in it. However, as with all OMEGAMON TEP workspaces, you have to right click to see what else is available. In the USS case, there are hundreds of metrics externalized to the out of the box workspaces. There are nine additional workspaces that I would like to have shown with an attachment but this list server doesn't allow that so Then of course, there are all the out of the box situations and queries pertaining to USS, another few dozen or so. It's a very comprehensive USS monitor and as someone mentioned, it's included with the OMEGAMON XE for z/OS product. -- Andrew McIntyre - Consulting IT Specialist IBM System z™ Software Technical Sales SMPO (Software Migration Project Office) TMT (Tivoli Migration Team) 404-487-2477 or tie 546-2477 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SMPO http://www.ibm.com/software/solutions/softwaremigration NetView for z/OS http://www.ibm.com/tivoli/products/netview-zos/resources/nv390-update.html System Automation for z/OS http://www.s390.ibm.com/sa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?
Andrew McIntyre wrote: snip It's true that the base TEP USS workspace has the word overview in it. However, as with all OMEGAMON TEP workspaces, you have to right click to see what else is available. In the USS case, there are hundreds of metrics externalized to the out of the box workspaces. There are nine additional workspaces that I would like to have shown with an attachment but this list server doesn't allow that so Then of course, there are all the out of the box situations and queries pertaining to USS, another few dozen or so. It's a very comprehensive USS monitor and as someone mentioned, it's included with the OMEGAMON XE for z/OS product. ICKY. So I have to put in the XE piece and access the TEMS to look at anything. The setup for that has pretty bad and confusing documentation, and is an unwieldy implementation. Besides, I was told by Omegamon support that there was nothing in the GUI that I couldn't get to in the VTAM classic sessions, it would just look better and could be analyzed using Excel and the like. Did it occur to anyone in Omegamon support that I might like to look at the TSO/VTAM CUA type display? I GUESS NOT Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
A new virtual storage area, the High Common Storage Area (HCSA), is defined. Did they really call it that? Or, did they mean to say, High Common *Service* Area? Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:53:36 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU HCSA - because 510T of shared storage is not enough. :-) -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html _ Do more with your photos with Windows Live Photo Gallery. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_photos_022008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?
Doug Fuerst wrote: ICKY. So I have to put in the XE piece and access the TEMS to look at anything. The setup for that has pretty bad and confusing documentation, and is an unwieldy implementation. Besides, I was told by Omegamon support that there was nothing in the GUI that I couldn't get to in the VTAM classic sessions, it would just look better and could be analyzed using Excel and the like. Did it occur to anyone in Omegamon support that I might like to look at the TSO/VTAM CUA type display? I GUESS NOT Doug I certainly don't want to step into a messy thread here (why do I feel that it's to late?) but here goes The XE levels of the V41 OMEGAMONs are where all the power of the products are. They allow you to use the Tivoli Enterprise Portal (TEP) and it's single pane of glass architecture to combine distributed monitoring and System z OMEGAMONs all on one GUI. The overall technology is called IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short). Once you are comfortable with the attributes (metrics), workspaces, situations and queries of one product, you can jump over to any other product without any problems. As far as VTAM monitoring, the OMEGAMON XE for Mainframe Networks includes the MFN II (CUA) 3270 based product, which still provides VTAM monitoring. However, there are a lot more features available if you implement the XE agent and the TEP. For instance, FTP session monitoring and VTAM EE and HPR connection. Here's the latest ITM doc, which has some excellent manuals in it. Especially the installation manual: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v15r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itm.doc/understand.htm -- Andrew McIntyre - Consulting IT Specialist IBM System z™ Software Technical Sales SMPO (Software Migration Project Office) TMT (Tivoli Migration Team) 404-487-2477 or tie 546-2477 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SMPO http://www.ibm.com/software/solutions/softwaremigration NetView for z/OS http://www.ibm.com/tivoli/products/netview-zos/resources/nv390-update.html System Automation for z/OS http://www.s390.ibm.com/sa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:02 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. ... anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Hmm... is it interesting that it doesn't do Windows Server (yet)? -- Tom Schmidt [shudder] From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware? Funny you should ask. Maybe because many of the Windows (Server) outages had to do with non-parity memory? Or because of the memory protection schemes used (or not) on other hardware? Or because it blends in nicely with that whole green stripe thing on the front of the z10 box??? (I don't see IBM devouring its own children with the z10 announcement - AIX and pSeries boxen seem safe to buy (for now); I see the z10 attempting to make advances on the HP and Sun boxen. Solaris can be run on the z9 but I'm not at all sure there's anything worth keeping in HP-xX, is there?) -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
Good ideas on both counts. AIX is good stuff, and so is pSeries. Jon snip Our new head of Open Systems is said to be an AIX bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a start. I've also heard that he would prefer that the main AIX sysadmins be the z/OS people (us'ns) and not the current MCSEs. snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:00:33 -0600, Staller, Allan wrote: John, Sounds like things are looking up for you! It seems as if the longevity of the managers at John's shop is about 12-18 months (about the life of a typical CIO). Give this guy some time and he'll be out of there, too. Right, John? -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:25:13 -0500, J R wrote: A new virtual storage area, the High Common Storage Area (HCSA), is defined. Did they really call it that? Or, did they mean to say, High Common *Service* Area? Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:53:36 -0600 From: mark.zelden HCSA - because 510T of shared storage is not enough. :-) Yeahbut... what happened to 'Grande' in the naming scheme? -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) Good ideas on both counts. AIX is good stuff, and so is pSeries. Jon Good to hear. I know nothing about either. My UNIX background is 100% Linux on my machines at home. Oh, and z/OS UNIX. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CPU time differences for the same job
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. recent posts mentioning doing dispatching in the 60s for improving both uniprocessor as well as multiprocessor cache hit ratios (including a form of low-overhead cache affinity dispatching) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#78 CPU time differences for the same job http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#92 CPU time differences for the same job http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#81 Random thoughts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#1 What happened to resumable instructions? last Friday with early mention of hiperdispatch http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#91 z10 presentation on 26 Feb there was some question of moving more of the multiprocessing dispatching function into the microcode ... or making it more sensitive to cache hit efficiencies ... or just fastpath software. i had done fastpath dispatch software as undergraduate in the 60s for cp67 (40yrs since it was announced at the spring 68 share meeting in houston). in the mid-70s ... doing work on 5-way multiprocessor product (which got canceled before shipping) ... misc past posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#bounce ... i was able to move lots of stuff in microcode ... defining queued interface for path i/o operation as well as for dispatching (software and microcode interacting with common queue). the i/o stuff provided some of the function of 370-xa queued i/o interface ... the dispatching was somewhat analogous to what was defined later for the i432. re: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ANsubtype=CAhtmlfid=897/ENUS108-154appname=USN from above: HiperDispatch A z10 EC exclusive, HiperDispatch represents a cooperative effort between the z/OS operating system and the z10 EC hardware and is intended to provide improved efficiencies in both the hardware and the software in the following ways: * Work may be dispatched across fewer logical processors therefore reducing the multi-processor (MP) effects and lowering the interference among multiple partitions. * Specific z/OS tasks may be dispatched to a small subset of logical processors which Processor Resource/Systems Manager™ (PR/SM™) will tie to the same physical processors, thus improving the hardware cache re-use and locality of reference characteristics such as reducing the rate of cross-book communication. ... snip ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:00:33 -0600, Staller, Allan wrote: John, Sounds like things are looking up for you! It seems as if the longevity of the managers at John's shop is about 12-18 months (about the life of a typical CIO). Give this guy some time and he'll be out of there, too. Right, John? -- Tom Schmidt I have no idea. We have had a fast turnover recently (last 3 CIOs and staff only lasted about 12-18 month, each). I just wish that we'd get people with experience in multiple environment who are not fanatic about any of them. I, personally, despise Windows. But there may be a place for it. I'd hate to do word processing on z/OS (remember DW/370? [shudder]). I love Linux for interactive work. I wish that TSO could do some of the things that the UNIX shell can do. I've looked at the iSeries and i5/OS. Now that is a nice looking system! But I am not aware of __ANYTHING__ that can match z/OS for doing repetitive, batch oriented work. NOTHING. But maybe I'm just ignorant. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA-FAVER to DFDSS conversion
Greetings IBM-MAIN, We are in the process of converting using CA-FAVER to using IBM's DFDSS and would like to know if anyone had been through this process. Any tips, tricks or pitfalls identified would be greately appreciated. Fletch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ZOS V1R9 and Old APPS
Found out this week that DB2 will be retiring this year, so that is out of the equation. Then there are a few oddities like Nomad, but that made the trip from OS/390 2.10 through ZOS 1.4 and ZOS 1.7. Have y'all seen the new IBM mainframe announcement? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ZOS V1R9 and Old APPS
snip Found out this week that DB2 will be retiring this year, so that is out of the equation. Then there are a few oddities like Nomad, but that made the trip from OS/390 2.10 through ZOS 1.4 and ZOS 1.7. Have y'all seen the new IBM mainframe announcement? /snip Dan, if you are talking about the z10, yes I have. Does the make the z9 obsolete? Thanks, Fletch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:44:22 -0600, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:25:13 -0500, J R wrote: A new virtual storage area, the High Common Storage Area (HCSA), is defined. Did they really call it that? Or, did they mean to say, High Common *Service* Area? I know I've heard many people refer to the S in CSA as storage. So I think using storage makes more sense now. Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:53:36 -0600 From: mark.zelden HCSA - because 510T of shared storage is not enough. :-) Yeahbut... what happened to 'Grande' in the naming scheme? The Grande scheme is for 64-bit instructions. The H in HVSHARE also stands for High. Oh... b4 the pedantry starts: yes, I know HVSHARE can go up to 1 exabyte. 510 terabytes is just the default. On another preview note: I (still) don't see anything about the removal of support for opening VSAM data sets with IMBED or REPLICATE. The only mention is how VSAM data sets with IMBED (and KEYRANGE) relate to Extended Address Volumes (EAVs).I really wish IBM would at least commit to a date / release already so I can get the dasd geeks to really take some action on this issue. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
I would like to know information how to list the uncatalog datasets. I would like to know whether we can use IDCAMS utility or any other utility. Thanks. I've written REXX execs in the past to do this. Give it a list of volumes, use TSO utilities to get a list of datasets on the pack, and then do an IDCAMS lookup of each dataset name. If the dataset is not found, or is found on a different pack, it is uncataloged, and can potentially be deleted. Depending on how your catalogs, systems, and DASD are connected, you have to be really careful about this sort of job. Kevin McKenzie External Phone: 845-435-8282, Tie-line: 8-295-8282 z/OS BCP SVT, Dept FXKA, Bldg 706/2D38 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMS : WILD CARD USE IN FILTLIST
Looking at it again, I noticed that John was looking for range of 0 to 9 as the last character in the second and fourth nodes of his dataset. I setup the filtlists to look for 1 though 9. The filtlists should have been: FILTLST NUMA INCLUDE(%%0,%%1,%%2,%%3,%%4,%%5,%%6,%%7,%%8,%%9) FILTLST NUMB INCLUDE(%%%0,%%%1,%%%2,%%%3,%%%4,%%%5,%%%6,%%%7,%%%8,%%%9) Regards, John Very elegant! I like it. ddk FILTLST NUMA INCLUDE(%%1,%%2,%%3,%%4,%%5,%%6,%%7,%%8,%%9) FILTLST NUMB INCLUDE(%%%1,%%%2,%%%3,%%%4,%%%5,%%%6,%%%7,%%%8,%%%9) IF DSN EQ AM2.DE%.HESD.SOR%.** DSN(2) EQ NUMA DSN(4) EQ NUMB THEN DO END -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:48:34 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:08:53 -0600, Dave Kopischke wrote: We have a JCL checker application that verifies dataset access for a JOB. Through routine use of this product, we end up with thousands of access warnings on our daily RACF reports. This is not a hacking attempt. If there were hacking attempts occuring, it would be tough to see them through the noise though. I wonder that you get thousands of access warnings ... daily. Are your programmers commiting so many potential access errors in the course of coding their JCL? How many programmers does it take to do that? When I run a JCL scan under TSO, the product uses my user ID information to evaluate access. If I'm not going to be allowed access, it notes it and logs it even though when the JCL actually runs in production, it will use a different JOB card and different USER parameters. I can change this by coding JCL parameters to mimic production, but if I don't notice it or don't know what the proper parameters are, I get security violations. If it's a large JOB, I get lots of security violations. It's still not a hacking attempt. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
I know I've heard many people refer to the S in CSA as storage. So I think using storage makes more sense now. I've seen the 'S' stand for service, storage, system, over the last 28 years, so I have given up. The 'S' stands for 's'. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z10 books at www.redbooks.ibm.com
There are several books available at www.redbooks.ibm.com since today IBM System z10 Enterprise Class Technical Introduction, SG24-7515-00 IBM System z10 Enterprise Class Technical Guide, SG24-7516-00 IBM System z Connectivity Handbook, SG24-5444-08 Server Time Protocol Implementation Guide, SG24-7281-01 Server Time Protocol Planning Guide, SG24-7280-01 The last three are updated, they reflect changes announced with z10 EC. First two are new. Enjoy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to find uncatalog datasets.
I believe your site is licensed for the CA MICS DASD Space Collector/Analyzer components, which provides an option to collect catalog-status information for each scanned VTOC/dataset. Recommend this option be used infrequently due to the additional overhead. Check with your MICS Administration Team to obtain more details. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM Preview of z/OS V1.10
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes: I've seen the 'S' stand for service, storage, system, over the last 28 years, so I have given up. The 'S' stands for 's'. it started out as common segment area ... when it originally was a single segment. this was the transition from svs to mvs and required some place for applications to pass parameters to subsystems (running in different virtual address space) using pointer passing paradigm. however, it quickly got out of hand ... and became multiple common segments. recent posts with discussion of evoluation of mvs, common segments, dual-address space feature on 3081, and access registers http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008c.html#35 New Opcodes http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008d.html#69 Regarding the virtual machines http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2008e.html#14 Kernels here is posting with MVS APAR/PTF 0267587 from 1983 ... for running MVS Guest under VM ... when there was a problem with common segments bit on 3090 ... http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002m.html#0 common segment bit was added to virtual memory hardware table segment table entry definition. i have done a qd html conversion of the old gcard ios3270 (green card with additional info done in ios3270 format): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#13 370 table look aside buffer (TLB) implementations were STO-associative ... i.e. every hardware translation entry was associated with specific virtual address space (determine by its segment table origin address). if you did a special case operation for an installation running a (single) MVS operating system ... it was possible to imagine customizing improved hardware thruput ... even if it didn't conform to official 370 architecture ... but tailoring the hardware operation for exactly how MVS happened to be using the hardware. In the case of the common segment(s) ... the identical same segments appeared in every virtual address space (at least if you were only running a single MVS operating system on the bare hardware). That resulted in huge number of duplicate TLB entries ... since there were huge number of different applications (from their virtual address spaces) referencing locations in the common segment(s). Even if they were the same exact location ... since they origianted from different virtual address spaces ... they would have different (duplicate) entries in the TLB (associated with the specific STO/virtual address space that the operation occured in). The 370 segment table entry hardware table (see gcard DAT reference) was updated to define a bit meaning common segment. If TLB was processing a virtual address associated with a segment having the C bit turned on ... rather than associating the TLB entry with a specific virtual address space ... the TLB entry would be flagged as associated with the Common Segment(s). The straight-forward implementation only works if there is one and only one set of common segments across the whole infrastructure. current principles of operation reference for segment-table entries: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dz9zr003/3.11.2.2?DT=20040504121320 from above: Common-Segment Bit (C): Bit 59 controls the use of the translation-lookaside-buffer (TLB) copies of the segment-table entry and of the page table which it designates. A zero identifies a private segment; in this case, the segment-table entry and the page table it designates may be used only in association with the segment-table origin that designates the segment table in which the segment-table entry resides. A one identifies a common segment; in this case, the segment-table entry and the page table it designates may continue to be used for translating addresses corresponding to the segment index, even though a different segment table is specified. However, TLB copies of the segment-table entry and page table for a common segment are not usable if the private-space control, bit 55, is one in the address-space-control element used in the translation or if that address-space-control element is a real-space designation. The common-segment bit must be zero if the segment-table entry is fetched from storage during a translation when the private-space control is one in the address-space-control element being used; otherwise, a translation-specification exception is recognized. ... snip ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:35:10 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:08:53 -0600, Dave Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:07:24 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: One could argue that letting you determine your access to resources without actually trying to use them (and thus without causing audit records) is a form of hacking. You're looking around trying to figure out what you can do, rather than simply doing your job. We have a JCL checker application that verifies dataset access for a JOB. Through routine use of this product, we end up with thousands of access warnings on our daily RACF reports. This is not a hacking attempt. If there were hacking attempts occuring, it would be tough to see them through the noise though. I'm going to try to see if I can have this product changed to use a non- logged access check. That makes sense. Perhaps what you need, though, is a method allowing your application developers to run the JCL checking procedure against the proper user ID. You could let them put the JCL into a library with a known name, for example, and then have them run a program that either: (a) issued a command to run an STC to do the check, with the STC running under a more appropriate user ID; or (b) switched identity to the proper production ID and then submitted the JCL Check job. Walt, This sounds like a better approach, but we've got different combinations of USER= parameters to match up to dataset requirements within particular JOBs. I'll have to map this out and see if something like this can be workable. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has IBM provided a link to the z10 POPs?
Binyamin Dissen wrote: Has IBM provided a link to the z10 POPs? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Go to the IBM Publications Center http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?CTY=USnull; and search for SA22-7832-06 and you'll find it. George -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Has IBM provided a link to the z10 POPs?
George Young wrote: Binyamin Dissen wrote: Has IBM provided a link to the z10 POPs? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. Go to the IBM Publications Center http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?CTY=USnull; and search for SA22-7832-06 and you'll find it. George Thanks. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System z10 announcement (in English)
Because my shop has a small number of Linux or Unix servers to take advantage of server consolidation and z/VM virtualization. And a couple thousand cubic feet of Window$ servers that are overwhelming the environmentals in a room the used to hold a 3090-400j, a 3081, and a lot of 3390 and 3380s. But, all the damn software is Windows based. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: System z10 announcement (in English) On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote: Nice green stripe. Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting. ... anything else of interest ??? ... :0) Hmm... is it interesting that it doesn't do Windows Server (yet)? -- Tom Schmidt [shudder] From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newbie RACROUTE question: how to *test* authorization?
Dave wrote: I can change this by coding JCL parameters to mimic production, but if I don't notice it or don't know what the proper parameters are, I get security violations. If it's a large JOB, I get lots of security violations. It's still not a hacking attempt. Perhaps someone else could use your JCL scan to hack with? I don't know and I wouldn't do it myself. I wrote a REXX interface to our JCL scan product so it can check a production userid access to a dataset resource. I told the folks that use it that they must understand the fact that they cannot rely on the results of the access when the real task opens the dataset in its environment during OPEN time if: 1.) the task at OPEN is running Privileged or Trusted, 2.) the task at OPEN happened to have a trusted token, 3.) the task flipped one or more of those bypass authority checking bits before OPEN, 4.) the task at OPEN when the REQUEST=AUTH was a CSA or PRIVATE request, therefore bypassing GAC authority, 5.) that the Rexx interface call does not check for conditional access entries. The REXX interface function does a RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH and uses: USERID=user_id (for third party checking) STATUS=ACCESS (send back the access code (NONE, READ, UPDATE, CONTROL, ALTER) LOG=NONE (do not cut SMF audit records) And a few other necessary parameters. USERID and LOG require APF. I also check if the caller has the authority to use this function with a profile in the FACILITY class. George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
