Enclave SRB CPU time

2008-12-03 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

I'm testing an Enclave SRB routine, which is CPU intensive.
I thought the CPU time will appear in the SMF 30 SRB CPU, but  only the 
TCB CPU time changed.

(I'm using IEAMSCHD with SYNCH=YES)

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Shane
Leo Smith wrote:

 Why wouldn't you just use the z/VM V5R4 bookshelf?
 
 Here's how to find it:
 
 1)  Go to the z/OS Internet library Web page (includes links to z/VM
 and z/VSE manuals, too) at:
 
   http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/
 
 2)  Once there, click on the Bookshelf titles and filenames link
 under the Search heading:
 
   http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/find_shelves.html
 
 3)  On the returned page, type z/VM V5R4 into the search dialog box
 and click on the Find button.
 
 4)  On the returned page of search results, you'll get a link back to
 the z/VM V5R4 bookshelf
   available on our Web site.Click on the link:
 
   http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/HCSH2AA0

Plus 3 (?) mouse clicks to download each book. Right.
Seems you chose to ignore this bit of my post:
quote
All I could find (that was usable)
/quote

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Martin Packer
I'm wondering whether we need to hack together some helper scripts for 
PDFs. I know this is a VAGUE wondering. Will repeat it on Twitter and see 
if anyone bites in either forum. :-)

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a question about storage group attribution OVERFLOW and EXTEND SG NAME

2008-12-03 Thread Smartcurl Zhang
hi lists,

My ACS routine is like this:
...
*WHEN(HLQ= IMSDB) SET STORGRP = 'SGIMSDB','SGSPILL'*
*...*
**
Whatever(yes or no) I specify for *Overflow *of SGSPILL and (SGSPILL or
nothing) for *Extend SG  Name *of SGIMSDB in ISMF,
it always works fine.
So what's meaning of *Overflow* * *and *Extend SG  Name?*


thanks!!


Smartcurl Zhang

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Re: Enclave SRB CPU time

2008-12-03 Thread Martin Packer
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

 I'm testing an Enclave SRB routine, which is CPU intensive.
 I thought the CPU time will appear in the SMF 30 SRB CPU, 
 but only the TCB CPU time changed.

This is because Enclave SRBs are classified as Pre-emptible Class SRBs 
and as such are accounted for under TCB time. There is a separate bucket 
to break out their time. (All such buckets are ALSO accounted for under 
TCB time.

May I refer you to 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/resources/servers_eserver_zseries_zos_wlm_pdf_presrb.pdf
 
 where John Arwe did a great job of discussing all this.

Personally I think it may be time to update this paper and do a modern 
presentation on it. (That idea competes for my attention with a Parallel 
Sysplex Performance Topics presentation I feel inclined to write for next 
year's round of conferences.)

Martin

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Shane
Martin Packer wrote:

 I'm wondering whether we need to hack together some helper scripts
 for PDFs. I know this is a VAGUE wondering. Will repeat it on Twitter
 and see if anyone bites in either forum. :-)

Better yet Martin, how about twisting some upper appendages to get some
sensible download options for BookManager.
As mentioned earlier, why the hell can't packages (zip, tar, pax, ...)
of books (or better entire bookshelves including index) be
available ?.
Or park the whole DVD iso(s) somewhere for download - even if
limited to torrent. I'd be happy to leave my (home) system open
overnight as a seed, as I'm sure would others.

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Re: Enclave SRB CPU time

2008-12-03 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Thank you very much Martin

Martin Packer wrote:


Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

 


I'm testing an Enclave SRB routine, which is CPU intensive.
I thought the CPU time will appear in the SMF 30 SRB CPU, 
but only the TCB CPU time changed.
   



This is because Enclave SRBs are classified as Pre-emptible Class SRBs 
and as such are accounted for under TCB time. There is a separate bucket 
to break out their time. (All such buckets are ALSO accounted for under 
TCB time.


May I refer you to 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/resources/servers_eserver_zseries_zos_wlm_pdf_presrb.pdf 
where John Arwe did a great job of discussing all this.


Personally I think it may be time to update this paper and do a modern 
presentation on it. (That idea competes for my attention with a Parallel 
Sysplex Performance Topics presentation I feel inclined to write for next 
year's round of conferences.)


Martin

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Re: Manual formats

2008-12-03 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 22:07:26 -0800, Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

for jumping around in. Bookmanager for searching and skipping around in,
lousy for printing.

Personally, I find Bookmanager fair enough for printing (using the ancient 
Library Reader for Windows, not the current Java stuff) and so much 
better for searching and jumping around (and coming back after having 
jumped!) that I really have to insist that this format be kept.

Thanks,

Jantje.

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Re: Enclave SRB CPU time

2008-12-03 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Thank you again, I find everything in  smf30 rec.

Martin Packer wrote:


Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

 


I'm testing an Enclave SRB routine, which is CPU intensive.
I thought the CPU time will appear in the SMF 30 SRB CPU, 
but only the TCB CPU time changed.
   



This is because Enclave SRBs are classified as Pre-emptible Class SRBs 
and as such are accounted for under TCB time. There is a separate bucket 
to break out their time. (All such buckets are ALSO accounted for under 
TCB time.


May I refer you to 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/resources/servers_eserver_zseries_zos_wlm_pdf_presrb.pdf 
where John Arwe did a great job of discussing all this.


Personally I think it may be time to update this paper and do a modern 
presentation on it. (That idea competes for my attention with a Parallel 
Sysplex Performance Topics presentation I feel inclined to write for next 
year's round of conferences.)


Martin

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Re: Manual formats

2008-12-03 Thread Barbara Nitz
IBM, please keep the .boo files

Not only are pdfs larger than necessary, they are a pain for reading stuff, 
especially as everyone and his brother hardcodes some defaults like 'single 
page viewing' so that the readers preference for continuous viewing is 
generally ignored and has to be set anew in each book (several unnecessary 
mouseclicks).

In addition, having just been forced through the SAS pdfs to find out specific 
information, pdfs are abysmal for searching and jumping around (even the page 
number is not the page number to go to). 

I go through the trouble of downloading the necessary (to me) boo files for 
each new release (and I even give them understandable names). But then I am 
using the 1994 bookmanager library reader for windows. And I am hoping to the 
powers that be that this will still run when my company forces Vista on me.

Relying on an internet connection at oh:dark:30 to get at some vital 
information is NOT the way to go, despite IBMs efforts to force the users to do 
just that!

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Re: CPU time/instruction table

2008-12-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/02/2008
   at 11:57 AM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

The people that use this information today don't seem to be complaining.

Of course - they don't exist.
 
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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Leo Smith
Yeah, I missed that you needed them locally.  I was just responding
to being able to easily search the z/VM V5R4 manuals from the Internet.

Regarding download:  For z/OS, at least, you can use Softcopy Librarian to
download
books/PDFs/bookshelves/bookshelf indexes.

See:  http://www.ibm.com/software/applications/office/bkmgr/librarian.html

 Why wouldn't you just use the z/VM V5R4 bookshelf?

 Here's how to find it:

 1)  Go to the z/OS Internet library Web page (includes links to z/VM
 and z/VSE manuals, too) at:

   http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

 2)  Once there, click on the Bookshelf titles and filenames link
 under the Search heading:

   http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/find_shelves.html

 3)  On the returned page, type z/VM V5R4 into the search dialog box
 and click on the Find button.

 4)  On the returned page of search results, you'll get a link back to
 the z/VM V5R4 bookshelf
   available on our Web site.Click on the link:


http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/HCSH2AA0

Plus 3 (?) mouse clicks to download each book. Right.
Seems you chose to ignore this bit of my post:
quote
All I could find (that was usable)
/quote

Shane ...

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RMF MON. III Vsam Files

2008-12-03 Thread Morán Vaquero, Pedro
From Monitor III CPC Capacity we need obtain information over processors IIP. 
We don’t obtain this by another form because we don’t want change the 
Interval of SMF/RMF, and we need obtain with the current range of Monitor III 
(from its VSAM Files).  

We have Z-os v1r8 Rmf.   

Up to now,:

I think the table ERBCPUG3 has the data we need, so: 

1: From ERBDSIG3 (data set header and Index) I get offset and length of first 
ERBSSHG3 (MINTIME SET). -Data from first MEANTIME-

2: Dividing by 32752 (adding 1) I get register number and first position from 
area to be compressed and its length. 

3: I think this is the area to be decompressed. It has (more or less)   37/38 
registers (32752 each) to be passed to exit ERB3RDEC and it has this look:

VIEW   PMORANC.RMF.SIST.F2 Columns 29647 29718 
Command ===  Scroll === CSR  
=COLS ---5+6+7+8+9+0+

08B805D10779B3747340F85490C8F192934B8514DD52B3744220A8280379FC2AE
FE0E7C2
---
--- 
12 À ä0 33909   2105 SN170D Á  À ä0 33909   2105   
   
604F03320F44421001EDFFFC0610604F03320F444F
FFF444
 000
---
---   

At first I see data apparently decompressed. Is it normal here?. Or I am 
following a missing track 

Meanwhile: Mi idea is calling from cobol to exit ERB3RDEC. But it is possible 
this exercice is solved  already . I will be grateful for any asinstance on 
this 
matter. 
 
And at end:

Is this the better way to resolve, or there is another more speddy and 
efficient?
(Now think this can be the first question)

I will be very grateful to any help.

(Thanks in advance)

Pedro Morán 

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Re: a question about storage group attribution OVERFLOW and EXTEND SG NAME

2008-12-03 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Smartcurl Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 hi lists,
 
 My ACS routine is like this:
 ...
 *WHEN(HLQ= IMSDB) SET STORGRP = 'SGIMSDB','SGSPILL'*
 *...*
 **
 Whatever(yes or no) I specify for *Overflow *of SGSPILL and (SGSPILL
or
 nothing) for *Extend SG  Name *of SGIMSDB in ISMF,
 it always works fine.
 So what's meaning of *Overflow* * *and *Extend SG  Name?*
 
 
 thanks!!
 
 
 Smartcurl Zhang

The overflow SG is used for the allocation of a dataset. Usually SGSPILL
is set to DIS NEW and will only be used for allocating a datasets when
SGIMSDB has insufficient space.

The Extend SG is used when an existing dataset has to expand to a new
volume, but there is not enough space in the current SG. In this case
the dataset can extend to a volume in the Extend SG.

Kees.
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Re: a question about storage group attribution OVERFLOW and EXTEND SG NAME

2008-12-03 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
t...
 
 
 Smartcurl Zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  hi lists,
  
  My ACS routine is like this:
  ...
  *WHEN(HLQ= IMSDB) SET STORGRP = 'SGIMSDB','SGSPILL'*
  *...*
  **
  Whatever(yes or no) I specify for *Overflow *of SGSPILL and (SGSPILL
 or
  nothing) for *Extend SG  Name *of SGIMSDB in ISMF,
  it always works fine.
  So what's meaning of *Overflow* * *and *Extend SG  Name?*
  
  
  thanks!!
  
  
  Smartcurl Zhang
 
 The overflow SG is used for the allocation of a dataset. Usually
SGSPILL
 is set to DIS NEW

Sorry: QUIESCED NEW of course.

 and will only be used for allocating a datasets when
 SGIMSDB has insufficient space.
 
 The Extend SG is used when an existing dataset has to expand to a new
 volume, but there is not enough space in the current SG. In this case
 the dataset can extend to a volume in the Extend SG.
 
 Kees.
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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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   at 08:51 PM, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I would still appreciate your comments regarding PDF-only even if it
applies only to potential subsequent releases.

Please stick with BookManager unless and until you can supply something
else at least as good. That includes fast searches, cross-reference links
and indexing.
 
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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
12/02/2008
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I do wish IBM would get BookManager upgraded to work on Vista someday
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I'd like Linux and OS/2 versions, non-Java.
 
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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Shane
Shmuel Metzwrote:

 I do wish IBM would get BookManager upgraded to work on Vista someday
 soon.
 
 I'd like Linux and OS/2 versions, non-Java.

What he said - although I don't relish resurrecting my old OS/2
floppies yet again ... :eek:

A usable Linux (definitely __non-Java__) version would be great.

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Re: Manual formats

2008-12-03 Thread Martin Packer
I wonder if an open-source .BOO reader has merit. As well as perhaps an 
open-source writer.

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Peter Relson
Thank you for your thoughts and comments.

Just to clarify: This discussion began with respect to the data areas
books, and was intended to be limited to those books. There is no thought
that I am aware of to change from having the z/OS manuals other than data
areas in both book and PDF format. So that should allay some of the fear.

The only issue currently on the table is whether the data areas books
themselves should be
-- gotten rid of entirely (that will *not* happen)
-- made available only in PDF
-- made available in both PDF and book.
-- made available in some other format entirely (this seems unlikely to me,
but I wanted to mention it for completeness)

I do not have any idea if only book format on the WEB' vs book format on
TSO as well as on the WEB is a consideration. I did note the several
comments from folks who use the book format on TSO.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:25:04 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[..]
Really, it shouldn't be this difficult to find the info we want/need.

Indeed.  Isn't there some sort of 'minimum documentation' requirement?  Since 
we no longer have any hardcopy, we ought to have usable software.  PDF just 
doesn't cut it.  Search and index bite, plus the sundry issues already cited.  
BookManager and Librarian are great tools - it's a shame IBM is giving up on 
them.  Now that it's written in Java, isn't it easy and cheap enough to 
maintain and port the code (forget Vista, but what about the many flavors of 
Linux, z OS', Mac OS, etc.)?

Once again, they forsake a superior product in the name of ubiquity.  SIGH

Regards,
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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:45:52 -0600, Arthur Gutowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:25:04 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[..]
Really, it shouldn't be this difficult to find the info we want/need.

Indeed.  Isn't there some sort of 'minimum documentation' requirement?  Since
we no longer have any hardcopy, we ought to have usable software.  PDF just
doesn't cut it.  Search and index bite, plus the sundry issues already cited.
BookManager and Librarian are great tools - it's a shame IBM is giving up on
them.  Now that it's written in Java, isn't it easy and cheap enough to
maintain and port the code (forget Vista, but what about the many flavors of
Linux, z OS', Mac OS, etc.)?

I can't say about Bookmanager Read, but the Softcopy Librarian seems to have
some Windows specific add-ons so that it cannot run on anything other than
Windows. I don't understand why IBM did this.


Once again, they forsake a superior product in the name of ubiquity.  SIGH

And, I will bet, to decrease their costs. If they can eliminate bookmanager,
then they can drop support for all that software. And they don't charge for
it, so maintaining it is a dead loss.


Regards,
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IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread Patrick Falcone
Can someone, I the know, save me some look-up time and tell me if I can add an 
IFL to a IBM 2066-002. My understanding is that this processor type comes with 
2 spare CP's. 
 
The question now becomes, is the 2066 still supported with regards to turning 
on one of the spares as an IFL?
 
TIA... 

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
There is no thought that I am aware of to change from having the z/OS 
manuals other than data areas in both book and PDF format.

There are other IBM products besides z/OS that are already dropping 
the .boo format for some of their books. I recently had the need to 
get current books for DB2 V9.1 for z/OS. I've found many of them 
in both .pdf and .boo format while some were available only as .pdf.

So that should allay some of the fear.

Not really, see my comment above.

I do not have any idea if only book format on the WEB' vs book format

on TSO as well as on the WEB is a consideration. I did note the
several 
comments from folks who use the book format on TSO.

Is the .boo format found in the CDs any different from either the 
WEB or the TSO format? If so, then there need to be 3 formats.



I'm really having a hard time to understand why providing manuals in
.boo
format or not is an issue at all. IBM manuals, at least in the z-area,
have
a common look which seem to indicate they are all written with similar
tools
and strong sytle rules. Isn't there an automated process of producing
.boo, .html, .pdf and what else from the same source? What a shame.

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Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread R.S.

Patrick Falcone wrote:
Can someone, I the know, save me some look-up time and tell me if I can add an IFL to a IBM 2066-002. My understanding is that this processor type comes with 2 spare CP's. 
 
The question now becomes, is the 2066 still supported with regards to turning on one of the spares as an IFL?


Technically yes, but it would be hard to buy it from IBM.
z/800 can have up to 4 processors for user, that means CP's or other.
Of course it contains SAP and (afaik) spare as well.

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
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Snipped 
 The only issue currently on the table is whether the data areas books
 themselves should be
 -- gotten rid of entirely (that will *not* happen)
 -- made available only in PDF
 -- made available in both PDF and book.
 -- made available in some other format entirely (this seems unlikely
to
 me, but I wanted to mention it for completeness)

FWIW, #3 -- both formats, please, for all the same reasons that were
cited re: every other IBM manual.

Debugging is hard enough already, and Data Areas are sometimes critical
to enabling it to be done at all.

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/02/2008
   at 11:04 AM, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

These days a big honkin' USB hard drive might be a better choice.

What's wrong with old fashioned DVD's?
 
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Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread Patrick Falcone
Thanks Radoslaw. 
 
I believe that the 002 comes with 2 GP CP's and 1 SAP configured and 2 spares 
but I cannot find any document stating that IBM does not support adding the IFL 
at this late date for this series of processors.

--- On Wed, 12/3/08, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 2:51 PM

Patrick Falcone wrote:
 Can someone, I the know, save me some look-up time and tell me if I can
add an IFL to a IBM 2066-002. My understanding is that this processor type comes
with 2 spare CP's. 
  
 The question now becomes, is the 2066 still supported with regards to
turning on one of the spares as an IFL?

Technically yes, but it would be hard to buy it from IBM.
z/800 can have up to 4 processors for user, that means CP's or
other.
Of course it contains SAP and (afaik) spare as well.

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Eric Spencer
Shane 

If you use the IBM Softcopy Librarian product you can access books via
the internet from the sources and repositories page. 
I download both pdf and .boo files by bookshelf including index to my
laptop all the time using softcopy librarian. 

Eric 

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Martin Packer wrote:

 I'm wondering whether we need to hack together some helper scripts
 for PDFs. I know this is a VAGUE wondering. Will repeat it on Twitter
 and see if anyone bites in either forum. :-)

Better yet Martin, how about twisting some upper appendages to get some
sensible download options for BookManager.
As mentioned earlier, why the hell can't packages (zip, tar, pax, ...)
of books (or better entire bookshelves including index) be
available ?.
Or park the whole DVD iso(s) somewhere for download - even if
limited to torrent. I'd be happy to leave my (home) system open
overnight as a seed, as I'm sure would others.

Shane ...

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strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Jim McAlpine
I'm assembling/linking ICHRDSNT for z/OS 1.7 for the first time.  Both steps
in the job end with rc=0 and the output from the job looks fine.  However
when I look in the load library in ISPF, the line for ICHRDSNT looks like
this -

_ ICHRDSNT *No
Data

and if I try to browse that member, I get member not found.  I'm using the
same JCL that I successfully used for z/OS 1.4.

Any ideas.

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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Big Iron
Could it be that you need to refresh that module in LLA?

Bill

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:15:17 +, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm assembling/linking ICHRDSNT for z/OS 1.7 for the first time.  Both steps
in the job end with rc=0 and the output from the job looks fine.  However
when I look in the load library in ISPF, the line for ICHRDSNT looks like
this -

_ ICHRDSNT *No
Data

and if I try to browse that member, I get member not found.  I'm using the
same JCL that I successfully used for z/OS 1.4.

Any ideas.

Jim McAlpine


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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Thompson, Steve
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/02/2008
   at 11:04 AM, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

These days a big honkin' USB hard drive might be a better choice.

What's wrong with old fashioned DVD's?
 
SNIP

They can get scratched and become unreadable. Just had it happen. We had
an INSTALL DVD get a scratch on it, and it became a coaster. Mind you,
it was in a protection sleeve inside a thick cardboard media envelope.

Granted, you can make the same arguments for a USB drive (well, what if
they dropped it?). But it is, in my opinion, harder to screw up a 4GB
thumb drive than it is to screw up a DVD.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread R.S.

Patrick Falcone wrote:
Thanks Radoslaw. 
 
I believe that the 002 comes with 2 GP CP's and 1 SAP configured and 2 spares but I cannot find any document stating that IBM does not support adding the IFL at this late date for this series of processors.


*Each* z/800 has the same MCM chip. All models are enable by microcode. 
Indeed model 002 has 2 CPs (or GPs depending on nomenclature). However 
the same machine can be 004, 4xIFL, 2CP+ICF, etc.
No technical barriers. The only barrier is ...IBM. Any change in z/800 
can be price ineffective or simply impossible due to out of marketing.


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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM


Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I'm assembling/linking ICHRDSNT for z/OS 1.7 for the first time.  Both
steps
 in the job end with rc=0 and the output from the job looks fine.
However
 when I look in the load library in ISPF, the line for ICHRDSNT looks
like
 this -
 
 _ ICHRDSNT *No
 Data
 
 and if I try to browse that member, I get member not found.  I'm
using the
 same JCL that I successfully used for z/OS 1.4.
 
 Any ideas.
 
 Jim McAlpine
 


Probably totally irrelevant question, but: did you update/refresh LLA?

Kees.
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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Big Iron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could it be that you need to refresh that module in LLA?

 Bill

 DOH !.  Of course, thanks Bill.

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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Don Leahy
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Thompson, Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 They can get scratched and become unreadable. Just had it happen. We had
 an INSTALL DVD get a scratch on it, and it became a coaster. Mind you,
 it was in a protection sleeve inside a thick cardboard media envelope.

 Granted, you can make the same arguments for a USB drive (well, what if
 they dropped it?). But it is, in my opinion, harder to screw up a 4GB
 thumb drive than it is to screw up a DVD.

 Regards,
 Steve Thompson


I can vouch for that.  My thumb drive has been through the laundry
-twice- and still works.

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Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread Staller, Allan
z/800 went EO marketing a little earlier this year. No MES or upgrades
are orderable AFAIK.

http://www-07.ibm.com/systems/sg/z/800/


HTH,
snip
I believe that the 002 comes with 2 GP CP's and 1 SAP configured and 2
spares but I cannot find any document stating that IBM does not support
adding the IFL at this late date for this series of processors.
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InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Edward Jaffe

Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
There is no thought that I am aware of to change from having the z/OS 
manuals other than data areas in both book and PDF format.



There are other IBM products besides z/OS that are already dropping 
the .boo format for some of their books. I recently had the need to 
get current books for DB2 V9.1 for z/OS. I've found many of them 
in both .pdf and .boo format while some were available only as .pdf.
  


Peter is right. Many products have fully transitioned to, or are moving 
toward, Information Centers. For example:


DB2: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9/index.jsp
CICS: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v3r2/index.jsp
WAS: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v5r1/index.jsp
DS8000: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dsichelp/ds8000ic/index.jsp
Tivoli Storage Manager: 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp

z/VM: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp

In keeping with the tradition that Z/OS users are always the last to 
know, possibly because we're the most demanding group, ours is referred 
to as a beta 
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp so as not 
to imply our existing sources of documentation are going away, which I 
believe they are (eventually).


These public InfoCenters use IBM-provided web servers running Apache 
TomCat. Similar servers can be put up on corporate intranet.


Last year, I downloaded the IEHS and successfully ran it on my Windows 
laptop as a stand-alone application. It's kinda big (like 12MB), but it 
works. http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/iehs


What doesn't work is direct TSO/E access to these books. :-( You need 
a PC and a web server, even if it local to the PC.


Since 98% of the information is just text over HTML, I wonder if lynx, 
running under z/OS UNIX, can render this information adequately? I'm 
worried about how the stuff in the left pane will look/operate with 
lynx. Is lynx even an option for z/OS users? I've never investigated this...


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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:16:57 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you for your thoughts and comments.

Just to clarify: This discussion began with respect to the data areas
books, and was intended to be limited to those books. 

Ok.  That wasn't clear to me before, hence my comments about BM
in general.


The only issue currently on the table is whether the data areas books
themselves should be
-- gotten rid of entirely (that will *not* happen)
-- made available only in PDF
-- made available in both PDF and book.
-- made available in some other format entirely (this seems unlikely to me,
but I wanted to mention it for completeness)


I still want BM because I use the old library reader that doesn't support PDF
bookshelves.  Even if I used the Java reader (which I do have installed),
I would open the BM format MVS bookshelf, and that is where I would want
to see the data area manuals (along with all the other manuals).  Also a
bookshelf search wouldn't include those manuals if they were not there
in BM format also.  I don't download the PDF version of the MVS bookshelf,
so I have no idea how long it takes to do a bookshelf search, but even if
it didn't take too long the way adobe displays the hits is awful compared 
to BM.   Long live Book Manager!!  

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Re: CPU time/instruction table

2008-12-03 Thread Edward Jaffe

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/02/2008
   at 11:57 AM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

  

The people that use this information today don't seem to be complaining.



Of course - they don't exist.
  


As common sense would suggest, such information does exist. It's just 
not publicly available.


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REXX routines fail in Z/OS 1.9 work in Z/OS 1.7 -

2008-12-03 Thread Don Isenstadt
Hello,

We are currently at Z/OS 1.7 going to Z/OS 1.9. In testing we found that the 
TSO TALLY command fails..

 70 +++  RETURN C2D(STORAGE(D2X(ARG(1)),4))
 35 +++ dtb= PTR(dta+016)   /**/
 IRX0040I Error running TALLY1, line 70: Incorrect call to routine

I also have another routing which lists open tables ..  and it fails in the 
same 
manner as well.. 

Two questions:
1. What happened in ISPF 5.7 to 5.9??? did they put things in 64 bit ?? and the
ptr function doesn't give correct results any longer?

2) Does anyone out there have a fix for this??? 

-thanks..

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:23:19 -0800, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
 There is no thought that I am aware of to change from having the z/OS
 manuals other than data areas in both book and PDF format.


 There are other IBM products besides z/OS that are already dropping
 the .boo format for some of their books. I recently had the need to
 get current books for DB2 V9.1 for z/OS. I've found many of them
 in both .pdf and .boo format while some were available only as .pdf.


Peter is right. Many products have fully transitioned to, or are moving
toward, Information Centers. For example:

DB2: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/db2luw/v9/index.jsp
CICS: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v3r2/index.jsp
WAS: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v5r1/index.jsp
DS8000: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dsichelp/ds8000ic/index.jsp
Tivoli Storage Manager:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp
z/VM: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp

In keeping with the tradition that Z/OS users are always the last to
know, possibly because we're the most demanding group, ours is referred
to as a beta
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp so as not
to imply our existing sources of documentation are going away, which I
believe they are (eventually).


And then there are Library Centers also.  For example:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zosv1r9/

But I assume those are being replaced with the Information Centers.

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Re: REXX routines fail in Z/OS 1.9 work in Z/OS 1.7 -

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:35:47 -0600, Don Isenstadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

We are currently at Z/OS 1.7 going to Z/OS 1.9. In testing we found that the
TSO TALLY command fails..

 70 +++  RETURN C2D(STORAGE(D2X(ARG(1)),4))
 35 +++ dtb= PTR(dta+016)   /**/
 IRX0040I Error running TALLY1, line 70: Incorrect call to routine

I also have another routing which lists open tables ..  and it fails in the
same
manner as well..

Two questions:
1. What happened in ISPF 5.7 to 5.9??? did they put things in 64 bit ?? and the
ptr function doesn't give correct results any longer?

2) Does anyone out there have a fix for this???


This exec used undocumented control blocks.  I haven't looked into fixing it,
but you don't need to since this function is now built into ISPF 3.4 at 
z/OS 1.9 and above. 

Select (with a slash) the  Display Total Tracks option from the main
ISPF 3.4 panel. Then also select the initial view as SPACE or TOTAL 
or swap to one of those views with PF11 / RIGHT.The total number of
tracks is displayed at the top.

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
 
 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 08:23:19 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
 
 Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) wrote:
 
  There are other IBM products besides z/OS that are already dropping
  the .boo format for some of their books. I recently had the need to
  get current books for DB2 V9.1 for z/OS. I've found many of them
  in both .pdf and .boo format while some were available only as
.pdf.
 
 
 Peter is right. Many products have fully transitioned to, or are
moving
 toward, Information Centers. For example:
 
 [ snip ]
 
 In keeping with the tradition that Z/OS users are always the last to
 know, possibly because we're the most demanding group, ours is
referred
 to as a beta
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/index.jsp so as
not
 to imply our existing sources of documentation are going away, which
I
 believe they are (eventually).
 
 And then there are Library Centers also.  For example:
 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zosv1r9/
 
 But I assume those are being replaced with the Information Centers.

I hope so.  The Library Centers are Java-based, and it takes a couple
of weeks just for the navigation frame to populate.

-jc-

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Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread Brian Peterson
I believe the document you are looking for is Announcement 905-220 from
October 2005:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/0/897/ENUS905-220/ENUS905-220.PDF

Brian

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:01:24 -0800, Patrick Falcone wrote:

Thanks Radoslaw. 
 
I believe that the 002 comes with 2 GP CP's and 1 SAP configured and 2
spares but I cannot find any document stating that IBM does not support
adding the IFL at this late date for this series of processors.


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Activation of IOCDS fails

2008-12-03 Thread Jerry Fuchs
This is the first time that I have had to update the IODF and IOCDS under 
z/OS 1.7.

After activating the IODF I activate the IOCDS and it failes with the 
following messages

ACTIVATE ACTIOCDS=A2 
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS6 
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS7 
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT 
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA. 
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT 
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA. 
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 692 
ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED 
NOTE = A821,PROCESSOR DEFINITION WENDYS IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF 
IODF.IODF02 DOES NOT MATCH CURRENT HARDWARE DEFINITION, 
H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC. 
 COMPID=SC1XL 
REASON=A828,KEYWORD ACTIOCDS NOT ALLOWED, ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE 
POSSIBLE. 
 COMPID=SC1XL 
REASON=A819,ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE ALLOWED, SPECIFY SOFT FOR 
CONFIRMATION. 
 COMPID=SC1XL 

I am at a complete loss. I use a batch job to build the IODF and IOCDS.

I can send the listing from my job offline if you want to take a look at 
it.

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Edward Jaffe

Chase, John wrote:

I hope so.  The Library Centers are Java-based, and it takes a couple
of weeks just for the navigation frame to populate.
  


Information Centers are also Java based...

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Re: IBM DFRMM Reporting

2008-12-03 Thread Greg Shirey
Tom Conley has presented on this very subject at several SHAREs.  

The only link I could find to his presentation material is here: 
http://www.cartagena.com/naspa/m200411b/DFSMSrmm_Report_Generator.pdf

-Original Message-
From: Jim Marshall 
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 11:08 AM
Subject: IBM DFRMM Reporting

I was a long time user of the CA-1 Tape Management System (TMS) and 
remember the reporting capabilities (TMSGRW, etc) which gave me the
chance 
to slice and dice the TMC info.  In the present position as Coach of
the 
Sysprogs I have to rely on them to get me info I need. We run DFRMM and
I 
am told there is no generalized tool for reporting RMM stuff. 

Would appreciate any suggestions about what people use, techniques, or 
even Open Source Tools (aka, SHAREWARE) which could assist me. Yes, I 
could delve into the manuals and relive my techie days but I must leave
it to 
the Contractors; besides there are many non-contractor issues to deal
with 
besides getting ones hands dirty again. 

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Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL

2008-12-03 Thread Patrick Falcone
Thanks Brian and Al. We were considering *playing* with a POC on this machine 
but will have to look to a newer one I guess. 

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From: Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IBM 2066-002 Adding Spare CP as IFL
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 4:54 PM

I believe the document you are looking for is Announcement 905-220 from
October 2005:

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/0/897/ENUS905-220/ENUS905-220.PDF

Brian

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:01:24 -0800, Patrick Falcone wrote:

Thanks Radoslaw. 
 
I believe that the 002 comes with 2 GP CP's and 1 SAP configured and 2
spares but I cannot find any document stating that IBM does not support
adding the IFL at this late date for this series of processors.


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Full .PDF downloads for Mainframe Executive after the premier issue?

2008-12-03 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi,

 

Does anyone have download links for the full .PDF copies of the Mainframe 
Executive magazines after the first issue (Mar/Apr 2008)?

I like to archive zJournal and this too but I just cannot save the paper 
copies.  

Best Regards, 

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Re: Activation of IOCDS fails

2008-12-03 Thread Skip Robinson
The problem has nothing to do with the IODF itself or the job that created
it. The problem is environmental: at the last IPL--for whatever reason--the
system did not use an IODF file that matched the one that was *at that
time* the active one in the hardware. If you examine syslog from the last
IPL, you will probably see messages that indicate the problem. If you do D
IOS,CONFIG now, you will see that your system is not dynamic.

The 'simplest' way to fix this is to IPL again with a matching IODF
available and usable. Worst case is that you may have to do a POR with a
newly updated IOCDS. I say 'usable' because one reason for failure to use
your intended IODF at IPL is that it has taken more than one extent. A
multi-extent IODF can look perfectly good until you try to IPL; IOS will
not use it.

.
.
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This is the first time that I have had to update the IODF and IOCDS under
z/OS 1.7.

After activating the IODF I activate the IOCDS and it failes with the
following messages

ACTIVATE ACTIOCDS=A2
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS6
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS7
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA.
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA.
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 692
ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED
NOTE = A821,PROCESSOR DEFINITION WENDYS IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF
IODF.IODF02 DOES NOT MATCH CURRENT HARDWARE DEFINITION,
H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC.
 COMPID=SC1XL
REASON=A828,KEYWORD ACTIOCDS NOT ALLOWED, ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE
POSSIBLE.
 COMPID=SC1XL
REASON=A819,ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE ALLOWED, SPECIFY SOFT FOR
CONFIRMATION.
 COMPID=SC1XL

I am at a complete loss. I use a batch job to build the IODF and IOCDS.

I can send the listing from my job offline if you want to take a look at
it.

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Re: Activation of IOCDS fails

2008-12-03 Thread Raymond Noal
Jerry,

You need to ACTIVATE both your IOCDS and IODF using the same ACTIVATE command.

Use:  ACTIVATE ACTIOCDS=A2,IODF=XX,FORCE=(DEVICE,CANDIDATE) -or whatever suits 
your needs. You must have the IOCDS and IODF with the same token value. 

Use:  D IOS,CONFIG - to display the currently active IOCDS and IODF. 

Before you can change the IOCDS, both the IOCDS and IODF must have the same 
token value. If the IOCDS and IODF token values not equal, you can only do 
software configuration ACTIVATEs. (ACTIVATE IODF=XX)

HTH

HITACHI
 DATA SYSTEMS 
Raymond E. Noal 
Senior Technical Engineer 
Office: (408) 970 - 7978 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Jerry Fuchs
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Activation of IOCDS fails

This is the first time that I have had to update the IODF and IOCDS under 
z/OS 1.7.

After activating the IODF I activate the IOCDS and it failes with the 
following messages

ACTIVATE ACTIOCDS=A2 
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS6 
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS7 
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT 
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA. 
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT 
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA. 
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 692 
ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED 
NOTE = A821,PROCESSOR DEFINITION WENDYS IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF 
IODF.IODF02 DOES NOT MATCH CURRENT HARDWARE DEFINITION, 
H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC. 
 COMPID=SC1XL 
REASON=A828,KEYWORD ACTIOCDS NOT ALLOWED, ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE 
POSSIBLE. 
 COMPID=SC1XL 
REASON=A819,ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE ALLOWED, SPECIFY SOFT FOR 
CONFIRMATION. 
 COMPID=SC1XL 

I am at a complete loss. I use a batch job to build the IODF and IOCDS.

I can send the listing from my job offline if you want to take a look at 
it.

Thanks

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Re: Activation of IOCDS fails

2008-12-03 Thread Neubert, Kevin
It doesn't seem like your updated IOCDS was written out.  Double check your 
IOCDS A2 content, date, etc.

Regards,

Kevin

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Jerry Fuchs
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Activation of IOCDS fails

This is the first time that I have had to update the IODF and IOCDS under
z/OS 1.7.

After activating the IODF I activate the IOCDS and it failes with the
following messages

ACTIVATE ACTIOCDS=A2
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS6
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS7
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA.
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA.
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 692
ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED
NOTE = A821,PROCESSOR DEFINITION WENDYS IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF
IODF.IODF02 DOES NOT MATCH CURRENT HARDWARE DEFINITION,
H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC.
 COMPID=SC1XL
REASON=A828,KEYWORD ACTIOCDS NOT ALLOWED, ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE
POSSIBLE.
 COMPID=SC1XL
REASON=A819,ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE ALLOWED, SPECIFY SOFT FOR
CONFIRMATION.
 COMPID=SC1XL

I am at a complete loss. I use a batch job to build the IODF and IOCDS.

I can send the listing from my job offline if you want to take a look at
it.

Thanks

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Re: InfoCenters (Was: Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas)

2008-12-03 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
 
 Chase, John wrote:
  I hope so.  The Library Centers are Java-based, and it takes a
couple
  of weeks just for the navigation frame to populate.
 
 
 Information Centers are also Java based...

Hmmm  I guess Eclipse uses a fully caffeinated Java, then

-jc-

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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Sounds Scary. Are you really updating ICHDSNT on the fly in a live
system. Hope it IPLs )

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State Univsersity


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 Could it be that you need to refresh that module in LLA?

 Bill

 DOH !.  Of course, thanks Bill.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: REXX routines fail in Z/OS 1.9 work in Z/OS 1.7 -

2008-12-03 Thread Greg Shirey
As far as TALLY goes, the DSLIST panel supplies an option to display
track information in z/OS 1.9.
It's the last option under Data set list options: 

Enter / to select option   
/  Confirm Data Set Delete   
/  Confirm Member Delete 
/  Include Additional Qualifiers 
/  Display Catalog Name  
/  Display Total Tracks  
 
HTH,
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:36 AM
Subject: REXX routines fail in Z/OS 1.9 work in Z/OS 1.7 -

Hello,

We are currently at Z/OS 1.7 going to Z/OS 1.9. In testing we found that
the 
TSO TALLY command fails..

snip

2) Does anyone out there have a fix for this??? 

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Re: Full .PDF downloads for Mainframe Executive after the premier issue?

2008-12-03 Thread Ken Porowski
I tried to send you copies but it appears they are too big and are
getting rejected.
IIRC there is a contact on the ME site, if you send them a email they
will send back the links (at least they did for me with issue 2).

Ken Porowski
AVP Systems Software
CIT Group
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the premier issue?

Hi,

 

Does anyone have download links for the full .PDF copies of the
Mainframe Executive magazines after the first issue (Mar/Apr 2008)?

I like to archive zJournal and this too but I just cannot save the paper
copies.  

Best Regards, 

Sam Knutson, GEICO 
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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread R.S.

Gibney, Dave wrote:

Sounds Scary. Are you really updating ICHDSNT on the fly in a live
system. Hope it IPLs )


1. Who said, there is no backup and sandbox system ? g
2. Mistakes in DSNT does not necessarily prevent IPL. Bad (missing) RACF 
db names cause WTOR only. Improper parameters of sysplex comunication 
and datasharing could be dangerous, but are not related to IPL process 
itself.

3. I agree, it's better to avoid mistakes g and test, test, test.
4. Did I mention testing?

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Re: REXX routines fail in Z/OS 1.9 work in Z/OS 1.7 -

2008-12-03 Thread Don Isenstadt
Thank you!! That solves our problem ... this list is awsome!

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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:30:25 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Gibney, Dave wrote:
 Sounds Scary. Are you really updating ICHDSNT on the fly in a live
 system. Hope it IPLs )
...snipped...
2. Mistakes in DSNT does not necessarily prevent IPL. Bad (missing) RACF
db names cause WTOR only. Improper parameters of sysplex comunication
and datasharing could be dangerous, but are not related to IPL process
itself.

Improper sysplex communication and data sharing parameters are related to
the IPL, in the sense that RACF uses them during the IPL, and if they're
wrong you can end up destroying your RACF database (or some other system's
RACF database).

But perhaps you meant something else?

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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread R.S.

Walt Farrell wrote:

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 19:30:25 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gibney, Dave wrote:

Sounds Scary. Are you really updating ICHDSNT on the fly in a live
system. Hope it IPLs )

...snipped...
2. Mistakes in DSNT does not necessarily prevent IPL. Bad (missing) RACF
db names cause WTOR only. Improper parameters of sysplex comunication
and datasharing could be dangerous, but are not related to IPL process
itself.


Improper sysplex communication and data sharing parameters are related to
the IPL, in the sense that RACF uses them during the IPL, and if they're
wrong you can end up destroying your RACF database (or some other system's
RACF database).

But perhaps you meant something else?


There is no disagreement here. Wrong sysplex parameters can lead to 
database corruption, but won't preserve system from IPL. In other words 
IPL will be succesful, but the RACF db will be under high risk.


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Re: z/OS 1.10 and Data Areas

2008-12-03 Thread Rick Fochtman

I'll add one other feature: no JAVA dependancies!

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:


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I would still appreciate your comments regarding PDF-only even if it
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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Rick Fochtman
Be careful where you put it. In my experience, it needs to go to 
SYS1.LINKLIB and only becomes effective after a re-IPL. Have you 
refreshed LLA after your link ??


Jim McAlpine wrote:


I'm assembling/linking ICHRDSNT for z/OS 1.7 for the first time.  Both steps
in the job end with rc=0 and the output from the job looks fine.  However
when I look in the load library in ISPF, the line for ICHRDSNT looks like
this -

_ ICHRDSNT *No
Data

and if I try to browse that member, I get member not found.  I'm using the
same JCL that I successfully used for z/OS 1.4.

Any ideas.

Jim McAlpine

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SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these
errors.
What is this trying to tell me?

sample:

++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721)
** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
   RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.

SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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/*PRIORITY change without JCL change

2008-12-03 Thread John Mattson
Certainly there are (expensive) products which change JES job 
input priority /*PRIORITY in order to maximize thruput.  However, my shop 
will not pay for them, so I am trying to fiture out another way. 
Changing JCL works but is labor intensive, and you have to scan 
every job just to find out what jobs are currently assigned /*PRIORITY  so 
let's skip that as a solution. 
IFF I had an Automated ops type system I could use that to change 
the input priority, But I do not have one, and am unlikely to get one. 
Skip that too. 
Basically it would look like an easy to maintain table of 1) 
JOBNAME and 2) Input Priority 3) maybe job class.  Then something that, 
right after the job is interpreted, will issue the proper command(s) to 
set Jobclass and prioriy.  Perhaps a User exit?  Anybody already solved 
this? 

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Matt Dazzo
You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle new FIXCAT 
FMID.

 Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these
errors.
What is this trying to tell me?

sample:

++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721)
** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
   RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.

SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a piece
of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will the PTF end
up being applied if I run APPLY?

Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle new
 FIXCAT FMID.

  Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
 I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these
 errors.
 What is this trying to tell me?

 sample:

 ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721)
 ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
 ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
   RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.

 SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
 HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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Re: Activation of IOCDS fails

2008-12-03 Thread SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Pete Eggebeen
If you are able to determine what IODF matches the token, you can activate
to that IODF (software only change) and then you will be in sync so that
you can make software and hardware changes.

This allows you to avoid an IPL if that is inconvenient.,




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Subject: Activation of IOCDS fails

This is the first time that I have had to update the IODF and IOCDS under
z/OS 1.7.

After activating the IODF I activate the IOCDS and it failes with the
following messages

ACTIVATE ACTIOCDS=A2
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS6
IEF196I IEF237I 6001 ALLOCATED TO SYS7
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA.
IEF196I IEF285I   IODF.IODF02  KEPT
IEF196I IEF285I   VOL SER NOS= ESCATA.
IOS500I ACTIVATE RESULTS 692
ACTIVATE FAILED - ERROR MESSAGE(S) ISSUED
NOTE = A821,PROCESSOR DEFINITION WENDYS IN CURRENTLY ACTIVE IODF
IODF.IODF02 DOES NOT MATCH CURRENT HARDWARE DEFINITION,
H/W AND S/W ARE OUT OF SYNC.
 COMPID=SC1XL
REASON=A828,KEYWORD ACTIOCDS NOT ALLOWED, ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE
POSSIBLE.
 COMPID=SC1XL
REASON=A819,ONLY SOFTWARE CHANGES ARE ALLOWED, SPECIFY SOFT FOR
CONFIRMATION.
 COMPID=SC1XL

I am at a complete loss. I use a batch job to build the IODF and IOCDS.

I can send the listing from my job offline if you want to take a look at
it.

Thanks

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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:00:33 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There is no disagreement here. Wrong sysplex parameters can lead to
database corruption, but won't preserve system from IPL. In other words
IPL will be succesful, but the RACF db will be under high risk.

True, the IPL will technically work.  Of course, you may end up with the
wrong RACF DB (if you say sysplex communication in ICHRDSNT when you
shouldn't have), and so none of the applications may work.

Some might consider that a failed IPL since you'd end up with an unusable
system at the conclusion of it.

Or with the wrong dsnames in ICHRDSNT, or the wrong sysplex communication
flag, you can also end up with an unusable system (wrong DB) or an unusable
system because you broke the DB.  Or even an unusable sysplex because you
broke the DB.

But yes, the IPL would have been successful.

And by the way, we've made that processing more robust in z/OS R10 to try to
avoid some of the problems we've seen from such incorrect parameters.  But
that won't help much until all the systems sharing a RACF database are at
z/OS R10.

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Bob Shannon
FIXCAT is a recent introduction. You can continue without change but may see 
additional error (noise) messages. PTFs are available to SMPE 3.4 to tolerate 
FIXCAT.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
Mark, do you have PTFon your SMPE 3.4 system?

FIXCAT HOLDDATA is incompatible with prior releases of SMP/E. It can only be 
processed by SMP/E 3.5. Coexistence APAR IO07480 is provided for SMP/E 3.3 and 
SMP/E 3.4 to enable those releases to silently ignore the FIXCAT HOLDs when 
they are present in the SMPHOLD file. The PTF for APAR IO07480 (PTFs UO00700 or 
UO00701) must be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E 3.4. Failure to install these 
PTFs will cause the RECEIVE command to fail with message GIM20311E and 
GIM56701E when processing SMP/E HOLDDATA, after the availability of z/OS 1.10. 
When installed, this fix will ignore FIXCAT ++HOLD statements during RECEIVE 
processing of HOLDDATA when using SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E 3.4.

The PTFs for APAR IO07480 (UO00700 and UO00701) are available in RSU0803.

Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able to process 
++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10.




Lizette


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From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMPE question

My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a piece
of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will the PTF end
up being applied if I run APPLY?

Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle new
 FIXCAT FMID.

  Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
 I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these
 errors.
 What is this trying to tell me?

 sample:

 ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721)
 ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
 ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
   RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.

 SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
 HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
No, the last RSU I applied was 0801.

I found the found the APAR in IBMLink.  But I can't tell which PTF I need.
UO00700, UO00701, or UO00702

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Mark, do you have PTFon your SMPE 3.4 system?

 FIXCAT HOLDDATA is incompatible with prior releases of SMP/E. It can only
 be processed by SMP/E 3.5. Coexistence APAR IO07480 is provided for SMP/E
 3.3 and SMP/E 3.4 to enable those releases to silently ignore the FIXCAT
 HOLDs when they are present in the SMPHOLD file. The PTF for APAR IO07480
 (PTFs UO00700 or UO00701) must be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E 3.4.
 Failure to install these PTFs will cause the RECEIVE command to fail with
 message GIM20311E and GIM56701E when processing SMP/E HOLDDATA, after the
 availability of z/OS 1.10. When installed, this fix will ignore FIXCAT
 ++HOLD statements during RECEIVE processing of HOLDDATA when using SMP/E 3.3
 or SMP/E 3.4.

 The PTFs for APAR IO07480 (UO00700 and UO00701) are available in RSU0803.

 Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able to
 process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10.




 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMPE question
 
 My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a
 piece
 of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will the PTF
 end
 up being applied if I run APPLY?
 
 Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.
 
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle new
  FIXCAT FMID.
 
   Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
  I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these
  errors.
  What is this trying to tell me?
 
  sample:
 
  ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721)
  ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
  ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.
 
  SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
  HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q
 
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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
Depending on the version of SMPE

PTF UO00700 should be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or UO00701 should be installed on  
SMP/E 3.4.

Lizette




No, the last RSU I applied was 0801.

I found the found the APAR in IBMLink.  But I can't tell which PTF I need.
UO00700, UO00701, or UO00702

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Mark, do you have PTFon your SMPE 3.4 system?

 FIXCAT HOLDDATA is incompatible with prior releases of SMP/E. It can only
 be processed by SMP/E 3.5. Coexistence APAR IO07480 is provided for SMP/E
 3.3 and SMP/E 3.4 to enable those releases to silently ignore the FIXCAT
 HOLDs when they are present in the SMPHOLD file. The PTF for APAR IO07480
 (PTFs UO00700 or UO00701) must be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E 3.4.
 Failure to install these PTFs will cause the RECEIVE command to fail with
 message GIM20311E and GIM56701E when processing SMP/E HOLDDATA, after the
 availability of z/OS 1.10. When installed, this fix will ignore FIXCAT
 ++HOLD statements during RECEIVE processing of HOLDDATA when using SMP/E 3.3
 or SMP/E 3.4.

 The PTFs for APAR IO07480 (UO00700 and UO00701) are available in RSU0803.

 Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able to
 process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10.




 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: SMPE question
 
 My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a
 piece
 of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will the PTF
 end
 up being applied if I run APPLY?
 
 Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.
 
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle new
  FIXCAT FMID.
 
   Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
  I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of these
  errors.
  What is this trying to tell me?
 
  sample:
 
  ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056) RESOLVER(UA44721)
  ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
  ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.
 
  SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
  HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to
figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.

Thanks for your help!

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Depending on the version of SMPE

 PTF UO00700 should be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or UO00701 should be installed
 on  SMP/E 3.4.

 Lizette



 
 No, the last RSU I applied was 0801.
 
 I found the found the APAR in IBMLink.  But I can't tell which PTF I need.
 UO00700, UO00701, or UO00702
 
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Mark, do you have PTFon your SMPE 3.4 system?
 
  FIXCAT HOLDDATA is incompatible with prior releases of SMP/E. It can
 only
  be processed by SMP/E 3.5. Coexistence APAR IO07480 is provided for
 SMP/E
  3.3 and SMP/E 3.4 to enable those releases to silently ignore the FIXCAT
  HOLDs when they are present in the SMPHOLD file. The PTF for APAR
 IO07480
  (PTFs UO00700 or UO00701) must be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E 3.4.
  Failure to install these PTFs will cause the RECEIVE command to fail
 with
  message GIM20311E and GIM56701E when processing SMP/E HOLDDATA, after
 the
  availability of z/OS 1.10. When installed, this fix will ignore FIXCAT
  ++HOLD statements during RECEIVE processing of HOLDDATA when using SMP/E
 3.3
  or SMP/E 3.4.
 
  The PTFs for APAR IO07480 (UO00700 and UO00701) are available in
 RSU0803.
 
  Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able to
  process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10.
 
 
 
 
  Lizette
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: SMPE question
  
  My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a
  piece
  of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will the PTF
  end
  up being applied if I run APPLY?
  
  Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.
  
  On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle
 new
   FIXCAT FMID.
  
Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
   I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of
 these
   errors.
   What is this trying to tell me?
  
   sample:
  
   ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056)
 RESOLVER(UA44721)
   ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
   ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
 RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.
  
   SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
   HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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SDSF Held queue

2008-12-03 Thread Carl Morgan
We have a user that displays a list of datasets in an output group in the Held 
queue of SDSF with a ?.  She selects a specific dataset for output by 
placing an O next to the dataset.  The entire output group goes to the 
Output queue.  I have looked at profiles and can't find what may be wrong.  
Does anybody have any ideas?

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Field, Alan C.
Even more embarrassing, it is on the first line of just about every
output page. 

TO the right on mine it shows DATE 11/14/08  TIME 14:27:02  SMP/E
35.05

SMP/E Rel 3.5 (35). 

Alan


Subject: Re: SMPE question

Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying
to
figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: strange ICHRDSNT problem

2008-12-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
 But yes, the IPL would have been successful.

I was inaccurate in my tongue in cheek question and definition of IPL.
I suppose that technically, the IPL is successful around  IEA091I
NUCLEUS 1 SELECTED or  IEA008I SYSTEM PARMS FOLLOW FOR z/OS 01.09.00
HBB7740 when NIP gets control.

I really consider a Production IPL successful quite a ways further
down when all expected applications are ready and available to the
end-users.

Among many other potential problems,  Any kind of toasted Racf DB
would not qualify :)

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Matt Dazzo
Mark, the version is displayed on the initial smpe screen (top right) on my 1.7 
system.

 Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:58 PM 
Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to
figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.

Thanks for your help!

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Depending on the version of SMPE

 PTF UO00700 should be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or UO00701 should be installed
 on  SMP/E 3.4.

 Lizette



 
 No, the last RSU I applied was 0801.
 
 I found the found the APAR in IBMLink.  But I can't tell which PTF I need.
 UO00700, UO00701, or UO00702
 
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Mark, do you have PTFon your SMPE 3.4 system?
 
  FIXCAT HOLDDATA is incompatible with prior releases of SMP/E. It can
 only
  be processed by SMP/E 3.5. Coexistence APAR IO07480 is provided for
 SMP/E
  3.3 and SMP/E 3.4 to enable those releases to silently ignore the FIXCAT
  HOLDs when they are present in the SMPHOLD file. The PTF for APAR
 IO07480
  (PTFs UO00700 or UO00701) must be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E 3.4.
  Failure to install these PTFs will cause the RECEIVE command to fail
 with
  message GIM20311E and GIM56701E when processing SMP/E HOLDDATA, after
 the
  availability of z/OS 1.10. When installed, this fix will ignore FIXCAT
  ++HOLD statements during RECEIVE processing of HOLDDATA when using SMP/E
 3.3
  or SMP/E 3.4.
 
  The PTFs for APAR IO07480 (UO00700 and UO00701) are available in
 RSU0803.
 
  Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able to
  process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10.
 
 
 
 
  Lizette
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
  Subject: Re: SMPE question
  
  My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to prevent a
  piece
  of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will the PTF
  end
  up being applied if I run APPLY?
  
  Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.
  
  On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to handle
 new
   FIXCAT FMID.
  
Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
   I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot of
 these
   errors.
   What is this trying to tell me?
  
   sample:
  
   ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056)
 RESOLVER(UA44721)
   ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN 17.
   ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN SMPHOLD.
 RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 08.
  
   SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
   HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
  Order and install SMP/E 3.5, takes less than a day outside of
processing time for Shopz to build the CBPDO.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State Univsersity


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:58 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMPE question

Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying
to
figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.

Thanks for your help!

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Depending on the version of SMPE

 PTF UO00700 should be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or UO00701 should be
installed
 on  SMP/E 3.4.

 Lizette



 
 No, the last RSU I applied was 0801.
 
 I found the found the APAR in IBMLink.  But I can't tell which PTF I
need.
 UO00700, UO00701, or UO00702
 
 On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Lizette Koehler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Mark, do you have PTFon your SMPE 3.4 system?
 
  FIXCAT HOLDDATA is incompatible with prior releases of SMP/E. It
can
 only
  be processed by SMP/E 3.5. Coexistence APAR IO07480 is provided for
 SMP/E
  3.3 and SMP/E 3.4 to enable those releases to silently ignore the
FIXCAT
  HOLDs when they are present in the SMPHOLD file. The PTF for APAR
 IO07480
  (PTFs UO00700 or UO00701) must be installed on SMP/E 3.3 or SMP/E
3.4.
  Failure to install these PTFs will cause the RECEIVE command to
fail
 with
  message GIM20311E and GIM56701E when processing SMP/E HOLDDATA,
after
 the
  availability of z/OS 1.10. When installed, this fix will ignore
FIXCAT
  ++HOLD statements during RECEIVE processing of HOLDDATA when using
SMP/E
 3.3
  or SMP/E 3.4.
 
  The PTFs for APAR IO07480 (UO00700 and UO00701) are available in
 RSU0803.
 
  Note: Users running a SMP/E release prior to 3.3 will not be able
to
  process ++HOLDs after the general availability of z/OS 1.10.
 
 
 
 
  Lizette
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Dec 3, 2008 2:20 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: SMPE question
  
  My concern here is that, as I understand it, a ++HOLD is to
prevent a
  piece
  of maintenance from being applied.  With this syntax error will
the PTF
  end
  up being applied if I run APPLY?
  
  Obviously I'm an SMPE newb.
  
  On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Matt Dazzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   You may need SMPE ver 3.5 or add required PTF's to ver 3.4 to
handle
 new
   FIXCAT FMID.
  
Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/3/2008 2:10 PM 
   I'm doing RECEIVE processing for the latest RSU and I got a lot
of
 these
   errors.
   What is this trying to tell me?
  
   sample:
  
   ++HOLD(HCYT71Q) FIXCAT FMID(HCYT71Q) REASON(AA27056)
 RESOLVER(UA44721)
   ** THERE IS A SYNTAX ERROR IN THE CONTROL STATEMENT AT COLUMN
17.
   ** THERE IS AN ERROR IN A ++HOLD MCS FOR SYSMOD HCYT71Q IN
SMPHOLD.
 RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS
08.
  
   SYSMOD  TYPE STATUS   REASON  FMID
   HCYT71Q ERR  N/A  AA27056 HCYT71Q

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Custompac Question

2008-12-03 Thread Matt Dazzo
Working on installing z1.9 and have a question pertaining to the Automatic Data 
Set Assignment panel in custompac. This is my first go around on this.
 
I have two empty 3390-9's that I am using for the install, one for target libs 
and one for dlibs. I enter these in, as displayed in the first screen shot. I 
then enter the create command, upon completion custompac adds 2 more target 
volumes and 1 more dlib volume. Can someone explain what is happening, do I 
need 3 mod-9 for the target libs and 2 for dlibs? 
Thanks.
 
 Phys.   Volume  Sequence  Device  Used +  
 Volume  TypeNumberTypeReserved
 --  --    
 TZ19P1  TARGET  T013390-9 85 %  
 Z19DLB  DLIB  D013390-9 85 %  
 
Type in CR command, results are below
 
Phys.   Volume  Sequence  Device  Used +
Volume  TypeNumberTypeReserved  
--  --      
TZ19P1  TARGETT013390-9 85 %
TARG04  TARGETT023390-9 85 %
TARG05  TARGETT033390-9  5 %
Z19DLB  DLIB  D013390-9 85 %
DLIB03  DLIB  D023390-9 23 %

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lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Carroll, William
I just tried to access the lbdsoftware.com websoft, and I receive the 'cannot 
display web page'.  Does anybody
Have any idea as to what is going on?



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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Download them all.  RECEIVE is smart enough to ignore the ones that
don't apply to you.

The SMPE version is on the top line of each listing page.  Mine says
34.23 which corresponds to 3.4

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to figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Bill - I just tried and it opened fine using this link 
http://www.lbdsoftware.com/

hth

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I just tried to access the lbdsoftware.com websoft, and I receive the 
'cannot display web page'.  Does anybody
Have any idea as to what is going on?



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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 12/3/2008 2:19:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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_http://www.lbdsoftware.com/_ (http://www.lbdsoftware.com/) 



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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace
 
 Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying
to
 figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
 running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.

It's on the title line of each page of SMP output:

PAGE 0001  - NOW SET TO GLOBAL ZONE  DATE 12/03/08  TIME
10:23:09  SMP/E 35.05   SMPLIST  OUTPUT

...^^^

-jc-

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Re: SDSF Held queue

2008-12-03 Thread Cebell, David
Assuming the output from the job is under one JOBID,
It is ALL the output that will get released.

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Subject: SDSF Held queue

We have a user that displays a list of datasets in an output group in
the Held 
queue of SDSF with a ?.  She selects a specific dataset for output by 
placing an O next to the dataset.  The entire output group goes to the

Output queue.  I have looked at profiles and can't find what may be
wrong.  
Does anybody have any ideas?

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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Lionel, I have the same problem here (NYC area), cannot load page.

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 Bill - I just tried and it opened fine using this link
 http://www.lbdsoftware.com/
 
 hth
 
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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I don't know what to say - I just checked with a co-worker and a friend 
via aim and both got it.

It could be something in the internet where you are.

I hope it clears soon

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_http://www.lbdsoftware.com/_ (http://www.lbdsoftware.com/) 



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TSSO issuing command to CICS

2008-12-03 Thread Kittendorf, Craig X.
Hi,

We are using TSSO with z/OS 1.9 and have the patches applied for v1.9.
Everything is working fine except trying to send a command to CICS/TS
3.1 from a batch job, for example:

// EXEC BATCHTMP
//SYSINDD *
OSCMD F CICS,tran
/*

The CICS log shows:

DFHAC2015 11/24/2008 11:28:24 AJD1DCTE Console 000 has not been defined
to CICS.

Has anyone found and fixed this problem?

Thanks, 
   Craig

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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Ed Philbrook
Lionel,

Can't get there from here, either.

EdP




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Bill - I just tried and it opened fine using this link 
http://www.lbdsoftware.com/

hth

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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Cebell, David
Perhaps a bad cookie?
You might try to the delete the cookie and try again.

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I don't know what to say - I just checked with a co-worker and a friend 
via aim and both got it.

It could be something in the internet where you are.

I hope it clears soon

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In a message dated 12/3/2008 2:19:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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_http://www.lbdsoftware.com/_ (http://www.lbdsoftware.com/) 



I with Bill on this one...Error can't find  site.




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Re: lbdsoftware

2008-12-03 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I've opened a trouble ticket with my hosting provider - sorry for the 
challenges as I know none of us needs yet another challenge 

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Re: CPU time/instruction table

2008-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:07:12 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil 
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...
...a production job that ran close to 24 hours CPU time...
...
he moved one statement and got the CPU time down to 2 minutes.
...

And somehow I doubt he needed accurate instruction timings
to figure out what to change.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: SDSF Held queue

2008-12-03 Thread Staller, Allan
There is an open IBM APAR on this I don't have the number handy, but
last time I checked (about mid November) it was still in open status.

HTH, 

snip
We have a user that displays a list of datasets in an output group in
the Held 
queue of SDSF with a ?.  She selects a specific dataset for output by 
placing an O next to the dataset.  The entire output group goes to the

Output queue.  I have looked at profiles and can't find what may be
wrong.  
Does anybody have any ideas?
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Re: SDSF Held queue

2008-12-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
We have a user that displays a list of datasets in an output group in the Held 
queue of SDSF with a ?.
She selects a specific dataset for output by 
placing an O next to the dataset.
The entire output group goes to the 
Output queue.
I have looked at profiles and can't find what may be wrong.  
Does anybody have any ideas?

What is the problem?
You aren't very clear.
Is it:
1. The user is touching jobs she shouldn't?
2. You are expecting only the one dsn to go to the outut queue?
3. Other?

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:58:29 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to
figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.


Mishap?  :-)

Other response seem to indicate you were referring to the SMP/E level.
I take it to mean you are looking for SMP/E to tell you the levels of
other software maintained with SMP/E.  For that you want this:

SET  BOUNDARY (GLOBAL) .
  LIST   PRODUCT .  
  LIST   FEATURE .  


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Re: SDSF Held queue

2008-12-03 Thread Staller, Allan
As of a few minutes ago:

OA25382: AFTER OA23460, USE OF THE SDSF JDS PANEL TO MODIFY A SINGLE
DATASET ATTRIBUTE CAN RESULT IN CHANGING ALL D 08/06/04 PTF PECHANGE
  

APAR status
OPEN 

Error description 
When the SDSF JDS panel is used to change attributes such
as CLASS or to purge the data set, SAPI is changing or purging
all data sets in the JOE. This has occurred when the last
data set in the JOE, or the last system data set (JESYSMSG)
is selected. Selection of other data sets (such as JESMSGLG
or JESJCL) resulted in changes to that data set only.
This has been reported after HIPER APAR OA24360 is applied.

Verification steps:
 - After OA23460 applied to 1.9 (R740)
 - Changing CLASS or Purging a data set results in changing
   or purging all data sets in the JOE
 - Specifically occurs when JESYSMSG or last
   data set in the JOE (DSID 102, 104, etc )

ADDITIONAL SYMPTOM:
When making an initial SAPI request via CTOKEN, and subsequent
requests without the CTOKEN, in a read next fashion, SAPI fails
to return any datasets in the output group after the call that
returns JESYSMSG.

Verification Steps:
 - Initiate a SAPI request via CTOKEN for a JOE that contains
   JESMSGLG, JESJCL, JESYSMSG and other sysout datasets in the
   output group.
 - Remove all selection criteria for the next request except
   SSS2SWTR on all subsequent requests.
 - Note that SSS2EODS is returned after JESYSMSG and non-JES2
   system datasets for the job are not returned as expected.
Local fix 
NA


snip
There is an open IBM APAR on this I don't have the number handy, but
last time I checked (about mid November) it was still in open status.
/snip

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Re: SDSF Held queue

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:22:26 -0600, Cebell, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Assuming the output from the job is under one JOBID,
It is ALL the output that will get released.


This used to be one of the areas that some of the SDSF competitors were
better at, but that should work fine with SDSF with anything fairly 
current. (gee... I don't even recall when this was added).  

What version of z/OS are you running?  Was the initial access to the
job from the  H panel?

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Re: SMPE question

2008-12-03 Thread Mark Pace
Mark -
Thanks.  That was close to what I was looking for.  Here is what I am trying
to figure out.  This is from the APAR to fix the holddata problem

*Applicable component levels* RF00 PSY
UO00700https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs=UO00700
  UP08/01/28
P F801 RG00 PSY
UO00701https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs=UO00701
  UP08/01/28
P F801 RG11 PSY
UO00702https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/ordermedia/shopCart?ptfs=UO00702
  UP08/01/28
P F801
How would I determine which of these 3 PTFs apply to my system?  I don't see
anything like RF00, RG00, or RG11 in the list I created from your example.



On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:58:29 -0500, Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, that part I knew.  The embarrassing part is that I'm still trying to
 figure out how to get SMPE to tell me what versions of software I'm
 running.  It was so much easier in VSE.  MSHP RETRACE.
 

 Mishap?  :-)

 Other response seem to indicate you were referring to the SMP/E level.
 I take it to mean you are looking for SMP/E to tell you the levels of
 other software maintained with SMP/E.  For that you want this:

 SET  BOUNDARY (GLOBAL) .
  LIST   PRODUCT .
  LIST   FEATURE .


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