ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread SrinivasG
Hi,

I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON / 
Register Data Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:

ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2009
$HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
 TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   NAME=UNKNOWN
   DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
   AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
 2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
 4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
 6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
 8: /   9: /018FB920
 A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
 C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
 E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
 IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
 $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED


I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.

I have run the SVS steps successfully:
IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC

My IEASVC00 is
SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
TYPE(2)
SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
TYPE(4)
 BOTTOM OF DATA ***

I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB

The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
   MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)

IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.

What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Srinivas G


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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:06:20 +0530 SrinivasG sriniv...@infosys.com wrote:

:I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON / 
Register Data Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:

:ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2009
:$HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
:IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
:SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
: TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
: PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
:   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
:   NAME=UNKNOWN
:   DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
:   AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
: 2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
: 4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
: 6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
: 8: /   9: /018FB920
: A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
: C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
: E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
:  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
: IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
: $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED

:I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.

:I have run the SVS steps successfully:
:IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
:IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC

:My IEASVC00 is
:SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
:SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
:SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
:TYPE(2)
:SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
:TYPE(4)
: BOTTOM OF DATA ***
:
:I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB

:The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
:INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
:   MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)

:IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.

:What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.

x'CA' is SVC 202.

Did you re-IPL? Check your NIP messages.

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T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi,

We are planning two replace two z890 with one z10BC with a capacity equivalent 
to the two z890’s.

T-Rex is currently licensed on only one z890, and Dino software want a hefty 
upgrade fee.

Can anyone recommend a replacement for T-Rex.

We use it for catalog backups and for getting rid of various orphaned files.

TIA

Gadi


לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם 
החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו 
החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) 
המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, 
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Re: z/VM GDDM install

2009-09-10 Thread J D Cassidy
Hello Alan,


appreciate the advice, thank you. Bloody hard way to get a manual though...



Regards,


JC


= On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:43:57 +0200, J D Cassidy s...@jdcassidy.net wrote:
=
=I am looking for a document with the title How to activate GDDM-REXX
=LY33-6080.
=
=The various references to the above on IBM's websites comes back with
='document not found'..
=
= Since you are licensed and the product is still in service, open a PMR and
= ask for a copy, indicating that you are unable to order it via the IBM
= Publications website.
=
= Let the support team do the walking for you.
=
= Alan Altmark
= z/VM Development
= IBM
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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread SrinivasG
I have already IPld. No clues from the NIP messages.

Regards,
Srinivas G


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Binyamin Dissen
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:06:20 +0530 SrinivasG sriniv...@infosys.com wrote:

:I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON / 
Register Data Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:

:ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2009
:$HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
:IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
:SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
: TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
: PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
:   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
:   NAME=UNKNOWN
:   DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
:   AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
: 2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
: 4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
: 6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
: 8: /   9: /018FB920
: A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
: C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
: E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
:  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
: IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
: $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED

:I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.

:I have run the SVS steps successfully:
:IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
:IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC

:My IEASVC00 is
:SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
:SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
:SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
:TYPE(2)
:SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
:TYPE(4)
: BOTTOM OF DATA ***
:
:I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB

:The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
:INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
:   MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)

:IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.

:What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.

x'CA' is SVC 202.

Did you re-IPL? Check your NIP messages.

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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:05:50 +0530 SrinivasG sriniv...@infosys.com wrote:

:I have already IPld. No clues from the NIP messages.

Did you CLPA? Show the NIP messages

Go to TSO and do

TEST 'SYS1.LINKLIB(IEFBR14)'
l 10.?+c8?+84?+650? xc l(256)
END

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Of Binyamin Dissen
:Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:14 PM
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:Subject: Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (
:
:On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:06:20 +0530 SrinivasG sriniv...@infosys.com wrote:
:
::I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON / 
Register Data Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:
:
::ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 2009
::$HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
::IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
::SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
:: TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
:: PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
::   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
::   NAME=UNKNOWN
::   DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
::   AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
:: 2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
:: 4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
:: 6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
:: 8: /   9: /018FB920
:: A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
:: C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
:: E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
::  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
:: IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
:: $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED
:
::I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.
:
::I have run the SVS steps successfully:
::IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
::IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC
:
::My IEASVC00 is
::SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
::SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
::SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
::TYPE(2)
::SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
::TYPE(4)
:: BOTTOM OF DATA ***
::
::I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB
:
::The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
::INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
::   MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)
:
::IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.
:
::What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.
:
:x'CA' is SVC 202.
:
:Did you re-IPL? Check your NIP messages.

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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just a simple question.  In SVC00 I am not sure, but should the SVC numbers
be in order?

I always have mine from 200 to 255 in sequence.  Your display looks like
they go in reverse order 255-200.

What version of IMS are you running? What version of operating system? z/OS
Vxxx

And to clarify, when you scanned syslog you did not see the phrase SVC202 or
IGC0020B or IGC0202 in any of the text?



Lizette


 Hi,
 
 I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON /
Register Data
 Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:
 
 ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10,
 2009
 $HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
  TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
NAME=UNKNOWN
DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
  2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
  4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
  6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
  8: /   9: /018FB920
  A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
  C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
  E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
   END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
  IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
  $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED
 
 
 I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.
 
 I have run the SVS steps successfully:
 IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
 IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC
 
 My IEASVC00 is
 SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
 SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
 SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
 TYPE(2)
 SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
 TYPE(4)
  BOTTOM OF DATA ***
 
 I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB
 
 The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
 INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)
 
 IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.
 
 What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you have Mark Zelden's REXX IPLINFO you can look at the system after the
IPL and see whether or not MLPA was used, what SVCs are there, and so on to
ensure the parts are correct at IPL.

Next verify the Nuc
Attention: The SYS1.NUCLEUS must not have secondary extents. z/OS cannot
recognize secondary extents.

Lizette


 
 Just a simple question.  In SVC00 I am not sure, but should the SVC
numbers
 be in order?
 
 I always have mine from 200 to 255 in sequence.  Your display looks like
 they go in reverse order 255-200.
 
 What version of IMS are you running? What version of operating system?
z/OS
 Vxxx
 
 And to clarify, when you scanned syslog you did not see the phrase SVC202
or
 IGC0020B or IGC0202 in any of the text?
 
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON /
 Register Data
  Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:
 
  ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER
 10,
  2009
  $HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
  SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
   TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
   PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
 NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
 NAME=UNKNOWN
 DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
 AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
   2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
   4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
   6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
   8: /   9: /018FB920
   A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
   C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
   E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
   IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
   $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED
 
 
  I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.
 
  I have run the SVS steps successfully:
  IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
  IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC
 
  My IEASVC00 is
  SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
  SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
  SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
  TYPE(2)
  SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
  TYPE(4)
   BOTTOM OF DATA ***
 
  I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB
 
  The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
  INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
 MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)
 
  IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.
 
  What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 -
 

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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread SrinivasG
Hi,

Thanks everyone. There was a syntax error in the IEASVC00 Member. I removed the 
last line with *** and IPLd.
I am now able to do the INITRCON.

Thanks everyone who replied. Even the local IBM folks could not help.

Special thanks to Lizette and Binyamin !!

Regards,
Srinivas G



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Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:28 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

Just a simple question.  In SVC00 I am not sure, but should the SVC numbers
be in order?

I always have mine from 200 to 255 in sequence.  Your display looks like
they go in reverse order 255-200.

What version of IMS are you running? What version of operating system? z/OS
Vxxx

And to clarify, when you scanned syslog you did not see the phrase SVC202 or
IGC0020B or IGC0202 in any of the text?



Lizette


 Hi,
 
 I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON /
Register Data
 Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:
 
 ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10,
 2009
 $HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
  TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
NAME=UNKNOWN
DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
  2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
  4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
  6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
  8: /   9: /018FB920
  A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
  C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
  E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
   END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
  IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
  $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED
 
 
 I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.
 
 I have run the SVS steps successfully:
 IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
 IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC
 
 My IEASVC00 is
 SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
 SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
 SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
 TYPE(2)
 SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
 TYPE(4)
  BOTTOM OF DATA ***
 
 I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB
 
 The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
 INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)
 
 IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.
 
 What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.

That is not enough.  If you just copied it in there you still need to
get it loaded.   We use NUCLSTxx in .IPLPARM i.e. 


BROWSESYS2.IPLPARM(NUCLST00) 
 Command === 
* 
INCLUDE  IGC236   
EXCLUDE  IGC242   
INCLUDE  IGC251   
INCLUDE  DFHHPSVC 
 B

So you have to have the type 2 SVC defined in IEASVCxx, loaded into
memory one way to do this without linkedit into the nucleus using
NUCLSTxx.

BROWSESYS1.PARMLIB(IEASVC00) - 01.12 CHARS 'IM
 Command ===  Scroll =
   
  SVCPARM 236, /* IMS SEE ALSO #255   IN USE  PAIR   */
   REPLACE,/*SVCTABLE ENTRY WILL BE UPDATED  */
   TYPE(2),/*SVC TYPE*/
   APF(NO),/*PROGRAM INVOKING SVC AUTHORIZED?*/
   NPRMPT(NO)  /*CAN SVC NOT BE PRE-EMPTED?  */
   
  SVCPARM 240, /* SYNCSORT FOR Z/OS  */
   REPLACE,/*SVCTABLE ENTRY WILL BE UPDATED  */
   TYPE(3),/*SVC TYPE*/
   APF(NO),/*PROGRAM INVOKING SVC AUTHORIZED?*/
   NPRMPT(NO)  /*CAN SVC NOT BE PRE-EMPTED?  */
   
  SVCPARM 250, /* IMS SEE ALSO #251   RESERVE PAIR   */
   REPLACE,/*SVCTABLE ENTRY WILL BE UPDATED  */
   TYPE(4),/*SVC TYPE*/
   APF(NO),/*PROGRAM INVOKING SVC AUTHORIZED?*/
   NPRMPT(NO)  /*CAN SVC NOT BE PRE-EMPTED?  */
   
   SVCPARM 251,/*IMS SEE ALSO #250   RESERVE PAIR*/
REPLACE,   /*SVCTABLE ENTRY WILL BE UPDATED  */
TYPE(2),   /*SVC TYPE*/
APF(NO),   /*PROGRAM INVOKING SVC AUTHORIZED?*/
NPRMPT(NO) /*CAN SVC NOT BE PRE-EMPTED?  */
   
/* SVC 254 IS USED BY CA1 AND IS DYNAMICALLY INSTALLED VIA CAIRIMP   */
   
  SVCPARM 255, /* IMS SEE ALSO #236   IN USE  PAIR   */
   REPLACE,/*SVCTABLE ENTRY WILL BE UPDATED  */
   TYPE(4),/*SVC TYPE*/
   APF(NO),/*PROGRAM INVOKING SVC AUTHORIZED?*/
   NPRMPT(NO)  /*CAN SVC NOT BE PRE-EMPTED?  */
 Bottom of Data ***





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Subject: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

Hi,

I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON /
Register Data Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:

ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10,
2009
$HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
 TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   NAME=UNKNOWN
   DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
   AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
 2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
 4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
 6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
 8: /   9: /018FB920
 A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
 C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
 E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
  END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
 IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
 $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED


I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.

I have run the SVS steps successfully:
IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC

My IEASVC00 is
SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
SVCPARM 

Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread SrinivasG
I have found this error during IPL:

IEE252I MEMBER IEASVC00 FOUND IN CPAC.PARMLIB
IEA826I IEASVC00: SVC215: TYPE 6 ROUTINE DFHHPSVC NOT FOUND.
IEA826I IEASVC00: SVC203: TYPE 2 ROUTINE IGC203 NOT FOUND.
IEA823I IEASVC00: SVC202: SYNTAX ERROR AT .

IMS is 10.1 and ZOS is 1.10



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Subject: Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

Just a simple question.  In SVC00 I am not sure, but should the SVC numbers
be in order?

I always have mine from 200 to 255 in sequence.  Your display looks like
they go in reverse order 255-200.

What version of IMS are you running? What version of operating system? z/OS
Vxxx

And to clarify, when you scanned syslog you did not see the phrase SVC202 or
IGC0020B or IGC0202 in any of the text?



Lizette


 Hi,
 
 I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON /
Register Data
 Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:
 
 ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10,
 2009
 $HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
 IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
 SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
  TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
  PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
NAME=UNKNOWN
DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
  2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
  4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
  6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
  8: /   9: /018FB920
  A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
  C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
  E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
   END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
  IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
  $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED
 
 
 I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.
 
 I have run the SVS steps successfully:
 IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
 IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC
 
 My IEASVC00 is
 SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
 SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
 SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
 TYPE(2)
 SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
 TYPE(4)
  BOTTOM OF DATA ***
 
 I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB
 
 The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
 INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)
 
 IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.
 
 What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Re: ABEND=SFCA during IMS10 installation (

2009-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
And one last thought.  Why did you code the SVC statement in 2 lines.  I was
not aware you could do that,  I did not see any information on continuation
lines for SVCxx.

In the MVS Init and Tuning it states

If you use multiple SVCPARM statements for the same SVC number, the
first valid statement is processed. The rest are ignored.

Which could mean that you are not truly getting a TYPE2 SVC but a maybe
something else.  Try putting SVC00 to use one line for your svcs and reipl.
See if that makes a difference.

Lizette


 
 Just a simple question.  In SVC00 I am not sure, but should the SVC
numbers
 be in order?
 
 I always have mine from 200 to 255 in sequence.  Your display looks like
 they go in reverse order 255-200.
 
 What version of IMS are you running? What version of operating system?
z/OS
 Vxxx
 
 And to clarify, when you scanned syslog you did not see the phrase SVC202
or
 IGC0020B or IGC0202 in any of the text?
 
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I am getting the following error while Initrcon step(Initialize RECON /
 Register Data
  Bases) of IMS IVP installation. This is the abend I get:
 
  ICH70001I IBMUSER  LAST ACCESS AT 11:21:24 ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER
 10,
  2009
  $HASP373 IV3F102J STARTED - INIT 1- CLASS N - SYS MVS1
  IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT  814
  SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=FCA
   TIME=11.57.15  SEQ=00054  CPU=  ASID=002C
   PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  070C1000   818FBF4C  ILC 2  INTC 0D
 NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
 NAME=UNKNOWN
 DATA AT PSW  018FBF46 - 00181610  0A0D4110  016D182F
 AR/GR 0: 8A2AA780/8000   1: /80FCA000
   2: /008CFBF0   3: /00FDCEC0
   4: /008FF048   5: /008FDBC0
   6: /818FBF26   7: /00FC4580
   8: /   9: /018FB920
   A: /008FDC80   B: /7F4E0090
   C: /0134A3B8   D: /0A816420
   E: /00FEC100   F: 0102/
END OF SYMPTOM DUMP
   IEF450I IV3F102J D INITRCON - ABEND=SFCA U REASON=
   $HASP395 IV3F102J ENDED
 
 
  I am suspecting its related to SVC steps as part of IVP setup.
 
  I have run the SVS steps successfully:
  IV3D209T  Install TYPE 2 SVC
  IV3D210T  Link-edit TYPE 4 SVC
 
  My IEASVC00 is
  SVCPARM 216,REPLACE,TYPE(3),EPNAME(DFHCSVC) /* CICS(CSVC) */
  SVCPARM 215,REPLACE,TYPE(6),EPNAME(DFHHPSVC)  /*  ONLY FOR HPO*/
  SVCPARM 203 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 2 SVC */
  TYPE(2)
  SVCPARM 202 REPLACE, /* IMS TYPE 4 SVC FOR DBRC */
  TYPE(4)
   BOTTOM OF DATA ***
 
  I have appended the SYS1.NUCLEUS with IMS1010.MLPALIB
 
  The CPAC.PARMLIB(IEALPA00)
  INCLUDE LIBRARY(IMS1010.MLPALIB) VOLUME(Z11IM1)
 MODULES(IGC0020B,DFSAFMD0)
 
  IGC203 is in SYS1.NUCLEUS dataset.
 
  What could I have done wrong? Any help is greatly appreciated.
 

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Re: Library Lookaside

2009-09-10 Thread Peter Relson
For those who have played with directory caching of non-load libraries, you
must not be using PDSEs. It would not work.  I can't speak for what someone
who does not own this component stated about its behavior in the past, I
can only speak towards what its (unchanged) implementation is.
Non-load-library PDSEs have never been accepted.

Since the creation of PDSEs, LLA has had code that determines if a PDSE is
a load library according to whatever criteria DFSMS uses to classify it
as such. If a PDSE is not marked as a load library, LLA will reject it.

Consider a PDSE that is something like VB 255 and contains CLISTs. LLA will
reject this PDSE with a message such as
SY1  CSV242I INVALID DATA SET ORGANIZATION FOR LLA DSN: RELSON.CLIST.PDSE

From the book:
Explanation: Library lookaside (LLA) received a request to manage
sequential data set dsname or partitioned data set extended (PDSE)
data-only library dsname. LLA manages only partitioned data sets (PDSs), or
partitioned data sets extended (PDSEs) that contain program objects

Could that restriction be lifted? Maybe. But doing so would likely require
at least a user-group-submitted requirement. Apparently there has been no
such demand to lift the restriction so the folks who have been using LLA
for non-load libraries for years must not be using PDSEs for this purpose.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: Are compression services (CMPSERVS) eligible for zIIP/zAAP execution?

2009-09-10 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
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 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Are compression services (CMPSERVS) eligible for
zIIP/zAAP
 execution?
 
 Peter,
 
 Just because a service can be eligible for a zIIP does not mean it
will be
 offloaded to one if you obtain a zIIP processor. There are the
 environmental restrictions. The eligible workload must be run in an
SRB
 enclave that is identified as being zIIP eligible. If the batch job
that
 is doing a lot compression is a home-grown utility, you may have a
hard
 time getting it zIIP eligible. If the batch job is executing a Strobe
 utility, then you will need to check with the Strobe people to find
out if
 they have made it zIIP eligible or not.

I guess I did not make the situation clear enough.  This application
does not directly use compression calls, but the sequential and VSAM
files that it reads and writes have an assigned DATACLAS that puts them
in Extended, Compressed SMS pools.  So the compression and decompression
are being done by the operating system, not by the application.

CMPSERVS is the portion of the operating system that is performing these
functions on behalf of the application.  I see these routines named in
the Strobe performance report.  They are not part of Strobe, they are
part of the operating system.  For this application, as measured by
Strobe, they are consuming 52% of the used CPU time.

So, my question is, are the operating system compression/decompression
routines eligible for zIIP/zAAP execution, if such engines are
available?

Peter


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Re: Library Lookaside

2009-09-10 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM


Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote in message
news:of0f711657.9d415525-on8525762d.003f1e10-8525762d.00470...@us.ibm.c
om...
 For those who have played with directory caching of non-load
libraries, you
 must not be using PDSEs. It would not work.  I can't speak for what
someone
 who does not own this component stated about its behavior in the past,
I
 can only speak towards what its (unchanged) implementation is.
 Non-load-library PDSEs have never been accepted.
 
 Since the creation of PDSEs, LLA has had code that determines if a
PDSE is
 a load library according to whatever criteria DFSMS uses to classify
it
 as such. If a PDSE is not marked as a load library, LLA will reject
it.
 
 Consider a PDSE that is something like VB 255 and contains CLISTs. LLA
will
 reject this PDSE with a message such as
 SY1  CSV242I INVALID DATA SET ORGANIZATION FOR LLA DSN:
RELSON.CLIST.PDSE
 
 From the book:
 Explanation: Library lookaside (LLA) received a request to manage
 sequential data set dsname or partitioned data set extended (PDSE)
 data-only library dsname. LLA manages only partitioned data sets
(PDSs), or
 partitioned data sets extended (PDSEs) that contain program objects
 
 Could that restriction be lifted? Maybe. But doing so would likely
require
 at least a user-group-submitted requirement. Apparently there has been
no
 such demand to lift the restriction so the folks who have been using
LLA
 for non-load libraries for years must not be using PDSEs for this
purpose.
 
 Peter Relson

Is there any reason to lift this restriction? PDSE has its own directory
caching, so IMO there is no need to have LLA do it also.

Kees.
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Re: Seperate LPARs for Prod and Test or a single LPAR for both

2009-09-10 Thread Enrique Montero
Hi team,

There are more PROs when having separated LPARs for Test and Prod, the
most important is that you can test products, configurations, home made
applications and more in the TEST Lpar without disturbing the customer
service in the PROD Lpar, also you can migrate/upgrade the OS without
shutting down the production lpar. Most companies have this minimal
configuration with separated LPARs, also, if you have enough memory and
processor, should be better to have 3 LPARs, (TEST,CERT,PROD), the CERT
LPAR is for certification purposes.

SYA,
Enrique Montero. 

El mié, 09-09-2009 a las 09:53 -0700, Natarajan Mohan escribió:

 GSG,
 
 There is no reason to run system in basic mode anymore. I am sure you have 
 configured your system in LPAR Mode. I don't think one answer would suffice 
 for your request. What type of machine are you running on? how many mips? 
 uni-processor?
 
 In the minimum you would need a system test environment and 
 production/development environment irrespective of how small your machine is. 
 This would enable you to test the software patches and migrate to production 
 with minimal impact.
 
 Natarajan
 
  gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com 9/8/2009 5:39 PM 
 Can everyone share some Pros/Cons  on having seperate LPARs for Prod and 
 Test and also Pros/Cons for having a single LPAR that Prod and Test will 
 share.  All feedback is welcome.
 
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Re: SMS migration concern 1.9 and 1.10 mixed level SMS translate, validate, activate on 1.9 caused storage leak in SMS leading to IPL

2009-09-10 Thread Knutson, Sam
PTFs are available now

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA28998 

Thanks, Sam 

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OA28998 


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Hi,

Anyone know of an APAR for this or a documented migration action or
existing toleration service?   



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User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Knigge

All,

I've been googl'ing for a while now but in vain so far: Is it somehow 
possible to write user-defined line commands?


I want to enter FOO in front of a line in EDIT and then a self-written 
routine should be fired up that handles the line...



Any way?

Thank you,
Michael

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Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread John P Kalinich
Michael Knigge of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 09/10/2009 09:53:51 AM:

 All,

 I've been googl'ing for a while now but in vain so far: Is it somehow
 possible to write user-defined line commands?

 I want to enter FOO in front of a line in EDIT and then a self-written
 routine should be fired up that handles the line...

 Any way?

IBM has this offering.  http://tinyurl.com/muuh7d

Regards,
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Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors

2009-09-10 Thread Ken Porowski
For a non-IBM vendor that does sub-capacity licensing how do you get the
data to them? 
Send them the SCRT .csv file? 
Send them a number and hope they trust you? 
Do they actually alter the charges on a monthly basis? 
If using SCRT data is it product specific (e.g. for a DB2 tool you use
SCRT data for DB2) or just based on overall (e.g. z/OS) usage?
Or is it some other method altogether? 
I have a new vendor that I asked the question of sub-capacity licensing
and they want me to provide more details on the model. They are
unfamiliar with SCRT and sub-capacity/workload licensing but are willing
to listen. I have to admit that I currently do not have
sub-capacity/workload pricing on any non-IBM products so I just want to
get a feel for how it normally works.
Thanks all 
Ken Porowski 
AVP Systems Software 
CIT Group 
E: ken.porow...@cit.com 


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Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 22:55:01 -0500, Brian Westerman
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com wrote:

Sorry for the blatant plug, but there also is SyzCmdZ which contains all of
the features of each of the command scripting products mentioned and many
more.

Info at WWW.SyzygyInc.NET

Brian

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TIM/TAM - using reports for Role adminisitration

2009-09-10 Thread Bruce Wheatley
Wondering what report I can use that will capture any administraion done to 
roles, e.g., adding, deleting etc. 

Note, I need the report that shows the administration of the role itself not 
the 
one that shows when users are added or removed from roles.

TIA

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TEST geographically separate from PROD

2009-09-10 Thread Frank Swarbrick
The whole combined versus separate TEST and PROD LPARs was interesting.  I 
can't imagine not having them separate (with shared DASD for at least the load 
libraries), but then it's just what I'm used to.

So here's a question...  Anyone out there have DEV/TEST not only in a separate 
LPAR, or even a separate machine, but in a separate data center?  We have our 
primary data center in Lakewood, CO (near Denver) and our alternate data 
center (DR site) in Scottsdale, AZ.  So about 1000 miles apart.  Management 
has the idea that we should move the applications development LPAR to the ADC.  
As an applications developer this makes me more than a bit nervous.  Does 
anyone do this?  Is a GDPS essentially required to make this workable?  We 
currently do DASD replication to our ADC using DS8100s.

One other thing I'm concerned about is TN3270 response time.  I feel that 
logging on to work from home is too slow, and I only live 8 miles away.

Thanks,
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Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:08:48 -0500, John P Kalinich jkali...@csc.com wrote:

Michael Knigge of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 09/10/2009 09:53:51 AM:

 All,

 I've been googl'ing for a while now but in vain so far: Is it somehow
 possible to write user-defined line commands?

 I want to enter FOO in front of a line in EDIT and then a self-written
 routine should be fired up that handles the line...

 Any way?

IBM has this offering.  http://tinyurl.com/muuh7d

Regards,
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Re: T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:41:25 +0300, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503;
#1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote:

Hi,

We are planning two replace two z890 with one z10BC with a capacity
equivalent to the two z890’s.

T-Rex is currently licensed on only one z890, and Dino software want a
hefty upgrade fee.

Can anyone recommend a replacement for T-Rex.

We use it for catalog backups and for getting rid of various orphaned files.


Mainstar Catalog Recovery Plus.  This is now a Rocket Software product.
Also there is or was Softworks Catalog Solutions (formerly VSAM Mechanic).
I haven't heard much about that one in a while and not sure if it is still
around or was sold / renamed.  

We sure CR+, but I think T-REXX has a good product also.  Perhaps you
can negotiate a LPAR pricing deal with then.  In other words, only pay for the
LPAR(s) you run it on based on their size and not the entire box.   If they 
know you are going to replace them, they may be more open to doing so.

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Re: TEST geographically separate from PROD

2009-09-10 Thread Staller, Allan
So here's a question...  Anyone out there have DEV/TEST not only in a
separate LPAR, or even a separate machine, but in a separate data
center?  We have our primary data center in Lakewood, CO (near Denver)
and our alternate data center (DR site) in Scottsdale, AZ.  So about
1000 miles apart.  Management has the idea that we should move the
applications development LPAR to the ADC.  As an applications developer
this makes me more than a bit nervous.  Does anyone do this?  Is a GDPS
essentially required to make this workable?  We currently do DASD
replication to our ADC using DS8100s.

I have seen this done.

The actual decision to support a remote development site is more of a
financial one than anything else. A GDPS is a consideration only if the
application availability demands it. Separate sites can work fine in
this situation.

IMO, one of the *BIG* requirements to a successful implementation of
this type is communications band width.
Not only for the teleprocessing traffic, but also for file transfers and
(in the case of GDPS) DASD replication.

WARNING Will Robinson WARNING High bandwidth communication can get
*VERY* expensive.


One other thing I'm concerned about is TN3270 response time.  I feel
that logging on to work from home is too slow, and I only live 8 miles
away.

This is probably a function of your ISP and/or dial-up connection.
Remote access in these days and times is nearly as good as local access.

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Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors

2009-09-10 Thread Kelman, Tom
It would depend on the vendor.  I assume that you are currently on VWLC
(i.e. sub-capacity) pricing with your IBM software, so you're alreay
sending the SCRT reports to IBM.  We also have a sub-capacity pricing
license with one of our vendors and we just copy them on the SCRT
reports.  Since the product is an always running, system level product
they base their charges on the z/OS MSUs reported, not any of the
sub-system MSUs.  We don't have one with SAS, but I know their model is
that you'd run SAS on a smaller LPAR and they charge you for the size of
the LPAR.  So, as I said, it depends on the vendor.  It the vendor that
you're discussing this with hasn't done it before, you're breaking new
ground with them.  Good luck.

Tom Kelman
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 Subject: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
 
 For a non-IBM vendor that does sub-capacity licensing how do you get
the
 data to them?
 Send them the SCRT .csv file?
 Send them a number and hope they trust you?
 Do they actually alter the charges on a monthly basis?
 If using SCRT data is it product specific (e.g. for a DB2 tool you use
 SCRT data for DB2) or just based on overall (e.g. z/OS) usage?
 Or is it some other method altogether?
 I have a new vendor that I asked the question of sub-capacity
licensing
 and they want me to provide more details on the model. They are
 unfamiliar with SCRT and sub-capacity/workload licensing but are
willing
 to listen. I have to admit that I currently do not have
 sub-capacity/workload pricing on any non-IBM products so I just want
to
 get a feel for how it normally works.
 Thanks all
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Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors

2009-09-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ken Porowski wrote:

For a non-IBM vendor that does sub-capacity licensing how do you get the
data to them? 
Send them the SCRT .csv file? 
Send them a number and hope they trust you? 
Do they actually alter the charges on a monthly basis? 
If using SCRT data is it product specific (e.g. for a DB2 tool you use

SCRT data for DB2) or just based on overall (e.g. z/OS) usage?
Or is it some other method altogether? 
I have a new vendor that I asked the question of sub-capacity licensing

and they want me to provide more details on the model. They are
unfamiliar with SCRT and sub-capacity/workload licensing but are willing
to listen. I have to admit that I currently do not have
sub-capacity/workload pricing on any non-IBM products so I just want to
get a feel for how it normally works.
  


IBM SCRT does not support ISV products. Period.

Some ISVs have been able to get customers to agree to tie certain ISV 
products to SCRT-supported IBM products. For example, they could agree 
to tie some IMS tool from the ISV to IMS from IBM. With this agreement 
in place, the same SCRT report sent to IBM can also be sent to the ISV. 
This works because IMS is supported by SCRT.


Some customers will not agree to this marriage. Suppose a customer 
wants to run the ISV IMS tool in only a subset of LPARs running IMS. 
Now, the SCRT reports become worthless unless the customer is willing to 
perform a second SCRT run that includes SMF records from only the subset 
of LPARs on which the ISV IMS tool is licensed. Multiply this extra work 
by potentially dozens of ISV products and this can become a considerable 
burden on the customer.


There are people within IBM that would like to enhance SCRT to be able 
to handle non-IBM products. With just a little bit of work, SCRT's 
hard-coded product tables could be externalized and generalized and SCRT 
could be made to produce different sub-reports for different 
vendors--IBM being just one. But, this work needs justification like all 
development projects. If customers thought this was an important, and 
submitted a requirement, this might happen. Otherwise, it's unlikely...


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Re: TSSO use of NETVIEW

2009-09-10 Thread Chris Mason
First of all I should say thank you to Gerhard Postpischil for providing some 
helpful background as to what TSSO is all about.

Gerhard has sent me a private message expressing umbrage over my post and 
accusing me of not reading his post - the usual symptom of someone who has 
actually failed to read the post about which he/she is commenting!

In case there are others who haven't understood, I'd better spell it out.

The relative cost of NetView/NCCF and TSSO are not relevant. What is 
relevant is function. I did *not* - repeat ***not*** - intend to imply that 
NCCF - and early NetView - had automation capabilities comparable to those 
TSSO appears to have had. That is what that cost comparison comment 
implies - but Gerhard has not to be able to see.

In the days of NCCF - and I think NOSP before it - and the first release of 
NetView, a semi-automation capability existed after the clist language was 
introduced. I describe it as semi-automation in that the operator had to keep 
an eye out for unsolicited messages betokening a problem. He/she then had to 
enter the name of the clist and commands could be issued - with name 
substitution from clist operands. If any delay was necessary, the operator 
could be instructed for which solicited messages to look out and what new 
clist commands to enter. Crude or what?

It would appear that during these dark days, TSSO offered a cleverer way 
which included actually trapping messages and entering commands fashioned 
by the information trapped - if I have understood the TSSO of the early '80s 
correctly.

Turning to my post - *in full* - I used the crucial word insist, the 
significance of which escaped Gerhard. Clearly TSSO could be used 
independently of this NCCF product with its hobbled automation capabilities
[1]. TSSO is described as allowing itself to be invoked from NCCF/NetView as 
a command processor, that is, TSSO has been extended to use one of the 
APIs which characterised NCCF - and the command facility component of 
NetView - as an enabling environment.

Thus TSSO could be used even where the installation's style was to insist 
or require that *all* automation be performed from within NCCF or NetView. 
The short period referred to the time from TSSO being available as an 
NCCF command processor to the time when everything that TSSO could do 
could also be done using NetView's native functions which - if my presentation 
notes are to be believed - happened with NetView V1R2.

Actually, it's possible that period was not so short. It could be something 
like 
1980 to 1987, my guessed dates for NCCF (V1R2?) offering command 
processors to NetView V1R2.

I hope that clears up any confusion - or maybe just adds to it!

Chris Mason

[1] Fortunately I retain my presentations on the topic of NetView clists and I 
see that a level of automation which I believe can be compared to that 
possible with TSSO appears in NetView V1R2 with the introduction of 
the message automation table. Since this is not NetView V1R1, I have 
to copy the hobbled adjective to NetView from NCCF.

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:32:04 -0500, Chris Mason 
chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote:

I thought I hadn't been as stupid as is here implied!

  if you insist on doing all your automation though NetView's command
facility

is what I said before the part quoted.

Some royal misrepresentation through selective quoting going on here!

There is a lot - did I say a lot? - to be said for quoting the *whole* of the
referenced post even when picking out some parts - as I always do.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 20:05:35 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil
gerh...@valley.net wrote:

Chris Mason wrote:
 comprehensive functions for my silent running automation. In other 
words
 there may have been a short period in the history of NCCF/NetView when
 TSSO offered the cleverest way - maybe the only way - decently to
 automate MVS, that is, better than using the internal reader for 
commands
 and a wait program.

The first version of TSSO appeared not too long after TSO. I am
not certain who the original author was, but recall seeing Bill
Godfrey's name in the documentation. That version allowed the
operators to issue (some) TSO commands from a console.  In the
mid or late seventies, Marc Share at Bell Labs presented an
updated version that provided the capability to intercept
console messages, and take some action (message, OS command,
etc.); the nice part was the extraction by position or word
count from the message, and insertion into an MVS or TSO
command. When I was at AMS, and several later centers, I used
this to automate just about everything possible (e.g., VTAM line
and terminal error recovery, deletion of unwanted messages,
etc.). IIRC, the early versions of NETVIEW/NCCF were a
chargeable item, so TSSO was it. And it certainly was more
flexible than (the early) linked exits, because it was table
driven and the tables could be reloaded on the fly.

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT


Re: CONVERTV to NONSMS error

2009-09-10 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2009-09-09 at 12:17, concerning CONVERTV to NONSMS error, Jim 
McAlpine ji..mca...@gm..com wrote to IBM-Main:

 I'm getting the following error converting a volume to nonsms -
 
 ADR497E (001)-CATLG(05), A CATALOG ERROR OCCURRED WHILE CONVERTING 
CLUSTER
 DB2C.DSNDBC.DSNDB06.DSNOFX02.I0001.A001 TO NONSMS.
  RETURN CODE IS 048, REASON CODE IS EC-128
 the IDC3009I message says the following -
*128* *Explanation:* An SMS storage class construct cannot have a
 length of zero. 
 which isn't at all helpful.

Jim:  does the VSam file have attributes, such as Extended 
Format/Addressing, that requires SMS management.  It might be an 
indirect message saying, I can't catalogue this thing without a 
StorClas value.  

I encountered this type of problem when I accidentally moved a bunch 
of TableSpaces to an SMS pool then couldn't move them back with 
utilities.  The solution (used) required them to be re-orged which 
creates a new dataset.

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Re: TEST geographically separate from PROD

2009-09-10 Thread Enrique Montero
Hi Frank,

   Usually and is the way i've used, in the same location, separated
machines for prod and test. But, having them in separated location,
maybe due to costs or DR, i mean, DR locations are normaly used only
when the main location is being affected due to a disaster, so the DR
machine is not being used when normal operations. Due to the costs
related to having a DR machine, i think is correct to use it for
development or testing purposes when is not being used for real DR or DR
tests. 7 years ago, i worked for an American company with 5 mainframes,
2 for development and DR purposes and the other 3 for production, all of
them in separated locations, this is normal in several big companies,
specially in application development companies.

Related to the TN3270, no matter how far or near you are from your work,
the response time depends on the connection speed, as an example, if you
are connected at 1 mile from your work using an old dialup modem, then
the response time will be slow, but if you are connected at the other
side of the world using a 1Gb or T1 connection, then the response time
will be fast. So i suggest you to check your connection speed, also
check how much people is being connected using the same connection.


Luck.
Enrique Montero

El jue, 10-09-2009 a las 09:33 -0600, Frank Swarbrick escribió:

 The whole combined versus separate TEST and PROD LPARs was interesting.  I 
 can't imagine not having them separate (with shared DASD for at least the 
 load libraries), but then it's just what I'm used to.
 
 So here's a question...  Anyone out there have DEV/TEST not only in a 
 separate LPAR, or even a separate machine, but in a separate data center?  We 
 have our primary data center in Lakewood, CO (near Denver) and our alternate 
 data center (DR site) in Scottsdale, AZ.  So about 1000 miles apart.  
 Management has the idea that we should move the applications development LPAR 
 to the ADC.  As an applications developer this makes me more than a bit 
 nervous.  Does anyone do this?  Is a GDPS essentially required to make this 
 workable?  We currently do DASD replication to our ADC using DS8100s.
 
 One other thing I'm concerned about is TN3270 response time.  I feel that 
 logging on to work from home is too slow, and I only live 8 miles away.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: TEST geographically separate from PROD

2009-09-10 Thread Doc Farmer
I think we did that at one place I worked in the ME.  There were TEST and 
PROD LPARs in the main centre, but there were other TEST and DR LPARs 
located a few hundred kliks at our secondary data centre.  

Generally, I don't think you have to have that much separation for pure 
TEST/PROD, but I think it's vital to have DR several hundred miles apart (I 
like the 1000 mile sep) and then using the DR site for TEST LPAR processing 
that supports the main site (leaving more room for PROD processing on the 
main iron).

If you're logon is too slow, is it your system or is it your home service?  
I've 
got a cable modem with 30 meg/sec and logons to remote sites on either 
coast is pretty darn good!  I use GoToMyPC for some sites, but even on 
the regular ones I've never had a problem.  If you've got DSL, that might be 
the problem.  Either that, or your front-end at the office is configured in 
such 
a manner that you have to go through a zillion hoops to authenticate.

Hope this helps.  Many thanks.

Doc Farmer 
Senior Security Specialist 
InfoSec, Inc. 

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:33:29 -0600, Frank Swarbrick 
frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com wrote:

The whole combined versus separate TEST and PROD LPARs was 
interesting.  I can't imagine not having them separate (with shared DASD for 
at least the load libraries), but then it's just what I'm used to.

So here's a question...  Anyone out there have DEV/TEST not only in a 
separate LPAR, or even a separate machine, but in a separate data center?  
We have our primary data center in Lakewood, CO (near Denver) and 
our alternate data center (DR site) in Scottsdale, AZ.  So about 1000 miles 
apart.  Management has the idea that we should move the applications 
development LPAR to the ADC.  As an applications developer this makes me 
more than a bit nervous.  Does anyone do this?  Is a GDPS essentially 
required to make this workable?  We currently do DASD replication to our 
ADC using DS8100s.

One other thing I'm concerned about is TN3270 response time.  I feel that 
logging on to work from home is too slow, and I only live 8 miles away.

Thanks,
Frank




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SHARE in Denver Wrap-Up Article

2009-09-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

http://www.share.org/www.share.org/Events/PastConferences/DenverWrapUpArticle/tabid/519/Default.aspx

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Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Knigge

Thank you guys! That's exactly what I'm looking for!


Bye,
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Re: How often IPL a production LPAR (any good practice)

2009-09-10 Thread Jim Mulder
  On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:08:49 -0500, Steve R Wolf 
 srw...@ra.rockwell.com wrote:
 
 We are a IMS TM shop.  IMS has many dependant regions (each in it's own
 address spaces).  Each night we bounce the regions for DR purposes and
 some twice for another purpose.  Because the regions use cross memory
 services the ASIDs can not be reused.  We IPL every Sunday in part due 
to
 the IMS systems (we also have a test IMS in the same system).

  Do you get an IEF352I ADDRESS SPACE UNAVAILABLE message when each
dependent region terminates?  I don't know why that would happen - 
IMS itself does not do anything to make a dependent region ASID 
nonreusable, unless you have installation or ISV code which is 
doing something to cause nonreusability.

 Control IMS address spaces (control, DLI, CQS...) do own 
cross memory structures which cause the ASID to become 
nonreusable.  IMS development does not currently plan to
exploit the z/OS 1.9 reusable ASID infrastructure for these 
control address spaces.  If recycling IMS control address 
spaces is causing you a significant ASID shortage problem,
you may want to consider submitting a requirement to IMS to
support REUSASID=YES for control address spaces. 

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2009-09-10 Thread Ken Porowski
I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

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Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Pace
I can't seem to find VTAMAPPL.  Where is this program located?

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is VTAMAPPL.

 We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc.

 Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands.

 Also used to automate shutdown.

 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:03 AM, George
 Rodriguezrodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote:
  Hi Listeners,
 
 
 
  Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start
  command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and
  here's it content:
 
 
 
  //IVPRDR  PROC CLASS='X',  DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A
 
  // M=DUMMY DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS
 
  //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR)
 
  //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION
 
  //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH
 
  //*  A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES
 
  //*  THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS
 
  //*  THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER.
 
  //*
 
  //IEFPROCEXEC  PGM=IEBEDIT
 
  //SYSIN  DDDUMMY
 
  //SYSPRINT   DDSYSOUT=*
 
  //SYSUT1 DDDDNAME=IEFRDER
 
  //SYSUT2 DDSYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80
 
  //IEFRDERDDDSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M),
 
  // DISP=SHR
 
 
 
  The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows:
 
 
 
  /*$SLGN(*)
 
  /*$SLNE(1442-1450)
 
  /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE'
 
  /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS'
 
  /*$VS,'S ABENDAID'
 
  /*$VS,'S ADABASP'
 
  /*$VS,'S ADABAST'
 
  /*$VS,'S CAOMS'
 
  .
 
  .
 
  .
 
  /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC'
 
  /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III'
 
 
 
  The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait
  between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are
  you willing to share whatever you use?
 
 
 
  Thanks in advance...
 
 
 
  George Rodriguez
 
  Specialist, Systems Programmer
 
  Network  Technical Services
 
  (561) 357-7652 (office)
 
  (561) 707-3496 (mobile)
 
  School District of Palm Beach County
 
  3348 Forest Hill Blvd.
 
  Room B-332
 
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Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL

2009-09-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I'll have to search my LINKLIST, when we ran a FLEX it came from the ADCD libs.

I'll get back unless other posters know the origin.



On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't seem to find VTAMAPPL.  Where is this program located?

 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is VTAMAPPL.

 We use that, it has PAUSE nn etc.

 Use it to start all our STCs and put appropriate PAUSEs in the commands.

 Also used to automate shutdown.

 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 2:03 AM, George
 Rodriguezrodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote:
  Hi Listeners,
 
 
 
  Presently we use the following procedure (IVPRDR) to issue the start
  command for the STCs. The PROC was originally from IPO1.PROCLIB and
  here's it content:
 
 
 
  //IVPRDR  PROC CLASS='X',              DEFAULT SYSOUT CLASS IS A
 
  //             M=DUMMY                 DEFAULT MEMBER IS BASE IVP JOBS
 
  //* LIB: IPO1.PROCLIB(IVPRDR)
 
  //* GDE: CBIPO MVS INSTALLATION
 
  //* DOC: THIS IPO PROCEDURE, WHEN STARTED WITH
 
  //*      A MEMBER NAME (S IVPRDR,M=MEMBER), TAKES
 
  //*      THE MEMBER FROM IPO1.IVPLIB AND SUBMITS
 
  //*      THE JOB TO AN MVS INTERNAL READER.
 
  //*
 
  //IEFPROC    EXEC  PGM=IEBEDIT
 
  //SYSIN      DD    DUMMY
 
  //SYSPRINT   DD    SYSOUT=*
 
  //SYSUT1     DD    DDNAME=IEFRDER
 
  //SYSUT2     DD    SYSOUT=(CLASS,INTRDR),DCB=BLKSIZE=80
 
  //IEFRDER    DD    DSN=SYS2.IVPRDR.JCL(M),
 
  //             DISP=SHR
 
 
 
  The member name that we use is called STARTUP and what's in it follows:
 
 
 
  /*$SLGN(*)
 
  /*$SLNE(1442-1450)
 
  /*$VS,'V 3400-34FF,OFFLINE'
 
  /*$VS,'-DSNPSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DSNQSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DSNTSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DWHPSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'-DWHTSTART DB2'
 
  /*$VS,'S TCPIPMVS'
 
  /*$VS,'S ABENDAID'
 
  /*$VS,'S ADABASP'
 
  /*$VS,'S ADABAST'
 
  /*$VS,'S CAOMS'
 
  .
 
  .
 
  .
 
  /*$VS,'S XDSSPROC'
 
  /*$VS,'F RMF.RMF,S III'
 
 
 
  The only problem with this method is that I sometimes need a wait
  between commands... Is there anyone else using this method? If not, are
  you willing to share whatever you use?
 
 
 
  Thanks in advance...
 
 
 
  George Rodriguez
 
  Specialist, Systems Programmer
 
  Network  Technical Services
 
  (561) 357-7652 (office)
 
  (561) 707-3496 (mobile)
 
  School District of Palm Beach County
 
  3348 Forest Hill Blvd.
 
  Room B-332
 
  .West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869
 
  Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Five Consecutive Years
 
 
 
 
 
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CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Rick Fochtman
I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm 
currently doing a consulting gig.


Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are 
RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?


I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here 
insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely 
mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.


Opinions and/or criticisms, please.

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Scott Ford
Never seen a problem with either format. Been around Rexx sin
Ricck,

Never seen a problem with either format. Been around Rexx since 1984
 
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Subject: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm 
currently doing a consulting gig.

Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are RECFM=FB, 
LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?

I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here insisting that 
FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely mandatory. The libraries are 
NOT LLA/VLF managed.

Opinions and/or criticisms, please.

Rick

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Hayim Sokolsky
The rational choices are (IMHO) FB/80 or VB/255. 

1. FB/255 makes no sense.
2. I tend to stick with FB/80 due to the use of ISPF edit -and- Mod 2/3/4 
3270 emulation.


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I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm 
currently doing a consulting gig.

Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are 
RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?

I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here 
insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely 
mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.

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Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread George.William
For some command idea, here are some I've added;
If anyone else has some additional ones I'd love to hear about them.

* CL - Change to case of the word under the cursor to Lower case.  
* CU - Change to case of the word under the cursor to Upper case.  
* CP - Copy line(s) to multiple target labels. The data to copy is 
*  the CP line or the block of lines within CPP block cmds.
*  The targets to receive the copies are set via labels.   
*  Use labels .AA thru .AZ to copy AFTER the labeled lines.
*  Use labels .BA thru .BZ to copy BEFORE the labeled lines.   
*  Adopted from the CM (Copy to Multiple lines) macro. 
* CPC- Same as CP only it uses the ISPF default clipboard item 
*  as the data to copy to the target labels. CPC may be entered
*  on ANY line as it has no significance in the copy process.  
*  Just set the target labels, enter CPC someplace and ENTER.  
* FA - Find All occurrences of a word. 
*  If the cursor is on a word, it processes it,
*  If cursor is in the line cmd, the 1st word on the line is
used. 
*  Same as the XF command except XF excludes non found lines.  
* HX - Create Hex for the character line, (non editable)   
*  Translates the line to HEX and adds the two line HEX data   
*  as note line in the member.  RESet removes the HEX data.
* HD - Create Hex Data for the character line, (editable). 
*  Translates the line to HEX and adds the two line HEX data   
*  as editable data in the member. 
*  SEE USAGE NOTES 
* HC - Hex to Character string. Works in conjunction with HD.  
*  Changes a two line Hex representation of a character string 
*  back to the one line character string.  
*  SEE USAGE NOTES 
* HELP-Displays the commands available with LINEMAC.   
* RX - Add a blank REXX formatted comment to the End of the line.  
* CM - Add a blank formatted comment 'flower box' appropriate for  
*  the type of member being updated.   
* CMT  Call the more robust CMT edit macro to create a comment box 
* CMO- Comment out a line. 
* TJ - Text join.  
* T? - Insert a REXX Trace command. i.e. TI inserts Trace I
*TN inserts Trace N
* UNC- Uncomment a line.(For REXX, delimiters must be on same line)
* XFA- Exclude all and Find all occurrences of a word. 
* XF   If the cursor is on a word, it processes it,
*  If cursor is in the line cmd, 1st word on the line is used. 
*  Same as the FA command except this excludes non found lines.
* VER- display LINEMAC version number. 
* MOD- display LINEMAC modification log.   
*
* If the command is not one of the above, it is entered as a primary

* command.  If it is not a valid command then an appropriate   
* error message is displayed.  
*  

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Thank you guys! That's exactly what I'm looking for!


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Re: Startup of All STCs After IPL

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:32:02 -0400, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote:

I can't seem to find VTAMAPPL.  Where is this program located?


That is an ADCD program.I have something on my web site and CBT file 434
called ACBCHECK.  It's not the same as VTAMAPPL, but can serve a similar
purpose.

***
*** THIS PROGRAM WILL CHECK IF A VTAM ACB IS AVAILABLE, ***
*** IF IT IS NOT THE PROGRAM WILL WAIT 15 SECONDS AND TRY   ***
*** AGAIN. IT WILL KEEP TRYING FOR UP TO 15 MINUTES.***
*** ***
*** IT CAN BE PUT INTO STCS AS A FIRST STEP SO THE STC CAN  ***
*** BE STARTED VIA COMMNDXX AT IPL BEFORE VTAM IS ACTIVE.   ***
*** ***
*** THE PROGRAM MUST BE PASSED A PARM OF THE ACB TO CHECK.  ***
***
*** SAMPLE JCL:
***   
*** //STEP1 EXEC PGM=ACBCHECK,PARM=TSO 
 


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Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread Steve Comstock

George.William wrote:

For some command idea, here are some I've added;
If anyone else has some additional ones I'd love to hear about them.

* CL - Change to case of the word under the cursor to Lower case.  
* CU - Change to case of the word under the cursor to Upper case.  
* CP - Copy line(s) to multiple target labels. The data to copy is 
*  the CP line or the block of lines within CPP block cmds.
*  The targets to receive the copies are set via labels.   
*  Use labels .AA thru .AZ to copy AFTER the labeled lines.
*  Use labels .BA thru .BZ to copy BEFORE the labeled lines.   
*  Adopted from the CM (Copy to Multiple lines) macro. 
* CPC- Same as CP only it uses the ISPF default clipboard item 
*  as the data to copy to the target labels. CPC may be entered
*  on ANY line as it has no significance in the copy process.  
*  Just set the target labels, enter CPC someplace and ENTER.  
* FA - Find All occurrences of a word. 
*  If the cursor is on a word, it processes it,
*  If cursor is in the line cmd, the 1st word on the line is
used. 
*  Same as the XF command except XF excludes non found lines.  
* HX - Create Hex for the character line, (non editable)   
*  Translates the line to HEX and adds the two line HEX data   
*  as note line in the member.  RESet removes the HEX data.
* HD - Create Hex Data for the character line, (editable). 
*  Translates the line to HEX and adds the two line HEX data   
*  as editable data in the member. 
*  SEE USAGE NOTES 
* HC - Hex to Character string. Works in conjunction with HD.  
*  Changes a two line Hex representation of a character string 
*  back to the one line character string.  
*  SEE USAGE NOTES 
* HELP-Displays the commands available with LINEMAC.   
* RX - Add a blank REXX formatted comment to the End of the line.  
* CM - Add a blank formatted comment 'flower box' appropriate for  
*  the type of member being updated.   
* CMT  Call the more robust CMT edit macro to create a comment box 
* CMO- Comment out a line. 
* TJ - Text join.  
* T? - Insert a REXX Trace command. i.e. TI inserts Trace I
*TN inserts Trace N
* UNC- Uncomment a line.(For REXX, delimiters must be on same line)
* XFA- Exclude all and Find all occurrences of a word. 
* XF   If the cursor is on a word, it processes it,
*  If cursor is in the line cmd, 1st word on the line is used. 
*  Same as the FA command except this excludes non found lines.
* VER- display LINEMAC version number. 
* MOD- display LINEMAC modification log.   
*

* If the command is not one of the above, it is entered as a primary

* command.  If it is not a valid command then an appropriate   
* error message is displayed.  
*  


Very clever. It looks like ISPF is catching up with you,
though. The idea behind your CP command is implemented
with AK, BK, OK (copy or move after and Keep the value
for another copy or move), and HX is now an official
command (z/OS 1.11). TJ is the same as TF, I would imagine.

Still, good show.


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Re: Use of RETAIN

2009-09-10 Thread John Laubenheimer
The originally specified JCL isn't exactly correct.  If you were to call for a 
2nd 
tape sometime before reaching file 10, the system would try to place that file 
on the 1st (full) tape, due to the way this refer-back is coded.  Also, if 
allowed, there would be gaps in the file numbers (such as file 10 following 
file 8 
with no file 9 present).  The correct specification would be to refer back to 
the DD for the previous file on the tape.

Original:

//TAPE1DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL1..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),  
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(1,SL), 
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,SER=),
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760) 
//TAPE2DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL2..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),  
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(2,SL), 
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE1),  
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)

//TAPE10   DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL10..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(10,SL),   
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE1), 
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760) 

Corrected:

//TAPE1DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL1..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),  
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(1,SL), 
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,SER=),
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760) 
//TAPE2DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL2..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),  
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(2,SL), 
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE1),  
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)
 .  .  .
//TAPE9DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL9..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(9,SL),   
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE8), 
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760) 
//TAPE10   DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL10..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
// UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(10,SL),   
// VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE9), 
// DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760) 

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think the Lrecl80 came from the punch card days.  The people I worked with 
back in 1980 preferred the 80 byte record because they came from punch cards.

That plus the ease of seeing everything on one screen without having to scroll 
back and forth was great.  But those days were more due to the limits of the 
terminals.  I do not recall when we were able to go from the 24x80 screen to 
mod3/mod4/mod5.  But that would be one reason many prefer the Lrecl80.

With the advances of screen szie (162x??) you could see more at one time than 
before.

I really do not think it was ever a standard, just a preference.  IBM would 
ship some products clists (like DB2's) in both formats and you could choose 
which one you liked to use.

My preference is still 80 byte, but I can always adapt to 255.

Lizette




I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm 
currently doing a consulting gig.

Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are 
RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?

I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here 
insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely 
mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.

Opinions and/or criticisms, please.



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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Thompson, Steve
Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read
from a computer system running Windows and IE.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld

Thanks for the posting.  I signed up.

At the last meeting of the Midwest Computer Measurement Group, which was 
held in Milwaukee a month or so ago, Al Sherkow spoke, but not on Neon 
zPrime.  He was asked a lot of questions about it during his 2 hours, and it 
was very interesting.  He does consulting work for both Neon and IBM.  He 
didn't give any definitive answers, but did point out that whatever contract 
you sign with IBM for using ZIIPs and ZAAPs is binding.  This should be 
interesting to see how this plays out.


Eric Bielefeld
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I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD

http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=1331e=328elq=afd32854d7c047509a3a5e1
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Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar

2009-09-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

Thompson, Steve wrote:

Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read
from a computer system running Windows and IE.
  


I read it using Firefox 3.5.2 under Windows XP SP3.

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Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands

2009-09-10 Thread George.William
Ya, guess it is. 
Actuall TJ is different from TF.
TF - Text Flow will 'flow' the indicated line and all subsequent lines
below it till the end of the paragraph.

TJ - Text Join, joins the indicated line and ONLY THE ONE LINE BELOW IT
and will not 'flow' to a 2nd line if the   data is longer than the
BNDS (bounds). Useful to join two lines of code when using TF would
create havoc with your code. 


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Very clever. It looks like ISPF is catching up with you,
though. The idea behind your CP command is implemented
with AK, BK, OK (copy or move after and Keep the value
for another copy or move), and HX is now an official
command (z/OS 1.11). TJ is the same as TF, I would imagine.

Still, good show.


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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Savor, Tom
I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where
I'm 
currently doing a consulting gig.

Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are 
RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?

I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here 
insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely 
mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.

Every place I've ever worked at (that I can remember)which is maybe
10-12 different places,
have all used RECFM=FB, LRECL=80

For what it's worth.  

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
 
 I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where
I'm
 currently doing a consulting gig.
 
 Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are
 RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?
 
 I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here
 insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely
 mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.
 
 Opinions and/or criticisms, please.

Well, I don't know about Industry Standard, but based on empirical
evidence RECFM=FB,LRECL=80 certainly is not mandatory.  Example:  The
CLIST produced by IRRRID00, for one.

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Re: Sytem Managed Buffering

2009-09-10 Thread gsg
Anybody have feedback on this?

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Bob Shannon
Clists use to parse to the end of the record. One could enter a command on a 
line followed by comments, and clist would still parse to the end of record. 
Back in the day, VB performed better. 

With VLF, it pretty much doesn't matter. You indicated VLF is not a 
consideration so it really comes down to personal preference. I think VB is a 
PITA, so I never use it. IBM, and most vendors, ship FB format for Rexx and 
clists. If you like VB, and don't need to concatenate with FB, there is no 
compelling reason to change.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Dynamic Cache Management

2009-09-10 Thread gsg
I was reading the Implementing System-Managed Storage book and came 
accross Using Cache to improve performance, were it spoke about Dynamic 
Cache Magagement.  Is there still a benefit in implementing this?  
PROS/CONS.  Is anyone using this?  Got any general guidelines for starting out?

TIA

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Re: T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread gsg
Catalog Recovery + by Mainstar Software, they may be Rocket Software now.

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Share Denver - Presentations

2009-09-10 Thread gsg
I didn't attend Share, but was wondering if there is a site to get all of the 
presentations.

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Re: Sytem Managed Buffering

2009-09-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Feedack on what?
What is your question?
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Anybody have feedback on this?

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Re: Share Denver - Presentations

2009-09-10 Thread Edward Jaffe

gsg wrote:
I didn't attend Share, but was wondering if there is a site to get all of the 
presentations.
  


http://www.share.org

Click Proceedings.

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Re: Share Denver - Presentations

2009-09-10 Thread Scott Ford
Thx , Ed...
I appreciate the url for Share since I wasnt able to attend.
 
Scott J Ford
www.identityforge.com
 





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 I didn't attend Share, but was wondering if there is a site to get all of the 
 presentations.
  

http://www.share.org

Click Proceedings.

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:44:12 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:

I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm
currently doing a consulting gig.

Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are
RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?

I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here
insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely
mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.

Opinions and/or criticisms, please.

o First, silicon is cheaper than carbon.  The criterion
  for more efficient should consider the cost of human
  resources, before computer resources.

o Industry standard?  Not any more.  (But I can remember
  when ISPF (at the time SPF) panels were distributed as VB;
  IBM later switched to FB (circa 1980?).

o When Rexx for TSO/E was first announced, I saw an IBM Intro
  publication which recommended VB without line numbers and
  liberal use of mixed case for human legibility (I sense MFC's
  hand here).  I can no longer find that pub, and IBM imediately
  failed to walk their talk.

o ISPF is the _only_ editor/viewer I know that won't soft-wrap
  long lines to fit the screen without scrolling back and forth
  (although some rely on auto-scrolling to follow the cursor).
  Particularly painful when I want to insert a few characters
  in a line that has more than 80 (or whatever) characters to
  the right of the insertion point.  I need to Change and
  overtype.  Or when I delete a character, a blank gets inserted
  at the point of the right screen boundary and I must scroll
  right and delete it.  There should be a Requirement for ISPF
  (optionally, in profile) to soft-wrap long lines to screen
  width.  (Or is there such a Requirement already?)  I just go
  use another editor rather than fight it.  (All our data sets
  are NFS exported.)

-- gil

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Tony B.
Length schmength, it depends what's in it.  I use any PDS as a clist
repository and allocate it whenever I need it.

Most of the time I like whatever fits on my screen but I keep a 300 lrecl
around in case I have a slew of really wide RACF commands, like a full width
alter of installation data.

 

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I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm
currently doing a consulting gig.

Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are RECFM=FB,
LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80?

I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here insisting
that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely mandatory. The
libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed.

Opinions and/or criticisms, please.

Rick

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Ted MacNEIL
o Industry standard?  Not any more.  (But I can remember   when ISPF (at the 
time SPF) panels were distributed as VB;   IBM later switched to FB (circa 
1980?).

Later, IIRC.
I think it came out with XA.
Also, that was the same time they renamed it and split out PDF.
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Re: Share Denver - Presentations

2009-09-10 Thread gsg
Thanks for the link.

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Re: T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread Douglas Shupe

Check Tivoli Advanced Catalog Management from IBM -
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS209-285opencm_mmc=5318-_-n-_-vrm_newsletter-_-10577_127721cmibm_em=dm:0:5357837
You might be pleased with what you find 'under the covers'.
Regards, Doug

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Hi,

We are planning two replace two z890 with one z10BC with a capacity 
equivalent to the two z890’s.


T-Rex is currently licensed on only one z890, and Dino software want a hefty 
upgrade fee.


Can anyone recommend a replacement for T-Rex.

We use it for catalog backups and for getting rid of various orphaned files.

TIA

Gadi


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מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את 
לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך 
סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה 
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Re: T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread Traylor, Terry
Which is the same as Mainstar's Catalog Recovery Plus except that you also have 
access through TEP (Tivoli Enterprise Portal).


Terry Traylor 
charlesSCHWAB 
TIS Mainframe Storage Management 
Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg
(602) 977-5154

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Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:05 PM
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Check Tivoli Advanced Catalog Management from IBM -
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS209-285opencm_mmc=5318-_-n-_-vrm_newsletter-_-10577_127721cmibm_em=dm:0:5357837
You might be pleased with what you find 'under the covers'.
Regards, Doug

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Subject: T-Rex replacement


Hi,

We are planning two replace two z890 with one z10BC with a capacity 
equivalent to the two z890’s.

T-Rex is currently licensed on only one z890, and Dino software want a hefty 
upgrade fee.

Can anyone recommend a replacement for T-Rex.

We use it for catalog backups and for getting rid of various orphaned files.

TIA

Gadi


לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג 
מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את 
לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך 
סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה 
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Re: T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Zelden
That link was for Tivoli Advanced Allocation Management, which is a 
similar product to CA-Allocate (aka VAM, aka Vantage SRM) and 
BMC Resolve SRM (aka STOPX37).   

Try this one: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/storage/software/toolkit/acm.html

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:04:35 -0400, Douglas Shupe dsh...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Check Tivoli Advanced Catalog Management from IBM -
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS209-285opencm_mmc=5318-_-n-_-vrm_newsletter-_-10577_127721cmibm_em=dm:0:5357837
You might be pleased with what you find 'under the covers'.
Regards, Doug

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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
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Hi,

We are planning two replace two z890 with one z10BC with a capacity
equivalent to the two z890’s.

T-Rex is currently licensed on only one z890, and Dino software want a hefty
upgrade fee.

Can anyone recommend a replacement for T-Rex.

We use it for catalog backups and for getting rid of various orphaned files.

TIA

Gadi


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Re: Dynamic Cache Management

2009-09-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
GSG,

For IBM, SUN/STK and HDS there is still a small benefit. While everything
must go through cache with these controllers, DCME will influence where ICL
and BC IO is placed in the LRU queue so that it will be cast out sooner than
other normal IO.

You don't get a choice about whether it is implemented or not. DFSMS will
use the MSR value in the STORCLAS to decide whether the dataset is Must,
Maybe or never cache.

Ron

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 Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Dynamic Cache Management
 
 I was reading the Implementing System-Managed Storage book and came
 accross Using Cache to improve performance, were it spoke about Dynamic
 Cache Magagement.  Is there still a benefit in implementing this?
 PROS/CONS.  Is anyone using this?  Got any general guidelines for starting
 out?
 
 TIA
 
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Re: Sytem Managed Buffering

2009-09-10 Thread Ron Hawkins
GSG,

The type 64 SMF record.

Ron

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 We are looking at implementing SMB and I'm wondering how do you know if
 SMB is kicking in for a dataset?  Is there a message stating SMB is active
for
 this dataset?
 
 Also, is there any problems with SMB and datasets that are used by CICS.
I
 think most of our CICS online files utilize LSR, does SMB ignore these
 datasets?  Is there anything we need to be concerned with regarding SMB
and
 CICS files?
 
 TIA
 
 
 
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Re: T-Rex replacement

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Some additional possible alternatives to Dino Software's T-Rex:

IBM: Tivoli Advanced Catalog Management for z/OS (as mentioned)
(possibly also Tivoli Advanced Audit for DFSMShsm, depending on
requirements)
ASPG: Catalog Information Manager (CIM)
CA: CREWS
Data Processing Techniques: DP Technician
EMC: Catalog Solution
Estorian: SpaceFinder
Hostsystems GmbH: Catalog Information Manager (CIM)

Also, Gimbals is selling red toy fire trucks for Christmas. :-)

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Re: PDSE HELP Required.

2009-09-10 Thread Sivakumar, Manikandan
Thank you Radoslaw Skorupka

So It always better to use PDSE with in the SYSPLEX boundaries to avoid any 
corruption. 

I don't understand why the vendors are populating the libraries in PDSE.

Mani.


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Subject: Re: PDSE HELP Required.

Sivakumar, Manikandan pisze:
 All,
 
  
 
 I would need your assistance to know about PDSE Concepts and
 considerations. 
 
  
 
 Currently the 3rd Party Vendor products were introduced the product
 libraries in PDSE format which benefits them in terms of Dynamic Space
 allocation with reclaim spaces, 123 Extent limit, Multiple members can
 created at a single time etc.,
 
  
 
 I would need your help to understand the implementation considerations.
 
  
 
 1.  In GRS/MIM Complex how we need to implement the PDSE
 Loadlib/Linklib? If the PDSESHARING is NORMAL 

Apples and oranges. GRS/MIM *does not help* with sharing PDSE's across 
MVS images. You can share PDSE within sysplex boundary (not the same 
thing as GRS complex). Linklib/loadlib has nothing to do here.


 2.  How to implement in the case of PDSESHARING is EXTENDED?

No change. Sysplex boundaries.


 3.  What are the other important factors to be consider in SYSPLEX
 environment while handling PDSE?

Never, ever try to access PDSE from other system (other sysplex).


 4.  Shall we convert the PDSE to PDS?

Why? If you want to share it between non-sysplexed systems, then it can 
be good idea. However sometimes you *cannot* convert, because PDSE can 
contain programs in format which is not possible to store in PDS. Is it 
your case - we don't know.

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Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
VB 255 gives you more flexibility, I just find that long character
strings are easier to code if you can use the whole 255 bytes.

So many times have novices asked me why their REXX was failing and it
was sequence numbers in 73-80. Can still happen for VB 255 but always
seems to be that folks don't look in 73-80 because they can't see it
without scrolling right on a standard terminal display.

But having said that, my REXX lib is FB 80, for no good reason :)

I also use some R4 REXX and Notepad doesn't care about FB 80.

It should be 133 anyway, makes coding for my 1403 line printer a cinch :)


ANSI rhymes with Nancy  - real programmers use RECFM=FM


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
o Industry standard?  Not any more.  (But I can remember   when ISPF (at 
the time SPF) panels were distributed as VB;   IBM later switched to FB 
(circa 1980?).

 Later, IIRC.
 I think it came out with XA.
 Also, that was the same time they renamed it and split out PDF.
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 Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Use of RETAIN

2009-09-10 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I agree with John, make the referback always to the previous step.

When I was doing a lot of tape stacking, I also had a placeholder
dataset for the first one on the initial tape.

I would generate the JCL using a REXX to build the STEPNAME referback
name and build a new job at step 255.

Use of an instream PROC also makes the JCL more streamlined, make the
referback a PROC JCL PARM.

I have a feeling that if you only refer back to label 1, when a new
volume is mounted, the job fails...

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:08 AM, John Laubenheimer
jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote:
 The originally specified JCL isn't exactly correct.  If you were to call for 
 a 2nd
 tape sometime before reaching file 10, the system would try to place that file
 on the 1st (full) tape, due to the way this refer-back is coded.  Also, if
 allowed, there would be gaps in the file numbers (such as file 10 following 
 file 8
 with no file 9 present).  The correct specification would be to refer back to
 the DD for the previous file on the tape.

 Original:

 //TAPE1    DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL1..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(1,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,SER=),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)
 //TAPE2    DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL2..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(2,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE1),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)

 //TAPE10   DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL10..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(10,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE1),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)

 Corrected:

 //TAPE1    DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL1..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(1,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,SER=),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)
 //TAPE2    DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL2..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(2,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE1),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)
                 .  .  .
 //TAPE9    DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL9..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(9,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE8),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)
 //TAPE10   DD  DSN=CHGE.VOL10..MAGSTAR(+1),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),
 //             UNIT=3590-1,LABEL=(10,SL),
 //             VOLUME=(,RETAIN,REF=*.STEP01.TAPE9),
 //             DCB=(MODEL,RECFM=U,LRECL=0,BLKSIZE=32760)

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