Receive e-mails on z/OS
many of our batch jobs take their input from data sent us Hello list, many of our batch jobs take their input from data sent us by means of e-mail attachments. Attachments are manually stored on PCs, uploaded to z/OS, then batch starts. This is obviously a manual and error prone process. Therefore I ve been asked to see if it's possible to setup z/OS in order to receive and handle e-mails and their attachments which will eventually feed our batch. Having already SMTP for outbound e-mails, I started from it and, thanks to Steve Comstock's SMTP saga on ibm-main, I've been able to set it up to receive e-mails. But the TSO RECEIVE seems not to be able to handle attachments,unless I missed something. Before reading the many publication on this matter, I would like to ask what would you recommend for this goal. SMTP or sendmail ? Any other valid ISV alternatives ? Any pointer to publications/Redbooks which would help ? Your input is highly appreciated. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any idea how a batch pgm (fetchable routine) can find out by which program it was fetched?
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:38:17 +0100 Jan Vanbrabant vanbrabant...@gmail.com wrote: :Question wholly contained in the subject: :Any idea how a batch pgm (fetchable routine) can find out by which program :it was fetched? Only by hooking LOAD and storing the information. :By chance no sample or skeleton sample available somewhere? Sorry. NDAs and all that. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFDSMSdss logic when moving datasets.
R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message news:4b572e5e.40...@bremultibank.com.pl... Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze: Hello, Is there any manual describing DFdss's logic when moving a (large) number of datasets? I have the impression that all datasets in the Include(dsn,dsn,dsn...) list are first enqueued and after that, DFdss starts moving them. This means that datasets are held enqueued for a much longer than actually needed, which is for the duration of the move. Is this correct, is it described anywhere and what can I do to reduce the time each dataset is enqueued? I'd rather prefer DFdss to enqueue the dataset only for the duration of the move and skip the dataset if the enqueue fails. I believe it is as you described *and I like it*. That's why nobody can change content of your pack. BTW: you obviously know SHR and TOLENQF parameters, do you? If you really want to reduce ENQ time then you should combine DSS with advanced copy services like FlashCopy. Or simply split your job into several steps. -- Radoslaw Skorupka I did some more research and have narrowed the problem to PDSE's. All other datasets are enqueued only for the duration of the MOVE. PDSE's are enqueued when the MOVE starts, but never dequeued. I will do some more tests, but I think I am going to report this as a problem. Did anybody have similar expirences? About the pack: I am doing storage management on a 6 TB SMS Storagegroup, e.g. moving datasets from DISNEW volumes. There is no reason to reserve a pack during this job. About TOLENQF: I don't want to mess with datasets that are being used by others, nor do I want others to use datasets that I am moving. The job will retry on the next run. Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFDSMSdss logic when moving datasets.
Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote in message news:3310ac9d797ec94db8d89ccabdea47a701d06...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.ne t... R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message news:4b572e5e.40...@bremultibank.com.pl... Vernooij, CP - SPLXM pisze: Hello, Is there any manual describing DFdss's logic when moving a (large) number of datasets? I have the impression that all datasets in the Include(dsn,dsn,dsn...) list are first enqueued and after that, DFdss starts moving them. This means that datasets are held enqueued for a much longer than actually needed, which is for the duration of the move. Is this correct, is it described anywhere and what can I do to reduce the time each dataset is enqueued? I'd rather prefer DFdss to enqueue the dataset only for the duration of the move and skip the dataset if the enqueue fails. I believe it is as you described *and I like it*. That's why nobody can change content of your pack. BTW: you obviously know SHR and TOLENQF parameters, do you? If you really want to reduce ENQ time then you should combine DSS with advanced copy services like FlashCopy. Or simply split your job into several steps. -- Radoslaw Skorupka I did some more research and have narrowed the problem to PDSE's. All other datasets are enqueued only for the duration of the MOVE. PDSE's are enqueued when the MOVE starts, but never dequeued. I will do some more tests, but I think I am going to report this as a problem. The problem occurs when I do a COPY DELETE with FILTERDD including a number of datasets. Each datasets is enqueued when the copy starts and dequeued when the MOVE ends, except for PDSE's, that are only dequeued when the COPY task ends, i.e. when all datasets in the INC list have been moved. When I do a number of COPY DS(INC(dsn)) DELETE commands each dataset is enqueued when the MOVE starts and dequeued when the MOVE ends, probably because then the COPY task also ends. Did anybody have similar expirences? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Receive e-mails on z/OS
Hi A few years ago, here in house , we have discussed shortly the possibility to react for some incoming mails, but all the problems with security , SPAM etc persuaded us not to go in this way. Walter Marguccio wrote: many of our batch jobs take their input from data sent us Hello list, many of our batch jobs take their input from data sent us by means of e-mail attachments. Attachments are manually stored on PCs, uploaded to z/OS, then batch starts. This is obviously a manual and error prone process. Therefore I ve been asked to see if it's possible to setup z/OS in order to receive and handle e-mails and their attachments which will eventually feed our batch. Having already SMTP for outbound e-mails, I started from it and, thanks to Steve Comstock's SMTP saga on ibm-main, I've been able to set it up to receive e-mails. But the TSO RECEIVE seems not to be able to handle attachments,unless I missed something. Before reading the many publication on this matter, I would like to ask what would you recommend for this goal. SMTP or sendmail ? Any other valid ISV alternatives ? Any pointer to publications/Redbooks which would help ? Your input is highly appreciated. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
Since you're referring to problems with the WLM policy, I guess you had some classification rule catching the initial job but found that the child is not caught by this rule. That was the exact problem. Because any other sub-system would switch into USS, the rules for that sub-system would come into effect. The OMVS service class was similar to TSO, so we would end up with test batch running highere than production, or onlines/stc running lower than where they should be, because they switched into USS. HOD, TN3270, and TCP/IP all suffered, until we were able to diagnose them, using what little tools were available back then. The FTP daemon comes to mind: It forks once or twice at startup and the parent(s) terminate there after leaving only the final child in place. That was also one of the problems. But note that the ftpd code itself let's the parents terminate. That's not what I was told at the time. The VTAM sysprog (who was also just learning about it, as well) told me what he thought it was due to. And, that misunderstanding is what I stated in a previous post. It was 1997-1999, and we were all learning what it was all about. This was before the major re-write of TCP/IP, and even IBM seemed to be learning how to deal with UNIX System Services. We had a lot of mis-information, back then. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
WEB Print Server Shopping
We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
I think there are commercial product to do this, but with the HTTP Server and REXX SPOOL interface you can do all this things . Jim Marshall wrote: We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Miklos Szigetvari Development Team ISIS Information Systems Gmbh tel: (+43) 2236 27551 570 Fax: (+43) 2236 21081 E-mail: miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com Info: i...@isis-papyrus.com Hotline: +43-2236-27551-111 Visit our Website: http://www.isis-papyrus.com --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Archives (was PAGE datasets -- few large or more small)
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:08:21 -0800, Ron Hawkins wrote: The archives don't go back further than 2005 ... That is because the older posts were moved to IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES. Subscribe to that group and you can find them. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
1) 100% agreed 2) 100% agreed 3) 90% agreed. I agree with statement paging bandwidth... I disagree with the second statement more smaller is always better... The bandwidth must be adjusted to suit the paging rate. If the total page rate is 1 or 2 per sec, one local could handle the load easily. If it is 100's per sec, a more robust paging subsystem would be needed. Converting 9 locals to 3 may or may not hurt! (it depends). 4) If I had an unlimited budget snip - Individual local page datasets should not exceed 30% (or 25% if you choose) utilization because the contigious slot allocation algorithm becomes inefficient/unsuccessful for that dataset. The utilization% at a total paging subsystem level is irrelevent with respect to the algorithms. - All local page datasets should be the same size (or close to it in slots) and device type because of ASMs round robin allocation algorithm. If one page dataset has 12000 slots and another has 24000 the utilization% on the second will be about 1/2 of the first. - Paging bandwidth is as important as paging space. Converting 9 page datasets to 3 page datasets of triple size will probably impact performance. More smaller page datasets is always better over fewer large page datasets. - A volume should only have a single local page dataset on it, and no other datasets. Use of WLM managed PAVs by ASM can be used to eliminate this restriction. Depending on the actual storage subsystem backing a page dataset it may or may not be reasonable to have multiple systems using a volume with a page dataset on it. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
InfoPrint Server? HOD? Several ISV products will suck the data off spool and store elsewhere for retrieval. Levi, Ray Shoup (LRS), CA, others snip Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:03:58 -0600, John Laubenheimer jlaubenhei...@doitt.nyc.gov wrote: IBM has recommended a minimum of 4 locals (or 4 paging paths). To the OP: Most if not all your questions are answered in the Initialization and Tuning Guide - Chapter 2. Auxiliary Storage Management Initialization. I took a quick glance, and I didn't see a specific number mentioned for the minimum. I know 4 has been discussed in IBM-MAIN but the closest documented thing I can find (unless I missed it), is the System Health Checker, which specifies 3 as the minimum by default in the check. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:50:18 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I strongly disagree with your statement that the originating address space goes away. If I've mis-used the terminology, I'm sorry. But, there was/is a case with ESA 5.2, where there is only the forked/spawned/whatever USS piece is the only part left, and the originating/calling address space is no longer with us. It's a USS process, with no apparent parrent, and caused us grief when we were trying to 'get it right' with our WLM policy. If it's 'fixed', all the better. - Are you referring to orhpans? Or maybe your are confusing with zombies? I recall a lot more problems with zombies in the early Unix System Services days. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
Check out JRB (Jes Report Broker) from MacKinney. Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support Group Server Development Support Toyota Motor Engineering Manufacturing North America, Inc. bill.bis...@tema.toyota.com (502) 570-6143 Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 01/21/2010 07:21 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject WEB Print Server Shopping We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
I know 4 has been discussed in IBM-MAIN but the closest documented thing I can find (unless I missed it), is the System Health. Checker, which specifies 3 as the minimum by default in the check. I've gone with three (large) locals, minimum for almost 20 of my 30 years in the field. I've only seen two large systems (3000+ MIPS) that needed more. One went to 5 locals, which we clawed back one after we went 64-bit and added more memory, than was previously possible. The best page I/O is still the one that doesn't happen. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
Are you referring to orhpans? Or maybe your are confusing with zombies? Not only. As somebody already pointed out there was at least one daemon that did it (FTPD). But, after all these years of not knowing (since I was told something erroneous by an expert), he set me straight with the fact that it was the way it was designed, NOT an artifact of the way UNIX System Services was implemented. I recall a lot more problems with zombies in the early Unix System Services days. Those were a different flavour of issues. I refused to design a WLM policy to address anomalous behavior. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:50:18 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I strongly disagree with your statement that the originating address space goes away. If I've mis-used the terminology, I'm sorry. But, there was/is a case with ESA 5.2, where there is only the forked/spawned/whatever USS piece is the only part left, and the originating/calling address space is no longer with us. It's a USS process, with no apparent parrent, and caused us grief when we were trying to 'get it right' with our WLM policy. If it's 'fixed', all the better. - Are you referring to orhpans? Or maybe your are confusing with zombies? I recall a lot more problems with zombies in the early Unix System Services days. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Intersting point, Mark. Can you define / distinguish the characteristics of orphans vs. zombies? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
I refused to design a WLM policy to address anomalous behavior. z/OS UNIX was nothing but anomalous behaviour in the eyes of z/OS MVS, but z/OS UNIX (MVS OpenEdition with maiden-name) married-in and they finally managed to respect and support each other ;-) -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:36:32 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: Intersting point, Mark. Can you define / distinguish the characteristics of orphans vs. zombies? It is the same definition as any other *nix platform.I don't really like using Wikipedia as a reference, but that was the first thing that came up in a search for me (it also describes orphans): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
Allan, Paging rates depend on the interval they are measured over. A page rate of one or two per second measured in a 15 minute RMF interval may be due to a page rate of 30-60 pages/sec for half a minute within that RMF interval. Back before the days of Expanded Storage I established the total page movement rate from One minute Monitor II intervals. It's surprising just how much larger the peaks are when you drop down to this small an interval. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] PAGE datasets -- few large or more small 1) 100% agreed 2) 100% agreed 3) 90% agreed. I agree with statement paging bandwidth... I disagree with the second statement more smaller is always better... The bandwidth must be adjusted to suit the paging rate. If the total page rate is 1 or 2 per sec, one local could handle the load easily. If it is 100's per sec, a more robust paging subsystem would be needed. Converting 9 locals to 3 may or may not hurt! (it depends). 4) If I had an unlimited budget snip - Individual local page datasets should not exceed 30% (or 25% if you choose) utilization because the contigious slot allocation algorithm becomes inefficient/unsuccessful for that dataset. The utilization% at a total paging subsystem level is irrelevent with respect to the algorithms. - All local page datasets should be the same size (or close to it in slots) and device type because of ASMs round robin allocation algorithm. If one page dataset has 12000 slots and another has 24000 the utilization% on the second will be about 1/2 of the first. - Paging bandwidth is as important as paging space. Converting 9 page datasets to 3 page datasets of triple size will probably impact performance. More smaller page datasets is always better over fewer large page datasets. - A volume should only have a single local page dataset on it, and no other datasets. Use of WLM managed PAVs by ASM can be used to eliminate this restriction. Depending on the actual storage subsystem backing a page dataset it may or may not be reasonable to have multiple systems using a volume with a page dataset on it. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM
The below REXX [from one of the dino sites, forgot which one] does the job. Can even be used as an action against a given PDS on the DSLIST panel. /* REXX */ /* DELETE ALL MEMBERS OF A GIVEN LIBRARY DSN */ TRACE 'N' /* TRACE 'R' */ /* TRACE 'O' */ PARSE UPPER ARG DSNAME DSN = STRIP(DSNAME, 'BOTH', ) /* IN CASE IT'S IN QUOTES */ QUOTE = ' QDSN = QUOTE||DSN||QUOTE /* FULLY QUOTED DSN */ ADDRESS ISPEXEC LMINIT DATAID( MYDATAID) DATASET( QDSN ) ENQ(SHRW) LMOPEN DATAID(MYDATAID) OPTION(OUTPUT) LMMDEL DATAID(MYDATAID) MEMBER(*) LMCLOSE DATAID(MYDATAID) LMFREE DATAID(MYDATAID) SAY DSN IS NOW EMPTY EXIT HTH, -Victor- On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:45:33 -0800, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com wrote: Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from ServerPac CPP. I noticed this REXX in and amongst the JCL. SCPPCENU(CPPEDELM) Everyone who has used CPP should have a copy. Its only about 100 lines of nicely written and documented REXX. Below is the basic JCL, of course you need your LOCAL ISPF/TSO data sets as in your logon proc... //DELMEM EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B,COND=(4000,LT) //* *** *** //* *DELETE ALL MEMBERS OF MASTER DIALOG DATA SETS * //* * (EXCEPT SCPPTENU)* //* *** *** //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPCENU //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPCENU //ISPMLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPMENU //ISPPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPPENU //ISPSLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPSENU //ISPLLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPLOAD //ISPTLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPTENU //ISPPROF DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=(NEW,DELETE), //DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120,RECFM=FB), //SPACE=(CYL,(1,1,1)) //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE PREFIX(AFITSUP) ISPSTART CMD(CPPEDELM) //SYSINDD * MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPCENU MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPLOAD MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPMENU MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPPENU MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPSENU /* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
You might be able to build something around this JES2Mail/JES2FTP product. We use the JES2Mail for PDF creation in z/OS and it works well. /Tom Kern /U.S. Dept of Energy /301-903-2211 On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:21:14 -0600, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote: We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
You may want to check out HW's product Jes2Web. Brad Wissink Information Technology Services Iowa State University 515-294-3088 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Marshall Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: WEB Print Server Shopping We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
snip Paging rates depend on the interval they are measured over. A page rate of one or two per second measured in a 15 minute RMF interval may be due to a page rate of 30-60 pages/sec for half a minute within that RMF interval. /snip Agreed! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
We too use Jes2FTP for PDF creation. We store them in USS user directories and let them use SMB to view the reports. Mike Wickman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] WEB Print Server Shopping You might be able to build something around this JES2Mail/JES2FTP product. We use the JES2Mail for PDF creation in z/OS and it works well. /Tom Kern /U.S. Dept of Energy /301-903-2211 On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:21:14 -0600, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote: We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: WEB Print Server Shopping
We use Beta93 (z/OS) and Beta Web Enabler (z/Linux). Listoutput can be displayed and printed via Internet Explorer. To fulfill the principle of a paperless office, then display function is mainly used. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregister Augsburg HRB 6035 Ust-ID-Nr: DE 127501299 Geschäftsführung: Carel Halff (Vorsitzender), Dr. Martin Beer, Dr. Klaus Driever Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Klaus Donaubauer
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
Paging rates depend on the interval they are measured over. A page rate of one or two per second measured in a 15 minute RMF interval may be due to a page rate of 30-60 pages/sec for half a minute within that RMF interval. Keyword: MAY Back before the days of Expanded Storage I established the total page movement rate from One minute Monitor II intervals. Any performance analyst worth their salt should be doing that, on an occasional basis on any important system in their shop. It's surprising just how much larger the peaks are when you drop down to this small an interval. YMMV. Most of the time, on properly configured systems (ie: sufficient memory), you should see a steady-state paging rate in the single digit to zero range. If not, and performance is an issue, it's time to buy more memory. With 64-bit, and cheap memory, this is easier to do than it used to be. On all of my loved machines, we ensure that there is sufficient memory to keep the paging low regardless of the interval. Some onlines don't page at all. With sub-0.2 transaction response, any paging is a noticible contributor to any increase. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help JES2 : Release sysouts with status user
Hi Mohan, I have already tried the commands $AJ , $AA,ALL etc and including your suggestion, with th ST and release command, and the sysouts still remains with the USER status. The jobs were not held by $HJ command and do not have JHOLD status. Thanks for your reply. Best regards, Albert VENETITAY GCE Technologies 93 BAGNOLET FRANCE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help JES2 : Release sysouts with status user
snip sysouts have a status user /snip I tend to find that 'user' in this case means a sysout 'hold'. In my cases, this is caused by an error in handling the sysout, usually a PSF issue. Releasing the job doesn't release the sysout, I have to release the individual sysout. HTH. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Archives (was PAGE datasets -- few large or more small)
Tom, Thank you very much. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Archives (was PAGE datasets -- few large or more small) On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:08:21 -0800, Ron Hawkins wrote: The archives don't go back further than 2005 ... That is because the older posts were moved to IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES. Subscribe to that group and you can find them. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS Batch
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:39:18 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: I refused to design a WLM policy to address anomalous behavior. z/OS UNIX was nothing but anomalous behaviour in the eyes of z/OS MVS, but z/OS UNIX (MVS OpenEdition with maiden-name) married-in and they finally managed to respect and support each other ;-) I suspect that chief among the perceived anomalous behavior is perfectly conventional UNIX behavior: whereas when a parent MVS task terminates, its children ABEND out of grief, when a parent UNIX process terminates, its children are simply adopted by their grandparent. This is venerable, conventional, and useful UNIX behavior. The perception of anomaly may be magnified to a programmer who is accustomed to running interactive z/OS UNIX only from the TSO OMVS command. In that case, the parent is the user's TSO session. However, if the user runs a session with telnet/rlogin/ssh etc. the only parent is the network daemon. The behavior is as designed; the flaw is in WLM or its policies. The admins needed to repair those rather than stubbornly whining about imagined flaws in z/OS UNIX. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
Ted, I think the steady state paging observation may be worth revisiting now that ES is no longer with us. ES provided a buffer to AUX that masked TSO and batch swap trim and physical swap activity from AUX. That buffer is no longer available. So how is you paging rate when the system takes a dump? Like most capacity planning, the paging configuration is not about most of the time, it is about peak demand. Just like sites that provide CPU and IO capacity for one peak day a year, paging should not be configured for most of the time. It should be configured for the peak requirement. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] PAGE datasets -- few large or more small Paging rates depend on the interval they are measured over. A page rate of one or two per second measured in a 15 minute RMF interval may be due to a page rate of 30-60 pages/sec for half a minute within that RMF interval. Keyword: MAY Back before the days of Expanded Storage I established the total page movement rate from One minute Monitor II intervals. Any performance analyst worth their salt should be doing that, on an occasional basis on any important system in their shop. It's surprising just how much larger the peaks are when you drop down to this small an interval. YMMV. Most of the time, on properly configured systems (ie: sufficient memory), you should see a steady-state paging rate in the single digit to zero range. If not, and performance is an issue, it's time to buy more memory. With 64-bit, and cheap memory, this is easier to do than it used to be. On all of my loved machines, we ensure that there is sufficient memory to keep the paging low regardless of the interval. Some onlines don't page at all. With sub-0.2 transaction response, any paging is a noticible contributor to any increase. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
increase central storage to an lpar
hi, i need to add central storage to one of my lpar. is the only way is to by changing the central storage in the activation profile or there is any other way? there isn't any way to preform this when the lpar continue to work? i have 16G of central storage and 14G is spilt between the different lpars . is ther is any problem in adding 500m to one of the lpars? where in the HMC can i see how much central storage the machine have(in used,free) is there any central storage neede to be kept to the PR\SM? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
Don, I located the posting from Greg Dyck, and he recommends a minimum of 4-6 locals, with more being better. While the IT and System Checker may specify three Locals as a minimum, I believe there is a distinct difference between minimum and optimum. Greg's post Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:04:42 -0400 DO NOT DO THIS It is better to have many small local page datasets over a small number of large datasets. Think bandwidth. Think concurrency. Think queue lengths. Yes, dedicated paging devices are the ideal. But two is NOT enough. 4-6 local datasets are the MINIMUM, and more is better. If the choice is 2 dedicated vs 9 shared volumes, I would take the later. As others have stated, while the paging rate is low under normal conditions, when a spike hits (such as during a SVC dump, when the system is in trouble already) the sh*t will hit the fan when your whole system locks up for up to several minutes due to paging being constrained to a couple of local page datasets. It is best to keep all local page datasets close to the same size. It's not required, mind you, but best due to the slot allocation algorithms. Your average utilization is probably a little high too. You DO need more paging space, but I suggest additional datasets on other volumes. In searching for this I read many, many posts from Greg regarding the paging configurations. He almost never missed a chance to say that more is better on the subject of number of locals. I also realized how much he contributed to this list, and it's a shame that he stopped posting back in 2005. Ron _ From: Ron Hawkins [mailto:ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:08 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: [IBM-MAIN] PAGE datasets -- few large or more small Don, I dug out these old recommendations from Greg Dyck. Note that he shoots down my is 30% a myth idea. - Individual local page datasets should not exceed 30% (or 25% if you choose) utilization because the contigious slot allocation algorithm becomes inefficient/unsuccessful for that dataset. The utilization% at a total paging subsystem level is irrelevent with respect to the algorithms. - All local page datasets should be the same size (or close to it in slots) and device type because of ASMs round robin allocation algorithm. If one page dataset has 12000 slots and another has 24000 the utilization% on the second will be about 1/2 of the first. - Paging bandwidth is as important as paging space. Converting 9 page datasets to 3 page datasets of triple size will probably impact performance. More smaller page datasets is always better over fewer large page datasets. - A volume should only have a single local page dataset on it, and no other datasets. Use of WLM managed PAVs by ASM can be used to eliminate this restriction. Depending on the actual storage subsystem backing a page dataset it may or may not be reasonable to have multiple systems using a volume with a page dataset on it. The archives don't go back further than 2005, but I am sure I recall Greg had posted several years ago the optimum number of Locals starts at eight. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] PAGE datasets -- few large or more small Another question on page data set sizes... We only have 1 DS8000 controller. All volumes are raid 5 and metro mirrored to a second off-site DS8000 controller. Which configuration is most likely to have the best performance? Which configuration is most likely to have the best RAS? 1. A few large paging volumes (mod-9 or bigger), each with a single page data set. 2. A lot of small paging volumes (mod-3 or smaller) each with a single page data set. 3. Something in between.
Re: Page Dataset Question
IIRC, Isn't it suggested to allocate one Local on a full volume? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.comwrote: This is a performance issue. In order for ASM not to care, the pages are distributed (roughly equally) across all available page datsets. If the algorithm were to take into account the available space: 1) the additional overhead of keep track (probably miniscue per IO, but imagine a paging rate of 100's or even thousands per second. (this actually happened in the good old days). 2) The concentration of pages in the larger page dataset would create a hot spot in the aux stor subsystem and provide uneven performance, depending on where your stolen pages were. snip Wouldn't it make more sense if distributed equally were defined as a percentage of available space rather than number of pages? /snip All this does is allow for human error if the page ds's are not sized equally! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
When all is well with the world, our paging is near zero. With response time sensitive users (doctors, nurses, etc.), if we are paging, we buy more memory. So the main purpose of our paging system is just to provide the required backing for the all the virtual memory in use. However, in the real world, stuff happens so you have to be able to handle those problems quickly. When all hell breaks out, our paging can peak to 100 to 200 pages per second (e.g., during an SVC dump). So the paging system has to be able to handle that peak. Historically, I have followed the 25% to 30% ROT for block paging. However, since we do so little paging in general, I not really sure how much benefit we are getting from that, but it cheap to do it. My real question was really more pointed to the fact that we have only 1 DS8000 controller. In other words, we cannot spread the paging across multiple physical controllers. We can spread things over many virtual control units and many virtual volumes, but they are all on the same physical hardware. Since I'm not well versed in the DS8000 architecture, I have to treat the DS8000 like a black box, therefore it is difficult to know which configuration would work best. Thanks, Don -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
I forgot to mention, we use Dynamic PAV. We have not enable HyperPAV, yet. I'm not sure if paging I/O supports HyperPAV or not. When all is well with the world, our paging is near zero. With response time sensitive users (doctors, nurses, etc.), if we are paging, we buy more memory. So the main purpose of our paging system is just to provide the required backing for the all the virtual memory in use. However, in the real world, stuff happens so you have to be able to handle those problems quickly. When all hell breaks out, our paging can peak to 100 to 200 pages per second (e.g., during an SVC dump). So the paging system has to be able to handle that peak. Historically, I have followed the 25% to 30% ROT for block paging. However, since we do so little paging in general, I not really sure how much benefit we are getting from that, but it cheap to do it. My real question was really more pointed to the fact that we have only 1 DS8000 controller. In other words, we cannot spread the paging across multiple physical controllers. We can spread things over many virtual control units and many virtual volumes, but they are all on the same physical hardware. Since I'm not well versed in the DS8000 architecture, I have to treat the DS8000 like a black box, therefore it is difficult to know which configuration would work best. Thanks, Don -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Finding HSA
I've checked the archives, manuals but just can't seem to find an answer for this. Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? TIA... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
Patrick Falcone wrote: I've checked the archives, manuals but just can't seem to find an answer for this. Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? IIRC, you have to start SIngle Object Operations from the HMC to the SE. There is a storage map function of some kind associated withe the CPC. In the older OS/2-based HMC it was a graphical pie chart. In more recent incarnations it was a text report. I believe it showed allocated HSA. (I can't check myself because our z10 no longer surfaces or supports customer HSA.) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
IIRC, Use HMC to go to Single Object Operations. From there go to Storage Information in CPC Operational Customization. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick Falcone Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Finding HSA I've checked the archives, manuals but just can't seem to find an answer for this. Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? TIA... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
Don, At a guess you probably have eight channels per LCU, and your volumes are configured on RAID-5 with 6+P+S or 7+P. In terms of potential parallel IO that makes eight locals look really good as a starting point for handling your peaks. If you have more paths and array groups then you can always have more than eight locals. You can use Custom Sized Volumes to allocate many, small volumes for Locals, or with Dynamic PAV you can put many small locals on one volume - one volume still has eight channels and 7 or eight underlying HDD. Note that the number of HDD is important for Page-ins, as they are usually cache misses. EMC and HDS customers can use Permacache or FlashAccess to create cache-locked Page Datasets for better-than-Flashdrive paging performance. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] PAGE datasets -- few large or more small When all is well with the world, our paging is near zero. With response time sensitive users (doctors, nurses, etc.), if we are paging, we buy more memory. So the main purpose of our paging system is just to provide the required backing for the all the virtual memory in use. However, in the real world, stuff happens so you have to be able to handle those problems quickly. When all hell breaks out, our paging can peak to 100 to 200 pages per second (e.g., during an SVC dump). So the paging system has to be able to handle that peak. Historically, I have followed the 25% to 30% ROT for block paging. However, since we do so little paging in general, I not really sure how much benefit we are getting from that, but it cheap to do it. My real question was really more pointed to the fact that we have only 1 DS8000 controller. In other words, we cannot spread the paging across multiple physical controllers. We can spread things over many virtual control units and many virtual volumes, but they are all on the same physical hardware. Since I'm not well versed in the DS8000 architecture, I have to treat the DS8000 like a black box, therefore it is difficult to know which configuration would work best. Thanks, Don -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Page Dataset Question
Cobe, I've never seen that suggested or recommended. As Mr Merrill says Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Page Dataset Question IIRC, Isn't it suggested to allocate one Local on a full volume? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.comwrote: This is a performance issue. In order for ASM not to care, the pages are distributed (roughly equally) across all available page datsets. If the algorithm were to take into account the available space: 1) the additional overhead of keep track (probably miniscue per IO, but imagine a paging rate of 100's or even thousands per second. (this actually happened in the good old days). 2) The concentration of pages in the larger page dataset would create a hot spot in the aux stor subsystem and provide uneven performance, depending on where your stolen pages were. snip Wouldn't it make more sense if distributed equally were defined as a percentage of available space rather than number of pages? /snip All this does is allow for human error if the page ds's are not sized equally! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WEB Print Server Shopping
Hi Jim, We use the LRS products to do all that you listed and much more. I will be glad to give you the specifics. Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:21:14 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: WEB Print Server Shopping We are big into TN3270 Telnet Associated Printing here and are getting to the point where thousands of users will be added who need to get output off the IBM JES2 Spool. Naturally the applications are not willing to modify anything as to where they might put this output except the Warm and Fuzzy JES2 Spool. Has anyone implemented any kind of Web Print Server where 1. accessible using just a Web Browser 2. sucks the print off the Jes2 Spool 3. runs entirely on z/OS or maybe z/OS Linux; makes it easier to stay with our Disaster Recovery. 4. gives the user the output printed on them PC printers exactly like it would have printed, text wise, on a JES2 Printer. Maybe converts it into a PDF for viewing and later printing 5. Uses RACF Security for sign-on 6. Has the ability to requeue back to the JES2 Spool to print someplace else on remote printers. I think this is enough for someone to recognize if they are running something close. Let me know either on list or offlist if needed. thanks jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Page Dataset Question
Since the ASM change to support large page data sets (z/OS 1.10, rolled back to 1.8 1.9 via APAR OA20749), we've been using full volume 3390-9 for locals and in some of our very large LPARs full volume 3390-27 volumes. Since we couldn't support WLM PAVs in some environments (shared DASD between sysplexes), we've never had more than one local per volume. And as someone already mentioned, HIPERPAV doesn't address this (unless that code was fixed in 1.11 - I don't recall). I think was we migrated DASD the ROT was to put it on 3390-27 as long as there were at least 4 of them (to be the equivalent of the former space allocated on 3390-3). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:07:16 -0800, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Cobe, I've never seen that suggested or recommended. As Mr Merrill says Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cobe Xu Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Page Dataset Question IIRC, Isn't it suggested to allocate one Local on a full volume? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.comwrote: This is a performance issue. In order for ASM not to care, the pages are distributed (roughly equally) across all available page datsets. If the algorithm were to take into account the available space: 1) the additional overhead of keep track (probably miniscue per IO, but imagine a paging rate of 100's or even thousands per second. (this actually happened in the good old days). 2) The concentration of pages in the larger page dataset would create a hot spot in the aux stor subsystem and provide uneven performance, depending on where your stolen pages were. snip Wouldn't it make more sense if distributed equally were defined as a percentage of available space rather than number of pages? /snip All this does is allow for human error if the page ds's are not sized equally! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Cobe Xu Best Regards --- zOS Performance Capacity Analyst E2E Performance Analyst Email: cob...@gmail.com --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
So how is you paging rate when the system takes a dump?
Actually, the last time it happened (a large CICS/DB2 application), the paging
rate wasn't too bad.
Memory was more than adequate -- it is part of the config.
As the old cliche says: the best paging I/O is the one that doesn't happen!
Like most capacity planning, the paging configuration is not about most of
the time, it is about peak demand.
Don't teach your grandmother how to suck eggs! (8-{]}
Unfortunately, while I know that is a basic axiom in Capacity Planning,
management doesn't always buy into the premise, and will only let you configure
for 'most of the time'.
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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Re: Finding HSA
Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? It's an old fragment in my ancient memory, but look up the D IOS oper command. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
We only have four DASD FICON channels from each z10 (2). So all LCUs share the same eight channels (four from each processor). Each FICON channel can handle multiple concurrent I/O's (FICON handles eight concurrent operations?). I don't know how many concurrent I/Os a DS8000 LCU can handle. Would it be 64 (2 processors x 4 channels/processor x 8 operations/channel) or some lesser number? If it 32/processor, then what I am worrying about? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small Don, At a guess you probably have eight channels per LCU, and your volumes are configured on RAID-5 with 6+P+S or 7+P. In terms of potential parallel IO that makes eight locals look really good as a starting point for handling your peaks. If you have more paths and array groups then you can always have more than eight locals. You can use Custom Sized Volumes to allocate many, small volumes for Locals, or with Dynamic PAV you can put many small locals on one volume - one volume still has eight channels and 7 or eight underlying HDD. Note that the number of HDD is important for Page-ins, as they are usually cache misses. EMC and HDS customers can use Permacache or FlashAccess to create cache-locked Page Datasets for better-than-Flashdrive paging performance. Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
Yes, D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Finding HSA Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? It's an old fragment in my ancient memory, but look up the D IOS oper command. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
Even on an older machine, that command is only valid in BASIC mode, not for an LPAR. Well, the command is valid, it just won't give you the information the OP wants. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:28:14 -0500, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Finding HSA Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? It's an old fragment in my ancient memory, but look up the D IOS oper command. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
Yes, D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) Sometimes, the memory actually works. But, I'm finding (at my age) it's becoming more an more 'write-only'! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
Well this tells me how many of what I can add to the HSA but I need to see how much storage HSA has allocated on the machine. I would think that will come from the HMC and some panel navigation. It's a long story but I got burned recently trying to squeeze and need to update my cheat sheet matrix with more valid numbers than I currently have. and thanks Ted...and all --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Don Williams donb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Finding HSA To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:28 PM Yes, D IOS,CONFIG(HSA) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Finding HSA Is there a way to find the amount allocated to HSA on the older machines? It's an old fragment in my ancient memory, but look up the D IOS oper command. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
Even on an older machine, that command is only valid in BASIC mode, not for an LPAR. Well, the command is valid, it just won't give you the information the OP wants. IIRC, it doesn't give memory in PR/SM mode, it just tells you how many more dynamic devices are eligible. But, I haven't used it on anything more modern than a z/900. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Receive e-mails on z/OS
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 02:02:47 -0800, Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote: many of our batch jobs take their input from data sent us Hello list, many of our batch jobs take their input from data sent us by means of e-mail attachments. Attachments are manually stored on PCs, uploaded to z/OS, then batch starts. This is obviously a manual and error prone process. Therefore I ve been asked to see if it's possible to setup z/OS in order to receive and handle e-mails and their attachments which will eventually feed our batch. Having already SMTP for outbound e-mails, I started from it and, thanks to Steve Comstock's SMTP saga on ibm-main, I've been able to set it up to receive e-mails. But the TSO RECEIVE seems not to be able to handle attachments,unless I missed something. Before reading the many publication on this matter, I would like to ask what would you recommend for this goal. SMTP or sendmail ? Any other valid ISV alternatives ? Any pointer to publications/Redbooks which would help ? Your input is highly appreciated. Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany __ If you have either WPS or SAS Base on z/OS, you can easily send/receive EMAILs (either text-format, HTML- or some others - imbedded in the EMAIL body) and optionally with attachments. Suitable links provided below (mind any URL wrap): WPS - Language Elements reference, search for EMAIL access method: http://teamwpc.co.uk/docs/WPS-Reference-for-Language-Elements.pdf SAS - Sending E-Mail from within SAS Software http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/hosto390/61886/HTML/default/a001412669.htm Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
I think it's 32 ops per channel, and the DS8000 can handle it. Since you are using dynamic PAV, I would have somewhere in the range of 8 to 16 locals per LPAR, but be sure to balance them across the two sides of the DS8000 for maximum throughput. There should be no problems with multiple locals per volume whether from the same and/or different LPARs. In fact, if you are using the DS8000 feature to stripe volumes across RAID groups, then each 1113 cylinder segment of the volumes will be on a different RAID group. Don Williams donb...@gmail.com 1/21/2010 1:18 PM We only have four DASD FICON channels from each z10 (2). So all LCUs share the same eight channels (four from each processor). Each FICON channel can handle multiple concurrent I/O's (FICON handles eight concurrent operations?). I don't know how many concurrent I/Os a DS8000 LCU can handle. Would it be 64 (2 processors x 4 channels/processor x 8 operations/channel) or some lesser number? If it 32/processor, then what I am worrying about? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small Don, At a guess you probably have eight channels per LCU, and your volumes are configured on RAID-5 with 6+P+S or 7+P. In terms of potential parallel IO that makes eight locals look really good as a starting point for handling your peaks. If you have more paths and array groups then you can always have more than eight locals. You can use Custom Sized Volumes to allocate many, small volumes for Locals, or with Dynamic PAV you can put many small locals on one volume - one volume still has eight channels and 7 or eight underlying HDD. Note that the number of HDD is important for Page-ins, as they are usually cache misses. EMC and HDS customers can use Permacache or FlashAccess to create cache-locked Page Datasets for better-than-Flashdrive paging performance. Ron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
Greetings, I am trying to adjust a WLM service class for an FTP GET process coming from another host. The process is assigned a service class from the interactive workload group. I added a new transaction name to assign a different service class in the interactive group and it was ignored. Then I noticed that the process actually runs as a started task. So I swapped the transaction name rule to the STC group. Still didn't assign the proper service class. The process is picking up the default interactive group service class. This is meant for TSO users, so it has 2nd and 3rd period defined. The FTP usually runs right at the start of our batch cycle, so there aren't many resources available. When the process drops into 2nd and 3rd period, it basically hangs. If I manually increase the service class, it runs fine and completes fairly quickly. Any ideas on how to properly assign a service class to a process like this ??? Thanks, Dave K. -- This e-mail transmission may contain information that is proprietary, privileged and/or confidential and is intended exclusively for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. Any use, copying, retention or disclosure by any person other than the intended recipient or the intended recipient's designees is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient or their designee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. OppenheimerFunds may, at its sole discretion, monitor, review, retain and/or disclose the content of all email communications. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
Any ideas on how to properly assign a service class to a process like this ??? 1. Find the userid (USS) used by FTP. 2. Go to the OMVS section of your policy. 3. Use a UI (instance) matching the userid, and assign that to your appropriate Service Class. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: increase central storage to an lpar
The only way to add storage is to update the IMAGE profile for the LPAR and then shut down the LPAR. Be sure to DEACTIVATE (from the HMC) the LPAR and then IPL. If the memory isn't available the activate will fail. And coincidently in another thread Don Williams says: Use HMC to go to Single Object Operations. From there go to Storage Information in CPC Operational Customization. Depending on your processor model you might not have 16G available. HSA on z9 and earlier processors is taken from the total storage. Use the HMC to see how much available storage you have to play with. I think the max HSA on a z9 is 2.5G - that's how much I take out before allocating the rest to LPARs. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ??? Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:02 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: increase central storage to an lpar hi, i need to add central storage to one of my lpar. is the only way is to by changing the central storage in the activation profile or there is any other way? there isn't any way to preform this when the lpar continue to work? i have 16G of central storage and 14G is spilt between the different lpars . is ther is any problem in adding 500m to one of the lpars? where in the HMC can i see how much central storage the machine have(in used,free) is there any central storage neede to be kept to the PR\SM? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Finding HSA
You know what's entertaining searching the operating system command manual is the different names for HSA, Hardware Storage Area, Hardware Systems Area. In fact I thought it was Hardware Save Area partial to Hardware Storage Area myself... --- On Thu, 1/21/10, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Subject: Re: Finding HSA To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 6:37 PM Even on an older machine, that command is only valid in BASIC mode, not for an LPAR. Well, the command is valid, it just won't give you the information the OP wants. IIRC, it doesn't give memory in PR/SM mode, it just tells you how many more dynamic devices are eligible. But, I haven't used it on anything more modern than a z/900. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: increase central storage to an lpar
The only way to add storage is to update the IMAGE profile for the LPAR and then shut down the LPAR. Be sure to DEACTIVATE (from the HMC) the LPAR and then IPL. There is another way, requiring pre-work, and one deactivate/activate/re-IPL. That's assigning reserved memory (RSVD). How much depends on granularity, defined by how much memory is installed. See the PR/SM planning guide. But, if you haven't set it up, it still requires a de/re-activate sequence. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Quick start video tutorial about MFNetDisk tape manager.
HI, Quick start video tutorial about MFNetDisk tape manager. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUWcd5d1CU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlEkyEzdGN8 I will upload the new code to my site in one day or so. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
Our LCU are connected to 2 processors x 4 channels/processor x 32 operations/channel, so it needs to handle 128 concurrent operations. Of course, the other LCUs are sharing the same physical connections, so at any given instance it is unlikely that a LCU could actually have that many at once. Thanks, Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small I think it's 32 ops per channel, and the DS8000 can handle it. Since you are using dynamic PAV, I would have somewhere in the range of 8 to 16 locals per LPAR, but be sure to balance them across the two sides of the DS8000 for maximum throughput. There should be no problems with multiple locals per volume whether from the same and/or different LPARs. In fact, if you are using the DS8000 feature to stripe volumes across RAID groups, then each 1113 cylinder segment of the volumes will be on a different RAID group. Don Williams donb...@gmail.com 1/21/2010 1:18 PM We only have four DASD FICON channels from each z10 (2). So all LCUs share the same eight channels (four from each processor). Each FICON channel can handle multiple concurrent I/O's (FICON handles eight concurrent operations?). I don't know how many concurrent I/Os a DS8000 LCU can handle. Would it be 64 (2 processors x 4 channels/processor x 8 operations/channel) or some lesser number? If it 32/processor, then what I am worrying about? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: increase central storage to an lpar
I did consider that when I replied, but decided to ignore that option in order to keep the response simple. Thanks for adding Ted. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 13:06 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: increase central storage to an lpar The only way to add storage is to update the IMAGE profile for the LPAR and then shut down the LPAR. Be sure to DEACTIVATE (from the HMC) the LPAR and then IPL. There is another way, requiring pre-work, and one deactivate/activate/re-IPL. That's assigning reserved memory (RSVD). How much depends on granularity, defined by how much memory is installed. See the PR/SM planning guide. But, if you haven't set it up, it still requires a de/re-activate sequence. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help JES2 : Release sysouts with status user
Albert, These outputs - are they from a remote device? They look suspiciously like an RJE names or perhaps RDR names. Could you do a $TO?(xx),LONG and send it to the group? ? = S for STC, T for TSU and J for Job x the number of the task. Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help JES2 : Release sysouts with status user
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 18:01:38 -0600, Albert Venetitay albert.veneti...@numericable.com wrote: Hi all, We have several sysouts awaiting to be sent to another node, but all these sysouts have a status user ,which I believe, prevents them to be sent the defined node . I did'nt find any JES2 commands in the manual ,related to this status user. Are there any undocumented JES2 commands to solve this problem or anyone had this situation ,or any ideas to get thes sysouts sent to the desired node? For information we have this situation after an IPL. The jobnames are identical,since ther were multiple runs. Many thanks in advance for your help and suggestions. I have attached below a hardcopy of the sdsf log. Albert VENETITAY GCE Technologies 93 BAGNOLET FRANCE NP JOBNAME FCB UCS Flash Burst Wtr ODisp Status DestN RD05898 NO WRITE USER JES2DMVS RD05898 NO WRITE USER JES2DMVS RD05898 NO WRITE USER JES2DMVS RD05898 NO WRITE USER JES2DMVS Was that destid dynamically added and then lost with the IPL? Try to display it - $D DEStid 'destname' -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:58:48 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Any ideas on how to properly assign a service class to a process like this ??? 1. Find the userid (USS) used by FTP. 2. Go to the OMVS section of your policy. 3. Use a UI (instance) matching the userid, and assign that to your appropriate Service Class. This is how I set it up. Doesn't work. Unless the user ID is being munged somewhere ??? I'll look at that a little closer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
Also, make sure you get the case correct. We got burned once when it wasn't folded to uppercase and didn't match. Bobby Herring System Programmer Texas Farm Bureau Ins Waco, TX CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The foregoing message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communication Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. sections 2510-2521, and is CONFIDENTIAL. If you believe that it has been sent to you in error, do not read it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:58:48 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Any ideas on how to properly assign a service class to a process like this ??? 1. Find the userid (USS) used by FTP. 2. Go to the OMVS section of your policy. 3. Use a UI (instance) matching the userid, and assign that to your appropriate Service Class. This is how I set it up. Doesn't work. Unless the user ID is being munged somewhere ??? I'll look at that a little closer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS SSHD Configuration Issue
On 1/21/2010 at 02:58 AM, Anson Ye ye.an...@yahoo.com wrote: I have no idea how to fix this issue Please advise. Thanks! What does the client show if you use ssh -v when you try to connect? Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
This is how I set it up. Doesn't work. Unless the user ID is being munged somewhere ??? I'll look at that a little closer. It worked for me with HOD, TCP/IP, TN3270, and FTP(d) many years ago. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help JES2 : Release sysouts with status user
Lizette, Here follows the display job with the log parameter : -$DOJ(62977),LONG JOB62977 $HASP686 OUTPUT(RD05898) $HASP686 OUTPUT(RD05898) OUTGRP=2.1.1,BURST=NO,FCB=, $HASP686 FLASH=,FORMS=ODE1,HOLD=(NONE), $HASP686 OFFS=(),OUTDISP=WRITE,PRIORITY=9, $HASP686 PRMODE=LINE,QUEUE=W, $HASP686 RECORDS=(26 OF 26),ROUTECDE=JES2DMVS, $HASP686 SECLABEL=,TSOAVAIL=NO,UCS=, $HASP686 USERID=A2P01GX,WRITER=,REBUILD=NO, $HASP686 CRTIME=(2010.004,08:11:04) -$D DESTID 'JES2DMVS' $HASP822 DESTID(JES2DMVS) DEST=N2,STATUS=NODENAME,PRIMARY=NO . Paul, You are right, in fact the destid and the nodename was added dynamically, before the IPL. Thanks for your replies. Best regards, Albert Venetitay -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:41:49 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: This is how I set it up. Doesn't work. Unless the user ID is being munged somewhere ??? I'll look at that a little closer. It worked for me with HOD, TCP/IP, TN3270, and FTP(d) many years ago. - I don't know then. I just double checked and I have the User ID correct. It's all upper case. And it takes the default service class no matter what. Hm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
FTP has an OMVS component. Use the OMVS section for workload classification. You might also want to review the default service class for each workload classification. HTH, snip I am trying to adjust a WLM service class for an FTP GET process coming from another host. The process is assigned a service class from the interactive workload group. I added a new transaction name to assign a different service class in the interactive group and it was ignored. Then I noticed that the process actually runs as a started task. So I swapped the transaction name rule to the STC group. Still didn't assign the proper service class. The process is picking up the default interactive group service class. This is meant for TSO users, so it has 2nd and 3rd period defined. The FTP usually runs right at the start of our batch cycle, so there aren't many resources available. When the process drops into 2nd and 3rd period, it basically hangs. If I manually increase the service class, it runs fine and completes fairly quickly. Any ideas on how to properly assign a service class to a process like this ??? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:05:44 -0600, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: Have you, by some happenstance, ever issued a manual command to change the class? I've found that WLM will sometimes hold the result of the last manual command. Like a: RESET FTPPROD,SRVCLASS=?? kind of manual change ??? Or something specific to WLM ??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
Someone in management here wants to know what the sampling interval is for the calculation by the z10 hardware of the 4hr rolling average MSU's that is used to trigger softcapping. Would one of the performance gurus here please point me to the FM where I can find this information for z10 EC machines? TIA for your assistance. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:05:35 -0600, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: FTP has an OMVS component. Use the OMVS section for workload classification. You might also want to review the default service class for each workload classification. That's how I had it set up. That's what Ted suggested too. Since it wasn't assigning the proper service class, I changed it to the STC group. I just changed it back and defined a user ID group and made sure I typed the user ID in all upper case. Getting ready to try it again and see what happens. One thing I just noticed though, when I swapped the service class over to STC, I didn't change the Workload Name within the service class. Would that possibly keep it from assigning properly ??? Hmm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Library Server Response Time Problem
Since upgrading to zos1.9 the response time of library server is slow. When selecting a book case, shelf or book there is a 6-8 second wait time for the page to come up. Once a book is open the wait time appears to be a little less from page to page, but still about 5 seconds. Can anyone make suggestions to improve this performance? Another question pertains to searches (they are slow also). When searching a book, the search of abc works ok, but searching for a string like abc(abc) causes an error of errno 133 = EDC5133I No space left on device. Any help on the above 2 items is appreciated, thanks. Matt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
Have you, by some happenstance, ever issued a manual command to change the class? I've found that WLM will sometimes hold the result of the last manual command. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:41:49 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: This is how I set it up. Doesn't work. Unless the user ID is being munged somewhere ??? I'll look at that a little closer. It worked for me with HOD, TCP/IP, TN3270, and FTP(d) many years ago. - I don't know then. I just double checked and I have the User ID correct. It's all upper case. And it takes the default service class no matter what. Hm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)
I could see the VM numbers going up due to Linux. Since kVM is an integral part of RHEL 5.4, has anyone tried to get it working on a z box? While it may not perform as well as zVM, the price could make it competitive. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facilities Design and Operations Contract Strategic Technical Engineering NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Mail: P.O. Box 58487 Mail Code H4C Houston, Texas 77258-8487 Phone: Voice: (281)336-5027 Cell: (713)591-1059 Fax:(281)336-5410 E-Mail: dennis.ro...@lmco.com All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or manufactured, since the beginning of time. -Original Message- From: RACF Discussion List [mailto:rac...@listserv.uga.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:43 PM To: rac...@listserv.uga.edu Subject: Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article) 2010/1/21 D E Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za: Various analysts report more than 15,000 mainframe installations worldwide, Where is the source of that claim? IBM will NEVER divulge it. NEVER! IBM had a poster they distributed in the 1990s saying VM soars with 20,000 licences. So at least at one point they provided a bottom limit. One imagines the number is much lower today, and was never that high for MVS. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small
I seriously doubt you have anything to worry about, I often drive my DS8300 at 30% channel busy over 16 FICONs concurrently - well above what I expect your channel config would allow. Max throughput, of course, depends on your DS8000 model and cache config, but it can handle a mess of concurrent I/O. Don Williams donb...@gmail.com 1/21/2010 2:12 PM Our LCU are connected to 2 processors x 4 channels/processor x 32 operations/channel, so it needs to handle 128 concurrent operations. Of course, the other LCUs are sharing the same physical connections, so at any given instance it is unlikely that a LCU could actually have that many at once. Thanks, Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PAGE datasets -- few large or more small I think it's 32 ops per channel, and the DS8000 can handle it. Since you are using dynamic PAV, I would have somewhere in the range of 8 to 16 locals per LPAR, but be sure to balance them across the two sides of the DS8000 for maximum throughput. There should be no problems with multiple locals per volume whether from the same and/or different LPARs. In fact, if you are using the DS8000 feature to stripe volumes across RAID groups, then each 1113 cylinder segment of the volumes will be on a different RAID group. Don Williams donb...@gmail.com 1/21/2010 1:18 PM We only have four DASD FICON channels from each z10 (2). So all LCUs share the same eight channels (four from each processor). Each FICON channel can handle multiple concurrent I/O's (FICON handles eight concurrent operations?). I don't know how many concurrent I/Os a DS8000 LCU can handle. Would it be 64 (2 processors x 4 channels/processor x 8 operations/channel) or some lesser number? If it 32/processor, then what I am worrying about? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
Resent plain text, sorry for the formatted one previously. Someone in management here wants to know what the sampling interval is for the calculation by the z10 hardware of the 4hr rolling average MSU's that is used to trigger softcapping. Would one of the performance gurus here please point me to the FM where I can find this information for z10 EC machines? TIA for your assistance. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The Naked Mainframe (Forbes Security Article)
Tony Harminc wrote: IBM had a poster they distributed in the 1990s saying VM soars with 20,000 licences. So at least at one point they provided a bottom limit. One imagines the number is much lower today, and was never that high for MVS. And they admitted at one point that the 20K included OTCs that had never been heard from again. Sort of like McDonald's claiming to have hundreds of billions of customers based on the number of burgers they've sold -- not untrue, but not precisely true, either. Best guess I've heard recently is something like 4000 z/OS, 1500 z/VM, 1500 z/VSE, under 100 z/TPF. But those are clearly darts; the rankings are about right, but that's the only part I'd bank on. And barely that... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:50:38 -0600, Dave Kopischke dgkopisc...@oppenheimerfunds.com wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:41:49 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: This is how I set it up. Doesn't work. Unless the user ID is being munged somewhere ??? I'll look at that a little closer. It worked for me with HOD, TCP/IP, TN3270, and FTP(d) many years ago. - I don't know then. I just double checked and I have the User ID correct. It's all upper case. And it takes the default service class no matter what. The OMVS default service class? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:21:34 -0600, Dave Kopischke dgkopisc...@oppenheimerfunds.com wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:05:35 -0600, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: FTP has an OMVS component. Use the OMVS section for workload classification. You might also want to review the default service class for each workload classification. That's how I had it set up. That's what Ted suggested too. Since it wasn't assigning the proper service class, I changed it to the STC group. I just changed it back and defined a user ID group and made sure I typed the user ID in all upper case. Getting ready to try it again and see what happens. One thing I just noticed though, when I swapped the service class over to STC, I didn't change the Workload Name within the service class. Would that possibly keep it from assigning properly ??? Hmm What does swapping the SC over to STC mean? Are you confusing the FTP daemon's SC with the process that gets started when someone initiates the FTP? Once the FTP is initiated, do you see the process in an SDSF PS screen or have you tried doing a unix ps display like ps -Af (do it as superuser) to see what is says is the userid? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Getmain Freemain?
if OPEN honors your request for buffers above the 16 MB line, you should either avoid the FREEPOOL macro ... What crappy design! If OPEN *honors* your request ... So in other words they are saying that you still need a FREEPOOL in your code, and it now has to have *more* code added to it (either by you or in the newer FREEPOOL macro) to see whether it is appropriate. A much better design would have been to say if you request buffers above the line, then CLOSE will free them whether they are actually above the line or not -- in other words, if you code RMODE31=BUFF you can eliminate the FREEPOOL. This oddity may explain my having been burned by omitting FREEPOOL -- for some reason the buffers may at least once have ended up below the line and not been freed. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Getmain Freemain? you can request an automatic FREEPOOL with a parameter in the DCBE I've got code that is commented as follows: FREEPOOL (R4) NOT NEEDED WITH BUFFS ABOVE LINE ??? * SO DOC CLAIMS BUT I GET GETBUF * FAILURES ON SUBSEQUENT OPENS It's one of those classic programming things. I suspect I cloned this code from some other piece of code. Perhaps the GETBUF failure was unrelated but who wants to take a chance and debug it again? Once burned, twice shy. The doc for DCBE RMODE31=BUFF says In releases prior to DFSMS/MVS 1.1, FREEPOOL is typically issued after CLOSE since CLOSE does not free the QSAM 24-bit buffers. However, if OPEN honors your request for buffers above the 16 MB line, you should either avoid the FREEPOOL macro, or reassemble the program with the FREEPOOL macro. At DFSMS/MVS 1.1, the FREEPOOL expansion tests whether the buffer pool exists before attempting to free it. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:17:36 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... I don't know then. I just double checked and I have the User ID correct. It's all upper case. And it takes the default service class no matter what. The OMVS default service class? Yes, the default for INT which includes OMVS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
I think this might be it: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA27623 If this applies, then 8,000,000 samples over 10 minutes is the default. I would note that it might actually take a couple of minutes before the cap was activated. It is a running average, so it would take WLM a lot longer to react to an abrupt increase as opposed to a slow ramp up. That doesn't matter since you are billed at the actual R4A or the cap value, whichever is lower. Wonder what the manager really wants to know? HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented? Resent plain text, sorry for the formatted one previously. Someone in management here wants to know what the sampling interval is for the calculation by the z10 hardware of the 4hr rolling average MSU's that is used to trigger softcapping. Would one of the performance gurus here please point me to the FM where I can find this information for z10 EC machines? TIA for your assistance. Peter This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:25:43 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... One thing I just noticed though, when I swapped the service class over to STC, I didn't change the Workload Name within the service class. Would that possibly keep it from assigning properly ??? Hmm What does swapping the SC over to STC mean? Instead of making up a new service class, I just added a rule under STC to assign the existing service class to the JOB name. There is a workload name in the service class definition though. I did not change that though, so I'm not sure if that might have kept it from being assigned. Are you confusing the FTP daemon's SC with the process that gets started when someone initiates the FTP? Once the FTP is initiated, do you see the process in an SDSF PS screen or have you tried doing a unix ps display like ps -Af (do it as superuser) to see what is says is the userid? No, I see the daemon and see other daemons spawn as connections and commands are run. I found the user ID with the Display line command in SDSF PS. I displayed the process to ensure I had the names right - FTPPROD. There is a started task that I believe is associated with the OMVS process. The started task is what actually receives the default service class that keeps the FTP from running. Once I manually set the service class on the started task, the FTP process finishes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
Thanks Hal. Interesting, but I almost can't believe that the hypervisor is taking 800,000 samples per minute all the time. Isn't that a drain on the whole system's performance? Also, I see that the doc you noticed is under changes for a z/OS manual, so maybe that's a z/OS software reporting tool sampling rate and not the actual hypervisor rate? As to why the information is being requested: I'm just the messenger. Follow-up question: Where could I find a basic overview of soft-capping hardware and software on a z10? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented? I think this might be it: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA27623 If this applies, then 8,000,000 samples over 10 minutes is the default. I would note that it might actually take a couple of minutes before the cap was activated. It is a running average, so it would take WLM a lot longer to react to an abrupt increase as opposed to a slow ramp up. That doesn't matter since you are billed at the actual R4A or the cap value, whichever is lower. Wonder what the manager really wants to know? HTH and good luck. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM and FTP GETS From Open Systems
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:01:55 -0600, Dave Kopischke dgkopisc...@oppenheimerfunds.com wrote: On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:25:43 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: ... One thing I just noticed though, when I swapped the service class over to STC, I didn't change the Workload Name within the service class. Would that possibly keep it from assigning properly ??? Hmm What does swapping the SC over to STC mean? Instead of making up a new service class, I just added a rule under STC to assign the existing service class to the JOB name. There is a workload name in the service class definition though. I did not change that though, so I'm not sure if that might have kept it from being assigned. Are you confusing the FTP daemon's SC with the process that gets started when someone initiates the FTP? Once the FTP is initiated, do you see the process in an SDSF PS screen or have you tried doing a unix ps display like ps -Af (do it as superuser) to see what is says is the userid? No, I see the daemon and see other daemons spawn as connections and commands are run. I found the user ID with the Display line command in SDSF PS. I displayed the process to ensure I had the names right - FTPPROD. There is a started task that I believe is associated with the OMVS process. The started task is what actually receives the default service class that keeps the FTP from running. Once I manually set the service class on the started task, the FTP process finishes. 2 things: 1) Initiate the FTP. After you initiate it, please do a D A,userid and post that. 2) Can you screen print the OMVS classification rules from WLM. It should like something like this one (from a sandbox plex here): Subsystem Type . : OMVSFold qualifier names? Y (Y or N) Description . . . OMVS Classification Action codes: A=After C=CopyM=Move I=Insert rule B=BeforeD=Delete row R=Repeat IS=Insert Sub-rule More === Qualifier ---Class ActionType Name StartService Report DEFAULTS: OMVSOMVS 1 TN CTG* ___ SYSSTC CICS 1 TN FTP* ___ SYSSTC NETWORK 1 TN ETCRC* ___ SYSSTC SYSTEM 1 TN ETCINIT* ___ SYSSTC SYSTEM 3) Screen print the service class specified under DEFAULTS. For example: Service Class Name . . . . . : OMVS Description . . . . . . . . . OMVS Service Workload Name . . . . . . . . OMVS (name or ?) Base Resource Group . . . . . (name or ?) Cpu Critical . . . . . . . . . NO(YES or NO) Specify BASE GOAL information. Action Codes: I=Insert new period, E=Edit period, D=Delete period. ---Period--- -Goal- Action # Duration Imp. Description __ __1 40002Execution velocity of 40 __2 4Execution velocity of 15 Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/resources/swprice/reference/index.html
for starters. There are a bunch of links thereabouts that lead to various
topics.
Note that most all of this is defined and controlled via the HMC ('the
hardware'). The software just looks at the data and reports it.
I was taken by the wording of 8 million samples over 10 minutes, not
800k/minute or 13k/second.
By the way, the SCRT folks are generally responsive and helpful.
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Farley, Peter x23353
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Subject: Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling
average documented?
Thanks Hal. Interesting, but I almost can't believe that the hypervisor
is taking 800,000 samples per minute all the time. Isn't that a drain
on the whole system's performance?
Also, I see that the doc you noticed is under changes for a z/OS manual,
so maybe that's a z/OS software reporting tool sampling rate and not the
actual hypervisor rate?
As to why the information is being requested: I'm just the messenger.
Follow-up question: Where could I find a basic overview of soft-capping
hardware and software on a z10?
Peter
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Subject: Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr
rolling average documented?
I think this might be it:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA27623
If this applies, then 8,000,000 samples over 10 minutes is the
default.
I would note that it might actually take a couple of minutes before
the
cap was activated. It is a running average, so it would take WLM a lot
longer to react to an abrupt increase as opposed to a slow ramp up.
That
doesn't matter since you are billed at the actual R4A or the cap
value,
whichever is lower.
Wonder what the manager really wants to know?
HTH and good luck.
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Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
Thanks again Hal, that page was very helpful. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/resources/swprice/reference/index.html for starters. There are a bunch of links thereabouts that lead to various topics. This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Help JES2 : Release sysouts with status user
Here is what I might do I might go ahead and in SDSF or with a JES2 command, route the job back to local on HOLD. Then route it to your node, then release the job. Hold Jobs Route to Local Route to JES2DMVS Release Jobs That might clear up things if there is any discrepancies in JES2. Lizette Lizette, Here follows the display job with the log parameter : -$DOJ(62977),LONG JOB62977 $HASP686 OUTPUT(RD05898) $HASP686 OUTPUT(RD05898) OUTGRP=2.1.1,BURST=NO,FCB=, $HASP686 FLASH=,FORMS=ODE1,HOLD=(NONE), $HASP686 OFFS=(),OUTDISP=WRITE,PRIORITY=9, $HASP686 PRMODE=LINE,QUEUE=W, $HASP686 RECORDS=(26 OF 26),ROUTECDE=JES2DMVS, $HASP686 SECLABEL=,TSOAVAIL=NO,UCS=, $HASP686 USERID=A2P01GX,WRITER=,REBUILD=NO, $HASP686 CRTIME=(2010.004,08:11:04) -$D DESTID 'JES2DMVS' $HASP822 DESTID(JES2DMVS) DEST=N2,STATUS=NODENAME,PRIMARY=NO . Paul, You are right, in fact the destid and the nodename was added dynamically, before the IPL. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Softcapping Q: Where is the sample interval for the 4hr rolling average documented?
Hal Merritt wrote: I think this might be it: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA27623 If this applies, then 8,000,000 samples over 10 minutes is the default. No. This is for hardware instrumentation services--a new feature on z10 that allows profiling of applications. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Getmain Freemain?
Charles Mills wrote: This oddity may explain my having been burned by omitting FREEPOOL -- for some reason the buffers may at least once have ended up below the line and not been freed. Unlikely. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RES: RES: PDSE allocated and used space
Sorry, but I couldn't find this specifc manual (DFSMSdfp Advanced Customization Guide) and more information about GETATTR function of FAMS. Could you or someone give me more details or some link with it ? Thanks in advance. Adauto -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de Edward Jaffe Enviada em: terça-feira, 19 de janeiro de 2010 23:51 Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Assunto: Re: RES: PDSE allocated and used space Adauto wrote: ... I have an assembler batch program where I need to obtain this kind of information. I would like to take this information through same macro or control block or ... What can I do in this case ? You get this information using the GETATTR function of FAMS. It's use is documented in the DFSMSdfp Advanced Customization Guide. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RES: RES: PDSE allocated and used space
Adauto wrote: Sorry, but I couldn't find this specifc manual (DFSMSdfp Advanced Customization Guide) and more information about GETATTR function of FAMS. Could you or someone give me more details or some link with it ? It's a secret (and quite expensive) book that one must license from IBM--even for the most basic query functions such as how many members in? or how full is? the library. IMHO, an astonishingly stupid decision. But, there it is... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to obtain TGTZONENAME in an existing SMPE dataset
Hi Hilario, Whenever I have to find a SMP/e CSI that I don't know the name of, I use CA-Disk to scan my volumes for datasets ending in .CSI. (I can give you the statements for CA-Disk if you want them) So, perhaps you could use whatever product or utility you have to find your CSI. Once you have the name of the CSI, go into the SMP/e panels under TSO, select 1, fill in the CSI you want to look at, press enter. Select 1, press enter and press enter at the next screen too. The next screen will list the zones for that CSI. The zone names, as well as the dataset name(s) will all be shown on the same panel. HTH, Linda Mooney - Original Message - From: Hilario cucho...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:54:10 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: How to obtain TGTZONENAME in an existing SMPE dataset Hi, I will try to list the DDDEF of a target SMP/E. Problem is that the file were created for a person that left the company and there isn't any documentation about it. I tried with the most usual names: MVST, MVST100, TGT1, and so on. I use this JCL to do this: //SMPE EXEC PGM=GIMSMP //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPOUT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPRPT DD SYSOUT=* //SMPSNAP DD SYSOUT=* //SMPCSI DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MVST.CSI //SMPCNTL DD * SET BDY(??). LIST DDDEF. /* My question is there any way to obtain this name ? Regards. Hilario -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX to delete all members of a PDS... serverpac CPPEDELM
Here's another method which works on a S/360 :) I have to shamefully admit the JCL is built using REXX and various ISPF facilitiesbut if you only have a card punch.. //* --*/ //* DELETE MEMBERS FROM THE LIBRARY */ //* --*/ //IEHPROGM EXEC PGM=IEHPROGM //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //MYDD DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=WRKVOL,DISP=SHR, //DSN=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE //SYSINDD * SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXFIX SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXKEYCHK SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXKEYS SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXRMCHK SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXRMCHKO SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXRMCHKR SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XXSQL SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XX2XXRM SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XX2PKG SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XX2UP SCRATCH DSNAME=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE,VOL=3390=(WRKVOL),MEMBER=XX2VTOC //* --*/ //* COMPRESS THE LIBRARY AFTER DELETES*/ //* --*/ //COMPRESS EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY //SYSUT1 DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE //SYSUT2 DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MYUSER.COBOL.SOURCE //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD DUMMY On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Victor Gil victor@broadridge.com wrote: The below REXX [from one of the dino sites, forgot which one] does the job. Can even be used as an action against a given PDS on the DSLIST panel. /* REXX */ /* DELETE ALL MEMBERS OF A GIVEN LIBRARY DSN */ TRACE 'N' /* TRACE 'R' */ /* TRACE 'O' */ PARSE UPPER ARG DSNAME DSN = STRIP(DSNAME, 'BOTH', ) /* IN CASE IT'S IN QUOTES */ QUOTE = ' QDSN = QUOTE||DSN||QUOTE /* FULLY QUOTED DSN */ ADDRESS ISPEXEC LMINIT DATAID( MYDATAID) DATASET( QDSN ) ENQ(SHRW) LMOPEN DATAID(MYDATAID) OPTION(OUTPUT) LMMDEL DATAID(MYDATAID) MEMBER(*) LMCLOSE DATAID(MYDATAID) LMFREE DATAID(MYDATAID) SAY DSN IS NOW EMPTY EXIT HTH, -Victor- On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:45:33 -0800, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com wrote: Some folks have asked about how to delete all members from a PDS without deleting the PDS. I just stumbled across this while doing a receive from ServerPac CPP. I noticed this REXX in and amongst the JCL. SCPPCENU(CPPEDELM) Everyone who has used CPP should have a copy. Its only about 100 lines of nicely written and documented REXX. Below is the basic JCL, of course you need your LOCAL ISPF/TSO data sets as in your logon proc... //DELMEM EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B,COND=(4000,LT) //* *** *** //* * DELETE ALL MEMBERS OF MASTER DIALOG DATA SETS * //* * (EXCEPT SCPPTENU) * //* *** *** //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPCENU //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPCENU //ISPMLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPMENU //ISPPLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPPENU //ISPSLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPSENU //ISPLLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPLOAD //ISPTLIB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MSYS.ZOS111.OS120544.SCPPTENU //ISPPROF DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=(NEW,DELETE), // DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120,RECFM=FB), // SPACE=(CYL,(1,1,1)) //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE PREFIX(AFITSUP) ISPSTART CMD(CPPEDELM) //SYSIN DD * MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPCENU MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPLOAD MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPMENU MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPPENU MSYS.CPP.D091130.SCPPSENU /* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Wayne V. Bickerdike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Thanks! Below is the ssh -v message shew on client. Hi Mark, Thanks! Below is the ssh -v message shew on client. OpenSSH_3.8p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0.9.7d 17 Mar 2004 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug1: Connecting to x.x.x.x [x.x.x.x] port 22. debug1: Connection established. debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type 1 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1 debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 debug1: match: OpenSSH_3.8.1p1 pat OpenSSH* debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0 debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8p1 debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent Connection closed by x.x.x.x From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 3:40:23 AM Subject: Re: z/OS SSHD Configuration Issue On 1/21/2010 at 02:58 AM, Anson Ye ye.an...@yahoo.com wrote: I have no idea how to fix this issue Please advise. Thanks! What does the client show if you use ssh -v when you try to connect? Mark Post -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Quick start video tutorial about MFNetDisk tape manager.
HI, The quality of the video was very poor, so I delete the old videos and I recreate much better quality videos. I am sure you will like it. Also it may teach some of you tapes in general. To watch the movies go to my site and select the *MFNetDisk tape manager*files. http://www.mfnetdisk.com/43973/Download Thanks, Shai On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Shai Hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote: HI, Quick start video tutorial about MFNetDisk tape manager. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azUWcd5d1CU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlEkyEzdGN8 I will upload the new code to my site in one day or so. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
