Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
If you have copies on a local device, you don't have to worry about problems with the IBM web site or your internet connection. On the other hand, your local copy may be out of date unless someone manually copies over the new version. My system is not allowed to connect to the internet so the choice is easy for me. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Deaver [mailto:snip] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online? So we just got the z/OS 1.8 Online Library collection on CD with our software distribution. My engineer wants to store all the PDF out on a documentation share we have, but I was telling him they should all be online at the IBM Book Server library and why keep another copy. He was thinking that certain of the documents were only available as license holders of certain product features and therefore would not be on the book server. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:50:58 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have copies on a local device, you don't have to worry about problems with the IBM web site or your internet connection. On the other hand, your local copy may be out of date unless someone manually copies over the new version. I keep them on our LAN. It is really easy to keep them up to date with Softcopy Librarian. It isn't very often that manuals are updated within a given release anyway (so I only check every few months). My system is not allowed to connect to the internet so the choice is easy for me. We can... and do have manuals on z/OS in one of our sysplexes. I just prefer library reader for win-doze over the mvs version. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
Mark Zelden wrote: We can... and do have manuals on z/OS in one of our sysplexes. I just prefer library reader for win-doze over the mvs version. Seriously? Do you mean the old Library Reader or do you mean the newer, but definitely not better, Softcopy Reader. We put our stuff on the mainframe and use web-based Library Server for z/OS to access via our Intranet. It provides the same interface IBM provides via the web as well as an Eclipse-style Information Center interface if one so chooses. The same books are also available under TSO/E for use with BookManager READ/MVS, which I use more than any other book reading interface! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
Hi Jeffrey, Do you mind to provide the CD order number because our LAN internet access is too slow due the Government scanning everything , so we also prefer to have all the manuals on a local server but IBM changes the ordering instructions on us all the time ? Anton Britz On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:21:09 -0600, Jeffrey Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we just got the z/OS 1.8 Online Library collection on CD with our software distribution. My engineer wants to store all the PDF out on a documentation share we have, but I was telling him they should all be online at the IBM Book Server library and why keep another copy. He was thinking that certain of the documents were only available as license holders of certain product features and therefore would not be on the book server. Anyone know which of us is right? Thanks. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-665-4231(v) 651-610-7670(p) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
Hi Jeffrey, Please could you provide the SKT number for that CD collection. We also need a copy of all those manuals on our LAN because the internet here is too slow coming out of the NSA filters.. Anton Britz On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:21:09 -0600, Jeffrey Deaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So we just got the z/OS 1.8 Online Library collection on CD with our software distribution. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:33:13 -0800, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: We can... and do have manuals on z/OS in one of our sysplexes. I just prefer library reader for win-doze over the mvs version. Seriously? Do you mean the old Library Reader or do you mean the newer, but definitely not better, Softcopy Reader. The old one of course! (which is why I wrote library reader although I didn't capitalize it). I do have the new one installed on my workstation because the old one doesn't support PDF bookshelves and the WebSphere stuff is only available as PDF now. We put our stuff on the mainframe and use web-based Library Server for z/OS to access via our Intranet. It provides the same interface IBM provides via the web as well as an Eclipse-style Information Center interface if one so chooses. The same books are also available under TSO/E for use with BookManager READ/MVS, which I use more than any other book reading interface! I've never looked at doing that. If it took extra cycles on z/OS then that would be one more thing to add to our costs so I guess I shouldn't look at doing it. At least not until it runs on a zAAP or zIIP. :-) I have enough software to configure and support on z/OS as it is! :-) :-) I guess my preference is the windows version because that is what I have used since the CD collections became available. Not many shops I've been at had it on MVS. Here, the sysplex that read/mvs is on gets poor TSO response time as it is and I assume searches would go to TSO period 2 or 3. I know the guys that grew up with that sysplex (I inherited it via consolidation) use it on MVS. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
So we just got the z/OS 1.8 Online Library collection on CD with our software distribution. My engineer wants to store all the PDF out on a documentation share we have, but I was telling him they should all be online at the IBM Book Server library and why keep another copy. He was thinking that certain of the documents were only available as license holders of certain product features and therefore would not be on the book server. Anyone know which of us is right? Thanks. Jeffrey Deaver, Engineer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-665-4231(v) 651-610-7670(p) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:21 -0600, Jeffrey Deaver wrote: He was thinking that certain of the documents were only available as license holders of certain product features and therefore would not be on the book server. At the Tampa SHARE, Gwen Dente mentioned that IBM had gotten rid of the LY pubs as of z/OS 1.7 -- I don't know if this only applied to the CS manuals. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 Book Collection online?
Jeffrey Deaver wrote: So we just got the z/OS 1.8 Online Library collection on CD with our software distribution. My engineer wants to store all the PDF out on a documentation share we have, but I was telling him they should all be online at the IBM Book Server library and why keep another copy. He was thinking that certain of the documents were only available as license holders of certain product features and therefore would not be on the book server. Anyone know which of us is right? http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/resource_link.html Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
