Fwd: The future of MFNetDisk
-- Forwarded message -- From: Shai Hess mfnetd...@mfnetdisk.com Date: Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:14 AM Subject: The future of MFNetDisk To: shai.h...@gmail.com ** HI, MFNetDisk have good success in MF market. The problem is that the people who used MFNetDisk are small companies who could not pay money for the product (poor customers) or people of big companies who enjoy using (playing) this product in home or office but could not offer it to their big companies because of all known reasons. So, after thinking a lot about the future of the product I decide to offer the product for sale from now on and to stop support the product but only for evaluation of the product for serious customers. So, here is my plan for MFNetDisk: I will let MFNetDisk users to use it until 2013 June 31 so you will have enough time to change from MFNetDisk to other products (good for IBM, EMC and more). After that time MFNetDisk will not be supported anymore for MFNetDisk users, and will not be allowed to be used as product in users site. Downloading the product will be disabled in few days but MFNetDisk site will continue to be active. I will offer MFNetDisk for sale to IBM or any other companies who like MFNetDisk to be product of their products line. MFNetDisk product will be for sale from now to unknown time in the future. Only companies who considering buying the product can ask for MFNetDisk product for evaluation and will receive activation key for some time to evaluate the product. I will consider let users continue to use MFNetDisk and have support for the product by me only if I will be paid monthly for my cost. MFNetDisk is not allowed to be distributed anymore except by me, Shai Hess. Thanks, God bless you. Shai Hess, MFNetDisk product. -- Thank. God bless you, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The future of MFNetDisk
I certainly hope you have plans to develop something else, something new! I cannot wait to see what you come up with if you do decide. Kind regards Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of shai hess Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Fwd: The future of MFNetDisk ** HI, MFNetDisk have good success in MF market. The problem is that the people who used MFNetDisk are small companies who could not pay money for the product (poor customers) or people of big companies who enjoy using (playing) this product in home or office but could not offer it to their big companies because of all known reasons. So, after thinking a lot about the future of the product I decide to offer the product for sale from now on and to stop support the product but only for evaluation of the product for serious customers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The future of MFNetDisk
Thank you for respect me much more than I am. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@sas.comwrote: I certainly hope you have plans to develop something else, something new! I cannot wait to see what you come up with if you do decide. Kind regards Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of shai hess Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 8:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Fwd: The future of MFNetDisk ** HI, MFNetDisk have good success in MF market. The problem is that the people who used MFNetDisk are small companies who could not pay money for the product (poor customers) or people of big companies who enjoy using (playing) this product in home or office but could not offer it to their big companies because of all known reasons. So, after thinking a lot about the future of the product I decide to offer the product for sale from now on and to stop support the product but only for evaluation of the product for serious customers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Thank. God bless you, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RedBook EPUBs - How can you read them?
When I download from Redbooks, using Windows 7, I get a xx.epub file stored. I process it with Calibre. You can read it with Calibre or, as I do, move it to my Kindle (Calibre will convert it to the proper format). Works great. Birger Heede Den 26-10-2012 02:05, Tom Longfellow skrev: I see where many publications are available for download in EPUB format. There were some implied promises about to being able to get these at some future date from itunes. I can even see on the RedBooks website how they have been testing using iOS (I am assuming Apple devices) What I do not see is how to get these EPUBs onto a computing platform (Apple or not) so that they can be read. - When I download from the EPUB link on the Redbooks webpage, I get a folder full of XML and other files. I am still searching for an app to read it. My end goal is to be able to read it on an iPod/iPad device, but at this point would settle for just being able to open it and read it. --- Adobe Digital Editions says it is an EPUB reader, but no joy so far with the IBM redbooks. Any suggestions?( I never thought I would get nostalgic for a simple PDF file) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: maintain, distribute multiple copies same-named ZFS files
snip (1) how does one maintain multiple copies of zfs files off of one master catalog, given that you can't catalog vsam files using symbolic values in the catalog entry ; /snip I use DFDSS logical copy from my SMP/E maintained datasets to the new sysres Sample control statements are pre-processed by a utility to perform variable substitution prior to job submission. COPY DS - (INCLUDE - (- SYS1.OMVS.** - )- ) - RENAMEUNC - ( - (SYS1.OMVS.ETC.FVOL4,SYS1.OMVS.ETC.TVOL4) - (SYS1.OMVS.ROOT.FVOL4,SYS1.OMVS.ROOT.TVOL4) - (SYS1.OMVS.SCSDROOT.FVOL4,SYS1.OMVS.SCSDROOT.TVOL4) - (SYS1.OMVS.VAR.FVOL4,SYS1.OMVS.VAR.TVOL4) - ) - LOGINDYNAM(FVOL4) RECATALOG(SYS1.PRD2Z1D.MCAT) - HTH, Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bonno, Tuco Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: maintain, distribute multiple copies same-named ZFS files operating environment here is all z/os 1.13 how am i suppsed to clone and DISTRIBUTE (with emphasis on *distribute*) zfs files? CURRENTLY, I have a situation where 6 lpars, 3 production and 3 test, all share the same master catalog. In that master catalog, the entry for OMVS.ROOT reads as follows, (i.a.,) : volser hfsv1 ;and there are 6 3390s out there, one for each lpar, each of which has a copy of OMVS.ROOT on it. Currently, each such omvs.root is an HFS file. Whenever any lpar is ipled, the value of hfsv1 is set bmo of an entry in an appropriate IEASYM-- in an appropriate PARMLIB, and each lpar runs with its own copy of the root, called OMVS.ROOT . whenever i have a NEW COPY of omvs.root that needs to be distributed, i (1) drain the 3 test lpars; (2) go to the pack in each test lpar whcih contains omvs.root and do a DELETE/NOSCRATCH for the omvs.root on that pack ; (3) from a 7th lpar, i copy the new version of omvs.root to the pack in each test lpar which is supposed to have a copy of omvs.root on it, using a DISP=(NEW,KEEP). Later on, those 3 test lpars are ipled as production lpars. in this methodology, the entry in the master catalog is never touched, and nothing in any of the 3 production lpars is ever impacted by whatever i may be doing in any test lpar. (This g.p. methodology is how i maintain ALL the o/s image dsn-s) (and, btw, i use this methodology to distribute a couple DOZEN omvs/unix-system-services dsn-s, not just omvs.root) the recent emphasis from ibm is, has been, to convert one's HFS files to ZFS. so, now, given that zfs files are really vsam files, (1) how does one maintain multiple copies of zfs files off of one master catalog, given that you can't catalog vsam files using symbolic values in the catalog entry ; (2) next, assuming that there is some method -- unknown to me at the present moment -- to maintain multiple copes of identically-named vsam files off of one catalog , how do i go about distributing new copies of zfs files, using my methodology that I described above? First of all, if I follow the above-described scenario, the first time i try to delete a zfs file (a vsam file, now) , isn't that going to also erase the catalog entry for it (and wreak some havoc for the remaining 5 lpars, which are also still using the catalog) ? Second of all, there is/are the VVDS entries, something I need not bother myself about in my current methodology (b/c in that, no vsam files are involved) -- how do i keep them sync-ed up? (3) i tried to consult several books about this , i.a., z/os distributed file service file system implementation , distributed file sevice zSeries file system Administration and volume 9, ABCs of system programming and z/FS reorganization tool , and i just can't get this to work , at least in the context of the methodology i currently use to distribute omvs/unix-system-services dsn-s. Maybe i need to totally change my methodology? EXACTLY how are other people doing this kind of thing? TIA /s/ tuco bonno; Graduate, College of Conflict Management; University of SouthEast Asia; I partied on the Ho Chi Minh Trail - tiến lên !! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access
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Re: maintain, distribute multiple copies same-named ZFS files
If you do a DELETE/NOSCRATCH on a volume, how can you then do a NEW/KEEP to the same volume? Did you mean you do a delete without updating the catalog? correction. I *did* mean to say that I do a delete WITHOUT updating the catalog. thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Fwd: The future of MFNetDisk
shai hess wrote: MFNetDisk have good success in MF market. Since 2007/2008 I have said once or two times: You are an achiever! It is not everyone who can do that [creating a freebie which eventually leaves a good mark...] So, after thinking a lot about the future of the product I decide to offer the product for sale from now on and to stop support the product but only for evaluation of the product for serious customers. At last, now you can get well deserved credits for your hard work. All of the very best for you and your product! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
Very true. What might be nice, and was rummaging around in my head, would be a z-series oriented community web site (supported by ) which would have at least two things. The first would be a CMS (Content Management System, perhaps Drupal?) or Wiki (MediaWiki) so that people could contribute information (to which they have an appropriate copyright). But it would likely need to be managed with approved contributors and peer reviewed. The other would be a source code repository. Now, we already have this at http://cbttape.org . Perhaps Sam would not be adverse to adding a Wiki for easy access to information. It could be used by people who need information. The site might even be able to host an archive of this, and other z-oriented, email forum. Preferable with a Google-like search ability. But I'm now getting into things that take a fair amount of time and effort. And, of course, everybody would want it to be cost-free. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone • john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. –The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On 10/29/2012 10:26 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. Do they not expire after 25 years? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On 10/29/2012 11:03 AM, McKown, John wrote: Very true. What might be nice, and was rummaging around in my head, would be a z-series oriented community web site (supported by ) which would have at least two things. The first would be a CMS (Content Management System, perhaps Drupal?) or Wiki (MediaWiki) so that people could contribute information (to which they have an appropriate copyright). But it would likely need to be managed with approved contributors and peer reviewed. The other would be a source code repository. Now, we already have this at http://cbttape.org . Perhaps Sam would not be adverse to adding a Wiki for easy access to information. It could be used by people who need information. The site might even be able to host an archive of this, and other z-oriented, email forum. Preferable with a Google-like search ability. But I'm now getting into things that take a fair amount of time and effort. And, of course, everybody would want it to be cost-free. I run a web server and would be willing to do so for free. And could also do a z-orientated email forum. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
Some kinds of copyrights can be renewed by the owner(s). Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane • Franklin, TN 37069-2526 • USA t: +1.617.614.4503 • e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com • w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost On 10/29/2012 10:26 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. Do they not expire after 25 years? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
A few years ago I asked a question similar to this, about having a site where people collected information in a structured way, expanding on, for example, answers to problems on this and other lists. It didn't go over well. One guy in particular, who will be dead soon, said his information isn't for free. (But he didn't mind dribbling it out in little bits to lists like this.) Oh well. Still, I'd definitely support any such effort. Regards Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Fairchild [bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: 29 October 2012 18:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost Some kinds of copyrights can be renewed by the owner(s). Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane • Franklin, TN 37069-2526 • USA t: +1.617.614.4503 • e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com • w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost On 10/29/2012 10:26 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. Do they not expire after 25 years? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On modern books, it's minimum 75 years, and extends 50 years past the life of the author. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_States Since this book is from 1991, it's well within copyright. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: Some kinds of copyrights can be renewed by the owner(s). Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane • Franklin, TN 37069-2526 • USA t: +1.617.614.4503 • e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com • w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost On 10/29/2012 10:26 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: I fell asleep reading mine, and at the same time spilt red wine on it. But still I wouldn't give/sell it. I only paid about $50 for it from a used book place, I forget where. It was about 6 years ago. It would be totally cool if he updated it with PC routines, for example. Lindy A possibility: Have someone scan the book and place it on the web. Then ask the mainframe community to have them update the book with new information and add information. As to who can do so is selected by the population as to have the best new chapter of the book. Just a thought... Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. Do they not expire after 25 years? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
I don't think another email forum for the z is needed. We have IBM-MAIN, IBMTCP-L, MVS-OE, CICS-L, ASSEMBLER-LIST, Linux-390 and likely even more. IANAL, but I wonder what the copyright status is of the messages which are sent on a public email forum. I just don't see how anybody could assert a copyright claim on them (thinking about Lindy's response about one person who considers his knowledge to be his property). So maintaining an independent archive is likely legal (if not, Google is in trouble). I also wonder how much editing that one could get away with. What I was thinking of was perhaps a raw archive (perhaps indexed or threaded) and, from that, make an FAQ wiki like site which took the information, organized it, but include hyperlinks back to the raw archive message(s) from which the information was cribbed. Might even have links to vendor documentation, if such is available. IBM very nicely has a good Web documentation site that I often reference in a reply so that other's can evaluate things for themselves. All that I've been able to find for CA are PDF documents, and you need to log into their support site to get access to them. So I doubt it would be legal to webify them so that you could give a hyperlink to a web page containing their information. Other vendors seem to be like CA. They don't seem to want their documentation to be easily accessed via the Web in an unfettered manner. Oh, wait, Dovetail Technologies man pages for their zero-cost software is easily gotten to via unfettered access and hyperlinks. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone • john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. –The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of scott Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost snip I run a web server and would be willing to do so for free. And could also do a z-orientated email forum. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On 29 October 2012 12:27, scott svet...@ameritech.net wrote: On 10/29/2012 10:26 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. Do they not expire after 25 years? No. For most things the clock doesn't even start ticking until the author dies. But there - I've already strayed way too far into legal issues that I am not competent to pronounce on. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
Yes, emails are (implied) copyrighted when you make them available for other computers to see (post on a web page or send an email, drafts or password protected files excluded), even without an explicit copyright notice. Reworking someone else's copyrighted work it becomes a jointly authored work if you include them as the author and should had their authorization (something like a wiki you acknowledge subsequent authors have the right to modify the document). You should include a reference to the original. Reworking someone else's work making it look like they were the sole author is one form of a crime (similar to libel). Copying (and or reworking) someone else's work looking like it is your sole work is another form of a crime (similar to theft). On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I don't think another email forum for the z is needed. We have IBM-MAIN, IBMTCP-L, MVS-OE, CICS-L, ASSEMBLER-LIST, Linux-390 and likely even more. IANAL, but I wonder what the copyright status is of the messages which are sent on a public email forum. I just don't see how anybody could assert a copyright claim on them (thinking about Lindy's response about one person who considers his knowledge to be his property). So maintaining an independent archive is likely legal (if not, Google is in trouble). I also wonder how much editing that one could get away with. What I was thinking of was perhaps a raw archive (perhaps indexed or threaded) and, from that, make an FAQ wiki like site which took the information, organized it, but include hyperlinks back to the raw archive message(s) from which the information was cribbed. Might even have links to vendor documentation, if such is available. IBM very nicely has a good Web documentation site that I often reference in a reply so that other's can evaluate things for themselves. All that I've been able to find for CA are PDF documents, and you need to log into their support site to get access to them. So I doubt it would be legal to webify them so that you could give a hyperlink to a web page containing their information. Other vendors seem to be like CA. They don't seem to want their documentation to be easily accessed via the Web in an unfettered manner. Oh, wait, Dovetail Technologies man pages for their zero-cost software is easily gotten to via unfettered access and hyperlinks. -- John McKown -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
This person didn't say it was his property. He said that he wouldn't give his knowledge away for free. In other words, he would rather take it to the coffin than participate in any sort of joint effort to collect information from (my words) the old timers. I would have zero problem with taking information from lists, rewording it, and putting it in a wiki. Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 October 2012 19:44 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost I just don't see how anybody could assert a copyright claim on them (thinking about Lindy's response about one person who considers his knowledge to be his property). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
On 10/29/2012 10:26 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: On 10/29/2012 8:23 AM, scott wrote: On 10/25/2012 07:35 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: SNIPPAGE Ummm. There are copyright laws, ya' know. Do they not expire after 25 years? SNIPPAGE Because of the Mickey Mouse [Disney] laws (yes, this is what they are referred to), copyright is not for a set number of years to be renewed by the owner (US IP law up to about 1964 as I recall), but runs until some number of years after the death of the original creator. This is because the owner of the Mickey Mouse copyrights (along with a few others) pushed the US Congress for a change to the copyright laws. They have been modified at least twice since 1964, if my memory serves me correctly. At one point, the extension past demise was based on whether or not the creator was well known (Ok, get a bunch of attorneys together and get them to define that term). So it was something like 10 years for a non-well known author, and 25 years for a well known author. The recent change is causing some to question if what the US Congress did is actually a violation of the US Constitution in this area, as things were intended to go into the public domain after a/an [reasonable] amount of time. That is, a copyright was not to be inperpetuity. Regards, Steve Thompson - Disclaimers: Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those of posters employer, IBM. Nothing in this post is to be taken as legal advice, but only as a common man's understanding of what the IP laws may contain at this point in time. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
sort jcl
Hello. I have a input file like the below 1234 12345 123456 12 12345678 1234567890 1243455 Here in the above file if the length of the data is more than 9 i need to drop and put the same in a dropped file. so in the above file the last 2 will be dropped and kept in a new file. Pls let me know how to acheive the same? Regards Ron T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Getting IEE707I message with Start command
I have a process that has been working great until today. All of a sudden I am getting a IEE707I message when attempting to issue a MVS START command from my program. The funny thing is, my APF authorized program fails for some starts and not others and I use an identical assembler command to issue the different starts. Here is the message I am getting: IEE707I SNOT EXECUTED Here is what is says in the messages manual: IEE707Icm yyy NOT EXECUTED Explanation: Before processing command cm yyy, MVS presented the command to all subsystems that monitor commands. Based on the response returned, MVS did not process the command for one of the following reasons: One or more subsystems intentionally failed the command with a return code of 8. One or more subsystems issued a return code that was not valid. The command installation exit issued a return code of 8. System programmer response: Determine why the subsystem or the installation exit routine rejected the command. The return code could be a valid, non-error return code. My questions are: How do I determine what subsystems or installation exit routine rejected the command? I resist IPLing because it might fix the problem and then I will never know what went wrong. What changes could cause this problem? Note: To rule out any recent changes to my application causing the problem, I attempted to execute a version that was two releases old and got the same result. The only difference I can see between the start commands that are failing and the ones that are working is that the ones that fail have binary data in the command (enclosed in apostropies). The ones that work have lower case characters (enclosed in apostrophies). Here are the commands: S TESTAS,A=' ?Q ',V=V8M2 == Fails on an IEE707I message S TESTSY,V=V8M2,PM='/S0W1/var/log/%Y/%m/%d/errors' === works I do not know where to turn... Any suggestions or ideas are welcome. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
Corporations never die. They get bought out or go bankrupt and assests (including book, movie, and song copyrights) are sold for a figurative song. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote: deleted At one point, the extension past demise was based on whether or not the creator was well known (Ok, get a bunch of attorneys together and get them to define that term). So it was something like 10 years for a non-well known author, and 25 years for a well known author. The recent change is causing some to question if what the US Congress did is actually a violation of the US Constitution in this area, as things were intended to go into the public domain after a/an [reasonable] amount of time. That is, a copyright was not to be inperpetuity. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Getting IEE707I message with Start command
I have a process that has been working great until today. All of a sudden I am getting a IEE707I message when attempting to issue a MVS START command from my program. The funny thing is, my APF authorized program fails for some starts and not others and I use an identical assembler command to issue the different starts. Here is the message I am getting: IEE707I SNOT EXECUTED Here is what is says in the messages manual: IEE707Icm yyy NOT EXECUTED Explanation: Before processing command cm yyy, MVS presented the command to all subsystems that monitor commands. Based on the response returned, MVS did not process the command for one of the following reasons: One or more subsystems intentionally failed the command with a return code of 8. One or more subsystems issued a return code that was not valid. The command installation exit issued a return code of 8. System programmer response: Determine why the subsystem or the installation exit routine rejected the command. The return code could be a valid, non-error return code. My questions are: How do I determine what subsystems or installation exit routine rejected the command? I resist IPLing because it might fix the problem and then I will never know what went wrong. What changes could cause this problem? Note: To rule out any recent changes to my application causing the problem, I attempted to execute a version that was two releases old and got the same result. The only difference I can see between the start commands that are failing and the ones that are working is that the ones that fail have binary data in the command (enclosed in apostropies). The ones that work have lower case characters (enclosed in apostrophies). Here are the commands: S TESTAS,A=' ?Q ',V=V8M2 == Fails on an IEE707I message S TESTSY,V=V8M2,PM='/S0W1/var/log/%Y/%m/%d/errors' === works I do not know where to turn... Any suggestions or ideas are welcome. You might start with a CTRACE COMP=SYSOPS for COMMAND events (See MVS Diagnosis: Tools and Service Aids). This might help determine whether the command installation exit was involved, or if a subsystem was involved. If it was a subsystem, then you may need to open a PMR and ask Level 2 for the SSI component to assist you in setting a SLIP IF in the subsystem broadcast router to trace subsystem function calls for the command function code, or to dump when a function routine for the command function code returns a fail code. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HCD Graphical Configuration Report PC exploitation
do a google on 'yed' On 28/10/2012, Roberto Ibarra Magdaleno roberto.ibar...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry that should say HCM (Hardware Configuration Manager) not HMC… On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Roberto Ibarra roberto.ibar...@gmail.comwrote: Hello everybody, When you print an HCD Graphical Configuration Report to a GML file, does anybody knows if there’s a free PC software (editor, image editor) to exploit it? I know HMC does just that but we don’t have it. TIA Roberto. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
In 508eae71.3020...@ameritech.net, on 10/29/2012 at 12:27 PM, scott svet...@ameritech.net said: Do they not expire after 25 years? Blame Disney. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
In 45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf2dbc4...@sdkmbx03.emea.sas.com, on 10/29/2012 at 06:18 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@sas.com said: This person didn't say it was his property. He said that he wouldn't give his knowledge away for free. That's his right. You don't have an obligation to follow his example if you don't want to. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2http://patriot.net/~shmuel We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: sort jcl
Is your LRECL fixed or variable? :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of Ron Thomas :: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:25 AM :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :: Subject: sort jcl :: :: Hello. :: :: I have a input file like the below :: :: 1234 :: 12345 :: 123456 :: 12 :: 12345678 :: 1234567890 :: 1243455 :: :: Here in the above file if the length of the data is more than 9 i need :: to drop and put the same in a dropped file. so in the above file the :: last 2 will be dropped and kept in a new file. Pls let me know how to :: acheive the same? :: :: Regards :: Ron T :: :: -- :: For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, :: send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Getting IEE707I message with Start command
Can you show us the JCL for each started task? Are there any other messages in the log between the START command and the IEE707I :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of Donald Likens :: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 11:56 AM :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :: Subject: Getting IEE707I message with Start command :: :: I have a process that has been working great until today. All of a :: sudden I am getting a IEE707I message when attempting to issue a MVS :: START command from my program. The funny thing is, my APF authorized :: program fails for some starts and not others and I use an identical :: assembler command to issue the different starts. Here is the message I :: am getting: :: :: IEE707I SNOT EXECUTED :: snip :: The only difference I can see between the start commands that are :: failing and the ones that are working is that the ones that fail have :: binary data in the command (enclosed in apostropies). The ones that work :: have lower case characters (enclosed in apostrophies). :: :: Here are the commands: :: :: S TESTAS,A=' ?Q ',V=V8M2 == Fails on an IEE707I message :: :: S TESTSY,V=V8M2,PM='/S0W1/var/log/%Y/%m/%d/errors' === works :: :: I do not know where to turn... Any suggestions or ideas are welcome. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
