Re: Can a SLIP be set based on a message text?

2018-06-15 Thread Jousma, David
Sorry, I should have read closer.  You would need automation to trap on message 
ID, parse the text, and take whatever actions you wanted.

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https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieag100/slipxmp.htm

You can check out the MSGID parameter, but it appears to only work in response 
to a command, vs trap on a random message.   Probably better off using your 
automation package to do that, and have it do a console dump.

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Hello, I am having some difficulty in troubleshooting an application problem 
dealing with a started task, and want to create a dump of the application job 
and the STC at a particular point of time.

Can someone tell me if I can set a SLIP to create an SVCD when my job 
encounters a message that is produced in the JES joblog? For the sake of the 
discussion here:
Applic. job = MYTESJOB
STC used = DATABAS2
Message = "USERM001: JOB ENCOUNTERED UNMANAGED ERROR - ABENDING"

If I can do this, I want to dump several areas for the job and the STC (I know 
how to code that part with the SDATA values. I suspect it is something like 
this:
SL
SET,ENABLE,J=MYTESJOB,JL=(MYTESJOB,DATABAS2),ACTION=SVCD,MATCHLIM=1,SDATA=(),???

I just need to know what to replace ??? with for tripping this as soon as the 
message is produced.

Thanks for your help!
Billy

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Re: Can a SLIP be set based on a message text?

2018-06-15 Thread Jousma, David
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieag100/slipxmp.htm

You can check out the MSGID parameter, but it appears to only work in response 
to a command, vs trap on a random message.   Probably better off using your 
automation package to do that, and have it do a console dump.

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Hello, I am having some difficulty in troubleshooting an application problem 
dealing with a started task, and want to create a dump of the application job 
and the STC at a particular point of time.

Can someone tell me if I can set a SLIP to create an SVCD when my job 
encounters a message that is produced in the JES joblog? For the sake of the 
discussion here:
Applic. job = MYTESJOB
STC used = DATABAS2
Message = "USERM001: JOB ENCOUNTERED UNMANAGED ERROR - ABENDING"

If I can do this, I want to dump several areas for the job and the STC (I know 
how to code that part with the SDATA values. I suspect it is something like 
this:
SL
SET,ENABLE,J=MYTESJOB,JL=(MYTESJOB,DATABAS2),ACTION=SVCD,MATCHLIM=1,SDATA=(),???

I just need to know what to replace ??? with for tripping this as soon as the 
message is produced.

Thanks for your help!
Billy

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Can a SLIP be set based on a message text?

2018-06-15 Thread Bill Ashton
Hello, I am having some difficulty in troubleshooting an application
problem dealing with a started task, and want to create a dump of the
application job and the STC at a particular point of time.

Can someone tell me if I can set a SLIP to create an SVCD when my job
encounters a message that is produced in the JES joblog? For the sake of
the discussion here:
Applic. job = MYTESJOB
STC used = DATABAS2
Message = "USERM001: JOB ENCOUNTERED UNMANAGED ERROR - ABENDING"

If I can do this, I want to dump several areas for the job and the STC (I
know how to code that part with the SDATA values. I suspect it is something
like this:
SL
SET,ENABLE,J=MYTESJOB,JL=(MYTESJOB,DATABAS2),ACTION=SVCD,MATCHLIM=1,SDATA=(),???

I just need to know what to replace ??? with for tripping this as soon as
the message is produced.

Thanks for your help!
Billy

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Re: Would SHARE kindly kick IBM in the ass for what the've done with their web content?

2018-06-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
IMHO, IBM should be very cautious about using noindex and robots.txt; there are 
legitimate reasons to search for old manuals.


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This may have been said before, but if IBM wanted to remove stuff, the
appropriate way is to:

1) use robots.txt or equivalent to exclude the to-be-deleted documents from
search indexes
2) wait some period of time for crawlers to re-index
3) Remove the pages

Google in particular I believe has some tools that you can use to
pro-actively remove pages from their indexes.   If they aren't bring these
pages back, then this is what they should do to clean up the mess that they
have made.

Dealing with search indexes is something that professional web site
publishers should know how to do.

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On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Ed Jaffe 
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> On 6/14/2018 9:27 AM, Mike Schwab wrote:
>
>> Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
>> command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
>> the newest manual.  Sometimes it is best to get the newer manual then
>> check the document changes so you aren't referencing a feature only in
>> the newest release.
>>
>
> No argument there, but saying that provides no rationale or justification
> for removal of the z/OS 2.1 KC content which is what this thread is about...
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Re: z/OS V2R1 content in KC (and Google)

2018-06-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
Could IBM have put a noindex in there?


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It's almost as if Google hasn't crawled the 2.2 and 2.3 Knowledge Center 
content, because the material is certainly there but it doesn't appear in the 
results - at least not in the first pages presented before, for example, I 
start getting license plate results when I'm looking for a message id.

Not letting IBM off the hook on this one, clearly nobody had any perspective on 
the user experience, but I'm also pondering why we don't get results for the 
other current content.   Is this the kind of thing where somebody could prompt 
Google to update their index?

I tried adding the release notation to searches and no dice, Google stubbornly 
presents 2.1 results when I add 2.2 or 2.3 to the search argument.

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Sue,thank you for correcting the inexcusable error so quickly.

It was, however, unnecessary to post what may look as reasonable justification 
to you. To me "improve customer experience" is always announcing a step back in 
service, usability, availability. It's the current management buzzword to 
justify whatever nonsense they impose on us.

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Re: Would SHARE kindly kick IBM in the ass for what the've done with their web content?

2018-06-15 Thread Seymour J Metz
Isn't there provision for anchors in the current version of PDF?


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On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:27:47 -0500, Mike Schwab  wrote:

>Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
>command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
>the newest manual.  Sometimes it is best to get the newer manual then
>check the document changes so you aren't referencing a feature only in
>the newest release.

OK, here's a constructive proposal: there should be a single HTML-based web 
tree that contains the doc for the MOST CURRENT VERSION of z/OS. Each page 
would then have a menu dropdown to allow you to select an earlier release. The 
URLs for the current pages would be kept STABLE, so that links from other pages 
won't go dead when future releases come out.

The web designers would use robots.txt or whatever to keep crawlers out of the 
back level doc, so that only the most current doc is indexed. The when you 
search for "IDCAMS REPRO", you get the hits to the LATEST doc, but can find the 
back-level stuff easily enough.

I agree that the PDFs are valuable (I use them all the time), but it's ALSO 
really handy to be able to embed a link to the EXACT SPOT n the documentation 
that I am referring to, and that requires a URL to a page, not to a PTF.

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Re: OSA/SF HCD question

2018-06-15 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2018-06-15 o 15:33, Mike Wawiorko pisze:

OSA/SF doesn't work with the newer OSA and mainframe hardware. Can't remember 
if it stopped with OSA-E4 or OSA-E5.

These functions moved from OSA/SF to the hardware console instead.

Around the same time the z/OS D TCPIP,,OSAINFO command was introduced to 
replace (most of) the OSA/SF display functions.


It was OSA-Express4s. The last OSA which works with OSA/SF and the first 
OSA which works with HMC substitute for OSA/SF.



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KC - once again

2018-06-15 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek)
Is IBM trying to reduce the usefulness of the KC?

I just searched for the z14 HMC doc with Google and the top link resulted in 
this message. Seems the content in the KC is being reduced. Is IBM trying to 
reduce their DASD footprint. Is AWS charging too much for it :)

Documentation for z14, HMC V2.14.0, and SE V2.14.0 is no longer available in 
the IBM Knowledge Center.

You can find information on the console help system, or on Resource Link.

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Re: OSA/SF HCD question

2018-06-15 Thread Mike Wawiorko
OSA/SF doesn't work with the newer OSA and mainframe hardware. Can't remember 
if it stopped with OSA-E4 or OSA-E5.

These functions moved from OSA/SF to the hardware console instead.

Around the same time the z/OS D TCPIP,,OSAINFO command was introduced to 
replace (most of) the OSA/SF display functions.

Mike Wawiorko 

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W dniu 2018-06-15 o 11:05, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh pisze:
> Hello All,
>
> In a 2 port per CHPID card (4 ports in a card), to use OSA/SF, is 1 OSAD unit 
> required per port (for a total of 4), or is 1 OSAD unit enough per CHPID/PCH 
> (for a total of 2).

You need 1 OSAD per CHPID, in other words 1 OSAD per two ports.

Caution: you wrote about 2 CHPID per card. It is NOT true for many years, that 
means OSA-Express6s, 5s and 4s have 1 CHPID per card.
The last card with two CHPIDs per card was OSA-Express3, the long one, for 
older I/O Cage or I/O Drawer. It was standard feature of z196, newer machines 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: OSA/SF HCD question

2018-06-15 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Thanks Radoslaw, that's all I needed to know (to fill this gap in my 
understanding of OSD setup).

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W dniu 2018-06-15 o 11:05, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh pisze:
> Hello All,
>
> In a 2 port per CHPID card (4 ports in a card), to use OSA/SF, is 1 OSAD unit 
> required per port (for a total of 4), or is 1 OSAD unit enough per CHPID/PCH 
> (for a total of 2).

You need 1 OSAD per CHPID, in other words 1 OSAD per two ports.

Caution: you wrote about 2 CHPID per card. It is NOT true for many years, that 
means OSA-Express6s, 5s and 4s have 1 CHPID per card.
The last card with two CHPIDs per card was OSA-Express3, the long one, for 
older I/O Cage or I/O Drawer. It was standard feature of z196, newer machines 
could use it as Carry Forward only.

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Re: Would SHARE kindly kick IBM in the ass for what the've done with their web content?

2018-06-15 Thread Jerry Callen
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:27:47 -0500, Mike Schwab  wrote:

>Even if you have a z/OS 2.1 manual, some PTFs do add features or
>command or document changes to older versions, and they only update
>the newest manual.  Sometimes it is best to get the newer manual then
>check the document changes so you aren't referencing a feature only in
>the newest release.

OK, here's a constructive proposal: there should be a single HTML-based web 
tree that contains the doc for the MOST CURRENT VERSION of z/OS. Each page 
would then have a menu dropdown to allow you to select an earlier release. The 
URLs for the current pages would be kept STABLE, so that links from other pages 
won't go dead when future releases come out.

The web designers would use robots.txt or whatever to keep crawlers out of the 
back level doc, so that only the most current doc is indexed. The when you 
search for "IDCAMS REPRO", you get the hits to the LATEST doc, but can find the 
back-level stuff easily enough.

I agree that the PDFs are valuable (I use them all the time), but it's ALSO 
really handy to be able to embed a link to the EXACT SPOT n the documentation 
that I am referring to, and that requires a URL to a page, not to a PTF.

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Re: z/OS V2R1 content in KC (and Google)

2018-06-15 Thread D Gaebler
There is a technology, which is very old, named URL rewrite.

It basically allows to receive a http request for:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa700/GETMAIN_Execute_form.htm

and process it as:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieaa700/GETMAIN_Execute_form.htm

In the web server configuration you could use variables for the rewrite.

One could ask, why IBM does not use this technology? Its probably OLD IT style?!

Furthermore, for future IBM could replace fixed version numbers in the URL as 
something fixed and let google index an URL like this:
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_recent/com.ibm.zos.recent.ieaa700/GETMAIN_Execute_form.htm

And use URL rewrite to replace the recent with the appropriate values, so lets 
say for the next couple of releases - until KC is "improved" again and new link 
structures are used - the URLs remain unchanged.

?!
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Re: OSA/SF HCD question

2018-06-15 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2018-06-15 o 11:05, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh pisze:

Hello All,

In a 2 port per CHPID card (4 ports in a card), to use OSA/SF, is 1 OSAD unit 
required per port (for a total of 4), or is 1 OSAD unit enough per CHPID/PCH 
(for a total of 2).


You need 1 OSAD per CHPID, in other words 1 OSAD per two ports.

Caution: you wrote about 2 CHPID per card. It is NOT true for many 
years, that means OSA-Express6s, 5s and 4s have 1 CHPID per card.
The last card with two CHPIDs per card was OSA-Express3, the long one, 
for older I/O Cage or I/O Drawer. It was standard feature of z196, newer 
machines could use it as Carry Forward only.


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Re: z/OS V2R1 content in KC (and Google)

2018-06-15 Thread Ambros, Thomas
It's almost as if Google hasn't crawled the 2.2 and 2.3 Knowledge Center 
content, because the material is certainly there but it doesn't appear in the 
results - at least not in the first pages presented before, for example, I 
start getting license plate results when I'm looking for a message id.  

Not letting IBM off the hook on this one, clearly nobody had any perspective on 
the user experience, but I'm also pondering why we don't get results for the 
other current content.   Is this the kind of thing where somebody could prompt 
Google to update their index?

I tried adding the release notation to searches and no dice, Google stubbornly 
presents 2.1 results when I add 2.2 or 2.3 to the search argument. 

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OSA/SF HCD question

2018-06-15 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hello All,

In a 2 port per CHPID card (4 ports in a card), to use OSA/SF, is 1 OSAD unit 
required per port (for a total of 4), or is 1 OSAD unit enough per CHPID/PCH 
(for a total of 2).

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AW: z/OS V2R1 content in KC (and Google)

2018-06-15 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Sue,thank you for correcting the inexcusable error so quickly.

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