Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Ahriel Darmansyah]

Bukannya issuenya semua aktivitas di dunia maya itu dipantau yah?? Cmiiw
On Nov 17, 2015 15:44, "Arif Budiman"  wrote:

> Nah ini
> Kalau chat di dalam game online hp kena pantau nggak ya? kan banyak banget
> tuh game yang ada fitur chat nya.
> misalnya ada perintah A serang target no 1 pada jam 10 pagi pakai
> nagagimana taunya itu chat game biasa atau kode perintah buat teror.
> On Nov 17, 2015 15:09, "Hilmy Irfan"  wrote:
>
>> ya kalo mau lebih murah, chatnya di CoC, bikin clan sendiri :D
>>
>>
>> Hilmy
>> /* saya suka Gonta Ganti Hape  */
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:
>>
>>> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
>>> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk


 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:

> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
> wrote:
>
> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
> Sekutu kalang kabut.
> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi" 
> wrote:
>
>> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya
>> kudu ori.
>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>>
>>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
>>> before 😷😷😷
>>>
>>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
>>> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss
 And Plan Attacks

 [image: psn arabic]

 Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
 
  which
 killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities 
 are
 discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
 most
 popular gaming console in the world, Sony
  ’s PlayStation 4.

 The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed
 Saturday night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number 
 of
 raids in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at 
 least
 one PlayStation 4 console.

 Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
 
 that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected 
 due to
 the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
 more
 difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.

 When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns
 that they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like
 Microsoft  MSFT -1.92%
 ’s Kinect and
 PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if 
 say,
 the government wanted a window into your living room.

 While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral
 based communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
 to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
 system
 may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted 
 phone
 calls, texts and email.
 Recommended by Forbes

 While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
 PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
 through
 the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting 
 to
 even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
 Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
 themselves
 
 in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
 meet-ups.

 [image: world of warcraft2]

 With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
 could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
 
 for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
 simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
 Internet communicat

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Arif Budiman]

Nah ini
Kalau chat di dalam game online hp kena pantau nggak ya? kan banyak banget
tuh game yang ada fitur chat nya.
misalnya ada perintah A serang target no 1 pada jam 10 pagi pakai
nagagimana taunya itu chat game biasa atau kode perintah buat teror.
On Nov 17, 2015 15:09, "Hilmy Irfan"  wrote:

> ya kalo mau lebih murah, chatnya di CoC, bikin clan sendiri :D
>
>
> Hilmy
> /* saya suka Gonta Ganti Hape  */
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:
>
>> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
>> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
 wrote:

 ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
 Sekutu kalang kabut.
 On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:

> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya
> kudu ori.
> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>
>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
>> before 😷😷😷
>>
>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
>> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
>>> Plan Attacks
>>>
>>> [image: psn arabic]
>>>
>>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>>> 
>>>  which
>>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities 
>>> are
>>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
>>> most
>>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>>>
>>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed
>>> Saturday night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number 
>>> of
>>> raids in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at 
>>> least
>>> one PlayStation 4 console.
>>>
>>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>>> 
>>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected 
>>> due to
>>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
>>> more
>>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>>
>>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns
>>> that they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like
>>> Microsoft  MSFT -1.92%
>>> ’s Kinect and
>>> PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say,
>>> the government wanted a window into your living room.
>>>
>>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
>>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
>>> system
>>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
>>> calls, texts and email.
>>> Recommended by Forbes
>>>
>>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
>>> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
>>> through
>>> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting 
>>> to
>>> even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
>>> Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
>>> themselves
>>> 
>>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>>> meet-ups.
>>>
>>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>>
>>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
>>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>>> 
>>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit 
>>> of
>>>  criminals in organized chats, l

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[isnianto]

ganti namanya karena ISIS.

ya bukan?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2015, at 15:40, Dante Maestro  wrote:
> 
> Itu sih ga nyambung, Om, itu ISIS aplikasi mobile wallet punya AT&T, T-Mobile 
> dan Verizon, sekarang udah ganti nama jadi Softcard 😂
> 
> 
>> On 17 November 2015 at 15:28, isnianto  wrote:
>> belum lama berselang, kalo pake android verizon pasti ada begini..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 15:06, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya, 
>>> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>>> 
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda  wrote:
 ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
 
 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan 
>> Sekutu kalang kabut.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
>>> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya 
>>> kudu ori.
 On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
 chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that 
 before 😷😷😷
 
 Sent from Hisense Pureshot
 
> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" 
>  wrote:
> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And 
> Plan Attacks
> 
> 
> 
> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris which  killed at 
> least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are 
> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
> most popular gaming console in the world, Sony ’s PlayStation 4.
> 
> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday 
> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of 
> raids in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at 
> least one PlayStation 4 console.
> 
> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright that 
> the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due 
> to the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is 
> even more difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
> 
> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns 
> that they would be too light on privacy, with peripherals like 
> Microsoft MSFT -1.92%’s Kinect and PlayStation’s Camera possibly 
> having the ability to spy on users if say, the government wanted a 
> window into your living room.
> 
> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based 
> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel to 
> effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
> system may offer a more secure means of communication than even 
> encrypted phone calls, texts and email.
> 
> Recommended by Forbes
> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed 
> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
> through the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and 
> voice-chatting to even communicating through a specific game. 
> Documents leaked by Edward Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and 
> CIA actually embedded themselves in games like World of Warcraft to 
> infiltrate virtual terrorist meet-ups.
> 
> 
> 
> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication 
> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult for investigators 
> to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a simple 
> cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of 
> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did 
> not grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the 
> government agency did build its own rigs to record their 
> communications in pursuit of  criminals in organized chats, like a 
> pedophile trying to lure kids via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come 
> equipped with such capabilities, as nearly anything you do on your 
> unit can be recorded if you want, in this age of YouTube and 
> livestreaming.
> 
> See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social 
> Media
> 
> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together 
> and chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening 
> because of the diff

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Dante Maestro]

Itu sih ga nyambung, Om, itu ISIS aplikasi mobile wallet punya AT&T,
T-Mobile dan Verizon, sekarang udah ganti nama jadi Softcard 😂


On 17 November 2015 at 15:28, isnianto  wrote:

> belum lama berselang, kalo pake android verizon pasti ada begini..
>
> [image: image1.PNG]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 15:06, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:
>
> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda  wrote:
>
>> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
>>> Sekutu kalang kabut.
>>> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
>>>
 Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya
 kudu ori.
 On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:

> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
> before 😷😷😷
>
> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
>> Plan Attacks
>>
>> [image: psn arabic]
>>
>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>> 
>>  which
>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities 
>> are
>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
>> most
>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>>
>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
>> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
>> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
>> PlayStation 4 console.
>>
>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>> 
>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due 
>> to
>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
>> more
>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>
>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns
>> that they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like
>> Microsoft  MSFT -1.92%
>> ’s Kinect and
>> PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say,
>> the government wanted a window into your living room.
>>
>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
>> system
>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
>> calls, texts and email.
>> Recommended by Forbes
>>
>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
>> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
>> through
>> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to
>> even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
>> Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
>> themselves
>> 
>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>> meet-ups.
>>
>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>
>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>> 
>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit 
>> of
>>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, 
>> as
>> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
>> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>
>> *See also: Attacks 

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[isnianto]

belum lama berselang, kalo pake android verizon pasti ada begini..



Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2015, at 15:06, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:
> 
> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya, 
> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda  wrote:
>> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>>> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara  
 wrote:
 
 ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan Sekutu 
 kalang kabut.
 
> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu 
> ori.
>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that 
>> before 😷😷😷
>> 
>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And 
>>> Plan Attacks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris which killed at 
>>> least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are 
>>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
>>> most popular gaming console in the world, Sony ’s PlayStation 4.
>>> 
>>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday 
>>> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids 
>>> in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one 
>>> PlayStation 4 console.
>>> 
>>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright that the 
>>> PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to the 
>>> fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more 
>>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>> 
>>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that 
>>> they would be too light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft 
>>> MSFT -1.92%’s Kinect and PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the 
>>> ability to spy on users if say, the government wanted a window into 
>>> your living room.
>>> 
>>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based 
>>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel to 
>>> effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
>>> system may offer a more secure means of communication than even 
>>> encrypted phone calls, texts and email.
>>> 
>>> Recommended by Forbes
>>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4 
>>> to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through 
>>> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting 
>>> to even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by 
>>> Edward Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded 
>>> themselves in games like World of Warcraft to infiltrate virtual 
>>> terrorist meet-ups.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication 
>>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult  for investigators to 
>>> monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a simple cellphone. In 
>>> 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of Internet 
>>> communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not grant 
>>> the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government 
>>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit 
>>> of  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids 
>>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such 
>>> capabilities, as nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if 
>>> you want, in this age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>> 
>>> See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
>>> 
>>> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together 
>>> and chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening 
>>> because of the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping 
>>> on those forms of communication. It remains unclear just how much 
>>> access the government has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in 
>>> the past few years, but whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its 
>>> ability to track more traditional forms of communication, such as 
>>> cellphones and computers.
>>> 
>>> By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of 
>>> them active, making this no small pool 

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Yudi Eko]

Wah kalo dibahas seru juga

Tp bkal panjang ni trit

Izin nyimak aja ah..
On Nov 17, 2015 3:09 PM, "Hilmy Irfan"  wrote:

> ya kalo mau lebih murah, chatnya di CoC, bikin clan sendiri :D
>
>
> Hilmy
> /* saya suka Gonta Ganti Hape  */
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:
>
>> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
>> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>>>
 Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
 wrote:

 ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
 Sekutu kalang kabut.
 On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:

> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya
> kudu ori.
> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>
>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
>> before 😷😷😷
>>
>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
>> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
>>> Plan Attacks
>>>
>>> [image: psn arabic]
>>>
>>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>>> 
>>>  which
>>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities 
>>> are
>>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
>>> most
>>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>>>
>>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed
>>> Saturday night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number 
>>> of
>>> raids in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at 
>>> least
>>> one PlayStation 4 console.
>>>
>>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>>> 
>>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected 
>>> due to
>>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
>>> more
>>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>>
>>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns
>>> that they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like
>>> Microsoft  MSFT -1.92%
>>> ’s Kinect and
>>> PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say,
>>> the government wanted a window into your living room.
>>>
>>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
>>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
>>> system
>>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
>>> calls, texts and email.
>>> Recommended by Forbes
>>>
>>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
>>> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
>>> through
>>> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting 
>>> to
>>> even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
>>> Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
>>> themselves
>>> 
>>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>>> meet-ups.
>>>
>>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>>
>>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
>>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>>> 
>>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit 
>>> of
>>>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
>>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such 
>>> capabilities, as
>>> nearly anything you do on your unit can be 

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Hilmy Irfan]

ya kalo mau lebih murah, chatnya di CoC, bikin clan sendiri :D


Hilmy
/* saya suka Gonta Ganti Hape  */

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Iwan Ridwan  wrote:

> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda  wrote:
>
>> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
>>> Sekutu kalang kabut.
>>> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
>>>
 Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya
 kudu ori.
 On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:

> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
> before 😷😷😷
>
> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
>> Plan Attacks
>>
>> [image: psn arabic]
>>
>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>> 
>>  which
>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities 
>> are
>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
>> most
>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>>
>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
>> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
>> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
>> PlayStation 4 console.
>>
>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>> 
>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due 
>> to
>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
>> more
>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>
>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns
>> that they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like
>> Microsoft  MSFT -1.92%
>> ’s Kinect and
>> PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say,
>> the government wanted a window into your living room.
>>
>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
>> system
>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
>> calls, texts and email.
>> Recommended by Forbes
>>
>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
>> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
>> through
>> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to
>> even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
>> Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
>> themselves
>> 
>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>> meet-ups.
>>
>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>
>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>> 
>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit 
>> of
>>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, 
>> as
>> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
>> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>
>> *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social
>> Media
>> 

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Iwan Ridwan]

wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
ujung2nya SARA dan Politik

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda  wrote:

> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
>> Sekutu kalang kabut.
>> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
>>
>>> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu
>>> ori.
>>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>>>
 chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
 before 😷😷😷

 Sent from Hisense Pureshot
 On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
 alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
> Plan Attacks
>
> [image: psn arabic]
>
> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
> 
>  which
> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are
> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most
> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>
> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
> PlayStation 4 console.
>
> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
> 
> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due 
> to
> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
> more
> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>
> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that
> they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft
>  MSFT -1.92%
> ’s Kinect and
> PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say,
> the government wanted a window into your living room.
>
> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
> system
> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
> calls, texts and email.
> Recommended by Forbes
>
> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through
> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to
> even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
> Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
> themselves
> 
> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
> meet-ups.
>
> [image: world of warcraft2]
>
> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
> 
> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of
>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, 
> as
> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>
> *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social
> Media
> *
>
> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together
> and chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening
> because of the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on
> those forms of communication. It remains unclear just how

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Mickey Vanda]

ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk


On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM,  wrote:

> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara 
> wrote:
>
> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan Sekutu
> kalang kabut.
> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
>
>> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu
>> ori.
>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>>
>>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
>>> before 😷😷😷
>>>
>>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
>>> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
 Plan Attacks

 [image: psn arabic]

 Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
 
  which
 killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are
 discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most
 popular gaming console in the world, Sony
  ’s PlayStation 4.

 The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
 night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
 nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
 PlayStation 4 console.

 Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
 
 that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to
 the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more
 difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.

 When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that
 they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft
  MSFT -1.92%
 ’s Kinect and PlayStation’s
 Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say, the government
 wanted a window into your living room.

 While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
 communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
 to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system
 may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
 calls, texts and email.
 Recommended by Forbes

 While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4
 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the
 PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even
 communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden
 in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves
 
 in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
 meet-ups.

 [image: world of warcraft2]

 With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
 could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
 
 for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
 simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
 Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
 grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
 agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of
  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
 via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, as
 nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
 age of YouTube and livestreaming.

 *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social
 Media
 *

 The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together
 and chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening
 because of the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on
 those forms of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the
 government has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few
 years, but whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track
 more traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.

 By last count, PSN alone 

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[malfatah09]

Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara  wrote:
> 
> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan Sekutu 
> kalang kabut.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:
>> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu ori.
>>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that before 
>>> 😷😷😷
>>> 
>>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" 
  wrote:
 How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan 
 Attacks
 
 
 
 Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris which killed at least 
 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are discovering 
 just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most popular 
 gaming console in the world, Sony ’s PlayStation 4.
 
 The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday 
 night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in 
 nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one 
 PlayStation 4 console.
 
 Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright that the 
 PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to the 
 fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more 
 difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
 
 When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that 
 they would be too light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft MSFT 
 -1.92%’s Kinect and PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to 
 spy on users if say, the government wanted a window into your living room.
 
 While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based 
 communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel to 
 effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system 
 may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone 
 calls, texts and email.
 
 Recommended by Forbes
 While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4 to 
 communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the 
 PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even 
 communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden 
 in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves in 
 games like World of Warcraft to infiltrate virtual terrorist meet-ups.
 
 
 
 With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication could 
 have worked just fine. It’s still difficult for investigators to monitor 
 IP-based voice systems compared to say, a simple cellphone. In 2010, the 
 FBI pushed for access to all manner of Internet communications, including 
 gaming chat systems. The FCC did not grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer 
 communications, but the government agency did build its own rigs to record 
 their communications in pursuit of  criminals in organized chats, like a 
 pedophile trying to lure kids via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come 
 equipped with such capabilities, as nearly anything you do on your unit 
 can be recorded if you want, in this age of YouTube and livestreaming.
 
 See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
 
 The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and 
 chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because 
 of the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those 
 forms of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the 
 government has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few 
 years, but whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track 
 more traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.
 
 By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of them 
 active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies can 
 often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or 
 communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on 
 console usage, if that data is even accessible. Few users would visit 
 extremist’s sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or brag about future 
 attacks in a public game lobby. There is no collection of games that 
 really should raise “suspicion” about possible terrorist ties in an era 
 where terrorism-filled Call of Duty titles are the best-selling games of 
 the year, every year. How do you “profile” a gamer when information is not 
 easy to access, and probably will

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Andhika Asmara]

ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan Sekutu
kalang kabut.
On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi"  wrote:

> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu
> ori.
> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>
>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that
>> before 😷😷😷
>>
>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
>> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And
>>> Plan Attacks
>>>
>>> [image: psn arabic]
>>>
>>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>>> 
>>>  which
>>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are
>>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most
>>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>>>
>>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
>>> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
>>> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
>>> PlayStation 4 console.
>>>
>>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>>> 
>>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to
>>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more
>>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>>
>>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that
>>> they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft
>>>  MSFT -1.92%
>>> ’s Kinect and PlayStation’s
>>> Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say, the government
>>> wanted a window into your living room.
>>>
>>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
>>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system
>>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
>>> calls, texts and email.
>>> Recommended by Forbes
>>>
>>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4
>>> to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the
>>> PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even
>>> communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden
>>> in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves
>>> 
>>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>>> meet-ups.
>>>
>>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>>
>>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
>>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>>> 
>>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of
>>>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
>>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, as
>>> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
>>> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>>
>>> *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
>>> *
>>>
>>> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and
>>> chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because of
>>> the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those forms
>>> of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the government
>>> has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few years, but
>>> whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track more
>>> traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.
>>>
>>> By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of
>>> them active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies
>>> can often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or
>>> communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on console
>>> usage, if that data is

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[isnianto]

kalo duitnya cekak mainannya bom molotov.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 21:56, suwandi muljadi  wrote:
> 
> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu ori.
>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:
>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that before 
>> 😷😷😷
>> 
>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan 
>>> Attacks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris which killed at least 
>>> 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are discovering just 
>>> how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most popular gaming 
>>> console in the world, Sony ’s PlayStation 4.
>>> 
>>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday 
>>> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in 
>>> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one 
>>> PlayStation 4 console.
>>> 
>>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright that the PS4 
>>> is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to the fact 
>>> that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more 
>>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>> 
>>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that they 
>>> would be too light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft MSFT 
>>> -1.92%’s Kinect and PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy 
>>> on users if say, the government wanted a window into your living room.
>>> 
>>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based 
>>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel to 
>>> effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system 
>>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone 
>>> calls, texts and email.
>>> 
>>> Recommended by Forbes
>>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4 to 
>>> communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the 
>>> PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even 
>>> communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden 
>>> in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves in games 
>>> like World of Warcraft to infiltrate virtual terrorist meet-ups.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication could 
>>> have worked just fine. It’s still difficult for investigators to monitor 
>>> IP-based voice systems compared to say, a simple cellphone. In 2010, the 
>>> FBI pushed for access to all manner of Internet communications, including 
>>> gaming chat systems. The FCC did not grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer 
>>> communications, but the government agency did build its own rigs to record 
>>> their communications in pursuit of  criminals in organized chats, like a 
>>> pedophile trying to lure kids via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come 
>>> equipped with such capabilities, as nearly anything you do on your unit can 
>>> be recorded if you want, in this age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>> 
>>> See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
>>> 
>>> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and 
>>> chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because of 
>>> the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those forms 
>>> of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the government 
>>> has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few years, but 
>>> whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track more 
>>> traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.
>>> 
>>> By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of them 
>>> active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies can 
>>> often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or 
>>> communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on console 
>>> usage, if that data is even accessible. Few users would visit extremist’s 
>>> sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or brag about future attacks in a 
>>> public game lobby. There is no collection of games that really should raise 
>>> “suspicion” about possible terrorist ties in an era where terrorism-filled 
>>> Call of Duty titles are the best-selling games of the year, every year. How 
>>> do you “profile” a gamer when information is not easy to access, and 
>>> probably will tell you nothing even if you could get your hands on it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The scary part of all this is that there are probably still a number of 
>>> ways that terrorists could send messages to each other without speaking a 
>>> word

Re: [id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[suwandi muljadi]

Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya kudu
ori.
On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada"  wrote:

> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing never think of that before
> 😷😷😷
>
> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
> alvin.tedjasukm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan
>> Attacks
>>
>> [image: psn arabic]
>>
>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>> 
>>  which
>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are
>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most
>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>>
>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
>> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
>> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
>> PlayStation 4 console.
>>
>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>> 
>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to
>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more
>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>
>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that
>> they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft
>>  MSFT -1.92%
>> ’s Kinect and PlayStation’s
>> Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say, the government
>> wanted a window into your living room.
>>
>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
>> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system
>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
>> calls, texts and email.
>> Recommended by Forbes
>>
>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4
>> to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the
>> PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even
>> communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden
>> in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves
>> 
>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>> meet-ups.
>>
>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>
>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication could
>> have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>> 
>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of
>>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, as
>> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
>> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>
>> *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
>> *
>>
>> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and
>> chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because of
>> the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those forms
>> of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the government
>> has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few years, but
>> whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track more
>> traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.
>>
>> By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of them
>> active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies can
>> often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or
>> communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on console
>> usage, if that data is even accessible. Few users would visit extremist’s
>> sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or brag about future attacks in a
>> public game lobby. There is no collection of games that really should raise
>> “suspicion” about 

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On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" 
wrote:

> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan
> Attacks
>
> [image: psn arabic]
>
> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
> 
>  which
> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are
> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most
> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>  ’s PlayStation 4.
>
> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
> night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
> nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
> PlayStation 4 console.
>
> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
> 
> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to
> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more
> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>
> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that
> they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft
>  MSFT -1.92%
> ’s Kinect and PlayStation’s
> Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say, the government
> wanted a window into your living room.
>
> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
> communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system
> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
> calls, texts and email.
> Recommended by Forbes
>
> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4 to
> communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the
> PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even
> communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden
> in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves
> 
> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
> meet-ups.
>
> [image: world of warcraft2]
>
> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication could
> have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
> 
> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of
>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, as
> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>
> *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
> *
>
> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and
> chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because of
> the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those forms
> of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the government
> has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few years, but
> whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track more
> traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.
>
> By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of them
> active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies can
> often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or
> communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on console
> usage, if that data is even accessible. Few users would visit extremist’s
> sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or brag about future attacks in a
> public game lobby. There is no collection of games that really should raise
> “suspicion” about possible terrorist ties in an era where terrorism-filled 
> *Call
> of Duty* titles are the best-selling games of the year, every year. How
> do you “profile” a gamer when information is not easy to access, and
> probably will tell you nothing even

[id-android] WTI OOT: How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks

[Alvin Tedjasukmana]

How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan
Attacks

[image: psn arabic]

Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris

which
killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are
discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most
popular gaming console in the world, Sony
 ’s PlayStation 4.

The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday
night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in
nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one
PlayStation 4 console.

Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright

that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to
the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more
difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.

When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that they
would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft
 MSFT -1.92%
’s Kinect and PlayStation’s
Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say, the government
wanted a window into your living room.

While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based
communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system
may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone
calls, texts and email.
Recommended by Forbes

While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4 to
communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the
PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even
communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden
in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves

in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist meet-ups.

[image: world of warcraft2]

With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication could
have worked just fine. It’s still difficult

for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of
 criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, as
nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this
age of YouTube and livestreaming.

*See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social Media
*

The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and
chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because of
the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those forms
of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the government
has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few years, but
whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track more
traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.

By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of them
active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies can
often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or
communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on console
usage, if that data is even accessible. Few users would visit extremist’s
sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or brag about future attacks in a
public game lobby. There is no collection of games that really should raise
“suspicion” about possible terrorist ties in an era where
terrorism-filled *Call
of Duty* titles are the best-selling games of the year, every year. How do
you “profile” a gamer when information is not easy to access, and probably
will tell you nothing even if you *could* get your hands on it?

[image: ps4 headset]

The scary part of all this is that there are probably still a number of
ways that terrorists could send messages to each other without speaking a
word, if they really wanted to. An ISIS agent could spell out an attack
plan in *Super Mario Maker*’s coins and sha