Re: [ilugd] Database Management My Sql

2012-11-07 Thread Tarun Dua
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Raakesh kumar kumar3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,
 I am working on a project which is live for some gaming purpose. My problem
 is, one of my table size has gone beyond my imagination and it records
 nearly 1 lack per day which is making database searching very slow. We have
 allocated a separate server for database.
 Can anyone suggest me how to get rid of this. One simple solution that
 comes into my mind is to use hadoop but any experienced help on this?

You can use a MySQL slave dedicated to search if you are using Full
Text Search or use Apache Solr for searching instead of using MySQL.

This seems like a good starting guide for HiveDB:-
http://himanshubaweja.com/post/7529434265/analytics-reached-mysql-limit-lets-hive

Ofcourse you need to add more processing power to get results in a
reasonable amount of time.

-Tarun

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Re: [ilugd] October 2012 Meetup

2012-10-11 Thread Tarun Dua
Good to know, its been a while since I have been at the ILUGD and I
would have been disappointed to make a dash to JNU to find no one :-P

-Tarun

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:
 On 10/10/2012, Subhranath Chunder subhran...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry to break a bad news.
 Anuvrat has been tested positive with dengue the night before yesterday,
 and is probably back to his hometown by now.

 Someone else will have to carry forward the initiative from here, until he
 fully recovers and comes back into action.

 Thanks for the update, Shubhro.

 Please expect an announcement from me around noon
 tomorrow. We are definitely confirmed for a meeting this
 coming Sat., the 13th. Details of the programme, and
 timing will be in the announcement.

 Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] October 2012 Meetup

2012-10-01 Thread Tarun Dua
+1 to the attendee list.
-Tarun

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Lynn lynn.and...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote:

 On 1 October 2012 09:51, Sirtaj Singh Kang sir...@sirtaj.net wrote:

 
  Hi,
 
  If there is interest, I'd like to do a short (30min) talk on my
  experiences with Xen and puppet (debian-focused).
 

 That would be welcome.

 Am chasing down Andrew to confirm the availability of
 JNU for Sat. However, this should not be a problem.

 I would also like to speak briefly about open data,
 and the possibilities of mobile-based data collection.


 Sorry - localhost was was hanging due to overload from other unnecessary
 processes.

 eth0 - Kinshuk - Some Mozilla stuff
 eth1 - Anuvrat - Some more mozilla stuff (probably need to bind with port
 above)
 eth2 - Gora - mobile-based data collection
 eth3 - Taj -  Xen and Puppet.

 BTW -As we in the free software world know, JNU needs a kernel to be fully
 functional.
 Anuvrat can you take over like you did last time round? Size the
 requirements after coordinating offline with each of the above (and any
 others) .

 Here is the general low-down on facilities at JNU which are available at
 short notice.
 One room for ~50
 One room for ~20
 The lawns outside - can take more, but since the sun is still sharp, if you
 are planning an afternoon event I will have to organise tenting. Also some
 ideas of how to project in the bright light outside.
 One room with great air-conditioning and can seat 20, but has
 cubicles.which does not make for cosy conversation. Can be used for
 tutorials.

 Samosas/Bread pakoras and Nimbu Pani/Chai on the housethough since we
 have a potential tourist attraction like THE Taj - maybe the ILUG-D
 treasurer should turn up with the cheque book?

 Andrew.
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Junglee.com: Amazon launches India shopping site

2012-02-02 Thread Tarun Dua
 They will only kill the indian service providers.
sarcasm
Yes, the 'indian service providers' would just roll over for them
/sarcasm
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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL][JOB] Devops openings at E2E Networks

2011-10-30 Thread Tarun Dua
That would be the valuation determined by previous/future investors in
the company.

Regards
-Tarun
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:41 PM, s. K Chandra slm12...@yahoo.co.in wrote:
  What is value of your stock !

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL][JOB] Devops openings at E2E Networks Private Limited

2011-10-28 Thread Tarun Dua
Experience Required:-
Atleast 2 years in Remote Operations with Linux Servers for a large
and growing web application environment with high uptime and benchmark
automation using ssh in a web startup/dedicated hosting company (
CPanel/Plesk experience is neither needed nor desirable for this
position )

Optional  Desirable:- Backup  Disaster Recovery tool chain
development/deployment using primarily Open Source Technologies.


Skill Sets Required:-
Apache/MySQL/Postfix/Squid/SVN/GIT/ssh/Wordpress intermediate
configuration and scripting skills
Ability to hack solutions together using Open Source

Number of Positions:-
4

Job Responsibilities:-
1. Supporting a large and diverse client base on the ticketing system
2. Work in a flexible environment to evaluate and implement innovative
technologies

Location: Faridabad
Telecommute option maybe made available at discretion of reporting
manager after 6 months of service.

Compensation:-
Salary + Stock Options

Contact us:-
care...@e2enetworks.com

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Re: [ilugd] DSC Registration for efiling

2011-08-06 Thread Tarun Dua
I don't think the key gets uploaded to their site but only to the Java
Applet which runs inside your browser and is only used to sign the
document you are trying to upload.

Regards
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[ilugd] Open Source Tools for creating PDF Forms with Digital Signature Fields

2010-09-27 Thread Tarun Dua
I am looking for Open Source Tool chain to produce PDF Forms with
Digital Signature Fields ( 2 or more )

With end use being 'Have Acrobat Reader users save form data in text
fields and append their digital signatures visibly to the digital
signature fields.

I have tried using Scribus and read a bit about OpenOffice's
capabilties but using either of them, the PDF Forms can't save form
data ( I didn't figure out how to add digital signature fields yet )
From what I read changing permissions on pdf files can enable the data
to be saved using Acrobat Reader, is there an Open Source library that
can modify the permissions on a PDF form files ?

-Tarun

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Re: [ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Free and Open Source Game Servers

2010-07-13 Thread Tarun Dua
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:53 PM, narendra sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:

 We can try for setting up Google's HTML5 based Quake..
http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/wiki/CompatibleBrowsers

The compatibility list appears pretty small.

-Tarun

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Re: [ilugd] Need J2EE help

2010-07-09 Thread Tarun Dua
 Okay alright tell me one thing that is there anything like classpath in
 Linux. If yes please tell me how to set classpath in Linux?

 You probably mean CLASSPATH for Java applications, which you can set by
 passing '-cp' argument to the 'java' command-line. For details, RTFM java(1)
 OR the documentation of the Servlet container, if you're looking for
 configuration of your servlet container.

 - --
 Ashish SHUKLA
You can add a line like
export CLASSPATH=whatever it is

in your .bash_profile file

Regards
-Tarun

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[ilugd] mcelog output debug help

2010-06-08 Thread Tarun Dua
Any ideas on deciphering it, any pointers to mcelog man page are
useless, it doesn't explain anything
MCE 0
HARDWARE ERROR. This is *NOT* a software problem!
Please contact your hardware vendor
CPU 2 BANK 8 TSC 91c60a05c8e
MISC ad478e0100041285 ADDR 223e0b500
STATUS cc0004c1009f MCGSTATUS 0

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Re: [ilugd] Noida Open Source Users Group, first meet.

2010-05-23 Thread Tarun Dua
Alright I'll try and join in the fun, is fact that there is a bit of
history of Noida meetups
http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg09136.html

I have been looking forward to meet some of the attendees anyway at Noida.

Also if folks think it would be useful I can ask Amity University
folks to provide a venue for the same. I am fine with Great India Mall
as such though it can be a bit noisy.

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[ilugd] Layer 7 loadbalancing opensource solutions

2010-04-19 Thread Tarun Dua
1. Does anyone have squid reverse proxy load balancing examples where
the cache_peers get traffic distributed as percentages/weights and
session based stickiness is possible.
2. What other options exist for load balancing in opensource, Squid
Reverse proxy setup totally rocks with regard to offloading say SSL
acceleration to another server for instance, HAproxy/Nginx rock with
regard to wirespeeds that can be achieved through either one not sure
if they can do SSL offload.
3. What else is out there which is rock solid, perlbal has impeccable
reference implementations.

-Tarun

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[ilugd] spamassassin does it still work

2010-04-14 Thread Tarun Dua
What are the best practices for spam fighting with spamassassin these
days. It definitely doesn't work out of the box.
-Tarun

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Re: [ilugd] SNMP based web monitoring tool

2010-04-09 Thread Tarun Dua
 We have 100+ Linux boxes and 200+ RHEL Virtual Instances running. We
 are looking for SNMP based Open Source web based monitoring tool for
 monitoring these system from single browser. Please help to point me
 to url if any one is aware about any such product.

Zabbix is good too and easier to setup than nagios anyday. OpenNMS is
a bit opaque, hard to debug and resource hungry, might require RAID-10
for its DB for making it work for that many machines but if it works
properly its auto-discovery saves you hours of effort.
-Tarun

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[ilugd] Hardware RAID card where status can be monitored from CentOS and Debian

2010-04-06 Thread Tarun Dua
Any recommendations for hardware RAID cards which can be monitored for
RAID health from CentOS and Debian.
Also any experience in actual perfomance improvement with hardware
RAID cards over software RAID.  I am intending to run RAID 10.


-Tarun

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Re: [ilugd] Hardware RAID card where status can be monitored from CentOS and Debian

2010-04-06 Thread Tarun Dua
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 depends on what you mean by fine. You will need to do some parsing in a
 script and feed that into your monitoring system like nagios yourself.

 Here is some output from the tw_cli command line client that people use with
 3ware cards :

 # ./tw_cli.x86_64 /c0 show

 Unit  UnitType  Status         %RCmpl  %V/I/M  Stripe  Size(GB)  Cache AVrfy
 --
 u0    RAID-1    OK             -       -       -       465.651   ON     OFF
 u1    RAID-10   OK             -       -       64K     931.303   ON     OFF

 Port   Status           Unit   Size        Blocks        Serial
 ---
 p0     OK               u0     465.76 GB   976773168     9QM0J6Q9
 p1     OK               u0     465.76 GB   976773168     9QM0JGPX
 p2     OK               u1     465.76 GB   976773168     9QM0JG5W
 p3     OK               u1     465.76 GB   976773168     9QM0JG63
 p4     OK               u1     465.76 GB   976773168     9QM0JGNX
 p5     OK               u1     465.76 GB   976773168     9QM0GW98
 p6     NOT-PRESENT      -      -           -             -
 p7     NOT-PRESENT      -      -           -             -

 Name  OnlineState  BBUReady  Status    Volt     Temp     Hours  LastCapTest
 ---
 bbu   On           Yes       OK        OK       OK       0      xx-xxx-
I think this is good enough.
-Tarun

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Open Source Technology Job Openings at E2E Networks Private Limited

2010-03-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Pre-sales and Post sales Support

24×7 Oncall and indian timezone web/email/telephonic support/System
Administration roles in Delhi (Mumbai, Hyderabad and Bangalore)
Are you a true blue blooded system administrator with elite skills on
Linux/FreeBSD  Windows Server Virtualization Platforms ?
We like our customers to speak to people to who know all the answers
and almost never need to be called back again through an escalation
matrix. If you are a know it all kind, then this might be a position
for you. Also you need to be able to lift upto 25KG weight. Know how
to rackmount servers, do structured cabling, crimp ethernet cables,
understand power management and cooling issues in a datacenter.


System Programmers/System Architects anywhere in India. Are you a
Linux/Unix geek who knows Perl or Ruby on Rails is familiar with
Operations/Automation. Required domain knowledge of Internet
Networking routing/switching/firewalls/loadbalancers/content switching
and server provisioning, fault and performance management.

Who should apply :-

0. These are remote telecommute positions, we aren’t big fans of daily
commute and would like to work with people who do not care for a
physical office.
1. This is not a training/internship, we are looking for fairly
self-motivated individuals who can deliver on their own without any
hand holding. It doesn’t matter if you have no previous industry
experience.
2. You should at the least have access to at least a 512 Kbps or above
broadband connection ( and not firewalled by your provider in any way
) in your area to telecommute.
3. You shouldn’t be encumbered by any Intellectual property,
Proprietary rights and Non-disclosure agreements to work in your own
time on any project and be able to assign the copyrights/moral and
other rights of the same to the company in lieu of equity and salary.
We may at our discretion release fully or parts of the projects
executed under Open Source Licenses.
4. Please make sure you meet the qualifications before applying.

So if you want to contribute to an exciting early stage computing
infrastructure startup for equity and salary then e-mail us at
care...@e2enetworks.com

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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-13 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 On Wednesday 13 Feb 2008, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla wrote:
  [snip]
  Output from the script is posted at following
  URL:http://flickr.com/photos/wahjava/2263030638/ BtW, are you trying
  to compete with snap.com which also does similarstuff, but uses
  Firefox and probably Xvfb too :) . Anyways its none ofmy business.
 
 The script got mangled but I get the general idea, thanks!  I think it'd 
 be easier to use Konqueror and kdcop to get the image (if Konqueror 
 supports it), less prone to error.  Xvfb seems to be the way to go 
 anyway.
http://khtml2png.sourceforge.net is what you need. You still might need to use
Xvfb(and make sure you give it appropriate virtual screen size) if you are not
trying to run it on a server. And if you don't want to ignore embedded flash and
Java applets you would need to configure the Konquerer settings accordingly.
-Tarun





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Re: [ilugd] Save web page to image

2008-02-13 Thread Tarun Dua
Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
s/server/desktop/
 





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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL]Linux Remote System Administration Positions at Pune

2006-09-26 Thread Tarun Dua
Remote Linux System Administrator(s)

Number of Positions:2

Job Description:
* Ability to work with RHEL 4.x/CentOS 4.x
* Working knowledge of bash, ssh, NFS, Tomcat, J2SDK, Ant, DNS, and
PostgreSQL
* Work in storage technology(SAN, RAID), High Availability, Load
Balancing and high bandwidth operations.
* Data Center management and maintenance
* Ability to manage and troubleshoot large Linux
operation remotely.
* Scripting routine tasks with discoverability and documentation of
processes

Experience Requirements:
* 0-3 years of current Linux Systems Administration experience including
24/7/365 environments and remote management.
* Perl or Shell scripting knowledge is a definite plus.

Compensation:
* Above average
* Stock options are also offered

Location:
Pune

Employer: Nanocast R  D India Pvt. Ltd.

-Tarun

PS: Please mail me back at tarun dot dua at nanocast dot com with your
latest resume in HTML/Plaintext/RTF formats


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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Civicspace / Drupal.org Internship Program in India

2006-07-03 Thread Tarun Dua
Quote from drupal.in

With 75,000+ Drupal power websites and an emerging industry supporting over 
150 professionals, the open-source Drupal project and community is exploding. 
At the heart of this community is an incredibly active and productive group 
of contributors. Creating contributed modules, themes, bug fixes, and core 
enhancement, these individuals define the course of the Drupal project and 
the ecosystem of users, tinkerers, and professionals around it.

Through this internship program we will attempt to train students from India 
the ins and outs of Drupal and help them established themselves as long term 
contributors to the Drupal project. Over two months the selected students 
will work closely with project mentors on real world Drupal projects; 
contributed modules, and core patches. They will learn the Drupal development 
process and gain extremely valuable experience interacting with a live 
open-source project. Students will be paid a stipend of 4,600 INR to 8,000 
INR a month depending on the level of their contributions to the Drupal 
project.

The type of candidate we are looking for:

* Doesn't have to have a formal higher education in computer engineering
* Doesn't have to be pursuing personal projects relevant to Drupal
* Doesn't have to have job experience
* Has to be a self starter
* Has to be genuinely curious and interested in developing software
* Has to have web application development experience
* Has to be social and willing to provide support to others.

End Quote from drupal.in

Applying to Summer Drupal training program in India can be done online at 
http://drupal.in/training

Please feel free to forward this information to any of your friends who might 
be interested in this Internship Program.

Thanks
-Tarun

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Re: [ilugd] june meet - on 26-06-2005

2005-06-25 Thread Tarun Dua
T.Meyarivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 the date is fixed and no speakers as yet..

Mary,

Having been there, seen it all I am repeating my suggestions which couldn't be 
implemented while I was there due to absence of a formal society.

How to get a regular stream of speakers for the longer term who have worked on 
their presentations and technology behind it?

The suggestion I repeat below

LUG as a professional body of importance for technologists(and others) 
promoting Free and Open Source Software should invite ( send postal mailers ) 
to the heads of Educational Institutions(or heads of Computer Science 
Depeartments) in LUG's area of influence and a little beyond, offering to pay 
speakers ( students!!) honorarium ( to cover travel expenses and a small party 
back home ) and issue a certificate ( issued by Secretary/Joint Secretary of 
LUG in Delhi ) for speaking on topics related to themes of the monthly meets.
 
LUG needs to make it a defined and written down process of the society to 
offer a uniform honorarium to students spending time to prepare technical 
topics delivering the presentations, once the presentations (papers!!) are 
accepted.

Each themed meet can be made a competitive event where double the honorarium 
can be paid to the best speaker and a corresponding certificate stating the 
same provided.( criteria can be defined for basing the best speaker on 
audience/judges inputs ).

Even the judges can be invited from amongst the lecturers/professors in the 
educational institutions( NGOs!!) and issued offical Linux Delhi certificates.

This needs a bit of long term planning as in:-
1. Decide the themes for the next 4 ILUGD meets 
2. Invite speakers for the topics under meet themes for the meets to be held 
two months from now.
3. Send out postal mailers to head of computer science departments inviting 
audience for technical topics being presented ( might be a good idea to 
provide certificates or other takeaways related to the talks to the attendees 
too )

The essence of doing it right is planning and providing sufficient time and 
incentive to potential speakers to prepare 2-3 months in advance. 

I know many other LUGs do not do this as they are more successful in regularly 
involving students as volunteers and perhaps even a steady stream of star 
speakers. If we can't invite the stars we must promote a new generation of 
FOSS champions. The best of these stars can then be invited to speak for 
ILUGD at bigger fora.

All this should not prevent no more than a single regular old speaker from 
amongst the regular LUG guys(and gals!! sorry Mary! ) to speak to the 
audience once in a while at the meets.

Most importantly I am not volunteering to help implement this as I am too far 
away from the scene of all the action however I can always criticise people 
who do any actual work and watch from the sidelines to have my fun.

Cheers!!!
-Tarun


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Re: [ilugd] SMS Gateway + HTTP request ???

2005-05-26 Thread Tarun Dua
santosh dubey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes..
 SMS Gateway like kannel can send sms by using GSM
 mobile phones.
 Is there any way by which such SMS gateway can send
 sms to some http server from where http server will
 send sms to mobiles using some utility.
 
 I will be thanksful for your response.
Short answer. Yes.
There is the concept of HTTP SMSC in the Kannel.
RTFM
-Tarun


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Re: [ilugd] Societification Update

2005-04-17 Thread Tarun Dua
Kishore Bhargava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 We have a society finally registered.
 
 The Certificate of Registration (Under Societies Registration Act XXI of 1860)
 
 No:. S-52370 of 2005
 
 Linux Users Group
This is great news. So how does one become a member of the society. Does one
need to be  a resident of Delhi to become a member ;-).
-Tarun


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[ilugd] Re: The Future of Open Source?

2005-02-14 Thread Tarun Dua
Linux Lingam wrote:
 1) does not allow anonymous comments. forces someone to get an account
 on blogger. bleaaah!
This is more to prevent automated comment spam I guess. Nothing wrong in
going through the manual process of creating an anonymous sounding name
like linuxlingam and commenting on it.
/dig
 2) the values you promote are more meaningful if you live them:
 publish your article under the FDL, the verbatim, or the
 creativecommons license, and mention this clearly next to the article,
 in plain view.
Sounds fun.
-Tarun
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-14 Thread Tarun Dua
Tarun Dua wrote:

   I would like to request Sandip to point creative.lug-delhi.org ( since I
 no longer believe its the community that controls linux-delhi.org domain
 and Sandip doesn't claim anything official about what is on his domain )
 to the original site and can Mairu ( who also happens to moderate the
 content on the current linux-delhi.org site ) act as a moderator for the
 creative content and make sure the site's
I am assuming that Sudev would still be supporting the initiative as yet.
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-14 Thread Tarun Dua
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 While I have no problem pointing creative.lug-delhi.org to the previous
 content, my personal wish is that all community interactions happen
 under the linux-delhi.org domain. lug-delhi.org is supposed to be a
 passive supplemental(non-overlapping) resource for the LUG. I would hate
 to see it be an *alternative* to linux-delhi.org.

So are we finally going to see more democracy finally at the site seen by
all of us as the community's site. 

Just a few things that have come up in the recent discussions.

The domainname management.
The external URL's implying association with the site. Someone very
conviniently sidestepped this issue.
The putting up of sponsorship logo's and the regular policy associated with
it.

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[ilugd] Re: Re: Re: Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-14 Thread Tarun Dua
vivek khurana wrote:
You are entitled to your view of sequence of events.
 clicked on the link it turned out to be a website of a
 compnay which has nothing to do with web hosting and
Well I am not sure why a webhost needs to sponsor in the first place.
  Now i dont know when did Sudev came into picture.
Sudev provided space on my asking him. Period.
I feel quite sick and tired of the whole discussion now. 
Upto the community to manage its affairs I don't feel like being a part of
it anymore.
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-13 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur wrote:

 Mairu I forgot to mention in the previous mail, that the
 Mairu sub-domain, http://creative.linux-delhi.org is not
 Mairu available anymore.  (for some reason)
 
 It's not available
SNIP

And was this discussed threadbare and democratically on the list by the
Domain administrator of Linux Delhi and done with the consent of the
community ?

Or rather did the domain administrator even announce it on the list ( so it
could be discussed ) or just presumed to represent and act on behalf of the
community of 3700+ members registered members and countless un-registered
members ?

As something offtopic: There's a Linux community site in India on which all
rights are reserved for a certain X corporation as per the footer I
wonder if that site needs to be taken down. Did I hear someone say double
standards as yet.
/sarcasm

And if so are there any valid objections to myself claiming to maintain a
site after being abandoned by its original maintainers to uncertainty(over
really trivial and meaningless arguments) for a few days until I could find
someone creative ( and nice to train and handover to )

I had mentioned as much as that I would be technically managing the creative
and put the site back up in the view of a general opinion that the site
should be back up as soon as possible and did leave the option below. 

If the community has a problem please go ahead and point the site to another
location. However I do not believe that the domain administrator of linux
delhi is an elected representative of community and therefore I believe
its not a decision taken by the community.


However as an ordinary LUG member ( one who never claimed to be a
something-designate ) interested in getting this initiative going forward
with or without the original members( yes I was one of the original persons
who would have liked to see this happen without a hitch ).

  I would like to request Sandip to point creative.lug-delhi.org ( since I
no longer believe its the community that controls linux-delhi.org domain
and Sandip doesn't claim anything official about what is on his domain ) 
to the original site and can Mairu ( who also happens to moderate the
content on the current linux-delhi.org site ) act as a moderator for the
creative content and make sure the site's 

I think this is going to be a long discussion on how the community chooses
to work. So if benovalent dictatorship ( an oxymoron) is the way
community chooses to manage itself then so be it, I choose to follow the
leaders in the process and policy. 

If it happens to be a democracy and consultative process let it be pervasive
and not selectively applied as a principle and without letting anyone being
disenfranchised on the basis of location.. and inability to be physically
present during the voting process.

Perhaps we need to discuss how a initiatives to this effect are being 
scuttled by interests ( resisting the temptation to call them vested as yet
as I feel there is still hope ) claiming to represent the community ( or
this is just my view -- I would be happy to be proven wrong on this count
for the community's sake )

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[ilugd] Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-08 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Exactly what issues are there with branding?  As far as I remember
 when Tarun Dua had volunteered to host creative.linux-delhi.org 
As it stands I promised to get the required space available. So I got it
sponsored from some nice guys who want a small diminuitive link at the
footer. There was an apparent rough consensus with Niyam that he won't
bother about a smallish link at the footer(for whosoever it maybe) and care
for the main 99% screen area of the site. 

I wouldn't have as much as wanted it be known that I'll be the host and that
was actually one of the things I told Niyam. And I am definitely not
enjoying the current spotlight on me.

 he had 
 not specified that he'd be requiring branding.  Has there been any
 status change since then?
Yes and no! May I request that we take this topic for offlist discussion for
a full clarification. I'll try and drop in at IHC today evening.

 May I ask how much effort and content has gone into the site so far?
 If this issue isn't resolved within a day please get the content and
 the presentation and move them to another provider.

My cooperation would be available in full for whatever the content owners
and stakeholders (Niyam and Vivek) for this site decide.

Niyam doesn't seem to be reachable on phone. I have been trying to get to
him since yesterday. I have been able to reach Vivek but our discussions
were inconclusive.

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[ilugd] Re: Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-08 Thread Tarun Dua
vivek khurana wrote:
  Nothing wrong, but as i have mentioned in my earlier
 mail it has to be transparent and unanimous decision
 of  comunity.
You now sound almost like me. I am feeling great.
Do I now hope you shall stick to your words for the next few days.

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[ilugd] Re: Re: [OT][CrossPost] Creative dot (site down)

2005-02-08 Thread Tarun Dua
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 Man, we have lots to do in this site. I have been looking forward to
 this site for so long, and I hate to see it fall apart due to petty ego
 problems. :(

This atmosphere of low trust has taken its toll on many of the
inter-personal relationships we had ( or I believed we had ) between us 
fellow lug members and I could see this happening thats why my original
request now repeated by Raj Mathur lets discuss offlist and sort it out
fast.
There has been a lot of mud slinging and I am not sure how many of us will
come out clean.
Anyhow! Her is my take on it.
1. The site will be back soon with all the original objectives and I'll take
time out to manage it whenever it needs technical intervention.
2. If Linux Delhi has any outstanding issues with branding I'd like to ask
Sandip to point his un-official domain to creative dot
( creative.lug-delhi.org) and be done with it. 
3. If anyone has any issues with this arrangement go ahead have
creative.linux-delhi.org pointed to another hosting location. Perhaps a bit
of competition to this would do the community more good than we originally
intended and Niyam ( and I ) would be all the more happier.

Peace

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[ilugd] [COMMERCIAL] Linux-Telecom Jobs at Induslogic in Noida

2005-02-04 Thread Tarun Dua
In case you don't know someone at Induslogic, you are welcome to mail me
your resume at lists at tarundua dot net. I'll be happy to refer your
profile to the HR at Induslogic in case it fits the requirements. All of
the following jobs assume familiarity with Unix ( Linux preferred )

1. Protocol Developer - VoIP / Mobile
Create ALG (application-level gateway) for a specific protocols related
to VoIP or Mobile (e.g. 3GPP, 3GPP2, 3GP-IMS, MGCP).
Integrate these protocols into existing gateways and soft-switches.
Evaluate and enhance existing protocol stacks (both commercial and
open-source)
Experience with protocol or stack implementation with either MGCP, 3GPP,
3GPP2 or any other closely related VoIP or mobile domain
Experience with Unix (especially linux) networking.
Positions Open: 4

2. Blackbox Tester - VoIP
Test the VoIP and mobile switches as a blackbox.
Enhance and create test cases for the above.
Test compatibility with a wide variety of equipment from CISCO, Nortel
and others.
Test performance 
6 or more years of testing experience
Ability to creatively develop test cases for telecom switches
Experience with testing protocols and/or call generating devices.
Experience with UNIX networking
Experience with VOIP (SIP or H.323)
Experience with TCP / IP sniffers and other protocol debugging tools
Any familiarity with setting up and debugging networks a big plus
Positons Open: 3

3. Blackbox Test Lead
Design the test case and set up the test lab for testing VoIP switches 
Work as senior member, co-ordinator and mentor of other blackbox testers
8 or more years of testing experience.
Ability to creatively develop test cases for telecom switches
Experience with testing protocols and/or call generating devices.
Experience with UNIX networking
Experience with VOIP (SIP or H.323)
Experience with TCP / IP sniffers and other protocol debugging tools
Any familiarity with setting up and debugging networks a big plus
Same as the position above but stronger
Positions Open: 1

4. BlackBox GUI Tester - QTP
Test administrative and end-user centric GUIs for VoIP switches.
Run manual test cases
Identify and automate regression test cases
Very strong understanding of standard paradigms in testing space and
testing processes
Ability to creatively develop test cases
Experience with QTP
Experience with test automation in telecom domain
Familiarity with telecom billing reports and CDRs.
Experience with VLDBs and challenges in testing GUIs written on them
Positions Open: 1

5. BlackBox GUI Test Lead
Work as senior member, co-ordinator and mentor of other blackbox testers
Identify and automate regression test cases
Very strong understanding of standard paradigms in testing space and
testing processes
Ability to creatively develop test cases
Experience with QTP
Experience with test automation in telecom domain
Familiarity with telecom billing reports and CDRs.
Experience with VLDBs and challenges in testing GUIs written on them
Same as the position above but stronger
Positions Open:1

6. WhiteBox Tester - Telecom
Develop automated test cases in Python 
Enhance current call generators (C-code that automatically generates
calls for testing) for new test cases
Enhance the product code (C++ voip gateway) to improve its testability
C (or C++) programming
IP network programming or troubleshooting
Working knowledge of UNIX (Linux preferred)
Experience with preferably Python or any object-oriented language
Knowledge of Ethernet and/or any other voip or mobile protocol or any
specific area in telecom domain (like call handling)
Experience with test planning and automation
Shell programming
Positions Open: 2

7. WhiteBox Test Lead
Lead the above group
Work as senior member, co-ordinator and mentor of other white box
testers
Develop automated test cases in Python 
Enhance current call generators (C-code that automatically generates
calls for testing) for new test cases
Enhance the product code (C++ voip gateway) to improve its testability
C (or C++) programming
IP network programming or troubleshooting
Working knowledge of UNIX (Linux preferred)
Experience with preferably Python or any object-oriented language
Knowledge of Ethernet and/or any other voip or mobile protocol or any
specific area in telecom domain (like call handling)
Experience with test planning and automation
Same as the position above but stronger
Positions Open: 1

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[ilugd] http://linux-delhi.org/ilugd/ Whats up with this link

2005-01-25 Thread Tarun Dua
Came across this link in google

http://linux-delhi.org/ilugd

Is it owned or is it some preservation of when it got owned.
If it is not owned currently it would be better to replace it with whatever
was there at this link earlier unless we want search engines to consider
the site owned.
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!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
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html
head
titleOwned by Randomhero/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
style type=text/css
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body
div align=center
  p class=style1 style2 Wena Seguridad :
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  p class=style1img
src=http://randomhero.almacenweb.com/randomhero/owned.jpg; width=400
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[ilugd] Re: LA2005 CD sales

2005-01-17 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur wrote:

 Distribution  CDs   Copies  Price
   ---   --  -
 Knoppix   1 50  50
 Fedora Core 3 4 150 50
 Morphix   1 50  30
 Debian Sarge  7 300 20
I for one would love to buy a 7 CD Sarge set for Rs. 20/-.
Looks like the number of copies and prices have been interchanged. 

dig
So much for your favourite scriptable ( or Lispable) editor.
/dig

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[ilugd] Fwd: One Day One Command

2005-01-07 Thread Tarun Dua

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 Subject: One Day One Command
 From: Bharathi S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 18:07:53 +0530
 Newsgroup: gmane.org.user-groups.linux.ilugc

 One Day One Command :-
 -
 
 date -  Print  set the system data  time 
 
 Summary: 
 
 date will print the time information in different formats and we can 
 also make a custom formats using the options.
 
 Example:
 
 $ date == print the current date and time
 $ date -d '3year ago' == Same date but 3 yr ago
 $ date --set='-10 minutes' == Reduce 10 min in the current time
 $ date '+%b %_e %a %X %Z %Y' == Current date in custom format.
 
 Read : info date
 
 Bye :)
 -- 
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[ilugd] Re: [help] does any one knows this Error !! { PAM (dlerror: libkrbafs.so.0:.....)}

2004-12-27 Thread Tarun Dua
Dhanraj sheth wrote:

 Dec 27 16:06:46 in sshd[27548]: PAM unable to
 dlopen(/lib/security/pam_krb5.so)
Does this file exist.
If not install it.
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[ilugd] [Fwd: [Commons-Law] Patent Ordnance 2004]

2004-12-26 Thread Tarun Dua
-Forwarded Message-
From: Prashant Iyengar 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Commons-Law] Patent Ordnance 2004
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 11:47:54 +0530

Hi,
The Ministry of Law and justice has a pdf copy of the Patent Ordnance but I
don't know if this is the right one.
http://lawmin.nic.in/Patents%20Amendment%20Ordinance%202004.pdf

Section 5 of the Act which conferred process patents on food and drugs has been
omitted entirely. Am still going through the text so don't have any detailed
comments right now.
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[ilugd] Re: name server help - 2

2004-12-26 Thread Tarun Dua
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) i do not get any answer if i try from any machine here. how does this
ns1.mydomain.com get mapped on the net? (do i ask my isp to do a A map for
ns1.mydomain.com to the ip i want). will that sove the issue?
You need to ask your domain registrar to register your nameservers and
corresponding IPs the first time you want to use them.
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[ilugd] [Fwd: Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 26th Dec 2004]

2004-12-23 Thread Tarun Dua
Hi,

What is the general opinion. 
Should the meet be pre-poned to 25th December.

Thanks
-Tarun
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From: kapil dua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 26th Dec 2004
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:25:57 -0800

few of us(manpreet,vivek,rajshekhar,me .) has
problem with 26 Dec

can we have meet on 25 Dec , so more people can come
for meet.

regards

kapil 

 
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 Monthly Meet -- ILUGD Societification
 Sun, Dec 26, 2004 - 02:00PM 
 
 Venue: 
 Delhi Haat
 
 Agenda: 
 1. ILUGD Societification
 2. ILUGD role in Linux Asia
 
 Directions for reaching the venue:-
 
 If you are coming from Moolchand on Ring Road
 towards south towards
 Dhaula Kuan Flyover turn right towards INA Market.
 Delhi Haat is
 prominently visible on the left.
 
 After you have reached Delhi Haat you need to buy a
 ticket to enter
 Delhi Haat from one of the ticket counters and
 walking straight till the
 end of the Delhi Haat where you will find a couple
 of familiar faces.
 
  
 Meet FAQ:- 
 1. Who can attend the meet ? 
 Anyone can attend the meet.
  
 2. Is there any fee for attending the meet ?
 No there is no fee just wave in and walk in.
 There is only a voluntary contribution towards
 Snacks/Tea/Cold-Drinks
 
 Contact:-
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[ilugd] Re: [Fwd: Re: [ilugd-announce] ILUGD Monthly Meet 26th Dec 2004]

2004-12-23 Thread Tarun Dua
Sudev Barar wrote:

 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 14:03, Tarun Dua wrote:
 Hi,
 
 What is the general opinion.
 Should the meet be pre-poned to 25th December.
 Mat be MNC's or affiliates consider 25th a universal holiday. My company
 does not:-(
 so personally 26t is better.
So be it then. In any case its too late to change it without causing a lot
of confusion.
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[ilugd] Re: Linux Delhi meet suggestion

2004-12-17 Thread Tarun Dua
Viksit Gaur wrote:
 Possibly. But even if they are not, why don't we get
 some sort of a strategy to actually contact those
 colleges and see how many of them have inhouse LUGs,
 failing which we could help them set it up.
Ah! Finally a volunteer to write a strategy document.
 
 With more Mini-LUGs in and around (which could maybe
 be affliated to ilugd as a parent LUG or something),
 you'd have intra meetings, which would give a boost to
 the dwindling numbers of interested people.
Well the Mini-LUGs are welcome to use the ILUGD mailing list as a home
mailing list for solving problems and organizing meetings until they can
have the critical mass by themselves. 

 *) Another suggestion - Apart from just Discussions of
 stuff, or presentations/demos of something, have a
 monthly competition of some sort? The Dev meet could
 have a programming challenge, the ilugd meet could
 have something more oriented towards the average user
 - best desktop, Linux Gaming  challenges, GIMP art,
 Blender Art.. the possiblities are endless.
I would say excellent idea. 
 IMHO, we should dichotomize the evangelism track, and
 assume that a large number of people ARE using Linux.
We can do away with that if we get enough well-prepared talks.
 Then, a kind of constitution could be established,
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/main.cgi?action=societificationmId=1047

I am still waiting for the President Designate's personal information to
begin the process for societification.
/mudslinging

 *) Random thought - If we form a non profit
 organization, does the Government give us grants etc
 to propogate Linux? (like they do to NGOs?)
Nah! I wouldn't recommend asking money from the Indian Government and risk
their meddlesome bureaucrats anywhere near ILUGD. The technocrats are
however welcome to attend ILUGD meetings and learn about Linux and Open
Source.

-Tarun Dua


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[ilugd] Linux Delhi meet suggestion

2004-12-16 Thread Tarun Dua
Hi All,

Looks like no one is interested in the Linux Delhi Meeting this month.
I have a suggestion on how to make it more interesting and worthwhile.
There are a lot of colleges around Delhi/Noida/Gurgaon/Faridabad and beyond
the pale.

I suspect a lot of students are on the list. 

suggestion

Students are invited to become speakers at ILUGD/ILUGD-DEV meetings with
prepared technical topics (with slides sent in advance) at the LUG meetings
and be prepared to answer questions. ( read: Grilled by the ILUGD crowd ).

I propose a honorarium be paid for students from the ILUGD kitty ( we can
look at sponsers if required ) with a view to reimburse their cost of
travelling to the venue ( and taking their time out to prepare the talks
well). In addition ILUGD can issue a letter of appreciation for the same
which can help the students add to their resume.

/suggestion

Thanks
-Tarun
PS: We need a venue for the meet. Or alternatively we land up at Raj
Mathur's place(if he is willing to host) or Delhi Haat.


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[ilugd] Linux Delhi Meeting December/January

2004-12-15 Thread Tarun Dua
Hi All,

We are considerably delayed for the December meet( yes please point fingers
at me ), thanks in no small measure to lot of ILUGDites gone to Bangalore
( almost more than the number of people you see in the Monthly meetings
these days ).
Should we have a meeting on Dec. 26th, 9th January or should ILUGDites
meetup for a 31st December night party which happens to be a Friday.

Thanks
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[ilugd] Re: Firewall on linux server

2004-11-30 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Shekhar wrote:
 If you can afford it, try to get an ensim/plesk control panel.  They
 will make your task much easier. (Note: i have no connection to either
 one of them)
Let me put it this way they make it easy to easy things and impossible to do
difficult things. Stick to webmin. 
 At the very least run the Linux hardening script bastille
 http://www.bastille-linux.org/
Please don't do this unless you know what you are doing. You will end up
spending lot of time trying to undo.

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[ilugd] Minutes of Meeting November 28th

2004-11-29 Thread Tarun Dua
Minutes of Meeting:-

1. Atul Asthana spoke about length about the various issues faced in
promoting linux and need for a multi-pronged approach as opposed to one
right way. Outlining the importance of sales, he highlighted that Intel
8086 was chosen as the base for IBM PC only because of good marketing and
not on technical merits alone against much better processors at the time
( the Z-80 and M-68000). However intel had a much better sales team.

2. Raj Mathur highlighted a recent news item in economic times ( I don't
have the URL - if someone has it please post it here) Govt. of India is
going to push through legislation which will in effect announce software
patents to be applicable in India from January 1st 2005 without debate.

Raj Mathur will also prepare a position paper on the same.

The effects this would have on free software development/use and even the
general software industry would devastating. 

-- The remaining talks were postponed till next meet.

3. The final attendance at the meet barely reached the double digit this
time to 10.

4. The rest of the meet was continued at the Naraina PVR complex and ended
with a movie.

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[ilugd] Re: November 28th Linux Delhi Monthly Meeting

2004-11-27 Thread Tarun Dua
Arjun Asthana wrote:

 Apologies, the topic of my talk/discussion is 'selling Linux', that is,
 convincing the people to switch over to Linux (desktop and server). Of
 course pushing in government is included.
oops !! wherever from I got that idea. 
Thanks for the correction Atul.
-Tarun


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[ilugd] November 28th Linux Delhi Monthly Meeting

2004-11-26 Thread Tarun Dua
Monthly Meet Linux Delhi
Sun, Nov 28, 2004 - 02:00PM 

Venue: 
School Of Convergence @ International Management Institute 
B-10, Qutab Institutional Area, 
Tara Crescent, 
New Delhi - 110016

Agenda: 
Directions for reaching the venue: 
 
1) If Coming from IIT or Mehrauli side, Come upto 
Adhchini mod (x-ing) and turn towards Katwaria Sarai. 
Just after Bus stop (land mark - Indian Statistical 
Institute) you will see a board of Rockwell Hospital. 
Turn Left towards Rockwell Hospital (where board 
points). Take first turn on right, third building is 
International  Mangement Institute(IMI). Stop at gate 
and ask for SOC. 
 
2) If coming from Ber Sarai. Turn towards Katwaria 
Sarai.  Just after Bus stop (which will be on your 
left), you will see a board of Rockwell Hospital (on 
your right). Take a right turn towards Rockwell 
Hospital (where board points). On this road take turn 
on right, third building is International  Mangement 
Institute(IMI). Stop at gate and ask for SOC. 
 
3) If you are lost in way, just ask for Katwaria Sarai. 
On reaching Katwaria sarai look for Rockwell Hospital 
or IMI. 

4) If coming from Chirag Delhi towards IIT-D turn right from below the IIT-D 
flyover and continue till you find the board for Rockwell Hospital and turn
right. And see point 2.

5) If you enter from the front gate, just head straight down the
driveway, crossing the building on the right, till you come to the
canteen. take the one and only steps on your left, to go down to the
basement, and the first room facing you, is the room made available to
us. We are waiting for more inputs on how to reach the School of
Convergence. 
 
The meet is targeted especially for students and new Linux users. 
 
1. RPM package management for Fedora by Raj Shekhar
2. Shell Programming - II for newbies By Arjun Ashthana 
3. Samba for interoperating with Windows Network by Manpreet Singh Nehra
4. Special - Atul Asthana on how to push Linux Adoption in Government

 
Meet FAQ:- 
1. Who can attend the meet:- 
Anyone can attend the meet. 
 
2. Is there any fee for attending the meet:- 
No there is no fee just wave in and walk in. 
There is only a voluntary contribution towards Snacks/Tea/Cold-Drinks served 
during the meet.

-Tarun Dua
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[ilugd] Attention:!! Speakers for November meet.

2004-11-26 Thread Tarun Dua
Speakers for November meet please send me your presentations or you need to 
burn them on a CD and bring them along.
-Tarun

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[ilugd] Re: Ximian Mail formatting problem

2004-11-21 Thread Tarun Dua
ashutosh kaul wrote:

 Hello Friends,
 Whenever I send any mails from outlook to ximian and back. After 1-2 reply
 the setting of the mail gets disrupted i.e. formatting is lost. Any of you
 any idea and what could be the possible outcome.. then pls. do help me in
 this regard.
And what makes you assume its a Evolution's problem and not outlook's.
-Tarun


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[ilugd] Postponement of the November Meet and Call for Speakers

2004-11-16 Thread Tarun Dua
Hi All,

The November meet is postponed to 28th November since I couldn't confirm the
venue.
Theme:- 
No one has suggested a theme yet. Lets do away with themes. We would just
call it November ILUGD meet.

Call for speakers
ILUG-Dites,

This is a call for speakers to present their talk on 28th Nov, 2004

If you are interested in giving a talk please proclaim
it loudly on the main list and/or mail me off-list at
tarundua\at\linux-delhi\dot\org asap.

It would be helpful if you could also announce the intended audience for
your talk
e.g. 
1. Novice
2. Power User
3. Experts
4. Novice+Power User
5. Everyone
...

And specify the pre-requisite knowledge required.
e.g. 
1. Understanding of Point and Click interface
2. Basic understanding of using Computers 
...

Hurry, we have only three 40 minute slots for making presentations
Meet details shall be announced soon.

-Tarun 


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[ilugd] Re: [Commercial] Vacancies at Red Hat

2004-11-14 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Gmane provides a  link for each email it obfuscates. 
Ahem! /me beats a retreat!
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[ilugd] Re: [Commercial] Vacancies at Red Hat

2004-11-09 Thread Tarun Dua
Sankarshan Mukhopadhay wrote:
 Those interested may please send in the CV through e-mail to Sankarshan
 Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the
 Subject line carrying the position code as provided beside each position
Hi Sankarshan,
When we look at your e-mail ID from a gmane news interface we find something
like this. It should be posted in obfuscated but human readable form to
prevent it from being enrcrypted by GMANE.
sankar-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@ public.gmane.org
Sandeep, is it possible to turn it off. 

Its impossible to tell all the commercial posters who lurk around the list
to mention the e-mail in obfuscated human reabable form (for example tarun
at example dot com). And it is actually even more difficult to get the
powers that be to change mailing list instructions.
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[ilugd] Topic and Venue suggestions for 21st November 2004 ILUGD meet

2004-11-04 Thread Tarun Dua
Hi Everyone,

Time to start planning for the 21st November 3rd Sunday Monthly meeting.
Please make venue and topic suggestions.
Learning from last time experience 
1. We prefer to have a meet in an educational institution if possible.
2. Meet Coordinator (/me is the volunteer by default otherwise ideally a
meet coordinator is from the venue provider organization) needs to get in
touch with local host (pun intended) authorities for pre-publicity for the
event.

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[ilugd] Re: ... and someone said Redhat9 or Fedora Core is not production grade?

2004-11-01 Thread Tarun Dua
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Servers
 
 ;)
 
Its a simple matter to run a couple of hundred stable packages ( and upgrade
them to stability) . But its an altogethor different matter to run a stable
desktop. IMHO redhat 9 is eminently usable and production grade I can't say
the same about Fedora Core 1 and 2.
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[ilugd] Re: Getting system load and performance infomation

2004-10-27 Thread Tarun Dua
Vikram Mandal wrote:
 BTW, do you know what Load Averages 0.16 0.26 0.12  means? 
Represents load averages over the last 1, 5 and 15 minutes, respectively
 I mean what does it tells anyone about the system.
 I am sorry for such novice queries; I am very new to linux.
The load average is the ratio of amount of CPU processes want to access at a
given time with actual CPU processing power available. Therefore it should
be less than 1. 
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[ilugd] Minutes of Meeting Linux Delhi Oct Meet

2004-10-26 Thread Tarun Dua
The meeting started off with usual introductions with people reciting how
long they have been using linux(and less about who they are)

The first talk was Sudev Barar talking about his reason for using linux and
forcing a lot of others to use linux. The five (or was it six) main reasons
he gave for using linux and advocating it was 
1) Money
2) Money
3) Money
4) More Money
5) Even More Money
After that there was a long tea-break with or chai-break as the students
from School of Convergence put it.

Raj Shekhar arrived just in the nick of time before his talk and got his
surprise gift ( a Maharaja Tux T-Shirt ) .
Raj Shekhar delved at length on how to get help from man pages, info
documentation and other sources of help from the system
including /usr/share/doc

Finally Arjun talked about basic Unix Shell scripting using bash.

Then some of the members left for PVR Saket.
-Tarun


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[ilugd] Final Announcement ILUGD Monthly Meet Oct 2004

2004-10-21 Thread Tarun Dua
Monthly Meet -- Programming and Automation for newbies not programmers
Sun, Oct 24, 2004 - 02:00PM 

Venue: 
School Of Convergence @ International Management Institute 
B-10, Qutab Institutional Area, 
Tara Crescent, 
New Delhi - 110016

Agenda: 
Directions for reaching the venue: 
 
1) If Coming from IIT or Mehrauli side, Come upto 
Adhchini mod (x-ing) and turn towards Katwaria Sarai. 
Just after Bus stop (land mark - Indian Statistical 
Institute) you will see a board of Rockwell Hospital. 
Turn Left towards Rockwell Hospital (where board 
points). Take first turn on right, third building is 
International  Mangement Institute(IMI). Stop at gate 
and ask for SOC. 
 
2) If coming from Ber Sarai. Turn towards Katwaria 
Sarai.  Just after Bus stop (which will be on your 
left), you will see a board of Rockwell Hospital (on 
your right). Take a right turn towards Rockwell 
Hospital (where board points). On this road take turn 
on right, third building is International  Mangement 
Institute(IMI). Stop at gate and ask for SOC. 
 
3) If you are lost in way, just ask for Katwaria Sarai. 
On reaching Katwaria sarai look for Rockwell Hospital 
or IMI. 
 
4) If you enter from the front gate, just head straight down the
driveway, crossing the building on the right, till you come to the
canteen. take the one and only steps on your left, to go down to the
basement, and the first room facing you, is the room made available to
us. We are waiting for more inputs on how to reach the School of
Convergence. 
 
The meet is targeted especially for students and new Linux users. 
 
Programming and Automation for newbies not programmers 
 
1. Reasons to use Linux and Open Source by Sudev Barar 
2. Shell Programming for newbies By Arjun Ashthana 
3. Using help and discovering which commands to use by Raj Shekhar 
 
Meet FAQ:- 
1. Who can attend the meet:- 
Anyone can attend the meet. 
 
2. Is there any fee for attending the meet:- 
No there is no fee just wave in and walk in. 
There is only a voluntary contribution towards Snacks/Tea/Cold-Drinks
towards the end of meet 

-Tarun Dua
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[ilugd] Re: SoC venue confirmed

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Linux Lingam wrote:

[snip]
 speakers, demo-offering ppl, please get your laptops and desktop cpus.
 ohp available.
LL can you confirm the OHP is the LCD projector one can connect to a
computer/laptop and doesn't require printed transparencies.
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[ilugd] Re: Java Plugin

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Atul Aggarwal wrote:
 I have tried j2re-1_4_2_05-linux-i586.rpm
 and created a symbolic link
 /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 
 Can anyone please guide.
Try copying the appropriate plugin to $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
Start mozilla on the command line ( shell) and tell us if you see any
errors.
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[ilugd] Venue required for BOF meet Noida (Re: Venue for next ILUG meet, C-DAC Noida)

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Adi wrote:

 hi..i was just browsing through some discussions when
 i came across the one where someone asked for space
 for 50+ ppl for the next ILUG meet. I am a MCA
 student at C-DAC, Noida. We have recently started a
 linux club in our college.We had a newbie meet on
 12th October. We have even installed forums on our
 college LAN. C-DAC Noida can provide its seminar room
 (which can house upto 100-120 people) and can provide
 linux workstations.
 Please if you guys are interested..let us know..
 thanks
Hi Adi,

First let me thank you for your generous offer for an ILUGD meet.
A few of us in Noida have been trying to start regular informal meetings of
OSS/Linux Users Noida.
Infact we had a Birds of Feather Meet on Oct, 2nd 1st Saturday of this
Month.
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/event.cgi?action=showItemyear=2004month=10date=2
(URL may be wrapped)
The next Birds of Feather Meet is scheduled for the first weekend of
November-2004.
The Noida OSS/Linux birds can meet at the venue offered by you. 
Mail me offlist at tarundua at linux-delhi dot org if you can offer us the
venue for the same.

Thanks
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[ilugd] Organizing a meeting for a LUG (Was Re: Urgent help settting up a LUG)

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
vipul sharma wrote:

 hi everyone.i wanna set up  a LUG in my college.Many
 students hav agreed to be a part of this .I wanna know
 what other resources are needed setting up a LUG.We
 hav already talked to the teachers concerned and now i
 wanna know is tere any monetary requirements and
 all.How can we arrange people to head a meet if we
 plan it in future.Please help me .Its urgent.
Vipul,

I don't think money is required for the same.
No one needs to head a meet. Yes there needs to be one coordinator who
arranges for the Venue permission, Speakers and Meet Announcement Posters.

I volunteer to come over to your first meet and talk about How to setup and
manage a LUG + What is/should be the aim of a LUG and how to use Linux
Delhi's resources to promote your LUG

I don't forsee any monetary requirements for setting up of a LUG in a
college except for putting up a few printed posters on notice boards around
your campus. 

In the posters announcing the meet mention the theme, venue, speakers and
time of the meet on the posters and mail the same thing to all your friends
whom you want to attend.
To arrange speakers mail to the ILUGD mailing list asking for volunteers to
speak in good time before the final announcement containing all these
details. While asking for speakers make sure you mention the timing and
date and venue for the meet.
Infact there is a good howto written by Ashwin ( he prefers to be called
Ashlin) on organizing a LUG meeting targeted towards newbies at 
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/download.cgi?action=fileDownloaddId=23

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[ilugd] Re: SoC venue confirmed

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Tarun Dua wrote:

 Sudev Barar wrote:
 Count me in tell me what I should organise. This countermands the
 previous post where I said am not available.
 Sudev, I would be great if you are bringing along your laptop.

s/I/it/

 I'll mail you any presentations from speakers I get before 5:00 pm Friday
 the 22nd, Oct.
Sudev,
Do you have reliance/mobile internet connectivity working with your laptop. 
Also you have the ILUGD Maharaja Penguin banner.
Will remind you things before the meet.
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[ilugd] Re: Linux Clusters

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Gurpreet Sachdeva wrote:

I need to process one script that needs high processing power. I
was thinking if Linux Clusters/Distributed Computing can help me in
achieving that. Any inputs/pointers in that will be highly
appreciated...
Locate Beowulf Howto or Parallel Computing Howto and get going. And use
Google.
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[ilugd] Re: Venue required for BOF meet Noida (Re: Venue for next ILUG meet, C-DAC Noida)

2004-10-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Hmm, why not an ILUGD meet at the venue?  Or do you feel that a
 120-seater auditorium would be too small for that?  Should fit the BoF
 meet then :)
This month's ILUGD meet's venue has been promised by LL last month. The
november venue was what we heard from Manpreet as being Jamia Hamdard. 
However at the meet one Oct 24th we can do a straw poll on venue for
November meet assuming 120 seater is available then. 
In the meanwhile the Noida Birds of Feather were still looking for a venue
so decided to make a pitch. Not that the ILUGDites are un-welcome to the
Noida BoF meet. By all means convert it into a regular ILUGD meet. In any
case whats in a name ? and we can have two ILUGD meets in a month can't we,
NCR is big enough the more the merrier.
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[ilugd] Oct 24th Meet at School of Convergence and Call for speakers

2004-10-17 Thread Tarun Dua
Venue: School of Convergence, qutub instt area. 

Target Audience:
The meet is targeted especially for students and new Linux users.

Directions for reaching the venue:-
As soon we get them

Programming and Automation for newbies not programmers

1. Shell Programming for newbies By Arjun Ashthana
Other Suggested Topics
2. Automating KDE applications using kdcop interface.

3. Using help and discovering new commands using the system help.

4. Any other topic of your choice that gels with the theme of the meet.

If you are interested in giving a talk please proclaim it loudly on the main
list and/or mail me off-list at tarundua\at\linux-delhi\dot\org asap.

It would be helpful if you could also announce the intended audience for
your talk e.g. 

1. Novice
2. Power User
3. Experts
4. Novice+Power User
5. Everyone
...

And specify the pre-requisite knowledge required.
e.g. 

1. Understanding of Point and Click interface
2. Basic understanding of using Computers
...

Hurry, we have only two 40 minute slots for making presentations.
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[ilugd] Re: SoC venue confirmed

2004-10-17 Thread Tarun Dua
Sudev Barar wrote:
 Count me in tell me what I should organise. This countermands the
 previous post where I said am not available.
Sudev, I would be great if you are bringing along your laptop.
I'll mail you any presentations from speakers I get before 5:00 pm Friday
the 22nd, Oct.
Thanks
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Fwd: Need help in setting up LUG

2004-10-15 Thread Tarun Dua
vipul sharma wrote:

 hi everyone.
 i wanted to set up a lug at my college in jamia millia
 islamia.all the students have agreed to actively
 participate in it.but now i wanna know how can i hav
 someone to give the workshop .please guide me to
 various procedures to go through.thank u.
Vipul,
Since the venue for the oct meet of ilugd is not yet decided if you can
arrange for a lecture hall with a capacity of 50+ and a Linux Desktop
computer(with Openoffice installed)+slide projector we can host the meet at
Jamia itself and help kickstart the LUG.
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[ilugd] Re: [RANT Maybe OT] Wired - weird India

2004-10-13 Thread Tarun Dua
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 I propose setting up a Linux unfriendly products/services website, where
 we maintain a hall of shame for Indian vendors/companies who discriminate
 against consumers choice. We mention here both hardware and websites of
 companies which force consumers to use proprietary technologies, or
 otherwise perpetuate vendor lock in.
I am all for it. A section in http://lug-delhi.org would be great.
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[ilugd] Re: how to update mandrake 10

2004-10-12 Thread Tarun Dua
santosh dubey wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 from where i can upgrade mandrake 10 online.
 everywhere i see there club relaed info.
To update mandrake 10 online you need to setup the urpmi update media
correctly. 
Ok just follow the instructions here on this site
http://easyurpmi.zarb.org
After that everything is a breeze.
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[ilugd] Re: Fwd: Need help in setting up LUG

2004-10-12 Thread Tarun Dua
 Message from vipul sharma:
 i am a student of faculty of engineering and technology ,jamia millia
 islamia.we r interesred in having a club of ours in the college on
 linux.please help us with it.

Hi Vipul,
Its simple and easy to setup a JMI-LUG.
Use the Linux-Delhi.org features to announce your meeting and send a howler
on the ilugd mailing list inviting the ILUGDites for a feast and see them
streaming in. Similarly call up/email all your interested friends a few
days before you plan a meet. Read up on this excellent howto 
http://www.talug.org/howto/usergroup-howto/User-Group-HOWTO.html
Quote
The Linux User Group HOWTO is a guide to founding, maintaining, and growing
a Linux user group, co-authored by Kendall Clark and Rick Moen (now
maintained by Rick Moen). 
/Quote
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[ilugd] Call for Speakers Monthly Meet 24th October 2004

2004-10-12 Thread Tarun Dua
Hi All,

The monthly meet is scheduled for 24th Sunday this month.

The venue is being arranged by Linuxlingam yet to get his confirmation ( so
you know whom to blame if we postpone the meet at the last moment ). 

The meet is targeted especially for students and new Linux users.

The Topic of the meet is then .. on suggestion from Raj Shekhar who gets a
surprise gift at the meet.

Programming and Automation for newbies not programmers
Some of the talk suggestions
1. Using Shell for newbies.( not really shell programming but how to make a
newbie feel at home in a shell )
2. Automating KDE applications using kdcop interface.
3. Using help and discovering new commands using the system help.
4. Any other topic of your choice that gels with the theme of the meet.

If you are interested in giving a talk please proclaim
it loudly on the main list and/or mail me off-list at
tarundua\at\linux-delhi\dot\org asap.

It would be helpful if you could also announce the intended audience for
your talk
e.g. 
1. Novice
2. Power User
3. Experts
4. Novice+Power User
5. Everyone
...

And specify the pre-requisite knowledge required.
e.g. 
1. Understanding of Point and Click interface
2. Basic understanding of using Computers
...

Hurry, we have only three 40 minute slots for making presentations.
Meet details shall be announced soon.

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[ilugd] Re: [RANT Maybe OT] Wired - weird India

2004-10-12 Thread Tarun Dua
Sudev Barar wrote:

 While we emerge as world hub for IT our own IT enabled companies are
 busy running after closed standards being dished out by M$!!
 www.icicidirect.com has moved its web interface to be solely used
 through M$-I.Explorer ONLY!!!
 Bugger be the customer who wants to use FLOSS options. Buy M$-OS and be
 happy else commerce is denied to you!!
From another mailing list.This link was mentioned as solution.
https://secure.icicidirect.com/customer/logon.asp?next=tradehome
HTH
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[ilugd] Re: [RANT Maybe OT] Wired - weird India

2004-10-12 Thread Tarun Dua
Manpreet Singh Nehra wrote:

 Well then let them do it get your account elsewhere, I stopped using
 there icicibank.com after I figured the site was not totally FLOSS
 compatible and would generate random errors. This is an era of
 consumers, if they think they are gonna get away with this well let them
 do so you can pick one of the hundreds of other options available. Its
 thre loss and not yours.
I guess thats the idea behind all this ranting. If one has to be a minority
be a vocal and influential minority. 
Shout to the press that ICICI's infotech arm did a lousy job. 
ICICI is a lousy bank. Post it to the blogosphere if you can't get
traditional media ( creeps!! most of the traditional media sites in India
seem to be having similar crappy setups). Spread the word around.
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[ilugd] Pics from Themeless and SpeakerLess meet in July 2004

2004-10-04 Thread Tarun Dua
http://www.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/anCMS/pictures.cgi?action=picturespdId=13
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[ilugd] Re: Lan Chat Configuration

2004-10-04 Thread Tarun Dua
Linuxrock wrote:
 Hye all,
I want to use gaim for our Lan chat as we do in a Lan Chat software in
windows, Any Suggestions...
Install unrealircd server and use IRC clients.
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[ilugd] Re: Pics from Themeless and SpeakerLess meet in July 2004

2004-10-04 Thread Tarun Dua
makuchaku wrote:


 Which was this event?
 makuchaku
The official Linux Delhi July meet didn't have any speakers or a theme.
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Re: ILUGD Monthly meeting October 2004 !!! win surprise gift suggest theme, venue

2004-10-04 Thread Tarun Dua
Manpreet Singh Nehra wrote:

 Topic Suggestion:
 1 ) My exprience with Linux - How, When, Why, Who got the person into
 Linux (This is for all newbies and old guys, this can be a recurring
 talk everytime someone new speaking of all the ILUG members) and
 important question to be answered - Why I didn't move back to Windows?
What do others on the list have to say about this?
 2 ) A Techincal Talk
 3 ) Discussion on any topic under the sky (sky =Linux)
I would say with a theme we want to have all talks on the same theme.
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[ilugd] [Fwd: [lb/2004] Official Call for Papers]

2004-10-04 Thread Tarun Dua
-Forwarded Message-
From: Atul Chitnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux Bangalore/2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [lb/2004] Official Call for Papers
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:01:13 +0530



The official Call for Papers is now up on the site.

http://linux-bangalore.org/2004/talks/

Go, read, understand.

You will be able to start registering as speakers by tomorrow.

You can register as many paper abstracts as you wish, but remember that
each of them will be evaluated, *then* you will be asked to submit the 
full paper, *then* the final selection takes place.

Warning: it is compulsory to include a photograph of yourself with your 
speaker reg, so you might as well get one ready *now* - jpg, 100K max. Get 
a decent one ready - if your talk is selected, this is the one that will 
be published, but we will reserve the right to reject a talk solely on the 
basis of someone uploading a picture of his/her pet cat instead of his/her 
own! (Warning, we are *not* kidding here!)

If you dont have a digital pic ready, get one now. Most photographer shops 
will give you one in a few minutes for 50 bucks or less. or have a friend 
take one of you. Or use your webcam.

Just remember - the impression you will make with your picture will carry 
across to you talk. 

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[ilugd] Re: Re: ILUGD Monthly meeting October 2004 !!! win surprise gift suggest theme, venue

2004-10-01 Thread Tarun Dua
Linux Lingam wrote:
 yaar did ya get my earlier email? anyways, tell me the number of
 people, 
45-50
 timings, 
2:00 PM to 6:30 PM, 
 and i will try to arrange a venue, tell me the date.  
24th October, 2004
 i hope the venue is near pvr saket and pvr priya, ;-)
 LL
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[ilugd] [MEETUP] Birds of Feather Meet at Noida 2nd October 6:00 PM Saturday

2004-10-01 Thread Tarun Dua
Venue: Near or at Barista in Centerstage Mall (Where Waves Cinema is)

Contact: Tarun Dua
 +91 9891878739

About: Birds of Feather Meet is about a group of people who like to share a
cup of coffee( or tea or lassi or beer as the case maybe) and discuss
GNU/Linux or Linux/Programming/Open Source or Free Software/Technology
apart from watching other birds. The Birds of Feather meet shouldn't be
confused with the official Linux Delhi monthly meeting.

Expected Attendees:

1. Satyakaam
2. Shehjar
3. Raj Shekhar
4. Nirendra Awasthi
5. Yours truly

 
When: Saturday, 6:00 pm IST, 2nd October, 2004

Who can attend: Anyone can attend the meet. Just wave to the noisiest group
at the venue and join in the fun.

-Tarun
PS: The Date/Time can be changed if the expected attendees so insist.
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[ilugd] Re: ILUGD Monthly meeting October 2004 !!! win surprise gift suggest theme, venue

2004-09-29 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Shekhar wrote:
  programming/development under Linux 
 
 As always, feel free to fill up my idea with bullets of criticism ;-)
Hi Raj,

I personally quite like your suggestion and I am even half inclined to
propose merging the meet this time with ILUGD developers meet at Sarai.
That way we get a chance to crowd out the developers for once.
What does Mary say to this. And let this be targeted towards
newbies/students again not to lose the momentum built after LDD2K4.
However let not my opinion not the decision making process of the list.
Guys anymore suggestions for the theme speak out now or the call for
speakers shall be made for the current theme.

Thanks
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[ilugd] Re: Let a 1000 LUGS bloom all across NCR [blug-non-tech] So what would you like to do?

2004-09-27 Thread Tarun Dua
 Exactly my thoughts!! Evidently LDD 2K4 shows us
 that even ILUGD is a
 big bad impersonal LUG with moves afoot for formal
 societification and
 attendant bureaucracy.
Shehjar Tikoo wrote:
 Had a bad day at work or what?
No just experimenting with proof by contradiction. 
Actually as Sandeep pointed out ILUGD is nowwhere a impersonal LUG as of
today.
 Sure, I would suggest that we have associate LUGS(
 associated to main LUG.), in satellite towns and
 suburbs, and let these smaller groups do their own
 thing, at their own pace and also have them attend the
 bigger LUG's meets to stay abreast of the larger
 picture in the region.
 The idea might seem vague as of now, but someone could
 refine it probably.
All I am suggesting is that Linux users can organize simple
movie+lunch/dinner type birds of feather meets ( where incidently linux and
technology can also be discussed )
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[ilugd] Re: Unusually high search bot activity from MSN ...

2004-09-23 Thread Tarun Dua
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:

 Has any body else been experiencing this?
 
  From my web log stats, lug-delhi.org is facing an unusually high and
 disproportionate hits from the MSN bot this month.
 
 While there have been 1249 hits (24.07%) from MSN, Googlebot is at a
 distant third at 238 hits (4.59%). What gives?
me too!!
Geez. looks like they are so much interested in Linux and Opensource.
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[ilugd] [Fwd: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved]

2004-09-21 Thread Tarun Dua
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From: Atul Chitnis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Linux Bangalore/2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [lb/2004] Getting the LUGs involved
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:43:55 +0530

All:

OK, this is a dificult subject, so please forgive me if I don't quite get 
this right on the first attempt:

That Linux Bangalore has now become India's largest technical conference, 
and may even be one the largest in Asia, is now a fairly established fact 
(numbers, my friends, numbers).

What many people fail to realise, however, is that LB is not supposed to 
be a technical conference alone - it is supposed to be (and in fact is) a 
community event - created by and for the community and driven by it.

Over the years, we have been trying to get Linux and FOSS user groups from 
across India to use the event to draw attention to themselves. Given the 
huge national and international audiences who converge at this event, this 
makes a lot of sense.

Now I can understand it if larger LUGs don't feel that they need this kind 
of exposure, since they are well established in their own rights. Not that 
we wouldn't love having them participate - it is just that they seem to 
feel that they don't need to. This probably explains why the Mumbai and 
Delhi LUGs are so poorly represented every year at the event (though there 
is no shortage of *speakers* from these places!).

But our focus isn't really on the big LUGs - not even on the Bangalore
Linux User Group (which, as we all know, is probably the single largest in
India) or the Chennai LUG (the oldest and best established LUG in the
country).

We would like the smaller LUGs, such as Belgaum, Goa, Coimbatore,
Trivandrum, Bijapur, Vizag, Pune, Nagpur, Mysore, {insert comprehensive
list of LUGs here} etc. etc. to be seen and highlighted.

This is made clear every year when Linux Bangalore is inaugurated not by 
some big name in a tie, but by representatives from the various LUGs who 
are attending the event. This is no gimmick - we have done this for three 
years in succession, and will continue to do this even if $deity is a 
chief guest at the event (in which case s/he will be *one* of the people 
inaugurating the event).

So why this long note?

Because we need your help.

It is physically impossible for us to reach all the LUGs in India, but 
using the network effect (you know a couple, and can contact them, they 
know a couple each, and each contact them, and so on), it is possible to 
reach a lot of people and let them know about *their* event!

It is a no-brainer getting technical people to attend, but that isn't the 
sole reason for LB's existance. This is about the community as well.

As LB, we can offer LUGs some space at the expo, to tell people about 
themselves and their activities (even if it is just some poster space, or 
handouts), halls where they can meet with ther LUGs to discuss how they 
can improve their memberships, activities, etc. and a chance to meet with 
like-minded people.

These facilities have always been available to LUGs, and will be available 
this year as well. All it needs is some prior planning.

What I'd like to do now is to have a discussion (and please, let's keep 
the politics out of it) about how we can get the word out to the LUGs, 
what is it that would keep them away, what would make them come, etc.

Over to you.

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[ilugd] Re: Linux Office: Which Linux Flavour for Users

2004-09-09 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Amit == Amit Sharma
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Amit [snip]
 
 Amit please help me decide, should i go for Xandros?
 
 No,  You want your business to continue working even if Xandros dies
 tomorrow.  Go for a community-supported distribution like Debian or
 Fedora.
Mandrake 10 Community Edition is also a viable option.
It is well supported by the community as the name suggests. 
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[ilugd] Re: Tracking sender of email - from which city the mail came

2004-09-08 Thread Tarun Dua
Manoj Kr. Gupta wrote:
 They provide with ip address of the machine from where the message was
 transmitted to their server. Just do a whois on that ip and it will
 give u a fair idea of from where the mail originated.
Please don't bother the whois registry for every single mail you get.
Its a real bad idea. IP whois information is better used only for abuse.
Automation even there is not a good idea. 
Even the Abuse Deskers would maintain their list of Abuse best contacts and
cache the results from whois when they need them. Perhaps Suresh is the
right person to say more on this.
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[ilugd] Re: Red Hat Installation ISO images

2004-09-06 Thread Tarun Dua
Parveen  Verma, Noida wrote:
 Can u explain me what are the factors that determines the size and
 packages included in an ISO image made for installation.
Factors like dependencies of packages with one another.
 I have seen that the installation image is not of ~700MB size.
 
 eg. There are four RHEL 3 update 2 CD's which could be in 3 CD's (size
 wise).
 
 And secondly you have to change the CD during installation. like first put
 cd 1 then cd 2 then cd 3 then again cd 1 then cd 4 again cd 1.
 
 Why it does not install all the packages from Cd 1 first and the from
 2,3,4.
You might have a better luck with Redhat Support for these questions, they
decided to do it. We didn't.
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[ilugd] Re: Upgrading apache

2004-09-06 Thread Tarun Dua
Abhishek Jain wrote:
 Can somebody indicate on possible reason's of these Segmentation
 Faults? is there a problem with mod_jrun20.so?
Did you remove the previous version of apache.?
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[ilugd] Mailing list etiquette (Was Re: Re: [LIH]Indiatimes listed in RBLs again ...)

2004-09-06 Thread Tarun Dua
Gaurav Vaish wrote:

 Done everything except for #1. Will do so on the next working day.
 Today is Sunday!
Gaurav,
Do bother to follow bottom posting( search google for bottom posting) on
this list and snip out irrelevant content ( except for the content)
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[ilugd] Re: Shell Script:Help Required.

2004-09-01 Thread Tarun Dua
 amitflu wrote:
 I need to use the name of the Standard output
 file provided by the user in a shell script.
 for example:-
 ./myscript.sh  amit.txt
 so I need to use amit.txt somewhere into my
 shell scipt.
 So please tell me how can i fetch it.
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 You cant. there is no concept of stand output *file*. There is just
 standard output. If you want to write to the file, dont use redirection -
 pass the file name as a parameter to the script, and write to it.
I think this is what the Original Poster is looking for
http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/x12375.html
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Shell Script:Help Required.

2004-09-01 Thread Tarun Dua
amitflu wrote:
 No the page you sent just manipulates with the
 data that is written into that standard output
 file but I actually need the name of the file.
You don't seem to have read or understood the page.
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[ilugd] Re: Is it possible to create an email account on sendmail not readable by root/SA ??

2004-08-20 Thread Tarun Dua
Sudev Barar wrote:

 On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 10:29, anil bindal wrote:
 One could examine possibility of running sendmail under the UID of CEO
 rather than root or whatever it runs. Then CEO should run it and also
 should be member of all users group to be able to deliver. Just a
 thought of a possibility.
GPG as Raj suggested is the only feasible solution.
And remember against major governments even this is no protection.
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[ilugd] Re: Diskless PC's that connect to Linux Server

2004-08-18 Thread Tarun Dua
Kapil Sethi wrote:

 Well, by this discussion you just brushed up my rusty
 brain. Thanks for that.
 
 I think the best solution would be by using.
 
 1. Windows server
 2. Linux Terminal server with diskless clients.
 3. Citrix Client for Linux for accessing Windows
 from the Linux desktop.
Any problems in using rdesktop to access a windows server.
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[ilugd] Re: tentative agenda for 17th Aug meet

2004-08-17 Thread Tarun Dua
On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 11:31, Raj Shekhar wrote:
 In the meet scheduled to be held at Raj Mathur's place today, we need to 
 decide on the following topics (arranged according to the priority, 
 highest priority item being on the top).
If the date of 26th is final. Rahul Chopra(read EFY) may be able to get
us the venue at Phd chamber of commerce. Keep Sarai as a backup venue.
 Note: This is what my impression of things is. If I am wrong, please 
 post a reply and let others know.
See above
 - Venue and date (Mary has confirmed that sarai will be available on the 
 4th Sun of Sept.)
 - What talks (speakers who have confirmed their participation till date 
 and those who have to be persuaded)
May all talks be oriented towards new users(read NON-Gurus)
 - What demos (do we need it ? Or is it to be mixed with the talks)
Yes. And it would be nice if we do some amount of troubleshooting free for people 
chiming in.

 - Installfest (volunteers, hardware, do we give out any manuals/printouts)
 - Design/content of flyers and posters
Mary had volunteered on IRC to arrange the audio video recording of the
event(I suppose we call it LI2004). Is he dropping by(I know Raj's place
is far).
Lastly I am not coming in today for reasons stated earlier onlist.
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[ilugd] Re: [Important] meeting to discuss linux-india 2004 plans

2004-08-14 Thread Tarun Dua
vivek khurana wrote:
 Once again 14th august, 5:30 pm onwards at IHC.
Having a real bad day today won't be able to make it to the meeting.
Waiting for the updates.
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[ilugd] Re: [linux-india] Getting participants

2004-08-11 Thread Tarun Dua
Linux Lingam wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:34:00 +0530, Raj Shekhar
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 In the brainstorming session of the meeting at IHC, we decided on the
 following ideas.
 [snip]
 
 - Organize chain phone calling telling people about the event
 
 
 
 argh! you mean like HDFC and ICICI bank, calling you up during your
 afternoon siesta.
 or like atal biharvi vajpayee calling rah mathur 'namaskar! mein atal
 bihari vajpayee bol rahaan hoon...
 
 bad idea for chain phone calling people. too intrusive.
Call people whom we know. Invite them as if it was your birthday
or forget about the audience we want to get. Thats what I did for the IHC
meeting.
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Minutes of the linux india planning meeting

2004-08-10 Thread Tarun Dua
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Tarun We also talked about ILUGD societification, where I offered
 Tarun to get it done by month end for a consideration of 5K ( if
 Tarun anyone has a cheaper offer please come forward ) and the
 Tarun treasurer needs to give us a go ahead for the same.
 Uh, are you sure you can get it done by month end?  You need all sorts
 of documents and signatures, not to forget the articles of
 association.
 BTW, who gets the 5K?
The CA firm who does this for us.
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[ilugd] Re: Re: Minutes of the linux india planning meeting

2004-08-10 Thread Tarun Dua
Mr tirveni yadav wrote:

 Linux-India Installation  Support
 (dated- 12th September 2004)
 
 Provide installation demos to people.
 Points Suggested at IHC on 8th August:
 
 A)To install on newbees’ Systems, they can purchase a
 distribution before/after we install on their
 boxes(which they can bring along)
 B)Req-Powerpoints ,   7 – 8 Sys (with CD Writers)
We need a CDROM drive or two apart from distro CDs and Power points and
volunteers we wouldn't need CD writers ? right Mr Tiveni ;-)
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