Re: [efloraofindia:89657] When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Thanks to all for these lessons. these will motivate me, inspire me in my future to learn the Botany.. Wishing you all ..a Diwali.
Re: [efloraofindia:89658] 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
Thank you Dinesh Ji, What devotion to the group. Wish you and your family All the best. On this day, today, I pledge to myself, I will try to be a little more alert, a little more patient, a little more careful in my replies and presentations, a little more tolerant to the views of others. In all the stressful work atmosphere, I will try to be a little more relaxed. I will try to spend a little more time with my family and with my friends, both in the place where I am and my virtual friends. I hope to make my surroundings a little more friendly, I will try to make my communications a little more appealing. There are some strange situations in which I have been and found it strange that some people are not what they seem to be and stranger yet that the qualities they strive so hard to hide are most often, more appealing than the ones they strive to show the world at large. Regards, Happy Diwali to all my friends. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may Viewhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0OR Downloadhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0d=1high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh
Re: [efloraofindia:89659] 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
great thinking sir Deepawli k avsar par apko or apke parivar ko hardik subh kamnae. Happy Deepawli to all. -- Amit Kumar *Research Scholar Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India P.O. Box # 18, Chandrabani Dehradun - 248 001. India Mob.-9410592063*
Re: [efloraofindia:89661] Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
Great Photograph Prasad ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:43 AM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all sharing the image of *Drosera burmanii* which i have collected from Karlapat wildlife sanctuary Place of collection: Karlapat Wildlife Sanctuary, Kalahandi, Orissa Altitude: 3000 ft above msl. Regards Prasad -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
[efloraofindia:89662] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on learning no matter whosoever is the mentor, I usually say a nearly illiterate mechanic knows so much about the machines, why he cannot be our teacher on the matter. Every person has his share of knowledge, we should always appreciate and acknowledge WISHING YOU AND THE ENTIRE GROUP A CHARMING AND FASCINATING DEEPAWALI. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org sahanipan...@gmail.com pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 9436 6251 (mobile) -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org sahanipan...@gmail.com pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 9436 6251 (mobile)
[efloraofindia:89665] Re: Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
Thnaks for sharing such nice photo and plant
[efloraofindia:89665] Re: Flora of Haryana: Justicia brandegeana from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
interestin red... brick like... usha di = On Oct 25, 8:51 am, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Justicia brandegeana from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar pls validate Thanks -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 Justicia brandegeana (1).JPG 175KViewDownload Justicia brandegeana (2).JPG 160KViewDownload Justicia brandegeana (3).JPG 116KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:89666] The genus Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) in the northern and parts of central Western Ghats
I was trying to send the pdf but unfortunately, because of its larger size the paper didnt get uploaded. Please try download an interesting work by Jyosna and Janarthanam Sir (Department of Botany, Goa University, Goa) on The genus Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) in the northern and parts of central Western Ghats Thanks to Rheedea, Jyosna and Janarthanam sir for this wonderful work. Link for the article http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea21_23-80.pdf Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 11:54, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to share another interesting and nicely done work. Thanks to Rheedea Jyosna and Janarthanam sir. Regards Giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
Re: [efloraofindia:89667] Happy and Prosperous Diwali with Rosa webbiana from Lahual Valley Himachal
Happy Diwali Pravir ji Do you have any close ups of Leaves and calyx, or fruit?. R. macrophylla looks much similar. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: *Dear members wish you all **Happy and Prosperous Diwali** * * * * * *Rosa webbiana* Recorded from lahul Valley Himachal Prades Elevation: 3000 m * * *Best Regards* -- Pravir Deshmukh
Re: [efloraofindia:89669] 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
Happy to Diwali to you, Dinesh ji all other members of efi family. It's nice way to keep records of members. May be someday it will be a great piece of archive. On 25 October 2011 00:23, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may Viewhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0OR Downloadhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0d=1high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1725 members 85,000 messages on 30/9/11) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of around 5500 species). Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata Common Birds of India'.
Re: [efloraofindia:89670] Happy and Prosperous Diwali with Rosa webbiana from Lahual Valley Himachal
Thanks Gurcharan Sir I didn't have the photos of leaves and calyx or fruit. -- Pravir Deshmukh 09717611977
Re: [efloraofindia:89671] Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
Many thanks for appreciation Sir Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Great Photograph Prasad ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:43 AM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all sharing the image of *Drosera burmanii* which i have collected from Karlapat wildlife sanctuary Place of collection: Karlapat Wildlife Sanctuary, Kalahandi, Orissa Altitude: 3000 ft above msl. Regards Prasad -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89672] Re: Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
Many thanks Pravirji Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: Thnaks for sharing such nice photo and plant -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89673] 25102011MC01
Thanks. The photo matches T. ricasoliana on the web. I found that the plantlist.org has this as Pandorea ricasoliana. Cheers, Mohan On 25 October 2011 10:57, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: * * *This is * *Tecoma ricasoliana * On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Subramaniam ji, Many thanks for the quick ID help. Regards, Mohan On 25 October 2011 10:33, Bala Subramaniam balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it seems to be Thunbergia grandiflora. B. Subramaniam On 10/25/11, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Help needed in identifying this climber with pretty flowers. Is it a Thunbergia? Thanks. Happy Diwali to all friends. Cheers, Mohan Place: Yercaud Date: 2/08/2011 Altitude: 1500 metres Habitat: cultivated Habit: climber Approximate size/height: 8 metres Leaf size: 12 cm, Compound leaf Flower Diameter: 5 cm Length of Flower: 7 cm Flower Colour: Mauve
[efloraofindia:89674] Re: Flora of Chakrata Part-2: Daphne papyracea from Deovan trek Chakrata
I've used the inner bark of this to make paper for my lampshades as they do in Nepal where it is called 'Lokta' paper... regards Alok On Oct 25, 10:47 am, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: not a botanist by any means, cant validate a botanist's diagnosis, which you have done already.. I just wanted to say that the detailed pictures are a good example of what to photograph Usha di On Oct 25, 5:56 am, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Daphne papyracea from Deovan trek Chakrata pls validate Thanks -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 Daphne papyracea (1).JPG 124KViewDownload Daphne papyracea (2).JPG 213KViewDownload Daphne papyracea (3).JPG 139KViewDownload Daphne papyracea (4).JPG 114KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:89675] 25102011MC01
Yes Mohan ji Tecoma ricasoliana is now correctly known as *Podranea* *ricasoliana* (Tanfani) Sprague http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?29143 Once a plant is correctly identified accepted name can always be found. Thanks for checking it out. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. The photo matches T. ricasoliana on the web. I found that the plantlist.org has this as Pandorea ricasoliana. Cheers, Mohan On 25 October 2011 10:57, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: * * *This is * *Tecoma ricasoliana * On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Subramaniam ji, Many thanks for the quick ID help. Regards, Mohan On 25 October 2011 10:33, Bala Subramaniam balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it seems to be Thunbergia grandiflora. B. Subramaniam On 10/25/11, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Help needed in identifying this climber with pretty flowers. Is it a Thunbergia? Thanks. Happy Diwali to all friends. Cheers, Mohan Place: Yercaud Date: 2/08/2011 Altitude: 1500 metres Habitat: cultivated Habit: climber Approximate size/height: 8 metres Leaf size: 12 cm, Compound leaf Flower Diameter: 5 cm Length of Flower: 7 cm Flower Colour: Mauve
Re: [efloraofindia:89676] When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Thanks, Pankaj ji, for summerising the spirit of efi in a nice way. Wishing you all members of efi a great happy Diwali. On 24 October 2011 17:14, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: This is very much away from the topic but you all may like to learn the lesson which I learnt that day. Long back during my school days, frankly speaking I was too poor in maths and physics. I dont hesitate to say that I still am. I was being taught Newtons Laws of Gravity and one very interesting thing that ACCELERATION DUE TO GRAVITY IS INDEPENDENT OF MASS. We used to live in a two storeyed building. I (in 11th standard) was standing on the roof and had a young kid from neighborhood was there. He might be in 2nd or 3rd standard. Just to impress him I took one small pebble and a small wood in my hand. And leaned over the railing and asked the kid, which will reach the ground first. He said. pebble. I said, what if do a magic and make them reach at the same time. He said, thats impossible. I said, I can show you. He said, you should first put a bet for a chocolate. I said, ok. So just as I was about to drop it, he said, bhaiya, wo hawa me ud jayega samjha karo (literally meaning, wood will get blown in air, you should understand that). But by the time I realised the mistake, I had already lost the bet. So whats the moral of the story? WE SHOULD NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE CAPABILITIES OF OTHERS. This group has people from different parts of India and abroad with different professional backgrounds and different culture and way of living too. We are here to learn from each other and gain more knowledge and more expertise on Indian plants. This is a source of knowledge which all of us are seeking and nothing else. But gradually this group has become like an institution and even like a family. More than 95% of the people dont know each other personally but yet they are connected, trying to help each other selflessly. I always tell my students that a botanist is not the one who studies botany, but the one who loves plant and a taxonomist is not the one who reads books of taxonomy. A taxonomist is the one who knows how to differentiate things. A kid, the first word he says, MUMMY makes him of her a taxonomist (not plant taxonomist though) because due to some physical characteristics he is able to differentiate mom and dad and then he or she gradually starts recognising more and more people around, hence he deserves to be called a taxonomist. We should always respect this selfless group who adores every one and wants to spread its knowledge to everyone too. Every person's understanding of plants is different, but its all science and we all are learning that part of science.called plant science (botany) as well as the mode of communication which comes as a bonus. With this bonus in mind, I wish you all a very Happy Dhanteras and a very Happy and Prosperous Deepawali. Long live eflora!!! Long live our institution!!! Of course, LONG LIVE PLANTS!!! Regards Pankaj -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org sahanipan...@gmail.com pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 9436 6251 (mobile) -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1725 members 85,000 messages on 30/9/11) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of around 5500 species). Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata Common Birds of India'.
Re: [efloraofindia:89678] 25102011MC01
Sorry, Podranea ricasoliana Cheers, Mohan On 25 October 2011 10:57, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: * * *This is * *Tecoma ricasoliana * On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Subramaniam ji, Many thanks for the quick ID help. Regards, Mohan On 25 October 2011 10:33, Bala Subramaniam balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it seems to be Thunbergia grandiflora. B. Subramaniam On 10/25/11, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Help needed in identifying this climber with pretty flowers. Is it a Thunbergia? Thanks. Happy Diwali to all friends. Cheers, Mohan Place: Yercaud Date: 2/08/2011 Altitude: 1500 metres Habitat: cultivated Habit: climber Approximate size/height: 8 metres Leaf size: 12 cm, Compound leaf Flower Diameter: 5 cm Length of Flower: 7 cm Flower Colour: Mauve
[efloraofindia:89679] Re: 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
May you too enjoy the blessings and happiness of the light of knowledge... and a truly heart felt gesture in making the card A happy Diwali to all friends in eFI and may we all be blessed to enjoy the beauty and light of this nature surrounding us.. warm wishes Alok Mahendroo Dinesh Valke wrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may Viewhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0OR Downloadhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0d=1high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh
Re: [efloraofindia:89681] Re: Flora of Haryana: Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Thanks a lot Sir Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Really nice ones Prasad ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:33 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Balkar sir i think i learn from this group and especially from you how to take photograph of different parts of a plant in different angles. So thanks to the group for giving me an opportunity to learn. These are mine from Orissa Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji wonderful... to see the ULAT Palat... the downfacing flowers when pollinated, signal a cell elongation factor etc to perform this acrobatic feat.. I just love these exercises that can be seen so quickly in a plant.. Usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Fruits of the same Plant On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All: I thought so sometimes these gardens label stuff wrong I had done a lot of reading before I labelled my pictures... and thanks for confirming... the name... usha di == On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Sir you are right Name is also incorrect on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Devil's%20Cotton.htmlhttp://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Devil%27s%20Cotton.html On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Ushadi There is no published name Abroma robusta, the label must be an error Balkar ji the correct spellings are A. augusta (L.) L.f. and not A. angusta -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.comwrote: I think Abroma angusta only. also called as Devil's Cotton On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji: Very nice... good to see so many photos of the flowers... quite rare... question: is it Abroma angusta or robusta? as your label shows... also I dont think its aNgusta ... it may be aUgusta... I may be wrong... pleas check... Now I guess you'll have to go back and photograph the pollinated seedpods that do the ULAT palat. my pictures of that Ulat palat are at: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/47056d7cc4ad71cb/373ef049f0271a6d?lnk=gstq=abroma+usha+di#373ef049f0271a6d sumbitted during the malvaceae week... Thanks Usha di = On Sep 23, 6:52 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sir First Time i could shot this plant in flowering mode. In Last 9-10 visits i could not see its flowers On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, another good catch -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar Common Name - Ulat Kambal -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89682] Re: Flora of Haryana: Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Beautiful pictures Prasad ji. thank you for sharing. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:33 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Balkar sir i think i learn from this group and especially from you how to take photograph of different parts of a plant in different angles. So thanks to the group for giving me an opportunity to learn. These are mine from Orissa Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji wonderful... to see the ULAT Palat... the downfacing flowers when pollinated, signal a cell elongation factor etc to perform this acrobatic feat.. I just love these exercises that can be seen so quickly in a plant.. Usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Fruits of the same Plant On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All: I thought so sometimes these gardens label stuff wrong I had done a lot of reading before I labelled my pictures... and thanks for confirming... the name... usha di == On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Sir you are right Name is also incorrect on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Devil's%20Cotton.html On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ushadi There is no published name Abroma robusta, the label must be an error Balkar ji the correct spellings are A. augusta (L.) L.f. and not A. angusta -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: I think Abroma angusta only. also called as Devil's Cotton On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji: Very nice... good to see so many photos of the flowers... quite rare... question: is it Abroma angusta or robusta? as your label shows... also I dont think its aNgusta ... it may be aUgusta... I may be wrong... pleas check... Now I guess you'll have to go back and photograph the pollinated seedpods that do the ULAT palat. my pictures of that Ulat palat are at: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/47056d7cc4ad71cb/373ef049f0271a6d?lnk=gstq=abroma+usha+di#373ef049f0271a6d sumbitted during the malvaceae week... Thanks Usha di = On Sep 23, 6:52 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sir First Time i could shot this plant in flowering mode. In Last 9-10 visits i could not see its flowers On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, another good catch -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar Common Name - Ulat Kambal -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89683] Re: Flora of Haryana: Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Thanks Yazdyji for appreciation. Its only due to the space that this group has given me. Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful pictures Prasad ji. thank you for sharing. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:33 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Balkar sir i think i learn from this group and especially from you how to take photograph of different parts of a plant in different angles. So thanks to the group for giving me an opportunity to learn. These are mine from Orissa Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji wonderful... to see the ULAT Palat... the downfacing flowers when pollinated, signal a cell elongation factor etc to perform this acrobatic feat.. I just love these exercises that can be seen so quickly in a plant.. Usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Fruits of the same Plant On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All: I thought so sometimes these gardens label stuff wrong I had done a lot of reading before I labelled my pictures... and thanks for confirming... the name... usha di == On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Sir you are right Name is also incorrect on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Devil's%20Cotton.html On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ushadi There is no published name Abroma robusta, the label must be an error Balkar ji the correct spellings are A. augusta (L.) L.f. and not A. angusta -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: I think Abroma angusta only. also called as Devil's Cotton On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji: Very nice... good to see so many photos of the flowers... quite rare... question: is it Abroma angusta or robusta? as your label shows... also I dont think its aNgusta ... it may be aUgusta... I may be wrong... pleas check... Now I guess you'll have to go back and photograph the pollinated seedpods that do the ULAT palat. my pictures of that Ulat palat are at: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/47056d7cc4ad71cb/373ef049f0271a6d?lnk=gstq=abroma+usha+di#373ef049f0271a6d sumbitted during the malvaceae week... Thanks Usha di = On Sep 23, 6:52 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sir First Time i could shot this plant in flowering mode. In Last 9-10 visits i could not see its flowers On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, another good catch -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar Common Name - Ulat Kambal -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89685] Colville's Glory - from old lot
Another nice upload Dalia ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Dalia Set setda...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends The tree and it's flowers were shot in 2008 and I remeber it was raining - so must be in July / August. Location: Kolkata - Rabindra Sarobar Botanical Name: Colvillea racemosa Belongs to Gulmohor family Looks magnificiant when in full bloom. Thanks Dalia
Re: [efloraofindia:89686] Re: Flora of Haryana: Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Prasad ji , you are part of the group. Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:48 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Yazdyji for appreciation. Its only due to the space that this group has given me. Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful pictures Prasad ji. thank you for sharing. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:33 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Balkar sir i think i learn from this group and especially from you how to take photograph of different parts of a plant in different angles. So thanks to the group for giving me an opportunity to learn. These are mine from Orissa Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji wonderful... to see the ULAT Palat... the downfacing flowers when pollinated, signal a cell elongation factor etc to perform this acrobatic feat.. I just love these exercises that can be seen so quickly in a plant.. Usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Fruits of the same Plant On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All: I thought so sometimes these gardens label stuff wrong I had done a lot of reading before I labelled my pictures... and thanks for confirming... the name... usha di == On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Sir you are right Name is also incorrect on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Devil's%20Cotton.html On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ushadi There is no published name Abroma robusta, the label must be an error Balkar ji the correct spellings are A. augusta (L.) L.f. and not A. angusta -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: I think Abroma angusta only. also called as Devil's Cotton On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji: Very nice... good to see so many photos of the flowers... quite rare... question: is it Abroma angusta or robusta? as your label shows... also I dont think its aNgusta ... it may be aUgusta... I may be wrong... pleas check... Now I guess you'll have to go back and photograph the pollinated seedpods that do the ULAT palat. my pictures of that Ulat palat are at: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/47056d7cc4ad71cb/373ef049f0271a6d?lnk=gstq=abroma+usha+di#373ef049f0271a6d sumbitted during the malvaceae week... Thanks Usha di = On Sep 23, 6:52 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sir First Time i could shot this plant in flowering mode. In Last 9-10 visits i could not see its flowers On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, another good catch -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar Common Name - Ulat Kambal -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
[efloraofindia:89687] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Dear DI I love you! Thats all i will be able to jot after reading your letter. Happy Diwali and new year once again. Dear Pankaj a seperate letter for you is on the way, when i get time will jot down bye I love eflora too Madhuri From: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com To: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:48 AM Subject: Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !! Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on learning no matter whosoever is the mentor, I usually say a nearly illiterate mechanic knows so much about the machines, why he cannot be our teacher on the matter. Every person has his share of knowledge, we should always appreciate and acknowledge WISHING YOU AND THE ENTIRE GROUP A CHARMING AND FASCINATING DEEPAWALI. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org sahanipan...@gmail.com pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 9436 6251 (mobile) -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar
Re: [efloraofindia:89691] 25102011MC01
Many thanks to everybody for helping with the identification. Cheers, Mohan
[efloraofindia:89691] Happy Diwali
Dear all fine i wish you happy Diwali thanking you Madhu
Re: [efloraofindia:89692] Happy Diwali
Many thanks Madhu ji, wishing you and your family a Happy Deepavali. Regards. Dinesh On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Madhusudhana Reddy grass...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all fine i wish you happy Diwali thanking you Madhu
[efloraofindia:89694] Re: Flora of Chakrata: Ipomoea hederifolia near Kalsi on Kalsi Chakrata Road
Please read it as I. rubriflora. Regards, Ritesh.
Re: [efloraofindia:89695] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Interesting Usha di ji, I was the opposite, never felt lonely, always by myself. If I felt lonely, I would go out for a walk. I thought the best in one comes out when one is alone. Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear DI I love you! Thats all i will be able to jot after reading your letter. Happy Diwali and new year once again. Dear Pankaj a seperate letter for you is on the way, when i get time will jot down bye I love eflora too Madhuri From: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com To: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:48 AM Subject: Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !! Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on learning no matter whosoever is the mentor, I usually say a nearly illiterate mechanic knows so much about the machines, why he cannot be our teacher on the matter. Every person has his share of knowledge, we should always appreciate and acknowledge WISHING YOU AND THE ENTIRE GROUP A CHARMING AND FASCINATING DEEPAWALI. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org
Re: [efloraofindia:89696] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Hahaha, me and Yazdy sir have many things in common. The best thing being both are so young and dynamic :P... I will respond to the post once i am back at home. Regards Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting Usha di ji, I was the opposite, never felt lonely, always by myself. If I felt lonely, I would go out for a walk. I thought the best in one comes out when one is alone. Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear DI I love you! Thats all i will be able to jot after reading your letter. Happy Diwali and new year once again. Dear Pankaj a seperate letter for you is on the way, when i get time will jot down bye I love eflora too Madhuri From: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com To: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:48 AM Subject: Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !! Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on learning no matter whosoever is the mentor, I usually say a nearly illiterate mechanic knows so much about the machines, why he cannot be our teacher on the matter. Every person has his share of knowledge, we should always appreciate and acknowledge WISHING YOU AND THE ENTIRE GROUP A CHARMING AND FASCINATING DEEPAWALI. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer
Re: [efloraofindia:89697] Re: Flora of Chakrata: Ipomoea hederifolia near Kalsi on Kalsi Chakrata Road
Ritesh ji It is really confusing. May be species identified as I. rubriflora in the pdf is not correct. The two species I. coccinea (now rubriflora) and I. hederifolia really close only leaves (plus few minor characters) seem to be differentiating them. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary ritesh@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir, Requesting you to reconsider my points. According to the key provided above, I. rubrifolia (=I. coccina) is characterized by the presence of yellow neck and ovate-cordate leaves. But in the PDF file attached above, the plant shows yellow neck and lobed leaves. This is creating confusion for me. Attaching some more pictures for your perusal. Regards, Ritesh.
Re: [efloraofindia:89698] Garden Flower for ID : 100711 : AK-3
If not wrong, it is Callistephus chinensis. B. Subramaniam On 10/24/11, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: miniature aster or china aster On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:33 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding again for botanical name please. -- Forwarded message -- From: Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com Date: 10 July 2011 20:26 Subject: [efloraofindia:73772] Garden Flower for ID : 100711 : AK-3 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com Taken at the 'Flower Show' at Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai on 18/2/2011. A small potted plant. Aarti -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. For identification, learning, discussion documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1725 members 85,000 messages on 30/9/11) or Efloraofindia website: https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database of around 5500 species). Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata Common Birds of India'.
Re: [efloraofindia:89699] Re: Flora of Chakrata: Ipomoea hederifolia near Kalsi on Kalsi Chakrata Road
And interestinglyFlora of Korea reports I. hederifolia as the cultivated species in Korea. There is no mention of I. coccina or I. rubriflora. Another Korean weed-flora mentions I. cholulensis with the photo of similar looking plant. The above fotos were taken at Daejeon, S. Korea. Regards, Ritesh.
Re: [efloraofindia:89700] Happy and Prosperous Diwali with Rosa webbiana from Lahual Valley Himachal
Happy Diwali Pravir ji, All the best Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear members wish you all Happy and Prosperous Diwali Rosa webbiana Recorded from lahul Valley Himachal Prades Elevation: 3000 m Best Regards -- Pravir Deshmukh
Re: [efloraofindia:89701] identification no 241011sn3
Satish Ji Its your turn now. We can not just have a name of the plant. You have to reply back with relevant details when someone asks for it. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear All, This refers to my earlier query.Kindly confirm if this is Argyreia elliptica or Argyreia sericea.I found the back of the leaf silver coloured.Taken at Mulshi,Pune in july/aug11. thanks regards satish nikam -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89703] Re: Flora of Chakrata: Ipomoea hederifolia near Kalsi on Kalsi Chakrata Road
Yes Ritesh ji Your plant seems true I. coccinea (=I. rubriflora), but then there is lot of confusion in literature especially on the net. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary ritesh@gmail.com wrote: And interestinglyFlora of Korea reports I. hederifolia as the cultivated species in Korea. There is no mention of I. coccina or I. rubriflora. Another Korean weed-flora mentions I. cholulensis with the photo of similar looking plant. The above fotos were taken at Daejeon, S. Korea. Regards, Ritesh.
Re: [efloraofindia:89704] The genus Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) in the northern and parts of central Western Ghats
Thanks Giby ji I had heard that the genus Impatiens is getting revised.This one appears to be very latest paper. Thanks for sharing. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: I was trying to send the pdf but unfortunately, because of its larger size the paper didnt get uploaded. Please try download an interesting work by Jyosna and Janarthanam Sir (Department of Botany, Goa University, Goa) on The genus Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) in the northern and parts of central Western Ghats Thanks to Rheedea, Jyosna and Janarthanam sir for this wonderful work. Link for the article http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea21_23-80.pdf Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 11:54, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to share another interesting and nicely done work. Thanks to Rheedea Jyosna and Janarthanam sir. Regards Giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89702] Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
Yes I liked the way you have searched going into details about characters. Nice post. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89705] Sparkling Diwali wishes to everbody!
wish you and your family A Happy Diwali Raghu Ji. Regards Yazdy. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com wrote: *Dear eflora friends, SPARKLING DIWALI WISHES TO EVERYBODY! Regards Raghu Ananth*
Re: [efloraofindia:89707] Sparkling Diwali wishes to everbody!
Raghu ji many thanks for the Divali greetings and the beautiful orchid. Wish you and family a VERY HAPPY DIVALI. Regards, Mani Nair
Re: [efloraofindia:89708] Re: Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
Dear Usha di *Melochia corchorifolia* Though I have said that there are differences in both, the characters remain completely the same which I will enumerate further. No two plants can be perfectly same. One has to conclude according to matching characters which you also agree. The characters for the said plant which I checked from BSI flora are as follows. Some characters which can't be seen but I know because I have seen the plant.(Esp. regarding sizes which can't be shown here) Herbs upto 1m tall.Fitting. Leaves 2.5-6.3bye 0.6-4.0cm, ovate oblong sometimes obscurely 3 lobed.fitting. glabrous or with a few scattered stellate hairs, apex acute,base acute obtuse or truncatefitting Margins serrate...fitting. Flowers 1cm across fitting. in terminal densely crowded clustersfitting perfectly. Capsule depressed, globose, hispid(Covered with stiff hair;bristly)...fitting Seeds angled,mottled black grey..Not seen here...(Limitation). Still I may be completely wrong in identifying my plant. You said the differences are major. If you can tell me the differences in characters please let me know so that I can study further. Or if there is a scenario that you know of any other plant with above listed characters which may be possible please let me know so that I can check my notes again. Incidently myself and Neil ji are also medical doctors who will not come to diagnosis only from the gross features. Regards Dr Satish On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: gosh... those are the major differences to me they do not look the same... IN a A BIGGER PICTURE of the world of FLORA: that's my GLOBAL point... ID based on a single photograph and just matching to something published in pictorial only... is not good... that's why taxonomic features and its relevant vocabulary knowledge is necessary... where features can be judged, identified, and compared ... and ID of the plant arrived at... MOST OF INCLUDING YOURS TRULY is often guilty of just matching up the pictures and forming a visual impression... AKIN to something like the GROSS diagnosis in Medicine not scientific... YOUR PIC and Neil's may be the same but to my eye looking only grossly they seem a bit different... you think they are the same because... tell me the scientific points... as if you were lecturing in a botany class.. Usha di = . On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Madhuri Raut itii...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely photographs Satish ji and Neil ji Regards Bhagyashri On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote: Why do you think so Usha di Both plants seem perfectly same to me. Of course some differences might be there due to 1)Camera2)Light3)Time of the day4)Regional/nutritional variations 5)Maturity of fruits but I think they are in a range. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Here 's Neil's thread...http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/ browse_thread/thread/c9887aaf25e848f3/b9666403a055fa80? lnk=gstq=Melochia+corchorifolia#b9666403a055fa80 not too long ago... BUT Neil and Satish : please look at both ... dont they look different... asking based on ignorance of this plant... usha di == On Oct 21, 3:24 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Affirmative Dr.Phadke. This is Melochia corchorifolia. My photographs of this are available in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 10/21/11, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:88869] Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 2:58 PM This picture was lying in my Kerala visit folder un Id ed. A small to mid sized shrub. I don't remember the details but the flower size similar to Sida? I think this is Melochia corchorifolia. Please validate. -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89709] Re: Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
I think Ushadi may be right. The colour of the petiole in the pictures of Satish Phadke is red or purple whereas that of the shrubs in Neil's pictures both sets is green. To a lay person, this is the most obvious. This though is the observation of a novice. The edges of the leaves also seem to be slightly different. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Usha di Melochia corchorifolia Though I have said that there are differences in both, the characters remain completely the same which I will enumerate further. No two plants can be perfectly same. One has to conclude according to matching characters which you also agree. The characters for the said plant which I checked from BSI flora are as follows. Some characters which can't be seen but I know because I have seen the plant.(Esp. regarding sizes which can't be shown here) Herbs upto 1m tall.Fitting. Leaves 2.5-6.3bye 0.6-4.0cm, ovate oblong sometimes obscurely 3 lobed.fitting. glabrous or with a few scattered stellate hairs, apex acute,base acute obtuse or truncatefitting Margins serrate...fitting. Flowers 1cm across fitting. in terminal densely crowded clustersfitting perfectly. Capsule depressed, globose, hispid(Covered with stiff hair;bristly)...fitting Seeds angled,mottled black grey..Not seen here...(Limitation). Still I may be completely wrong in identifying my plant. You said the differences are major. If you can tell me the differences in characters please let me know so that I can study further. Or if there is a scenario that you know of any other plant with above listed characters which may be possible please let me know so that I can check my notes again. Incidently myself and Neil ji are also medical doctors who will not come to diagnosis only from the gross features. Regards Dr Satish On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: gosh... those are the major differences to me they do not look the same... IN a A BIGGER PICTURE of the world of FLORA: that's my GLOBAL point... ID based on a single photograph and just matching to something published in pictorial only... is not good... that's why taxonomic features and its relevant vocabulary knowledge is necessary... where features can be judged, identified, and compared ... and ID of the plant arrived at... MOST OF INCLUDING YOURS TRULY is often guilty of just matching up the pictures and forming a visual impression... AKIN to something like the GROSS diagnosis in Medicine not scientific... YOUR PIC and Neil's may be the same but to my eye looking only grossly they seem a bit different... you think they are the same because... tell me the scientific points... as if you were lecturing in a botany class.. Usha di = . On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Madhuri Raut itii...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely photographs Satish ji and Neil ji Regards Bhagyashri On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think so Usha di Both plants seem perfectly same to me. Of course some differences might be there due to 1)Camera2)Light3)Time of the day4)Regional/nutritional variations 5)Maturity of fruits but I think they are in a range. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Here 's Neil's thread...http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/ browse_thread/thread/c9887aaf25e848f3/b9666403a055fa80? lnk=gstq=Melochia+corchorifolia#b9666403a055fa80 not too long ago... BUT Neil and Satish : please look at both ... dont they look different... asking based on ignorance of this plant... usha di == On Oct 21, 3:24 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Affirmative Dr.Phadke. This is Melochia corchorifolia. My photographs of this are available in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 10/21/11, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:88869] Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 2:58 PM This picture was lying in my Kerala visit folder un Id ed. A small to mid sized shrub. I don't remember the details but the flower size similar to Sida? I think this is Melochia corchorifolia. Please validate. -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89711] 25102011MC01
Incidentally, could somebody guide me as to how to differentiate between P. ricasoliana and P.brycei. The flowers look rather similar. Thanks. Regards, Mohan
[efloraofindia:89711] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
Thanks for the appreciative remark. Working on stamen number in existing images; Will appreciate knowing whether you (or any other group member) concur with id minus the stamen number. Regards, Samir On Oct 25, 10:31 am, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work and great effort! Would you please mention the number of stamens in your plant? Thanks and Regards, Giby On 24 October 2011 18:56, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
[efloraofindia:89712] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
Thank You. On Oct 25, 2:07 pm, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I liked the way you have searched going into details about characters. Nice post. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- Dr Satish Phadke Dr. Mehta
Re: [efloraofindia:89713] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Well, Diwali is a family festival, so is X'mas. In India we celebrate Diwali not with just familymembers but have relatives, friends etc. etc. X'mas is celebreted in the smallest possible family. Papa, Mama, children. The children above 18 have mostly their own familyworld and so they come to visit the parents on 25. or 26. dec. My experience about indian families is that they celebrate Diwali in the smallest possible family. You are welcome after the festival but not during the festival. On Diwali we had to work anyway, so there was not much time to feel alone. When we were working and living in Königswinter near Bonn, we used to have one or two foreign students from the University Bonn at our place for X'mas. All of us enjoyed talking to eachother, learning about the other culture, the festivals, and many more things. I was very happy doing this. There was no obligation that we should meet again, but we still had good contacts for some years. My Kazach-student I met years later accidently in Bremen. On newyears eve we did not go out for a party or so, but used the opportunity to work in the house, hammer, and drill and such noisy things which we had still to do. The rest of the world was making noise in their way. Btw. On newyears day all german regional TVs and nowadays other european countries show a programm called Dinner for one a cult series, the most frequently repeated TV programme according to gueness book of records.No one misses it. If you want to have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lzQxjGL9S0 here it is. *Story line* The sketch presents the 90th birthday of elderly upper-class Englishwoman Miss Sophie, who hosts a dinner every year for her close friends Mr Pommeroy, Mr Winterbottom, Sir Toby, and Admiral von Schneider to celebrate the occasion. (Note that the plot has nothing to do with New Year's Eve, as is often incorrectly stated. There is a Happy new year toast, but this is purely a reference to Miss Sophie's anniversary.) The problem is that given Miss Sophie's considerable age, she has outlived all of her friends, and so her equally aged manservant James makes his way around the table, impersonating each of the guests in turn. Miss Sophie decides on appropriate drinks to accompany the menu of the evening, served by James, and so he finds himself raising (and emptying) his glass four times per course. That takes its toll, increasingly noticeable in James' growing difficulty in pouring the drinks, telling wine glasses from vases of flowers, and refraining from bursting into song. Even before the alcohol begins to exert its influence, he has trouble avoiding the head of a tiger skin lying on the floor between the dinner table and the buffet. The crucial exchange during every course is: James: The same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Miss Sophie: The same procedure as every year, James! After the dinner, Miss Sophie indicates to a very drunk James that she wishes to retire to bed, to which James responds: James: By the way, the same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Miss Sophie (/delightedly/): The same procedure as every year, James! James: Well, I'll do my very best! read more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinner_for_One. Regards Nalini Am 25.10.2011 08:18, schrieb Ushadi micromini: Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha
Fwd: Re: [efloraofindia:89714] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
OH, I forgot to wish all members a very happy Diwali-Festival. Nalini Original-Nachricht Betreff:Re: [efloraofindia:89662] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !! Datum: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:08:20 +0200 Von:Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de An: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com Kopie (CC): Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com, efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com Well, Diwali is a family festival, so is X'mas. In India we celebrate Diwali not with just familymembers but have relatives, friends etc. etc. X'mas is celebreted in the smallest possible family. Papa, Mama, children. The children above 18 have mostly their own familyworld and so they come to visit the parents on 25. or 26. dec. My experience about indian families is that they celebrate Diwali in the smallest possible family. You are welcome after the festival but not during the festival. On Diwali we had to work anyway, so there was not much time to feel alone. When we were working and living in Königswinter near Bonn, we used to have one or two foreign students from the University Bonn at our place for X'mas. All of us enjoyed talking to eachother, learning about the other culture, the festivals, and many more things. I was very happy doing this. There was no obligation that we should meet again, but we still had good contacts for some years. My Kazach-student I met years later accidently in Bremen. On newyears eve we did not go out for a party or so, but used the opportunity to work in the house, hammer, and drill and such noisy things which we had still to do. The rest of the world was making noise in their way. Btw. On newyears day all german regional TVs and nowadays other european countries show a programm called Dinner for one a cult series, the most frequently repeated TV programme according to gueness book of records.No one misses it. If you want to have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lzQxjGL9S0 here it is. *Story line* The sketch presents the 90th birthday of elderly upper-class Englishwoman Miss Sophie, who hosts a dinner every year for her close friends Mr Pommeroy, Mr Winterbottom, Sir Toby, and Admiral von Schneider to celebrate the occasion. (Note that the plot has nothing to do with New Year's Eve, as is often incorrectly stated. There is a Happy new year toast, but this is purely a reference to Miss Sophie's anniversary.) The problem is that given Miss Sophie's considerable age, she has outlived all of her friends, and so her equally aged manservant James makes his way around the table, impersonating each of the guests in turn. Miss Sophie decides on appropriate drinks to accompany the menu of the evening, served by James, and so he finds himself raising (and emptying) his glass four times per course. That takes its toll, increasingly noticeable in James' growing difficulty in pouring the drinks, telling wine glasses from vases of flowers, and refraining from bursting into song. Even before the alcohol begins to exert its influence, he has trouble avoiding the head of a tiger skin lying on the floor between the dinner table and the buffet. The crucial exchange during every course is: James: The same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Miss Sophie: The same procedure as every year, James! After the dinner, Miss Sophie indicates to a very drunk James that she wishes to retire to bed, to which James responds: James: By the way, the same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Miss Sophie (/delightedly/): The same procedure as every year, James! James: Well, I'll do my very best! read more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinner_for_One. Regards Nalini Am 25.10.2011 08:18, schrieb Ushadi micromini: Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that
Re: [efloraofindia:89717] Re: Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
The plant posted by Satish ji and the one posted by Neilji (link provided by Ushadi ji) are the same species. This species is distributed widely and place to place it shows variations in color, leaf shape and etc. Sometimes huge variations such as cordate to round leaf base in some places, the leaves are slightly lobed as well. Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 16:00, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ushadi may be right. The colour of the petiole in the pictures of Satish Phadke is red or purple whereas that of the shrubs in Neil's pictures both sets is green. To a lay person, this is the most obvious. This though is the observation of a novice. The edges of the leaves also seem to be slightly different. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Usha di Melochia corchorifolia Though I have said that there are differences in both, the characters remain completely the same which I will enumerate further. No two plants can be perfectly same. One has to conclude according to matching characters which you also agree. The characters for the said plant which I checked from BSI flora are as follows. Some characters which can't be seen but I know because I have seen the plant.(Esp. regarding sizes which can't be shown here) Herbs upto 1m tall.Fitting. Leaves 2.5-6.3bye 0.6-4.0cm, ovate oblong sometimes obscurely 3 lobed.fitting. glabrous or with a few scattered stellate hairs, apex acute,base acute obtuse or truncatefitting Margins serrate...fitting. Flowers 1cm across fitting. in terminal densely crowded clustersfitting perfectly. Capsule depressed, globose, hispid(Covered with stiff hair;bristly)...fitting Seeds angled,mottled black grey..Not seen here...(Limitation). Still I may be completely wrong in identifying my plant. You said the differences are major. If you can tell me the differences in characters please let me know so that I can study further. Or if there is a scenario that you know of any other plant with above listed characters which may be possible please let me know so that I can check my notes again. Incidently myself and Neil ji are also medical doctors who will not come to diagnosis only from the gross features. Regards Dr Satish On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: gosh... those are the major differences to me they do not look the same... IN a A BIGGER PICTURE of the world of FLORA: that's my GLOBAL point... ID based on a single photograph and just matching to something published in pictorial only... is not good... that's why taxonomic features and its relevant vocabulary knowledge is necessary... where features can be judged, identified, and compared ... and ID of the plant arrived at... MOST OF INCLUDING YOURS TRULY is often guilty of just matching up the pictures and forming a visual impression... AKIN to something like the GROSS diagnosis in Medicine not scientific... YOUR PIC and Neil's may be the same but to my eye looking only grossly they seem a bit different... you think they are the same because... tell me the scientific points... as if you were lecturing in a botany class.. Usha di = . On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Madhuri Raut itii...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely photographs Satish ji and Neil ji Regards Bhagyashri On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think so Usha di Both plants seem perfectly same to me. Of course some differences might be there due to 1)Camera2)Light3)Time of the day4)Regional/nutritional variations 5)Maturity of fruits but I think they are in a range. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Here 's Neil's thread... http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/ browse_thread/thread/c9887aaf25e848f3/b9666403a055fa80? lnk=gstq=Melochia+corchorifolia#b9666403a055fa80 not too long ago... BUT Neil and Satish : please look at both ... dont they look different... asking based on ignorance of this plant... usha di == On Oct 21, 3:24 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Affirmative Dr.Phadke. This is Melochia corchorifolia. My photographs of this are available in the archives of this group. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Fri, 10/21/11, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:88869] Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, October 21, 2011, 2:58 PM This picture was lying in my Kerala visit folder un Id ed. A small to mid sized shrub. I don't
Re: [efloraofindia:89716] Flora of Haryana: Cosmos bipinnatus from elleflorist Nursery Karnal
Thanks for Confirmation Sir On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Balkar ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All Cosmos bipinnatus from elleflorist Nursery Karnal thanks -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89720] Re: Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
Thank you Giby Ji.
Regards
Yazdy.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Giby Kuriakose
giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote:
The plant posted by Satish ji and the one posted by Neilji (link provided by
Ushadi ji) are the same species.
This species is distributed widely and place to place it shows variations in
color, leaf shape and etc. Sometimes huge variations such as cordate to
round leaf base in some places, the leaves are slightly lobed as well.
Regards,
Giby
On 25 October 2011 16:00, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Ushadi may be right. The colour of the petiole in the pictures
of Satish Phadke is red or purple whereas that of the shrubs in Neil's
pictures both sets is green. To a lay person, this is the most
obvious. This though is the observation of a novice. The edges of the
leaves also seem to be slightly different.
Regards
Yazdy.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear Usha di
Melochia corchorifolia
Though I have said that there are differences in both, the characters
remain
completely the same which I will enumerate further. No two plants can be
perfectly same. One has to conclude according to matching characters
which
you also agree.
The characters for the said plant which I checked from BSI flora are as
follows. Some characters which can't be seen but I know because I have
seen
the plant.(Esp. regarding sizes which can't be shown here)
Herbs upto 1m tall.Fitting.
Leaves 2.5-6.3bye 0.6-4.0cm, ovate oblong sometimes obscurely 3
lobed.fitting.
glabrous or with a few scattered stellate hairs, apex acute,base acute
obtuse or truncatefitting
Margins serrate...fitting.
Flowers 1cm across fitting. in terminal densely crowded
clustersfitting perfectly.
Capsule depressed, globose, hispid(Covered with stiff
hair;bristly)...fitting
Seeds angled,mottled black grey..Not seen here...(Limitation).
Still I may be completely wrong in identifying my plant.
You said the differences are major.
If you can tell me the differences in characters please let me know so
that
I can study further. Or if there is a scenario that you know of any
other
plant with above listed characters which may be possible please let me
know
so that I can check my notes again.
Incidently myself and Neil ji are also medical doctors who will not come
to
diagnosis only from the gross features.
Regards
Dr Satish
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
gosh...
those are the major differences
to me they do not look the same...
IN a A BIGGER PICTURE of the world of FLORA:
that's my GLOBAL point...
ID based on a single photograph and just matching to something
published
in pictorial only... is not good...
that's why taxonomic features and its relevant vocabulary knowledge is
necessary... where features can be judged, identified, and compared
... and
ID of the plant arrived at...
MOST OF INCLUDING YOURS TRULY is often guilty of just matching up the
pictures and forming a visual impression... AKIN to something like the
GROSS diagnosis in Medicine not scientific...
YOUR PIC and Neil's may be the same but to my eye looking only grossly
they seem a bit different... you think they are the same
because...
tell me the scientific points... as if you were lecturing in a botany
class..
Usha di
=
.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Madhuri Raut itii...@gmail.com
wrote:
Lovely photographs Satish ji and Neil ji
Regards
Bhagyashri
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
wrote:
Why do you think so Usha di
Both plants seem perfectly same to me.
Of course some differences might be there due to
1)Camera2)Light3)Time
of the day4)Regional/nutritional variations 5)Maturity of fruits
but I think they are in a range.
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Ushadi micromini
microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:
Here 's Neil's
thread...http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/
browse_thread/thread/c9887aaf25e848f3/b9666403a055fa80?
lnk=gstq=Melochia+corchorifolia#b9666403a055fa80
not too long ago...
BUT
Neil and Satish :
please look at both ... dont they look different...
asking based on ignorance of this plant...
usha di
==
On Oct 21, 3:24 pm, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:
Affirmative Dr.Phadke. This is Melochia corchorifolia. My
photographs
of this are available in the archives of this group.
With regards,
Neil Soares.
--- On Fri, 10/21/11, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:88869] Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date:
Re: [efloraofindia:89718] Re: Flora of Chakrata Part-2: Cyclanthera pedata from Chakrata
In Chakrata also it is called as Karela and eaten as vegetable. This was also grown by a shopkeeper there for personal use On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes Ushadi This plant was discussed in our forum in detail, when some one mentioned about sweet karela being grown in N E India. Subsequently I found it in Manali, Kashmir this year and couple of times in California grown as vegetable. Manali people call it as karela. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: very interesting... in south america its eaten as vegetable.. I was surprised to see it is cultivated in north india, and the flowers are nothing to write home about.. so I wondered why? not a garden ornamental.. googling got me this: that its grown in Bhutan and eaten as stuffed vegetable.. http://www.cropsforthefuture.org/2011/10/cyclanthera-pedata-from-the-andes-to-the-himalayas/ your picture shows that the green skin has spicules (is that the right word?) ... wonder if they are sharp ? MY QUESTION TO YOU BALKAR JI: SInce its being cultivated in your neighborhood... is it eaten as vegetable there too? thanks Usha di === 7:37 am, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for validation Sir On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Balkar ji Very nice set of photographs. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Cyclanthera pedata from Chakrata Cultivated vine pls validate Thanks -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89719] Flora of Haryana: Cosmos sulphureus from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Thanks Sir for validation On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Balkar ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Dear all Cosmos sulphureus from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar Thanks -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89721] Re: Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
@ Dear Satish: The write up is wonderful.. detailed... thank you , would take a while before I get back to you.. houseful of guests for about 10 days, then I'll have to rest..ha ha... Yes.. I know you and Neil are physicians, that's why I ventured, otherwise god knows how people would react to my asking such pointed questions... and my analogy to gross diagnosis ... I also know., you and Neil are both serious students of botany..already.. and I am just beginning , another reason for venturing... @ Dear Yadzy: when I look thing up and compare study.. you'll be in the loop.. @ GIby: thanks... will keep that in mind.. Usha di === On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Giby Ji. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: The plant posted by Satish ji and the one posted by Neilji (link provided by Ushadi ji) are the same species. This species is distributed widely and place to place it shows variations in color, leaf shape and etc. Sometimes huge variations such as cordate to round leaf base in some places, the leaves are slightly lobed as well. Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 16:00, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ushadi may be right. The colour of the petiole in the pictures of Satish Phadke is red or purple whereas that of the shrubs in Neil's pictures both sets is green. To a lay person, this is the most obvious. This though is the observation of a novice. The edges of the leaves also seem to be slightly different. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Usha di Melochia corchorifolia Though I have said that there are differences in both, the characters remain completely the same which I will enumerate further. No two plants can be perfectly same. One has to conclude according to matching characters which you also agree. The characters for the said plant which I checked from BSI flora are as follows. Some characters which can't be seen but I know because I have seen the plant.(Esp. regarding sizes which can't be shown here) Herbs upto 1m tall.Fitting. Leaves 2.5-6.3bye 0.6-4.0cm, ovate oblong sometimes obscurely 3 lobed.fitting. glabrous or with a few scattered stellate hairs, apex acute,base acute obtuse or truncatefitting Margins serrate...fitting. Flowers 1cm across fitting. in terminal densely crowded clustersfitting perfectly. Capsule depressed, globose, hispid(Covered with stiff hair;bristly)...fitting Seeds angled,mottled black grey..Not seen here...(Limitation). Still I may be completely wrong in identifying my plant. You said the differences are major. If you can tell me the differences in characters please let me know so that I can study further. Or if there is a scenario that you know of any other plant with above listed characters which may be possible please let me know so that I can check my notes again. Incidently myself and Neil ji are also medical doctors who will not come to diagnosis only from the gross features. Regards Dr Satish On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: gosh... those are the major differences to me they do not look the same... IN a A BIGGER PICTURE of the world of FLORA: that's my GLOBAL point... ID based on a single photograph and just matching to something published in pictorial only... is not good... that's why taxonomic features and its relevant vocabulary knowledge is necessary... where features can be judged, identified, and compared ... and ID of the plant arrived at... MOST OF INCLUDING YOURS TRULY is often guilty of just matching up the pictures and forming a visual impression... AKIN to something like the GROSS diagnosis in Medicine not scientific... YOUR PIC and Neil's may be the same but to my eye looking only grossly they seem a bit different... you think they are the same because... tell me the scientific points... as if you were lecturing in a botany class.. Usha di = . On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Madhuri Raut itii...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely photographs Satish ji and Neil ji Regards Bhagyashri On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think so Usha di Both plants seem perfectly same to me. Of course some differences might be there due to 1)Camera2)Light3)Time of the day4)Regional/nutritional variations 5)Maturity of fruits but I think they are in a range. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Here 's Neil's
Re: [efloraofindia:89722] 25102011MC01
Mohan ji here are few differences *P. brycei:* Leaflets 9-11, lanceolate to ovate; corolla abruptly campanulate in upper part, pale pink marked with red, throat yellow, 4 cm long; panicle many-flowered *P. ricasoliana:* Leaflets 7-9, ovate; corolla pale pink striped with red, funnel shaped, 5 cm long; panicle loose http://www.latin-wife.com/Colombian-Flowers-/Podranea-brycei.asp Perhaps better view of leaf can help -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Mohan V. Chunkath mohan.chunk...@gmail.com wrote: Incidentally, could somebody guide me as to how to differentiate between P. ricasoliana and P.brycei. The flowers look rather similar. Thanks. Regards, Mohan
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:89723] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Na bha.. happy diwali, so far awaty... and YOU ARE FUNNY...:):) Usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: OH, I forgot to wish all members a very happy Diwali-Festival. Nalini Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: [efloraofindia:89662] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !! Datum: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:08:20 +0200 Von: Na Bha nabha-megh...@gmx.de nabha-megh...@gmx.de An: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com microminipho...@gmail.com Kopie (CC): Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com sahanipan...@gmail.com, efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.comindiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com formpeja...@yahoo.com Well, Diwali is a family festival, so is X'mas. In India we celebrate Diwali not with just familymembers but have relatives, friends etc. etc. X'mas is celebreted in the smallest possible family. Papa, Mama, children. The children above 18 have mostly their own familyworld and so they come to visit the parents on 25. or 26. dec. My experience about indian families is that they celebrate Diwali in the smallest possible family. You are welcome after the festival but not during the festival. On Diwali we had to work anyway, so there was not much time to feel alone. When we were working and living in Königswinter near Bonn, we used to have one or two foreign students from the University Bonn at our place for X'mas. All of us enjoyed talking to eachother, learning about the other culture, the festivals, and many more things. I was very happy doing this. There was no obligation that we should meet again, but we still had good contacts for some years. My Kazach-student I met years later accidently in Bremen. On newyears eve we did not go out for a party or so, but used the opportunity to work in the house, hammer, and drill and such noisy things which we had still to do. The rest of the world was making noise in their way. Btw. On newyears day all german regional TVs and nowadays other european countries show a programm called Dinner for one a cult series, the most frequently repeated TV programme according to gueness book of records. No one misses it. If you want to have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lzQxjGL9S0 here it is. *Story line* The sketch presents the 90th birthday of elderly upper-class Englishwoman Miss Sophie, who hosts a dinner every year for her close friends Mr Pommeroy, Mr Winterbottom, Sir Toby, and Admiral von Schneider to celebrate the occasion. (Note that the plot has nothing to do with New Year's Eve, as is often incorrectly stated. There is a Happy new year toast, but this is purely a reference to Miss Sophie's anniversary.) The problem is that given Miss Sophie's considerable age, she has outlived all of her friends, and so her equally aged manservant James makes his way around the table, impersonating each of the guests in turn. Miss Sophie decides on appropriate drinks to accompany the menu of the evening, served by James, and so he finds himself raising (and emptying) his glass four times per course. That takes its toll, increasingly noticeable in James' growing difficulty in pouring the drinks, telling wine glasses from vases of flowers, and refraining from bursting into song. Even before the alcohol begins to exert its influence, he has trouble avoiding the head of a tiger skin lying on the floor between the dinner table and the buffet. The crucial exchange during every course is: James: The same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Miss Sophie: The same procedure as every year, James! After the dinner, Miss Sophie indicates to a very drunk James that she wishes to retire to bed, to which James responds: James: By the way, the same procedure as last year, Miss Sophie? Miss Sophie (*delightedly*): The same procedure as every year, James! James: Well, I'll do my very best! read more http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinner_for_One. Regards Nalini Am 25.10.2011 08:18, schrieb Ushadi micromini: Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that
[efloraofindia:89725] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
Excellent reporting and beautiful photographs. Great effort. Thanks for sharing. On Oct 24, 6:26 pm, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta Ludwigia prostrata, stem DSC04896_resize.jpg 56KViewDownload Ludwigia prostrata, capsule with seed DSC04903_resize.jpg 54KViewDownload Ludwigia prostrata, leaf DSC04896_resize.jpg 56KViewDownload Ludwigia prostrata, plant @ Arrey DSC04894_resize.jpg 59KViewDownload Ludwigia prostrata, flower DSC04900_resize.jpg 52KViewDownload Ludwigia prostrata, capsule - maturing DSC04909 ed.jpg 54KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:89726] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Respected Usha mam Thanks for uplifting the mood. But you can bet, I wont try that method out here in HK. For me one basic logic of friendship is, you just dont make friends. It happens on its own!!! When I was searching for a flat and I had very limited time before I was to be kicked out of the guest house, then my agent said she knows an Indian family who want to rent their flat. I said then we can contact them. She contacted them and the answer was, WE DONT WISH TO GIVE OUR FLAT TO AN INDIAN!!! That was for sure unexpected for me. Lets hope to have good days ahead. Its not even two months here :) Thanks a lot Garg sir for appreciating the mail. Thanks a lot Amit and have a party on Diwali at WII. Thank you Ajay sir. I know very less about you though!! Regards Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on learning no matter whosoever is the mentor, I usually say a nearly illiterate mechanic knows so much about the machines, why he cannot be our teacher on the matter. Every person has his share of knowledge, we should always appreciate and acknowledge WISHING YOU AND THE ENTIRE GROUP A CHARMING AND FASCINATING DEEPAWALI. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam
[efloraofindia:89727] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Dear Yazdy: I just learnt I have been typing your name wrong... transposing z and d ... Yes ... alone yes... but never lonely.. when your conscious is clear, have many hobbies and family and friends (they may be away, but the strength of the relationship remains with you, always) and love of nature... and love for your chosen vocation... be a little spiritual, where you can talk to god without intermediaries... and add ability to yak yak with anybody... what more does one need.. I called those folks..not because I was lonely.. but I like human contacts ... have founded several Indian associations in towns I was in, and helped some ashrams to come up... no time for lonliness yes .. as you say.. there are long walks... thats where the best ideas come in.. Usha di ===. On Oct 25, 1:50 pm, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting Usha di ji, I was the opposite, never felt lonely, always by myself. If I felt lonely, I would go out for a walk. I thought the best in one comes out when one is alone. Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear DI I love you! Thats all i will be able to jot after reading your letter. Happy Diwali and new year once again. Dear Pankaj a seperate letter for you is on the way, when i get time will jot down bye I love eflora too Madhuri From: Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com To: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 11:48 AM Subject: Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !! Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on
[efloraofindia:89728] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Sorry to hear that.. any how be well... and be happy usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Respected Usha mam Thanks for uplifting the mood. But you can bet, I wont try that method out here in HK. For me one basic logic of friendship is, you just dont make friends. It happens on its own!!! When I was searching for a flat and I had very limited time before I was to be kicked out of the guest house, then my agent said she knows an Indian family who want to rent their flat. I said then we can contact them. She contacted them and the answer was, WE DONT WISH TO GIVE OUR FLAT TO AN INDIAN!!! That was for sure unexpected for me. Lets hope to have good days ahead. Its not even two months here :) Thanks a lot Garg sir for appreciating the mail. Thanks a lot Amit and have a party on Diwali at WII. Thank you Ajay sir. I know very less about you though!! Regards Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of India. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot Pankaj Ji for narrating a good personal lesson. One should keep on learning no matter whosoever is the mentor, I usually say a nearly illiterate mechanic knows so much about the machines, why he cannot be our teacher on the matter. Every person has his share of knowledge, we should always appreciate and acknowledge WISHING YOU AND THE ENTIRE GROUP A CHARMING AND FASCINATING DEEPAWALI. -- Regards, Dr. Nidhan Singh Department of Botany I.B. (PG) College Panipat-132103 Haryana Ph.: 09416371227 -- **
[efloraofindia:89730] Re: Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
Nice picture... what is collected?? is it the plant that you collected for herbarium or your lab? just photographed? I am nor sure what collected means.. please tell me... thanks Usha di = On Oct 25, 11:44 am, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks Pravirji Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: Thnaks for sharing such nice photo and plant -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89732] Fwd: 6th International Symposium on the family Zingiberaceae reg.
Thanks Giby ji for Information On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Forwarding the first announcement of the 6th International Symposium on the family Zingiberaceae to be held during 10-13 September, 2012 at Calicut University, Kerala. Thanks and Regards, Giby Dear all, We are very glad to announce the 6th International Symposium on the family Zingiberaceae to be held during 10-13 September, 2012 at Calicut University http://www.universityofcalicut.info/, keralahttp://www.keralatourism.org/, India, hosted by University of Calicut and Indian Association for Angiosperm Taxonomy. Attached is the *1st Announcement* and *Registration Form.* I expect the active participation of all ginger lovers/scientists. Hope to meet all of you in India in 2012. Department of Botany, Calicut University has a rich tradition of ginger research http://www.gingersofindia.com/ for the past 30 years and has the largest live collection of gingers with about 24 genera, 210 species and over 2000 accessions. If anyone else is working on this family in your country please forward this mail. For more information, please contact the organizing committee or visit the symposium website: http://www.gingersymposiu...@gmail.com (Under construction) http://www%2egingersymposiu...@gmail.com/ Thank you Yours sincerely -- Prof. M. Sabu Organizing Secretary 6th International Symposium on the family Zingiberaceae Department of Botany University of Calicut Calicut University P.O., 673635 Kerala, India gingersymposiu...@gmail.com -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89733] Re: Flora of Chakrata Part-2: Daphne papyracea from Deovan trek Chakrata
Thanks Ushadi Ji and Alok Ji On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Alok alokisabe...@gmail.com wrote: I've used the inner bark of this to make paper for my lampshades as they do in Nepal where it is called 'Lokta' paper... regards Alok On Oct 25, 10:47 am, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: not a botanist by any means, cant validate a botanist's diagnosis, which you have done already.. I just wanted to say that the detailed pictures are a good example of what to photograph Usha di On Oct 25, 5:56 am, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Daphne papyracea from Deovan trek Chakrata pls validate Thanks -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 Daphne papyracea (1).JPG 124KViewDownload Daphne papyracea (2).JPG 213KViewDownload Daphne papyracea (3).JPG 139KViewDownload Daphne papyracea (4).JPG 114KViewDownload -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89734] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Oh yes, when some one asks me how do you spend your time after retirement, don't you get bored? and they are surprised when I say no. And they are even more surprised when I tell them that besides my family at home I have more than 1700 photographer friends who love plants, and their love for plants keeps me more busy than I was when in service. Keep yourself busy and you are away from most evil thought. In fact you have no time for them. Long Live our group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:24 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry to hear that.. any how be well... and be happy usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Respected Usha mam Thanks for uplifting the mood. But you can bet, I wont try that method out here in HK. For me one basic logic of friendship is, you just dont make friends. It happens on its own!!! When I was searching for a flat and I had very limited time before I was to be kicked out of the guest house, then my agent said she knows an Indian family who want to rent their flat. I said then we can contact them. She contacted them and the answer was, WE DONT WISH TO GIVE OUR FLAT TO AN INDIAN!!! That was for sure unexpected for me. Lets hope to have good days ahead. Its not even two months here :) Thanks a lot Garg sir for appreciating the mail. Thanks a lot Amit and have a party on Diwali at WII. Thank you Ajay sir. I know very less about you though!! Regards Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj... why lonely... This what I used to do for about 40+ odd years.. whenever I was in a new town or a state.. I would look up the directory and look up phone numbers of Bose, Banerjee, Chatterjee, Desai, Dutta etc etc a few...the ethnic group that I was comfortable with... and call up somebody on the random and say I was new in town, I did not want anything, just to talk to someone in Bengali...if they were bengali or in Gujarati if they were gujaratis... most would be very happy to talk... not only that , i got invited...often enough... (some were cold though, ) so what.. ((there are 6 billion people on this earth .. all have reincarnated so that they can get closer to God.. so most are nice.. made friends... so what if 2 billion may not be up to the par.. that leaves 4 billion of them...to make friends with ..)) . Getting invited was not the end... even found a few long lost relatives that way... and we are still in touch, new found friends or the lost and found relatives, .. no matter where they have moved to or I ... across seven seas... I am sure there are thousands of Indians in HK, that you might find a few that match up your social and educational standard... although I know, HK is not USA... local culture may be very very different.. but expats are all basically the same... Indians are very hospitable people ... try it nothing to loose.. only keep you self-preservation antennae out.. and run if some one wants to shackle you... ha ha... or invest in a crazy scheme.. happened to me a few times.. just run... Good luck Usha di On Oct 25, 10:48 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Happy New year to you Usha mam... Enjoy... I imagine if I celebrate Chinese, Hong Kongers, or Indian new year, but the fact is I am too lonely to celebrate!!! Pankaj On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:51 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: OK Pankaj ... Ji... ji is for good measure... Very bright lights of HongKong... nice ... Have you taken pics of their vegetable market yet... or haven't had time to do touristy things!! :) The little kid in the story was too smart.. wrong but smart... street smarts take a person so far and no more... though ... Happy Diwali to all... wish me a Happy New year ours starts the day after Diwali ... Usha di == On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly I dont like senior people like you all to call me JI. I am a kid till I am not married :)) Thank you all for your good wishes and also for liking the story. Gurcharan sir, Unfortunately, during my college days, I never had a taxonomy teacher :(. There were teachers though, who never taught. :))) Pankaj On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Dr. Pankaj ji, Wish you and all your dear ones a Happy Divali and Dhanterast. Happy Divali and Dhanterast to all our friends on eflora of
Re: [efloraofindia:89731] Happy and Prosperous Diwali with Rosa webbiana from Lahual Valley Himachal
Happy Deepavali to you and your family, Pravir ji. Regards. Dinesh On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Diwali Pravir ji, All the best Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: Dear members wish you all Happy and Prosperous Diwali Rosa webbiana Recorded from lahul Valley Himachal Prades Elevation: 3000 m Best Regards -- Pravir Deshmukh
Re: [efloraofindia:89735] Re: 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
Thanks a lot for Special Diwali wishes Dinesh Ji. May this Diwali bring all happiness for you and all Family members. Happy Diwali to all eflora members Also. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Alok alokisabe...@gmail.com wrote: May you too enjoy the blessings and happiness of the light of knowledge... and a truly heart felt gesture in making the card A happy Diwali to all friends in eFI and may we all be blessed to enjoy the beauty and light of this nature surrounding us.. warm wishes Alok Mahendroo Dinesh Valke wrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may View https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0 OR Download https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jpg?attredirects=0d=1 high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89737] Re: Flora of Haryana: Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Lovely Catch On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Prasad ji , you are part of the group. Regards. Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:48 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Yazdyji for appreciation. Its only due to the space that this group has given me. Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Beautiful pictures Prasad ji. thank you for sharing. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:33 PM, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Balkar sir i think i learn from this group and especially from you how to take photograph of different parts of a plant in different angles. So thanks to the group for giving me an opportunity to learn. These are mine from Orissa Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji wonderful... to see the ULAT Palat... the downfacing flowers when pollinated, signal a cell elongation factor etc to perform this acrobatic feat.. I just love these exercises that can be seen so quickly in a plant.. Usha di == On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Fruits of the same Plant On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:56 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All: I thought so sometimes these gardens label stuff wrong I had done a lot of reading before I labelled my pictures... and thanks for confirming... the name... usha di == On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Sir you are right Name is also incorrect on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.in/catalog/slides/Devil's%20Cotton.html On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ushadi There is no published name Abroma robusta, the label must be an error Balkar ji the correct spellings are A. augusta (L.) L.f. and not A. angusta -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: I think Abroma angusta only. also called as Devil's Cotton On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Balkar ji: Very nice... good to see so many photos of the flowers... quite rare... question: is it Abroma angusta or robusta? as your label shows... also I dont think its aNgusta ... it may be aUgusta... I may be wrong... pleas check... Now I guess you'll have to go back and photograph the pollinated seedpods that do the ULAT palat. my pictures of that Ulat palat are at: http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/47056d7cc4ad71cb/373ef049f0271a6d?lnk=gstq=abroma+usha+di#373ef049f0271a6d sumbitted during the malvaceae week... Thanks Usha di = On Sep 23, 6:52 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Sir First Time i could shot this plant in flowering mode. In Last 9-10 visits i could not see its flowers On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, another good catch -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Abroma angusta from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar Common Name - Ulat Kambal -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89736] Colville's Glory - from old lot
Beautiful Shot On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Another nice upload Dalia ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Dalia Set setda...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Friends The tree and it's flowers were shot in 2008 and I remeber it was raining - so must be in July / August. Location: Kolkata - Rabindra Sarobar Botanical Name: Colvillea racemosa Belongs to Gulmohor family Looks magnificiant when in full bloom. Thanks Dalia -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89739] Re: Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
He means captured Usha di, Not all of us are good in English. It is a beautiful picture. To us, I am sure that is good enough. Sometimes, we may find it difficult to comprehend, but if we are insensitive, someone may feel belittled. Nice picture Prasad ji. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Nice picture... what is collected?? is it the plant that you collected for herbarium or your lab? just photographed? I am nor sure what collected means.. please tell me... thanks Usha di = On Oct 25, 11:44 am, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks Pravirji Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: Thnaks for sharing such nice photo and plant -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
Re: [efloraofindia:89738] Bambusa bambos (L.) Voss
Nice Catch Giby Ji On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Inflorescence of *Bambusa bambos* (L.) Voss (Syn: Bambusa arundinacea Willd.) of Poaceae family from Soppinabetta forests of Sringeri, Karnataka. The pictures are taken 10-10-2011. I attach a relevant paper (it says draft) on *B. abamos* as well. The flowering frequency varies between once in 30-49 years. Regards, Giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89741] The genus Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) in the northern and parts of central Western Ghats
Thanks Giby ji for link to Paper On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Giby ji I had heard that the genus Impatiens is getting revised.This one appears to be very latest paper. Thanks for sharing. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: I was trying to send the pdf but unfortunately, because of its larger size the paper didnt get uploaded. Please try download an interesting work by Jyosna and Janarthanam Sir (Department of Botany, Goa University, Goa) on The genus Impatiens (Balsaminaceae) in the northern and parts of central Western Ghats Thanks to Rheedea, Jyosna and Janarthanam sir for this wonderful work. Link for the article http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea21_23-80.pdf Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 11:54, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: I would like to share another interesting and nicely done work. Thanks to Rheedea Jyosna and Janarthanam sir. Regards Giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89740] Re: Flora of Chakrata: Ipomoea hederifolia near Kalsi on Kalsi Chakrata Road
Thanks Ritesh Ji and Gurcharan Ji and Dinesh ji for solving the confusion On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Ritesh ji Your plant seems true I. coccinea (=I. rubriflora), but then there is lot of confusion in literature especially on the net. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary ritesh@gmail.com wrote: And interestinglyFlora of Korea reports I. hederifolia as the cultivated species in Korea. There is no mention of I. coccina or I. rubriflora. Another Korean weed-flora mentions I. cholulensis with the photo of similar looking plant. The above fotos were taken at Daejeon, S. Korea. Regards, Ritesh. -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89742] Delphinium roylei from Dachhigam, Kashmir
Really Royal set of Pics Sir On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: *Delphinium roylei* Munz, J. Arnold Arbor. 48: 292 1967 syn: *Delphinium* *incanum* Royle Perennial herb up to 1 m tall, simple or slightly branched above; lower leaves with up to 10 cm long petioles, blade 5-8 cm broad, deeply palmately divided into 2-3 mm broad lobes, upper leaves shortly stalked to subsessile; Inflorescence a terminal raceme with some times few lateral racemes; bracts linear, 6-9 mm long, pedicel up to 2.5 cm long, curved at apex; bracteoles 2-3 mm long near base; sepals deep blue with about 15-18 mm long spur, nearly cylindrical and straight; upper petals pale coloured, lower darker; follicles 3, pubescent, 10-15 mm long. Photographed from Dachhigam sanctuary, Kashmir in July, 2011 -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89743] Water Hyacinth
*Eichhornia crassipes* * * On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Shantanu Bhattacharya shnt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi this lovely mauve flower of the water hyacinth was spotted today morning while birding in the Kalikapur wetlands of Kolkata. Happy Dewali Shantanu. -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89744] And now Pandorea jasminoides from California
Beaytiful Catch Sir On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Pandorea jasminoides (Lind.) K. Schum. syn: *Tecoma jasminoides* Lindl. Common names: Bower plant With another plant uploaded today Mohan ji and finally identified as Podranea ricassoliana through a very interesting thread in which the inputs by several experts slowly built up the progress within few hours, I was reminded of similar named plant I had photographed in California. The two genera are not only close in names, but in characters also and can be separated as under *Pandorea:* Fruit short oblong, less than 10 cm long, calyx not inflated *Podranea:* Fruit long linear, longer than 20 cm, calyx inflated. I am uploading Pandorea jasminoides photographed from California a woody vine with 5-9 leaflets, entire, glabrous, some times variegated in cv. 'Variegata'; flowers white or tinged with pink, darker pink in throat; 4-5 cm long, in few-flowered panicles, limb spreading with crenate lobes; fruit 6-10 cm long, pointed. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:89745] Re: Drosera burmanii 251011PD 01 Flora of Orissa
Dear Yadzy: I already said its a nice picture? did he tell you that? how do you know? I was not suggesting lack of english ! you brought it up... sorry i asked.. its a scientific question... if asking scientific questions is not allowed, say so... Please so I may know what to ask? thanks... usha di === On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: He means captured Usha di, Not all of us are good in English. It is a beautiful picture. To us, I am sure that is good enough. Sometimes, we may find it difficult to comprehend, but if we are insensitive, someone may feel belittled. Nice picture Prasad ji. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Ushadi micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: Nice picture... what is collected?? is it the plant that you collected for herbarium or your lab? just photographed? I am nor sure what collected means.. please tell me... thanks Usha di = On Oct 25, 11:44 am, prasad dash prasad.dash2...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks Pravirji Regards Prasad On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Pravir Deshmukh prav...@gmail.com wrote: Thnaks for sharing such nice photo and plant -- Prasad Kumar Dash Ecologist, Orissa, India email: prasad.dash2...@gmail.com ph. 09437444241
[efloraofindia:89746] Re: 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
Dear Dinesjh ji, Wishing you and your family A Happy, Healthy and Safe Diwali. Beautiful card with all the members. Trying to find my name unless you have converted it to a short one. Regards, Aarti On Oct 24, 10:53 pm, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may Viewhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jp...OR Downloadhttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jp...high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh eFI_Deepavali.jpg 209KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:89747] Re: When I lost my chocolate bet !!
Dear Pankaj ji, A beautiful card. Wishing you A Happy, Healthy Safe Diwali. Thanks for your wishes. Aarti On Oct 24, 3:44 pm, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: This is very much away from the topic but you all may like to learn the lesson which I learnt that day. Long back during my school days, frankly speaking I was too poor in maths and physics. I dont hesitate to say that I still am. I was being taught Newtons Laws of Gravity and one very interesting thing that ACCELERATION DUE TO GRAVITY IS INDEPENDENT OF MASS. We used to live in a two storeyed building. I (in 11th standard) was standing on the roof and had a young kid from neighborhood was there. He might be in 2nd or 3rd standard. Just to impress him I took one small pebble and a small wood in my hand. And leaned over the railing and asked the kid, which will reach the ground first. He said. pebble. I said, what if do a magic and make them reach at the same time. He said, thats impossible. I said, I can show you. He said, you should first put a bet for a chocolate. I said, ok. So just as I was about to drop it, he said, bhaiya, wo hawa me ud jayega samjha karo (literally meaning, wood will get blown in air, you should understand that). But by the time I realised the mistake, I had already lost the bet. So whats the moral of the story? WE SHOULD NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE CAPABILITIES OF OTHERS. This group has people from different parts of India and abroad with different professional backgrounds and different culture and way of living too. We are here to learn from each other and gain more knowledge and more expertise on Indian plants. This is a source of knowledge which all of us are seeking and nothing else. But gradually this group has become like an institution and even like a family. More than 95% of the people dont know each other personally but yet they are connected, trying to help each other selflessly. I always tell my students that a botanist is not the one who studies botany, but the one who loves plant and a taxonomist is not the one who reads books of taxonomy. A taxonomist is the one who knows how to differentiate things. A kid, the first word he says, MUMMY makes him of her a taxonomist (not plant taxonomist though) because due to some physical characteristics he is able to differentiate mom and dad and then he or she gradually starts recognising more and more people around, hence he deserves to be called a taxonomist. We should always respect this selfless group who adores every one and wants to spread its knowledge to everyone too. Every person's understanding of plants is different, but its all science and we all are learning that part of science.called plant science (botany) as well as the mode of communication which comes as a bonus. With this bonus in mind, I wish you all a very Happy Dhanteras and a very Happy and Prosperous Deepawali. Long live eflora!!! Long live our institution!!! Of course, LONG LIVE PLANTS!!! Regards Pankaj -- ** Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !! Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org sahanipan...@gmail.com pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 9436 6251 (mobile) HAPPY DEEPAWALI.jpg 846KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:89748] uttarakhand uid1 19102011
thannks Balkarji On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Sir On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Can I say Welcome back Balkar ji? -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Nice One Amit Ji Agree with *Orthosiphon aristatus* On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:30 PM, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Prabhuji for confirming the. I will go with Orthosiphon aristatus regards On 10/19/11, Prabhu kumar KM prabhumkris...@gmail.com wrote: Please check with *Orthosiphon aristatus* -- *Prabhu Kumar K M* Scientist Plant Systematics Genetic Resources Division Centre for Medicinal Plant Research (CMPR) 'CMPR' Herbarium Kottakkal Arya Vaidya Sala Kottakkal, Malappuram *E-mail: prabhumkris...@gmail.com* -- Dr. Amit Chauhan Junior Technical Assistant Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre, Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand 263149 ph.05944 234445 mob.+919412161087 mail: amitci...@gmail.com amitci...@rediffmail.com amit.chau...@cimap.res.in -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Dr. Amit Chauhan Junior Technical Assistant Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre, Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand 263149 ph.05944 234445 mob.+919412161087 mail: amitci...@gmail.com amitci...@rediffmail.com amit.chau...@cimap.res.in
Re: [efloraofindia:89749] Oxytropis sp. from Ladakh- 231011-PKA2
Yes Oxytropis lapponica ! regards On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes looks like Oxytropis lapponica -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Madhuri Raut itii...@gmail.com wrote: very beautiful what colors thanks for sharing Regards Bhagyashri On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Friends, Seen this Oxytropis sp. near Tsokar lake, Ladakh. Date/Time: 13-09-2011 / 11:45AM Location: near Tsokar Lake, Ladakh, (Altitude: approx. 15300ft). Habitat: Wild Plant habit: Herb Family: Fabaceae Regards Prashant -- Dr. Amit Chauhan Junior Technical Assistant Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre, Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand 263149 ph.05944 234445 mob.+919412161087 mail: amitci...@gmail.com amitci...@rediffmail.com amit.chau...@cimap.res.in
Re: [efloraofindia:89750] Re: Plant for ID : Dec 2009 Kochi SMP1
Thanks Usha di and Giby ji Usha di thanks for your suggestions which made me study further similar to that in medicine where one gives a differential diagnosis and then we have to study hard to fix it nearer to one diagnosis if things are not very clear. Otherwise one blindly accepts it if only one diagnosis is there. Thanks Yazdi ji for telling me the difference(Colour) which I thought as insignificant but may sometimes prove significant. Thanks Giby ji for a very important point to stress. Yes Melochia is supposed to be introduced species and now growing like a weed. I snincerely ask all members to give their frank opinion to make discussions rolling like this one Regards On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:00 PM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: @ Dear Satish: The write up is wonderful.. detailed... thank you , would take a while before I get back to you.. houseful of guests for about 10 days, then I'll have to rest..ha ha... Yes.. I know you and Neil are physicians, that's why I ventured, otherwise god knows how people would react to my asking such pointed questions... and my analogy to gross diagnosis ... I also know., you and Neil are both serious students of botany..already.. and I am just beginning , another reason for venturing... @ Dear Yadzy: when I look thing up and compare study.. you'll be in the loop.. @ GIby: thanks... will keep that in mind.. Usha di === On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Giby Ji. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: The plant posted by Satish ji and the one posted by Neilji (link provided by Ushadi ji) are the same species. This species is distributed widely and place to place it shows variations in color, leaf shape and etc. Sometimes huge variations such as cordate to round leaf base in some places, the leaves are slightly lobed as well. Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 16:00, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: I think Ushadi may be right. The colour of the petiole in the pictures of Satish Phadke is red or purple whereas that of the shrubs in Neil's pictures both sets is green. To a lay person, this is the most obvious. This though is the observation of a novice. The edges of the leaves also seem to be slightly different. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Usha di Melochia corchorifolia Though I have said that there are differences in both, the characters remain completely the same which I will enumerate further. No two plants can be perfectly same. One has to conclude according to matching characters which you also agree. The characters for the said plant which I checked from BSI flora are as follows. Some characters which can't be seen but I know because I have seen the plant.(Esp. regarding sizes which can't be shown here) Herbs upto 1m tall.Fitting. Leaves 2.5-6.3bye 0.6-4.0cm, ovate oblong sometimes obscurely 3 lobed.fitting. glabrous or with a few scattered stellate hairs, apex acute,base acute obtuse or truncatefitting Margins serrate...fitting. Flowers 1cm across fitting. in terminal densely crowded clustersfitting perfectly. Capsule depressed, globose, hispid(Covered with stiff hair;bristly)...fitting Seeds angled,mottled black grey..Not seen here...(Limitation). Still I may be completely wrong in identifying my plant. You said the differences are major. If you can tell me the differences in characters please let me know so that I can study further. Or if there is a scenario that you know of any other plant with above listed characters which may be possible please let me know so that I can check my notes again. Incidently myself and Neil ji are also medical doctors who will not come to diagnosis only from the gross features. Regards Dr Satish On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:24 AM, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote: gosh... those are the major differences to me they do not look the same... IN a A BIGGER PICTURE of the world of FLORA: that's my GLOBAL point... ID based on a single photograph and just matching to something published in pictorial only... is not good... that's why taxonomic features and its relevant vocabulary knowledge is necessary... where features can be judged, identified, and compared ... and ID of the plant arrived at... MOST OF INCLUDING YOURS TRULY is often guilty of just matching up the pictures and forming a visual impression... AKIN to something like the GROSS diagnosis in Medicine not scientific... YOUR PIC and Neil's may be the same but to my eye looking only grossly they seem a bit different... you think they are the same
Re: [efloraofindia:89751] 25102011-BS-1 Ocimum sp for id from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar
Balkarji looks like O. tenuiflorum Shyama tulsi regards On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:02 AM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Ocimum from TDL Herbal Park Yamunanagar (280 mts) This shrub was about 4 feet high with strong fragrance. leaves large than usual O. sanctum Cultivated their as medicinal plant pls id -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Dr. Amit Chauhan Junior Technical Assistant Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre, Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand 263149 ph.05944 234445 mob.+919412161087 mail: amitci...@gmail.com amitci...@rediffmail.com amit.chau...@cimap.res.in
[efloraofindia:89752] Happy Diwali
Wishing all the eflora group members a very happy and prosperous Diwali..play safe with fire works.Happy Diwali regards -- Dr. Amit Chauhan Junior Technical Assistant Central Institute of Medicinal and Aromatic Plants, Research Centre, Pantnagar, PO Dairy Farm Nagla, Pantnagar, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand 263149 ph.05944 234445 mob.+919412161087 mail: amitci...@gmail.com amitci...@rediffmail.com amit.chau...@cimap.res.in
[efloraofindia:89755] Re: 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
Many thanks for the wishes Aarti ji. Your name did not get into my list. I got it from eFI member list; the entire list has many parameters, among which for example: email status shown bouncing has quite a few members. I ignored that bouncing lot based on glance through. Most of them are the spam-based email IDs. Now that you pointed, I find your email ID with bouncing status, there could be many others similarly. Not sure what the status means. It gets set automatically when the email sent by the Google Group to a email ID bounces. Not sure of how and why. Thus there are few members whose names did not get to my artwork. I did not type them manually. But that should not be a matter of regret OR any analysis. My wishes remain the same to all those whose names may not be found. Wishing you Aarti ji and your family the best of the festive season. Regards. Dinesh On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Dinesjh ji, Wishing you and your family A Happy, Healthy and Safe Diwali. Beautiful card with all the members. Trying to find my name unless you have converted it to a short one. Regards, Aarti On Oct 24, 10:53 pm, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may View https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jp.. .OR Download https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jp.. .high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh eFI_Deepavali.jpg 209KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:89755] Plant for ID : Nasik : 251011 : AK-1
*Curcuma *sp. of Zingiberaceae family. Regards Giby On 25 October 2011 19:00, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote: A plant growing at a private farm at Nasik, Maharashtra. Picture taken on the 24 th of August,11. Was told it is some medicinal plant. Leaves resembled that of Curcuma sp. No flowers or fruits seen. Probably Neil ji can help. Aarti -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
[efloraofindia:89758] Re: 1735 wishes of Deepavali to efloraofindia !!
No problem Dinesh ji. I know your wishes are always there for me. Just thought I should point it out. Or else, finding my name should have been easy...in the first row you see! Why this problem about my email and how to rectify it...I really wouldn't know. Is it possiblle some mails from the group don't reach me? Regards, Aarti On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Many thanks for the wishes Aarti ji. Your name did not get into my list. I got it from eFI member list; the entire list has many parameters, among which for example: email status shown bouncing has quite a few members. I ignored that bouncing lot based on glance through. Most of them are the spam-based email IDs. Now that you pointed, I find your email ID with bouncing status, there could be many others similarly. Not sure what the status means. It gets set automatically when the email sent by the Google Group to a email ID bounces. Not sure of how and why. Thus there are few members whose names did not get to my artwork. I did not type them manually. But that should not be a matter of regret OR any analysis. My wishes remain the same to all those whose names may not be found. Wishing you Aarti ji and your family the best of the festive season. Regards. Dinesh On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Dinesjh ji, Wishing you and your family A Happy, Healthy and Safe Diwali. Beautiful card with all the members. Trying to find my name unless you have converted it to a short one. Regards, Aarti On Oct 24, 10:53 pm, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Wishing you all and your families a very Happy Deepavali. Below picture is a place in Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park). [image: Season's Greetings to eFI !] *Those unable to view this embedded picture, may view the attached picture.* You may View https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jp.. .OR Download https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/files/Greetings_to_eFI.jp.. .high resolution image (about 6 MB) Regards. Dinesh eFI_Deepavali.jpg 209KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:89759] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
Samir ji I agree with your points. Initially I thought how come your plant * L.prostarta* is erect but later I read the description which states that the plant is semierect. Giby ji I can't comment on the number of stamens from my images as the stigma is large similar to one in illustrations which is concealing the stamens in Samirji's pictures too.Sorry. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the appreciative remark. Working on stamen number in existing images; Will appreciate knowing whether you (or any other group member) concur with id minus the stamen number. Regards, Samir On Oct 25, 10:31 am, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work and great effort! Would you please mention the number of stamens in your plant? Thanks and Regards, Giby On 24 October 2011 18:56, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89760] Plant for ID : Nasik : 251011 : AK-1
Thanks Giby ji for a possible id. I too thought the leaves looked as that of some Curcuma. Haven't come across leaves with that dark line earlier. Regards, Aarti On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: *Curcuma *sp. of Zingiberaceae family. Regards Giby On 25 October 2011 19:00, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote: A plant growing at a private farm at Nasik, Maharashtra. Picture taken on the 24 th of August,11. Was told it is some medicinal plant. Leaves resembled that of Curcuma sp. No flowers or fruits seen. Probably Neil ji can help. Aarti -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
[efloraofindia:89761] Re: Garden Climber for ID : Srinagar : 251011 : AK-3
I hope Clematis viticella -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: A small vine found at Mughal Gardens Shalimar, Srinagar on the 10th of Sept,11. Having a single purple flower. To me it looks like Purple Clematis. Kindly validate. Aarti
Re: [efloraofindia:89762] Delphinium roylei from Dachhigam, Kashmir
Very nice set of pictures :( A Delphinium plant species from Western ghats is blooming on Purandar fort near Pune but even I have not yet observed it On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: *Delphinium roylei* Munz, J. Arnold Arbor. 48: 292 1967 syn: *Delphinium* *incanum* Royle Perennial herb up to 1 m tall, simple or slightly branched above; lower leaves with up to 10 cm long petioles, blade 5-8 cm broad, deeply palmately divided into 2-3 mm broad lobes, upper leaves shortly stalked to subsessile; Inflorescence a terminal raceme with some times few lateral racemes; bracts linear, 6-9 mm long, pedicel up to 2.5 cm long, curved at apex; bracteoles 2-3 mm long near base; sepals deep blue with about 15-18 mm long spur, nearly cylindrical and straight; upper petals pale coloured, lower darker; follicles 3, pubescent, 10-15 mm long. Photographed from Dachhigam sanctuary, Kashmir in July, 2011 -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89763] Water Hyacinth
Yes the flowers are really beautiful On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Shantanu Bhattacharya shnt...@gmail.comwrote: Hi this lovely mauve flower of the water hyacinth was spotted today morning while birding in the Kalikapur wetlands of Kolkata. Happy Dewali Shantanu. -- Dr Satish Phadke
[efloraofindia:89763] Re: Garden Climber for ID : Srinagar : 251011 : AK-3
Thanks Sir ji for the id. Wishing you and your family A Happy,Healthy Peaceful Safe Diwali. Aarti On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: I hope Clematis viticella -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: A small vine found at Mughal Gardens Shalimar, Srinagar on the 10th of Sept,11. Having a single purple flower. To me it looks like Purple Clematis. Kindly validate. Aarti
Re: [efloraofindia:89765] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
Whenever you happen see this plant next, please count the number of stamens by *dissecting the flowers*. Number of stamens is crucial in confirming the id. It is just impossible to count the number of stamens from pictures because they are almost adhered to the pistil (surrounding). I had to sacrifice 4 flowers to get the actual count of stamens that I would upload later. Still processing the id. I am still waiting for the number of stamens in this plant if the number of stamens is not 4 in this plant then this is not *L. prostrata*. Thanks and Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 19:15, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Samir ji I agree with your points. Initially I thought how come your plant * L.prostarta* is erect but later I read the description which states that the plant is semierect. Giby ji I can't comment on the number of stamens from my images as the stigma is large similar to one in illustrations which is concealing the stamens in Samirji's pictures too.Sorry. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for the appreciative remark. Working on stamen number in existing images; Will appreciate knowing whether you (or any other group member) concur with id minus the stamen number. Regards, Samir On Oct 25, 10:31 am, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work and great effort! Would you please mention the number of stamens in your plant? Thanks and Regards, Giby On 24 October 2011 18:56, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
Re: [efloraofindia:89766] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
BTW my plant also seems to have winged stem at least not cylindrical. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Whenever you happen see this plant next, please count the number of stamens by *dissecting the flowers*. Number of stamens is crucial in confirming the id. It is just impossible to count the number of stamens from pictures because they are almost adhered to the pistil (surrounding). I had to sacrifice 4 flowers to get the actual count of stamens that I would upload later. Still processing the id. I am still waiting for the number of stamens in this plant if the number of stamens is not 4 in this plant then this is not *L. prostrata*. Thanks and Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 19:15, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Samir ji I agree with your points. Initially I thought how come your plant * L.prostarta* is erect but later I read the description which states that the plant is semierect. Giby ji I can't comment on the number of stamens from my images as the stigma is large similar to one in illustrations which is concealing the stamens in Samirji's pictures too.Sorry. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for the appreciative remark. Working on stamen number in existing images; Will appreciate knowing whether you (or any other group member) concur with id minus the stamen number. Regards, Samir On Oct 25, 10:31 am, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work and great effort! Would you please mention the number of stamens in your plant? Thanks and Regards, Giby On 24 October 2011 18:56, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89767] Re: Ludwigia prostrata @ Mumbai
There is *L. decurrens *with 4-winged stem with 8 stamens and here we have*L. prostrata *, again 4-winged stem but with 4 stamens so what determines the species here? Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 19:24, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: BTW my plant also seems to have winged stem at least not cylindrical. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote: Whenever you happen see this plant next, please count the number of stamens by *dissecting the flowers*. Number of stamens is crucial in confirming the id. It is just impossible to count the number of stamens from pictures because they are almost adhered to the pistil (surrounding). I had to sacrifice 4 flowers to get the actual count of stamens that I would upload later. Still processing the id. I am still waiting for the number of stamens in this plant if the number of stamens is not 4 in this plant then this is not *L. prostrata*. Thanks and Regards, Giby On 25 October 2011 19:15, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: Samir ji I agree with your points. Initially I thought how come your plant * L.prostarta* is erect but later I read the description which states that the plant is semierect. Giby ji I can't comment on the number of stamens from my images as the stigma is large similar to one in illustrations which is concealing the stamens in Samirji's pictures too.Sorry. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for the appreciative remark. Working on stamen number in existing images; Will appreciate knowing whether you (or any other group member) concur with id minus the stamen number. Regards, Samir On Oct 25, 10:31 am, Giby Kuriakose giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Nice work and great effort! Would you please mention the number of stamens in your plant? Thanks and Regards, Giby On 24 October 2011 18:56, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Fellow Group-members, I have identified the images posted as being Ludwigia prostrata following the keys in Rheedea Vol. 20 (1) 59-70 2010. Reference is available in thread 'efloraofindia:89073'. Must mention that the keys in Flora of China and Flora of Maharashtra are different but Rheeda reference is most recent India specific. Flora of Maharashtra does not mention this species so am not sure whether it is documented in Maharashtra. Here's my brief explanation for the id: - Plant erect. (-894) - Stem winged (-896), well branched herbaceous throughout. - Stem and leaves glabrous. - Flower (-900): sepals 4, petals 4; sepal size 4-5mm, almost similar for petals also; - Capsule: as seen (-909) - Capsule and seeds (-903): as seen [uniseriate: arrangement of seeds in a single row] Numbers in brackets above are the last three digits of the respective images. Ruled out L. perennis as stem and branches were winged. Ruled out L. linifolia as stem not woody at base. Will be happy to visit the site again / or provide additional information, if required. Happy Diwali, Samir Mehta -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby -- Dr Satish Phadke -- GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), Royal Enclave, Jakkur Post, Srirampura Bangalore- 560064 India Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby
[efloraofindia:89769] Re: PLANT FOR ID 170 SMP NOV 2009
Gurcharan ji Sorry to reply late as this was lying in my other email ID. I don't have any other picture which shows better details of flower leaf or other characters. Sorry. I haven' had a chance to read your detailed info about Acmellas but surely read it some time Regards On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Satish ji Do you have more photographs of this plant uploaded by you on Nov. 16, 2009 which I had identified as Acmella paniculata. This should add to our Acmella collection Gurcharan Singh On Nov 16 2009, 8:06 pm, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com wrote: Are these full flowers or the petals have been shed? I am in doubt Mahabaleshwar Nov 2009 Satish DSCN3398s.jpg 142KViewDownload -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89770] Happy Diwali
Many thanks Madhusudhana Reddy ji, Wish you and your family A Happy Diwali. Regards Yazdy. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Madhusudhana Reddy grass...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all fine i wish you happy Diwali thanking you Madhu
Re: [efloraofindia:89780] Fwd: PLANT FOR ID 125 SMP JUN 09 Lahaul Spiti
I think *Psychrogeton andryaloides is the closest match* * * * * -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote: Forwarding again -- Forwarded message -- From: satish phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:49 PM Subject: PLANT FOR ID 125 SMP JUN 09 Lahaul Spiti To: indiantreepix Indian indiantreepix@googlegroups.com This Asteraceae family member was observed in Spiti valley. Searching Flowers of the Himalaya following IDs appear to be possible *Erigeron multiradiatus Psychrogeton andryaloides*( said to be found in Lahaul) of course I understand that features are not clear just looking at the picture(esp of this quality) Satish Phadke -- http:// satishphadke.blogspot.com -- Dr Satish Phadke
Re: [efloraofindia:89782] SYMBIOSIS 71
I hope Tecoma castanifolia -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Col Bimal Sarkar colbimalsar...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear Friend, Attaching the 71st member of the series.Here a Grey Pansy butterfly is on Tecoma flower.I saw this flower in the wild in Pachmarhi. Regards Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar Mobile: 9434194942
Re: [efloraofindia:89783] Fwd: PLANT FOR ID 125 SMP JUN 09 Lahaul Spiti
Thanks a lot Gurcharan ji I understand ; it is difficult to name with minimal visible characters. But it feels good with the experienced suggestions from you. On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: I think *Psychrogeton andryaloides is the closest match* * * * * -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Satish Phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.comwrote: Forwarding again -- Forwarded message -- From: satish phadke phadke.sat...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:49 PM Subject: PLANT FOR ID 125 SMP JUN 09 Lahaul Spiti To: indiantreepix Indian indiantreepix@googlegroups.com This Asteraceae family member was observed in Spiti valley. Searching Flowers of the Himalaya following IDs appear to be possible *Erigeron multiradiatus Psychrogeton andryaloides*( said to be found in Lahaul) of course I understand that features are not clear just looking at the picture(esp of this quality) Satish Phadke -- http:// satishphadke.blogspot.com -- Dr Satish Phadke -- Dr Satish Phadke
