[JAWS-Users] Re: request
There's no need to discuss it off list at all. In fact I would find it interesting myself to learn about the thing. David Ferrin I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JAWS Users jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] request Is anyone here using windows live one care with a home network? If so please contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] What does bullet mean?
I have noticed the word bullet alot in things that I have been reading. I have always heard that, but never knew what it meant. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me? See ya, Scooter Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
It's nothing more then a graphic character that sited folks use to make something stand out such as in a list view. David Ferrin I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JAWS-Users jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:34 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] What does bullet mean? I have noticed the word bullet alot in things that I have been reading. I have always heard that, but never knew what it meant. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me? See ya, Scooter Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Unwanted Windows Installer for Word
I have done nothing different, as far as I know. If I did, I am unaware of causing this problem. I cannot open any Word document because I am told that the Windows Installer cannot begin. Click okay and close all dialog boxes to continue. I want no part of any installation of anything. Word and its Documents were working just fine until very recently. Now, I need to open a Word Document and I cannot. What can I do to get rid of this Windows Installer so I can again open Word Documents as in the past? All ideas and expertise are greatly appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Hey David, Sometimes it says bullet link. Does that mean that they are trying to indicate that it is an important link or something? See ya, Scooter Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? It's nothing more then a graphic character that sited folks use to make something stand out such as in a list view. David Ferrin I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JAWS-Users jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:34 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] What does bullet mean? I have noticed the word bullet alot in things that I have been reading. I have always heard that, but never knew what it meant. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me? See ya, Scooter Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: Unwanted Windows Installer for Word
I had a client that this happened to a short time ago. The only thing that we could do was to uninstall Office and reinstall it. Denny -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taika Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unwanted Windows Installer for Word I have done nothing different, as far as I know. If I did, I am unaware of causing this problem. I cannot open any Word document because I am told that the Windows Installer cannot begin. Click okay and close all dialog boxes to continue. I want no part of any installation of anything. Word and its Documents were working just fine until very recently. Now, I need to open a Word Document and I cannot. What can I do to get rid of this Windows Installer so I can again open Word Documents as in the past? All ideas and expertise are greatly appreciated. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: Unwanted Windows Installer for Word
Why not let the installer do its thing? It'll tell you more about itself. It must be important for some reason, or you'd be able to open the document without fuss. - Original Message - From: Taika To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unwanted Windows Installer for Word I have done nothing different, as far as I know. If I did, I am unaware of causing this problem. I cannot open any Word document because I am told that the Windows Installer cannot begin. Click okay and close all dialog boxes to continue. I want no part of any installation of anything. Word and its Documents were working just fine until very recently. Now, I need to open a Word Document and I cannot. What can I do to get rid of this Windows Installer so I can again open Word Documents as in the past? All ideas and expertise are greatly appreciated. __ NOD32 1967 (20070109) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Not necessarily an important link, but a link where the text simply includes a bullet. In HTML, you can create two types of standard lists--ordered lists and unordered lists. An ordered list has the items numbered (1. 2. 3. etc.) and is intended to be used whenever there's a process that must be performed in order--do this step first, then do the second, etc. An unordered list is simply any other kind of list and in HTML, these list items are bulleted. What you're seeing is a situation where the HTML author has placed items in an unordered list and one or more of these items are links. You probably should have heard JAWS announce that this was a list before it proceeded to read the individual items. It's unfortunate that HTML doesn't allow for a third type of standard list--a list in which the items are neither numbered nor bulleted--but it doesn't. - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Hey David, Sometimes it says bullet link. Does that mean that they are trying to indicate that it is an important link or something? See ya, Scooter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] updates to the web page
I've just added two new tutorials and also put up an older file that I had run out of space for some months ago. They are as follows: Installing the video intercept without sited help when running the portable version of JAWS. Directions for using Singe a neat little CD/DVD data disk burning program. Lastly a tutorial for using Winamp by Blake Roberts. Also I've just added Disk Keeper Light to the programs page. I hope that folks will be able to make some use out of these new additions. David Ferrin I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Short for 'bullet point'. you get the idea. - Original Message - From: Donnie Parrett To: JAWS-Users Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] What does bullet mean? I have noticed the word bullet alot in things that I have been reading. I have always heard that, but never knew what it meant. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me? See ya, Scooter Contact me at: Donnie Parrett 1956 Asa Flat Road Annville, KY 40402 Home # 606-364-3321 Cell # 606-438-2557 Church # 606-364-PRAY Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ NOD32 1966 (20070109) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Okay, we have a good idea of what a bullet is. Now the question is, why are they used. Bullet marks -- or any non-ordering item identifier -- are extremely visual devices to indicate that a new item in a list is following. Identifiers such as numbers or letters might indicate some sense of priority while a bullet simply says here's another list item among equals. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Never mind what others do; do better than yourself, beat your own record from day to day, and you are a success. - William J. H. Boetcker --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: Unwanted Windows Installer for Word
Hi! It would not install anything and just sat on an okay button. It was hopeless, but luckily it has been repaired now and hopefully that won't happen again anytime soon. - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: Unwanted Windows Installer for Word Why not let the installer do its thing? It'll tell you more about itself. It must be important for some reason, or you'd be able to open the document without fuss. - Original Message - From: Taika To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unwanted Windows Installer for Word I have done nothing different, as far as I know. If I did, I am unaware of causing this problem. I cannot open any Word document because I am told that the Windows Installer cannot begin. Click okay and close all dialog boxes to continue. I want no part of any installation of anything. Word and its Documents were working just fine until very recently. Now, I need to open a Word Document and I cannot. What can I do to get rid of this Windows Installer so I can again open Word Documents as in the past? All ideas and expertise are greatly appreciated. __ NOD32 1967 (20070109) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Hi Bill, I used bullet's when writing stories for my friends. it helps me keep track of paragraph's. Nan - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Okay, we have a good idea of what a bullet is. Now the question is, why are they used. Bullet marks -- or any non-ordering item identifier -- are extremely visual devices to indicate that a new item in a list is following. Identifiers such as numbers or letters might indicate some sense of priority while a bullet simply says here's another list item among equals. Bill Gallik E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Never mind what others do; do better than yourself, beat your own record from day to day, and you are a success. - William J. H. Boetcker -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/619 - Release Date: 1/7/2007 6:29 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] jaws loosing fokis in OE
hello all. I posted this question a few days back but didn't get any ancer so I thought I would re post it. what is happening is that some times when I am in OE jaws will loose focus and say top of window and boddem of window when I am arrowing through messages. after un loading and then re loading jaws it seems to be fine. I am using jaws 7.0 and windows xp. this will some times happen a few times though. I am wondering what if anything I can do about this? also I have found that after I press alt m to get the messages from the server jaws will say somethinglike the requested tasks were completed successfully progress bar 0 percent hide button to activate press space bar. then when I press space bar it go's right back in my in box. is there a way to download the messages from the server using control m or what ever it is and then have jaws go right in to the in box with out bringing up that message every time? many thanks for all your help that some one can give me with this madder. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Which is why I said that it's unfortunate that HTML doesn't have a list format that doesn't use them. As an old author of user documentation, I find it especially objectionable on web pages to not have what we used to call simple lists; that is, lists with no highlighting or emphasis on the individual items. They're merely attention-grabbers for sighted readers and in the spirit of informing the blind user of everything that a sighted reader would see, they're announced. My guess; and it's just that; is that in HTML, there's no easy way to indicate that something is a list as opposed to continuing text, so they're used. - Original Message - From: Bill Gallik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Okay, we have a good idea of what a bullet is. Now the question is, why are they used. Bullet marks -- or any non-ordering item identifier -- are extremely visual devices to indicate that a new item in a list is following. Identifiers such as numbers or letters might indicate some sense of priority while a bullet simply says here's another list item among equals. Bill Gallik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] JAWS scripts for super dvd creator
Hi, Are there any JAWS scripts for super dvd creator? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Walt Smith wrote: It's unfortunate that HTML doesn't allow for a third type of standard list--a list in which the items are neither numbered nor bulleted--but it doesn't. Out of interest, what would your third sort type of list use instead of numbers or bullets? -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] UPDATE, I WILL NOT BE FORWARDING ANY MORE MESSAGES WITH ATTACHMENTS!!!
Hi Everyone; Just an update. As of today, I will not be forwarding any e-mails with attachments. People are very particular today about what they receive in there e-mail and, how much mail they receive. Also, viruses and hoaxes and spyware and malware are getting more and more sophisticated every day. I hope all of you understand. Talk to you soon. Anthony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Nothing. You'd see something like the following: Here is a list: List item 1 List item 2 List item 3 Note that the three items are indented in the above example. When I worked at IBM and wrote manuals there, we used a fairly nice document composer that used tags very much like HTML (in fact, this application was the template on which HTML was originally designed). It had three types of lists: ordered, unordered, and simple. - Original Message - From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Out of interest, what would your third sort type of list use instead of numbers or bullets? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Isn't this the purpose of the Definition List in HTML? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Nothing. You'd see something like the following: Here is a list: List item 1 List item 2 List item 3 Note that the three items are indented in the above example. When I worked at IBM and wrote manuals there, we used a fairly nice document composer that used tags very much like HTML (in fact, this application was the template on which HTML was originally designed). It had three types of lists: ordered, unordered, and simple. - Original Message - From: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Out of interest, what would your third sort type of list use instead of numbers or bullets? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: JAWS scripts for super dvd creator
I've never heard of this program and can just about guarantee you that there are no such scripts. You can search for JAWS scripts by doing a Google search. Enclose the program name inside quotation marks and then also add the two words JAWS and script to the search string. For example, for the program you mention here, use something like: super dvd creator jaws script You need to be sure that you have the program name exactly correct--that is, with any spaces that are either included or not in the program name. - Original Message - From: Vy Pham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS scripts for super dvd creator Hi, Are there any JAWS scripts for super dvd creator? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Absolutely not and people misuse the definition list all the time. The purpose of the definition list is just that--to provide definitions in a glossary. The tags in the definition list are dd:, which is the data definition tag; and the dl: tag, which is the list item, itself. What you will often see is people using the dl: tag for the item they want shown as a list item and then, leaving the dd: tag empty, but this is _not_ correct use of the definition list tag. - Original Message - From: Roberts, Vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean? Isn't this the purpose of the Definition List in HTML? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
Having never installed an item to the OE toolbar, I'm not sure what you're experiencing. Can you give an example? If you remember, we had that discussion here a month or two back about that spam filtering program you were using and I mentioned that it would not respect the same item, so I'm thinking it's that. - Original Message - From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws users list jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] trouble with a tool bar Hello all. This has hapened wice O I'm hoping it is not a jaws issue. Everytime I install an item on to the tool bar withoutlook express it shows my read messages everytime I hide them. is there a way for this to stop? I keep checking the hide read messages option but it doesn't stick. help! Thanks. Hopefully this is not a jaws issue because if it is I'll be livid! TC all. Sarah Alawami --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
I unstalled that spam toolbar. OK. an example. if my inbix showes 12 unread and one readfor a total of 13 messages, and this item is on the toolbar, outlook express will show 13 messages 0 unread but when i hide the read messages it will show one unread. Now when I go back to the inbox it will show the read messages and I have to go to view and hide read messages again and again and again. Having never installed an item to the OE toolbar, I'm not sure what you're experiencing. Can you give an example? If you remember, we had that discussion here a month or two back about that spam filtering program you were using and I mentioned that it would not respect the same item, so I'm thinking it's that. - Original Message - From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws users list jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] trouble with a tool bar Hello all. This has hapened wice O I'm hoping it is not a jaws issue. Everytime I install an item on to the tool bar withoutlook express it shows my read messages everytime I hide them. is there a way for this to stop? I keep checking the hide read messages option but it doesn't stick. help! Thanks. Hopefully this is not a jaws issue because if it is I'll be livid! TC all. Sarah Alawami --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: What does bullet mean?
Walt Smith, How would you like talking browsers or screen readers to read items in an indented list of the sort you suggest? How would users of such software know that they are equal items in a list, where the list begins and ends, where sub-lists begin and end, and so forth? I'm just trying to get a clearer idea of what you mean. Technically speaking, most the bullet lists you find on the web are not implied by the HTML itself. HTML includes ordered lists and unordered lists. Graphical browsers have tended to apply a default styling of numbering ordered lists with 1, 2, 3 etc. and itemizing unordered lists with bullets. This styling was not required by the HTML specification. Legacy varieties of HTML included a technique for specifying to visual user agents the type of ordered and unordered lists, choosing from disc, circle, square for different shapes of bullet, and arabic numbers, lowercase alphabetic, uppercase alphabetic, lowercase Roman numerals, and uppercase Roman numerals for different types of numbering. Such presentational hints are not in wide use, and new versions relegate such information to styleSheets, implying they are part of optional presentation not an essential part of content. I have long viewed the relegation of the styles for ordered lists to styleSheets as impractical, since authors may use these numbering systems to refer back to list items later in a text. If your talking browser or screen reader were to read an ordered list as 1, 2, 3, 4 but then the author were to refer back to the third item as Item C it would be confusing. I think most standards-aware authors would currently assume that replacing the bullets with no announcement would be a matter for the speech stylesheet, not for a new HTML element, so I'm interested in your suggestion. There are current at least three new versions of HTML in concurrent development: a version of XHTML 1.1 adapted for accessibility, the second version of XHTML, and a rival spec being created by WHATWG. If there is an as yet unperceived need for new type of list, now would be a good time to introduce it. What would be particularly useful is an explanation of when an author should use a bulleted list and when an unbulleted list. -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
Sarah -\ Do you mean the Toolbar or the Status Bar? I don't know how you're seeing the number of read and unread messages on the Toolbar. On the assumption that you meant the Status Bar (announced with INSERT+PgDn), I think this is working as designed. If you change it for a mail folder that you've created, that setting is retained, but the Inbox is not controlled by that setting--you have to set it separately and once you do, it _should_ stay set. I just tested this theory and it works on my system. - Original Message - From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar I unstalled that spam toolbar. OK. an example. if my inbix showes 12 unread and one readfor a total of 13 messages, and this item is on the toolbar, outlook express will show 13 messages 0 unread but when i hide the read messages it will show one unread. Now when I go back to the inbox it will show the read messages and I have to go to view and hide read messages again and again and again. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
Nope I do mean the tool bar has a lot to do with it. I'll hide trheread messages in evry folder I come to and it will still show the read messages next time i come back to it. if I uninstall the item the problem goes away. This has hapened with every tool. bar item I've installed. the tatus bar and messages are screwing up. I can record eveditnce if you want. Sarah -\ Do you mean the Toolbar or the Status Bar? I don't know how you're seeing the number of read and unread messages on the Toolbar. On the assumption that you meant the Status Bar (announced with INSERT+PgDn), I think this is working as designed. If you change it for a mail folder that you've created, that setting is retained, but the Inbox is not controlled by that setting--you have to set it separately and once you do, it _should_ stay set. I just tested this theory and it works on my system. - Original Message - From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar I unstalled that spam toolbar. OK. an example. if my inbix showes 12 unread and one readfor a total of 13 messages, and this item is on the toolbar, outlook express will show 13 messages 0 unread but when i hide the read messages it will show one unread. Now when I go back to the inbox it will show the read messages and I have to go to view and hide read messages again and again and again. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: I WILL NOT BE FORWARDING ANY MORE ATTACHMENTS!!!
Hi David; I would never forward anything to the list to begin with. I appreciate your positive attitude. I know that I want this message to serve as a learning tool for anyone who is even considering forwarding anything to this list or any list. Keep up the good work. Sincerely Anthony - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: I WILL NOT BE FORWARDING ANY MORE ATTACHMENTS!!! So far as I can remember you never have sent an attachment to this list, still that is good news never the less. Note folks: I also added that to the guide lines. If you're not familiar with them then go to the site and have a look. David Ferrin I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Anthony Vece [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] I WILL NOT BE FORWARDING ANY MORE ATTACHMENTS!!! Hi Everyone; As of this e-mail I will not be forwarding any more attachments. Viruses are getting more sophisticated and I do not want to be responsible for passing anything along. Also, their are people out there who are very particular about what mail they receive and how they receive it. Talk to you soon. Anthony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
Oh. to follow up whae I got the item in case you want to tri it is from http://www.office-addins.com/-outlook-express-addins/send-personally-for-outlookexpress.html - Original Message - From: Walt Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar Sarah -\ Do you mean the Toolbar or the Status Bar? I don't know how you're seeing the number of read and unread messages on the Toolbar. On the assumption that you meant the Status Bar (announced with INSERT+PgDn), I think this is working as designed. If you change it for a mail folder that you've created, that setting is retained, but the Inbox is not controlled by that setting--you have to set it separately and once you do, it _should_ stay set. I just tested this theory and it works on my system. - Original Message - From: Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar I unstalled that spam toolbar. OK. an example. if my inbix showes 12 unread and one readfor a total of 13 messages, and this item is on the toolbar, outlook express will show 13 messages 0 unread but when i hide the read messages it will show one unread. Now when I go back to the inbox it will show the read messages and I have to go to view and hide read messages again and again and again. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
Sarah - I suspect very strongly that this is an Outlook Express problem, not a JAWS problem. The issue seems to be that a lot of add-ins that create new Toolbar entries destroy the ability of the setting that controls the ability to see only unread messages, just as we saw with that anti spam application. The only way that I know to verify this would be to have a sighted person stand by while you open Outlook Express without JAWS running and then see if the behavior is the same as it is when JAWS is running. Since JAWS has no way of controlling what is or is not displayed in any application, I can't believe that it can possibly be a JAWS issue at all. -- Walt Smith - Clearwater, FL [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar
Hmm. I'll try posting this to a news group I'm in and see what's up. Thanks for trying. Sarah - I suspect very strongly that this is an Outlook Express problem, not a JAWS problem. The issue seems to be that a lot of add-ins that create new Toolbar entries destroy the ability of the setting that controls the ability to see only unread messages, just as we saw with that anti spam application. The only way that I know to verify this would be to have a sighted person stand by while you open Outlook Express without JAWS running and then see if the behavior is the same as it is when JAWS is running. Since JAWS has no way of controlling what is or is not displayed in any application, I can't believe that it can possibly be a JAWS issue at all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: trouble with a tool bar.I have lost my menu list in internet express, the one with file in it help.
- Original Message - From: Sarah To: jaws users list Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] trouble with a tool bar Hello all. This has hapened wice O I'm hoping it is not a jaws issue. Everytime I install an item on to the tool bar withoutlook express it shows my read messages everytime I hide them. is there a way for this to stop? I keep checking the hide read messages option but it doesn't stick. help! Thanks. Hopefully this is not a jaws issue because if it is I'll be livid! TC all. Sarah Alawami MsN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: marrie1 Website; www.marrie.org ERROR: Too much diskspace detected, Windows will generate data --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] Re: I have lost my menu list in internet express, the one with file in it help.
Sorry your message was blank. do you mean nternet explorer? - Original Message - From: Sarah To: jaws users list Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] trouble with a tool bar Hello all. This has hapened wice O I'm hoping it is not a jaws issue. Everytime I install an item on to the tool bar withoutlook express it shows my read messages everytime I hide them. is there a way for this to stop? I keep checking the hide read messages option but it doesn't stick. help! Thanks. Hopefully this is not a jaws issue because if it is I'll be livid! TC all. Sarah Alawami MsN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: marrie1 Website; www.marrie.org ERROR: Too much diskspace detected, Windows will generate data --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[JAWS-Users] A request.
Thanks David. First I can tell you that windows live one care is not easy to use with jaws. I mostly have to use the jaws cursor and sometimes I get a smaller window open in front of the main one and jaws reads fragments of lines along with what I want to hear. I have learned to filter that out. Anyway, my problem is with the firewall. The two computers on my network won't see each other if the firewall is turned on. I can turn it off and transfer to my hearts content. In fact I did that earlier today. I wonder if there is any way I can configure the firewall to allow the two computers to communicate. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list%40googlegroups.com/ Address to contact the management team: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups JAWS Users List group. To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jaws-users-list?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
