[JAWS-Users] How to replace FS mirror display drivers in device maniger?
Listers, Okay, I blew it this time I was having problems with Jaws so I uninstalled everything including the mirror display drivers in device maniger. I reinstalled Jaws at least, three times but I'm getting a message saying, some thing like, the mirror display drivers need to be repaired.So, how is that done? I've rebooted the computer as I was told by Jaws to fix the problem, but thatdidn't fix it. That too, was done several times. This is Jaws12 I'm dealing with, and I did a full repair by installing the latest build of Jaws, and still nothing!. If anyone knows how to fix this, please, tell me. Jaws isn't quite right with out those mirror drivers. Thanks to all! Carliss For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] How to replace FS mirror display drivers in device maniger?
Uninstall Jaws including shared components Update your graphics drivers Reinstall jaws Should do the trick On 25/05/2011 11:27, Carliss wrote: Listers, Okay, I blew it this time I was having problems with Jaws so I uninstalled everything including the mirror display drivers in device maniger. I reinstalled Jaws at least, three times but I'm getting a message saying, some thing like, the mirror display drivers need to be repaired.So, how is that done? I've rebooted the computer as I was told by Jaws to fix the problem, but thatdidn't fix it. That too, was done several times. This is Jaws12 I'm dealing with, and I did a full repair by installing the latest build of Jaws, and still nothing!. If anyone knows how to fix this, please, tell me. Jaws isn't quite right with out those mirror drivers. Thanks to all! Carliss For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] emoticons
Yeah, there used to be scripts for that in things like Messenger. I think you had to enable the emodicons. It would say things like smiley, sad smiley, and probably thirty or more other expressions. - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:48 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] emoticons Hi all: Just wondering, In Voice Over on the Mac I'm used to it saying Smile or wink, heart etc., when it comes across emoticons weather on chats or twitter. Any scripts that will do the same for JFW? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] jaws 12 latest update, tends to go out of focus a lot.
Hi all, I am running windows 7 on a 64 bit machine with jaws 12, latest update. Jaws seems to lose focus a lot. Sometimes when I'm just checking email, it will lose focus. It also tends to lose focus, if I am downloading something, or, it loses focus, just because. smile. Has anyone had this problem, and is there a solution? I have written FS and seen no response. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 12 latest update, tends to go out of focus a lot.
This has happened to me sometimes but I too don't know how to fix it. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 12 latest update, tends to go out of focus a lot. Hi all, I am running windows 7 on a 64 bit machine with jaws 12, latest update. Jaws seems to lose focus a lot. Sometimes when I'm just checking email, it will lose focus. It also tends to lose focus, if I am downloading something, or, it loses focus, just because. smile. Has anyone had this problem, and is there a solution? I have written FS and seen no response. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12
Hi David and Gerald, Man! I must be old! I go back before COBOL to assembly language using IBM 360/30 with 30K of storage and IBM 360/40 with 40K of storage. There were times my programs ran out of storage and it took some doing to make it fit. Everything was done with punched cards which I had to punched most of the programs myself. Those keypunch operators had a difficult time with assembly language programs. I even did some programming with the IBM 1400 series using autocoder. Anyone on the list ever wired a board for am E A M (Electronic accounting machine)? It is nice to know that I am not the only one on the list. I must be the oldest one on the list though? Old programmer never die,they just fade away. Take care. Lennie At 09:06 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at: http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 00:36 To:
Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12
Well we're an aging bunch to say the least. Either way I think some of us can give these young folks a run for their money so long as they run slowly and stop at the hospital on the way back. David Ferrin http://www.jaws-users.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lennie Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12 Hi David and Gerald, Man! I must be old! I go back before COBOL to assembly language using IBM 360/30 with 30K of storage and IBM 360/40 with 40K of storage. There were times my programs ran out of storage and it took some doing to make it fit. Everything was done with punched cards which I had to punched most of the programs myself. Those keypunch operators had a difficult time with assembly language programs. I even did some programming with the IBM 1400 series using autocoder. Anyone on the list ever wired a board for am E A M (Electronic accounting machine)? It is nice to know that I am not the only one on the list. I must be the oldest one on the list though? Old programmer never die,they just fade away. Take care. Lennie At 09:06 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to
Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12
Last time I wired one of those was in high school. Also learned ADA, FORTRAN there with COBOL. Started this talking stuff in 90 with vocaleyes and went up through them all. At 03:01 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: Hi David and Gerald, Man! I must be old! I go back before COBOL to assembly language using IBM 360/30 with 30K of storage and IBM 360/40 with 40K of storage. There were times my programs ran out of storage and it took some doing to make it fit. Everything was done with punched cards which I had to punched most of the programs myself. Those keypunch operators had a difficult time with assembly language programs. I even did some programming with the IBM 1400 series using autocoder. Anyone on the list ever wired a board for am E A M (Electronic accounting machine)? It is nice to know that I am not the only one on the list. I must be the oldest one on the list though? Old programmer never die,they just fade away. Take care. Lennie At 09:06 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used language in the .NET Framework - pronounced C Sharp), Java and C++ are 3 examples of languages that are very popular. I highly recommend you to join the blind programming list at:
Re: [JAWS-Users] emoticons
Hi Steve; Is it possible to enable emoticons or, are there scripts available to enable emoticons for XP Outlook Express? All information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much, take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Steve To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] emoticons Yeah, there used to be scripts for that in things like Messenger. I think you had to enable the emodicons. It would say things like smiley, sad smiley, and probably thirty or more other expressions. - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:48 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] emoticons Hi all: Just wondering, In Voice Over on the Mac I'm used to it saying Smile or wink, heart etc., when it comes across emoticons weather on chats or twitter. Any scripts that will do the same for JFW? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] emoticons
below is the lengthy list of imodicons lifted directly from the
Windows Live Mail dictionary file. You can type these guys into a
message, but unless they are included in the JAWS dictionary for that
program, they won't speak the translation, just the characters.
(#).Hot Sun.
(%).Handcuffs.
().Dog's head.
(*).Star.
(?).Ask Someone Later.
(@).Cat Face.
(A).Angel smiley.
(B).Beer Mug.
(C).Coffee Cup.
(D).Martini Glass.
(E).Envelope.
(F).Red Rose.
(G).Gift With Bow.
(H).smiley with sunglasses.
(I).Light Bulb.
(K).Red Lips.
(L).Red Heart.
(M).MSN Messenger Service Icon.
(N).Thumbs Down.
(O).Clock.
(P).Camera.
(S).Half Moon.
(T).Telephone Receiver.
(U).Broken Heart.
(W).Wilted rose.
(X).Girl.
(Y).Thumbs Up.
(Z).Boy.
(^).Birthday cake.
(ap).Airplane.
(au).Automobile.
(bah).Sheep.
(brb).Be Right Back smiley.
(ci).lit cigarette.
(co).Computer.
(h5).Clapping.
(ip).Island with Palm Trees.
(li).Lightning.
(mo).Money.
(mp).Mobile Phone.
(pi).Pizza.
(pl).Plate.
(r).Rainbow.
(sn).Snail.
(so).Soccer.
(st).Storm.
(tu).Turtle.
(um).Umbrella.
(xx).XBox.
(yn).Cross Your Fingers.
({).Left hug.
(||).Chop Sticks.
(}).Right hug.
(~).Film strip.
*-).Thinking smiley.
+o(.Sick smiley.
8-).Eye Rolling smiley.
8-|.Geek smiley.
8o|.Teeth bearing smiley.
:$.Embarrassed smiley.
:'(.Crying smiley.
:(.Sad smiley.
:).smiley.
:-#.Don't tell me anymore smiley.
:@.Angry smiley.
:O.smiley Says O.
:P.smiley With Tongue Out.
:S.Crooked smiley.
:[.Vampire Bat.
:^).annoyed smiley.
.:d.Open-Mouthed smiley.
:|.Stern smiley.
;).Winking smiley.
:o).Party smiley.
^o).Sarcastic smiley.
afaik.as far as I know.
afk.away from keyboard.
asl.Age/sex/location?.
b4n.bye for now.
bak.back at the keyboard.
bbiab.be back in a bit.
bbl.be back later.
bfn.bye for now.
bg.big grin.
bl.belly laughing.
brb.be right back!.
bta.but then again.
btw.by the way.
bwthdik.but what the heck do I know?.
cu.see you.
cul.see you later.
cyo.See you online.
diku.Do I know you?.
dityid.Did I tell you I'm distressed?.
dqmot.Don't quote me on this.
emfbi.Excuse me for buttting in.
eom.end of message.
faq.Frequently-ask question(s).
fmtyewtk.Far more than you ever wanted to know.
fomcl.Falling off my chair laughing.
fud.Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
fwiw.For what it's worth.
fyi.For your information.
ga.go ahead.
gal.get a life!.
gdr.Grinning, ducking, and running.
gmta.great minds think alike.
gol.Giggling out loud.
gtrm.Going to read mail.
hth.hope this helps.
iac.in any case.
ianal.I am not a lawyer (but).
iha.I hate acronyms.
iirc.If I remember correctly.
ilu.I love you.
ily.I Love you.
im.Immediate message.
imho.In my humble opinion.
iming.chatting online.
imo.In my opinion.
iow.In other words.
iyswim.If you see what I mean.
jbod.Just a bunch of disks.
kotc.Kiss on the cheek.
kwim.Know what I mean?.
ld.Later, dude.
ldr.Long-distance relationship.
link imnsho.In my not so humble opinion.
llta.Lots and lots of thunderous applause.
lol.Laughing out loud.
ltm.Laugh to myself.
ltr.Long-term relationship.
lulab.Love you like a brother.
lulas.Love you like a sister.
morf.Male or female.
moss.Member of the same sex.
motos.Member of the opposite sex.
musm.Miss you so much.
nfw.No feasible way.
np.No problem.
nrn.No response necessary.
oll.Online love.
otf.Off the floor.
otoh.On the other hand.
ottomh.Off the top of my head.
pebcak.Problem exists between chair and keyboard.
pibkac.Problem is between keyboard and chair.
rotfl.Rolling on the floor laughing.
rpg.Role-playing games.
rsn.reel soon now.
shcoon.Shoot hot coffee out of nose.
sol.Smiling out loud.
somy.Sick of me yet?.
stw.Search the Web.
tafn.That's all for now.
tanstaafl.There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
tgif.Thank God it's Friday.
thx.thanks.
tmi.Too much information.
topca.Til our paths cross again.
tptb.The powers that be.
ttfn.Ta-Ta for now.
ttt.Thought that, too.
ttyl.Talk to you later.
tu.Thank you.
vbg.Very big grin.
wfm.Works for me.
wtg.Way to go!.
wtgp.Want to go private?.
wu.What's up?.
wysiwyg.What you see is what you get.
|-).Tired smiley.
pmfjib,Pardon me for jumping in but...,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] emoticons
OK cool. How would I go about it in JFW 12 and Win7? I'm usingLive Messenger. On May 25, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Steve wrote: Yeah, there used to be scripts for that in things like Messenger. I think you had to enable the emodicons. It would say things like smiley, sad smiley, and probably thirty or more other expressions. - Original Message - From: Jorge Paez computertechjorgep...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 7:48 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] emoticons Hi all: Just wondering, In Voice Over on the Mac I'm used to it saying Smile or wink, heart etc., when it comes across emoticons weather on chats or twitter. Any scripts that will do the same for JFW? Thanks, Jorge For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12
Wow, did any of you use JFW 1 or 2 on DOS? On May 25, 2011, at 3:47 PM, tim wrote: Last time I wired one of those was in high school. Also learned ADA, FORTRAN there with COBOL. Started this talking stuff in 90 with vocaleyes and went up through them all. At 03:01 PM 5/25/2011, you wrote: Hi David and Gerald, Man! I must be old! I go back before COBOL to assembly language using IBM 360/30 with 30K of storage and IBM 360/40 with 40K of storage. There were times my programs ran out of storage and it took some doing to make it fit. Everything was done with punched cards which I had to punched most of the programs myself. Those keypunch operators had a difficult time with assembly language programs. I even did some programming with the IBM 1400 series using autocoder. Anyone on the list ever wired a board for am E A M (Electronic accounting machine)? It is nice to know that I am not the only one on the list. I must be the oldest one on the list though? Old programmer never die,they just fade away. Take care. Lennie At 09:06 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want to do. Starting out with Microsoft's .NET platform is probably your best bet. C# (the most widely used
Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12
Lennie, I took an introductory course in programming at our community college in the '80s. We used punch cards and I try to think of that as training in patience. What a pain! It was assembler and it was, indeed, the intro class. There were a few smart terminals on the campus, but not for us beginners. rob Hill - Original Message - From: Lennie lenni...@mchsi.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programming environments and JFW12 Hi David and Gerald, Man! I must be old! I go back before COBOL to assembly language using IBM 360/30 with 30K of storage and IBM 360/40 with 40K of storage. There were times my programs ran out of storage and it took some doing to make it fit. Everything was done with punched cards which I had to punched most of the programs myself. Those keypunch operators had a difficult time with assembly language programs. I even did some programming with the IBM 1400 series using autocoder. Anyone on the list ever wired a board for am E A M (Electronic accounting machine)? It is nice to know that I am not the only one on the list. I must be the oldest one on the list though? Old programmer never die,they just fade away. Take care. Lennie At 09:06 AM 5/22/2011, you wrote: Wow, a fellow COBOL programmer! I go all the way back to the IBM 360 and 370 series. Shows you how old I am. Need any punch cards or coding pads? I still have lots of them laying around. Lol! Gerald - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 So long as you can access the compilers using JAWS it is all right with me if it is discussed on here. Believe me I know what compilers are designed to do and I even have a COBOL compiler from my computer school days here.I was a programmer on an IBM 3090 main frame a while back until the job ran out. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Øyvind Lode - Forums for...@lode.is To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 Ok, this is the jaws list not programming but I will tell you about the C# compilers below. I guess David chimes in when he's tired of reading about programming smile So, this will be my last reply - please continue this thread on the programming list. The C# compiler is located in C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe for the 32-bit version and 64-bit C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319\csc.exe Csc.exe is a command line compiler, so you have to open a Windows console / command prompt to compile and read compiler warnings and errors etc. The above path is related to version 4 of the .NET framework. I recommend adding C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319 to your path environment variable. Doing that will allow you to simply type csc.exe some_program.cs when you're ready to compile your program. If you don't add it to your path you'll need to type: C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\csc.exe some_program.cs every time you compile. A bit cumbersome to say the least. So, let's pretend that you've written the well known Hello, World! Program in C# and named the file containing the C# source code HelloWorld.cs. To compile the program type: Csc.exe HelloWorld.cs This will produce HelloWorld.exe. If your code contains errors the compiler will tell you on which line etc. Good luck! -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 22. mai 2011 02:52 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 for .net, how can I compile it once I write it? On May 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: Python is regarded as a good language for beginners. Personally I'm playing a bit with C and C++. I write all my code in a text editor and compile/debug using only command line tools. For .NET you only need a decent text editor since the .NET framework and compilers is already present on all modern Windows systems. For Python you need to download and install the Python interpreter from www.python.org. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Paez Sent: 21. mai 2011 15:39 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programing environments and JFW12 I already have Microsoft.net framework installed--do I need anything else? Also, what's the easiest language for starting developers? Thanks, Jorge On May 21, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Øyvind Lode - Forums wrote: A lot of languages are available to you. It depends on what you want
