Re: [JAWS-Users] when you have two versions of jaws on your computer, how do you keep one from starting first?

2011-09-17 Thread Sharon Gosling
I was having a problem with this since I have Jaws 11 and installed Jaws 13. 
I can tell which one is on by the speed of the speech since I have speeded 
up Jaws 11 quite a bit.  Anyway whenever I went to the Jaws 13 shortcut on 
my desktop all it showed me was the Options tree for Jaws 11.  So the help 
shown was also the one for Jaws 11.  I tried going to the All programs list 
and went to Jaws 13 and then the Jaws choice and got the same thing.
To solve the problem I added a k in front of the name Jaws 13 on the 
desktop.  Then I can go to it with the keystroke k. At that point I used 
Insert F4 to quit Jaws 11 and pressed enter on the jaws 13 icon on the 
desktop.  Jaws 13 opened and I had to choose to use it in demo mode.
Then I could change settings for Jaws 13. Since I have to use the demo mode 
I choose to have my Jaws 11 at startup and to open Jaws 13 when I want to 
try it on special things.
When my 40 minutes run out I can quit Jaws 13 and then use my hot keys Alt 
control J to open Jaws 11 again.
So I assume that if you are actively running a former version of Jaws then 
you can't start or access Jaws 13 until you exit the earlier version.  But I 
could be wrong but this works for me.

Just for the record I am running Jaws 11 on a 64 bit Windows 7 laptop.
Sherrie Gosling

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] when you have two versions of jaws on your 
computer,how do you keep one from starting first?



Hi All,

I now have jaws 12 and13 on my computer. I want 13 to start, not 12. I 
went
into basic options on 12, and unchecked everything in the placed that 
gives
you choices to check or uncheck how jaws starts. When I went to jaws 13, 
the

same boxes that I unchecked in 12, were also unchecked in jaws 13. I
rechecked them in 13, and they appear the same in 12 also. How do I keep 
12
from starting? I'm running windows 7 home premium jaws 13 beta release on 
a

64 bit machine. Jim

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[JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Nancy Feldman
Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off list,
I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no formatting.
For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following errors.

No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the rest
of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?  I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.  Before I
contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not doing
anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Research it Amazon

2011-09-17 Thread Hamit Campos
I just reported it to FS a while ago, I'll try some of the other ones to
see.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 9:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Research it  Amazon

I can confirm this, it doesn't work for me either.

Steve
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From: Alan Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com
To: Jaws-Users-List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 6:27 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Research it  Amazon


 Anyone having difficulty with the Amazon.com choice with
 Research It in JAWS 13? I've entered two or three things and
 get no results. If I go back to JAWS and enter same thing
 many choices come up? Let me know and I'll submit a bug
 report
 
 Al
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

2011-09-17 Thread Hamit Campos
Well, if it worked I'ed say the easiest way is to use the Amazon Product
Search in Research It to look things up, but it's not behaving. Well, at
least for me and another guy it aint anyways. You know about Rechear It
right?

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victoria
Vaughan
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

Hi I am not used to doing shopping over the internet with Jaws. 

I am about to upgrade to Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Do any of you know of any
tips or tutorials to get me shopping?

Many thanks! Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] do you still hear the clicks when install hangs

2011-09-17 Thread Eric Damery
It should not cause any issues for your OmniPage installed already. Our 
OmniPage during the install is still required.
Eric



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Sent: Fri 9/16/2011 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] do you still hear the clicks when install hangs



Hi Eric,

I currently have OmniPage 15 on my computer. Does this earlier
version's drivers work with Jaws 13 OCR? Also, if FS OmniPage is
still needed to work with the New Jaws version, will it have any
effects on my version of OmniPage 15?

Thanks.

Lennie

At 09:37 AM 9/16/2011, you wrote:
That is the OCR piece. When you install JAWS 13, it will look to see if
the OCR engine we are providing with this version, is installed. If it
has not yet, we look at the User Temporary Folder where will store it in
the invent you need to reinstall later, if it is found in one of these
locations, the install proceeds without the need to download it. Since
this is the first time you have installed JAWS 13, it is having to reach
out and download it. The file is about 70 MB.

Regards,
Eric

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David
Ferrin
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] do you still hear the clicks when install
hangs

It didn't take much longer here than any other version but I did notice
it downloading something from the net much like Skype does during the
installation process and the file is quite large to begin with as well.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really
good at it.
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:41 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] do you still hear the clicks when install hangs


  Hi Listers
  I do not have sighted assistance right now. I started the install
  about an hour ago. I still hear the clicks from the speaker but I do
  not know whether the install hangs like others experience. Can it
  really take so long?
  Regards
  Fanus
 
 
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[JAWS-Users] daily information

2011-09-17 Thread David Ferrin
Daily Tip:
Manage Your Bookmarks

It may seem like common sense to bookmark a Web page that you visit regularly. 
But what about organizing your bookmarks? Organizing your bookmarks can help 
you save time and potential frustration over lost links. Not sure where to 
start? In Internet Explorer, click the down arrow next to the Add To Favorites 
icon and select Organize Favorites. Click the New Folder button at the bottom 
left of the pop-up box. You can create as many folders as you want. Here are 
some folder name suggestions to help you get organized: Business (online 
banking, stocks, etc.), Entertainment (your favorite fun sites), Travel (your 
travel wish list or plans), Miscellaneous (weather, news, etc.) You can also 
create subfolders in any of your original folders; simply click the folder in 
which you want to add a subfolder and click New Folder.
 
  Daily Term:
landscape image

Refers to an image that is framed horizontally so the scene spreads out from 
side to side. A portrait image differs in that the image is framed vertically 
so the scene spreads out up and down.
David Ferrin
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Flor Lynch

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to 
the free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional 
Edition, which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently 
convert those pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use 
OCR software to convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that 
will read more coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled 
pdf, which read fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 
and the free Adobe Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when 
converted by Kurzweil 1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by 
Open Book, etc.



- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
list,

I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
formatting.

For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
errors.


No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
one

nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
first,

and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
rest

of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
wrong?


What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
most

of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
Before I
contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
doing

anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Nancy Feldman
Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have textual
content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to 
the free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional 
Edition, which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently 
convert those pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use 
OCR software to convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that 
will read more coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled 
pdf, which read fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 
and the free Adobe Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when 
converted by Kurzweil 1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by 
Open Book, etc.


- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
 most of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
 one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
 first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
 JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
 new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
 wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
 there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
 I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
 to, and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
 most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
 the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
 in an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
 the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
 Before I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
 doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Research it Amazon

2011-09-17 Thread Trouble
I said that was a useless feature when it came out. Thanks for 
proving my point!


At 06:27 PM 9/16/2011, you wrote:

Anyone having difficulty with the Amazon.com choice with
Research It in JAWS 13? I've entered two or three things and
get no results. If I go back to JAWS and enter same thing
many choices come up? Let me know and I'll submit a bug
report

Al


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 and Live Mail 15

2011-09-17 Thread Annette Carr
I frequently have this problem with my inbox in Outlook 2007 and 2010 when
using JAWS 11 and 12.  I have never been able to figure out what causes it
nor what makes it disappear.  I've contacted Freedom and got the standard
response of it is not a JAWS problem, but rather your computer or Outlook.
I've not noticed the problem in my Outlook contacts, but I have seen it in
other Outlook mail folders.  I also frequently have problems in Outlook mail
folders where JAWS will read the name of the e-mail sender and the size of
the message, but nothing else such as subject and date/time.  The
information is there on the screen, but JAWS will not read it.  It is an
intermittent problem.

Annette


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Graham Smith
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 7:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 and Live Mail 15

Anyhone else noticing not selected being announced when moving down your
list of contacts?  I have tried every option to stop it and nothing works.

I have tried ocr on HP Support with no success and also no success reading
PDF bank statements.  It will read the statement but nothing is eligible.

Graham


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[JAWS-Users] lines reading twice with JAWS beta and Outlook 2010

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Porter
As the subject says, JAWS 13 is reading each line twice in messages in 
Outlook 2010.


Can anyone help

Thanks

Paul


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Annette Carr
At work I have Adobe Professional and also OPenBook 9.  I have found that
the OCR feature in Adobe Professional does a pretty good job on many of
those Empty PDF documents.  When I am not successful in Adobe
Professional, then I use the OpenBook Freedom printer and send the file to
OpenBook.  I do not have to deal much with locked PDF files from publishers
or PDF's that rely heavily on tables.  So, I do not know how much use you
will get from this information.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Feldman
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have textual
content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to the
free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional Edition,
which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently convert those
pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use OCR software to
convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that will read more
coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled pdf, which read
fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 and the free Adobe
Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when converted by Kurzweil
1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by Open Book, etc.


- Original Message -
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
 most of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
 one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
 first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
 JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
 new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
 wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
 there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
 I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
 to, and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
 most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
 the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
 in an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
 the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
 Before I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
 doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Nancy Feldman
Thanks, Annette.

The PDFs I purchase don't have images, they have text.  I'm not sure if
they're locked, or just have lots of complex layout that JAWS doesn't know
how to decipher.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

At work I have Adobe Professional and also OPenBook 9.  I have found that
the OCR feature in Adobe Professional does a pretty good job on many of
those Empty PDF documents.  When I am not successful in Adobe
Professional, then I use the OpenBook Freedom printer and send the file to
OpenBook.  I do not have to deal much with locked PDF files from publishers
or PDF's that rely heavily on tables.  So, I do not know how much use you
will get from this information.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Feldman
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have textual
content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part to the
free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional Edition,
which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently convert those
pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use OCR software to
convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that will read more
coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled pdf, which read
fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 and the free Adobe
Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when converted by Kurzweil
1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by Open Book, etc.


- Original Message -
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files


 Good Morning,

 I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for help 
 here.
 If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off 
 list,
 I'd be happy to do that.

 I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no 
 formatting.
 For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

 But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and 
 most of
 them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following 
 errors.

 No spaces between words

 On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as 
 one
 nonsensical block of text

 With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the 
 right
 hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries 
 first,
 and then the right.
 Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
 assured there is text there

 One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and 
 JAWS
 had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with the 
 rest
 of the text.

 Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need 
 new
 strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something 
 wrong?

 What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is 
 there
 anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text? 
 I
 seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents 
 to, and
 it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is 
 most
 of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
 largest Email attachment I can send.

 I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact 
 the
 publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've purchased 
 in an
 alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that 
 the
 information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me. 
 Before I
 contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not 
 doing
 anything wrong.

 Many thanks.

 Nancy

 I've tried saving files to text, and the


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[JAWS-Users] Selecting files in Filezilla

2011-09-17 Thread Michelle McQuigge
Hi all, 
 
I'm using Filezilla for the first time and have encountered an odd problem.
I've gotten connected no problem and managed to download a batch of files
from the site I'm working with. When it's time to upload files, however, I
run into an issue. I select files to upload, either individually or in
batches, I right-click using the Jaws cursor, and am told that upload
isn't available. No option seems to be available, in fact, other than to
create a folder in my local directory. It's almost as if the files aren't
selecting properly. I've tried hitting space bar on them, selecting them
using shift+ arrow-keys, and nothing seems to work. Has anyone encountered
this issue before? Any help you can provide would be much appreciated. This
includes alternative ways of uploading files using this program, if such
exist. 
 
Thanks a lot,Michelle
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

2011-09-17 Thread Victoria Vaughan

Hi David. Thanks for your tip on organizing Favorites.

Once the folders are made, how then do I go through my list and select, copy 
and paste it into the folder?


It doesn't seem to be the same as working with files, creating folders and 
then moving the files into the My Documents folders.


Many thanks! Vicky
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Daily Tip:
Manage Your Bookmarks

It may seem like common sense to bookmark a Web page that you visit 
regularly. But what about organizing your bookmarks? Organizing your 
bookmarks can help you save time and potential frustration over lost 
links. Not sure where to start? In Internet Explorer, click the down arrow 
next to the Add To Favorites icon and select Organize Favorites. Click the 
New Folder button at the bottom left of the pop-up box. You can create as 
many folders as you want. Here are some folder name suggestions to help 
you get organized: Business (online banking, stocks, etc.), Entertainment 
(your favorite fun sites), Travel (your travel wish list or plans), 
Miscellaneous (weather, news, etc.) You can also create subfolders in any 
of your original folders; simply click the folder in which you want to add 
a subfolder and click New Folder.


 Daily Term:
landscape image

Refers to an image that is framed horizontally so the scene spreads out 
from side to side. A portrait image differs in that the image is framed 
vertically so the scene spreads out up and down.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

2011-09-17 Thread Victoria Vaughan
Hi, I know about Research It, but have never used it. It seemed to be mainly 
for sports or business.


After I'm on the Amazone site, how should Research It, come into play?

Many thanks! Vicky
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws



Well, if it worked I'ed say the easiest way is to use the Amazon Product
Search in Research It to look things up, but it's not behaving. Well, at
least for me and another guy it aint anyways. You know about Rechear It
right?

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victoria
Vaughan
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

Hi I am not used to doing shopping over the internet with Jaws.

I am about to upgrade to Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Do any of you know of any
tips or tutorials to get me shopping?

Many thanks! Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Flor Lynch
I sometimes use my Kurzweil 1000 on an untagged and textual pdf (where 
there is no problem with JAWS) in order to find out more accurate 
information on layout of a page, (this being a newspaper. Some of the 
text is not where it should be on the page. K1000 does a better job than 
the free Adobe Reader, even if it's a little slower to get going.) 
Adobe's accessibility tools from the screen-reader's end do not solve 
all the problems we may encounter with pdf's, image or text.


- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert 
image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have 
textual

content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part 
to

the free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional
Edition, which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently
convert those pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to 
use

OCR software to convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that
will read more coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily 
tabled
pdf, which read fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, 
JAWS12

and the free Adobe Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when
converted by Kurzweil 1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted 
by

Open Book, etc.


- Original Message - 

From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for 
help

here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off
list,
I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no
formatting.
For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and
most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following
errors.

No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as
one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries
first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and
JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with 
the

rest
of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need
new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something
wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is
there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?
I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents
to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is
most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact
the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've 
purchased

in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that
the
information is there and available, but still inaccessible to me.
Before I
contact the publishers, though, I want to make certain that I'm not
doing
anything wrong.

Many thanks.

Nancy

I've tried saving files to text, and the


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Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

2011-09-17 Thread Flor Lynch
If they were locked, you'd know because you'd be asked for a password to 
unlock them to make available for reading, printing, etc. Again, where 
Adobe professional is not available, the OCR option is worth trying also 
on untagged or inaccessibly structured pdf's.


- Original Message - 
From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Thanks, Annette.

The PDFs I purchase don't have images, they have text.  I'm not sure 
if
they're locked, or just have lots of complex layout that JAWS doesn't 
know

how to decipher.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Annette 
Carr

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

At work I have Adobe Professional and also OPenBook 9.  I have found 
that
the OCR feature in Adobe Professional does a pretty good job on many 
of

those Empty PDF documents.  When I am not successful in Adobe
Professional, then I use the OpenBook Freedom printer and send the 
file to
OpenBook.  I do not have to deal much with locked PDF files from 
publishers
or PDF's that rely heavily on tables.  So, I do not know how much use 
you

will get from this information.

Annette

-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Nancy 
Feldman

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

Hi Flor,

Thanks for the suggestion. I knew I could use OpenBook to convert 
image PDFs
to something readable.  Most of the PDFs I purchase actually have 
textual

content, though, it just comes out wrong.
A
M I able to use OpenBook to convert regular PDF documents?

I'm curious enough I guess I'll go find out right now.

Again, thanks for the idea.


-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
Lynch

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 7:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files

nancy,

it seems to me that the limitations you mention are due in large part 
to the
free Adobe Reader's limitations. there is an Adobe Professional 
Edition,
which (I believe) costs about $300, that would apparently convert 
those
pdf's properly. Another option, if you have it, is to use OCR software 
to

convert the pdf's and image pdf's into documents that will read more
coherently. the other day, I came across a heavily tabled pdf, which 
read
fine on the internet but which - when downloaded, JAWS12 and the free 
Adobe
Reader had difficulty with. it reads properly when converted by 
Kurzweil

1000, OCR,and would read well thus if converted by Open Book, etc.


- Original Message -

From: Nancy Feldman nancy_feld...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] PDF Files



Good Morning,

I am at my wit's end with PDF files, so I thought I'd inquire for 
help

here.
If there's a better forum for this, or we should be discussing it off
list,
I'd be happy to do that.

I've used JAWS to read basic PDF files, ones with practically no
formatting.
For instance, a novel in PDF format tends to read pretty well.

But I purchase a lot of PDF documents from www.drivethrurpg.com, and
most of
them aren't read very well by JAWS.  I've seen many of the following
errors.

No spaces between words

On two-column pages, the columns being smashed together and read as
one
nonsensical block of text

With tables, the left hand column being presented first, and then the
right
hand column, not side by side, but all the left hand column entries
first,
and then the right.
Whole sections of books that JAWS cannot see at all, even though I am
assured there is text there

One pair of files where the author used lots of notes in the text and
JAWS
had no idea where to put them, so it just reads them mixed up with 
the

rest
of the text.

Because of all of these difficulties, I've concluded that I may need
new
strategies for dealing with PDF files.  Perhaps I'm doing something
wrong?

What are the optimal settings to use when opening a PDF file?  Is
there
anything I can do to improve the conversion of PDF documents to text?
I
seem to recall that there's a place that we can Email PDF documents
to, and
it'll convert them. Is it any good? The problem with that approach is
most
of these documents are larger than 10 MB, which I believe exceeds the
largest Email attachment I can send.

I welcome all suggestions and insights.  Failing that, I will contact
the
publishers and ask if I can get copies of the documents I've 
purchased

in an
alternate electronic format.  It's just very frustrating to know that
the
information is there and 

[JAWS-Users] word list with jaws 12

2011-09-17 Thread Gary Jackson

Hi all,

On some, not all, web pages jaws goes silent after using insert control W to 
get word list. In fact, the freedom scientific site is one place it happens. If 
you can get speech back with another screen reader there appears to be some 
error message. Itt has to be related to the word list function and is not 
happening in earlier versions, but also happens with the jaws 13 beta. Anybody 
else getting this?

Gary

Gary JacksonKK5GE
g...@southstarsolutions.com
Phone: 409-962-0353

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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

2011-09-17 Thread David Ferrin
Let me experiment with this a bit since like many items just hasn't crossed 
my desk until today.
David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good 
at it.
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From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information


Hi David. Thanks for your tip on organizing Favorites.

Once the folders are made, how then do I go through my list and select, copy
and paste it into the folder?

It doesn't seem to be the same as working with files, creating folders and
then moving the files into the My Documents folders.

Many thanks! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information


 Daily Tip:
 Manage Your Bookmarks

 It may seem like common sense to bookmark a Web page that you visit
 regularly. But what about organizing your bookmarks? Organizing your
 bookmarks can help you save time and potential frustration over lost
 links. Not sure where to start? In Internet Explorer, click the down arrow
 next to the Add To Favorites icon and select Organize Favorites. Click the
 New Folder button at the bottom left of the pop-up box. You can create as
 many folders as you want. Here are some folder name suggestions to help
 you get organized: Business (online banking, stocks, etc.), Entertainment
 (your favorite fun sites), Travel (your travel wish list or plans),
 Miscellaneous (weather, news, etc.) You can also create subfolders in any
 of your original folders; simply click the folder in which you want to add
 a subfolder and click New Folder.

  Daily Term:
 landscape image

 Refers to an image that is framed horizontally so the scene spreads out
 from side to side. A portrait image differs in that the image is framed
 vertically so the scene spreads out up and down.
 David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

2011-09-17 Thread Hamit Campos
When you're on the site it's over it. Research it just gives you a list of
links that have to do with what you want, and once you click thatlink you
are done with Research It. Well, at least that's how it use to work, but I
don'tknow what this new one is supposed to do
 Since it won't work.
-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victoria
Vaughan
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

Hi, I know about Research It, but have never used it. It seemed to be mainly

for sports or business.

After I'm on the Amazone site, how should Research It, come into play?

Many thanks! Vicky
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From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws


 Well, if it worked I'ed say the easiest way is to use the Amazon Product
 Search in Research It to look things up, but it's not behaving. Well, at
 least for me and another guy it aint anyways. You know about Rechear It
 right?

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victoria
 Vaughan
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:58 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Shopping Amazone with Jaws

 Hi I am not used to doing shopping over the internet with Jaws.

 I am about to upgrade to Windows 7 and Jaws 13. Do any of you know of any
 tips or tutorials to get me shopping?

 Many thanks! Vicky
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Google

2011-09-17 Thread inthane

have either of you tried repairing jaws?

this type of action is what usually for me and my machines signals time for 
a repair or reload


HTH,
elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
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own the might and majesty of an alacorn
www.alacorncomputer.com
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for blind computer users and Programmers!
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- Original Message - 
From: Annette Carr amca...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Google



Yes, this has been a problem for me since JAWS 11 and has continued into
JAWS 12.  When I called Freedom about it I was told that it was a problem
with my computer and had nothing to do with JAWS so there was nothing they
could do for me.  I figured out that if I either exited out of I.E. or use
the F5 key to refresh the page, the problem went away until after the next
time I booted my computer up.

Annette


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of East, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Google

I have noticed on my home and on my work computers using JAWS 12 and one 
PC

on XP the other using Win 7 that when I go to do a google search and turns
forms mode on I can type in the information or the search criteria and for
some reason what I typed is not there. I can do this several times turning
forms mode on and off going to top of page then jumping back to the edit
field and still text seems not to be echoed or even written into the 
field.
I cannot arrow back to see what is typed and if I turn JAWS Cursor on 
there

is nothing to be found.

Any one experiencing this and what could be the issue here?
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

2011-09-17 Thread Rick Justice
Hi Vicky,
I haven't done this thru Internet Explorer, but here is how you can do it 
just like
working with files and folders in My Documents.
1. Press Windows key +R, to open the run dialogue, and type the following, 
and press enter
favorites
2. Now, you are in the Favorites folder where you can manipulate files and 
folders as you would anywhere else on the computer.
You can create new folders, and then copy and paste your internet shortcuts 
into the folders you want them in.
I don't access my Favorites from Internet Explorer, I placed a shortcut to 
the Favorites folder on my Start menu and Access them from there.
It is much quicker to organize them without opening Internet Explorer.
HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message - 
From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information


Hi David. Thanks for your tip on organizing Favorites.

Once the folders are made, how then do I go through my list and select, copy
and paste it into the folder?

It doesn't seem to be the same as working with files, creating folders and
then moving the files into the My Documents folders.

Many thanks! Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information


 Daily Tip:
 Manage Your Bookmarks

 It may seem like common sense to bookmark a Web page that you visit
 regularly. But what about organizing your bookmarks? Organizing your
 bookmarks can help you save time and potential frustration over lost
 links. Not sure where to start? In Internet Explorer, click the down arrow
 next to the Add To Favorites icon and select Organize Favorites. Click the
 New Folder button at the bottom left of the pop-up box. You can create as
 many folders as you want. Here are some folder name suggestions to help
 you get organized: Business (online banking, stocks, etc.), Entertainment
 (your favorite fun sites), Travel (your travel wish list or plans),
 Miscellaneous (weather, news, etc.) You can also create subfolders in any
 of your original folders; simply click the folder in which you want to add
 a subfolder and click New Folder.

  Daily Term:
 landscape image

 Refers to an image that is framed horizontally so the scene spreads out
 from side to side. A portrait image differs in that the image is framed
 vertically so the scene spreads out up and down.
 David Ferrin
 I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one
 up too.
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[JAWS-Users] New Use For Confenient OCR

2011-09-17 Thread Mervin Keck
I use a rather expensive program for my Bible study called Logos Platinum 4
which also includes a cacophony of resources I have added since I began
building my electronic library in 2001.  I usually use Jaws about 75% and
Magic about 25% of the time when I'm on the computer since I suffered a
major vision loss in March.  I already used both but after March I began to
depend much more on Jaws.  Libronix, makers of Logos made the transition to
cloud when they moved from version 3 to version 4 a year or so ago.  This
has several advantages for people like me who have over 2,000 resources and
are licensed to access them on several computers.  I can have instant access
to my place on either laptop at any time, any where.  However, with version
4 i could barely access Logos without vision.  They are working on making it
accessible but we all know that there are many obstacles with graphical
heavy applications.

today I installed the beta of jaws 13 and tried Logos 4 and it read the
entire 3 column screen which has been for the most part inaccessible since
March.  I figure with FS working on improving Jaws, Logos working on
improving accessibility I can't lose.

I use this program every single day of my life and have thousands tied up in
it.  I love convenient OCR already.

blind5sparrow 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information

2011-09-17 Thread Victoria Vaughan

Thanks Rick! I'll try that.Vicky
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice ricjust...@jaws-users.com

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Hi Vicky,
I haven't done this thru Internet Explorer, but here is how you can do it
just like
working with files and folders in My Documents.
1. Press Windows key +R, to open the run dialogue, and type the following,
and press enter
favorites
2. Now, you are in the Favorites folder where you can manipulate files and
folders as you would anywhere else on the computer.
You can create new folders, and then copy and paste your internet 
shortcuts

into the folders you want them in.
I don't access my Favorites from Internet Explorer, I placed a shortcut to
the Favorites folder on my Start menu and Access them from there.
It is much quicker to organize them without opening Internet Explorer.
HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message - 
From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] daily information


Hi David. Thanks for your tip on organizing Favorites.

Once the folders are made, how then do I go through my list and select, 
copy

and paste it into the folder?

It doesn't seem to be the same as working with files, creating folders and
then moving the files into the My Documents folders.

Many thanks! Vicky
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From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 9:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] daily information



Daily Tip:
Manage Your Bookmarks

It may seem like common sense to bookmark a Web page that you visit
regularly. But what about organizing your bookmarks? Organizing your
bookmarks can help you save time and potential frustration over lost
links. Not sure where to start? In Internet Explorer, click the down 
arrow
next to the Add To Favorites icon and select Organize Favorites. Click 
the

New Folder button at the bottom left of the pop-up box. You can create as
many folders as you want. Here are some folder name suggestions to help
you get organized: Business (online banking, stocks, etc.), Entertainment
(your favorite fun sites), Travel (your travel wish list or plans),
Miscellaneous (weather, news, etc.) You can also create subfolders in any
of your original folders; simply click the folder in which you want to 
add

a subfolder and click New Folder.

 Daily Term:
landscape image

Refers to an image that is framed horizontally so the scene spreads out
from side to side. A portrait image differs in that the image is framed
vertically so the scene spreads out up and down.
David Ferrin
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one
up too.
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