Re: [JAWS-Users] print screen
Hi, Try the paint can. Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'jaws users' Subject: [JAWS-Users] print screen Hey Gang, My print screen key is where the application key should be on this Lenovo keyboard, so I keep on hitting it. My question is where do I go to delete all the pictures of the screen I took, or does it matter? I have a Toshiba laptop running windows 10, and Jaws 18. Thanks for any help. Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
The windows pause key works. I've never used that key before. Thanks folks, Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc This is definitely on topic for this list. To get system information for your computer including whether it is 32 or 64 bit, press Windows key-Pause and use the JAWS cursor to read the information. The Pause key is the top right-most key on your keyboard above the numpad. Gerald -Original Message- From: Justin Williams Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:
JAWS for DOS. LOL! Those were the good old days. My serial number is in the mid 7000. Remember installing JAWS v2 using floppy disks back then. Boy how the web has changed. I would love to know how much I've spent over the years on SMA renewals. Oh well, it was definitely worth it. At 06:28 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote: My serial number is also in the low 1100's. Though, I began my experience with Jaws version II. My rehabilitation counselor wanted to purchase Jaws for dos for me. I have always regretted not allowing her to do so. Because, I since wanted to have the privilege of booting up the computer using the hardware dec-talk synthesizer, and Jaws for dos. I think it is a sad thing we can do nothing prior to Jaws booting itself into windows. As there is no speech prior to windows booting itself. . - Original Message - From: "George Marshall" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Hi gang: Well I'm probably a little older than Dave and Lenny. I first met Ted Henter when he and I think Derek came down to Fort Myers and they had a seminar at red lobster, I spoke to both of them at that time don't remember the exact date. I was using TSI'S speech synthesizer on an IBM 3280. I and my department director went over to Stuart Florida and watch the demo of an early standalone computer, we didn't buy it. D I then received a modified version of the IBM 3280 with speech, it had a little pad that was connected by a cable that you used to control the speech much like what you do now on a desktop with jaws for speech. E I don't know that I was first or second to buy jaws but I can tell you my serial number is in the low 1100s. P it's been a great trip through version 1 up to 18 now and I've had every version I have long retired from the school system. A I will be 83 years old at the end of June, so this probably puts me as one of the oldest on this list. R Hope this rambling through a little of history helps, tment director George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Lenny, Your age is showing, man. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame computer an IBM 370. After the first or 2nd winter in Maryland Ted left for a warmer climate and started his own company. There was a dispute over the name so he changed it to Hinter Joyce. It was around 1985 when I purchased jaws for dos. In 1995 he released JFW, I was the 47th individual to purchase that product. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first company to own Jaws. The first was "Henter Joyce". Founded by Ted Henter, and, I believe Dean Blazy. It might also interest you to know, Ted henter was blind. He sold the company. to illustrate again how successful we blind people can be. If we just reach for the stars, and develop our fullest potential. Which we do all the time. How far Jaws has come from the time when its initials meant Job Access With Speech. Young people, now days, are indeed fortunate to be able to accomplish, with so much more ease, things which much more effort was taken to achieve a half century ago. Prior to the use of the internet, and when our only printing device was the typewriter. Though, then, once a skill was learned, one could rely on being able to employ that skill for years. Now, it seems, with such rapid changes, it seems new skills must be learned constantly. To accomplish the same things? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
There's always a problem it seems. I'm curious? How many sites or applications do JAWS users encounter that require JAVA? I know there a lot of on-line gaming sites that need it to run their plug-ins. For your own needs is it really worth the risks? I mean if Google has taken steps to stop certain programs from appearing on their search engine, there must be a serious problem. Believe other well known sites have also followed suit. I would just avoid installing them completely, unless I had full flexibility to enable them on a site by site basis. That's what using FireFox will give you. That's why I have Adobe Flash installed only on FireFox. Some important sites I use haven't switched their web players to the new HTML 5 format, thus I have to use Adobe Flash to access their content. At 06:07 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote: I uninstalled Java about three years ago after the U.S. government issued this warning. However, I since read that Oracle had fixed the security vulnerability and that the government withdrew its notice. Is this over-simplifying? Is there still a problem? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hans Pauli Sundstein Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Mike. If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer nesesary to install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mike B. Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Hi Adrian, Well, my 1st install was from, Ninite, but after enabling the Access Bridge I got an error message, & also after rebooting. Come to find out, the Ninite installer installed both 32 & 64 bit versions. So, I uninstalled them both, made sure all Oracle / Java folders were gone from everywhere I could think of, cleaned my system with CCleaner, & finally reinstalled with an installer I got from Oracle's website. I enabled the Access Bridge, no error messages, rebooted, & no error messages, so I think we gotter whipped. Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, I'd forgotten all about that. The answer is yes, as I've just confirmed from my notes. But I wish I'd checked them before because I could have saved you having to find a good download site. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
You're absolutely correct. Both JAVA and Adobe Flash are on everyone's hit list for having way too many security vulnerabilities. It's best you avoid installing them. You get more flexibility installing Adobe Flash on FireFox for you can enable it's use on a site by site basis. They may have the same option for JAVA. At 05:40 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote: Hi Mike. If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer nesesary to install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mike B. Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:
My serial number is also in the low 1100's. Though, I began my experience with Jaws version II. My rehabilitation counselor wanted to purchase Jaws for dos for me. I have always regretted not allowing her to do so. Because, I since wanted to have the privilege of booting up the computer using the hardware dec-talk synthesizer, and Jaws for dos. I think it is a sad thing we can do nothing prior to Jaws booting itself into windows. As there is no speech prior to windows booting itself. . - Original Message - From: "George Marshall" To: Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Hi gang: Well I'm probably a little older than Dave and Lenny. I first met Ted Henter when he and I think Derek came down to Fort Myers and they had a seminar at red lobster, I spoke to both of them at that time don't remember the exact date. I was using TSI'S speech synthesizer on an IBM 3280. I and my department director went over to Stuart Florida and watch the demo of an early standalone computer, we didn't buy it. D I then received a modified version of the IBM 3280 with speech, it had a little pad that was connected by a cable that you used to control the speech much like what you do now on a desktop with jaws for speech. E I don't know that I was first or second to buy jaws but I can tell you my serial number is in the low 1100s. P it's been a great trip through version 1 up to 18 now and I've had every version I have long retired from the school system. A I will be 83 years old at the end of June, so this probably puts me as one of the oldest on this list. R Hope this rambling through a little of history helps, tment director George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Lenny, Your age is showing, man. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame computer an IBM 370. After the first or 2nd winter in Maryland Ted left for a warmer climate and started his own company. There was a dispute over the name so he changed it to Hinter Joyce. It was around 1985 when I purchased jaws for dos. In 1995 he released JFW, I was the 47th individual to purchase that product. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first company to own Jaws. The first was "Henter Joyce". Founded by Ted Henter, and, I believe Dean Blazy. It might also interest you to know, Ted henter was blind. He sold the company. to illustrate again how successful we blind people can be. If we just reach for the stars, and develop our fullest potential. Which we do all the time. How far Jaws has come from the time when its initials meant Job Access With Speech. Young people, now days, are indeed fortunate to be able to accomplish, with so much more ease, things which much more effort was taken to achieve a half century ago. Prior to the use of the internet, and when our only printing device was the typewriter. Though, then, once a skill was learned, one could rely on being able to employ that skill for years. Now, it seems, with such rapid changes, it seems new skills must be learned constantly. To accomplish the same things? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
I uninstalled Java about three years ago after the U.S. government issued this warning. However, I since read that Oracle had fixed the security vulnerability and that the government withdrew its notice. Is this over-simplifying? Is there still a problem? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hans Pauli Sundstein Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Mike. If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer nesesary to install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mike B. Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Mike, I'd forgotten all about that. The answer is yes, as I've just confirmed from my notes. But I wish I'd checked them before because I could have saved you having to find a good download site. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] java and jaws
Hi, everyone, I enjoyed reading the info about Java. I always thought it was necessary to keep it up because of how they are doing websites these days, but now Hans says that it isn't and I am confused. Could someone please update me on Java, what it now does and what is necessary? When I wrote that post about a certain site jumping around I was wondering if it had anything to do with Java not being updated, but maybe that's not the case anymore. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Hi Mike. If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer nesesary to install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure. Hans Pauli. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mike B. Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46 Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] print screen
Hey Gang, My print screen key is where the application key should be on this Lenovo keyboard, so I keep on hitting it. My question is where do I go to delete all the pictures of the screen I took, or does it matter? I have a Toshiba laptop running windows 10, and Jaws 18. Thanks for any help. Patti --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Hi Adrian, Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
That's right, the Bridge isn't necessary anymore. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi Adrian, I did finally find, download, & install the correct program, Java 8, but it just took me a little time to find it. So, this is all I need to install then? You say that the bridge isn't necessary any more? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Hi Adrian, I did finally find, download, & install the correct program, Java 8, but it just took me a little time to find it. So, this is all I need to install then? You say that the bridge isn't necessary any more? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to Dropbox for sharing files
Melissa, there is also Googledrive. Humberto -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Hambleton Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to Dropbox for sharing files I am on an online community forum and a project is to have a print book put into audio format. Many people are reading different chapters of the book so the audio files may be different. The book is being put into audio format because there is not presently a audio version of it to be had. However, the audio files would be shared among sighted and visually impaired/blind persons alike. So far the only idea is to have a Dropbox account and share the folder but then some people may not have or want a Dropbox account. I would like to know if there is any alternative to Dropbox to share a folder/files with others so others can listen to the book and it also be accessible for those with vision loss. If I need to clarify anything please let me know and I'll do my best. Melissa For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JAWS and Power Shell
Hello list, I have a client who is interested in using JAWS to work inside of the Power Shell environment. Does anyone have any thoughts about this? Does JAWS have the ability to work freely within the Power shell functions? Thanks for any thoughts. Nate For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Mike, The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare. Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM To: Jaws-Users List Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
With a desktop keyboard layout using the 102 / 104 key keyboard, you have 3 keys to the right of the, F12, key. They are Print Screen, Scroll Lock, & Pause. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc This is definitely on topic for this list. To get system information for your computer including whether it is 32 or 64 bit, press Windows key-Pause and use the JAWS cursor to read the information. The Pause key is the top right-most key on your keyboard above the numpad. Gerald -Original Message- From: Justin Williams Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
There is no wrong way, or rather one way is no more right than another. FYI this is how I do it myself. -Original Message- From: Gail the U. S. Male Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Hi, there is a much easier way! Go to your C drive. Open it, and look through your folders, if you have a folder that says program files x86 you have a 64 bit machine, however if you see only one program files folder, that says just that "program files, " then you have a 32 bit machine. This is how VFO group/Freedom Scientific says to do it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Justin Williams Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
This is definitely on topic for this list. To get system information for your computer including whether it is 32 or 64 bit, press Windows key-Pause and use the JAWS cursor to read the information. The Pause key is the top right-most key on your keyboard above the numpad. Gerald -Original Message- From: Justin Williams Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws
Hi All, What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & Jaws? Thanks much. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word
FYI, I like the word list much better than the find and skim reader is extremely valuable in some situations as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hello Adrian, Yes, you are quite right! I didn't realize that when in the navigation pane pressing spacebar still goes result to result and JAWS speaks the found result. It seems to me that at one time using the navigation pane to find text didn't work very well and most people were making the change I mentioned. Also, I think at that time a person did have to use F6 and shift with f6 but not now. The escape key also now takes focus back into the document pane. Also, the JAWS find is a great alternative. For some reason, I thought it was limited to only search what is shown on the screen at a given time. This isn't the case either. Changing the CTRL F to apply to the EditFind command isn't really necessary any more. Thanks for pointing these things out. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: April 13, 2017 9:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Brian, This is useful information, as always, but it does seem a bit complicated. When I do a control-f search, JAWS reads the current line as soon as the result is found. It's critical not to press any key until JAWS has verbalized that line, or else JAWS gives only the option to search for the next result, with an indication of the total number of results for that search in the document. Having heard the line of text, I have two options. Either I press the spacebar to move to the next result or press escape to go to re-read and possibly edit the text. As you explain, the control-f search doesn't land you directly in the text field. If I elected to stop the search to check that text but then decide to continue searching for that same item, I press control-f again. The same search term is still there, so I just press enter. I'm taken to the next instance of that search term. Once again, the current line of text is verbalized, and I have the same two choices: press escape to go into the text or press spacebar to resume searching. The alternative, of course, is a JAWS find, adding the JAWS key to control-f. In this case, JAWS stays in the text when it finds a result, so you can edit right away. To resume searching for the same term, press JAWS key-F3. Each type of search, Microsoft's and JAWS's, has advantages. I'm afraid this doesn't address John's concern that the escape key no longer cancels his search operations. I don't have an answer for that. I'm using Office 2010, JAWS 18 (last but one release) and Win7. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hello John, It is really best to work in print view when using Word. Keystrokes such as Alt key with delete report the distance in inches between the cursor position and the edge of the paper. As you tab you also hear the distance from the left edge of the paper. When JAWS says that the cursor is one inch from the left, this indicates there is a one-inch margin. Working in print view gives you a lot better understanding of how your document will appear when printed. In Word 2010, CTRL with F does not perform the traditional Find command and take focus into the Find tab of the Find and Replace dialog box. CTRL with F takes focus into the navigation pane. You can do a search in the navigation pane and use the next button to go from result to result but to get into the document to read the result you need to use shift key with F6. After reviewing the result you can use F6 to go back into the navigation pane and use the Next button again. In order to return the CTRL with F to launching the Find and Replace dialog box you need to apply the keystroke to the Editfind command. 1. Press Alt F to display the File tab of the ribbon. 2. Press Alt T to display Word Options. 3. Use down arrow key in the categories of options until you get to Customize Ribbon. 4. Tab until you find the Customize button and use spacebar. 5. In the Categories list move focus to the Home Tab. 6. In the Commands list locate EditFind. You can press the letter E and then use down arrow until you get to it. Press enter key. 7. Use the tab key to the Press New Shortcut Key box. 8. Press CTRL+F. A message in the box shows that the keystroke is being used for a different command. 9. Tab to and press spacebar o
Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word
Hello, the print view is still standard for us. Escape should still take you out from the find dialog, if not, try Alt/space bar and then arrow down to close, or press the letter C for close. If alt/space bar does not bring up that menu, try control/space bar and press C. I am not sure why escape is not working for you, that is strange. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of patti Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hi, When I open up a document mine says print. What does it say when you have it on accessibility view? How do you get to it? Patti You want accessibility view. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R. Vaughn Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word List, having a couple of issues, Running windows 10, Office 2010 and latest jaws 18 on a Toshiba laptop: 1. When I bring up a Word document, jaws announces the name of the document and at the end says "print view" Do we want to have documents in print view? Seems like there was a setting in options to change this by checking or unchecking a check box with the space bar. Unless I am remembering incorrectly, seems like print view had some issues and we were advised to not use print view. 2. When I bring up the find dialogue with Control key plus letter F, after I have done my search, I cannot get the dialogue to close so I can reload the Find command to look for something else in the Word document. My sighted wife says she has to click an X next to the name being searched to close the find dialogue. Seems like we used to be able to use the "escape key" to dismiss the find dialogue. Thanks for any help. John That said, I have no problem using the Jaws find command of jaws key plus control key and letter f. Has the operation of the find function been changed? I used to use office 2003. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
Hi, there is a much easier way! Go to your C drive. Open it, and look through your folders, if you have a folder that says program files x86 you have a 64 bit machine, however if you see only one program files folder, that says just that "program files, " then you have a 32 bit machine. This is how VFO group/Freedom Scientific says to do it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Justin Williams Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
the way I do it is to press the Windows key together with the pause key, which is at the far top-right of your keyboard. This lists many details about your system. You need to switch to the JAWS cursor to read it. On my system, the bit number is about ten lines down. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Justin Williams Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home
Yes, that is all you have to do. And, if you have your machine to connect to networks automatically, then you won't have to do this again,, unless he changes his password, or something about his network configuration. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home in order to connect to his wireless do the following after you arrive at his home. Ask him for his wi-fi password. Next search for manage wireless networks. Assuming it finds his network tab over to connect and enter the login credentials he has already given you. If memory serves that is all you need to do. If I may ask, what city does he live in? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:12 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: I live in Houston, and am not currently at my brother-in-laws home. I was wanting the information for future reference. Thanks for the follow up. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home First of all let us both get on the same page. What have you done so far to connect to the internet? IE are you on wireless at this point ETC? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: Okay. What is the next step? I am not sure if this would be "performed" in my internet settings, or what. Thanks for the reply. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home The first thing you have to do is go to your brother in laws house and ask him for his password. More than a few hundred feet away and he might as well be on the moon for all the good it would do for you. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home Morning all. I have never attempted to do this, so I am uncertain as to the process; but how do I access a wify signal from outside my home i.e., my brother-in-laws home in another city? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit
go into control panel and enter on system 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc
Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is 34 or 64 bit? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word
Hi, When I open up a document mine says print. What does it say when you have it on accessibility view? How do you get to it? Patti You want accessibility view. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R. Vaughn Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word List, having a couple of issues, Running windows 10, Office 2010 and latest jaws 18 on a Toshiba laptop: 1. When I bring up a Word document, jaws announces the name of the document and at the end says "print view" Do we want to have documents in print view? Seems like there was a setting in options to change this by checking or unchecking a check box with the space bar. Unless I am remembering incorrectly, seems like print view had some issues and we were advised to not use print view. 2. When I bring up the find dialogue with Control key plus letter F, after I have done my search, I cannot get the dialogue to close so I can reload the Find command to look for something else in the Word document. My sighted wife says she has to click an X next to the name being searched to close the find dialogue. Seems like we used to be able to use the "escape key" to dismiss the find dialogue. Thanks for any help. John That said, I have no problem using the Jaws find command of jaws key plus control key and letter f. Has the operation of the find function been changed? I used to use office 2003. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home
He lives in Hewitt, a suburb of Waco. Thanks much for the information. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home in order to connect to his wireless do the following after you arrive at his home. Ask him for his wi-fi password. Next search for manage wireless networks. Assuming it finds his network tab over to connect and enter the login credentials he has already given you. If memory serves that is all you need to do. If I may ask, what city does he live in? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:12 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: I live in Houston, and am not currently at my brother-in-laws home. I was wanting the information for future reference. Thanks for the follow up. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home First of all let us both get on the same page. What have you done so far to connect to the internet? IE are you on wireless at this point ETC? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: Okay. What is the next step? I am not sure if this would be "performed" in my internet settings, or what. Thanks for the reply. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home The first thing you have to do is go to your brother in laws house and ask him for his password. More than a few hundred feet away and he might as well be on the moon for all the good it would do for you. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home Morning all. I have never attempted to do this, so I am uncertain as to the process; but how do I access a wify signal from outside my home i.e., my brother-in-laws home in another city? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:
I'm impressed. Bless your heart. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 4/14/2017 9:29 AM, George Marshall wrote: Hi gang: Well I'm probably a little older than Dave and Lenny. I first met Ted Henter when he and I think Derek came down to Fort Myers and they had a seminar at red lobster, I spoke to both of them at that time don't remember the exact date. I was using TSI'S speech synthesizer on an IBM 3280. I and my department director went over to Stuart Florida and watch the demo of an early standalone computer, we didn't buy it. D I then received a modified version of the IBM 3280 with speech, it had a little pad that was connected by a cable that you used to control the speech much like what you do now on a desktop with jaws for speech. E I don't know that I was first or second to buy jaws but I can tell you my serial number is in the low 1100s. P it's been a great trip through version 1 up to 18 now and I've had every version I have long retired from the school system. A I will be 83 years old at the end of June, so this probably puts me as one of the oldest on this list. R Hope this rambling through a little of history helps, tment director George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Lenny, Your age is showing, man. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame computer an IBM 370. After the first or 2nd winter in Maryland Ted left for a warmer climate and started his own company. There was a dispute over the name so he changed it to Hinter Joyce. It was around 1985 when I purchased jaws for dos. In 1995 he released JFW, I was the 47th individual to purchase that product. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first company to own Jaws. The first was "Henter Joyce". Founded by Ted Henter, and, I believe Dean Blazy. It might also interest you to know, Ted henter was blind. He sold the company. to illustrate again how successful we blind people can be. If we just reach for the stars, and develop our fullest potential. Which we do all the time. How far Jaws has come from the time when its initials meant Job Access With Speech. Young people, now days, are indeed fortunate to be able to accomplish, with so much more ease, things which much more effort was taken to achieve a half century ago. Prior to the use of the internet, and when our only printing device was the typewriter. Though, then, once a skill was learned, one could rely on being able to employ that skill for years. Now, it seems, with such rapid changes, it seems new skills must be learned constantly. To accomplish the same things? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home
in order to connect to his wireless do the following after you arrive at his home. Ask him for his wi-fi password. Next search for manage wireless networks. Assuming it finds his network tab over to connect and enter the login credentials he has already given you. If memory serves that is all you need to do. If I may ask, what city does he live in? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:12 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: I live in Houston, and am not currently at my brother-in-laws home. I was wanting the information for future reference. Thanks for the follow up. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home First of all let us both get on the same page. What have you done so far to connect to the internet? IE are you on wireless at this point ETC? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: Okay. What is the next step? I am not sure if this would be "performed" in my internet settings, or what. Thanks for the reply. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home The first thing you have to do is go to your brother in laws house and ask him for his password. More than a few hundred feet away and he might as well be on the moon for all the good it would do for you. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home Morning all. I have never attempted to do this, so I am uncertain as to the process; but how do I access a wify signal from outside my home i.e., my brother-in-laws home in another city? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word
List, Thanks to Adrian and Brian for excellent approaches to using the find function. Again shows how we all on this list can help one another work our way through using new software. Interesting about the navigation pane. John in sunny and warm southwest Florida -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 7:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Brian, I'm sure you're right about the changes you describe here because, for a long time, I avoided using the control-f search command in Word. It's still useful to keep in mind the directions you lay out, and I'm saving them for future reference. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hello Adrian, Yes, you are quite right! I didn't realize that when in the navigation pane pressing spacebar still goes result to result and JAWS speaks the found result. It seems to me that at one time using the navigation pane to find text didn't work very well and most people were making the change I mentioned. Also, I think at that time a person did have to use F6 and shift with f6 but not now. The escape key also now takes focus back into the document pane. Also, the JAWS find is a great alternative. For some reason, I thought it was limited to only search what is shown on the screen at a given time. This isn't the case either. Changing the CTRL F to apply to the EditFind command isn't really necessary any more. Thanks for pointing these things out. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: April 13, 2017 9:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Brian, This is useful information, as always, but it does seem a bit complicated. When I do a control-f search, JAWS reads the current line as soon as the result is found. It's critical not to press any key until JAWS has verbalized that line, or else JAWS gives only the option to search for the next result, with an indication of the total number of results for that search in the document. Having heard the line of text, I have two options. Either I press the spacebar to move to the next result or press escape to go to re-read and possibly edit the text. As you explain, the control-f search doesn't land you directly in the text field. If I elected to stop the search to check that text but then decide to continue searching for that same item, I press control-f again. The same search term is still there, so I just press enter. I'm taken to the next instance of that search term. Once again, the current line of text is verbalized, and I have the same two choices: press escape to go into the text or press spacebar to resume searching. The alternative, of course, is a JAWS find, adding the JAWS key to control-f. In this case, JAWS stays in the text when it finds a result, so you can edit right away. To resume searching for the same term, press JAWS key-F3. Each type of search, Microsoft's and JAWS's, has advantages. I'm afraid this doesn't address John's concern that the escape key no longer cancels his search operations. I don't have an answer for that. I'm using Office 2010, JAWS 18 (last but one release) and Win7. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hello John, It is really best to work in print view when using Word. Keystrokes such as Alt key with delete report the distance in inches between the cursor position and the edge of the paper. As you tab you also hear the distance from the left edge of the paper. When JAWS says that the cursor is one inch from the left, this indicates there is a one-inch margin. Working in print view gives you a lot better understanding of how your document will appear when printed. In Word 2010, CTRL with F does not perform the traditional Find command and take focus into the Find tab of the Find and Replace dialog box. CTRL with F takes focus into the navigation pane. You can do a search in the navigation pane and use the next button to go from result to result but to get into the document to read the result you need to use shift key with F6. After reviewing the result you can use F6 to go back into the navigation pane and use the Next button again. In order to return the CTRL with F to launching the Find and Replace dialog box you need to apply the keystroke to the Editfind command. 1. Press Alt F to displa
Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:
Hi gang: Well I'm probably a little older than Dave and Lenny. I first met Ted Henter when he and I think Derek came down to Fort Myers and they had a seminar at red lobster, I spoke to both of them at that time don't remember the exact date. I was using TSI'S speech synthesizer on an IBM 3280. I and my department director went over to Stuart Florida and watch the demo of an early standalone computer, we didn't buy it. D I then received a modified version of the IBM 3280 with speech, it had a little pad that was connected by a cable that you used to control the speech much like what you do now on a desktop with jaws for speech. E I don't know that I was first or second to buy jaws but I can tell you my serial number is in the low 1100s. P it's been a great trip through version 1 up to 18 now and I've had every version I have long retired from the school system. A I will be 83 years old at the end of June, so this probably puts me as one of the oldest on this list. R Hope this rambling through a little of history helps, tment director George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Lenny, Your age is showing, man. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame computer an IBM 370. After the first or 2nd winter in Maryland Ted left for a warmer climate and started his own company. There was a dispute over the name so he changed it to Hinter Joyce. It was around 1985 when I purchased jaws for dos. In 1995 he released JFW, I was the 47th individual to purchase that product. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first company to own Jaws. The first was "Henter Joyce". Founded by Ted Henter, and, I believe Dean Blazy. It might also interest you to know, Ted henter was blind. He sold the company. to illustrate again how successful we blind people can be. If we just reach for the stars, and develop our fullest potential. Which we do all the time. How far Jaws has come from the time when its initials meant Job Access With Speech. Young people, now days, are indeed fortunate to be able to accomplish, with so much more ease, things which much more effort was taken to achieve a half century ago. Prior to the use of the internet, and when our only printing device was the typewriter. Though, then, once a skill was learned, one could rely on being able to employ that skill for years. Now, it seems, with such rapid changes, it seems new skills must be learned constantly. To accomplish the same things? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home
David: I live in Houston, and am not currently at my brother-in-laws home. I was wanting the information for future reference. Thanks for the follow up. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:26 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home First of all let us both get on the same page. What have you done so far to connect to the internet? IE are you on wireless at this point ETC? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home David: Okay. What is the next step? I am not sure if this would be "performed" in my internet settings, or what. Thanks for the reply. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home The first thing you have to do is go to your brother in laws house and ask him for his password. More than a few hundred feet away and he might as well be on the moon for all the good it would do for you. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home Morning all. I have never attempted to do this, so I am uncertain as to the process; but how do I access a wify signal from outside my home i.e., my brother-in-laws home in another city? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] creators updateRe: A Weird Issue.
My experience is that once you start the process, it does everything itself. At the end you start Narrator for the finishing touches until you land on your desktop. Then turn off Narrator and proceed normally. -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:18 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] creators updateRe: A Weird Issue. when the upgrade begins jaws announces windows is downloading installation files. are there any prompts like to begin press spacebar or something like that. I would like to upgrade from the upgrade assisstant start it then just go to work and when I come home will it be done! -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Probably not, but keep one handy for step two in the process. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Howdy Señor Ferrin, Are you saying then, that the 1st thing to grab, IS NOT, a bleeping hammer?! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Always remember the rule of thumb, start with the easiest thing to fix first. -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Hi Dave, no, I haven't thought of that, I will though. I guess I didn't think of that because when the computer boots everything works like a charm. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Did you try another keyboard? -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Hi listers, I am experiencing a strange issue windows 8.1 64 JAWS 16. When the computer boots up, everything works fine, but after it runs for awhile (an hour aprox), some of the rightside keys start behaving weird. E.g, the right alt key gets stuck to the control, so if I try to perform an action with that key, it activates the ctrl +alt function. The comma (,) and period (.) and question (?) and apostrophy (‘) along with some of the other keys JAWS says some strange symbols I have no idea what they are. This happens in browsers, notepad, ms word and the regular windows apps. I checked the keyboard settings and haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary, and as I said, when the computer boots everything works fine. Any ideas? Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word
Brian, I'm sure you're right about the changes you describe here because, for a long time, I avoided using the control-f search command in Word. It's still useful to keep in mind the directions you lay out, and I'm saving them for future reference. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:40 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hello Adrian, Yes, you are quite right! I didn't realize that when in the navigation pane pressing spacebar still goes result to result and JAWS speaks the found result. It seems to me that at one time using the navigation pane to find text didn't work very well and most people were making the change I mentioned. Also, I think at that time a person did have to use F6 and shift with f6 but not now. The escape key also now takes focus back into the document pane. Also, the JAWS find is a great alternative. For some reason, I thought it was limited to only search what is shown on the screen at a given time. This isn't the case either. Changing the CTRL F to apply to the EditFind command isn't really necessary any more. Thanks for pointing these things out. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: April 13, 2017 9:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Brian, This is useful information, as always, but it does seem a bit complicated. When I do a control-f search, JAWS reads the current line as soon as the result is found. It's critical not to press any key until JAWS has verbalized that line, or else JAWS gives only the option to search for the next result, with an indication of the total number of results for that search in the document. Having heard the line of text, I have two options. Either I press the spacebar to move to the next result or press escape to go to re-read and possibly edit the text. As you explain, the control-f search doesn't land you directly in the text field. If I elected to stop the search to check that text but then decide to continue searching for that same item, I press control-f again. The same search term is still there, so I just press enter. I'm taken to the next instance of that search term. Once again, the current line of text is verbalized, and I have the same two choices: press escape to go into the text or press spacebar to resume searching. The alternative, of course, is a JAWS find, adding the JAWS key to control-f. In this case, JAWS stays in the text when it finds a result, so you can edit right away. To resume searching for the same term, press JAWS key-F3. Each type of search, Microsoft's and JAWS's, has advantages. I'm afraid this doesn't address John's concern that the escape key no longer cancels his search operations. I don't have an answer for that. I'm using Office 2010, JAWS 18 (last but one release) and Win7. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word Hello John, It is really best to work in print view when using Word. Keystrokes such as Alt key with delete report the distance in inches between the cursor position and the edge of the paper. As you tab you also hear the distance from the left edge of the paper. When JAWS says that the cursor is one inch from the left, this indicates there is a one-inch margin. Working in print view gives you a lot better understanding of how your document will appear when printed. In Word 2010, CTRL with F does not perform the traditional Find command and take focus into the Find tab of the Find and Replace dialog box. CTRL with F takes focus into the navigation pane. You can do a search in the navigation pane and use the next button to go from result to result but to get into the document to read the result you need to use shift key with F6. After reviewing the result you can use F6 to go back into the navigation pane and use the Next button again. In order to return the CTRL with F to launching the Find and Replace dialog box you need to apply the keystroke to the Editfind command. 1. Press Alt F to display the File tab of the ribbon. 2. Press Alt T to display Word Options. 3. Use down arrow key in the categories of options until you get to Customize Ribbon. 4. Tab until you find the Customize button and use spacebar. 5. In the Categories list move focus to the Home Tab. 6. In the Commands list locate EditFind. You can press the letter E and then use down arrow until you get to it. Press enter key. 7. Use the tab key to the Press N
[JAWS-Users] creators updateRe: A Weird Issue.
when the upgrade begins jaws announces windows is downloading installation files. are there any prompts like to begin press spacebar or something like that. I would like to upgrade from the upgrade assisstant start it then just go to work and when I come home will it be done! -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Probably not, but keep one handy for step two in the process. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Howdy Señor Ferrin, Are you saying then, that the 1st thing to grab, IS NOT, a bleeping hammer?! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Always remember the rule of thumb, start with the easiest thing to fix first. -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Hi Dave, no, I haven't thought of that, I will though. I guess I didn't think of that because when the computer boots everything works like a charm. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Did you try another keyboard? -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Hi listers, I am experiencing a strange issue windows 8.1 64 JAWS 16. When the computer boots up, everything works fine, but after it runs for awhile (an hour aprox), some of the rightside keys start behaving weird. E.g, the right alt key gets stuck to the control, so if I try to perform an action with that key, it activates the ctrl +alt function. The comma (,) and period (.) and question (?) and apostrophy (‘) along with some of the other keys JAWS says some strange symbols I have no idea what they are. This happens in browsers, notepad, ms word and the regular windows apps. I checked the keyboard settings and haven’t noticed anything out of the ordinary, and as I said, when the computer boots everything works fine. Any ideas? Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:
So, I suppose, if one hadn't "a life", and had nothing better to do with their time, one could figure out, from their serial number how many of the product sold prior to their acquisition of Jaws? For example, if their serial number was 1,2o1, they were the first to own Jaws. Outside of the employees of the company. - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: No, a 4 digit. They started at 1,000 but kept the first 200 for internal use. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Do you have a two digit cereal number? I always wondered whether those cereal numbers were given in numeric order. - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame computer an IBM 370. After the first or 2nd winter in Maryland Ted left for a warmer climate and started his own company. There was a dispute over the name so he changed it to Hinter Joyce. It was around 1985 when I purchased jaws for dos. In 1995 he released JFW, I was the 47th individual to purchase that product. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first company to own Jaws. The first was "Henter Joyce". Founded by Ted Henter, and, I believe Dean Blazy. It might also interest you to know, Ted henter was blind. He sold the company. to illustrate again how successful we blind people can be. If we just reach for the stars, and develop our fullest potential. Which we do all the time. How far Jaws has come from the time when its initials meant Job Access With Speech. Young people, now days, are indeed fortunate to be able to accomplish, with so much more ease, things which much more effort was taken to achieve a half century ago. Prior to the use of the internet, and when our only printing device was the typewriter. Though, then, once a skill was learned, one could rely on being able to employ that skill for years. Now, it seems, with such rapid changes, it seems new skills must be learned constantly. To accomplish the same things? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/