[JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 user

2017-07-08 Thread Judy
Hi, all, I have been blocked from the list for the last week, but now I'm
back. I had asked back then about the person who had decided to go back to
Jaws 16 as she liked it better than 18. Would that person please contact me
off list.I have some questions. Thanks. bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net  Judy &
Libby

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Update Available + What's New, Attention Windows 10 Users

2017-03-10 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

A new Jaws 16 update is out, J16.0.4474.  Below are the download links +
what's knew for this update.  It's mainly for Windows 10 users, read the
Enhancement below the download links before doing anything else!

32 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/164474MAR954/J16.0.4474enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/164474MAR954/J16.0.4474enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4474 (March 2017)

This release contains changes necessary to support internal changes related 
to Microsoft UI Automation (UIA) coming in the next update of Windows 10 
scheduled
for April 2017. It is recommended that users update JAWS 16 at this time.

Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Update Available + What's New, Attention Windows 10 Users

2017-03-10 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

A new Jaws 16 update is out, J16.0.4474.  Below are the download links +
what's knew for this update.  It's mainly for Windows 10 users, read the
Enhancement below the download links before doing anything else!

32 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/164474MAR954/J16.0.4474enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/164474MAR954/J16.0.4474enu-x64.exe

Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4474 (March 2017)

This release contains changes necessary to support internal changes related 
to Microsoft UI Automation (UIA) coming in the next update of Windows 10 
scheduled
for April 2017. It is recommended that users update JAWS 16 at this time.

Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and Enterprise Architect

2016-04-15 Thread Southard, Kevin L
Anyone have any tips on configuring the Enterprise Architect tool from Sparks 
to work with JAWS?  This appears to be another very visual tool that may not 
adapt well for use with JAWS and other screen readers.

Thanks for any input from members of this list.

Kevin Southard
Benefit Customer Connections
Unum - Mail Stop C433
Telephone (207) 575-3556
Facsimile   (207) 575-8454
email: ksouth...@unum.com



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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and MS Visual Studio

2016-02-24 Thread Southard, Kevin L
Anyone have any experience/tips with setting up and configuring JAWS 16 to work 
with MS VS 2013, MS SQL Server 2008 or 2012, and MS Team Foundation Server 
(TFS) 2013 or 2015? Thanks

Kevin Southard (first post for a new member)


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 755 (PA)

2016-01-13 Thread East, Robin
Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you. I did so and still on this particular machine it did not work.
Robin

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Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 13, 2016 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
Restart Outlook after making the changes. 
Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist
Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada
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Of East, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you for this clarification. I have asked for and received "admin rights" 
to make these changes. I have made them no difference still an issue. However, 
a co-worker also made the changes and success. So now I am pondering...
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
This is dependent on the Windows 7 settings, not the Office 2010 settings.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada 
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Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Protected A / Protégé A

Unfortunately, the install package for our Microsoft Office only has Canadian 
English or French Canadian so I cannot change the "language" to US English.

Thank you for this solution though.
robin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755

Robin,
Go to Control Panel, Open the Region & Language settings, change the date 
format to English US and Voil'a. JAWS acts nice with the Outlook 2010 calendar. 
It is the only solution so far.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada

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Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 
755

Unclassified / Non classifié
Folks, I am still having issues with the Outlook Calendar where the current day 
of appointments is readable but as you move to the next day or the previous day 
the information moves on the screen and if you are sighted you see the next day 
or previous day appointments. However, JAWS is stuck on the current day. Total 
loss of focus.

A number of folks including technical Help at Freedom tell me this is fixable 
in the United States. As of today I have no way to correct this for folks in 
Canada.

If you have a solution can you put it to the list or send it to me privately.

The Calendar works well with JAWS 12 but not JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.

Anyone have a step by step solution to fix this issue?

I am using JAWS 16 last build Windows 7, and Microsoft Outlook 2010. I have 
also checked this using JAWS 17 latest build and results are the same.

Thank you
Robin east
Canada revenue Agency

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 755 (PA)

2016-01-13 Thread Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Robin,
Restart Outlook after making the changes. 
Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist
Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you for this clarification. I have asked for and received "admin rights" 
to make these changes. I have made them no difference still an issue. However, 
a co-worker also made the changes and success. So now I am pondering...
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
This is dependent on the Windows 7 settings, not the Office 2010 settings.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Protected A / Protégé A

Unfortunately, the install package for our Microsoft Office only has Canadian 
English or French Canadian so I cannot change the "language" to US English.

Thank you for this solution though.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755

Robin,
Go to Control Panel, Open the Region & Language settings, change the date 
format to English US and Voil'a. JAWS acts nice with the Outlook 2010 calendar. 
It is the only solution so far.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 
755

Unclassified / Non classifié
Folks, I am still having issues with the Outlook Calendar where the current day 
of appointments is readable but as you move to the next day or the previous day 
the information moves on the screen and if you are sighted you see the next day 
or previous day appointments. However, JAWS is stuck on the current day. Total 
loss of focus.

A number of folks including technical Help at Freedom tell me this is fixable 
in the United States. As of today I have no way to correct this for folks in 
Canada.

If you have a solution can you put it to the list or send it to me privately.

The Calendar works well with JAWS 12 but not JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.

Anyone have a step by step solution to fix this issue?

I am using JAWS 16 last build Windows 7, and Microsoft Outlook 2010. I have 
also checked this using JAWS 17 latest build and results are the same.

Thank you
Robin east
Canada revenue Agency

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 755 (PA)

2016-01-13 Thread East, Robin
Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you for this clarification. I have asked for and received "admin rights" 
to make these changes. I have made them no difference still an issue. However, 
a co-worker also made the changes and success. So now I am pondering...
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
This is dependent on the Windows 7 settings, not the Office 2010 settings.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist
Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Protected A / Protégé A

Unfortunately, the install package for our Microsoft Office only has Canadian 
English or French Canadian so I cannot change the "language" to US English.

Thank you for this solution though.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755

Robin,
Go to Control Panel, Open the Region & Language settings, change the date 
format to English US and Voil'a. JAWS acts nice with the Outlook 2010 calendar. 
It is the only solution so far.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 
755

Unclassified / Non classifié
Folks, I am still having issues with the Outlook Calendar where the current day 
of appointments is readable but as you move to the next day or the previous day 
the information moves on the screen and if you are sighted you see the next day 
or previous day appointments. However, JAWS is stuck on the current day. Total 
loss of focus.

A number of folks including technical Help at Freedom tell me this is fixable 
in the United States. As of today I have no way to correct this for folks in 
Canada.

If you have a solution can you put it to the list or send it to me privately.

The Calendar works well with JAWS 12 but not JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.

Anyone have a step by step solution to fix this issue?

I am using JAWS 16 last build Windows 7, and Microsoft Outlook 2010. I have 
also checked this using JAWS 17 latest build and results are the same.

Thank you
Robin east
Canada revenue Agency

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 755 (PA)

2016-01-07 Thread Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Robin,
This is dependent on the Windows 7 settings, not the Office 2010 settings.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist
Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Protected A / Protégé A

Unfortunately, the install package for our Microsoft Office only has Canadian 
English or French Canadian so I cannot change the "language" to US English.

Thank you for this solution though.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755

Robin,
Go to Control Panel, Open the Region & Language settings, change the date 
format to English US and Voil'a. JAWS acts nice with the Outlook 2010 calendar. 
It is the only solution so far.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 
755

Unclassified / Non classifié
Folks, I am still having issues with the Outlook Calendar where the current day 
of appointments is readable but as you move to the next day or the previous day 
the information moves on the screen and if you are sighted you see the next day 
or previous day appointments. However, JAWS is stuck on the current day. Total 
loss of focus.

A number of folks including technical Help at Freedom tell me this is fixable 
in the United States. As of today I have no way to correct this for folks in 
Canada.

If you have a solution can you put it to the list or send it to me privately.

The Calendar works well with JAWS 12 but not JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.

Anyone have a step by step solution to fix this issue?

I am using JAWS 16 last build Windows 7, and Microsoft Outlook 2010. I have 
also checked this using JAWS 17 latest build and results are the same.

Thank you
Robin east
Canada revenue Agency

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 update now available 16.0.4468

2015-12-18 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

Although I have upgraded to JAWS 17, I happened to start JAWS 16 yesterday
and was immediately presented with the JAWS dialog that JAWS updates are
available.  Below are the enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4668.

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 October
2015 release and the December 2015 update.

. Resolved an issue reported by some customers using Outlook where JAWS
would sometimes not read the currently selected message as you navigated
through
a list of messages in a folder. You would hear the message status, such as
"unread", but no additional info, like the message sender or the subject.
. When opening the Advanced Find dialog box in Outlook usingCTRL+SHIFT+F
to search for specific messages and you press 
F6 to move to the message list, a customer reported issue was resolved where
JAWS would sometimes stop reading the selected message if the window
scrolled
as you navigated through the list.
. When navigating a list of messages in Outlook 2016, resolved an issue
where the selected message was not being read as expected using speech or
Braille.
. Resolved an issue where the message list in Outlook 2010 was not being
read correctly after closing a JAWS dialog box.
. Addressed an issue with the Amazon Product Search Research It lookup
source not returning results as expected.
. This update contains new drivers from HumanWare for the Brailiant BI
Braille display in order to support Windows 10.
. Resolved an issue with the German version of JAWS where the Alva ABT 3
series braille display drivers were not available in the Synthesizer and
Braille
Manager.
. Addressed a customer reported issue where buttons on certain web pages
were not being read correctly by JAWS.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-14 Thread Bissett, Tom
In this case it not actually a comment.  They did some thing like this a while 
back probably moving from 12 to 13 when there was a major code change.  
Tom Bisset
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 1:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hi Dave,

Well, what can I tell you?!  This is what FS says, & there must be some kind of 
method to their madness, so to speak!  I don't have the scripting knowledge to 
understand what will happen if the line of text is inserted into the JSS file 
being that the semicolon is at the beginning of the line of text.  From my very 
limited script knowledge that semicolon basically tells Jaws to ignore that 
line of text so, if that's true I wouldn't have a clue as to what that would 
mean.  I guess the important thing would be to know exactly where in the JSS 
file this line of text goes in order to know what effect it would have with 
prior scripts.  My guess would be that this JSS text line insertion is only a 
temporary fix of some sort for Jaws 17 & earlier until FS gets the merge 
utility configured & ready for prime time use.  Hopefully Señor Eric Damry will 
wade in on this topic & clarify for us what's happening.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: Dave Carlson
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Mike,

This makes no sense, what FS posted.

First, it sounds like this makes a JAWS 17 script compatible with prior
versions of JAWS, not forward-compatible.

Second, that line, even without the quotes, is prefaced with a semicolon,
which makes it simply a comment line, and not executed or compiled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17, corrected

2015-12-13 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

In my previous email, I should have referred to jsb files instead of jsx
files.


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Behalf Of Mike O'Brien
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 12:56
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hi

In JAWS 16 and earlier, the line ";#pragma usePoFile 0" (without the
quotes), is simply a comment and is ignored when the script is compiled.
But in JAWS 17, FS changed the default format for the compiled JSB file.  By
default, any JSB file that was compiled in JAWS 17 will not work in earlier
versions of JAWS.  So the above line tells the compiler in JAWS 17 to create
the JSB file in the same format as earlier versions.  Also I'm not aware of
any problems copying JSB files from earlier versions into JAWS 17.


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Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 12:11
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Mike,

This makes no sense, what FS posted.

First, it sounds like this makes a JAWS 17 script compatible with prior
versions of JAWS, not forward-compatible.

Second, that line, even without the quotes, is prefaced with a semicolon,
which makes it simply a comment line, and not executed or compiled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts
that will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the
following line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message -
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-13 Thread Steve
Yes,

I don't know if it will make a difference, but it's worth a shot.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c 
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts 
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following 
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in 
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with 
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-13 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

In JAWS 16 and earlier, the line ";#pragma usePoFile 0" (without the
quotes), is simply a comment and is ignored when the script is compiled.
But in JAWS 17, FS changed the default format for the compiled JSX file.  By
default, any JSX file that was compiled in JAWS 17 will not work in earlier
versions of JAWS.  So the above line tells the compiler in JAWS 17 to create
the JSX file in the same format as earlier versions.  Also I'm not aware of
any problems copying JSX files from earlier versions into JAWS 17.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 12:11
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Mike,

This makes no sense, what FS posted.

First, it sounds like this makes a JAWS 17 script compatible with prior
versions of JAWS, not forward-compatible.

Second, that line, even without the quotes, is prefaced with a semicolon,
which makes it simply a comment line, and not executed or compiled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-13 Thread David Ferrin
This is exactly what I mentioned last week Mr. Mike. That line is only a 
comment and nothing else.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Dave,

Well, what can I tell you?!  This is what FS says, & there must be some kind
of method to their madness, so to speak!  I don't have the scripting
knowledge to understand what will happen if the line of text is inserted
into the JSS file being that the semicolon is at the beginning of the line
of text.  From my very limited script knowledge that semicolon basically
tells Jaws to ignore that line of text so, if that's true I wouldn't have a
clue as to what that would mean.  I guess the important thing would be to
know exactly where in the JSS file this line of text goes in order to know
what effect it would have with prior scripts.  My guess would be that this
JSS text line insertion is only a temporary fix of some sort for Jaws 17 &
earlier until FS gets the merge utility configured & ready for prime time
use.  Hopefully Señor Eric Damry will wade in on this topic & clarify for us
what's happening.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Carlson
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Mike,

This makes no sense, what FS posted.

First, it sounds like this makes a JAWS 17 script compatible with prior
versions of JAWS, not forward-compatible.

Second, that line, even without the quotes, is prefaced with a semicolon,
which makes it simply a comment line, and not executed or compiled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-13 Thread Greg Washington
Yes, and I had a phone consultation with John Carson From FS and he could
not get it to work so it has been escalated to their lead Jaws programmer.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the 
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the 
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Mike B
Hi Dave,

Well, what can I tell you?!  This is what FS says, & there must be some kind 
of method to their madness, so to speak!  I don't have the scripting 
knowledge to understand what will happen if the line of text is inserted 
into the JSS file being that the semicolon is at the beginning of the line 
of text.  From my very limited script knowledge that semicolon basically 
tells Jaws to ignore that line of text so, if that's true I wouldn't have a 
clue as to what that would mean.  I guess the important thing would be to 
know exactly where in the JSS file this line of text goes in order to know 
what effect it would have with prior scripts.  My guess would be that this 
JSS text line insertion is only a temporary fix of some sort for Jaws 17 & 
earlier until FS gets the merge utility configured & ready for prime time 
use.  Hopefully Señor Eric Damry will wade in on this topic & clarify for us 
what's happening.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Carlson
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Mike,

This makes no sense, what FS posted.

First, it sounds like this makes a JAWS 17 script compatible with prior
versions of JAWS, not forward-compatible.

Second, that line, even without the quotes, is prefaced with a semicolon,
which makes it simply a comment line, and not executed or compiled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Dave Carlson
Steve,

To my knowledge, there is no 17.1224 revision. Did you mean 17.0.1214?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in 
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with 
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Dave Carlson
Mike,

This makes no sense, what FS posted.

First, it sounds like this makes a JAWS 17 script compatible with prior 
versions of JAWS, not forward-compatible.

Second, that line, even without the quotes, is prefaced with a semicolon, 
which makes it simply a comment line, and not executed or compiled.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 08:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Mike B
Hi Steve,

Is this the section in what's new in Jaws 17 you're referring to?

Compatibility Mode option has been removed from Script Manager and the -c 
command line switch has been removed from scompile.exe. To compile scripts 
that
will work with prior versions of JAWS, you must now insert the following 
line without the quotes into your JSS file:

";#pragma usePoFile 0"


list end

Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: Steve
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in 
the
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with 
the
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Steve
Did you try putting that command in the .jss file that they referred to in the 
Jaws 17.1224 update.  It is supposed to make some scripts compatible with the 
new script manager.
- Original Message - 
From: Greg Washington
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17


Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,



What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?



Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Greg Washington
Not sure if this will be a problem for you but the scripts for Quicken 2003
do not work in the latest update of Jaws 17 but do work in Jaws 16.  I am in
conversation with Freedom Scientific to see if this can be resolved.
Greg Washington

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

Hello,

 

What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?

 

Thanks,

 

Reed 

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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 scripts with JAWS 17

2015-12-12 Thread Reed Poynter
Hello,

 

What should my expectations be?  Can I copy my scripts compiled under JAWS
16 into my JAWS 17 ENU folder and expect them to work properly?

Anything in particular that I should look out for?

 

Thanks,

 

Reed 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-09 Thread Flor Lynch

LeftAlt+shift works here to switch keyboard layouts.

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 1:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Just to clarify, I think the keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboards 
is actually the left Control and Shitft keys.  The left Alt and Shift keys 
don't work.




From: "Bissett, Tom" 

To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" 
Date: 2015/12/08 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking 
French now.


Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?


-Original Message-

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it 
would be a cure.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.


-Original Message-

From: Rose Combs

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and 
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the 
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.


If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent 
me back to Eloquence.




Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-09 Thread Steve
Hmmm, I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess as to why you get the 
language change when alt-tabbing?

Have you looked in regional settings to see what language you have defined?  
You 
might also need to insure you have the correct location defined in that tab 
which is also in regional settings.
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel L. Gervais
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes


I myself was using RealSpeak Solo Direct for the longest time and swore I would 
stick with a human sounding voice.

But in my job, testing accessibility in my department, I set up a version of 
JAWS that was not configured, pretty much a straight out of the box 
installation.  With all the testing, I kept elequence and have to admit, it 
grew 
on me.

Now, it is the only one I prefer and have not switched back, and don't plan on 
it either.

Like I said in my original message, I just find it odd that once I had disabled 
the language detect setting in JAWS 15, the issue went away, but when I did the 
same change in 16, the issue is still there.  Which I do find pretty odd.




From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Date: 2015/12/08 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the lang

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel L. Gervais
Just to clarify, I think the keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboards is 
actually the left Control and Shitft keys.  The left Alt and Shift keys don't 
work.


From:   "Bissett, Tom" 
To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" 
Date:   2015/12/08 5:34 PM
Subject:    Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking 
French now.  

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?

-Original Message-
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have not 
tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it would 
be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
>From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and lowers 
pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence is 
something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I go 
back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound like 
smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except for 
some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but it 
never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy after 
reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book also 
drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the cadence is 
not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less stable,.  I 
used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages more or less 
and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by the constant 
higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change pitch in the 
middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that I 
could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but I 
don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as I 
recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent me 
back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com 
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happ

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel L. Gervais
Thanks for the tip, after your suggestion, I decided to compare my work
desktop machine with my work laptop machine, as my laptop did not have
this issue, and I noticed that the keyboard settings were not the same. 
So I changed my keyboards on my desktop to match those on my laptop and
voilà, problem solved.

Thanks for the suggestion, this issue was bugging the hell out of me
for quite a while.


From:   "Flor Lynch" 
To: 
Date:   2015/12/08 5:19 PM
Subject:    Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16
and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had
the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar
installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?

-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I
have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or
whether it 
would be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On 
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It
can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if
in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly
enough.

-Original Message-
>From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my
language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday
use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and

lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the
cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices
but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from
the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also
sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine
except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000
but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me
crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open
Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the

cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems
less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288
pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed
by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could
change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be
frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a
high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16,
that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the
case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha
which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been
updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any
better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it
would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them
sent 
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com 
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the

memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]

>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem.
(Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I
find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it
happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no
one 
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom B

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Cristóbal
The only drawback I now have with Vocalizer is when switching between
synths, (eloquence to  VE or vice versa) is that there is a very noticeable
delay in switching back and forth between English and Spanish in my case.
Eloquence to Eloquence is nice and smooth with no real interruption. 
I really do like the overall quality of Vocalizer Expressive. Especially in
Spanish as it really does sound humanlike, but for that annoying lag in
loading when switching over from Eloquence or back to Eloquence.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

IMO, neither RealSpeak Solo nor Vocalizer were up to the standards of 
Eloquence for speed. But witgh Vocalizer Expressive, the situation is now 
more equal.

I also didn't like the way JAWS' Eloquence traditionally treated apostrophe 
characters; (though that seems to have improved latterly).

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I myself was using RealSpeak Solo Direct for the longest time and swore I 
would stick with a human sounding voice.

But in my job, testing accessibility in my department, I set up a version of

JAWS that was not configured, pretty much a straight out of the box 
installation.  With all the testing, I kept elequence and have to admit, it 
grew on me.

Now, it is the only one I prefer and have not switched back, and don't plan 
on it either.

Like I said in my original message, I just find it odd that once I had 
disabled the language detect setting in JAWS 15, the issue went away, but 
when I did the same change in 16, the issue is still there.  Which I do find

pretty odd.




>From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Date: 2015/12/08 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Pinky
Have you tried reinstalling JAWS?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking
French now.  

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?

-Original Message-
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it
would be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
>From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one
else seems to have t

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Flor Lynch
IMO, neither RealSpeak Solo nor Vocalizer were up to the standards of 
Eloquence for speed. But witgh Vocalizer Expressive, the situation is now 
more equal.


I also didn't like the way JAWS' Eloquence traditionally treated apostrophe 
characters; (though that seems to have improved latterly).


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I myself was using RealSpeak Solo Direct for the longest time and swore I 
would stick with a human sounding voice.


But in my job, testing accessibility in my department, I set up a version of 
JAWS that was not configured, pretty much a straight out of the box 
installation.  With all the testing, I kept elequence and have to admit, it 
grew on me.


Now, it is the only one I prefer and have not switched back, and don't plan 
on it either.


Like I said in my original message, I just find it odd that once I had 
disabled the language detect setting in JAWS 15, the issue went away, but 
when I did the same change in 16, the issue is still there.  Which I do find 
pretty odd.






From: "Rose Combs" 

To: 
Date: 2015/12/08 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the langu

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Reed Poynter
If you go to the Start Menu and search for region, it will give you "region
and Language Settings".  This is where you can do this.

Reed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: December-08-15 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Tom,

You might want to explore in the Control Panel for Windows. There is a way
to set up alternative keyboards that can be accessed via a key combination. 
I once used this to change my keyboard to a Swedish keyboard, allowing use
of the three diacritical letters in their alphabet. I also believe that you
can change your Windows native language in a similar manner.

So this may not be a JAWS issue, but may be something you inadvertently set
up in your Windows settings.

Look in "region and language" in the Control Panel for starters.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Bissett, Tom" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes


It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it 
would be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be

matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and 
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence

is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy

after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book

also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the 
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high

rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but

I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated

since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent 
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Dave Carlson
Tom,

You might want to explore in the Control Panel for Windows. There is a way 
to set up alternative keyboards that can be accessed via a key combination. 
I once used this to change my keyboard to a Swedish keyboard, allowing use 
of the three diacritical letters in their alphabet. I also believe that you 
can change your Windows native language in a similar manner.

So this may not be a JAWS issue, but may be something you inadvertently set 
up in your Windows settings.

Look in "region and language" in the Control Panel for starters.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Bissett, Tom" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes


It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it 
would be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and 
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the 
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent 
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Flor Lynch

I think I'd also contact FS direct if I were you with this problem.

Did you uninstall/reinstall Microsoft Office at any stage when using JAWS15 
and JAWS16?


-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking 
French now.


Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?


-Original Message-

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it 
would be a cure.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.


-Original Message-

From: Rose Combs

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and 
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the 
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.


If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent 
me back to Eloquence.




Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Bissett, Tom
Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking 
French now.  

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?

-Original Message-
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have not 
tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it would 
be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
>From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and lowers 
pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence is 
something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I go 
back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound like 
smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except for 
some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but it 
never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy after 
reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book also 
drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the cadence is 
not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less stable,.  I 
used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages more or less 
and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by the constant 
higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change pitch in the 
middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that I 
could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but I 
don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as I 
recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent me 
back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>On Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To:

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Flor Lynch

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?


-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it 
would be a cure.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.


-Original Message-

From: Rose Combs

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and 
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the 
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.


If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent 
me back to Eloquence.




Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)


-Original Message- 

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else seems to have the problem.

Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the 
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, ins

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel L. Gervais
I myself was using RealSpeak Solo Direct for the longest time and swore I would 
stick with a human sounding voice.

But in my job, testing accessibility in my department, I set up a version of 
JAWS that was not configured, pretty much a straight out of the box 
installation.  With all the testing, I kept elequence and have to admit, it 
grew on me.

Now, it is the only one I prefer and have not switched back, and don't plan on 
it either.

Like I said in my original message, I just find it odd that once I had disabled 
the language detect setting in JAWS 15, the issue went away, but when I did the 
same change in 16, the issue is still there.  Which I do find pretty odd.




From:   "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Date:   2015/12/08 2:48 PM
Subject:    Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.  
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.  
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.  

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.  



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com 
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
>Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the 
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of 
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on 
15 but not on 16.

I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Bissett, Tom
It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have not 
tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it would 
be a cure.  
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and lowers 
pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence is 
something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I go 
back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound like 
smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except for 
some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but it 
never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy after 
reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book also 
drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the cadence is 
not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less stable,.  I 
used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages more or less 
and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by the constant 
higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change pitch in the 
middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that I 
could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but I 
don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as I 
recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent me 
back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find though 
that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens with other 
applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one else seems to 
have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the 
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of JAWS 
saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on
15 but not on 16.

I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Flor Lynch
Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on
15 but not on 16.

I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Rose Combs
That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.  
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.  
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.  

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.  



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
>Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the 
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of 
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on 
15 but not on 16.

I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Flor Lynch
If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)


-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one 
else seems to have the problem.

Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys 
on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the 
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of 
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.


I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on 
15 but not on 16.


I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Bissett, Tom
I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find though 
that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens with other 
applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one else seems to 
have the problem.  
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.  
Tom Bisset
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys on 
my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the language 
detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of JAWS saying 
"Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on 15 
but not on 16.

I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel L. Gervais
Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys on 
my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the language 
detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of JAWS saying 
"Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it on 15 
but not on 16.

I would appreciate any help in figuring what I'm doing differently with 16.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Dave Carlson
Give it a try -- what can possibly happen?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Clary" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 03:14 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer


i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom

thank you

-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Neither have I. But some Web sites have already stopped supporting versions
of Internet Explorer below version 11, and more are likely to follow. (These
would usually be those that are more 'secure'.) Unfortunately, Microsoft
accessibility support is not the same as (and is less influential than)
Microsoft Windows (Internet Explorer) support.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

i've never had to contact ms support for anything, even before i
began using jaws

On 11/21/15, Flor Lynch  wrote:
A friend's experience (no matter how well versed they are) doesn't mean 
that


it will be yours also. You'd use 11 because it is currently best supported
and is likely to continue being supported by Microsoft. Soon, if you want 
to


continue to use IE, you will have no choice but to use Internet Explorer
11.

-Original Message-
From: Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
don't change what works

-Original Message-

From: Pinky

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP 
you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can 
use

IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Flor Lynch
Neither have I. But some Web sites have already stopped supporting versions 
of Internet Explorer below version 11, and more are likely to follow. (These 
would usually be those that are more 'secure'.) Unfortunately, Microsoft 
accessibility support is not the same as (and is less influential than) 
Microsoft Windows (Internet Explorer) support.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

i've never had to contact ms support for anything, even before i
began using jaws

On 11/21/15, Flor Lynch  wrote:
A friend's experience (no matter how well versed they are) doesn't mean 
that


it will be yours also. You'd use 11 because it is currently best supported
and is likely to continue being supported by Microsoft. Soon, if you want 
to


continue to use IE, you will have no choice but to use Internet Explorer
11.

-Original Message-
From: Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
don't change what works

-Original Message-

From: Pinky

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP 
you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can 
use

IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom

keep your comments off list, and yes, It's the same tom

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Oh, I see that you, Tom are not the same Tom, the one who refuses to
upgrade. So when I pointed out to David and Alex that Tom  was not wanting
to upgrade and was asking about JAWS 16 and compatibility with IE 9 I was
pointing out Tom Clary and not you Tom. So Tom Clary clearly does not want
to upgrade from IE 9 to IE 11 and Tom (not Clary) is not the same Tom and
does not embrace Tom's opinion on not upgrading.

Okay, Tom, are you up to speed on the message and the meaning?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


no he doesn't refuse to upgrade

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade
to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:

thanks, just telling what others have told me

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
problems at all.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Dave Carlson
Oh, I see that you, Tom are not the same Tom, the one who refuses to 
upgrade. So when I pointed out to David and Alex that Tom  was not wanting 
to upgrade and was asking about JAWS 16 and compatibility with IE 9 I was 
pointing out Tom Clary and not you Tom. So Tom Clary clearly does not want 
to upgrade from IE 9 to IE 11 and Tom (not Clary) is not the same Tom and 
does not embrace Tom's opinion on not upgrading.

Okay, Tom, are you up to speed on the message and the meaning?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


no he doesn't refuse to upgrade

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade
to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:
> thanks, just telling what others have told me
>
> -Original Message- From: David Ferrin
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
> problems at all.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer
>
> i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
> works
> on IE 9
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Holger Fiallo
You know I am using jaws 15 with IE 11 and have no issues. I am sure that is 
the same with 16.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

I don't doubt you Jim but a pause means to me that jaws will come back
talking by itself.  I always need to alt+tab until jaws starts talking
again!

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
IE 11 works great with Jaws 16 and Jaws 17.
No need to worry about using IE 11.
When some people on here use the term, Jaws crashes, this is misleading,
they mean Jaws hesitates.
If Jaws 16 or Jaws 17 crashes, there will be a 30 second wait, then you will
hear, Jaws 16 home or professional  version, the same message you hear after
logging-in to your computer.
However, a short delay of 5 or 10 seconds from Jaws, is not a crash, but a
Jaws delay.
So, if anyone notices this on their computers, please report this to Freedom
Scientific, so they can look into it.
This will help all of us with a pleasant experience when using Jaws.
Just my two cents worth on this topic...




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-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

no need for me to keep being stubborn, but as I said earlier, I've never had
to contact ms for help. maybe I'm just the only lucky person on the list,
but thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Tom, when many blind people have told you that IE 11 works fine, and
when you are told that nothing below IE will be supported soon, what
else do you need for convincing to move on?

On 11/21/2015 8:59 AM, Mario wrote:

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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minor correction. as of January 12 2016.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.

I feel the need to chime in here on this thread.

In defense of Tom, I have rolled back to Internet Explorer 10, due to what
seemed to be an unsolvable problem that I encountered with IE 11 and Jaws 16
this past summer.  IE 11 was installed on my Windows 7 desktop with a
Windows update, and I suddenly found that I could not enter information into
form field edit boxes.  I worked with a very experienced Jaws user, with FS
Tech Support, and with the Microsoft Accessibility Hotline on the issue, but
we could never solve the problem.  My only solution was to roll back to IE
10, and everything worked fine once again.

I fully realize that I am going to have to do something about this issue at
some point, when IE 10 is no longer supported, but for right now, I'm not
sure what that will be.  For now, I'm sticking with IE 10, and am using
Firefox as my alternate browser.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

no he doesn't refuse to upgrade

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade
to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message -
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:
> thanks, just telling what others have told me
>
> -Original Message- From: David Ferrin
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
> problems at all.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer
>
> i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
> works
> on IE 9
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Dave Carlson
Well, excuse me. Seems that you were planning to stick with IE9 because a 
friend told you it was a mistake to upgrade to IE 11? OR did I read your 
message backwards?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


no he doesn't refuse to upgrade

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade
to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:
> thanks, just telling what others have told me
>
> -Original Message- From: David Ferrin
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
> problems at all.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer
>
> i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
> works
> on IE 9
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Kevin
I don't doubt you Jim but a pause means to me that jaws will come back 
talking by itself.  I always need to alt+tab until jaws starts talking 
again!


-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
IE 11 works great with Jaws 16 and Jaws 17.
No need to worry about using IE 11.
When some people on here use the term, Jaws crashes, this is misleading,
they mean Jaws hesitates.
If Jaws 16 or Jaws 17 crashes, there will be a 30 second wait, then you will
hear, Jaws 16 home or professional  version, the same message you hear after
logging-in to your computer.
However, a short delay of 5 or 10 seconds from Jaws, is not a crash, but a
Jaws delay.
So, if anyone notices this on their computers, please report this to Freedom
Scientific, so they can look into it.
This will help all of us with a pleasant experience when using Jaws.
Just my two cents worth on this topic...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

no need for me to keep being stubborn, but as I said earlier, I've never had
to contact ms for help. maybe I'm just the only lucky person on the list,
but thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Tom, when many blind people have told you that IE 11 works fine, and
when you are told that nothing below IE will be supported soon, what
else do you need for convincing to move on?

On 11/21/2015 8:59 AM, Mario wrote:

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom

thank you jim

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
IE 11 works great with Jaws 16 and Jaws 17.
No need to worry about using IE 11.
When some people on here use the term, Jaws crashes, this is misleading,
they mean Jaws hesitates.
If Jaws 16 or Jaws 17 crashes, there will be a 30 second wait, then you will
hear, Jaws 16 home or professional  version, the same message you hear after
logging-in to your computer.
However, a short delay of 5 or 10 seconds from Jaws, is not a crash, but a
Jaws delay.
So, if anyone notices this on their computers, please report this to Freedom
Scientific, so they can look into it.
This will help all of us with a pleasant experience when using Jaws.
Just my two cents worth on this topic...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

no need for me to keep being stubborn, but as I said earlier, I've never had
to contact ms for help. maybe I'm just the only lucky person on the list,
but thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Tom, when many blind people have told you that IE 11 works fine, and
when you are told that nothing below IE will be supported soon, what
else do you need for convincing to move on?

On 11/21/2015 8:59 AM, Mario wrote:

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread jim

Hi Tom,
IE 11 works great with Jaws 16 and Jaws 17.
No need to worry about using IE 11.
When some people on here use the term, Jaws crashes, this is misleading, 
they mean Jaws hesitates.
If Jaws 16 or Jaws 17 crashes, there will be a 30 second wait, then you will 
hear, Jaws 16 home or professional  version, the same message you hear after 
logging-in to your computer.
However, a short delay of 5 or 10 seconds from Jaws, is not a crash, but a 
Jaws delay.
So, if anyone notices this on their computers, please report this to Freedom 
Scientific, so they can look into it.

This will help all of us with a pleasant experience when using Jaws.
Just my two cents worth on this topic...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

no need for me to keep being stubborn, but as I said earlier, I've never had
to contact ms for help. maybe I'm just the only lucky person on the list,
but thanks

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Tom, when many blind people have told you that IE 11 works fine, and
when you are told that nothing below IE will be supported soon, what
else do you need for convincing to move on?

On 11/21/2015 8:59 AM, Mario wrote:

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom

great question george

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

There is another practical side to IE9.  I was using it until about a year
ago & upgraded to IE11 when one day BofA rejected my login until I upgraded.
More & more web sites are doing that with HTML 5 in wider use.
I know for myself that JAWS 16 "works" with IE9 but for me the question is
where can I not go with IE9?
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade

to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:

thanks, just telling what others have told me

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
problems at all.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom

no he doesn't refuse to upgrade

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade
to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:

thanks, just telling what others have told me

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
problems at all.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread George Martinez CPA
There is another practical side to IE9.  I was using it until about a year
ago & upgraded to IE11 when one day BofA rejected my login until I upgraded.
More & more web sites are doing that with HTML 5 in wider use.
 I know for myself that JAWS 16 "works" with IE9 but for me the question is
where can I not go with IE9?
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC 
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589 
Email george.martinez...@cox.net 


  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave Carlson
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade

to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:
> thanks, just telling what others have told me
>
> -Original Message- From: David Ferrin
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
> problems at all.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer
>
> i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
> works
> on IE 9
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Pinky
How long are they going to support Vista? Because you can only use IE9 on
vista. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

A friend's experience (no matter how well versed they are) doesn't mean that
it will be yours also. You'd use 11 because it is currently best supported
and is likely to continue being supported by Microsoft. Soon, if you want to
continue to use IE, you will have no choice but to use Internet Explorer 11.

-Original Message-
From: Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
don't change what works

-Original Message- 
>From: Pinky
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use
IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Dave Carlson
Alex and David,

Tom is actually asking if JAWS 16 will work with IE 9. He refuses to upgrade 
to IE11.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 07:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer


Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David,
i've been using it since the get go.
Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:
> thanks, just telling what others have told me
>
> -Original Message- From: David Ferrin
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
> problems at all.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer
>
> i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
> works
> on IE 9
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Kevin

when IE crashes, an error report is always sent to microsoft!

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

i've never had to contact ms support for anything, even before i
began using jaws

On 11/21/15, Flor Lynch  wrote:
A friend's experience (no matter how well versed they are) doesn't mean 
that


it will be yours also. You'd use 11 because it is currently best supported
and is likely to continue being supported by Microsoft. Soon, if you want 
to


continue to use IE, you will have no choice but to use Internet Explorer
11.

-Original Message-
From: Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
don't change what works

-Original Message-

From: Pinky

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP 
you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can 
use

IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-

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Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Alex Stone
Yes, I can confirm that ie11 works perfectly with Jaws 16. Like David, 
i've been using it since the get go.

Cheers
Alex

On 21/11/2015 15:42, Tom wrote:

thanks, just telling what others have told me

-Original Message- From: David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
problems at all.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
evolved from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it 
works

on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom

thanks, just telling what others have told me

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
problems at all.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom
no need for me to keep being stubborn, but as I said earlier, I've never had 
to contact ms for help. maybe I'm just the only lucky person on the list, 
but thanks


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Tom, when many blind people have told you that IE 11 works fine, and
when you are told that nothing below IE will be supported soon, what
else do you need for convincing to move on?

On 11/21/2015 8:59 AM, Mario wrote:

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread David Ferrin
Yes it does, I've been using IE 11 since it hit the streets without any
problems at all.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

 i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Maria Campbell
Tom, when many blind people have told you that IE 11 works fine, and 
when you are told that nothing below IE will be supported soon, what 
else do you need for convincing to move on?


On 11/21/2015 8:59 AM, Mario wrote:

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Mario

minor correction, as of 1/12/2016.


On 11/21/2015 9:14 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Tom,

From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything
earlier

than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and
internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a
mistake upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I
use 11? I don't change what works

-Original Message- From: Pinky Sent: Saturday, November 21,
2015 6:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re:
[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom, To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with
IE9. May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are
running XP you can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7,
8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use IE11 which is the latest version. Ed
-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Clary Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom Clary
 i've never had to contact ms support for anything, even before i
began using jaws

On 11/21/15, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> A friend's experience (no matter how well versed they are) doesn't mean that
>
> it will be yours also. You'd use 11 because it is currently best supported
> and is likely to continue being supported by Microsoft. Soon, if you want to
>
> continue to use IE, you will have no choice but to use Internet Explorer
> 11.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
> upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
> don't change what works
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: Pinky
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer
>
> Hi Tom,
> To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
> May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP you
> can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use
> IE11 which is the latest version.
> Ed
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer
>
> i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
> on IE 9
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>
>
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>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Flor Lynch
A friend's experience (no matter how well versed they are) doesn't mean that 
it will be yours also. You'd use 11 because it is currently best supported 
and is likely to continue being supported by Microsoft. Soon, if you want to 
continue to use IE, you will have no choice but to use Internet Explorer 11.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
don't change what works

-Original Message- 

From: Pinky

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use
IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On

Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Kurt Miller
Tom,
>From what I hear Microsoft is no longer going to support anything earlier
than IE 11 as of January 15, 2016 but the choice is yours.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 8:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I
don't change what works

-Original Message-
From: Pinky
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use
IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom
a sighted friend, who is very pc literate, told me that he made a mistake 
upgrading to ie 10, so if 10 is not good for him, why would I use 11? I 
don't change what works


-Original Message- 
From: Pinky

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 6:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use
IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 and internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Pinky
Hi Tom,
To answer your question. Yes, Jaws 16 works very well with IE9.
May I asked why you don't want to update to IE11? If you are running XP you
can only run up to IE9 but if you are using W7, 8.0,8.1, or W10 you can use
IE11 which is the latest version.
Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 5:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

 i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it works
on IE 9

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[JAWS-Users] jaws 16 andd internet explorer

2015-11-21 Thread Tom Clary
 i'm finally going to update to jaws 16, and would like to know if it
works on IE 9

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread jim

Try restarting again,
Works fine here...

-Original Message- 
From: dan

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hum, search results still not reading for me after this update?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jim

Sent: 14 October 2015 18:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes some 
w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.

Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16.
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.


To download the latest release, visit the Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.

• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content 
on certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in 
Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research 
It lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected 
and Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.

• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load 
as expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to 
work with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error 
Reporting feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong 
Braille table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not 
completed after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows 
is properly configured to display Hebrew text.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread hwolcott

hi jim:
thanks for this.


howard wolcott

--
From: "jim" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:29 PM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated


Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes 
some w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.

Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16.
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.


To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.
• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for 
Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data 
table were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in 
content on certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed 
first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in 
Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories 
Research It lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer 
reported issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain 
documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected 
and Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.

• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they 
load as expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to 
work with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was 
not working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error 
Reporting feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong 
Braille table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not 
completed

after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when 
Windows is properly configured to display Hebrew text.

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That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread matthew dyer
Hi,

Just updated and it worked fine.  I also installed the beta and both work fine. 
 HTH.

Matthew



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of dan
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hum, search results still not reading for me after this update?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: 14 October 2015 18:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes some 
w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.
Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16. 
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.

To download the latest release, visit the Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.
• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content on 
certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research It 
lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected and 
Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.
• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load as 
expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to work 
with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error Reporting 
feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong Braille 
table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not completed 
after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows is 
properly configured to display Hebrew text.
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A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
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And sail life's sea no more!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread dan
Hum, search results still not reading for me after this update?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: 14 October 2015 18:30
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes some 
w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.
Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16. 
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.

To download the latest release, visit the Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.
• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content on 
certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research It 
lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected and 
Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.
• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load as 
expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to work 
with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error Reporting 
feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong Braille 
table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not completed 
after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows is 
properly configured to display Hebrew text.
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But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread jim
This means that they are built into Jaws 16 latest update, you do not have 
to get them.



-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

What scripts for MS Office 2016 and where would I get them?

"• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load 
as expected with JAWS 16."


George

“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”


George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jim

Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes some 
w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.

Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16.
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.


To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.

• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content 
on certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in 
Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research 
It lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected 
and Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.

• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load 
as expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to 
work with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error 
Reporting feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong 
Braille table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not 
completed

after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows 
is properly configured to display Hebrew text.

list end
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Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

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First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread George Martinez CPA
What scripts for MS Office 2016 and where would I get them?

"• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load as 
expected with JAWS 16."

George

“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC 
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589 
Email george.martinez...@cox.net 


  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes some 
w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.
Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16. 
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.

To download the latest release, visit the 
Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.
• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content on 
certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research It 
lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected and 
Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.
• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load as 
expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to work 
with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error Reporting 
feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong Braille 
table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not completed
after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows is 
properly configured to display Hebrew text.
list end
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Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

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First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 updated

2015-10-14 Thread jim
Hi group,
Freedom Scientific has released a final version of Jaws 16, which fixes some 
w-10 issues.
For example, when typing into the search edit box, now after typing a few 
letters it automatically populates the results list like it should do.
Here is a list of improvements to Jaws 16. 
Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.

To download the latest release, visit the 
Downloads page.

list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.
• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content on 
certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research It 
lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected and 
Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.
• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load as 
expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to work 
with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error Reporting 
feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong Braille 
table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not completed
after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows is 
properly configured to display Hebrew text.
list end
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windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

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Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

author: Perry Boardman

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First College football Playoff National champions!!!

GO BUCKS!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

2015-09-23 Thread Troy Burnham
I thought there was a 30-day trial for the online content as well.  I guess 
I'll have to call about it, I can get logged in but can't get any further.


Troy


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online


Yes, it works better than it used to.  I just opened the Classic Vinyl 
channel from the search box.


I then was a heading that had some on-demand shows from the 60s channel, 
including the special they did with The Wrecking Crew last July.  Although 
Jaws didn't show it as a link, when I hit enter on it, it opened up.


Remember, you have to pay for on-line access, I don't think that is free 
with the free trials.
- Original Message - 
From: Troy Burnham

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online


Has anybody tried to access sirius-xm online stations with windows 7 and
jaws 16?  I signed up for a trial last week but haven't been able to get 
any

further than just logging in.  A month or so ago somebody on the list
mentioned that jaws 16 works better with sirius-xm than it has in the past
but it sounded like the person was using windows 10.

Troy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

2015-09-23 Thread Steve
Yes, it works better than it used to.  I just opened the Classic Vinyl channel 
from the search box.

I then was a heading that had some on-demand shows from the 60s channel, 
including the special they did with The Wrecking Crew last July.  Although Jaws 
didn't show it as a link, when I hit enter on it, it opened up.

Remember, you have to pay for on-line access, I don't think that is free with 
the free trials.
- Original Message - 
From: Troy Burnham 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online


Has anybody tried to access sirius-xm online stations with windows 7 and 
jaws 16?  I signed up for a trial last week but haven't been able to get any 
further than just logging in.  A month or so ago somebody on the list 
mentioned that jaws 16 works better with sirius-xm than it has in the past 
but it sounded like the person was using windows 10.

Troy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

2015-09-22 Thread jim

Hi Troy,
Did the sirius XM site, except your log-in.
You just need your email and whatever password that you set the account up 
with.

If you are still having problems, call this number, they are very helpful.
Sirius radio: 866 635 2349
Good luck...
-Original Message- 
From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 9:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

Hi Jim,

I only tried it once but once I logged in I couldn't move anywhere, up or
down.  Any ideas?  Using IE 11 here btw.

Troy


- Original Message - 
From: "jim" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online



Yes, I use Sirius XM on my windows 10 computer with no issues.
After logging in.
Down arrow to, search, press the spacebar to open the edit field.
Type, a channel number or NFL, or ESPN, or Blues, or rock, or whatever you 
are looking for, Press enter.

Arrow down to the results, for example.
You will hear, graphic channel logo.
Arrow down one time below logo, press enter to play that station.
Press the letter, G for graphic, to jump to the next channel logo, down 
arrow one time, press enter  to play.

Keep pressing the letter g, you will come to:
Tune to next channel, just press enter to go to the next channel.
Tune to previous channel, go back a channel.
There are no links on this page.
You just press enter on certain things.
I hope this helps.
Your w-7 computer, should work the same way...

-Original Message- 
From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

Has anybody tried to access sirius-xm online stations with windows 7 and
jaws 16?  I signed up for a trial last week but haven't been able to get 
any

further than just logging in.  A month or so ago somebody on the list
mentioned that jaws 16 works better with sirius-xm than it has in the past
but it sounded like the person was using windows 10.

Troy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

2015-09-21 Thread Troy Burnham

Hi Jim,

I only tried it once but once I logged in I couldn't move anywhere, up or 
down.  Any ideas?  Using IE 11 here btw.


Troy


- Original Message - 
From: "jim" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online



Yes, I use Sirius XM on my windows 10 computer with no issues.
After logging in.
Down arrow to, search, press the spacebar to open the edit field.
Type, a channel number or NFL, or ESPN, or Blues, or rock, or whatever you 
are looking for, Press enter.

Arrow down to the results, for example.
You will hear, graphic channel logo.
Arrow down one time below logo, press enter to play that station.
Press the letter, G for graphic, to jump to the next channel logo, down 
arrow one time, press enter  to play.

Keep pressing the letter g, you will come to:
Tune to next channel, just press enter to go to the next channel.
Tune to previous channel, go back a channel.
There are no links on this page.
You just press enter on certain things.
I hope this helps.
Your w-7 computer, should work the same way...

-Original Message- 
From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

Has anybody tried to access sirius-xm online stations with windows 7 and
jaws 16?  I signed up for a trial last week but haven't been able to get 
any

further than just logging in.  A month or so ago somebody on the list
mentioned that jaws 16 works better with sirius-xm than it has in the past
but it sounded like the person was using windows 10.

Troy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

2015-09-21 Thread jim

Yes, I use Sirius XM on my windows 10 computer with no issues.
After logging in.
Down arrow to, search, press the spacebar to open the edit field.
Type, a channel number or NFL, or ESPN, or Blues, or rock, or whatever you 
are looking for, Press enter.

Arrow down to the results, for example.
You will hear, graphic channel logo.
Arrow down one time below logo, press enter to play that station.
Press the letter, G for graphic, to jump to the next channel logo, down 
arrow one time, press enter  to play.

Keep pressing the letter g, you will come to:
Tune to next channel, just press enter to go to the next channel.
Tune to previous channel, go back a channel.
There are no links on this page.
You just press enter on certain things.
I hope this helps.
Your w-7 computer, should work the same way...

-Original Message- 
From: Troy Burnham

Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

Has anybody tried to access sirius-xm online stations with windows 7 and
jaws 16?  I signed up for a trial last week but haven't been able to get any
further than just logging in.  A month or so ago somebody on the list
mentioned that jaws 16 works better with sirius-xm than it has in the past
but it sounded like the person was using windows 10.

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[JAWS-Users] Jaws 16 and windows 7 with Sirius xm radio online

2015-09-21 Thread Troy Burnham
Has anybody tried to access sirius-xm online stations with windows 7 and 
jaws 16?  I signed up for a trial last week but haven't been able to get any 
further than just logging in.  A month or so ago somebody on the list 
mentioned that jaws 16 works better with sirius-xm than it has in the past 
but it sounded like the person was using windows 10.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-18 Thread matthew dyer
Hi Jim,

Yes it does.  Jaws just doesn't read it is all.  Not a problem and when
running the beta, I will besure to report this.  I just wanted to be sure it
wasn't just my system first.

Matthew



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Behalf Of jim
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Also, Your computer should give a chime sound, when there is a new
notification.


-Original Message- 
From: Daniel MacDonald
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

i reported this bug in the jaws 17 beta report form. NVDA and system
access read the notifications
Daniel


On 9/17/15, jim  wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Yes, I do understand what you are saying.
> Any notification you want to see will be in the notification center.
> Weather Jaws speaks it or not, it will be there.
> Please let FS know about this issue since it bothers you that much.
> Wining on here will not find a solution for your problem anyways...LOL
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
> notifications.
>
> Hi,
> Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications
> are
> located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
> tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of jim
> Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
> notifications.
>
> All notifications, are in the notification center.
> From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
> Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
> Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through
> the
> list.
> Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
> I hope this helps.
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
> notifications.
>
> Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
> members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of matthew dyer
> Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification 
> are
> not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta 
> fixes
> this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
> before.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-18 Thread matthew dyer
If running the beta, you can use the beta report form and that should get
the job done.  Thanks.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Please, respected friend enlighten me on how does one report such a bug to
fs. Newbie here -Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inamuddin khan
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Respected friend, why don't you report this bugg to freedom scientific?
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-18 Thread David Bailes
Hi,
just to add that you can also open the action/notification center using the 
shortcut windows key + A.

David.

original message:
All notifications, are in the notification center. 


>From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button. 

Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar. 

Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the 
list. Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them. 
I hope this helps. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Daniel
I reported this bug with the JAWS 17 beta report form
Daniel


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

I don't think that he is whining, I think he is just asking if anyone else
has noticed this and knows how to change it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Hi Dan,
Yes, I do understand what you are saying.
Any notification you want to see will be in the notification center.
Weather Jaws speaks it or not, it will be there.
Please let FS know about this issue since it bothers you that much.
Wining on here will not find a solution for your problem anyways...LOL


-Original Message-
From: Dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Hi,
Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications are
located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

All notifications, are in the notification center.
>From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the
list.
Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: Dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notestednoticed that
notification are not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.
Perhaps the beta fixes this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this
was not brought up before.  Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Kurt Miller
I don't think that he is whining, I think he is just asking if anyone else
has noticed this and knows how to change it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Hi Dan,
Yes, I do understand what you are saying.
Any notification you want to see will be in the notification center.
Weather Jaws speaks it or not, it will be there.
Please let FS know about this issue since it bothers you that much.
Wining on here will not find a solution for your problem anyways...LOL


-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Hi,
Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications are
located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

All notifications, are in the notification center.
>From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the
list.
Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Maria Campbell

FS is perfectly aware of the situation.
It will be fixed if and when it will be fixed.

On 9/17/2015 3:05 PM, dan wrote:

Hi,
Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications are
located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

All notifications, are in the notification center.

From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.

Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the
list.
Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread jim
Also, Your computer should give a chime sound, when there is a new 
notification.



-Original Message- 
From: Daniel MacDonald

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

i reported this bug in the jaws 17 beta report form. NVDA and system
access read the notifications
Daniel


On 9/17/15, jim  wrote:

Hi Dan,
Yes, I do understand what you are saying.
Any notification you want to see will be in the notification center.
Weather Jaws speaks it or not, it will be there.
Please let FS know about this issue since it bothers you that much.
Wining on here will not find a solution for your problem anyways...LOL


-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
notifications.


Hi,
Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications
are
located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
notifications.


All notifications, are in the notification center.
From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through
the
list.
Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
notifications.


Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification 
are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta 
fixes

this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Daniel MacDonald
i reported this bug in the jaws 17 beta report form. NVDA and system
access read the notifications
Daniel


On 9/17/15, jim  wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> Yes, I do understand what you are saying.
> Any notification you want to see will be in the notification center.
> Weather Jaws speaks it or not, it will be there.
> Please let FS know about this issue since it bothers you that much.
> Wining on here will not find a solution for your problem anyways...LOL
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:05 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Hi,
> Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications
> are
> located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
> tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of jim
> Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> All notifications, are in the notification center.
> From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
> Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
> Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through
> the
> list.
> Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
> I hope this helps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
> members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of matthew dyer
> Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
> not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
> this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
> before.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread jim

Hi Dan,
Yes, I do understand what you are saying.
Any notification you want to see will be in the notification center.
Weather Jaws speaks it or not, it will be there.
Please let FS know about this issue since it bothers you that much.
Wining on here will not find a solution for your problem anyways...LOL


-Original Message- 
From: dan

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Hi,
Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications are
located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these

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Behalf Of jim
Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

All notifications, are in the notification center.

From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.

Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the
list.
Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



Matthew







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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Daniel MacDonald
will do, right now

On 9/17/15, dan  wrote:
> Hi,
> Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications
> are
> located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
> tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of jim
> Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> All notifications, are in the notification center.
> From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
> Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
> Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through
> the
> list.
> Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
> I hope this helps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dan
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
> members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of matthew dyer
> Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
> not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
> this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
> before.  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread dan
Hi,
Yet again, you don't understand. We already know where the notifications are
located. We are talking about the pop up balloon alerts from the system
tray. These alerts pop up on the screen but jaws 16 fails to read these

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: 17 September 2015 20:02
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

All notifications, are in the notification center.
>From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.
Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the
list.
Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message-
From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



Matthew







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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Jason Tomlinson
at least for me, when I go to my desktop and press tab all jaws says is 
tab and thats it. I can't access the notification area at all with jaws.




On 9/17/2015 14:02, jim wrote:

All notifications, are in the notification center.

From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.

Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go 
through the list.

Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message- From: dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking 
notifications.


Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that 
notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta 
fixes

this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



Matthew







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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread jim

All notifications, are in the notification center.

From your desktop, tab across to your Notification Chevron button.

Right or left arrow to Notification center, press spacebar.
Tab across to see a list of your notifications, down arrow to go through the 
list.

Tab to dismiss all when you are done with them.
I hope this helps.

-Original Message- 
From: dan

Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread dan
Please, respected friend enlighten me on how does one report such a bug to
fs. Newbie here 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inamuddin khan
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Respected friend, why don't you report this bugg to freedom scientific?
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of dan
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread dan
Yup. Nvda and narrator work fine. It's a jaws specific issue exclusive to
win10. So, balloon alerts from the notifications area do not speak as well
as from any other apps like anti-virus, twitter clients etc. surprised fs
failed to pick this up. 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:45
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

interestingly enough NVDA speaks them

On 9/17/2015 13:25, dan wrote:
> Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times 
> but members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of matthew dyer
> Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.
>
> Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that 
> notification are not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  
> Perhaps the beta fixes this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee 
> since this was not brought up before.  Thanks.
>
>   
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

2015-09-17 Thread Jason Tomlinson

interestingly enough NVDA speaks them

On 9/17/2015 13:25, dan wrote:

Finally, someone notices this issue. I bought up this several times but
members did not understand me. This bug remains in jaws 17


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: 17 September 2015 19:17
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 16 in windows 10 not speaking notifications.

Am running windows 10 with jaws 16  and have notested that notification are
not read otmaticlly.  Anyone else experienced this.  Perhaps the beta fixes
this?  Just wanted to throw this out tthee since this was not brought up
before.  Thanks.

  


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