Re: Windows live mail and Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread David Bailes via Jfw
Hi Tom,
just in case you need any additional info on messages rules, they are covered 
in the message rules section in this guide to window live mail:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html

David.

original message:
yes that is what I am trying to do. I am trying to set it up so all Jaws 
list messages go into one folder. Thanks, tom 
-Original Message- 
From: David Bailes via Jfw 
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:39 AM 
To: jfw 
Subject: Re: Windows live mail and Jaws 
Hi Tom, 
concerning the question about adding an email to a group folder. You may 
have already found out how to do this, but if you haven't, can you just 
confirm that what you're trying to do is move a message to a folder that 
you've created in windows live mail. 
David. 
original message: 
Hello my name is Tom, I am runing windos 8.1. My question is how do I 
optamize the calander in this program and how to add an email to a group 
folder and ensure that it goes in there? Thanks, Tom

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RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread Ed Marquette via Jfw
I'm not sure the brand is as important as is the keyboard.  I
think most brands today that don't mess up Windows and make it
somehow proprietary are likely to be fine, and I don't think there
is all that much customization of the operating system these days.
I've used Lenovo laptops since Lenovo took over from IBM.  I used
IBM before that.  I tried, and dumped, Toshiba.  I'm glad to see
others have had success with HP.  I didn't, but that was before
1996.  
I've stuck with Lenovo both because that's my firm's standard and
because the machines work well with JAWS.
Watch out for the keyboard.  My Lenovo Yoga, an ultrabook, not a
laptop, has the best keyboard I've ever used on a portable
computer, except for one thing.  I cannot configure it to have an
applications key and two JAWS keys.
I have another Lenovo that doesn't have an Applications key (and
cannot be configured to have one), but it has two JAWS keys.
I use shift F-10 instead of the Applications key.  It works, but
is nowhere as handy as is the applications key.
So, ideally, you should have an insert key, a capslock key, and an
applications key.  If the laptop doesn't have, or cannot be
configured to have, these keys, I'd keep looking.
 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan
Bobbitt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:42 AM
To: Melissa Stott; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

I've been using nothing but HP since 1999 and JAWS since 1998.
My current laptop is HP as well. I've had to stop some of the
automatic HP programs as someone else posted, but that's about it.
Everything works fine.

Stan
-Original Message-
From: Melissa Stott via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:00 PM
To: Lisa-Maree ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

I have HP Desktop, and works like a charm.  I'm using Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Lisa-Maree via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 7:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I've got an Hp laptop, and windows 7, with jaws 15.  It works
fine.  I have stopped some of the automatic HP programs which ocme
with it from starting, but that's really all you have to do if you
have any conflicts.

Acer is another one where their programs can cause conflicts with
Jaws, but when I upgraded a laptop for a friend, I found turning
off some processes from starting worked fine.  Asus ones will work
straight off.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:39 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with
JAWS. Based on comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of
Hewlett-Packard laptops because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of
extremely useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on
this list don't seem to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're
here to help and be helped, not to argue.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Kadia Hajaj via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the
israeli murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to
terrella1...@yahoo.com

Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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RE: Office 365 accessibility with JAWS.

2014-09-04 Thread Tom Behler via Jfw
Michael:

We switched to Office 365 at work this past Spring. ... I find Outlook to be
very accessible with Jaws, with only a few very minor issues.

I haven't gotten into the calendaring feature yet, and that is next on my
list.

Overall, though, I'd say accessibility should be pretty promising for you.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mote
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 11:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Office 365 accessibility with JAWS.

Hello listers!  I'm wondering how accessible Microsoft Office 365 is with
JAWS?  Has anyone tried to use the service.  I would like your feedback.
Many thanks!

 

 

 

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Stopping jaws from saying new line

2014-09-04 Thread Kimber Gardner via Jfw
Hi All,

Does anyone know if it's possible to prevent jaws from saying new
line every time the end of a line of text is reached when arrowing
through a word document?

I know by doing a say all I can keep this from occurring. But I'm
editing a rather lengthy document and say all doesn't give me the
level of control I need while reading.

I don't really understand the usefulness of the new line
announcement, but I will be content if I can just stop it.

Thanks,
Kimber

-- 
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RE: Stopping jaws from saying new line

2014-09-04 Thread Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Kimber,

Open JAWS quick settings, then type new line. I got one result just now that 
seems to answer your question. I don't have this problem, and I see the 
checkbox that comes up is not checked.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner 
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Stopping jaws from saying new line

Hi All,

Does anyone know if it's possible to prevent jaws from saying new
line every time the end of a line of text is reached when arrowing
through a word document?

I know by doing a say all I can keep this from occurring. But I'm
editing a rather lengthy document and say all doesn't give me the
level of control I need while reading.

I don't really understand the usefulness of the new line
announcement, but I will be content if I can just stop it.

Thanks,
Kimber

-- 
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Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Lauren via Jfw
Hi, 

 

I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking of
signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works best using
Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between gmail and others
for ease of use? 

 

Thanks.

 

Sincerely, 

 

Lauren 

 

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RE: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Travis Smith via Jfw
I have gmail and it works well on Windows 7. There is an option  to display the 
webmail in basic htm;. This is how I use it.


Travis Smith
Receptionist
2773 N. Flannery road
Baton Rouge, LA 70814
Phone: 225-275-1200
Fax: 225-275-1201
www.LighthouseLouisiana.org




The Lighthouse for the Blind in New Orleans, Inc.




-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lauren via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Hi, 

 

I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking of 
signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works best using 
Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between gmail and others for 
ease of use? 

 

Thanks.

 

Sincerely, 

 

Lauren 

 

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Re: Stopping jaws from saying new line

2014-09-04 Thread Mike B. via Jfw
Hi Kimber,

Try the following;

1. Open MSWord;

2. Press, Insert key + V, for Jaws Quick Settings;

3. Down arrow one time, now press the letter, E,  you should hear, editing 
options.

4. Arrow down until you hear, New lines and paragraph indications, now press 
the spacebar until you hear, off,  press enter to save the change  close.

Hope this helps.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Kimber Gardner via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:29 AM
Subject: Stopping jaws from saying new line


Hi All,

Does anyone know if it's possible to prevent jaws from saying new
line every time the end of a line of text is reached when arrowing
through a word document?

I know by doing a say all I can keep this from occurring. But I'm
editing a rather lengthy document and say all doesn't give me the
level of control I need while reading.

I don't really understand the usefulness of the new line
announcement, but I will be content if I can just stop it.

Thanks,
Kimber

-- 
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Feliciano Godoy via Jfw
Gmail is great. They allow you  to choose basic HTML which is more accessible 
for screen reader users. It can be changed to this setting so when you log in 
you are ready to go.


  Regards, Feliciano

Like my Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 
Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v Sent from the Super-iPhone 

 On Sep 4, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Lauren via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 
 
 I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking of
 signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works best using
 Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between gmail and others
 for ease of use? 
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Sincerely, 
 
 
 
 Lauren 
 
 
 
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Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread Mario Brusco via Jfw
yes... I think.

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Krugman via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: dennis dennis...@gmail.com; The Jaws for Windows support list. 
jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws


Is Super the same as Super antispy ware?
Chuck

-Original Message- 
From: dennis
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:05 AM
To: Charles Krugman ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

super is very useable. i use both super and mb.
On 8/30/2014 3:54 AM, Charles Krugman via Jfw wrote:
 Are there any comparable programs to Malware bytes that work with JAWS
 15. Since Malware Bytes became inaccessible I haven't been using an
 antimalware program and have relied on the paid version of AVG.
 Chuck

 -Original Message- From: Melissa Stott via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:30 PM
 To: Lee Maschmeyer ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

 The latest version of Malware bytes is not compatible with Jaws at this
 time.

 -Original Message- From: Lee Maschmeyer via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:17 PM
 To: Tim Ford ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Re: Malware Bites with Jaws

 Why inhibit software updates? They come out with new versions because the
 old one can't deal with the newest threats. It's a very good idea to
 install
 all available updates as soon as they're released.


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RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Hi, 
I have 2 HP laptops running W7 64 bit and JAWS 14. 
So far as I can ascertain JAWS works well with both - but - MAGIC had a real
problem with the newer HP. For whatever reason one component in the newer HP
took strict exception to Magic 12. FS was extremely helpful and they
discovered a bug in Magic 12 which they corrected. 
I would still stick with HP. I am told that the newer Dell laptops also work
very well and are significantly better than the older ones. 
Cy  
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with JAWS. Based on
comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of Hewlett-Packard laptops
because they don't seem to. 

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of extremely
useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on this list don't seem
to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're here to help and be helped, not
to argue.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kadia Hajaj
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the israeli
murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
 if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to terrella1...@yahoo.com

 Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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2014-09-04 Thread j Bron via Jfw
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RE: Annoying Change in Outlook Response

2014-09-04 Thread Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Hi, I believe you could send a thank you message to Microbloat. 
Ever so often some of the updates to the OS do really funny things to what
used to work bery well.
It is a Royal Pain IMO.
Cy

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 1:35 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Annoying Change in Outlook Response

First, the preliminaries. I'm running Jaws 12 on this machine and Outlook
2007. I have the Outlook folder list shut off but I'm using the reading
pane.
About a month ago Outlook started reading things from the reading pane when
I get a new message. This was a change from prior response. Something
changed, and I'm not sure what setting got changed. Any ideas?


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Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread Maria Campbell via Jfw
All of my laptops have been Toshibas, with which I've been very 
pleased.  JAWS works fine with them.



Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 9/4/2014 4:18 AM, Ed Marquette via Jfw wrote:

I'm not sure the brand is as important as is the keyboard.  I
think most brands today that don't mess up Windows and make it
somehow proprietary are likely to be fine, and I don't think there
is all that much customization of the operating system these days.
I've used Lenovo laptops since Lenovo took over from IBM.  I used
IBM before that.  I tried, and dumped, Toshiba.  I'm glad to see
others have had success with HP.  I didn't, but that was before
1996.
I've stuck with Lenovo both because that's my firm's standard and
because the machines work well with JAWS.
Watch out for the keyboard.  My Lenovo Yoga, an ultrabook, not a
laptop, has the best keyboard I've ever used on a portable
computer, except for one thing.  I cannot configure it to have an
applications key and two JAWS keys.
I have another Lenovo that doesn't have an Applications key (and
cannot be configured to have one), but it has two JAWS keys.
I use shift F-10 instead of the Applications key.  It works, but
is nowhere as handy as is the applications key.
So, ideally, you should have an insert key, a capslock key, and an
applications key.  If the laptop doesn't have, or cannot be
configured to have, these keys, I'd keep looking.
  


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan
Bobbitt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 12:42 AM
To: Melissa Stott; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

 I've been using nothing but HP since 1999 and JAWS since 1998.
My current laptop is HP as well. I've had to stop some of the
automatic HP programs as someone else posted, but that's about it.
Everything works fine.

Stan
-Original Message-
From: Melissa Stott via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:00 PM
To: Lisa-Maree ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

I have HP Desktop, and works like a charm.  I'm using Windows 7.

-Original Message-
From: Lisa-Maree via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 7:55 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I've got an Hp laptop, and windows 7, with jaws 15.  It works
fine.  I have stopped some of the automatic HP programs which ocme
with it from starting, but that's really all you have to do if you
have any conflicts.

Acer is another one where their programs can cause conflicts with
Jaws, but when I upgraded a laptop for a friend, I found turning
off some processes from starting worked fine.  Asus ones will work
straight off.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:39 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with
JAWS. Based on comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of
Hewlett-Packard laptops because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of
extremely useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on
this list don't seem to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're
here to help and be helped, not to argue.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Kadia Hajaj via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the
israeli murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to
terrella1...@yahoo.com

Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Hmm, strange indeed. Wonder if anyone else had JAWS read H P as
horsepower? (ROFLROFL)
Cy

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
To: 'Adrian Spratt'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I have 2 HP laptops running W7 64 bit and JAWS 14. 
So far as I can ascertain JAWS works well with both - but - MAGIC had a real
problem with the newer HP. For whatever reason one component in the newer HP
took strict exception to Magic 12. FS was extremely helpful and they
discovered a bug in Magic 12 which they corrected. 
I would still stick with HP. I am told that the newer Dell laptops also work
very well and are significantly better than the older ones. 
Cy
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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with JAWS. Based on
comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of Hewlett-Packard laptops
because they don't seem to. 

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of extremely
useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on this list don't seem
to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're here to help and be helped, not
to argue.

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via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the israeli
murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
 if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to terrella1...@yahoo.com

 Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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Re: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

2014-09-04 Thread Maria Campbell via Jfw

Are you serious--horsepower?


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@sbcglobal.net

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
Blaise Pascal

On 9/4/2014 10:43 AM, Cy Selfridge via Jfw wrote:

Hmm, strange indeed. Wonder if anyone else had JAWS read H P as
horsepower? (ROFLROFL)
Cy

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
To: 'Adrian Spratt'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hi,
I have 2 HP laptops running W7 64 bit and JAWS 14.
So far as I can ascertain JAWS works well with both - but - MAGIC had a real
problem with the newer HP. For whatever reason one component in the newer HP
took strict exception to Magic 12. FS was extremely helpful and they
discovered a bug in Magic 12 which they corrected.
I would still stick with HP. I am told that the newer Dell laptops also work
very well and are significantly better than the older ones.
Cy
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:39 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Kadia,

Freedom Scientific won't state which hardware works best with JAWS. Based on
comments I've read on this list, I'd steer clear of Hewlett-Packard laptops
because they don't seem to.

You'll want to pack in as much RAM as the laptop can support.

Can I suggest that you're more likely to get a wide range of extremely
useful advice if you steer clear of politics? People on this list don't seem
to take kindly to non-tech opinions. We're here to help and be helped, not
to argue.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kadia Hajaj
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:27 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: About Buying a new laptop which works well with Jaws

Hello,
My name is Kadia, an israeli blind woman, strongly opposed to the israeli
murderous regime .
My question is regarding buying a new laptop.
How do you decide which model to buy?
Do you get any specific recommendations from your Jaws dealers?
  if so, what models, system requirements are you guided to buy?
If you wish to contact me directly, you can email to terrella1...@yahoo.com

  Thanks for your advice,
Regards,
Kadia


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Re: Google and JAWS

2014-09-04 Thread Siju Samuel via Jfw
Can any one share your thoughts on how Chrome browser works for
normal/common web pages ( like cnn.com or any other news sites  etc).Thanks
in advance.

regards,
siju samuel


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Cristóbal via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
wrote:

 Chrome and Jaws are a complete no-go.
 Google services are getting better at working with Jaws. I use Sheets and
 am
 able to get around it well enough. Can't say I've played around with Docs.
 The main thing is to either work with the virtual cursor or use the Jaws
 cursor depending on the service you're working in.
 Give:

 http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/07/08/accessibility-in-google-apps-an-overview/
 A read.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 3:36 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Google and JAWS

 Hi all -- I'm new to this list. For context, I'm losing my eyesight slowly
 to retinitis pigmentosa, and as a consequence, I've been slowly learning
 JAWS with an end-goal of doing all my computing tasks with JAWS and
 foregoing visual use altogether. All has been going well, except for
 Google.

 The main problem is the internet browser. Google Chrome and JAWS just don't
 play well together. Well, okay, so I switch to Internet Explorer or
 Firefox,
 right? Unfortunately, those browsers don't play well with the web-based
 Google services I use, such as Google Docs, GMail, and Google Code.

 So my preference would be to continue to use Google Chrome, and find ways
 to
 make it work with JAWS. So far I haven't been having much luck.

 One specific problem is that any time I follow a link to a new page, JAWS
 doesn't realize the page has changed. The Say All command, or the Read Next
 Line commands, just read text from the old page. Even though Google Chrome
 is corrently displaying the new page (I have some eyesight left, so I can
 see this).

 The other problem is the two different formats that most Google web pages
 use: Standard, and Basic HTML. Standard format definitely has problems with
 JAWS. Basic HTML works better, but the interface is practically unusable.
 Google has put very little effort into making their Basic HTML pages
 usable.
 And my pleas to Google to add some very basic features to Basic HTML have
 fallen on deaf ears.

 So, here I am, posting to the JFW list. Does anyone have any helpful hints
 on using Google Chrome with JAWS? How about using Google standard format
 web
 pages with JAWS? Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Marianne Denning via Jfw
When I signed up for my gmail account it was easier than yahoo but
that may have changed.  If you have Outlook you can use it to access
any account you set up.

On 9/4/14, Lauren via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,



 I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking of
 signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works best
 using
 Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between gmail and others
 for ease of use?



 Thanks.



 Sincerely,



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RE: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Hi,
Yahoo has become a genuine nightmare for screen readers. Their new format
sucks IMO.
Cy

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marianne
Denning via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 9:36 AM
To: Lauren; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

When I signed up for my gmail account it was easier than yahoo but that may
have changed.  If you have Outlook you can use it to access any account you
set up.

On 9/4/14, Lauren via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Hi,



 I can't access my Verizon account on their web site and so am thinking 
 of signing up an alternative web-based mail account? Which one works 
 best using Jaws 14? I have Windows 8.1. Is there a difference between 
 gmail and others for ease of use?



 Thanks.



 Sincerely,



 Lauren



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Re: Stopping jaws from saying new line

2014-09-04 Thread Kimber Gardner via Jfw
Thanks Adrian. That did work, but it also reminded me why I never used
it. When you uncheck the box for new line and paragraph marks, you can
no longer have the paragraph marks identified as you read. I'm not
sure why the two marks are lumped together as I find the paragraph
marks helpful where as the new line indication is simply annoying.

But thank you for the assistance. Perhaps I will email FS and see if
this option vcan be turned into two separate boxes.

Kimber

On 9/4/14, Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 Kimber,

 Open JAWS quick settings, then type new line. I got one result just now
 that seems to answer your question. I don't have this problem, and I see the
 checkbox that comes up is not checked.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 8:30 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Stopping jaws from saying new line

 Hi All,

 Does anyone know if it's possible to prevent jaws from saying new
 line every time the end of a line of text is reached when arrowing
 through a word document?

 I know by doing a say all I can keep this from occurring. But I'm
 editing a rather lengthy document and say all doesn't give me the
 level of control I need while reading.

 I don't really understand the usefulness of the new line
 announcement, but I will be content if I can just stop it.

 Thanks,
 Kimber

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Re: Google and JAWS

2014-09-04 Thread Paul Martz via Jfw
Well, as I mentioned in the first post on this thread, my experience has
been that when I follow a link in Chrome, Chrome follows the link and
displays text from the new page, but JAWS still thinks its on the old page.
I've opened an issue report with Freedom Scientific regarding this, but
haven't been contacted by them yet.
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RE: Google and JAWS

2014-09-04 Thread Bissett, Tom via Jfw
I see this behavior in IE as well.  What I do is use insert+escape to refresh 
the screen.  It then reads the new page.
Regards
Tom Bisset
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Paul Martz via Jfw
Sent: September 4, 2014 3:56 PM
To: Siju Samuel; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Google and JAWS

Well, as I mentioned in the first post on this thread, my experience has been 
that when I follow a link in Chrome, Chrome follows the link and displays text 
from the new page, but JAWS still thinks its on the old page.
I've opened an issue report with Freedom Scientific regarding this, but haven't 
been contacted by them yet.
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Paul Martz via Jfw
Wow! I have no clue how you folks can stand to use GMail in Basic HTML
mode. It lacks even the most basic usability features, such as mark all as
read. And organizing mail into folder hierarchies is truly painful in
Basic HTML mode.

The real difficulty with JAWS isn't GMail itself, it's the browser. Chrome
has serious issues with JAWS, and Internet Explorer has serious issues with
almost every Google web page, including GMail. Currently I'm trying to make
things work with Internet Explorer, viewing the GMail page in standard
mode. Aside from the fact that Internet Explorer keeps crashing, this is
working pretty good.
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Paul Martz via Jfw
I concur with Cy that Yahoo Mail's recent changes were not for the better.
   -Paul


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Cy Selfridge via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
wrote:

 Yahoo has become a genuine nightmare for screen readers. Their new format
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Tim Ford via Jfw
I am using Windows Live Mail to my Gmail account, and I like it very much. 
WLM gives you the types of features lacking in Gmail HTML mode.


Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: Paul Martz via Jfw

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 1:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Wow! I have no clue how you folks can stand to use GMail in Basic HTML
mode. It lacks even the most basic usability features, such as mark all as
read. And organizing mail into folder hierarchies is truly painful in
Basic HTML mode.

The real difficulty with JAWS isn't GMail itself, it's the browser. Chrome
has serious issues with JAWS, and Internet Explorer has serious issues with
almost every Google web page, including GMail. Currently I'm trying to make
things work with Internet Explorer, viewing the GMail page in standard
mode. Aside from the fact that Internet Explorer keeps crashing, this is
working pretty good.
  -Paul
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Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

2014-09-04 Thread Melissa Stott via Jfw

Yahoo is definitely not user friendly.

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Martz via Jfw

Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 4:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Witch webmail works best with Jaws?

Wow! I have no clue how you folks can stand to use GMail in Basic HTML
mode. It lacks even the most basic usability features, such as mark all as
read. And organizing mail into folder hierarchies is truly painful in
Basic HTML mode.

The real difficulty with JAWS isn't GMail itself, it's the browser. Chrome
has serious issues with JAWS, and Internet Explorer has serious issues with
almost every Google web page, including GMail. Currently I'm trying to make
things work with Internet Explorer, viewing the GMail page in standard
mode. Aside from the fact that Internet Explorer keeps crashing, this is
working pretty good.
  -Paul
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Re: unsubscribe

2014-09-04 Thread Stephanie Switzer via Jfw
404 Unsubscribe is not found via this email address, nor by posting
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Another Problem with Jaws 15 and MS word 2010

2014-09-04 Thread Sirena via Jfw
I'm having my own problem with jaws and MSWord.

Whenever I get to a new page in a word document, one of two things happens.

When I use the arrow keys to navigate, wishing to read what I've just
written, Jaws makes the sound as if I'm at the top of the document. It won't
go to the previous page unless I use the control key.

Or...

When I'm reading through my document, if I'm arrowing to the previous page,
it jumps to the *top* of the previous page and I have to control down arrow
to get to the place I want. And if that place is at the end of a page, I'd
better use the left or right arrows quickly to rush to my spot before Jaws
leaps to the top of the previous page again.

Any ideas? It's highly annoying when writing lengthy pieces.

Si


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RE: unsubscribe

2014-09-04 Thread j Bron via Jfw
I just went to this link and tried unsubscribing.  I don't remember my password 
and entered what I think it was.  I couldn't find a confirmation button to 
unsuvscribe.  Just unsubscribe me.  Judith

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Re: Firefox and Jaws

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