KR> KR for sale.

2012-12-31 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Not my airplane.  Don't know the guy.  Have no interest other  than help 
others interested find an airplane.

Craigslist in Dallas has this ad:

_http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/rvs/3492939198.html_ 
(http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/rvs/3492939198.html) 

Looks expensive, but super nice.



KR> Unpainted iron on fabric

2012-10-06 Thread tinya...@aol.com
There was a guy looking for the USA distributor website for the iron on  
fabric that don't require paint.  I couldn't find it to start with, but  found 
it in the online "Experimenter" magazine article.  Here is the web  site:

_http://www.betteraircraftfabric.com/_ 
(http://www.betteraircraftfabric.com/) 


KR> RE: Weight Testing.

2012-02-13 Thread tinya...@aol.com
This really hasn't a lot to do with KR's, but wanted to  mention a setup 
that was used in a Velocity.  There was some study about  "deep stall" 
condition where the canard airplanes stall, then go flat and come  down 
vertically 
like a leaf falling from a tree.  The airplane will not  pitch over to 
recover in certain balance conditions.  This was tested using  a sliding weight 
to find how the aircraft reacted to different balance  levels.  The weight 
had a screw jack that allowed the pilot to move the  weight to change and hold 
in different locations in the airplane.  Yep, he  found out what deep stall 
was all about and went clear to the ground.   Actually water as I remember 
it.  There was an article in SA or Kitplanes  years ago on this.  Seems the 
airplane received very little damage after  falling vertically from several 
thousand feet!  Bet he needed a change of  britches after that!!

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow maybe half done.




In a message dated 2/13/2012 7:35:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
robert7...@aol.com writes:


Dan,

I used an Army duffle bag and filled it up with read  mix cement bags, one 
at a time progressing up to the max weight. Duffle bag  was secured with the 
passenger seat belt. I did not do any stalls with the max  weight - didn't 
want any unneccessarity suprises. Worked  fine.

Thanks,

Rob Schmitt
N1852Z




From:  "Dan Heath" 
Subject: KR> Weight  Testing
To: "'KRnet'" 
Message-ID:  <01cce987$0e046e90$2a0d4bb0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"

I believe that to satisfy your gross weight,  you must test the plane to 
that
gross weight along with a W&B of the  plane at the time of the test.  I 
still
need to test my plane to the  1200 # gross weight that I have arbitrarily 
set
for it.  I tried to go  to the EAA site for help, but they have so many log
ins for so many  different parts of the web site that I could not  find
anything.



So my question to all you who are currently  flying your KR and have
established your Gross Weight, how did you test for  that weight?  I think 
it
is a very scary thing to fill your cabin with  heavy junk, so I know there
must be a safe way, but I have never heard it  discussed.




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KR> annunciators box

2012-02-13 Thread tinya...@aol.com
That switch is either on or off, not to detect levels.   They are good 
switches though.  Use them at work in a horrible  corrosive environment and 
have 
only seen one bad one in 10+ years of  use.

Kevin.




In a message dated 2/13/2012 7:04:40 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
jose.fuen...@gmail.com writes:

The fuel  level swtich I use is from http://fluidswitch.com/pages/fs11.htm

Seems  to do well

Joe

On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Jeff Scott   wrote:

> The plate type of capacitance  transducers are known for reading pretty
> inaccurately due to the  sloshing in the tanks. The feedback I have heard 
is
> that they work  just fine on the ground, but as soon as the plane is 
moving
> and  bouncing around the fuel gauges become relatively useless. If someone
>  else has been flying with them and has a different experience, I'd  sure
> like to hear it.
>
>  I did install capacitance  gauges in my KR. I used the transducers from
> Westach, which are a 1/4"  aluminum tube with a wire suspended in the 
center
> that is used to  measure the capacitance. I found the tube type 
transducers
> to be  accurate and work quite well in rough air. I have had a history of
> the  Westach transducers losing the ground where the ground wire is 
riveted
>  onto the 1/4" tube with a cheap pop rivet, but addressed that issue by
>  wrapping and zipping them down tight with some .020 safety wire. I've  
been
> flying with these gauges in my KR for 15 years now. It's worth  noting 
that
> the more modern Westach transducers come with the ground  wire already
> wrapped around the tube at the  rivet.
>
>  Craig, my fuel system is set up similar to yours  with a 9 gallon header
> and two 6 gallon aux tanks that get transferred  to the header. Maybe it's
> just me, but in 900 hours I have never  failed to look at the fuel gauge 
and
> transfer fuel from the wings to  the header. In fact, it is rare for me to
> ever allow the header to go  below 1/2 tank until after the wing tanks are
> dry. However, I have  forgotten to shut off the tranfer pumps a few times,
> so was pumping  excess fuel to the header which was sending it overboard.
> Don't try to  over think it as all the warnings can become a distraction.
> You may  find yourself responding to warnings that may not necessarily be 
as
>  critical as just flying the plane first. The only annunciator I have in  
my
> plane is the traffic proximity warning on my PCAS. That's one that  gets 
my
> attention, but after more than one near miss while in cruise  flight, I 
want
> it to get my attention.
>
>  Jeff  Scott
>  Los Alamos, NM
>
> - Original Message  -
> From: Craig Williams
> Sent: 02/11/12 04:36 PM
> To:  KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> annunciators box
>
>  Mark  You may want to look at Jim Weirs (June 2000 kitplanes) design for 
a
>  capacitive fuel gauge. It's what I am going to use. No moving parts and  
no
> need to ever go back in the tank. It also has an alarm for low  fuel. That
> will be useful for me because I do not plan on having and  external fill
> capability on the mains, all fuel goes through the aux  and transfers to 
the
> mains via a pump.  http://www.rst-engr.com/kitplanes/ Although I will have
> the low fuel  alarm I decided to build the timer circuit to alert me every
> hour to  transfer fuel. The 0-200 will burn my mains down to half full 
each
>  hour. Then I flip on the pump switch and watch the gauge climb back to  
full
> and shut her off. (<2 min) If fuel won't transfer then I have  one hour to
> fix it or land. Craig www.kr2seafury   
From:
> Mark Langford   To: KRnet  Sent:  
Saturday,
> February 11, 2012 2:44 PM Subject: Re: KR> annunciators  box The reason I
> have a fuel transfer LED (and it's just green and  doesn't flash) is 
purely
> for information that the pump really is  getting power, and that it shuts
> off automatically when it's supposed  to, after about three minutes. I 
agree
> that the automatic level switch  makes a lot of sense, but I've got two 
dead
> fuel level sensors in two  different tanks in my plane, both of which 
lasted
> a mater of weeks  before they croaked, so I hope folks choose better than 
I
> did in that  regard (Compac Engineering). I'd be tempted to find an
> automotive  (either factory or aftermarket) level sensor that has the 
extra
>  connection for a "low fuel" light, and use that to trigger a warning  
light,
> just like in your car. But I've found in my plane that I never,  not once,
> ran the main tank out of fuel, for the reasons Matt  mentionedthe fuel
> gauge in the header tank is something I glance  at quite often, and when 
it
> drops to the point that it could hold  another couple of gallons, I shoot 
it
> over there. The "fuel transfer"  light is just to let me know if the pump 
is
> receiving power or not  (and hopefully working). That's not to say that I
> didn't know what the  gauge looked like when it was dead empty. Part of my
> annual inspection  is t

KR> Inline powered KR's

2011-12-10 Thread tinya...@aol.com
It's a Honda Fit engine.




In a message dated 12/10/2011 7:38:37 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
fles...@frontier.com writes:

At 06:18  AM 12/10/2011, you wrote:
>I haven't seen one but if the Corvair did not  work out my second 
>choice would be the Viking110.   
http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/Home.html
>Craig
>www.kr2seafury.com
>Corvair  2780

+

I'm  not sure I'd feel comfortable flying behind and engine that had 
to turn  nearly 6000 rpm to make it's power.  Give me my slow turning  
Continental.

Is this engine a Honda base or Subaru base?  Info  indicates it is a 
Sube but it says Honda parts.  Rather expensive too  at $13,000 plus 
accessories.

Larry  Flesner


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KR> KR crash

2011-10-07 Thread tinya...@aol.com
It appears it went in very hard.  Maybe nearly straight in as small as  the 
debris field is.  There is a piece of nose cowl piece in the video that  
appears to be in primer rather than painted.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow 




In a message dated 10/6/2011 10:12:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
kr2coo...@comcast.net writes:




News story http://www.wcyb.com/video/29410809/index.html  

Jack Cooper 

Chuckey  TN
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KR> EAA survey

2011-07-05 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Good luck with the reduction in fees.  I have collector cars and the  
"fancy" car shows want me to PAY to show my car.Uh..NO!   Yeah, I know. 
 
I am talking cars, you are talking  airplanes.  However, you get the idea.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO






In a message dated 7/5/2011 5:37:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com writes:

Hey,All  you guys filled out the Eaa survey??? One point i tried to make 
was that I  beleive that people that fly their planes to OSH or SNF should be 
gien a break  on fees - after all they are the show.Joe  
Hortonhttp://www.zipsurvey.com/LaunchSurvey.aspx?ieid=5365746&key=20AD4EBC

57  Year Old Mom Looks 27!
Mom Reveals $5 Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered  Doctors!
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4e1391d68004e248ef3st04duc
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KR> BMW bike engine on aircraft

2011-07-05 Thread tinya...@aol.com
There is a Kolb for sale on Barnstormers with a BMW bike engine on it.  
He has a Youtube video showing it fly.  Seems to do ok.  The engine is 
running uncowled.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow  (in progress)





KR> BMW engine

2011-07-02 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Better check the weight of that BMW engine.  It is one HEAVY 2  cylinder 
engine.  I wanted to use one in a Streak Shadow, but the weight  isn't good.  
A VW engine is lighter, cheaper, but not as much power.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO.




In a message dated 7/2/2011 5:22:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
rdrace...@aol.com writes:

Why  would you need the gearbox?  Couldn't you just attach the  propeller  
directly to the flywheel, or to the front of the crankshaft   somehow.  I 
have 
ridden BMW twins for years, and they chug along  quite  comfortably at 
3200-3400 rpm.  It seems like that would  be just about right  for a KR1.  
and I 
would think the light  weight would be an asset.  If  C.G. is a problem 
couldn't you  just extend the front end a tad to give the  engine more Arm 
and  
balance it out?

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA


In a message  dated 7/2/2011 7:42:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,   
kleirf...@ecomail.org writes:

Another  issue that came to mind  about the BMW engine is that gearbox, it 
is just  
another thing  to break, where an O-200 would just be a direct   drive.
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KR> Kr1 wood, castings kits and plexi bubble?

2011-04-23 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Did you sell the KR1 kit?  I am still interested.  I am just  waiting on a 
price, or a notification that it went on ebay.  I would  probably still be 
interested in the Renault LeCar. 

Thanks
Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 4/15/2011 5:33:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
nei...@innevi.com writes:

Hi,
My name is Neil Hochstedler and I'm new to the KR list. My  family is 
dealing with my father's estate and we've found what I believe  are 
the plexiglass bubble, wood and castings kits for a KR1.

Dad  bought this kit back in the mid to late 70s when he was spraying 
urethane  foam and I was dragracing VWs and taking flying lessons. He 
thought we had  a good skills match for a father/son collaboration and 
we did, but for a  number of reasons the project never quite got off 
the ground. (Sorry, I  couldn't resist.) So the parts kicked around 
for a while and got lost  among the rest of his collection.

I believe the kits are still complete  as he bought them. They've been 
moved at least twice from building to  building, always under cover 
except for the photoshoot which can be viewed  at 
http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff385/neilho/. Except for the  
plexi bubble, they're in their original packaging. One of the wood  
packages is about 60" long, the other about 12'. Some of the 12' long  
pieces of wood have water stains over the last 4" or so on one end  
(see the photo), but all the wood is now dry, straight and in  
excellent condition. In the "castings kit" are some castings, some  
aluminum piano hinges, some aluminum bar stock (6061T6, I believe) 
and  some aluminum extrusions of unknown alloy. There's probably a 
parts list,  packing list and instructions somewhere too, but we 
haven't found them yet  and don't know what all these parts are.

So, we have a few questions,  including:  Are these parts indeed for a 
KR1? What are they? Are they  still useful to anyone, and if so, whom? 
etc, etc. Any comments,  information  and opinions would be very welcome.

I can also be  reached by email at nei...@innevi.com and at 802.685.3129.

Thanks for  your  time,
Neil


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KR> Pneumatic retracts on a KR2S

2011-02-19 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I didn't see any pneumatic retract mechanism.  I did see a servo motor  
driving an ACME screw.  The next video had a KR2 with a V6 of some kind in  in. 
 Looked like a belted air power reduction drive setup.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 2/18/2011 11:18:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au writes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDLinTFgwbc&feature=autoplay&list=UL-GgBwI4te
io&index=3&playnext=1

Paul  Smith
Brisbane,  AUSTRALIA
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/


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KR> fuel tanks

2011-02-13 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Robert,
  I just went though your photobucket photos and I must say that is  one 
OUTSTANDING KR!!  My favorite part is the one piece wing.  NICE  NICE NICE

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
(Streak Shadow)


In a message dated 2/13/2011 8:33:26 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
rkp...@comcast.net writes:





Dan, 

What thickness was the material  you use on your fuel tanks? I'm thinking 
about building my header tank.  

Robert Pesak 

Hermitage, Tn.   

http://photobucket.com/robertskrs
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KR> Re: KR/Tandem seating?

2011-01-31 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Pat,
  What is that F14 looking wooden airplane?!!  What happened to  it?  Did 
it fly?

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO



In a message dated 1/31/2011 6:58:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
patru...@myfairpoint.net writes:

http://home.myfairpoint.net/~patrusso/PhotoAlbums/album_1294845815/
Ed  Try this.  As you can see, I did have plans for the Horizon but have  
since sold them and my son has plans for the Sonerai II. Think simple but be  
reasonable. Make a mock up of your seating area, placing the front 
passenger  on the Main Spar...approximate location of the CG. Work from there. 
Sketch out  a side view of the aircraft to ascertain leg and head room, then 
lengthen the  fuselage to get the appeal. Aesthetics does play a part here. "A 
good looking  aircraft will fly well" That's a quote from the designer of the 
Falco! If the  photos do not come thru, let me know. I am always having 
problems with  computers!!
Pat
- Original Message - 
From:  Edward Spyker 
To: Patrick and Robin Russo 
Sent: Sunday,  January 30, 2011 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: KR/Tandem  seating?


Thank you for the reply. Weight and balance were my  biggest concern and 
photos of your progress would be welcome. Did you buy  plans for Sonerai and 
Horizon or find adequate reference material on the  web?





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KR> (no subject)

2011-01-10 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Did you buy the one up by Macon, MO?

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow




In a message dated 1/10/2011 8:00:27 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
russellspho...@yahoo.com writes:

Russell  Sing
1406 Chickadee Dr.
Mexico, MO 65265
573.253.4501

I just  purchased a kr2 kit and would like to get as much support as 
possible.  I  
was told by the gentleman I bought the kit from that I should get on here  
to get 
ideas and support.  


Thank you,  

Russell




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KR> Foam cutting large scale

2011-01-02 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Interesting web site with that hot wire material.  

You guys aren't thinking your going to use this wire for HOT wire cutting  
are you?  I think this is to be used in some sort of machine that would  
move the wire like a saw blade, similar to a band saw.  Trying to  heat this 
wire to cut with shouldn't work because it is coated with  diamond (or 
whatever) that would make the wire surface cooler.  The surface  temperature is 
what your trying to cut with on a hot wire.  If your getting  accurate cuts 
with 4' chunks of foam, that should be fine as you wouldn't have  to glue many 
sections together to get the full wing span.  

Please correct me if I am wrong.  It has happened before.   ;-)

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow.




In a message dated 1/2/2011 5:19:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
djgaryl...@verizon.net writes:

Pat try  this for a  start

http://www.mtixtl.com/diamondwireof028mmdiax65ml215feetforwiresawcutting-dw0
28x60.aspx

This  is about a buck a foot, I have seen it at .25 a  foot.

Gary




- Original Message - 
From:  "Patrick and Robin Russo" 
To: "KRnet"  
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 8:14 AM
Subject:  Re: KR> Foam cutting large scale


> You've got me thinking  here! Is that wire the same that Remington 
> developed
> for  hacksaws some decades back? What is the diameter and where did you
>  locate it? I have several aluminum hot wire frames, 2'Long to 8'Long and 

> the
> thought of a battery operated bandsaw type frame 6-8 feet  long might be 
> fun
> to play with. This will of course add a  year or two to the present plane
> projects!!!
> Pat Russo
>  - Original Message - >
>> Now, why I am here today. I have  built many model aircraft wings out of
>> foam.
>> Much  beyond 4 feet hot wiring will start to sag and become  useless.
>>
>> I just came across a wire that is rough with  a diamond coating. A light
>> came
>>  on.
>>


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KR> KR1

2010-11-08 Thread tinya...@aol.com
FAR better looking, cheaper, same performance, and built without pre  
molded composite parts like the sd planes are:

_http://www.airliners.net/photo/0660613/_ 
(http://www.airliners.net/photo/0660613/) 

Either way, the KR1 is still better for us big Americans.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 11/8/2010 4:17:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
f...@renotruss.com writes:

Those  building a KR1 check this Czech site  out:



http://sdplanes.com/sd1buildersa.htm



I like  the B&S burning .9 gallons an hour at 85MPH!



It appears to  built like a KR but with a T-tail.









Fred  Johnson

Reno,  NV







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KR> KR-1 Plans - Plus Stuff (LONG)

2010-10-20 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Over the years I have seen this kind of letter from many experimental  
aircraft companies before.  Few are still with us.  Good luck with  your 
advancement of the KR.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 10/19/2010 10:12:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
n92...@cox.net writes:

Netter's,

As most of you know, we took over operations from  RR this past year.  So 
one
can imagine there has been some growing  pains while attempting to get 
things
moving again.  Between a blown  out knee, moving in and out of hangars for
due to potential flooding, and  now with moving into a larger facility in
attempt to streamline and be more  productive, this has been a HUGE
undertaking.   We are working  diligently to get the remaining orders out
that we have and anticipate  having everything caught up by the end of the
year or shortly after  depending on temperatures for the glass work. (Thank
you for your patience  to those we have outstanding orders with)

Currently there is myself,  and my partner Eric primarily doing EVERYTHING
for production!  We do  not have enough revenue to hire employees as there
still is not enough  volume as we attempt to reenergize the KR design in the
homebuilt  community.  This IS NOT our primary method for making a living.
Eric  is still on active duty with the US Navy and lives a couple hours 
away.
He  is instrumental in taking care of all website and administrative duties
for  nV Aero. He travels to the hangar to help with production, etc. when  
his
time permits based upon his current Op Temp.  Otherwise,  production is
basically me.  I do the ordering, stocking, fabricating  and any other 
gopher
jobs required.  We have some items contracted out  such as welding, 
precision
machining, etc.  

Eric and I have a  desire to provide quality, affordable parts and materials
for people to  build their KR aircraft.  We certainly didn't get into this 
to
get  rich.  The first thing to understand is nV Aero does not own the  
rights
to the plans for any of the KR aircraft. Jeanette has a price that  she 
sells
the plans to us. Based upon that price we charge enough to cover  our
shipping and administrative costs (picking up plans from RR which is  40
miles away, and other expenses associated with packaging and  shipping.)  
Due
to printing costs Jeanette has raised the price of the  KR-1 plans to us.
The drawings and additional copies she provides are at  current market rates
from the printers.  The book is the same as  everyone else has received for
the past several years but those are rapidly  running out so I anticipate
another increase once the current inventory is  depleted.  

This brings me to Mr. Caudle's post.  I do feel  he should have contacted me
first before posting to the net with his  "displeasure".  I think I 
addressed
it fairly well above but let me be  clear, WE buy the plans for $95.  We 
sell
at $114.95.  We found  that is easier for flat rate shipping for our 
shopping
cart system due to  the various destinations in the US and abroad.  So, $25
for "shipping"  less up to 6% for credit card processing if a Corporate card
is used. This  leaves us $108.05. Subtract $5.70 for Priority Mail with
delivery  confirmation leaves $102.35 less $95 for RR leaves us $7.35 for 
our
time to  pick up plans from RR, print packing lists (The packing list was
with Mr.  Caudle's registration page), registration pages, package and get
them to  the post office or however we ship.  Clearly we are making a TON  
of
money for the hassle.

I am a little displeased myself with Mr.  Caudle's post given our original
correspondence.  Nothing was  misleading when he inquired about the plans 
and
their quality. I guess I  should have been VERY specific as to the 
additional
pages showing the new  dimensions from the KR-2 changes with drawings 
instead
of photos. You can  see my email to him below.  

BEGIN MSG.
"Dear Mr.  Caudle,

Thank you for your inquiry into the KR-1.  I have not seen  the Corby 
Starlet
plans so could not comment on how they compare however,  there have been
several hundred KR-1's build over the years.  The KR-1  plans were drawn in
the 70's and have a builders manual with approximately  64 pages. The full
size drawings are for the airfoil only.   Dimensionally the additional 
photos
and measurements in the manual are  pretty clear.  One positive thing
regarding the KR series is the  builder support is outstanding.  The KR-net
has about 600 members and  answers to most of your are readily available.  
Of
course you can  contact us as well.   I will work on converting a copy of a
page  from the plans to send to you."
END.

Keep in mind these plans were  written a very long time ago.   To answer the
various questions  posted regarding the KR-1 plans.  The pages that have 
been
removed  from the back of the manual were outdated and did not reflect
current  building recommendations.  There also was engine info from  
Revmaster
as well as parts and kit availability that is 

KR> KR-1 Plans

2010-10-18 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I have KR plans purchased directly from Jeanette.  I gave her $60 I  think 
it was, and she gave me the plans in person.  As odd as this may  sound, I 
didn't buy my KR drawings because I was wanting a KR.  I buy plans  mostly as 
a collector, used more for education.  I am a member of the KR  group 
because I enjoy the groups activity, the "get-r-done" attitude, and the  ideas 
that come from the members as they build their aircraft.  The KR  has evolved 
into something other than what the plans offer.  I don't think  you want to 
build either a KR1 or 2 without a HUGE dose of internet research,  going to 
the yearly fly-in, or visiting one on one with those who have been  there.  
If you don't do at least 2 of the three you will be sorry down the  line.  

What do I think of the plans?  I think I could build a rocket ship of  an 
airplane from them using the new airfoil.  To power the  airplane I would use 
the 120 HP Yamaha Vector snowmobile engine like is being  used in the 
gyrocopters.  I bet it would cruise well past  redline. 

What am I building?  Streak Shadow from an old kit.  I want to  fly from my 
property (short) and be able to cruise at least 100 mph.  I  have my eyes 
on the Yamaha for this airplane too.  Same weight/size as the  Geo metro, but 
twice the power.

If a KR is what you want, then a KR you shall have.  There is  massive 
amount of information out there.  I have never met a person  who isn't willing 
to share their construction work. 

Go to it.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO.







In a message dated 10/18/2010 12:45:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jdl...@yahoo.com writes:

Men of  KR Flight:

I just received my KR-1 plans and am not overly  pleased.

1)   Shipping and Handling cost $25.00 for a package  the USPS shipped for 
$6.00
2)   No packing  list.
3)   Several prints labeled KR-2...
4)   6 pages  missing from the instruction manual.  

At this point I don't know  if I have everything I need to build the 
aircraft or not.
I have a sinking  feeling I wasted $139.00.  I thought my Corby plans left 
something
to  be desired.  After paging through the KR-1 plans I will never say a bad 
 word
about the Corby prints again!

I ran across a post in the  archive that advised purchasing the KR-2 plans 
to supplement
the KR-1  plans.  It sure seems a shame to have to spend an additional 
$204.95 plus  $25.00 for shipping to get what you need to build the craft...  
Is 
any  one else having this issue?

Respectfully,

HillBilly  John
Fenwick, West Virginia   

J.E. Caudle

Fenwick,  WV

363TB (On the Bench)



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KR> KR KR2 parts for sale

2010-05-25 Thread tinya...@aol.com
What are you asking for the two engines?  Does the norton  run a gearbox? 
How old is the Jabiru?  Was their some issues with the early  model Jabiru 
engines?

Thanks
Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO



In a message dated 5/24/2010 9:37:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
la...@lebanair.com writes:

I still  have about as complete a kit as possible for one KR2S and another
thru boat  stage+ and other parts. I also have a Norton dual rotor rotary
"new" (a  real aircraft engine not conversion) and now a new 2200 Jabiru
still in the  crate. la...@lebanair.com 

-Original Message-
From:  krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of  David Hartz
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:01 AM
To: KRnet
Subject:  Re: KR> KR KR2 parts for sale

WHAT PARTS ARE AVAILABLE STILL.I AM IN  NOVATO CALIF.
DAVE 415-505-7995

--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Daniel Root   wrote:

> From: Daniel Root  
> Subject: KR> KR KR2 parts for sale
>  To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 8:11 PM
> LRJ  wrote:  Just read an email
> of your list of 
> parts, and I  am interested.  Can you tell me what
> state you live in (I am  
> in Florida) and what your best price is for everything on
>  your list except the 
> engine.
> 
> These parts are in  Stockton, California (KSCK)  I've
> posted pictures them at
>  
>
http://www5.snapfish.com/snapfish/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=1517074027/a=237794
7027_2377947027/otsc=SHR/otsi=SALBlink/COBRAND_NAME=snapfish/
>  
> If these parts must be shipped, the value to a prospective
>  buyer back east, is less than for someone
> local.   As  such, I'm not really too keen on
> setting prices. If  you see  something you like, make an
> offer.  I'm pretty flexible.   BTW, my camera went
> dead while I was shutterbugging.  I have  seven more
> pics in my phone which I'll post to the link when I  figure
> out how to download them...
> 
> 
> 
>  
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KR> DA sander

2009-12-07 Thread tinya...@aol.com
A better, but slightly more expensive DA is this:

_http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98895_ 
(http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=98895) 

They used to make one a bit more expensive than this one and  that is the 
model I have.  Seems like it was $60 for the one I have.   Mechanically I 
think they are identical so that isn't really an issue.  I  think palm sanders 
are easier to hold on to for an extended period of time, they  are easier to 
control, and I think they get into smaller places.  One thing  to remember 
on DA sanders.  Don't bear down on them as it defeats the  orbital part of 
the sander.  You should be able to tell when it quits doing  the orbital 
"jitter" and back off on the pressure.  It doesn't take muscle  to run one.  
They are also not for getting long flat areas straight.   The footprint of the 
sander is too small for that.  They do make a 10"  version of these, but 
they are pricey.  A couple hundred bucks isn't  uncommon.  I don't think one is 
needed for a KR unless you are a tool guy  and just have to have it.  Also, 
a DA sander is an air hog.  I have a  5 HP dual stage quincy (about $1500) 
and not a problem, but I also have a 5 HP  single stage, two cylinder 
compressor (about $350) and it won't keep up.   You can go a while on the 
smaller 
compressor, but not continuous.  They use  air almost as fast as a small 
sand blaster! 

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 12/7/2009 8:24:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
kr2coo...@comcast.net writes:

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=da+sander  


KR> Paint :Imron

2009-12-06 Thread tinya...@aol.com
DA is short for "dual action" sander.  It is body shop  lingo to describe 
the air powered sander that has been around a long time.   I have never heard 
of using one with wet or dry paper, but I guess you  could.  I would think 
it would sling filthy water in your face, all over  the shop, and inside 
your project.  Watching out for the sharp edges  is very good advice.  Sanders 
eat through these areas very quickly.   Sort of like when you cover a fabric 
wing and you avoid sanding on the ribs much  to keep from eating through 
the fabric.  Power sanding tools can  do a lot of damage in a hurry if not 
watching what your doing.  Be  careful.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 12/6/2009 8:42:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

A DA  sander is an air sander.  It is usually with a six inch pad for six 
inch  wet or dry sandpaper.  When you sand the clear coat you want to use it  
wet.  This keeps the paper from clogging.  I use the DA sander on  flat 
surfaces only when sanding clearcoats.  It is easy to sand through  the clear 
coat on sharp edges so I do the sharp edges and turns by hand  with a foam 
sanding block.  A DA sander is a round sander which is  adjustable to 
different speeds.  It makes sanding and finishing a much  easier job.

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, j...@aol.com   wrote:


From: j...@aol.com 
Subject: Re:  KR> Paint :Imron
To: kr...@mylist.net
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009,  4:43 PM




In a message dated 12/4/2009 5:23:45 P.M. Central  Standard Time,  
le62...@yahoo.com writes:

We do  some  antiques and street cars and we will put as high as four
or five  coats  of clear and DA sand them with 1500 grit, 2000 grit and 
then  
3000 grit and  buff several times to get the desired finish.   Ultra fine 
sanding takes  out all the orange peel and any contamiants  that settle in 
the 
clear top  coat.



What does "DA  sand" mean, and do people use powered orbital  sanders for 
finishing  without worrying about glass separation from the foam or  wood?  

Jay W. Hughes
N128JH
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KR> Jabaru 3300 in KR2S/Continental 0-200D

2009-11-20 Thread tinya...@aol.com

I would think the new Continental 0-200D would be a good engine for the KR.  I 
haven't seen a price, but I am sure it is crazy expensive.  The 3300 isn't 
cheap either.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Scott 
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2009 10:03 am
Subject: Re: KR> Jabaru 3300 in KR2S


Ken Thomas of Jasper, AL has a Jabaru 3300 in his oversized KR-2S.  Ken is a 
BIG 
uy, even by my standards, so built his KR wider and taller than most.  His take 
ff performance the one time I saw his plane was impressive.  You can catch a 
ouple of pictures of his plane in the 2004 Gathering photos on the KRNet.org 
eb page.  I've never seen any published numbers on his plane and don't think he 
s a member of this forum. You've got his name and home town, so it should be 
asy fare to give him a call or US mail if you really want the info from someone 
lying the -2S behind one.  
BTW, do you have a name and city to put at the bottom of your email so the rest 
f us know who we are replying to?
Jeff Scott
os Alamos, NM

rom: lureloc...@aol.com
Does any one know what the performance figuires are for the KR2S with a  
abiru 3300 engine? Rate of climb, Cruise, etc

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KR> BMW engines

2009-10-28 Thread tinya...@aol.com
All time aviation great (at least to me) Leo Loudenslager who  was the 
national aerobatic champion 7 times died as a result of a  motorcycle.  I love 
bikes, but you had better give them a lot of  respect.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 10/28/2009 6:13:27 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bearlk...@aol.com writes:


My  first CFI was a gifted pilot and a crotch rocket fiend. He was 23 years 
old  when he missed a curve and hit a telephone pole. His ashes were 
scattered from  an airplane. In a plane death is always present, but often a 
mile 
or more  away. On a motorcycle, death is always about 3 feet away. In a 
plane, you are  your own worst enemy. On a motorcycle, any mistake by a 
stranger 
can kill you.  ( I was once boxed in by four cars at 80mph on a freeway- 
scary) My bike, a  vintage  BMW sits pickled and unused, while I romance my 
plane on a  regular basis. No real comparison.
Bob Polgreen
Nowthen  MN





-Original Message-
From: Larry Knox  
To: 'KRnet' 
Sent:  Wed, Oct 28, 2009 5:41 pm
Subject: RE: KR> BMW  engines










Halleluiah and A--AMEN  Motorcycles are like mules they can hurt you when 
you
are doing everything  right and enjoy it. An airplane won't hurt you unless
you make it. It's OK  to like motorcycles but you have to love airplanes. 
I'm
gaining on the KR2.  Larry

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net  [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Jeff Scott
Sent:  Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:57 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re:  KR> BMW engines

If your bike is more fun than your plane, you  obviously aren't flying a KR!

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos,  NM

-- Original Message --

Motorcycles are more  fun than airplanes but if you busted your ass on a
motorcycle you want to  stay away from airplanes, an airplane accident would
maybe kill  you.
Jim





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KR> Tires

2009-10-26 Thread tinya...@aol.com
NO.

Kevin in MO


In a message dated 10/26/2009 7:29:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
randywpow...@verizon.net writes:

Are  these tires approved to be used on certified Spam cans ???


-  Original Message - 
From: 
To:  
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:19 AM
Subject:  KR> Tires


That link to Desser worked last night when I tested  it.  It appears they
are in the middle of re-doing or updating their  website.  Anyway, the
link was to this tire:

410/350-5 4 PLY  CHENG SHIN TIRE  Unit Price 17.95

There is no  part number that I can find, but if you search for Cheng Shin
under the  category "All Products", it will come up.

Like I said, they are scary  cheap, but they've been just fine for wear
and stress.  I'm going to  order some more soon.


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KR> British homebuilt "The Chilton"?

2009-10-23 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I have drawings for the Chilton, but have never seen one  "live".  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 10/23/2009 4:01:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
fles...@verizon.net writes:

At 03:33  PM 10/23/2009, you wrote:
>Has anyone ever seen the British homebuilt  "The Chilton"?
>
>Fred Johnson
>Reno,  NV


Check  out   http://www.chilton-aircraft.co.uk/nuacinfo.html

Larry  Flesner


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KR> KR-2 for sale Reno Craig's list

2009-10-10 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Balsa wood?!  Is he being silly or don't know much about  airplanes.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 10/10/2009 6:19:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bobbycrea...@yahoo.com writes:

http://reno.craigslist.org/for/1377952477.html


KR> Peel ply

2009-08-10 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Be sure to take it off before putting on your next  layer.  It is used to 
absorb extra resin and make a surface ready to ad  layers to.  Be absolutely 
sure it is removed or you will have an unsafe  part.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:11:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
bdazzca...@aol.com writes:

I was  wondering. Do you take off the peel ply after it dries or do you   
leave it  on?


David
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KR> KR-1 Plans Available ? Copyright ?

2009-05-26 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Very impressive posting!

Lost designs that bothered me was the Charles Fauvel  designs.  The AV361 
is the only design that survived the loss of  Charles.  Story goes that the 
widow of Charles Fauvel actually burned all  of his drawings when he died.  

Free aircraft drawings can be downloaded here:

_http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/cfair/?yguid=62311250_ 
(http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/cfair/?yguid=62311250) 

There are some surprises in this list of free drawings.  

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2sc...@bellsouth.net writes:

While  illegality may be defined by the strict letter, damages are not.
Damages by  copyright infringement are determined mostly by loss
or decrease in  revenues.  When a copyright holder no longer is
selling or servicing,  you might be infringing on copyright but
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KR> KR-1 Plans Available

2009-05-22 Thread tinya...@aol.com
GOOD DEAL!  

KR information should be public domain anyway.  The  original KR is 
outdated to the point they are more of a GUIDE than  PLANS.   I believe this 
"loyalty" is misguided and silly.  There  is a Yahoo group that has a bunch of 
free downloadable plans from years past and  this might be a good place for the 
KR plans.  This site can be found  here:

_http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/cfair/?yguid=62311250_ 
(http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/cfair/?yguid=62311250) 

Bottom line:  I don't think if the plans are given away  free that more KRs 
will be built.  The plans cost is so tiny compared to  the overall cost of 
the project

Also, I already have KR1 plans bought from Jeanette nearly 10  years ago.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO




In a message dated 5/22/2009 1:29:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
wallyban...@gmail.com writes:

Hey  Guys,
I have put a digital set of KR-1 plans up on the internet.  They  are
available via bit torrent and the torrents can be downloaded  from
www.isohunt.com, www.thepiratebay.org and www.demonoid.com.   Demonoid
requires an account which you have to get through invitation but  isohunt 
and
thepiratebay are free.

I'm also thinking that I'll post  it on a file sharing website like 
mediafire
so those without bittorrent can  get it.  The download is 208mb and includes
all of the manuals and  prints required for the KR-1.  There are actually 2
different sets of  plans that I scanned.  The scan quality on some of the
plans is  lacking so there is a B&W and Colour set.  I'm planning  on
digitally retouching all of the older prints both for clarity and also  so
they can be compressed more, for ease of downloading.

I'm putting  the plans on the net because I'm irritated at how long it took
the get the  plans from Rand Robinson, there was no chance of telephone
correspondance  and I was irritated by the serious lack of quality in the
plans.   There appreared to be missing pages in the construction manual and
the  drawings were very helter skelter.  The construction manual  even
references drawings that apparently don't exist.

If anyone has  a set of KR-2 or KR-2S plans they would be willing to loan me
I would love  to get a set of those up on the internet.  Please bear in mind
that  I'm trying to do this as a favour to the community.  It costs me  
about
$50 to get the large plans scanned and then there is considerible  work on 
my
part to scan and assemble all of the other material.

Hope  you enjoy em!

Cheers,
Mike

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KR> 12vdc Actuator Force

2009-03-29 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Did your actuator quit?  How many hours on it?  If it did  quit, then the 
actuator isn't sized right for the application or maybe some  other problem 
occured?

I would just go to an industrial supplier and get what you  need.  Take what 
you have with you and they should be able to at least  match what you have, 
but you probably need something better.  

In the industrial environment, low time operation with failures  will cause 
us to redesign or upgrade to something better.even if OEM on the  equipment 
being used.  We simply cannot afford the downtime that  
substandard/undersized components cause.

Try Grainger, SMC electric supply, MSC industrial supply, or  McMaster Carr.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO


In a message dated 3/29/2009 8:02:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
flyk...@charter.net writes:

I need  to replace the 12vdc actuator on my belly board. I could buy another 
from  Van's Aircraft but I prefer not to spend the $320 they want for it. I 
found  another source where I can buy them at 1/3rd the cost of Van's. What I 
need to  know is the pounds force it takes to deploy my belly board. Here are 
the  parameters:
Board measures 9" x 30"x 1/8" 6061T6
Deployment speed max  110 MPH.

I know there has to be a formula out there to figure this and  I hope someone 
smarter than me can tell me the pounds of force I need to  accomplish a 
smooth and full deployment to 80 degrees from fuselage bottom. Oh  yea, The 
stroke 
is 7 inches.



Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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KR> KR Frustrated Frence Builders

2009-03-08 Thread tinya...@aol.com
These postings come repeatedly, but yet there are those who  continue to 
idolize the Rand operation.  Weird.  Yes, I have bought  plans from Jeanette 
Rand 
so I know what it is about.
Maybe someday, someone, somewhere will either buy out the Rand  operation and 
do something with it or completely redraw the plans (badly needed)  so that 
one can build an airplane without the drawings currently  available.  Call the 
airplane something else like maybe a ML2.  Who  would want to build a KR2 when 
they could build a ML2.if you know what I  mean.  

Let the sharp knifes fly!

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
(ARUP 1,2,3)



In a message dated 3/8/2009 10:37:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
flyk...@charter.net writes:

FlashmailHas anyone talked to Jeannette lately. This gentleman has  tried 
every method possible to contact her for months and Jeannette simply is  not 
responding to his request. I too tried to contact her and had no luck.  Please 
read his e-mail below and if anyone knows a sure fire way to get in  touch whit 
Jeannette please let us all know. Thanks


Mark Jones  (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
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Web:  www.flykr2s.com

- Original Message - 
From:  bjpglo...@club-internet.fr 
To: flyk...@charter.net 
Sent: Saturday,  March 07, 2009 6:59 AM
Subject: hello Mark Jones


Hello Mark  Jones, I hope you well , I sent a fax to Rand Robinson the 
13February, I would  like to buy dual control stick assembly, and aileron 
pushrod 
and rod ends, I  asked   to confirm me that several choices are available, and 
price  and packaging fees are correct, but I have no answer, I dont understand 
why  Jeannette never answer, may be she will not work with Frenchmen?several  
builders are the same problem, is Rand Robinson always activity?I hope you can 
 help me and my friends Kr2 is a fantastic little aircraft and we woud 
continue  to built and fly whith that bird Thank you see you latter. 
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KR> STOL aircraft.

2008-11-18 Thread tinya...@aol.com
The high wing is up out of the brush

Natural stability of the design.  

Kevin in MO, USA


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kr.2s.dar...@gmail.com writes:

At the  risk of asking a stupid or obvious question, why do STOL aircraft all
have  high wings?

Cheers.
-- 
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KR> This is hard to believe

2008-10-31 Thread tinya...@aol.com
What is the "N" number of the plane??? .Uh huh.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO





-Original Message-
From: rahu...@peoplepc.com
To: KRnet 
Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: KR> This is hard to believe



George Bearden wrote :

>Oh, no! Its real. I was there and saw it happen, just like that. I didn't
wanna say anything to youse guys cuz you wouldn't believe me.<

We would like to but, Where and When did this happen?

The root of the wing at the fuselage sure looks like model construction than 
a full size man carrying aircraft to me.

Rick Human
N202RH
Houston, Texas 


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KR> push pull cables

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
These cables are available from Wicks and Aircraft Spruce.  I am going to use 
them on an original design just because it would make cable routing easier and 
the wings fold something like the Kitfox.  This made setup and adjustment very 
easy.  I don't think I would use it on a KR.  The KR system looks to be simple 
and if done correctly it would be very smooth and not bind at all.  I have only 
flown one flying machine with push pull cables (Pioneer Flightstar) and it was 
stiff in the controls.

Kevin



-Original Message-
From: brokerpi...@bellsouth.net
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 8:23 AM
Subject: KR> push pull cables


Pete
They must be using something similar to the transmission shifter cables that
push pull. Knowing that a 3 foot cable is like $24.95 or more, I would think
this kind of setup would be pricey, and you would come out far cheaper just
using the 2 cable runs that you can make at home with wire and crimper. The
must use it due to space issues, etc...
If it were alot more economical, I know Cessna and Piper would use it and
they are not except maybe on the throttle, mixture, or prop controls. I
would think that even a pushtube system would be should be cheaper...

Colin Rainey
brokerpi...@bellsouth.net

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KR> Rand Robinson??? Just my view.

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
This is my view.  I am not building a KR, but do have the plans.  

First, I would not bring Mercedes into this.  There was an article  this week 
that Mercedes has the worst reliability of any car available in  America.  It 
used to be Jaguar, but I guess they are spreading the  "love".

Now the KR's

Next, I think the problem with the KR is the design needs updated.   The 
construction drawings you buy today isn't what I would build.  I guess  you can 
build a plans stock airplane, but there has been so much done to improve  the 
design that I wouldn't.  

Last, I offer a resolution.  In an ideal world the plans should be  sold or 
turned over to those who keep the design alive.  Those who show up  at the 
national meet with a flying airplane are the people I speak of.  If  it wasn't 
for 
these people the design would have ended up like so many  other designs, just 
a memory.  The plans could be purchased from a group of  KR enthusiasts with 
updates being done on a regular basis.  If Jeanette  wants to stay in it for 
the $$, give her some of the proceeds from the  sales.  I think everyone 
involved would benefit.  Those who are  wanting plans could get them right 
away, 
Jeanette would get her money, and the  design would improve through updates 
from 
knowledgeable people.  

Thank you to those have put so much of themselves into the KR  design.

Kevin in Missouri
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KR> Rand Robinson??? Just my view.

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
As I mentioned some planes just became a memory.  To use an example of this.  I 
use the Charles Fauvel designs.  Charles may not even be known by anyone in 
this group, but I believe he should be known by everyone.  He was a French man 
that designed many different flying wings.  Some sailplanes, some powered 
planes.  The most popular is a sailplane that a few were built by homebuilders. 
 I have searched high and low for ANY construction drawings for a Fauvel 
design...ANY of his designs.  Surely one mans lifetime of work has to leave a 
paper trail somewhere.  I found the paper trail ended when he died and his 
SENTIMENTAL spouse burned EVERYTHING having to do with his lifetime of work.  

won't happen with the KR design as there are a huge # of drawings out 
there, but just goes to show you how much true $$ value sentimental has.

Kevin in MO




-Original Message-
From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson??? Just my view.


 OK Guys,
Your flattering yourselves to think no one has thought of that or
tried it before and it apparently is not in the cards for now and may
never be. You certainly are not taking into consideration any sentimental
value that this airplane design has to Mrs. Robinson.
A little less typing and a little more discretion may be in order
here.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

> Last, I offer a resolution.  In an ideal world the plans should be  
> sold or 
> turned over to those who keep the design alive.  Those who show up  
> at the 
> national meet with a flying airplane are the people I speak of.  If  
> it wasn't for 
> these people the design would have ended up like so many  other 
> designs, just 
> a memory.  The plans could be purchased from a group of  KR 
> enthusiasts with 
> updates being done on a regular basis.  If Jeanette  wants to stay 
> in it for 
> the $$, give her some of the proceeds from the  sales.  I think 
> everyone 
> involved would benefit.  Those who are  wanting plans could get them 
> right away, 
> Jeanette would get her money, and the  design would improve through 
> updates from 
> knowledgeable people.  
>  
> Thank you to those have put so much of themselves into the KR  
> design.
>  
> Kevin in Missouri

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KR> now Tomahawk- of subject

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I did most of my instruction in a Tomahawk, then bought a Grumman Tr2.  The Tr2 
was much more sensitive in pitch, but I quickly learned to love it.  Only 
complaint I had with the Tomahawk was the nose gear wanted to shimmy at times.  
Those that have flown it, have you ever done a HARD full stall and look back at 
the tail?  Yowwza!

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO 

-Original Message-
From: jscott.pi...@juno.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: KR> now Tomahawk- of subject


I own a Tomahawk and fly it at least as much as the KR.  I haven't
figured out how to make a bad landing in it.  The oversized tail is so
effective through the landing and the gear is so soft, you have to be
really ham fisted to screw it up.

The Tomahawk is a bit more pitch sensitive than most trainers, so the
beginning student struggles a bit more learning the plane.  It was
built that way to make the tail large enough to be fully effective on
take off without it being in the prop wash.  The "T" tail design was as
dumb idea that was done for marketing purposes as it was built during
the hay day of the 727 and DC-9, both "T" tail jets.  The "spring" trim
was also a bad idea.  While it is functional, it is nowhere near as
effective as a trim tab.  

I often times introduce new pilots to the Tomahawk.  They are literally
terrified by the stories from others that once flew them as primary
students.  I take them through a stall series and maybe a spin entry
and recovery.  They come back wondering why all the horror stories.

The Tomahawk spins just fine.  However, recovery from a fully developed
spin requires doing the right thing, then being patient.  It won't fly
itself out like the Cessnas.  If you want to do spin training in one, I
recommend doing it with a CFI experienced in spin training.

Piper designed it to be a hands on flyer after interviewing CFIs and
finding that they wanted an airplane that students have to fly and
handle right to make it perform.  They designed what the CFIs asked
for, then got beat up because the CFIs and students didn't like it.

Now that you have some KR time behind you, go get in a Tomahawk again.
 You'll wonder how you could have ever struggled with such a pussycat.

It amazes me that a bunch of pilots that are building and flying one of
the least stable and most pitch sensitive airplanes in the homebuilt
market will line up to bad mouth a trainer for having the same trait,
only to a much lesser extent.  It wasn't the airplane that was causing
you to struggle as a student.  It was the student skills.  The airplane
was making you into a better pilot by making you struggle, but also
being forgiving in the process.

The amplified student horror stories have made the Tomahawk one of the
best buys in the GA market by keeping the prices depressed.  After
several hundred hours in my Tomahawk, the only real gripe I have is the
lack of yaw stability in turbulance.  It excels at the Bonanza waltz in
rough air.  

Interestingly enough, the "T" tailed Skipper that everyone thinks is a
Beech Tomahawk doesn't have the same issues.

Oh yes, and I do have a Tomahawk and Skipper both available for sale. 
The Tomahawk is mine, and the Skipper belongs to a friend.  I have done
most of the work on both of them over the last several years, including
top overhauls.

Now, let's move the discussion back to KRs.  Or we could search for
someone elses baby to call ugly. :o)

Jeff Scott
N1213W
N2398N


-- "Joseph H. Horton"  wrote:
 I have about 20 hours in a Tomahawk and I only stuck with it just
because I will not be defeated. I hated climbs in it because it would
hunt for direction and landings were not the most fun either but I did
get it down pat and then stopped flying it.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:30:30 -0600 "Mark Wegmet" 
writes:
> Rumor has it that it was called a "Trauma-hawk" because it was "spin
> friendly". :-)
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On 
> Behalf
> Of Dave Arbogast, CISSP
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:46 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Thrust Line issues
> 
> Funny, my instructor called them the "Trauma - hawk" because of the 
> T 
> tail being less responsive to prop wash when you need it the most - 
> 
> stall recovery.
> 
> Raising the trust-line I would think increases the loads on the 
> upper 
> half of the firewall. Maybe not enough to worry about, but I sure 
> like 
> the idea of more ground clearance for the prop.
> 
> -dave
> 

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KR> carbon fibre tail spring

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I hope someone hasn't suggested this as I haven't been reading all  posts.

If you want the tail spring to be composite, why not make it out of round  
fiberglass rod?  Those are easily found in aircraft supply catalogs or  through 
industrial suppliers.  It could be set up somewhat like a Quickie  but would 
have to build a mount on the fuselage to hold the rod.  Might not  save any 
weight in the end.

Just an idea.
Kevin.


KR> carbon fibre tail spring

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Chevrolet Astro vans (some not all) had rear leaf springs that were fiberglass. 
 I bought a set out of the salvage yard and plan to use them on a project for 
the main gear.  They will require some cutdown to work but it is easier to cut 
off then add on.   
Kevin.


-Original Message-
From: rsb...@hotmail.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: KR> carbon fibre tail spring


A while back we were talking about this on the VP list I think and someone was 
talking about a 
some small cheap car equipped with composite rear leaf springs. From the way he 
talked they would be cheap and easy to come by and had more than strong enough. 
I think he cut them at the arch and bolted them on. I think I can dig it out if 
anyone's is interested. 

Might be worth looking into. 

Steve Bray 
Jackson, Tennessee 



>I don't know much about carbon fiber, but I have 
>routinely installed composite (fiberglass) rear mono 
>springs on early model Corvette's without problems. 
> 
> Chris, 
> > 
> > I never heard of anyone doing that. My thought is 
> > that it would be brittle. 
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KR> Lancair 320 fire

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
That is very sad. 

Years ago when the Lancair first came out they advertised that the Lancair 
airframe would not sustain flame and was a better choice from a Glasair.  

Looks like it burned pretty well to me.

Kevin.



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Sent: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: KR> Lancair 320 fire


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KR> KR2s for sale

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Alan,
  Did you ever sell your KR2?

Kevin in Missouri




-Original Message-
From: williamm...@adelphia.net
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: KR> KR2s for sale


All:

I have a KR2S project for sale.  My son and I are both starting to take 
flight lessons and we have decided to sell our project and buy a trainer 
instead of renting.  My project can be seen at

http://users.adelphia.net/~williammoat

I can be contacted evening at 678 450 0788 or by email 
williamm...@adelphia.net.

I also have a factory Canopy frame for sale separately.

I prefer not to part the project out. All reasonable offers will be 
considered.

Thank  you,

Alan Moat


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KR> Hydraulic brakes

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Another one needing removed from list Mark?

Kevin
ARUP


KR> RE: Nikasil...

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I think the advantage of Nikasil cylinders is they are cheap.  Not for 
Corvairs/VWs it seems, but in model airplane engines it is the cheapest engine 
you can buy.  They are often considered throw away engines.  Nikasil cylinders 
can't be bored so they are a lot like Chromed aluminum cylinders.   

Kevin.


-Original Message-
From: mlwin...@hotmail.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: KR> RE: Nikasil...


Don't know about the finer points questioned here (like better overall designs, 
etc...) but I believe BMW cycles went to Nikasil in the 80's (or early 90's) 
for 
several reasons.  One was weight, but the primary was heat transfer.  It seems 
a 
lot is lost in the transfer from the linings to the heads, and this process 
eliminated this issue.  I am sure there are many technical papers, patents, 
etc., for those who wish to dive deeper.  Just not sure I need to go that far, 
but clearly it is the right technology, and while it may be new here, it is 
proven stuff!Also, I think rough EXTERIORS on castings increase surface area 
and 
help with heat dissipation, so smooth may not be good there.  On the inside oil 
flow must be optimized, thus highly polished interiors are usually desired.   
Marc Lee Winnig   

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(801) 749-9460  FAX> I have always wondered about the roughness of the 
castings of the VW jugs  and thought the billet stuff would be better but this 
information far  exceeds what I would have expected. It looks like these jugs 
answer all of  the needs, more power, better heat disapation longer TBO and so 
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KR> RE: Nikasil...

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I have read everything I can find on the net with Nikasil.  In the model 
airplane world anything with a coating on the cylinder is considered cheap.  I 
think mostly because on model airplane engines they do the block and cylinder 
in one piece then coat the cylinder to get the hardness needed.  It is a very 
cheap way of building an engine (low parts count), but is very lightweight.  I 
still think of the Nikasil cylinder as a throw away part.  It isn't shop 
rebuildable if damaged and new cylinders will have to be bought.  I guess that 
makes it not so cheap.  One web site did claim the Nikasil cylinder is 2-3 
times stronger than chrome plated cylinders.  Bottom line is any cast iron 
cylinder engine converted to these aluminum cylinders will be lighter weight.  
I may buy a set of Nikasil cylinders myself.

Kevin.





-Original Message-
From: n5...@hiwaay.net
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: KR> RE: Nikasil...


Kevin wrote:

> I think the advantage of Nikasil cylinders is they are cheap.  Not for
Corvairs/VWs it seems, but in model airplane engines it is the cheapest
engine you can buy.  They are often considered throw away engines.  Nikasil
cylinders can't be bored so they are a lot like Chromed aluminum cylinders.

Nikasil isn't a material, it's a coating that's often applied to aluminum
cylinders to improve wear resistance.  Porsche Nikasiled just about every
one of its cylinders at one time, and I don't think they did it because it's
cheap!  They did it so they could use lightweight aluminum cylinders that
still have good longevity in the place of cast iron cylinders.  See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikasil for details.  The article mentions that
it fell from favor due to problems associated with high sulfur fuels, but
100LL probably doesn't have that problem.  It's also somewhat tricky to
apply.

 I'm working on a UAV engine project in which the folks that are building
the engine insist that there's only one place in the world that knows how to
Nikosil plate correctly.  Applied incorrectly it has been known to flake off
and cause real problems...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
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KR> What to do when the throttle cable in your KR2 snaps in midair. (Igni...

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
The spring on my Grumman is a large lightly loaded coil spring that goes  
around the throttle shaft just behind the throttle arm.  If wanted I could  
take 
a photo of it.  I was sure glad the spring was there when the nut fell  off of 
the throttle connector.  Those little two seat Grumman's have a  fairly hot 
glide limiting my landing options.

Kevin


KR> What to do when the throttle cable in your KR2 snaps in midair. (Ignition)

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I had it happen on my Grumman Tr2 within an hour of coming out of an 
inspection/carb rebuild.  Grummans have a push-pull but also have a spring to 
lever the butterfly to the wide open position.  I am glad it had the spring.  
My boss here at work had a C150 land in his back pasture 2 weeks ago because 
the throttle came loose and it WASN'T spring loaded to wide open.  Seems odd to 
me that there would be such a setup on certified aircraft.

That is the one thing I don't like about 2 stroke carburetors such as the 
Mikuni. They are internally loaded to fail shut.  Yes, I have flown them many 
times, but always with the thought of "what if".

___

About a month ago there was talk about a better ignition system.  Should we use 
more than one coil, or should we use a coil pack, or maybe we should use a 
crank trigger a certain way.  The problem I see is that all the systems talked 
about have one problem.  They require a voltage source.  I have an idea that 
does not require a voltage source, but is "out there" so most will think I have 
"lost it".  LAWN MOWER IGNITION.  Simple, cheap, reliable, easy to set up, easy 
to have dual ignition, and NO VOLTAGE NEEDED.  I have prepared myself for the 
dart throwing, so throw away.

Kevin Golden
"little Bird" ARUP replicas
Harrisonville, MO





-Original Message-
From: kwiltrout1...@verizon.net
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: KR> What to do when the throttle cable in your KR2 snaps in midair.


I experienced the same thing several years ago 2 times I had a carb ice
issue that bent the revflow spring. Had to kill the eng on final, better yet
had to taxi at full power.

Ken Wiltrout
Kutztown, Pa

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barry Kruyssen
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:07 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> What to do when the throttle cable in your KR2 snaps in
midair.

Good one Willie, a cool head and no problems, that's good to hear.

My throttle is a simular setup, a spring pulls it to wide open and the cable
is used to close it.

Regards
Barry Kruyssen
Cairns, Australia
k...@bigpond.com
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm



-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Willie van der Walt
Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2006 7:30 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> What to do when the throttle cable in your KR2 snaps in mid
air.

  What to do when the throttle cable in your KR2 snaps in mid air. Last week
Thursday I was flying "Shrek" around Phalaborwa just for fun at 1000 vt AGL.

When I returned to the airfield, I noticed my speed was sitting at 160mph
and closed the throttle to slow down. Nothing happened. The engine was still
running at full power I joined on downwind and started preparing myself for
an emergency landing. I called on the radio for ground assistance in case
things got out of hand.

  The throttle design is such that a spring opens the throttle and the lever
in the cockpit is to pull the throttle closed. In a way it is better than
the push rod idea but anyhow.

  I planed to turn the magnetos off on a glide slope that I knew would take
me to the runway without power. As it is, the KR picks up speed even with
power off if the glide is not flat enough. The fire department was getting
ready as I went around a couple of times at flat speed. During my last go
around I pulled the cable housing out of the lever box (with my one hand)
and managed to remove the metal cap over the cable housing end. This exposed
4mm of the cable tip. I clamped the 1.7mm cable between my thumb and
forefinger and pulled the inner out. The power came down and I could use the
accelerator like that. Now on finals I realized that at some stage I will
need my left hand to apply brakes and cut the engine. So on short finals I
let go of the cable, the revs shot up but before much happened I cut the
engine at the magnetos. A perfect dead stick landing followed and pushed the
plane back to the hanger.

  There are few things to learn from this.

1.. Don't panic and make hasty decisions. Take your time and plan your
crash ( it may not be one)
2.. Practice engine off approaches so you get to know your aircraft and
glide ratios
3.. Carry enough fuel so you can use it if you need to stay in the air
longer than planed.
4.. Wear brown pants.


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KR> (Ignition)

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Jeff,
  But not "old school" magneto.  No points in this system.  The only thing the 
same would be the magnets flying past the coil.  

Mark L.
   Yep, that is the system I was talking about except I was going to use the 2 
cylinder Briggs coil so I can have dual output ignition per cylinder using the 
one coil.  I will have to study what you have.  I saw your plane at Sun n Fun, 
but I am sort of the quiet, keep-to-myself type and didn't introduce myself.  I 
drove from Missouri to see 3 things.  Your airplane, the Wagabond with the 
corvair on it that was built in WW's shop, and how the ultralight area was 
doing.  Your KR and the Wagabond was not a disappointment, but the ultralight 
area was almost a ghost town.  I left early.

Kevin.




-Original Message-
From: jscott.pi...@juno.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: KR> (Ignition)


That's standard equipment on most aircraft engines and adaptable to
most others.  It also garners the ire of those that think it's too
antiquated to fly on their planes. But you did certainly give me a
laugh this morning.  The old lawnmower ignition is called "magneto"
ignition.

Jeff Scott


-- tinya...@aol.com wrote:

About a month ago there was talk about a better ignition system. 
Should we use more than one coil, or should we use a coil pack, or
maybe we should use a crank trigger a certain way.  The problem I see
is that all the systems talked about have one problem.  They require a
voltage source.  I have an idea that does not require a voltage source,
but is "out there" so most will think I have "lost it".  LAWN MOWER
IGNITION.  Simple, cheap, reliable, easy to set up, easy to have dual
ignition, and NO VOLTAGE NEEDED.  I have prepared myself for the dart
throwing, so throw away.

Kevin Golden
"little Bird" ARUP replicas
Harrisonville, MO



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KR> "lawnmower" ignition

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Oh stop.  Looks nothing like a Vertex, Slick, Case, Fairbanks Morse, etc.  
Lighter, smaller, and no points.  You can have TOTAL falure of one coil/output 
and only loose one cylinder.  Have total falure of an aircraft mag and what do 
you have?  


Kevin



-Original Message-
From: brian.kr...@engalt.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Hmmm, we have invented the  magneto.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:10 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Kevin Golden wrote:

>  I have an idea that does not
> require a voltage source, but is "out there" so most will think I have
> "lost it".  LAWN MOWER IGNITION.  Simple, cheap, reliable, easy to set
> up, easy to have dual ignition, and NO VOLTAGE NEEDED.

Isn't your "lawnmower ignition" pretty much what Monnett is using on his
AeroVee?  See the photo at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/osh2000/000727152.jpg that I took at
Oshkosh in 2000.  It does have a lot of appeal, but I'll bet the spark isn't
exactly brilliant.  I think the system I came up with covers the bases
pretty well, and has enough reduncancy built in to handle just about any
failure (famous last words).  See
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/electrical/index.html for more details on
that...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> "lawnmower" ignition

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
;-)

Kevin.




-Original Message-
From: brian.kr...@engalt.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Thinking about it a little more I do see one problem with a lawnmower type
of iginition.  Lawnmowers and weed whackers have the ignition set pretty
much near top dead center.  It makes them a lot easier to start and is also
one of the reasons why you have a fairly good sized engine to make the
little power that they do.  The only way to get the power you should and
also make it start easy is with something like an impulse coupling.  I
imagine that the Aerovee has some kind of way to advance the timing built
in, but once you have gone through all the trouble of making something that
works and is reliable you might as well just have gone with a regular
aircraft magneto.

I guess that something like an electronic ignition with spark advance for
normal use and for starting with a quick and dirty lawnmower type set with
fixed timing for a backup is food for thought.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Langford
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 11:10 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Kevin Golden wrote:

>  I have an idea that does not
> require a voltage source, but is "out there" so most will think I have
> "lost it".  LAWN MOWER IGNITION.  Simple, cheap, reliable, easy to set
> up, easy to have dual ignition, and NO VOLTAGE NEEDED.

Isn't your "lawnmower ignition" pretty much what Monnett is using on his
AeroVee?  See the photo at
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/osh2000/000727152.jpg that I took at
Oshkosh in 2000.  It does have a lot of appeal, but I'll bet the spark isn't
exactly brilliant.  I think the system I came up with covers the bases
pretty well, and has enough reduncancy built in to handle just about any
failure (famous last words).  See
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/electrical/index.html for more details on
that...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> "lawnmower" ignition

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
What was the point of this posting?  I didn't get anything out of it.  If it is 
another dagger thrown at me, then I could care less.  I like having ideas, even 
if half cocked, thrown out on the table for discussion.  I didn't get anything 
like that out of this post.  


Kevin Golden
"Little birds" (ARUP replicas)
Harrisonville, MO






-Original Message-
From: da...@alltel.net
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Gee, that sounds almost like starting my engine on the Magneto cause it has
impulse coupling (spark retard), and running it on that and the electronic,
which is fixed.  Now, if I loose the magneto, I wonder what will happen. 
Maybe next time I am up flying, I will turn off the Magneto and see,  Oh
shucks, I already did that, and it still works.

Which reminds me.  Several years ago, there was a lot of discussion about
whether or not the engine will maintain full power, with the facet fuel
pumps turned off.  Well, with 3/4 of a stock header tank full, it will. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

make it start easy is with something like an impulse coupling.  

but once you have gone through all the trouble of making something that
works and is reliable you might as well just have gone with a regular
aircraft magneto.

I guess that something like an electronic ignition with spark advance for
normal use and for starting with a quick and dirty lawnmower type set with
fixed timing for a backup
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KR> "lawnmower" ignition

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I know for a fact you can "hand prop" a Briggs & Stratton push lawn mower quite 
easily.  Never mind how I know that.  Just believe me it is very easy to do.  

Kevin.




-Original Message-
From: av...@telkomsa.net
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


Brian
The aerovee lawnmower ignition has no method of advance at all. They use it
as the backup ignition to the electronic unit which also has no advance but
will produce a spark at low revs. I have a friend who recently had the
electronic unit fail and in the process of finding the fault cranked the
battery down to a point where it would no longet turn the motor over. Trying
to prop start it on the mag system was futile as he just couldn't spin it
fast enough to make it produce any spark. It aparently needs somewhere
around 300rpm.
We have just gone through this whole ignition thing on corvaircraft but I
will risk it again. Take a look at the system that is installed on Serge's
plane. It is a simple transistor controlled coil ignition triggered by an
inductive pick up. It also sports a ready made centrifugal advance
mechanism. This system has been used here by many builders and has been
proven during more than 1500 hours of flight without a single failure on VW
motors as well as a honda auto conversion. It does need a 12V supply though.
Take a look at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/ignition/dene/
Regards
Dene Collett
KR2SRT builder
South africa
Whisper assembler
See: www.whisperaircraft.com
mailto: av...@telkomsa.net
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Kraut" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 02:32
Subject: RE: KR> "lawnmower" ignition


> Thinking about it a little more I do see one problem with a lawnmower type
> of iginition.  Lawnmowers and weed whackers have the ignition set pretty
> much near top dead center.  It makes them a lot easier to start and is
also
> one of the reasons why you have a fairly good sized engine to make the
> little power that they do.  The only way to get the power you should and
> also make it start easy is with something like an impulse coupling.  I
> imagine that the Aerovee has some kind of way to advance the timing built
> in, but once you have gone through all the trouble of making something
that
> works and is reliable you might as well just have gone with a regular
> aircraft magneto.
>
> I guess that something like an electronic ignition with spark advance for
> normal use and for starting with a quick and dirty lawnmower type set with
> fixed timing for a backup is food for thought.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>




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KR> KR PLans on CD

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
This happens all the time.  There are bootleg plans being sold of about 
anything you could imagine on ebay.  Plans for things other than airplanes too.

I have bought a few plans on CD from ebay auctions with no intent to build the 
plane at all.  I just want to see how another designer has done something.  
Most drawings on CD are old out of date plans and I wouldn't think anyone would 
build these designs today.  I may be wrong, but I think the plans we are 
talking about here are the KR2, not the KR2S.  As I have said before, surely no 
one would start from scratch and build a KR2 as it was designed in the early 
70s.  The KR2S with new airfoils isn't really a KR2.  It is a different, much 
better bird with simularities as I see it.  

I rarely chime in so since I am now I want to THANK those who posted photos of 
the KR meet in IL.  It looked like a very good meet with great weather and even 
better airplanes!   

Kevin in MO
Ebay ID "tinycar"




-Original Message-
From: flyk...@wi.rr.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR PLans on CD


Good job Jeff. I think Jeanette should be notified.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR PLans on CD


> Don't know if anyone else wrote to the seller, but I did question him on
> his ethics.  
> 
> He replied:   
> These CDs were purchased by me at an airshow about a month ago. When
> these are gone, that's it - and they are being sold under the Right of
> Frst Resale and are not copies made by me. 
> 
> I also sent a note to Ebay questioning the legality of this guy selling
> Rand Robinson's intellectual property.
> 
> You will note that the sale was ended.  
> 
> Jeff Scott
> 
> 
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:03:03 -0500 "Mark Jones" 
> writes:
>> This is interestingcould it be a copyright infringement?
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KR-2-EXPERIMENTAL-AIRCRAFT-PLANS-ON-CD_W0Q
> QitemZ120041686142QQihZ002QQcategoryZ26441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi
> ewItem
>> 
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> Wales, WI
>> My Web site: http://www.flykr2s.com/
>> Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
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KR> fly mart question,HARDWARE SUPPLIER

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Or..Airparts in KCK

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO 


-Original Message-
From: lah...@yahoo.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: KR> fly mart question,HARDWARE SUPPLIER


Lee, you are probably talking about:
Dan Brown from Garderner Kansas.
B&B Aircraft Supplies
202 South Center
Gardener Kansas, 66030
913-884-5930


- Original Message 
From: Lee Van Dyke 

Netters,

One of the venders at Oshkosh flymart, had all kinds of rivets, srews, clamps 
fasteners, hoses etc.  They have been there and Sun N Fun for many years.  They 
were not listed in the Vendors list on the EAA site, that I could find.  They 
were in a Big Tent.  Does anybody have their name? web site?
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KR> Taylor Mono plane fuselage free to good home

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Darren,
  Do you have the wings/tail or is this just a fuselage?  You are 1,000 miles 
away, but I sure would like to have this plane.  I have the 1835cc engine that 
originally came from a Taylor mono.  It was off of the one out of the late 60s 
and early 70s that had Snoopy on the tail.  I forget the N number, but a neat 
plane!

Kevin.




-Original Message-
From: pond...@rogers.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 9:06 PM
Subject: KR> Taylor Mono plane fuselage free to good home


HI All
I've made my choice and it's time to refocus on other projects.
I have a Canadian "Amateur Built" (same as experimental) Taylor Mono plane
Fuselage that needs a home. 

A Taylor Mono plane is (with out starting an argument) a KR1 with rag wings.

The fuselage is a hanger queen with the original builder flying 150 hours on
it. The second owner removed the 1200cc VW engine with the intent of
installing a larger one. Three owners latter she is still a hanger queen
looking for a good engine. 
No damage or wood rot. Full logs.
Free to a good home. Just come and get it. Needs to be out of rented hanger
by First of the month.
I paid $3k for it 6 years ago. Chock it up to experience I guess.  

Darren Pond
137 Walker St 
Cambridge Ontario Canada
N3C2C3
Home 519-651-2522
Darren Cell 519-241-4242
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KR> Anti junk/disabled anything laws LONG

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I don't even mind the junk cars as long as they are kept straightened up in a 
line with the grass kept down around them.  I have rebuilt a lot of "JUNK" 
items to like new condition including cars, tractors, etc and if there are laws 
requiring those items to be destroyed, then none of the rebuilds would have 
been possible.  

I would bet that if I were to restore an antique car, use it until I drove it 
150,000 miles, then I still wouldn't have created as much polution as 1 new car 
being manufactured.  

Kevin.


-Original Message-
From: r...@jrl-engineering.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Anti junk/disabled anything laws LONG


I like your point of view.

Ronald R. Eason Sr.
Pres. & CEO, KCMO Office
J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd.
816-468-4091, Kansas City, MO. 
Web Page: www.jrl-engineering.com


-- Original Message --
From: "Steve Glover" 
Reply-To: KRnet 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:  Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:34:15 -0700

Well Colin, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.  Mine is that
laws such as this is where we all have had our rights or civil liberties
encroached upon.  Where are my rights when I cannot utilize my own
property, that I have paid for, for my entertainment or enjoyment as
long as I do not cause damage or harm to anyone.  One could argue they
are "damaged" from having to view my plane.  In that case I could give a
rats and they should close the curtain or get a life.  I whole heartedly
agree that there is a limit to what one could/ should do in public view.
Your statement regarding abandoned or junk cars, etc. within a city
limit or neighborhood certainly would affect property values and
therefore damaging to others.  But something like building a car,
aircraft, boat, or other constructive like hobby does not fall into this
category as long as the property in public view is maintained and not
used as a junk yard.  

This type of abuse of the political system is indicative of how liberal
our society has become in regards to the bleeding hearts or Democrats
who are, in my opinion the root cause of why our society has declined so
markedly in moral and ethical conviction.  They must all be members of
the ACLU or any of these other organizations who think everybody owes
them something and will file a law suit just because they can.  I also
have been on the enforcement side but there is a Reasonable Man's rule
that must apply. The problem is, there are very few reasonable men in
the political arena.

I ordinarily abstain from this type of discussion on the net as it is a
waste of my time. However, this particular type of abuse of the system
irritates the fire out of me.

This is not a flame toward you Colin, just my opinion. Now Back to KR
stuff, we have better things to do.

Regards,

Steve Glover
KR-2 N902G
AJO, Ca










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KR> Re: wing loading test

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Seems like in the 60s there was a lot of homebuilts being flipped over  and 
loaded with sandbags.  I had the thought that it was encouraged by the  FAA, 
even on proven designs.  There have been articles in SA about static  testing.  
Seems like no big deal to me if done right.  I would rather  hear a BANG on 
the ground than in the air.  

Thanks for the recommendation on books to design homebuilt airplanes.   I am 
about to go down that road myself.

Kevin in Missouri


KR> corvair engine

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Mike, are you going to Mexico, MO this weekend to the Corvair  "event"?

Kevin (on the other side of the state).


KR> Mexico, Mo.

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Anyone traveling from the Kansas City area to Zenair on the 20th?

Kevin


KR> Horizontal stab stall

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Early Lancair 2 seaters had a tail stall problem.  If you look at the  
Lancair 235 compared to the Lancair 360, the tail is much wider.  A lot of  the 
Lancair 235s have been modified to have the later model tail to correct the  
stall 
problem.

Kevin in MO


KR> Sun 'n' Fun

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
It was great to see the people and airplanes that I only read about or see on 
the net.  I am the bashful type, so I didn't introduce myself.  I was most 
interested in seeing and hearing the corvairs run.  Bill, I really like the 
sound of your plane when it flys over!  I have had the corvair manual for a 
while, I just need to get to building.  I even know of 2 free covairs that have 
the correct 110 motor.  

One question:  Why wasn't the Skycoupe with the corvair not at Sun n fun?  I 
really wanted to see that plane.

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO





Glad you made it home safe - It was nice to see you there.  See you at  
Oshkosh?   Bill Clapp


KR>Carburetor ????

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Is there a place on the net or a book I could buy that covers a large  number 
of aircraft carburetors showing what the OEM use was?  It would  be nice to 
know things like flow charts and the inner mechanics of the  individual 
carburetors too.

Thanks
Kevin Golden
Missouri


KR> Wings

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com

I think this ad found on  Barnstormers tells it all when someone wants to do 
serious modifications.   Usually, the airplane will never get done.   There 
are exceptions  and we know who they are.  I like Mark Jones idea of just get 
it 
 flying...safely. 
Kevin in  MO 



_200 MPH  KR2_ (http://barnstormers.com/classified_100288_200+mph+KR2.html)  ?
 FOR SALE ? Project but really  completed except for final paint. Runs 
beautifully. Owner had nearly $40,000  into it and the last 15 years of his 
life. 
Saturn engine. Big horsepower.  Builder was an expert. Prop was even $4000. No 
paperwork. Has been taxied tested  to 30 mph and it wanted to fly. Could be a 
fun thing to tinker with or for the  person who can get it legal to fly. This 
is a 200 mph airplane. Can easily fit  in a car garage. Any offer will be 
considered. CALL RATHER THAN EMAIL ON FIRST  CONTACT- PLEASE, NO TIRE KICKERS. 
Wife 
needs to sell. ? Contact _Thomas  Dunlap_ 
(http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=46942&id=100288&title=200+mph+KR2&return=/listing.php?mode=&sub=KR+
Aircraft&main=Experimental)  - _SPORT  AVIATION_ 
(http://barnstormers.com/contact_seller.php?to=46942&id=100288&title=200 mph 
KR2&return=/listing.php?mode=&sub=KR+Aircraft&main=Experimental)  located Red 
Wing, MN USA ? Telephone: 
612-419-4621 ? Posted March  10, 2006 ? _Show  all Ads posted by this 
Advertiser_ 
(http://barnstormers.com/listing.php?mode=usersearch&user=sportaircraft)  ? 
_Recommend  This Ad to a Friend_ 
(http://barnstormers.com/recommend.php?id=100288&title=200+mph+KR2)  ? _Send  a 
Message_ (http://barnstormers.com/contact_
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KR> Hercules Engine?

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
There is a yahoo group dealing with these engines for aircraft use.  They seem 
to be heavy and underpowered for the most part, but it is possible to make them 
fly.

Kevin in MO



-Original Message-
From: Stephen Teate 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:03:32 -0600
Subject: KR> Hercules Engine?


Netters,

This past weekend I went to a farm auction and happened across a little
four cylinder opposed engine. It looked like it came out of some kind of
military generator and I expected to see a Lycoming data plate on it.
But when I looked closer I noticed it only had one mag mounted
"Continental Style" pointing forward and the mfg. plate said Hercules
Engines. Does anyone know the story on these engines?

Thanks in advance,

Stephen Teate

Paradise, TX

ste...@compositecooling.com



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KR> spinner front bulkhead?

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Mark,
  First I will say I haven't done this myself, but have seen it done, and have 
stood in amazement.  

  There is a Yahoo group called "metalshapers".  The members of this active 
group have metal bashing meets in differing parts of the country.  It so 
happened there was one about 10 miles from my home, sobeing facinated with 
anything like this I had to go.  There was a guy there showing how to do metal 
turning.  He had a wooden mold (some may call it a buck) that he formed a bell 
with.  It was amazing to see this bell being formed in less than a minute.  I 
would think that a wooden form shaped like you need for a bulkhead would be 
easy to make on a wood lathe.  Then get your metal and form the edge around the 
wooden mold using the metal turning techique.  I am not sure what make-up the 
metal was (hardness) but I would assume fairly soft stuff was used.  There has 
to be a hole in the center to mount your metal to the form for turning, but 
that shouldn't matter for this.  

Food for thought...

Kevin in Missouri





-Original Message-
From: Mark Langford 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 11:48:54 -0600
Subject: KR> spinner front bulkhead?


Anybody have a good scheme to fabricate a front bulkhead for a spinner?  I 
can think of a few ways, but I'm looking for more ideas, especially those 
that work..

Thanks,.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> Test

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Just a quite time I guess.  

Kevin in MO


KR> Car vs Aircraft engine use

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Maybe revolutions per lifetime would be a good way to figure it instead of  
miles per lifetime.  

Mark Langford.  How is the Corvair engine crankshaft thing  going?

Thanks

Kevin.


KR> N56ML flies!

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Wow!  I have been watching you through the net building on this airplane for 
some time.  You are an inspiration for all of us!  Congratulations!!!

Kevin 


KR> Foreign made tools

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Most of Sears tools are foreign.  It didn't used to be that way, but it is 
now.  Don't be fooled.

My brother in his teenage years used to work for a company that had him 
removing the "made in China" label and install a "made in USA" label.  It 
happens.

China and Taiwan things are still cheaply made, but things from Japan are 
very good.  The bearing supplier that we deal with daily at work says they have 
very good luck with Japanese bearings. 

Watch out for China.  They are fast becoming a world super power.

On another subject.  Is there only one place to buy an Ellison throttle body 
carb?   

Kevin.


KR> Foreign made tools

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Buying a car new, as of a few years ago, they are required to tell you 
"country of origin" and percentage of.

The problem I have noticed is that lets say Dodge builds the full size Ram 
truck in Mexico.  It is built in a Dodge factory, so I don't think they tell 
you 
it was assembled in Mexico.  

On this subject, years ago there was a buddy of mine who had a Chevy LUV 
truck.  He LUVED that truck and asked me one time why anyone would buy one of 
those Japanese trucks when they can buy a good "chevy" truck like a LUV.  He 
turned white when I showed him in plain site under the hood where it said "made 
in 
Japan."  

Buyer beware.
Kevin again.
Back to KRs


Re: Réf. : KR> Foreign made tools

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I agree.  European tools are like artwork.  My favorite German tool is the 
Stihl chainsaw.  That is one mean cutting machine!  What kind of tools is 
France known for?  I own a Renault 4CV and a Citroen 2CV, but don't know brand 
names of French tools.

Kevin 




-Original Message-
From: Serge VIDAL 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:05:14 +0200
Subject: Réf. : KR> Foreign made tools


Bob, can't believe the title of your E-mail! The KRNet is the wrong place 
for xenophobia!

I am a tools addict, and indeed, I have some great American tools. But I 
have also bought some very substandard American-made tools in my life! 

"Foreign" would include Germany, Switzerland, France...

"Countries in the far east" would include one of the best tools 
manufacturing countries in the world: Japan.

Buy the best tools you can afford. Beware of substandard tools made in 
China and Taiwan. But don't generalize that to "Foreign made", please!

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France





"Robert L. Stone" 

Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
2005-05-14 01:13
Veuillez répondre à KRnet
Remis le : 2005-05-14 01:16


Pour :  "KR Builders Pilots" 
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : KR> Foreign made tools



Builders
 Be very carful about buying tool from discount houses.  Most of the 
tools they sell are made in China, or Tiwan and a lot of them are not 
anywhere near the quality that is required to build an aircraft or 
anything else for that matter.  Someone advised the purchase of a band saw 
should be from Sears and I agree because the reason stated was replacement 
parts availability.  Also the quality of most of the power tools available 
from countries in the far east are below standard.  Buy the best even if 
you have to save up.  I have a drill press made by Rockwell that is 37 
years old, and still very much serviceable.  My large combination 
belt/disk sander is a craftsman and its 33 years old. My grinder is a 
Craftsman and it's 33 years old also and all I have ever replaced is the 
stone wheels.  Quality tools will last a lifetime and the extra cost is 
well worth the quality and durability

Bob Stone, Hareker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com
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KR> HVLP Paint

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I have an Accu Spray.  It was one of the first HVLP guns available.  Nice 
gun, but when new it was very expensivethinking around $600 and that was at 
least 15 years ago

Kevin.


KR> Learn from my mistake. (long)

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Maybe a micro switch with a big red indicator light wouldn't be a bad thing?

Glad your safe!

Kevin 


KR> Joe Horton

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
That is one goood looking bird!

Kevin.



-Original Message-
From: Mark Jones 
To: KR Net ; Corvaircraft 
Sent: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 16:27:09 -0500
Subject: KR> Joe Horton


I have updated Joe Horton's web page with four new photos he sent me. His plane 
is getting real close. Here is the link to take a look. 
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/JoeHorton2.html


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

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KR> rivnut question

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I don't think drilling the small hole first will work.  If you do that, then 
drilling the big hole will make the large bit want to "walk" into the smaller 
hole.  I go with the use of a file to make the notch.  Bottom line...Whatever 
works.  

I posted an accident that happened 1 week ago today with a KR2 in Cameron, 
MO.  Did anyone know the guy who was flying this KR?  Minor injuries reported 
with an engine failure on short final.  Aircraft destroyed.

Anyone have a set of Corby Starlet plans for sale?

Thanks!
Kevin




KR> KR Accident

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Hey Mark,
  You are one of the guys I would like to meet.  I really enjoy reading your 
posts on the net about your new plane.

  This is what I found on the FAA site as a preliminary finding.  I simply 
cut and pasted it from the FAA site.  If you use the registration #, the owner 
is easily found and lives in a small town just south of Cameron, MO.  This area 
is part of my old stomping grounds, but I don't know this guy.  I don't think 
I have seen any posts from him on this site either.  

Regis#: 316RPMake/Model: EXP   Description: KR2 EXP
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 04/14/2005 Time: 2303

Event Type: Accident   Highest Injury: Minor Mid Air: NMissing: N
Damage: Destroyed

LOCATION
City: CAMERON   State: MO   Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT ON APPROACH, ENGINE QUIT, STALLED, AND NOSED INTO THE DEPARTURE END OF 
THE RUNWAY, CAMERON, MO

INJURY DATA  Total Fatal:   0
# Crew:   1 Fat:   0 Ser:   0 Min:   1 Unk:
# Pass:   0 Fat:   0 Ser:   0 Min:   0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat:   0 Ser:   0 Min:   0 Unk:

WEATHER: METAR KSTJ 142253Z 13005KT 10SM CLR 20/01 A3015

OTHER DATA

Departed: CAMERON, MO Dep Date:Dep. Time:  
Destination: CAMERON, MO  Flt Plan:  Wx Briefing:  
Last Radio Cont: NONE
Last Clearance:  

FAA FSDO: KANSAS CITY, MO  (CE05)   Entry date: 04/15/2005 

I would like to know what happened.  I have even considered calling the owner 
to see what he has to say.  Maybe I should let the sting of aircraft loss go 
away before I do.  It would have to be terrible to loose an aircraft after so 
much work has gone into it.

Be safe Mark. 
Kevin.



KR> KR for sale with broken crank

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
That plane is on ebay.  

_http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=45445797
50&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT_ 
(http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4544579750&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT)
 

Good luck with the auction!

Kevin 



KR> Band saw blades.

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Some band saws have blade welders built into them.  The one I use at work has 
this feature.  Find someone with this and you should get a blade for almost 
nothing.

Kevin.


KR> dr dean hinges?

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
Somewhere I lost something.  What are Dr. Dean hinges?

Thanks
Kevin


KR> coatings

2008-10-12 Thread tinya...@aol.com
I thought Chroming anything on an airplane besides cosmetic things is a NO 
NO.  I have heard horror stories of the FAA red tagging showplanes with chrome 
work done on them.  

Chroming makes metal brittle.

Kevin.