Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Large increase in translation strings

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 12:04 AM Milos Sramek  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> yes, we poor guys who do not have Help translated get now hundreds of
> untranslated strings.

Exactly, especially hard for teams with limited number of participants (like 1).

> To translate them I use the ImTranslator extension (on firefox, but I
> think is available also for Chrome):
> https://about.imtranslator.net/add-ons/add-on-for-firefox/
>
> It speeds up translation significantly

If on Windows, QTranslator works perfectly.

Best regards,

>
> Milos
>
>
>
> On 8/28/20 3:46 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote:
> > Hi Rhoslyn,
> >
> > Rhoslyn Prys () kirjutas 28.08.2020 kell 15:05:
> >
> >> I've logged into Weblate this morning and found that there is a huge
> >> number of translations requested for the Welsh translation. It looks
> >> something like 34,000+ words. We were at 100% for LibreOffice 7.
> >>
> >> Is this correct? Thanks.
> >>
> > The bulk of them should be the extended help tips, which are in the process
> > of being copied from Help into UI.
> > As Help hasn't been translated into Welsh, then previously these tips would
> > have been shown to users in English.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mihkel
> > Estonian team
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Adding ckb to locale setting and win langpack

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi Jwtiyar,

For Format -> Locale setting, you probably should add ckb version to
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/i18npool/source/localedata/data,

Not sure about separate UI langpack file for LibreOffice.

Best regards,

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:24 AM Jwtiyar ali  wrote:
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> Hey I have to question:
>
> First, Why is Central Kurdish not available to select in Formats > Locale
> Setting ?
> Second, I want to download ckb langpack for windows, I can't find it in
> Daily builds and also download websites, I just want langpack not the whole
> app.
>
> Best Regards.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 7.0 banner for translation

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi Mike,

In Kazakh it is "Өнімділік - Үйлесімділік - Ыңғайлылық"

Thanks,

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:00 PM Mike Saunders
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've created this banner, that we can use for social media and other
> things around the LibreOffice 7.0 launch:
>
> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/LO70_banner_tagline_hires.png
>
> If anyone wants me to make a localised version, just post your
> translation of the three words "Performance - Compatibility - Usability"
> and I'll put them into the dark blue bar. Here's what I did for German,
> for instance:
>
> https://de.blog.documentfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2020/07/LO70_banner_tagline_hires_DE.png
>
> Note that the English uses nouns, and the German version adjectives, so
> feel free to play around and use whatever's best for your language. The
> main goal is to show those three focal points of the release!
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Incorrectly translated string in many languages

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi Mihkel,

For Kazakh latin script/layout - no official version yet, haven't
heard of any progress in that area, only drafts/suggestions were
announced.

For now it is safe to consider only current Kazakh layout which is
based on Cyrillic script,

We have a comma mapped to the main keyboard's `6` key which gives `;`
when pressed with Shift
(and period on `7` key, with Shift gives `:`).

Thanks for your initiative!

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:37 PM Mihkel Tõnnov  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm preparing a patch to add the same shortcut exceptions [1] for more
> languages where a dedicated semicolon key most likely isn't available on
> the keyboard - meaning that more languages would then also need to update
> the translation of the string mentioned in previous mail. While some
> locales appear rather clear-cut cases, there are others where I have
> unanswered questions.
> [1] Ctrl+comma and Shift+Ctrl+comma instead of Ctrl+semicolon and
> Shift+Ctrl+semicolon - for Mac, substitute Command for Ctrl.
>
> I have CC'd people from relevant language teams (as far as they are listed
> on our Language Teams wiki page) in case they are somehow not members of
> this list (sorry if anyone is annoyed by getting this email twice). Replies
> should only be sent to the list, though, not to everyone in CC.
>
> Do tell if you have objections to adding this change for your language, for
> example because everyone in your locale actually uses a US keyboard (or
> another layout that has a dedicated semicolon key). I tried to do a bit
> more research this time, but Wikipedia, Google, Microsoft keyboard layouts
> page [2] and various local IT-shops' websites are no match for someone who
> actually knows the local situation.
> [2] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/globalization/windows-keyboard-layouts
>
> == Should be rather clear-cut, but asking for confirmation just in case ==
> Aragonese (an) - presumably most users have Spanish layout?
> Asturian (ast) - ... Asturian layout (on physical Spanish keyboard)?
> Bavarian (bar) - ... German layout?
> Catalan (ca) - ... Catalan layout (on physical Spanish keyboard)?
> Catalan (ca_VALENCIA) - ... Catalan layout (on physical Spanish keyboard)?
> Friulian (fur) - ... Friulian layout (on physical Italian keyboard)?
> Galician (gl) - ... Spanish layout?
> Greenlandic (kl) - ... Nordic/Danish layout?
> Nahuatl (nah) - ... Latin American layout?
> Sorbian, Lower (dsb) - ... Sorbian layout (on German physical keyboard)?
> Sorbian, Upper (hsb) - ... Sorbian layout (on German physical keyboard)?
> Venetian (vec) - ... Italian layout?
>
> == Unclear which layout the majority of users have ==
> Abkhazian (ab) - which layout(s)/keyboard(s)?
> Basque (eu) - according to Wikipedia, ca. 1M in Spain and ca. 0.2M in
> France - so Spanish layout?
> Chechen (ce) - which layout(s)/keyboard(s)?
> Guarani (gug) - according to Wikipedia, used in Paraguay, Bolivia,
> Argentina, Brazil - so Latin American or pt-BR?
> Kurmanji (kmr_LATN) - according to Wikipedia, used in Turkey, Syria, Iraq,
> Iran - is there a common layout?
> Luxembourgish (lb) - according to Wikipedia, used in Luxembourg and parts
> of Germany, Belgium, France - is there a common layout?
> Macedonian (mk) - Macedonian layout or something else?
> Occitan (oc) - according to Wikipedia, used in France, Spain, Italy, Monaco
> (For all of these, see also the notes at the end of this email.)
>
> == Languages written using multiple scripts ==
> Mongolian (mn) - Cyrillic and Mongolian script. LibO localization is in
> Cyrillic. Period, comma and colon keys exist on Cyrillic layout (however
> Shift+comma produces "8"), so Ctrl+period and Ctrl+comma / Ctrl+colon could
> be used? The Mongolian script layout is very different, and I found
> conflicting information about whether or not it has a dedicated semicolon
> key (seems to have a period key, though). If it has semicolon as well, then
> Ctrl+period and Ctrl+semicolon could be used. (See also the note at the end
> of this email.)
> Uzbek (uz) - Latin and Cyrillic. LibO localization is in Latin script (and
> the Uzbek Latin layout has a semicolon key) - but reportedly Cyrillic
> script is still much used, so are the shortcut exceptions needed
> nonetheless? (See also the notes at the end of this email.)
>
> == Layouts without comma key ==
> Most Cyrillic layouts lack a dedicated comma key as well as a semicolon key
> (with Shift+period producing a comma), so another shortcut should be found
> for inserting date/time. What does Excel use (if it has a localized
> version)? If MS documentation is correct, then e.g. in Russian Excel,
> Ctrl+Shift+colon inserts the time and Ctrl+Shift+semicolon the date (but as
> colon is produced by Shift+6 on Russian layout and semicolon by Shift+4,
> then presumably these are essentially Ctrl+Shift+6 and Ctrl+Shift+4).
> Azeri (az) - Latin script, but no comma key - here, too, comma is produced
> by Shift+period.
> Belarussian (be)
> Kazakh (kk) - adoption of Latin scrip

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Incorrectly translated string in many languages

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi Mihkel,

Kazakh keyboard layout is based on Russian, and does not have the
separate key assigned to semicolon.

Thanks for the heads up!

Best regards,

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:01 AM Mihkel Tõnnov  wrote:
>
> Hi *,
>
> There's a problematic string in LibO UI cui/messages.po which for many
> languages has been impossible to properly localize:
> "Need to insert the date in a spreadsheet cell? Type %MOD1+; or
> Shift+%MOD1+; to insert the time."
>
> Many European keyboard layouts don't have a dedicated semicolon key
> (Shift+comma is used instead), so only one of these shortcuts works (the
> one for time).
>
> For a handful of languages, there has been an exception added to the code
> to use %MOD1+comma and Shift+%MOD1+comma instead:
> Finnish (fi) - translations still refers to semicolon
> Portuguese in Europe (pt) - translation completely omits the second/third
> key in the shortcut
> Portuguese in Brasil (pt-BR) - translations still refers to semicolon
> Russian (ru) - translations still refers to semicolon
> Spanish (es) (not translated)
>
> Starting from LibreOffice 7.0, the same exception is added for a number of
> additional languages [1]:
> Albanian (sq)
> Bosnian (bs)
> Croatian (hr)
> Danish (da)
> Dutch in the Netherlands (nl-NL)
> German (de)
> Estonian (et)
> Faroese (fo)
> Icelandic (is)
> Italian (it)
> Norwegian Bokmål (nb)
> Norwegian Nynorsk (nn) - also translation probably should say "Tast «%MOD1
> + ,» eller «Shift + %MOD1 + ,»" not "Skriv" ;)
> Romanian (ro)
> Serbian (sr)
> Slovenian (sl)
> Swedish (sv)
> Turkish (tr) - also typo in existing translation of "%MOD1"
>
> Members of these language teams should test (using the daily builds) if the
> shortcut works on a system that uses their language for UI [2].
> If it does, their translation of the above string should refer to comma
> key, not semicolon key.
> And if it doesn't work, let me know (along with details about your OS
> locale and keyboard and LibO locale/UI language).
>
> Also, I suspect we will need to add exceptions for more languages still.
> So, if your language is not mentioned above, and your keyboard doesn't have
> a separate semicolon key either, then please let me know. I think the
> European "smaller" languages are probable candidates here (Lower/Upper
> Sorbian, Frisian, Friulian, Galician, Venetian, etc.)
>
> [1] See https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94305
> [2] The exception is unfortunately dependent on UI language, not actual
> keyboard layout or even locale - see
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134470
>
> Best regards,
> Mihkel
> Estonian translator
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Dear Sophie,

We've been using "nplurals=1; plural=0" form for quite a while in,
say, GNOME and Xfce, and Mozilla as well and never had any problems.

Could you please revert the Pootle plural form of Kazakh language to it?

I will silence the printf checks then as Christian suggested.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:33 PM sophi  wrote:
>
> Hi Baurzhan,
> Le 04/11/2018 à 16:07, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
> > Dear Sophie,
> >
> > Could you please update Kazakh plural forms to "nplurals=1; plural=0" ?
>
> It's already in Pootle, let me know if you meet any issue.
> Cheers
> Sophie

Hi Sophie,
I see an error at
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/translate/sc/messages.po#unit=159071307
When I downloaded PO file directly, the plural forms header was not
present in it.
Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Plural forms in Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Dear Sophie,

Could you please update Kazakh plural forms to "nplurals=1; plural=0" ?

Thanks in advance,
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:23 PM sophi  wrote:
>
> Hi Dmitris,
>
> Le 02/11/2018 à 08:24, ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗΣ Σ a écrit :
> > High,
> > in Greek it is displayed as (e.g. STR_SCATTR_PAGE_SCALE_PAGES
> > Τοποθεσίες: sc/inc/globstr.hrc:317 Μονάδα #159066571
> > 
> > )
> > English
> > Μορφή πληθυντικού του 0
> > One page
> > Μορφή πληθυντικού του 1
> > %1 pages
> >
> > in English and the relevant in Greek
> > which is
> > Plural form 0
> > One page
> > and Plural form 1
> > %1 pages
> >
> > and is probably wrong
> > and the translation of English in Greek (for the English part is wrong).
> > Plurals form for Greek is nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);
> > and in Plural rules it is only for some kind feminine.
>
> Thanks for your feedback. I'll check and correct the plural form if it's
> different, otherwise, I'll come back to you.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Downloading and uploading files at Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 8:05 PM, Joan Montané  wrote:
> Hi, *
>
> I translate at TDF Pootle usually, but I can remember downloading and
> uploading a zip archive with all po files from project (for instance
> 'libui').
>
> Today, I was unable to find dowload/upload links. I'm missing something?
> Are these features gone!?
>
> Thanks,
> Joan Montané
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Hi Joan,

You have to log in to Pootle, open your language, then project (libui),
and on right side panel you will have the link to download zip archive.

Links itself is like
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/export/?path=/kk/libo_ui/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Survey for deprecated features: help to translate it in your language

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Sophie  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Copying part of Heiko's message:
> --
> as we discussed in the ESC we want to run a survey about deprecated
> features. I prepared a couple of questions with potential candidates
> with some distractor questions and would like to ask you and the l10n
> team for translation. The attached document (don't see a simple way to
> enable anonymous access in our LimeSurvey installation) contains the
> welcome/end text and questions with English original and German
> translation, though both need proof-reading as my English is obviously
> non-native and I'm not running a German setup (and went very quickly
> over the text).
> ---
>
> So if you want your local community to participate in their language,
> please translate the attached document and send it back to me. There is
> no emergency, so even in the two next weeks is ok.
> Thanks a lot in advance for your help!
>
> Cheers
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Hi Sophie,

It looks like your attachment was stripped out.

Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Double assistant languages strings

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Michael Wolf  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'v just seen on Pootle that some strings of assistant languages are double.
> See my screenshot attached.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
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Hi,
There is no attachment - probably those are stripped out in this mailing list.
Try to load your screenshot to image sharing service and provide a link.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] IMPORTANT: do not touch sc/ and formula/

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sophie  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Cloph has made a script to auto-translate sc/ and formula/ do not touch
> them for the moment. He will run the auto translation as soon as Pootle
> is more responsive.
> Changes in these files are due to code refactoring and changes in the
> way strings are referenced in the code. Cloph and me have not been aware
> of this changes and I'll report that to the ESC today.
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience and we hope that will help you in this extra
> work. And thanks a lot to Cloph for his work on this.
>
> I'll keep you updated of the result of the auto-translation.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
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Hi,

I think that scaddins is also a good candidate for auto-translation,

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Really 8,000 words more for Master%

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi all,

BTW when I try to upload large file, I always get 504 gateway timeout error,
I used formula/source/core/resource.po file in Kazakh (kk) version.
In fact this PO does not require translation, I just copied the
messages to translations,
since those are all formulas.
But now I am unable to upload it to Pootle,

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:33 PM, Sophia Schroeder
 wrote:
> I am Sophia(S), not Sophie Gautier,
>
> I hope you don't confuse us two. ;-)
>
> And I am relatively new and maybe overenthusiastic here with my contribution 
> part.
> I was lurking around OOo / LO since beginning.
>
>> Michael Bauer  hat am 13. April 2017 um 20:21 
>> geschrieben:
>>
>> Hi Sophie,
>>
>> I know, sorry if you felt this was aimed at you - it wasn't - though I 
>> am quite certain your assessment was correct, which is why I "replied" to 
>> your post. It was aimed at whoever is letting this happen again and again 
>> and again. This has been a complaint for as long as I can remember on LO and 
>> I'm somewhere between gutted and furious that it's still happening. Sure, 
>> maybe a locale like German or French has the translators to throw at another 
>> 28k of work that was already done but most locales aren't that fortunate. 
>> Take Uyghur, it was at 97% when OO and LO split. There hasn't been much 
>> translation activity in this locale in both OO and LO since and there 
>> haven't been *that* many genuinely new strings in LO actually but that has 
>> left Uyghur on 61% and if I click through the strings on Uyghur, it's one 
>> 100% match after the other.
>>
>> Yes, this is an angry post (not angry at Sophia) but before someone 
>> slaps me down for being angry, maybe ask yourself at which point getting 
>> angry is justified in a FOSS project when someone somewhere for some arcane 
>> reason keeps wasting your lifetime as if it didn't matter. Do we really want 
>> to burn out localizers like they were a dime a dozen?
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Sgrìobh Sophia Schroeder na leanas 13/04/2017 aig 19:05:
>>
>> > >
>> > Hi Michael, *
>> >
>> > I am the wrong person to give you proper answers. Am just a 
>> > translator like you.
>> >
>> > I just wrote from my personal POV and vague knowledge from what 
>> > I'm getting.
>> >
>> > Christian Lohmaier is the right reference person for such things.
>> >
>> > So look at his mails about this issues. :-)
>> >
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Extra files on Pootle

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On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Sophie  wrote:
> Hi Giovanni,
> Le 04/12/2016 à 21:56, Giovanni Caligaris a écrit :
>> Hello
>>
>> I just noticed the Master string for Guarani has some extra files
>>
>> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gug/libo_ui/
>>
>> These are the files
>>
>>  accessories.po
>>  area.po
>>  dlg.po
>>  formdlg.po
>>  sidebar.po
>>  sv_SE.po
>>
>> They are right under the xmlsecurity folder. Is that supposed to be there?
>
> No, are you sure that your team didn't upload them there instead of
> there normal location? If not get a copy of them in case and you can
> remove them.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
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Hi,
Same extra files here for
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/
I did not upload them, probably glitches of automated updating from templates?
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[libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 5.2 branch on Pootle - when?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

Just wanted to check if current master is settled down
for 5.2 release.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 4.3 and 4.4 projects removal from Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

Kazakh (kk) 4.3 and 4.4 can be removed

Thanks,

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Sophie  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> To help Christian doing this once instead of a per language basis, who
> is willing to have 4.4 and 4.3 projects removed from Pootle? Please, add
> your language in this thread:
> -
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle server error?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

Pootle server again showing refresh loops.

Could someone please fix it?

Thanks,

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Rimas Kudelis  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 2015-12-21 15:18, Sophie wrote:
>> Le 21/12/2015 13:20, Berend Ytsma a écrit :
>>> Is the server error also the reason that Frisian isn't available for
>>> translation?
>> It's something different, I think Michael has had an issue in creating
>> the language. If somebody else with admin rights could have a look, it
>> would be great.
>
> I just attempted to do that as well. The language gets "sort of"
> created, but it doesn't become available for translation. I was goind to
> do an "update from templates", but it seems this feature has been
> temporarily removed from Pootle 2.7, and I don't think I have shell
> access to the server anymore, so I can't do it the other way.
>
> I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the background job
> statistics noting that there are 65 pending and 1 failed jobs, and that
> the background job status is stopped. Perhaps that has to be addressed
> for Pootle to work properly?..
>
> Rimas
>
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Many strings in Pootle, LO master, module basic marked as fuzzy

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

ping

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just noticed that about half of the messages
> in LibreOffice master, basic module were marked
> as fuzzy. Browsing through them, I didn't notice any
> change of those original messages.
>
> Were they marked fuzzy by a mistake?
>
> Language code is Kazakh (kk)
>
> Thanks,

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[libreoffice-l10n] Many strings in Pootle, LO master, module basic marked as fuzzy

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

Just noticed that about half of the messages
in LibreOffice master, basic module were marked
as fuzzy. Browsing through them, I didn't notice any
change of those original messages.

Were they marked fuzzy by a mistake?

Language code is Kazakh (kk)

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] What does mean "Search Formatted Display String"

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

I am insterested in this as well,

Thanks,

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Jean-Baptiste Faure
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The string "Search Formatted Display String" is not clear for me.
>
> This string must be translated two times:
>
> in tbunosearchcontrollers.src RID_SVXSTR_FINDBAR_SEARCHFORMATTED string.text
> Comment: AqBA9
> libo_ui/svx/source/tbxctrls.po Unit #100861092
>
> and as "Search formatted display string" in
> findreplacedialog.ui searchformatted label string.text
> Comment: ihU4u
> libo_ui/svx/uiconfig/ui.po Unit #100861184
>
> This second string is in the Find & Replace dialog for Calc and does not
> have an extended tooltip nor explanation in the help page.
>
> I do not see any difference if checked or or not.
>
> Best regards.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Basic tool to detect duplicate use of accelerator keys in menus

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,
Do you have updated macros, or is it still the same? When do you think
your patch will enter regular release, wIll it make to 5.0.x?

Thanks,

On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Niklas Johansson
 wrote:
> Last Friday my first patch towards this issue got pushed, so now the tool
> should
> work on the master branch, even for non ascii characters.
>
> I did a test with the tool on the language Kazakh, you'll find the report
> below.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1yguco1u2w0s6c/Kazakh%20-%20Accelerator%20key%20check%20report.odt?dl=1
>
> Regards,
> Niklas Johansson
>
>
> Den 2015-09-24 kl. 14:12, skrev Baurzhan Muftakhidinov:
>>
>> Well done, Niklas!
>> Although It looks like for Cyrillic locales accelerators are not being put
>> to result correctly, all I see is little rectangles instead of actual
>> accellerator letters.
>> Latin letters are being processed correctly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Niklas Johansson
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Michael
>>>
>>> Well this is not as big a problem as you make it. Basically you open the
>>> document I sent a link to earlier. The UI language of LibreOffice should
>>> be
>>> set to the language that you want to check. Generate the report, which
>>> will
>>> list all menus and sub-menus and highlight the problematic menu entries.
>>> Save the file and change the UI language to KeyID and reopen the report
>>> there. Now you can easily find the exact string in Pootle.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you do not know what KeyID is and how to use it.
>>>
>>> /Niklas
>>>
>>> 2015-09-24 11:29 GMT+02:00 Michael Bauer :
>>>
>>>> Hi Niklas,
>>>>
>>>> This has often been debated but I don't think anything ever happened.
>>>> The
>>>> main issue with any such tool is that unless it links to the unique UI
>>>> string, it's not much help because most of the time there are like 50
>>>> incidences of &Edit and to make matters worse, we have _Edit and &Edit
>>>> type
>>>> hotkeys and worse still, if I search for Edit and the string is E&dit,
>>>> it
>>>> won't get found.
>>>>
>>>> The summary of previous discussions is that if a locale does not assign
>>>> hotkeys, the system does it automatically - which no one tells you when
>>>> you
>>>> start out, and while I'd prefer that for our locale, I don't have the
>>>> resources to strip all existing hotkeys. Other than that, there are the
>>>> usual problems of not knowing the scope (i.e. what other UI strings are
>>>> sharing the menu with said string) and restricted letter sets (Gaelic
>>>> has
>>>> 18 letters, fewer if you ignore letters with descenders...)
>>>>
>>>> Ideally I think we'd need a tool which during localization flags
>>>> "Duplicated hotkey in menu scope" + list of strings in scope. And/or a
>>>> tool
>>>> that allows locales which do not want to assign hotkeys manually to
>>>> strip
>>>> them all from the existing files so the system can automatically deal
>>>> with
>>>> the issue.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> Sgrìobh Niklas Johansson na leanas 24/09/2015 aig 10:01:
>>>>
>>>> After thinking a bit about it I instead decided to write a small tool in
>>>>>
>>>>> basic that uses the accessibility interfaces to traverse the menus and
>>>>> print a report in Writer. This makes it possible to run from Linux,
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> and even on Mac. You'll find some more information on how to use the
>>>>> tool
>>>>> in the document below (also containing the relevant macros).
>>>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Basic tool to detect duplicate use of accelerator keys in menus

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Well done, Niklas!
Although It looks like for Cyrillic locales accelerators are not being put
to result correctly, all I see is little rectangles instead of actual
accellerator letters.
Latin letters are being processed correctly.

Thanks,

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Niklas Johansson
 wrote:
> Hi Michael
>
> Well this is not as big a problem as you make it. Basically you open the
> document I sent a link to earlier. The UI language of LibreOffice should be
> set to the language that you want to check. Generate the report, which will
> list all menus and sub-menus and highlight the problematic menu entries.
> Save the file and change the UI language to KeyID and reopen the report
> there. Now you can easily find the exact string in Pootle.
>
> Let me know if you do not know what KeyID is and how to use it.
>
> /Niklas
>
> 2015-09-24 11:29 GMT+02:00 Michael Bauer :
>
>> Hi Niklas,
>>
>> This has often been debated but I don't think anything ever happened. The
>> main issue with any such tool is that unless it links to the unique UI
>> string, it's not much help because most of the time there are like 50
>> incidences of &Edit and to make matters worse, we have _Edit and &Edit type
>> hotkeys and worse still, if I search for Edit and the string is E&dit, it
>> won't get found.
>>
>> The summary of previous discussions is that if a locale does not assign
>> hotkeys, the system does it automatically - which no one tells you when you
>> start out, and while I'd prefer that for our locale, I don't have the
>> resources to strip all existing hotkeys. Other than that, there are the
>> usual problems of not knowing the scope (i.e. what other UI strings are
>> sharing the menu with said string) and restricted letter sets (Gaelic has
>> 18 letters, fewer if you ignore letters with descenders...)
>>
>> Ideally I think we'd need a tool which during localization flags
>> "Duplicated hotkey in menu scope" + list of strings in scope. And/or a tool
>> that allows locales which do not want to assign hotkeys manually to strip
>> them all from the existing files so the system can automatically deal with
>> the issue.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Sgrìobh Niklas Johansson na leanas 24/09/2015 aig 10:01:
>>
>> After thinking a bit about it I instead decided to write a small tool in
>>> basic that uses the accessibility interfaces to traverse the menus and
>>> print a report in Writer. This makes it possible to run from Linux,
>>> Windows
>>> and even on Mac. You'll find some more information on how to use the tool
>>> in the document below (also containing the relevant macros).
>>>
>>
>> --
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>> Facs: +44-141-945 2701
>>
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>> Iomadh rud eadar prògraman oifis, brabhsairean, predictive texting,
>> geamannan is mòran a bharrachd. Tadhail oirnn aig www.iGàidhlig.net
>>  
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] missing translations on Windows

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

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On 2015-06-15 13:27, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Milos Sramek 
wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> some strings in 4.4.3.2 Calc on Windows are not translated. In Linux it
>> is OK. See the attached image.
>>
> Your image is not found from your email.
>
> Upload it somewhere (like imgur) and provide a link instead
>
> Regards,
>

Sorry, I forgot that attachments are not allowed. Here it is:
http://bender.dam.fmph.uniba.sk/~milos/4.4.3.2-sk.odg
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] missing translations on Windows

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Milos Sramek  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> some strings in 4.4.3.2 Calc on Windows are not translated. In Linux it
> is OK. See the attached image.
>

Your image is not found from your email.

Upload it somewhere (like imgur) and provide a link instead

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle error after uploading zip file with translations

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On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Sophie  wrote:
> Hi,
> Le 30/11/2014 10:28, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
>> Good day,
>>
>> I've worked locally on translations, and then uploaded
>> results to pootle in single zip file.
>> In result, some internal folders are being shown on main page
>> and the number of entries has doubled.
>>
>> See https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/
>>
>> Could someone please fix this?
>
> you should be able to delete the extra folders using the Delete this
> folder on the right.
> Kind regards
> Sophie
>
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Ok, I've uploaded the same zip file again and it worked,

Thanks for you help!

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[libreoffice-l10n] Pootle error after uploading zip file with translations

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Good day,

I've worked locally on translations, and then uploaded
results to pootle in single zip file.
In result, some internal folders are being shown on main page
and the number of entries has doubled.

See https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/

Could someone please fix this?

Thanks,

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[libreoffice-l10n] Inconsistency between web stats and downloaded PO file

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

I just noticed that there are inconsistency between what I see
on web stats and downloaded PO file.

Checked on 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/cui/uiconfig/ui.po

Web page says: total 1886 strings, fuzzy 373, untranslated 105 (total
481 not ready)
Downloaded PO file: total 1886 strings, fuzzy 0, untranslated 536

I didn't trigger updating from templates or anything else,

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Old TM removed from Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

I hope it is not too late to request removal of old TM
for Kazakh (kk) language,

Thanks,

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Naruhiko Ogasawara  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For Japanese language (ja), please remove the old TM.
> We, Japanese team already discussed about it.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] creating projects for 4.4 now

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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Christian Lohmaier
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> Hi *,
>
> so in case you wonder why pootle is unresponsive in the next hours
>
> ciao
> Christian
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Hi Christian,

I see that LibreOffice 4.4 – UI project added 8333 messages.
Does it mean that we can start our work on 4.4 l10n? E.g. update
finished, everything is ok?

Thanks!

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unstranslated strings in new print dialog

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

I have GTK UI 100% translated to Kazakh.
For example I took one string "Print text in black", and I see it is
translated in Pootle
(https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/translate/sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui.po#unit=40113340)
but in the print dialog this message is in English (http://imgur.com/VlceDNe).

Regards,

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>  wrote:
>> I have installed LibreOffice 4.3.0 RC1 from rpms,
>> and still I notice that new pring dialog is not completely
>> localized. Some strings are on English.
>> On Pootle I have 100% translated Kazakh language.
>
> LibreOffice extends system's print dialog. Those English strings may
> come from the system (gtk). Please file a bug and attach a screenshot,
> so we can tell it for sure.
>
> Thanks,
> Andras

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[libreoffice-l10n] Unstranslated strings in new print dialog

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Good day,

I have installed LibreOffice 4.3.0 RC1 from rpms,
and still I notice that new pring dialog is not completely
localized. Some strings are on English.
On Pootle I have 100% translated Kazakh language.

There will be another round of templates update?

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates updated for 4.3 (help and ui)

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi,

I don't know the easy way, but what I could think of is:

1) restore message to pre-updated state via archive Chrisian provided and ask
him to run update

2) If you have hunspell for you language available, then using python-polib,
you could extract all translated messages, split them by whitespace/dot/comma,
put them to a set (python object which allows only unique objects to
exist in it),
and run a hunspell check over all words, printing only words which do
not pass the
spell checker.

Thanks,

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Mihovil Stanic  wrote:
> Well, I updated manually, but I'm not sure if my strings got messed up.
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/
>
> What do I need to search for to see if strings are messed up?
>
> Best regards,
> Mihovil
>
> Dana 1.6.2014 23:26, Christian Lohmaier je napisao:
>
>> Hi *,
>>
>> As unfortunately triggering the update via webUI still causes the
>> random-strings-from-other langauges included, I won't propose this in
>> future anymore
>>
>> I'll trigger the update_against_templates for all languages now - for
>> languages that already did trigger the update in the webui:
>>
>> You can find a backup of the files before the update_against_templates
>> here:
>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-05-30/ui.tar.bz2
>>
>> I could reset the translations to that for you if you tell me so.
>>
>> ciao
>> Christian
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates updated for 4.3 (help and ui)

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi Chritstian,

I restored the state of Kazakh language to ensure it is ok - and it is.

Could you please update Kazakh language against new templates?

Thanks for your help!

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> As unfortunately triggering the update via webUI still causes the
> random-strings-from-other langauges included, I won't propose this in
> future anymore
>
> I'll trigger the update_against_templates for all languages now - for
> languages that already did trigger the update in the webui:
>
> You can find a backup of the files before the update_against_templates here:
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-05-30/ui.tar.bz2
>
> I could reset the translations to that for you if you tell me so.
>
> ciao
> Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates updated for 4.3 (help and ui)

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
 wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Christian Lohmaier
>  wrote:
>> Hi *,
>>
>> the templates have been updated for the LibreOffice 4.3 help and ui projects.
>>
>> ### For UI, you have to trigger the update yourself
>> ###
>> ### (will trigger for all languages on Monday evening)
>>
>> * For Help, the update_against_templates is run right now
>> * for all languages — you don't need to trigger it yourself
>>
>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-05-30/libo_help_2014-05-30.diff.html
>> Changes in help are mostly alignment of the terms graphic/picture to image.
>> 38 hids did change in the attributes (those are updated automatically)
>>
>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-05-30/libo_help_2014-05-30.diff.html
>> Changes in ui are mostly typo-fixes and dialog conversion moves.
>>
>> A lot of numerical IDs have been replaced with more descriptive labels
>> in the context part (i.e. not the actual string, but the comment for
>> it) - so the diff looks huge, but the actual changes to the text
>> itself is much smaller, around 100 strings have been touched.
>>
>> ciao
>> Christian
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> Hello,
>
> Thanks for heads up,
>
> I get an connection timeout error for the Update from templates link,
> (I suppose it takes so long that Firefox decides that server would not 
> respond)
>
> After I re-open the https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/
> I see that many (6968) of the correct strings are in Needs work state now.
> Is that because of Update from templates failed?

Good day,

Again the Pootle has put translations from another language
as fuzzy translations, after the Update from templates link
finished its work.

See for example
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/translate/#filter=fuzzy&unit=46410474

Could you please fix that?

Thank you very much

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates updated for 4.3 (help and ui)

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> the templates have been updated for the LibreOffice 4.3 help and ui projects.
>
> ### For UI, you have to trigger the update yourself
> ###
> ### (will trigger for all languages on Monday evening)
>
> * For Help, the update_against_templates is run right now
> * for all languages — you don't need to trigger it yourself
>
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-05-30/libo_help_2014-05-30.diff.html
> Changes in help are mostly alignment of the terms graphic/picture to image.
> 38 hids did change in the attributes (those are updated automatically)
>
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-05-30/libo_help_2014-05-30.diff.html
> Changes in ui are mostly typo-fixes and dialog conversion moves.
>
> A lot of numerical IDs have been replaced with more descriptive labels
> in the context part (i.e. not the actual string, but the comment for
> it) - so the diff looks huge, but the actual changes to the text
> itself is much smaller, around 100 strings have been touched.
>
> ciao
> Christian
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Hello,

Thanks for heads up,

I get an connection timeout error for the Update from templates link,
(I suppose it takes so long that Firefox decides that server would not respond)

After I re-open the https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/
I see that many (6968) of the correct strings are in Needs work state now.
Is that because of Update from templates failed?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] extra comments on top of po files

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi Sophie, Baurzhan, *,
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Sophie  wrote:
>> Hi Baurzhan,
>> Le 18/05/2014 03:28, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
>>>
>>> While preparing to 4.3 translation, I have
>>> noticed that PO files downloaded from Pootle
>>> contain a comment like this as first line of file
>>>
>>> #. extracted from cui/uiconfig/ui
>
> This is not an invalid line, more specifically it is a "extracted
> comment" in gnu-terminology:
> https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/PO-Files.html
> "Comment lines starting with #. contain comments given by the
> programmer, directed at the translator; these comments are called
> extracted comments because the xgettext program extracts them from the
> program's source code"
>
> In general, every line that starts with # is a comment. Some comments
> have special meaning, like the #, fuzzy marker, and others like #~ are
> used by pootle internally (this flags obsolete strings, i.e. strings
> that once needed to be translated, but are no longer used in the
> current version.
>
>>> These comments are gone if I save the PO file
>>> with Poedit, for example. Aren't they against the
>>> PO file format?
>>
>> Poedit don't show the comment but it still should be in the po file if
>> you edit it with gedit for example.
>>>
>>> Is it safe to remove these comments from PO files?
>
> The first line shouldn't matter, but you should avoid throwing away
> the other comments, as the other comment lines contain the context for
> the string - so when you remove the comments, pootle (or other tools)
> cannot tell what string the translation belongs to, esp. when the
> english string is the same for both.
>
>> not sure, Cloph will have to confirm if it's only an indication or used
>> somewhere.
>
> It isn't safe to remove all comments, and #. and #: style comments are
> commonly used, so I would be surprised if poedit would throw them all
> away.
> That being said the one in the very first line is not critical, so no
> need to worry if that gets lost.
>
> But if the comments above the individual translation strings also are
> stripped, then you should have a closer look at the program's settings
> or use another one.
>
> ciao
> Christian
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Hello Christian,

Thanks for explanations, I am aware of importance of the comments,
I was just curious about that specific, first-line comment,
as it does not belong to any entry in PO file, so it is thrown away by Poedit.

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Duplicated folder on Pootle after zip file upload

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have uploaded updated translations to Pootle
> using the zip file. Now I have duplicated folders
> chart2 and chart2/source/controller
>
> Could you please cleanup the second one?
>
> I am afraid to delete it, I don't want to lose data.
>
> Thanks,

Nevermind,

'Rescan project files' helped,

Regards,

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[libreoffice-l10n] Duplicated folder on Pootle after zip file upload

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

I have uploaded updated translations to Pootle
using the zip file. Now I have duplicated folders
chart2 and chart2/source/controller

Could you please cleanup the second one?

I am afraid to delete it, I don't want to lose data.

Thanks,

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[libreoffice-l10n] extra comments on top of po files

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

While preparing to 4.3 translation, I have
noticed that PO files downloaded from Pootle
contain a comment like this as first line of file

#. extracted from cui/uiconfig/ui

These comments are gone if I save the PO file
with Poedit, for example. Aren't they against the
PO file format?

Is it safe to remove these comments from PO files?

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle upgrade planned on 11th of March

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We plan to upgrade TDF Pootle on 11th of March, Tuesday. Pootle will
> not be accessible during the upgrade. Please make sure you finish work
> / upload translations by Monday, which is the translation deadline for
> LibreOffice 4.2.3 RC1.
>
> Thanks,
> Andras
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Hello,

Just to clarify - there are no string changes since version 4.2.2.1?

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings from Calc options unstranslated

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Sérgio Marques  wrote:
> Can please someone check if this happen to you?
>
> Open new Calc document.
>
> Tools -> Options -> Libreoffice Calc options
>
> All option title is in English (General, Defaults, View...)
>
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Which version/build of LibreOffice?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] RC2 with pt-BR

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Mateusz Zasuwik  wrote:
> Hey
>
> We have similar problem with Polish translations. It include a few German
> words discovered by accident. I can repair it manually, but how can I find
> and filter all non-Polish strings?

Run a diff against latest pre/release?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] RC2

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:53 AM, Mateusz Zasuwik  wrote:
> I can confirm. Just DEBs are broken.
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I am afraid RPMs are not installable too due to wrong dependencies,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Another bad string in nath

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Sérgio Marques  wrote:
> String fixes:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-4-2
>
> Thanks Andras
>
>
> 2014/1/5 Martin Srebotnjak 
>
>> 2014/1/5 Milos Sramek 
>>
>> > Or, should I file a bug because of this?
>> >
>>
>> With the amount of different error reports on these tooltips (on this and
>> maybe other mailing lists) I suggest you file a bug and ask other who have
>> reported errors in this area of UI to add their findings to the bug.
>>
>> Unless Andras or others has already started to fix the reported errors ...
>>
>> Lp, m.
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Do we have to update against templates manually on Pootle, or will it
be done from command line (the safe way)?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Tajik Language Support (tg)

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Victor Ibragimov
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> It seems to be Tajik files cannot be downloaded from Pootle for offline
> translation. If that function is not currently working on Pootle - is there
> a way to get Tajik files for offline translation?
>
> That would be also great to add Tajik to Terminology project. I would like
> to work on it first.
>
>
>
> Victor
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Hi,

Pootle gives an error message when downloading zip file fails. Please
attach such message.
(it has reference to error).

That function works for Kazakh, at least.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Langauges a-k: pocheck errors (errors causing runtime problems): please fix

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> as the original mail was rejected because it was too large, here it is
> split in two parts. :-)
>
> translations are run through pocheck utility that discards
> translations for stuff that cause runtime-problems. Specifically, it
> checks whether
>
> * style names are unique
> * math symbol identifiers contain spaces
> * calc functions are unique
> * windows installer strings (where english ends with "|", translation
> must end with "|" too)
>   @Andras: Can you clarify how this works with RTL? he for example has
> RTL-marker after/before |
>
> The following languages have one or more of the above errors. If your
> langauge is not in the following list, feel free to ignore the rest of
> the mail. If you're listed, search for "# " to
> jump to the list of errors in your language (as of today's pootle
> export)
>
> Langauges with errors: am as bg bn-IN bo brx bs cy da dgo dz eo es eu
> fa fr gl gu he hi id ja ka kk km kmr-Latn kn ko kok ks
>

> Pocheck error report for # kk #
>  Style name translations must be unique — See STR_POOLCOLL_*
> Duplicated translations in file sw/source/ui/utlui.po
> Атауы

Issue in Kazakh language fixed.
Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] object bars

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Milos Sramek  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> does anybody know what kind of bars these are? Can one see them somewhere?
> Do they have something to do with the toolbars in the view > toolbars menu?
>
> sw/source/ui/shells.po:
> Text Object Bar/Images
> Draw Object Bar
> Text Object Bar
> Numbering Object Bar
>
> and similar in sw/source/ui/web.po:
> Text Object Bar/Web
> Frame Object Bar/Web*
> *
> and others...
>
> thanks
>
> Milos
>
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Hello,

I would like to know this as well,

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How to make own (up-to-date) language packages

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On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Mateusz Zasuwik  wrote:
> Hey
>
> I would like to apply the latest translations from Pootle on my LO
> installation. How can I do (Debian) packages for 4.2 RC1?
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Hello,

I was also interested in this question, but did not found a way to do it
other that rebuilding the whole LibreOffice package (in Fedora).
Yes, it takes a looong time

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] translations from a different language - only offline-translators affected?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> Is it right that so far only those teams, who are using
> offline-translation (i.e. those who update po files from local
> computer to pootle server) have been affected by the "translations
> from other language" problem?
>
> Or did projects using only pootle experience this?
>
> In chatting with one of the pootle devs on irc, the suspected cause is
> some bug in the threading/multiprocessing that is done in the
> webserver's process.
> In other words: Updating from the commandline should be safe.
>
> ciao
> Christian
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Hi,

For Kazakh language I mostly use Pootle, but sometimes I do upload
single PO files or entire zipped directory

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates updated for 4.2.0 (string freeze)

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> as already mentioned in the other thread, this week marks English
> string and UI freeze for 4.2.0, thus I updated the templates on pootle
> (but did only update German and Afrikaans libo_ui projects to test the
> process re obsolete/removed files)
>
> So please update against templates soon
>
> As previously it was requested to offer an idea what changed between
> the two updates, here's a diff that shows the differences.
>
> removed those obsolete files:
> libo_ui/templates/android/sdremote/res/values.pot
> libo_ui/templates/sdext/source/minimizer.pot
> libo_ui/templates/sdext/source/minimizer/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office.pot
> libo_ui/templates/sdext/source/minimizer/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/extension.pot
> libo_ui/templates/sw/qa/tiledrendering.pot
>
> Added files:
> libo_ui/templates/dictionaries/lo_LA.pot
>
> Diffs (plain text: just omit the .html) compared to the update at end
> of November:
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/libo_ui.diff.html
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/libo_help.diff.html
>
> diffstat (also contains metadata-changes, but gives an idea about the
> distribution of the changes over the files)
>
> libo_help/templates/scalc/01.pot   |  14 
> +-
> libo_help/templates/shared/00.pot  |  43 
> ++-
> libo_help/templates/simpress/01.pot|  14 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/chart2/source/controller/dialogs.pot |  39 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/chart2/uiconfig/ui.pot   |  22 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/cui/source/options.pot   |  12 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/cui/uiconfig/ui.pot
> | 130 +++
> libo_ui/templates/dbaccess/source/core/resource.pot|   6 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/filter/source/config/fragments/filters.pot   |  38 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/filter/source/config/fragments/types.pot |  30 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/formula/source/core/resource.pot
> |  92 -
> libo_ui/templates/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI.pot |   6 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/sc/source/ui/StatisticsDialogs.pot
> | 172 -
> libo_ui/templates/sc/source/ui/src.pot
> | 818 
> libo_ui/templates/sc/uiconfig/scalc/ui.pot
> | 174 +++--
> libo_ui/templates/scaddins/source/pricing.pot  |  10 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/scp2/source/ooo.pot  |  20 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/sd/source/ui/dlg.pot |  51 
> +--
> libo_ui/templates/sd/uiconfig/simpress/ui.pot  |  52 
> ++-
> libo_ui/templates/sfx2/source/control.pot  |  17 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/sfx2/uiconfig/ui.pot |  50 
> ++-
> libo_ui/templates/starmath/source.pot  |  11 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/starmath/uiconfig/smath/ui.pot   |   6 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/svtools/source/misc.pot  |  12 
> +-
> libo_ui/templates/sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui.pot   |  52 
> +--
>  25 files changed, 1389 insertions(+), 502 deletions(-)
>
> ciao
> Christian
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Hello, Christian, and thanks for update,

However when I am trying to update Kazakh language, it says
"Error while updating translation project against latest templates."

You can check by yourself, if required.

Thanks again

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings updated for 4.2 UI

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> HI *,
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>  wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>>  wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Sérgio Marques  
>>> wrote:
>>>> 2013/12/10 Andras Timar 
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Sérgio Marques 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > The template strings for 4.2 UI were updated.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You can "Update against templates" to get them.
>>>>> >
>>>>> Who did that? Why do I see "Templates 0 0 2013-08-05 13:17 (timar)"?
>>>>> -- That's me from August. Why are there bogus directories in Templates
>>>>> project?
>
> The date in web UI is bogus, as the date doesn't reflect the change
> that was done on the filesystem.
>
>>> Does that mean that updates to templates will be reverted?
>
> No, templates have not changed drastically, although somebody did
> upload updated version on Dec 08.
>
> But differences to the ones I uploaded end of Novermber are minimal,
> mostly fixing typos, like two CAps in words, or duuplicated letters
> removed. A few have explicit mnemonics set.
>
> The only noteworthy changes are in sc/source/ui/StatisticsDialogs.pot
> and sc/source/ui/src.pot
>
> That is about adding support for a couple of Excel functions
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6748/
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6701/
>
>>> I think I have a exported zip for Kazakh from yesterday, will restore it 
>>> then
>>
>> Something is definitely wrong, I have Greek translations (marked fuzzy)
>> in Kazakh section. For example, they appear when I search for
>> "Indicates which database field" text string.
>
> This is strange, and don't have an explanation for that yet.
>
> ciao
> Christian

I have restored Kazakh translations from backup,

Thank you for confirmation

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings updated for 4.2 UI

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
 wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Sérgio Marques  wrote:
>> Hi Andras,
>>
>> I don´t know who have done it.
>>
>> Yesterday I´ve run it and got new strings. That´s why I post the message.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/10 Andras Timar 
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Sérgio Marques 
>>> wrote:
>>> > The template strings for 4.2 UI were updated.
>>> >
>>> > You can "Update against templates" to get them.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Who did that? Why do I see "Templates 0 0 2013-08-05 13:17 (timar)"?
>>> -- That's me from August. Why are there bogus directories in Templates
>>> project?
>
> Does that mean that updates to templates will be reverted?
>
> I think I have a exported zip for Kazakh from yesterday, will restore it then
>
> Thanks

Something is definitely wrong, I have Greek translations (marked fuzzy)
in Kazakh section. For example, they appear when I search for
"Indicates which database field" text string.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings updated for 4.2 UI

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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Sérgio Marques  wrote:
> Hi Andras,
>
> I don´t know who have done it.
>
> Yesterday I´ve run it and got new strings. That´s why I post the message.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> 2013/12/10 Andras Timar 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Sérgio Marques 
>> wrote:
>> > The template strings for 4.2 UI were updated.
>> >
>> > You can "Update against templates" to get them.
>> >
>>
>> Who did that? Why do I see "Templates 0 0 2013-08-05 13:17 (timar)"?
>> -- That's me from August. Why are there bogus directories in Templates
>> project?

Does that mean that updates to templates will be reverted?

I think I have a exported zip for Kazakh from yesterday, will restore it then

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Strings updated for 4.2 UI

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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Sérgio Marques  wrote:
> The template strings for 4.2 UI were updated.
>
> You can "Update against templates" to get them.
>
> Regards
>
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Hi,
Thanks for notifying.

BTW, Kazakh language was at 77% and now it at 69%. Very sad.
This is the second time percentage is dropping.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Duplicated strings in Pootle

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Good day,

I am working on Kazakh translation on Pootle,
and I see that there are so many duplicated strings there.

I understand that often they are from different modules, so
they have to present in each module. I am curious
whether it is planned to do something with these
duplicated strings. E.g. combine them in one place.

For example, current 4.2 tree has 29491 messages,
but only 19308 messages are unique.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How many plural forms does Kazakh language have?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> I notice while building the impress remote for android with
> translations[1], that the number of plural forms that is set in pootle
> differs from what CLDR knows...
>
> http://unicode.org/repos/cldr-tmp/trunk/diff/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html#kk
>
> lists it has two forms, One for singular, and another one for the rest.
>
> While pootle lists it as having just one single form like Turkish or Japanese.
>
> So what is correct?
>
> ciao
> Christian
>
> [1] android's plural handling differs from gettext/po file features,
> so the tool that is used to convert the po files to strings.xml needs
> to do some mapping - but it always assumes CLDR's data, so when
> processing kk.po it breaks.
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Hi,

Kazakh language has one single form (nplurals=1; plural=0;), so Pootle's
version is correct.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translation of Impress Remote mobile app

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Mihovil Stanic
 wrote:
> What's the difference between "libo_ui / android" folder and "android"
> project?
> Isn't that same app?

Good day,
As I understand, the android folder will be moved out of libo_ui project.

Another question is that Android phone vendors provide localized
Android versions for some markets, while stock Android may lack
those locales. For example, here in Kazakhstan, most of Android phones
have Kazakh locale available.

Just for information,

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: L10n compatibility with Apache OO

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Thanks for explanation,

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Alex Thurgood  wrote:
> Le 15/11/2013 02:53, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
>
>>
>> I am the main translator of LibreOffice to Kazakh language.
>>
>> I also want to import my work (Kazakh translation) to Apache OO (in the
>> future).
>>
>> Can I just take and upload it there? What about license,
>> I mean I have already contributed my work to LO, and it is
>> under LGPLv3 and MPL now. Is it compatible with Apache OO?
>
>
>
> Translators' copyright is a derivative or adaptation right, i.e. although it
> benefits from copyright under most legal systems, it still depends on the
> original right, and therefore licence of the original work. What this means
> is that a translator can not necessarily relicence his/her work in a way
> that deviates from the licence of the original work.
>
> Additionally, there is the fact that you are only the "main" translator,
> which implies that others have participated in the work.

I said 'main' because I convinced several people to help me, but their share
is around 280 messages in total. I can surely ask for their permissions.

> Where a work (here the translation) can be deemed to be collective, i.e. the
> individual elements can not be dissociated from the whole, then the rights
> holder can effect the licence change on behalf of the contributors. However,
> the LO project doesn't have a single rights holder, unlike the Apache
> Foundation, which is why each contributor is asked to release their
> contribution under an individual licence statement.
>
> What this means for the translation is that each contributor would have to
> agree to the change in licence if you wanted to submit the whole work to the
> Apache Foundation. The alternative is to relicence only those parts of the
> translation for which you were the author, although perhaps a Kazakh
> translation already partly existed within OOo and this got carried over in
> the grant to the Apache Foundation, in which case you could merge your own
> translations into it ? You would have to ask on the AOO lists to find out.
>
> Alex

Thanks, I will ask in the AOO lists.

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[libreoffice-l10n] L10n compatibility with Apache OO

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Good morning,

I am the main translator of LibreOffice to Kazakh language.

I also want to import my work (Kazakh translation) to Apache OO (in the future).

Can I just take and upload it there? What about license,
I mean I have already contributed my work to LO, and it is
under LGPLv3 and MPL now. Is it compatible with Apache OO?

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Filtering strings on Pootle by submitter

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Finally I made it using custom tools,
the Final percentage of Kazakh l10n of LibreOffice 4.1.x dropped to 51%,
rest 49% are fuzzy currently.

As I explained earlier, Kazakh l10n consisted of old translation and
my translation,
and old one was in bad shape. I have decided to mark it all as fuzzy
and check it
all over again.

This is a lot of work, of course, but, at least I will be sure for quality of
Kazakh localization.

Thanks for reading.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Filtering strings on Pootle by submitter

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Rimas Kudelis  wrote:
>
> 2013.10.25 17:17, Dwayne Bailey wrote:
> > There isn't a quick way on the current LO server I'm afraid. The
> > version of Pootle that we're coding on now won't quite do what you
> > suggested but would allow a query like the following:
> > http://local-tm.testing.locamotion.org/ar/pootle/translate/#filter=user-submissions&user=khaled
> > Which allows you to see all of user khaled's submissions. It isn't
> > quite the same as your 'not mine' requirement, but is closer then we
> > are now. So I'm not sure if you can wait for an updated Pootle to do
> > such a review or if you want to do it now. Waiting will mean you
> > should have something like this is 2-3 months. Doing it now would mean
> > manually stepping through all the strings.
>
> Dwayne, while you guys are at it, can you also make it work with
> suggestions? Say I want to see all suggestions made by a certain user.
> That would be nice to have as well.
>
> I can file a feature request on bugzilla if needed. :)
>
> Rimas
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Hello,

Then I vote for "Hide my submissions" or "Show all but my submissions" option.

Sorry for off-topic.

Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Filtering strings on Pootle by submitter

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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Dwayne Bailey wrote:

>
>
> There isn't a quick way on the current LO server I'm afraid.
>
> The version of Pootle that we're coding on now won't quite do what you
> suggested but would allow a query like the following:
>
>
> http://local-tm.testing.locamotion.org/ar/pootle/translate/#filter=user-submissions&user=khaled
>
> Which allows you to see all of user khaled's submissions.  It isn't quite
> the same as your 'not mine' requirement, but is closer then we are now.
>
> So I'm not sure if you can wait for an updated Pootle to do such a review
> or if you want to do it now.  Waiting will mean you should have something
> like this is 2-3 months.  Doing it now would mean manually stepping through
> all the strings.
>
> --
> Dwayne
>
> *Translate*
> +27 12 460 1095 (work)
>

Hello,

Yes, also mozilla.locamotion.org has this 2.5.1-alpha1 version of Pootle.

It looks very solid, even being alpha.

I understand that the feature I am asking about is not quite common.

Also, the remaining 50% of old Kazakh l10n of LibreOffice was imported into
Pootle,
and it does not have any submitter. So, filtering by submitter won't help
much.
I guess I will continue the current workflow.

Thanks for your answers,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Filtering strings on Pootle by submitter

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Sophie  wrote:

> Hi Baurzhan,
> Le 24/10/2013 10:46, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is it possible to filter strings in Pootle by submitter? I see that I can
> > choose
> > "my submissions" filter, but I am interested to see all but my
> submissions.
> >
> It seems that's not possible, you can filter all sugestions or yours,
> but not ones of a submitter.
>
> Kind regards
> Sophie
>

Hello,

The reason I am asking is that current situation in Kazakh l10n of
LibreOffice 4.1 is that
50% is old l10n, and 50% is done by me. Unfortunately, the quality of that
old 50% is below the
appropriate level.

Now I have to check that old 50% and I need to distinct it somehow.

I am wondering whether Pootle admins able to mark all strings not
translated by me
as fuzzy. Or is there any other way to solve this?

Thanks,

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[libreoffice-l10n] Filtering strings on Pootle by submitter

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

Is it possible to filter strings in Pootle by submitter? I see that I can
choose
"my submissions" filter, but I am interested to see all but my submissions.


Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization testing

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Good day,

I have tried to build Ukrainian language pack also during the LibreOffice build,
but, unfortunately, it fails with the next message

/usr/bin/cp: cannot stat '/builddir/build/BUILD/libreoffice-4.0.3.3/workdir/
unxlngx6.pro/UILocalizeTarget/desktop/uiconfig/ui/extensionmanager/uk.ui':
No such file or directory


I am certainly not an expert in this field do I don't know how to fix it.

Regards,

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Коростіль Данило
 wrote:
> Thanks anyway!
>
> Hope there are some more people who do it and will share their experience.
> It's very exciting to compile LO for every minor changes.
>
>> Fedora 18, 64-bit. I took build files from
>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/libreoffice.git/
>> and adapted by replacing translation files for my language with
>> the fresh version. I can share the build script, but it is too simple.
>> I have disabled the builds for now though, because I am not currently
>> actively
>> translating LibreOffice.
>>
>> PS: I also have tried to build LibreOffice for openSUSE using the Build
>> Studio
>> (at build.opensuse.org) but it takes like eternity to complete the build
>> there.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Коростіль Данило
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, thanks for the response!
>>>
>>> What the Linux distribution do you use?
>>>
 Hi, you mean, you want to test translations right away?

 I have asked similar question back in January, but what I ended up with,
 is that I've setup a nightly builds for the Linux distribution I use.

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>
> Hi folks,
>
> Is it a way to test localization from pootle files? Or do you test only
> release candidate versions?
>
> Instruction is needed for linux, but for windows OSes would be fine as
> well.
>
> Sorry if it's the silly question.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization testing

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> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Krunoslav Šebetić  
> wrote:
>
> I wonder if it's posible to coplile LO from source and copile translation
> trought Poedit or Vitaal to .mo files. Is it posible to do it that way?
>
> Kruno

I don't think LibreOffice uses PO/MO files yet.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization testing

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Fedora 18, 64-bit. I took build files from
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/libreoffice.git/
and adapted by replacing translation files for my language with
the fresh version. I can share the build script, but it is too simple.
I have disabled the builds for now though, because I am not currently actively
translating LibreOffice.

PS: I also have tried to build LibreOffice for openSUSE using the Build Studio
(at build.opensuse.org) but it takes like eternity to complete the build there.

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Коростіль Данило
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> Hi, thanks for the response!
>
> What the Linux distribution do you use?
>
>> Hi, you mean, you want to test translations right away?
>>
>> I have asked similar question back in January, but what I ended up with,
>> is that I've setup a nightly builds for the Linux distribution I use.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Коростіль Данило
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Is it a way to test localization from pootle files? Or do you test only
>>> release candidate versions?
>>>
>>> Instruction is needed for linux, but for windows OSes would be fine as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Sorry if it's the silly question.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization testing

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Hi, you mean, you want to test translations right away?

I have asked similar question back in January, but what I ended up with,
is that I've setup a nightly builds for the Linux distribution I use.

On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Коростіль Данило
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> Hi folks,
>
> Is it a way to test localization from pootle files? Or do you test only
> release candidate versions?
>
> Instruction is needed for linux, but for windows OSes would be fine as well.
>
> Sorry if it's the silly question.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Requesting the website translation for Kazakh language

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Thank you very much!

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Rimas Kudelis  wrote:
> 2013.03.13 06:15, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov rašė:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Is this the correct place to request addition of Kazakh language to
>> "Website" translation resource?
>> If you check here
>> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/
>>
>> there is not Kazakh language there yet,
>> I'd like to fix it,
>
>
> Done.
> Bare in mind though that this will only let you localize some parts of the
> CMS we're using. To have a functional kk.libreoffice.org website, you'll
> have to follow the instructions found on
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT and prepare some content.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rimas
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[libreoffice-l10n] Requesting the website translation for Kazakh language

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

Is this the correct place to request addition of Kazakh language to
"Website" translation resource?
If you check here
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/

there is not Kazakh language there yet,
I'd like to fix it,

Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Do translations from Pootle go to nighly builds?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Yeah,
Actually a friend of mine provided a VPS to me,
I did like 20 builds until I succeeded.

In case if someone is interested, I can share RPMs for Fedora 18 64-bit;)

Cheers,

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Yury Tarasievich
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> Well, yes, kinda, provided you can spare the cycles.
> I'm somewhat surprised, though, that nobody else replied to that.
>
> Yury
>
>
> On 02/25/2013 08:31 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I kinda solved this issue by making a nightly builds of LO 4.0,
>> at each build I pull zip file for my language from pootle with latest
>> translations,
>> and replace old translations.
>>
>> Build takes ~8 Hours on my hardware
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Do translations from Pootle go to nighly builds?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

I kinda solved this issue by making a nightly builds of LO 4.0,
at each build I pull zip file for my language from pootle with latest
translations,
and replace old translations.

Build takes ~8 Hours on my hardware

Cheers,

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Yury Tarasievich
 wrote:
> Building OpenOffice these days isn't SO difficult. Of course, you'd have to
> be prepared to spend some GBs and some bandwidth and some time building.
> Several gigs of storage, about 1 gig of downloads, several hours on a fairly
> modern desktop.
>
> Not a negligible effort, yes. I also wouldn't mind seeing the result of a
> quick fix, well, quickly.
>
> So I'll reformulate Baurzhan's question.
>
> Assuming one has:
> 1) binary build versioned A.B.C installed,
> 2) the POT set known to be used to compile the translation for the A.B.C,
>
> could one proceed like following, assuring the IDs remains fixed:
> 1) pull the strings' IDs from .res files of the installation,
> 2) (re)build the updated .res files from the updated POT/PO set?
>
> It's possible to do such thing with binary editor, so why not with LibO
> standard/SDK/... toolset?
>
> Yury
>
>
>
> On 02/05/2013 07:09 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Assuming that I have a full git copy of libreoffice's core repository,
>> (and a .zip snapshot of translations repo)
>> can I build a langpack for my language only?
>> Is it necessary to build the whole LibreOffice?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Translations were updated for LibreOffice 4.0.0 beta2, rc1, rc2. Next
>>> comes rc3, then 4.0.1 rc1, rc2 and so on. Basically you get updated
>>> language pack in every second week. If you need it more frequently,
>>> you can build LibreOffice yourself.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andras
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dashamir Hoxha 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that the important question is how to test the translations.
>>>> I asked this question more than a year ago and there was no answer.
>>>> So, we just have to bear with this and try to do our best for the rest.
>>>>
>>>> Dashamir
>>>>
>>>> Lior Kaplan  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They go manually into the source control and from there to the builds.
>>>>> Andras does the commit before official builds (beta, RC), not on a
>>>>> daily
>>>>> basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kaplan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <
>>>>> baurthefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am working on Kazakh localization of LibreOffice, on official Pootle
>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I was wondering how to test these translations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have installed nightly build of LO. But it seems like translations
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not go
>>>>>> to nightly builds of localization packs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Do translations from Pootle go to nighly builds?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

Assuming that I have a full git copy of libreoffice's core repository,
(and a .zip snapshot of translations repo)
can I build a langpack for my language only?
Is it necessary to build the whole LibreOffice?

Regards.

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Translations were updated for LibreOffice 4.0.0 beta2, rc1, rc2. Next
> comes rc3, then 4.0.1 rc1, rc2 and so on. Basically you get updated
> language pack in every second week. If you need it more frequently,
> you can build LibreOffice yourself.
>
> Best regards,
> Andras
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Dashamir Hoxha  wrote:
>> I think that the important question is how to test the translations.
>> I asked this question more than a year ago and there was no answer.
>> So, we just have to bear with this and try to do our best for the rest.
>>
>> Dashamir
>>
>> Lior Kaplan  wrote:
>>
>>>They go manually into the source control and from there to the builds.
>>>Andras does the commit before official builds (beta, RC), not on a daily
>>>basis.
>>>
>>>Kaplan
>>>
>>>On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <
>>>baurthefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am working on Kazakh localization of LibreOffice, on official Pootle
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>>> And I was wondering how to test these translations?
>>>>
>>>> I have installed nightly build of LO. But it seems like translations do
>>>> not go
>>>> to nightly builds of localization packs.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Do translations from Pootle go to nighly builds?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

I agree

Are the spec files of daily RPM builds available somewhere?
I suppose I could build language pack for myself.
It would be a great help for localization process.

Thanks

On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Dashamir Hoxha  wrote:
> I think that the important question is how to test the translations.
> I asked this question more than a year ago and there was no answer.
> So, we just have to bear with this and try to do our best for the rest.
>
> Dashamir
>
> Lior Kaplan  wrote:
>
>>They go manually into the source control and from there to the builds.
>>Andras does the commit before official builds (beta, RC), not on a daily
>>basis.
>>
>>Kaplan
>>
>>On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov <
>>baurthefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am working on Kazakh localization of LibreOffice, on official Pootle
>>> server.
>>>
>>> And I was wondering how to test these translations?
>>>
>>> I have installed nightly build of LO. But it seems like translations do
>>> not go
>>> to nightly builds of localization packs.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
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[libreoffice-l10n] Do translations from Pootle go to nighly builds?

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

I am working on Kazakh localization of LibreOffice, on official Pootle server.

And I was wondering how to test these translations?

I have installed nightly build of LO. But it seems like translations do not go
to nightly builds of localization packs.

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Language name is incorrect in LO

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

I am afraid it is still listed as Kazak in

shell/source/win32/shlxthandler/util/utilities.cxx

Could you please take a look?

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
 wrote:
> Thank you very much!
>
> I've closed the bug report as FIXED.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>>  wrote:
>>> However, in LO, the language is called 'Kazak', which is incorrect,
>>> and should be
>>> changed to 'Kazakh'.
>>>
>>> When I search it in translations, I can see that it is located in
>>> svtools/source/misc.po
>>>
>>> Should I file bugreport about that?
>>
>> I've just fixed it, but the earliest target is 4.0.1, because it
>> breaks the string freeze.
>> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/1876/
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Language name is incorrect in LO

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Thank you very much!

I've closed the bug report as FIXED.

Cheers

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov
>  wrote:
>> However, in LO, the language is called 'Kazak', which is incorrect,
>> and should be
>> changed to 'Kazakh'.
>>
>> When I search it in translations, I can see that it is located in
>> svtools/source/misc.po
>>
>> Should I file bugreport about that?
>
> I've just fixed it, but the earliest target is 4.0.1, because it
> breaks the string freeze.
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/1876/
>
> Best regards,
> Andras

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[libreoffice-l10n] Language name is incorrect in LO

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello,

I am using nightly builds of LibreOffice 4.0. I am testing Kazakh
language translations.

However, in LO, the language is called 'Kazak', which is incorrect,
and should be
changed to 'Kazakh'.

When I search it in translations, I can see that it is located in
svtools/source/misc.po

Should I file bugreport about that?

Regards

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kazakh translation team

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Thank you!

I participated in Mozilla Firefox translation into Kazakh language,
so I am aware of this kind of job.

What I am planning is to put some effort to find new translators.

Cheers,

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
> 2012/3/1 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov :
>> My username is sotrud_nik
>
> OK, I gave you admin rights. Please work on 3.5.x UI, it is too late for 
> 3.4.x.
>
> Thanks,
> Andras
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kazakh translation team

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

My username is sotrud_nik

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:
> Hi Baurzhan!
>
> 2012/3/1 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov :
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I couldn't find the Kazakh team from
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams,
>> so there is no coordinator for it currently, right? Could I be the one?
>>
>
> Of course, you can! Welcome! :) Please edit wiki page and your details.
>
>> I also need permissions for Kazakh team on
>> http://translations.documentfoundation.org
>>
>
> Have you registered? What is your user name?
>
> Thanks,
> Andras
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[libreoffice-l10n] Kazakh translation team

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hello all!

I couldn't find the Kazakh team from
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams,
so there is no coordinator for it currently, right? Could I be the one?

I also need permissions for Kazakh team on
http://translations.documentfoundation.org

Thanks.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Kazakh translation

[Baurzhan Muftakhidinov]

Hi all

There was Kazakh translation for OpenOffice 2.3 prior to 3.0
Unfortunately, it wasn't maintained.

There is no Kazakh PO file in main git branch
(http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/build/tree/po),
but there is Kazakh Language Pack in downloads for LibreOffice 3.3beta3.

http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/rpm/x86/

So, is there Kazakh PO file, which I can pick up and work on it?

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