Re: [lace] Lace decline?
In an email dated Tue, 30 Sep 2003 8:50:01 pm GMT, Helen Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snipped One thing I do notice, is that in the late 80's and early 90's, when I supported myself, and lived at home, I had money to burn and the interest rates were phenomenal :-) ), and I would easily spend over $100 a month at lace day on bobbins, mainly, but also on books (this is in Victoria, Oz). As the interest rates have plummeted, and the economy has contracted in the US where I now live), I don't have that same amount of disposable cash - that means that I just don't buy bobbins right now. I only get them sent to me as gifts, or if there's a very special commemorative one I want, then I work out a deal with Mum (Ilove you tons Mum :-) ) I think economics and life style have a big impact on one's free time, and how it can be spent and financed. snipped Cheers, Helen, Aussie living in Denver. -- Helen and the Spiders When I took up lace making about 13 - 14 years ago (I must work out when sometime) I would think nothing of spending £60 pounds sterling on beads for spangling - OK there were two incomes then but I earn now what was the total joint income and my outgoings are lower, beads and bobbins are realitively the same price (which probably explains why some suppliers have gone out of business) but I spend less. I've been racking my brains to think why. Partly its because after this lenght of time I have pillows, bobbins, tools (although I lost my pricker [sob]) but that never stopped me before. When I went to the NEC last year I took £200 with me and spent the lot - well, I hadn't been to a lace fair in 10 years but what did I buy? - 2 bobbin holders (you know, zip round wallets), - 20 pairs of bobbins only 4 of which were painted, the rest were just very well turned wood and averaged about £3.50 a pair. - A horseshoe thing to lift my threads off the pillow from the dutch people - Some white metal bookmark toppers (from the dutch people again) - £1's worth of lace stamps for dad And most of my money - I bought japanese braiding equipment from Jaqui Carey. That's where most of it went. So I hold my hand up and say that I'm as bad as everyone else. My only excuse was that I could never have had the braiding equipment sent through the post so had to buy it in person because of the worry of getting it broken and it is lace making really because you use thread and bobbins (who am I kidding apart from myself here!!! grin) Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?
In an email dated Tue, 30 Sep 2003 9:57:57 pm GMT, Janice Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heather wrote: snipped Having found lacemaking in the last nine years (bought a Dryad kit in 1994 by mail order), finding IOLI and local lace groups, Arachne and conventions, I was of the opinion that lacemaking was growing, at least here in the states. snipped Janice -- I think that the support for lace making is growing - especially the number of people on Arachne - when I first got on the internet it was back in 1996 and there were very few people who weren't just geeks. With access to the internet growing (just look at the number of ebay users and their diversity) we are finding it easier to keep in touch and personally feel that this is going to be the key to the initial survival of lacemaking - accessibility Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:[lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie
On second thought, after seeing the pictures on the Kleinhout site, I think it might be possible to use a rigid, satin-covered headband. Avital mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Men making lace :-)
Scoff not! Iain makes lace when we are on holiday which is 7 weeks a year. He thinks it helped him re design our bobbins and to understand more when talking to the ladies in our business. :-) KEEP LACING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] backpack pillow
On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 18:49 US/Eastern, Margot Walker wrote: A supplier at last year's OIDFA Congress had a pillow that was part of a backpack. It was really neat and compact. I don't remember who the supplier was - I think Finnish or Danish. Does any one else remember? Finnish. I bought one at the German BL Congress this April. Strolled around these pillows again and again, countimg my bucks again and again (but they refused to become more), finally I couldn't resist. The pillow itself has the classical shape of danish pillows for yardage (have a look on Bjarne's site, e.g.), a half circle here the bobbins rest, a roller in the back part for the lace. Covered with velvet, neatly worked, it comes with 30 finish birch bobbins (continental) and a bag in matching colour to the velvet. The bag is not really a backpack. It has a strip for hand carrying and one long enough for over the shoulder and has an additional small compartment with zipper for yarn, scissor etc. It's not heavy, not large, so it's easy to take it with you. Tamara wrote: But whether it's going to make much difference in getting lacemaking to be the current fashion in on the go crafts, I'm not so sure... In the long run, bobbin lacemaking just isn't really portable, in more ways than one. Of course, Tamara, BL will never be a craft for z doskoku , like the tatting in the pocket is. (one of my pocket poems:Another hour at the station / hear curses on the Deutsche Bahn * / but with my tatting in the pocket/ even waiting time is fun.) In German: auf dem Sprung, no 1:1-translation either, (on a jump) but the meaning is, maybe similar to z doskoku, that one is prepared to jump on to the next duty, maybe just waiting for the signal to be heared. I like my finnish travel pillow, but would not unpack my carefully secured bobbins for less than half an hour of lacemaking. For an hours or so, it's great (waiting for children at different places, e.g., waiting at a doctor's,...). And I take it on a holyday trip, because space is very limited in my small compact car. And: it's beautiful. A raw beginner isn't likely to use a travel pillow -- they need larger bobbins to accomodate the thicker threads they start with. An advanced lacemaker is going to use one only as the last resort -- there's not a whole lot of appeal to most lace patterns which can be made with 16prs of bobbins (tops), especially if it's yardage (most travel pillows are geared for that, since there's less need for paraphernalia associated with piece laces). I had no problems with a 30-pair tulle (yardage), and right now it carries an old flemish yardage from LOKK's de linnenkast. Travelling without BL would be much worse... needle lace, knitted lace, crochet lace and tatted lace beat BL out for convenience every time. right. BL is no fast food craft. will never be. bye for now, from a sunny autumn day, Eva in Haltern, Germany - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: can anybody help
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 03:15 AM, Julia wrote: As part of my degree I have to write a 12,000 word dissertation, related to marketing, on a subject of my choice. snip Over the past 11 years I have witnessed a growth not only in the number of lace-makers around, but also the number of suppliers. I have also been reading 'Lace' magazine published by the Lace Guild, whose aims include the promotion of lace-making. Hence I thought it would be interesting to investigate the growing importance of branding to suppliers, and to investigate how marketing techniques can be applied to the effective promotion of lace-making as a hobby. I have searched the Internet and read copies of 'Lace' magazine dating back to the year dot, however I am still having trouble finding enough relevant information. I specifically need figures, such as the first lace group was formed in... the numer of suppliers has doubled over the past ? years... There are now ?? more lace groups than ten years ago... etc. Julia In my experience lacemaking, in England, has passed it's peak and there are less suppliers around than there were ten years ago. The fall in Lace Guild membership numbers; the lower numbers of people attending lace Days, the decline in numbers of groups and the difficulty in finding new lacemaking students for the remaining lacemaking classes all bear this out. I'm pleased that I have just one beginner student this term, and delighted to hear of a Young Lacemaker like yourself who has continued to make lace into aduldhood. Having said that it's not all doom and gloom although the market has changed. Whilst lacemaking in UK and western Europe generally seems to declining; in USA and Australia it seems to be on the increase and many of the traders in those countries still get a lot of their supplies from UK. The biggest change in recent years has been the enormous growth of the internet. It's as easy now to write to someone across the pond or downunder as it is to write to the next town. My own little book about lace threads sells as well in USA as it does in UK - and the publicity generated through Arachne has been greater than any ads in lace magazines. It's also true that without support from lacemakers all around the world who have been generous enough to send me little bits of thread I couldn't have gathered all the information included in the book together. Any interesting websites? Suppliers out there willing to help? Other magazines, maybe for suppliers in the industry, that may be of use? By far the lacemaking website is Lori's http://www.lacefairy.com/ and also the Lace Guild's http://www.laceguild.org My own website includes links to most of the major threads manufacturers http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/Threads/manufacturers.html Hope that helps Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ Supporting the [EMAIL PROTECTED] campaign - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Chats on Old Lace and Needlework by Lowes
Sadly, this is the book which was put together so badly that it couldn't be scanned. The problem is in the binding which causes a deep ripple to appear in every page. I tried all sorts of tricks to smooth it out, but it still wouldn't come up with a clear scan. This is in every copy of the book I have seen. If anyone has a copy which doesn't have the ripple, I would love to borrow it to scan for the Professor's site. Agnes offered it to me, but hers is like the others. Tess (tess1929) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Questions about embroidery-stiches
Dear lacefriends, Please appologize my questions which have nothing to do with bobbinlace but I couldn't find the english words and I must prepare my lace-sewing-class for a group of people who speak better english than german. How do you call in english 1.) Stich is it prick or stitch or another word 2.) what do you call Nonnenstich - nun-? 3.) Festonstich, thats nearly the same Stich as helmstich 4.) triangel- or turkich-stitch. For not bother the others you could answer me privately. Thanks a lot Ilske from Hamburg in Germany - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Albanian textiles
Hello, I was just wondering if anyone out there knows if any good studies of Albanian textiles have been published and are readily avalable. I would be able to find assistance if such a publication is only availible, but would prefer if someone could suggest something in English, Italian, French or German. I know this is not the main focus of the list and would appreciate it if people could reply privately so as not to produce excess mail for the others. Many thanks, Angharad __ Tiscali ADSL e' SENZA CANONE, paghi solo quello che consumi! Abbonati subito, Gratis per te un anno di Supermail e tanti servizi in piu'! http://point.tiscali.it/adsl/index.shtml - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Albanian textiles - correction
-- Messaggio Originale -- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 14:58:47 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] Albanian textiles To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I was just wondering if anyone out there knows if any good studies of Albanian textiles have been published and are readily avalable. I would be able to find assistance if such a publication is only availible in Albanian, but would prefer if someone cou d suggest something in English, Italian, French or German. I know this is not the main focus of the list and would appreciate it if people could reply privately so as not to produce excess mail for the others. Many thanks, Angharad _ Tiscali ADSL e' SENZA CANONE, paghi solo quello che consumi! Abbonati subito, Gratis per te un anno di Supermail e tanti servizi in piu'! http://point.tiscali.it/adsl/index.shtml - To unsubscr be send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Tiscali ADSL e' SENZA CANONE, paghi solo quello che consumi! Abbonati subito, Gratis per te un anno di Supermail e tanti servizi in piu'! http://point.tiscali.it/adsl/index.shtml - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Is lace declining?
Dear all I will emerge from lurkdom briefly to report that at my two classes this term I have four completely new beginners and two returners, and this I should say is about average for the start of a new year. I usually tell people that Lacemaking is increasingly popular; modern media is certainly spreading it more widely. Regardless of the average age of lacemakers (respect all round) we are still contributing to a spread of the knowledge; most new lacemakers in my classes are at least 10 years younger than those already in the class!! Whilst I am currently studying for my City and Guilds certificate, I have been teaching for about six years without that piece of paper. If you're prepared to share your skill, do so, especially if there's no-one else around prepared to do it. I am the first to acknowledge my limitations, and recommend other teachers if a student wants to progress further. Unfortunately, most people I know are not prepared to travel far beyond their locality, and my classes are the only ones I know of in my area. By the way, my dd has updated my web-site, so if you would like to view some of my work, and that of my classes please try http://homepages.tesco.net/~rjbrown Don't worry, keep lacing! Rosemary Brown West Sussex - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: rippled pages
Hi Arachnes: My email program seems to have taken a dislike to AOL email addresses, and is refusing to reply directly to either Tess or Devon, but as this is of some general interest I'll send it to the list. After Devon reminded me that there are other ways to buy used books than on ebay (thanks, Devon ;-) I found a copy of 'Chats on Old Lace and Needlework' here in Canada that was only $25 US (the ebay auction ended at $57 US!) so I bought it. The bookseller says it is a first Canadian edition. If he is right, and this is not the original edition, it would have been made in a different print run, probably by different printers. Perhaps this one is printed correctly and the pages are flat! Well, we'll see. I should have it in my hot little hands in a couple of weeks. Adele - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] bookfinder/rejection of AOL addresses
After Devon reminded me that there are other ways to buy used books than on ebay (thanks, Devon ;-) I found a copy of 'Chats on Old Lace and Needlework' here in Canada that was only $25 US (the ebay auction ended at $57 US!) so I bought it. I think the ebay bidding often stops right at the price that you can get things on Bookfinder. My approach is go right to Bookfinder and eliminate the suspense. I am disturbed that your e-mail provider isn't doing AOL right now. Are others having this problem? I am expecting some e-mails that haven't arrived and wondering if there is a systemic problem. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Bookfinder/rejection of AOL addresses
Devon wrote: I think the ebay bidding often stops right at the price that you can get things on Bookfinder. My approach is go right to Bookfinder and eliminate the suspense. Well, I use the Advanced Book Exchange ( http://www.abebooks.com ) because I think it has more books (14 copies of Chats ... yesterday, versus 2 on Bookfinder) and more Canadian Commonwealth booksellers on it, but today I noticed something interesting. It seems to me that yesterday these books were priced at about $50 US on average but today they're up around $75 US. Either some of the booksellers saw the price on Ebay and increased theirs accordingly, or else the buying public saw the Ebay price and bought out all the cheaper copies, leaving only the expensive ones behind. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Here is another thought - the main way to be qualified to teach lace at Adult Education etc is to take City Guilds - but everyone you talk to says that the only way to do that is if you are not working. So, who has time now to devote 2 years full time to do a CG in lacemaking? Only retired lacemakers. Only two years? It took me three to do Part 1, and then another two for Part 2. Admittedly the syllabus has changed since then, so it might take more or less time. The teaching requirement is to be qualified to a level above that which you plan to teach, (logical) and as there is no Part 3 to CG lacemaking, the jump from Part 2 to the CG 7407 (Level 4 Certificate in Further Education Teaching) is quite a jump in intellectual terms! I have passed Stage 1, which was supposedly a 14 week course but then took several weeks further to complete the assignments - whereas I could probably have coped with working part or full time with doing the lace qualification, I couldn't possibly have coped with the teaching qualification if I had started it this term (I'm working in an office part time again, along with teaching one day a week). That said, I have had two new students start today - both in their middle age (I would guess at 50s) - and one girl who I started teaching when she was 17, is now 22, made it to class for the first time in ages today - working commitments make it difficult for her to manage a day time class. It is a lot easier for the older generation to start new hobbies as they supposedly have more time (or are bloody-minded enough by then to make time for themselves for once!), and as women are living longer (so they keep telling us) it should not be a problem to us that they are starting hobbies such as lacemaking at 60 instead of 16 - they are still a new generation of lacemakers, and keep the interest going. My classes are held in a shop, so I am not held to the numbers required for an Adult Education Class. Also, the students pay weekly, so they don't have to cough up several hundred pounds in one go. We also need to remember, as someone else has said, that not all lacemakers are members of the guilds and clubs - many cannot afford to - so it may well be impossible to work out how many lacemakers there are at any one time, except a rough guess of double what we think it is! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] bookfinder/rejection of AOL addresses
Hi Devon, AOL routinely refuses to accept emails from ISPs who have certain types of gateways. I don't understand the techie part of it - my husband loses me in the first sentence of his explanations! Suffice to say, I have an email address which I cannot use ever to email anyone with an AOL address. Best wishes, Karen - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Can anybody help? - Thanks everyone!
Dear All, I just want to thank everybody who has responded to my request for information about the lace industry and how it is changing. You have all given me some brilliant ideas and a great deal of information. I felt as you had all made the effort to respond I should make the effort back in return to thank each of you individually. However I have had so many responses it's getting to the stage where doing this is becoming impractical. So I'd like to just say... ...Thanks so much to you all!!! A number of people have asked if I am merely concentrating on the UK interest. The answer is no, I wish to talk internationally, but due to the fact I live in the UK and only speak English (and a bit of sketchy French), it will probably have a predominantly UK feel. As well as a great many lace makers, I have had a few suppliers say they are happy to help, quite a number of whom live abroad (can I say that on the Internet? I mean abroad to me). Are there any other UK suppliers (thanks to those who have responded already) out there who are willing to answer a few questions, or merely give a recount of how they have seen the industry change over the years? For example, did your sales generally grow during the 70's, 80's etc then begin to fall? And why do you think such trends have occured? It would be really useful if suppliers (or anybody else!) could respond and help me pick out any key trends that have occured in order for me to compile some background info. And anybody with any thoughts/suggestions please share them, as they are all very much appreciated and they are all read and thought over! Thanks again, Julia The original request follows: Subject: [lace] Can anybody help? My name is Julia, I am 21 years old, and have been making lace for the past 11 years. I am also a final year marketing degree student at South Bank University in London. As part of my degree I have to write a 12,000 word dissertation, related to marketing, on a subject of my choice. It was recommended that this subject be something I am particularly interested in, so, the obvious choice was lace-making!! Over the past 11 years I have witnessed a growth not only in the number of lace-makers around, but also the number of suppliers. I have also been reading 'Lace' magazine published by the Lace Guild, whose aims include the promotion of lace-making. Hence I thought it would be interesting to investigate the growing importance of branding to suppliers, and to investigate how marketing techniques can be applied to the effective promotion of lace-making as a hobby. I have searched the Internet and read copies of 'Lace' magazine dating back to the year dot, however I am still having trouble finding enough relevant information. I specifically need figures, such as the first lace group was formed in... the numer of suppliers has doubled over the past ? years... There are now ?? more lace groups than ten years ago... etc. Can anybody help please? Any interesting websites? Suppliers out there willing to help? Other magazines, maybe for suppliers in the industry, that may be of use? All contributions would be GREATLY appreciated - I really need your help! Many Thanks Julia _ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rippled pages - Mrs. Lowes' Book for the CD Project
Mine is a 1919 impression published in London by T. Fisher Unwin Ltd., Diana (Northamptonshire, UK) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE:can anybody help?
I've been thinking a little about Julia's question, and I'm not necessarily sure that you can use membership numbers to Guilds as an indication of a trend, alone. There maybe a variety of factors as to why membership numbers of Guilds are changing - a decline might not in itself mean less lacemakers - it just might mean less lacemakers are joining a Guild - maybe they were once members and finances have caused them to drop out, maybe they've moved from one locale to another, there's a certain amount of natural attrition due to death, and maybe some just got unenrolled by the direction their Guild was taking, and resigned their membership. I myself was a member of more Guilds than I currently am. Finances were a major factor in why I dropped a membership, and a smaller influence on my choice was that I didn't feel that I benefited from the membership, as I might from a different group. I am a member of the Australian Lace Guild - even thought I live half a world away - and I am a member of the Rocky Mountain Lace Guild, which is my local group. For where I am at this point in time in my life, I feel I'm where I need to be. Our RMLG numbers have been fairly constant over the years (but we've seen a small growth in the past year or so), but we know from the tatting and knitted lace entries at our Colorado State Fair, that there are a lot of lacemakers in the State - they just either don't know about us or don't want to join. Cheers, Helen, Aussie living in Denver - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Rippled pages - Mrs. Lowes' Book for the CD Project
And my copy of Chats on Old Lace is dated MCMVIII, and published in London by T. Fisher Unwin. The pages have a texture like that of fine blotting-paper, and if I think about ripples long enough (for 5 minutes or so), then yes, I do seem to see something like rippling. Otherwise it wouldn't have occurred to me. -- Aurelia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Wedding Garters
Hi Joan - I discovered a really pretty Bucks Garter pattern in Bridget Cook's Introduction to Bobbin Lace Patterns. It's on page 61, and is made all of a piece - with hearts on the scalloped sides and a flower insertion in the middle. After you make the lace, you attach it to ribbon, then run elastic through the middle. I've seen a couple of copies of this book on ebay recently. Clay - Original Message - From: Joan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: [lace] Wedding Garters Hi all, I just completed a Torchon wedding garter would like to do another preferably in Bucks. Any suggestions where to find a nice pattern? Thanks, Joan - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] re: backpack pillow
If anyone knows of a web site with the backpack pillow on it I would be interested in having a look. Jane mentioned having 22 pair of bobbins on it so how wide is the roller? Does it have a firm working apron or is it geared more for European hands up work rather than hands down? My DH seems to be given backpacks every time he attends conferences these days and I am wondering if I could somehow cut one up. Think he will notice one missing? ;-) Janice - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:[lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie
Avital wrote: On second thought, after seeing the pictures on the Kleinhout site, I think it might be possible to use a rigid, satin-covered headband. The horseshoe is fairly flat and can be pinned to the pillow through holes in it.. I missed out on buying one last year at convention so I used a plastic bracelet from the $ store instead. I just lifted the bobbins through the center as I had already started on a motif. It worked but this year I managed to get one at convention, at just over $3 it hardly broke the bank. Janice - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Men making lace :-)
I seem to have created the impression that I think it's odd for men to make lace - I don't. I know at least three male lacemakers personally, and they all make superior lace to me. It was the expression 'man made lace' that tickled me, putting a gender on the maker (so there should obviously also be 'woman made lace' as well ), and conjured up a humorous picture - but then I have a very strange sense of humour. It's an odd expression to use - 'man made fibres' yes, but surely 'hand made lace' or 'machine made lace'. Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] numbers
Ilske and Everybody I think it is interesting that Ilske tells us that the German lacemaking organization has 4500 members. Considering that the population of Germany is less than the U.S. and the IOLI has 1600-1700 members, that means that the percentage of lacemakers in the population in Germany is higher than that in the U.S. It is possible that 4500 lacemakers is the largest percentage that can be expected in any modern population, given the pressures of modern life. So in the U.S. we still have room to grow until we reach that same percentage of the population. I don't claim to have any knowledge of lacemaking's decline or growth in this country. But I don't think that merely counting the number of suppliers will give a good estimate. When lacemaking appears to be rising it is natural that more people would try to enter the business of supplying lacemakers. But with every kind of new business, most don't survive. After a few years, the ones that haven't found the key to survival will shut down, leaving only those that have figured it out. I think the points about the internet being a factor are important and internet advertising is more important than ads in lace magazines. Nowadays a business that chooses not to have an internet presence is probably sabotaging itself. It seems to me that the best strategy is just to maximize every route for people to come to you: internet, a walk-in shop, mail order, lace days. One begins to get a picture of a lace supplier as a kind of octopus desperately running 3 different treadmills at the same time. They ARE giving us what we want, god bless 'em. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] numbers
In a message dated 10/01/2003 5:45:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Considering that the population of Germany is less than the U.S. and the IOLI has 1600-1700 members, that means that the percentage of lacemakers in the population I think the fact that the number of members of the IOL virtually hasn't changed in 20 years, or perhaps even longer, is incredible. When you consider how much the country and lifestyle, even the size of the population has changed, this must be the most stable statistic in America. The walk-in, store front option for lace vendors is one that they don't seem to take advantage of in America to any large extent. Is there even one vendor with a store front and regular hours? I think that the cost of a store front versus the benefit doesn't work out economically here. Of course, even the redoubtable Honiton Lace Shop has now decided it doesn't work in Britain either. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] numbers
Actually, yes - I think that Tracy Jackson (The Lacemaker) in Warren, Ohio, has a store-front operation which also entertains gatherings of lacemakers on a regular basis. Sounds like heaven to me - but it's too far away for a day trip Clay Is there even one vendor with a store front and regular hours? I think that the cost of a store front versus the benefit doesn't work out economically here. Of course, even the redoubtable Honiton Lace Shop has now decided it doesn't work in Britain either. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] numbers
I think it's important to note that not all lacemakers in the US belong to IOLI. In our Guild of 14 members, I believe less than half belong to IOLI. Nearly everyone belongs to a regional group, known as the North Carolina Regional Lacers. The primary reason is that the NCRL meetings, twice a year, are local, feature vendors, and the gatherings are more FAR affordable that those of the IOLI. Not all lacemakers are well endowed with private incomes and the resources to belong to groups where the gatherings cost in excess of $1,000 (US) to fully enjoy (that means having any money at all to spend in the vendor's area...) The other reason to question the validity of numbers based on organization membership is that in the past few years, several of the larger organizations (and I won't point fingers) have become increasingly polarized with regard to power-politics. This has turned off not just a few people from participation. Clay - Original Message - From: Lorelei Halley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: [lace] numbers Ilske and Everybody I think it is interesting that Ilske tells us that the German lacemaking organization has 4500 members. Considering that the population of Germany is less than the U.S. and the IOLI has 1600-1700 members, that means that the percentage of lacemakers in the population in Germany is higher than that in the U.S. It is possible that 4500 lacemakers is the largest percentage that can be expected in any modern population, given the pressures of modern life. So in the U.S. we still have room to grow until we reach that same percentage of the population. I don't claim to have any knowledge of lacemaking's decline or growth in this country. But I don't think that merely counting the number of suppliers will give a good estimate. When lacemaking appears to be rising it is natural that more people would try to enter the business of supplying lacemakers. But with every kind of new business, most don't survive. After a few years, the ones that haven't found the key to survival will shut down, leaving only those that have figured it out. I think the points about the internet being a factor are important and internet advertising is more important than ads in lace magazines. Nowadays a business that chooses not to have an internet presence is probably sabotaging itself. It seems to me that the best strategy is just to maximize every route for people to come to you: internet, a walk-in shop, mail order, lace days. One begins to get a picture of a lace supplier as a kind of octopus desperately running 3 different treadmills at the same time. They ARE giving us what we want, god bless 'em. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Insect Pins
I got my insect pins from Theo Brejaart and find him very easy to deal with from this distance, so I suppose the Uk people would also have no trouble! Usual disclaimer, just a very satisfied customer. Sue Fink Masterton, New Zealand - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Men making Lace
What a sensible man Iain Biggins must be! Good on Him, I say! I can understand his idea that it should help him with the business. I am sure the customers think the same. Long may he make lace. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it is cold and wet! [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie
I have incorporated one of my old macrame rings (I knew I'd find a use for them eventually) into my drawcloth. The ring is about 3 inches in diameter. I cut two squares of fabric about 10 inches by 10 inches, and trace the inside of the ring onto the very centre of one piece I then stitched the two pieces together on this line, cut away the central circle, and turned the pieces inside out. I then slipped the ring between the two pieces, and topstitched all round the outside of the square. (Like a Honiton cloth, I think, although I don't do Honiton). I use it for tape lace only at the moment, as this is the sort of lace I make where the threads often caught in embedded pins. The cloth with the embedded ring works wonderfully Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Hurricane Juan (long)
Well, I lived through the Montreal ice storm and now I've lived through a hurricane in Halifax. We usually get 3 to 4 tail ends of hurricanes every Fall. They're pretty big storms - take shingles off roofs, uproot a few trees. But we haven't had a hurricane since the early 60s. So no one is really prepared for one. Halifax harbour was supposed to be the landfall of hurricane Juan at 6:00 p.m., Sun. night. The place was right, but it didn't hit until 11:30 p.m. I got out my boxes of emergency supplies, which include lots of candles and a wind-up radio, closed the windows, and since nothing was happening, I went to bed. The wind woke me up at 11:00, so I lit some candles and got the radio going. A state of emergency had been declared at 9:30 and everyone who lived lower than 6 vertical feet above high tide had to leave their homes. I live in a 10 storey building, across the street from the harbour. I wasn't concerned about the water reaching my flat, 10 stories up, but I wondered what would happen if the foundations of the building were pummeled by the water. So I looked out the window and tried to calculate how high the basement was above the high tide mark. I figured we'd be okay (and I was right) but I got dressed and packed an overnight bag just in case. I'm on the lee side of this building, but the wind and rain was fantastic. The wind was even opening the windows, so I had to lock them. Then we were warned to stay away from windows in case they blew out. Every so often I would go out on my balcony, which is enclosed, to try to see what was going on. You couldn't see anything since we lost electric power early on, but every so often a car would go by and I could see that the road wasn't flooded. But the winds were fierce - up to 180km an hour. At 3:00 a.m., the radio tried to contact the Canadian Hurricane Centre and finally got an employee at home. They'd been evacuated. Since I was looking out at their offices, 2 blocks from here, I got a little nervous to say the least. Shelters were set up in various parts of town, but at that point I wouldn't have been able to get to one. The eye of the hurricane passed right over my building and the Hurricane Centre, but the calm didn't last very long. So I went to bed. I woke up at 5:30, when the hurricane had passed by. I think the quiet woke me up, and also I was roasting. I looked at my indoor/outdoor thermometer and it showed an outside temperature of 81 degrees F. I couldn't see very much since all my windows were covered with a greasy film and ground up leaves from trees. However, by noon, the rain had got rid of most of that. My building has no damage at all and the immediate neighbourhood isn't too bad: some trees down, the wood from a wharf is all over the railway tracks, shops signs gone, one store has lost all its windows, the chimney and outside stairs of a 3 storey building are in matchsticks. But the city as a whole is devastated. Some streets are still impassable because of downed trees. All the city parks are closed. The Public Gardens in downtown Halifax, which was planted in Queen Victoria's time, is flattened. All the trees uprooted, etc. All the wharfs on the Halifax side of the harbour were under 5 feet of water. The ferry terminus there was destroyed and one of the harbour tour boats ended up on top of a wharf. The bridges were closed until yesterday afternoon. Most fishermen have lost everything - boats, sheds, equipment, etc. We got electric power back late yesterday afternoon before the food in my freezer had started to thaw. Luckily I had stocked up and it was full, so the food stayed frozen. Thank god that I always keep an emergency supply of canned food and I'd be lost without my fondue burner. It's amazing what you can cook on it. There are still thousands of people without power and very few shops are open We don't realize how much retail businesses depend on electricity. Without it, gas station pumps don't work, neither do cash registers nor bank machines. Thank god too that I don't own a house. All my home-owning friends have some damage either from flooding or uprooted trees. Compared to my Montreal ice storm experience (10 days without electricity or heat and -25C outside), this was a piece of cake. However, it was a minor hurricane. I can't imagine what it would be like to live through a major one. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Gervase Phynn
Hi, This year I took one of his books on holiday to read on the beach. My DH was very embarrassed as I could not help but laugh out loud continuously !! Gervase was a school inspector and tells about his travels around schools in Yorkshire. I agree with Carol they are a great read and you just can't help but laugh !! Anne Nicholas in Hanworth, Middx. England - Original Message - From: Carol Adkinson Subject: [lace-chat] Gervase Phynn Just apropos of nothing really, but Gervase's books are available on cassette tape and (I think) on CD, and are the most hilarious ever! Perfect when stuck in a traffic jam and those around you are getting stressed out and agitated - if you listen to them, you won't want the jam to be unstuck! To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] firewalls
I have Windows XP, and Norton anti-virus. I have paid my subscription for the year, and get automatic updates which come through when I am on Outlook Express. They seem to have snared all the viruses that have tried to attack me. I have found it very good, and would not be without it! Re - firewall. There is one built into XP, but you have to enable it. 1) go to Start menu, and Right click on My Network Places. choose Properties. 2)Right click onyour connection, and choose Properties (again) 3)Click the Advance tab, and activate the firewall. I am pretty new to all this, but I managed it Ok. since then ( a couple of weeks ago) I have not had any spam come through when doing a search, or when doing my mail. - Great!! Hopes this helps.from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
