[lace] Richard Gravestock
Hi spiders Yep, Richard Gravestock's boxes are absolutely stunning, but no I didn't succumb, however, my husband spent quite sometime looking at and admiring them and went on to say, I guess you'd like one of those wouldn't you .., oh sometime would be nice I replied, as we have Richard coming to our A Double Celebration anniversary event next year I think I may be in for a very pleasant surprise. Here's to dreaming... Nicky in a cold grey Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Maltese bobbins
Hi spiders I am posting this to both lists (I hope!). I have a number of old Maltese bobbins that recently came into my possession (about 300 actually!). They originally belonged to a Maltese lady who made lace, she died in 1950 and had owned them for about 20 years, prior to that who knows, so they are are good 70 years. Anyway I am looking to give 10 pairs of these bobbins away. If you are interested please e.mail your name to me by 27 December. I will put all the names into a hat and get someone to draw them for me on New Years Day. I am willing, as it is Christmas, to post anywhere. I will put winning names up to the lists soon after the draw. Nicky in a cold grey Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3877
Hello to all, It has been a long time since I have not written to the group ...but the subject has attracted my attention I do a lot of translating for OIDFA and, also help the LOKK with the translation of their magnificent books into French...consequently, they sell more in France as French people are VERY bad at languages in general and ...very lazy learning as well, I must say (I used to teach English as a Foreign Language...so I know a lot about this...!!!) I agree with Ilske: it is VERY time consuming, translating a whole book means hours at the keyboard, ...but I do it for the lace making community... Lacefairy has started doing the translation of a few major words in European languages: you will find it on line at: http://lace.lacefairy.com/International/Europe.html This is a beginning: do tell us if it is sufficient or if you would need more... Have a nice day, Josette from cold sunny Bourgogne Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:06:27 -0600 From: Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [lace] Schmetterlinge / translations last year, I wrote to the list ... I was wondering if there is anywhere on the web that we could store translations for everyone to get at? I know we have a pictures of lace site (unfortunately when my computer died I lost Avital's message telling us how to get to that), but I think a translations site would be very exciting Sue [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Death of Pauline LLoyd
I was recently told a t a Lace Day that Pauline Lloyd had died. I have never met Pauline or her husband Eric. However at a lace day in Manchester a couple of years ago I met a lace group who were selling a folio of lace patterns on behalf of Pauline for the hospice she was racing money for. I liked the folio and rang Pauline and Eric. Pauline told me she had cancer and wanted to thank the hospice that had helped her by selling her folio. She also said having sold a lot sales had more or less stopped. I asked if I could buy the rights to continue to produce the folio and she told me what she needed to reach her target for the hospice which I agreed to pay. I emailed her a number of times as most of you know I am not very good with computer and the folio was on a disc! She was always helpful and kind as was her husband whenever I got to talk to him. I am glad she survived for quite a while. I think they both knew the out look was limited but they seemed to get on with life and to love each other. I am sorry I never met Pauline in person but will always remember her lovely manner, her kindness and of course her talent. KEEP LACING, VIVIENNE, BIGGINS - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: translated pieces for some of you
Dear lacefriends, This of you I translated this or that must not ask my permission to give this to other lace-friends privately. We couldn't print this because than we need the permission of the person who wrote the book. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacy visitor
I don't remember if I mentioned it to the list or not, but early in 2003 I had my photo taken whilst tatting for the Galena/Jo Daviess County Visitor's Planning Guide. In the background of the photo they used one of my lace pillows. The guide came out in May, and I've been distributing them all over, mostly because my wonderfully cute 5-year old son is in one of the best photos with a Civil War soldier. But, I digress... My very good friend works in the visitors center and one day last week was approached by a visitor who was tapping on my photo in the book and questioning who the lacemaker was and how glad she was that lacemaking was represented as she is a lacemaker also. My friend referred her to come see me at the courthouse where I work, but she never showed up. (Darn.) She was on vacation and I'm sure had plenty to do, but I would have liked to meet her and talk lace with someone. My friends and co-workers get this glazed look in their eyes and start edging away when I start talking lace. Good publicity for the lace world as thousands of these books are printed and we get about a million visitors a year in our little town. If you want one, go to http://www.galena.org and go to Visitor Guide Request at the very bottom of the page. Soon they will be reworking the website and some of the photos from the book may end up there as well. I'll keep you posted. Diane Williams Galena, Illinois USA where we finally have snow and I'm frantically tatting to finish Christmas presents. [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Working on the right/wrong side
Brenda Paternoster wrote: I was told once, by a lace friend who'd learned BL as a child many years ago from an elderly aunt that Bucks Point is made right side up. In a well tensioned piece of lace the gimp, which is there to be seen, will be slightly prominent on the top and so the top is the right side. I just looked at a PC piece in progress (suspended g) and discovered that it is so, indeed (I must be tensioning better than I'd thought g) -- the gimp rides slightly higher on the side facing me (what I'd thought of as wrong side). The difference isn't significant, but it's definitely there, and worth preserving -- as Brenda says, the gimp (in PG, anyway) is there to be seen... Um... I would so much like to have my cake and eat it too...:) I like working from the back too much to give it up; that's why I spent all that time and effort reworking the raised gimp in Russian Tape... I've been making that piece as I'd been told to (by several Arachneans): lift the left for the gimp to pass. I expect that's how your friend had been taught also. That method makes the gimp ride up on the side facing you. But what if, instead of lifting the left, I were to raise the right? The number of twists before and after might need to be adjusted, of course, but, would it flip the lace so that one'd be facing the wrong side (flatter gimp) instead of the right? Has anyone tried it to report on results? I can't conduct my own experiment at the moment, as I'm knee-deep in something else entirely... - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Working on the right/wrong side
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But what if, instead of lifting the left, I were to raise the right? The number of twists before and after might need to be adjusted, of course, but, would it flip the lace so that one'd be facing the wrong side (flatter gimp) instead of the right? Won't work. To do raised chevron gimp, you raise both inside ones and spread them in opposite directions (lift and separate). Raising the right is just the other half of the chevron--it produces a Z-twist gimp instead of an S-twist. It's the raising/lifting that produces a prominent gimp on the upper side, not whether it's left or right. You need to find a way to *lower* one gimp thread instead of raising it. Good luck! Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Fwd: Re: Threads of antique lace
The following ended up in my personal inbox; by mistake I'm sure, as it's (IMO) of general interest. So I'm forwarding. And adding a comment -- at the end. Begin forwarded message: From: Patty Dowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Dec 11, 2003 04:05:08 US/Eastern To: Tamara P. Duvall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Threads of antique lace Devon: which they analyzed thread from many of their pieces of 17th century lace and found many different blends of linen and cotton and some of silk. A paper was published [...] [...] she suggests that the thread may even have been secretly adulterated in order to make the expensive linen go farther. Tamara: Can't help but wonder though... *Was* cotton really cheaper as early as that? It had to be imported, from far away. While flax grew at home, since it doesn't mind cold weather... Once there were steamships and railways and steam-powered machines in the factories, sure, but, in 17th century or earlier? Certainly blending silk into linen wasn't done to save money -- silk has always been the more expensive proposition, even after Euope learnt how to produce it. So, perhaps, the rationale behind blending in cotton was something else too (weight? easier to spin finely and smoothly? esier to take care of, since less heat was required?) For all we know, the reason there's no literature describing such practice stems from it being a ferociously guarded family secret, like lace patterns, baking recipes, silk production, etc... :) Cotton could be had but there were a lot of technical issues to resolve in spinning a usable thread. The short cotton staple made a hairy thread. Adding it to linen (with it's very, very long fibers) would have been very smart. One also wonders about the silk: was it the leftover broken pieces of silk that are nowadays just spun into thread? Were the combinations of fibers just a waste not, want not kind of thriftiness? Were merchants diluting an expensive fiber with odds and ends? Was it a technical experiment? I always get quite distracted by contemplating how all the 'set' techniques we learn were invented. Everything was invented somewhere, sometime by someone trying to solve a problem. I often wonder how many things we take as 'known' are really mistaken. Patty Dowden Christmas in Silicon Valley (do I hear a beeping Christmas card?) Cotton could be had (first sentence in Patty's message) and cotton was cheaper than flax aren't, necessarily, the same thing :) The first sounds right for 16th and 17th century ; the second more for the 19th... We are so used to thinking of cotton as being inferiour to/cheaper than flax, we assume it had always been so. But, perhaps, it had *not* always been so... Think of potatoes -- when they were first introduced to Europe (16th c?), they could be had, but they were rare and considered quite fancy -- royal fare (poor royals g). But, by mid 19th c, they were so common, they became the *staple* of poorest of the poor (vide the Irish disaster, when the crop slimed two years in a row). Patty delights in puzzling over the origin of things; I, in sowing doubts on the givens dished out as if they were The Word... :) - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Translation
Thanks, Tamara. Yes I certainly do have the Cook book! Once I got the translation, I was able to look it up. I decided that the Princess Stitch referred to the Venetian cord, with one worker ,(in Cook), and the thicker Venetian stitch referred to the Grand Venetian,with 2 workers, so that will most probably be how I make it. Venetian cords are not very common in lace, but they do look nice, if properly worked. That will be something to work on next year (along with everything else!!) I will put a footside on it, not work it onto fabric, as I think has been done in the book. I will take this opportunity to wish you all a Happy Festive Season, and a happy and safe New Year. We are off on holiday at the weekend, for a month, and I look forward to catching up with you all next year (doesn't that sound aweful?!!! ) Thank you all for your help, and friendship during 2003. Stay well, and stay safe. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Johanson book on ebay...
For those of you who like to have the ephemera of our obsession, there is a copy of Sally Johanson's Traditional Lace Making on ebay right now. I understand that Mrs. Johanson was extremely instrumental in making Lacemaking known to the world during the second half of the 20th century. If you would like to own her book, go to http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3259204516 At present, there are no bidders, and the price is very low. (usual disclaimers...) Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Maltese bobbins
Hi spiders I am posting this to both lists (I hope!). I have a number of old Maltese bobbins that recently came into my possession (about 300 actually!). They originally belonged to a Maltese lady who made lace, she died in 1950 and had owned them for about 20 years, prior to that who knows, so they are are good 70 years. Anyway I am looking to give 10 pairs of these bobbins away. If you are interested please e.mail your name to me by 27 December. I will put all the names into a hat and get someone to draw them for me on New Years Day. I am willing, as it is Christmas, to post anywhere. I will put winning names up to the lists soon after the draw. Nicky in a cold grey Suffolk To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Maltese bobbins
Please put my name in your hat for the Maltese bobbin raffle. Carole 5665 Whitecraigs Court Dublin, OH 43017 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: nicky.h-townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:52 AM Subject: [lace] Maltese bobbins Hi spiders I am posting this to both lists (I hope!). I have a number of old Maltese bobbins that recently came into my possession (about 300 actually!). They originally belonged to a Maltese lady who made lace, she died in 1950 and had owned them for about 20 years, prior to that who knows, so they are are good 70 years. Anyway I am looking to give 10 pairs of these bobbins away. If you are interested please e.mail your name to me by 27 December. I will put all the names into a hat and get someone to draw them for me on New Years Day. I am willing, as it is Christmas, to post anywhere. I will put winning names up to the lists soon after the draw. Nicky in a cold grey Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) Passport details
Just received this one from my sister - put in my daughter's details and must admit the picture it came up with was a good likeness :-))) Don't panic - have a good giggle instead! --- Forwarded message follows --- In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kate Willis writes I've found a website that holds everyone's passport details. Anyone can access other people's personal info which is of course a major worry in terms of identity fraud etc. I've removed my info. I suggest you do the same. The website address is: www.humnri.com/enter/passport Kate ;) -- Jane Partridge To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone kept this?
for all who haven't seen it yet and for those who have seen it but still like a good laugh .. http://www.send4fun.com/washthecatp.htm wait for the music to start though .. dominique from paris Jane Partridge a fait jouer ses doigts de fée pour écrire à Ò[lace-chat] Has anyone kept this?Ó. [2003/12/11 18:40] Ages ago, a joke was circulated along the lines of how to give a cat a bath. (The one where the cat ends up being washed in the toilet and the dog laughing) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] feeling a bit low ??? i've got the remedy .....
click on the following http://www.send4fun.com/waterfight/1.htm dominique from paris To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Has anyone kept this?
dear Domonique, and Lacemakers, for all who haven't seen it yet and for those who have seen it but still like a good laugh .. http://www.send4fun.com/washthecatp.htm wait for the music to start though .. dominique from paris thank you very much for this website - and a much-needed giggle! (And I loved the one about Why Santa must be a woman too. Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: :-) Passport details
On Thursday, Dec 11, 2003, at 12:36 US/Eastern, Jane Partridge wrote: Just received this one from my sister - put in my daughter's details and must admit the picture it came up with was a good likeness :-))) Anyone can access other people's personal info which is of course a major worry in terms of identity fraud etc. I've removed my info. I suggest you do the same. The website address is: www.humnri.com/enter/passport I put in my own info (I have a very low level of paranoia g) and thought the likeness, although not taken from my current passport, wasn't any worse than the one in it; *there are* some recognisable features, but not enough to make a case in court g It also reminded me of the (appalling -- naturally g) birthday song one set of my step-grandchildren taught me: Happy Birthday to yo; You belong in a Zoo. You smell like a monkey... And you *look* like one TOO! - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
