[lace] Beeswax colour and acidity
I confess there isn't any lace content in this at all, except it may help clarify the discussion that has been ongoing on the Lace board. The different colours of beeswax are dependant on how long it's been in the hive. The freshly built comb and the cappings (the wax the bees use to seal the chambers,) are very nearly white. The longer it stays in the hive the darker it gets as it crystallises and gets discoloured by day-to-day bee living and with propolis, the dark amber coloured 'stuff' that bees use to seal up gaps in the high. If the wax is whitened again by industrial processes it is being bleached. The wooden frames in the hive have a thin, man-made foundation of golden wax fitted into them, with the hexagon shapes lightly embossed. The bees then build their comb onto both sides of this, with fresh, nearly white wax. The queen is kept in one storey of the hive and the honey is stored by the bees away from the brood, so you can take frames from the other storeys and scrape off the caps and spin the honey out. As the wax building is labour intensive, you then replace the empty frames ready for the bees to refill, so they can concentrate on collecting nectar for honey and pollen to feed the brood. It would not be sense to remove that wax unless you were getting a very good price for it, as the bees can refill it several times over two or three years. The 'wild' comb I am referring to is when on the odd occasion a swarm of bees take over an empty hive (attracted by the honey/propolis smells in the wood). If this hive isn't full of frames, or if some of those frames have damaged foundation in them, the bees revert to nature and fill the spaces with wild comb which is a back-to-back cells on an oval or vaguely circular chunk of comb which hangs down from the top board of the hive or in gaps in the frames. When the beekeeper realises there are bees in the hive, these stray bits of comb are removed and replaced by 'proper' frames. If you want genuine, natural 'pale as it comes' beeswax you probably need to buy direct from a bee keeper who will take the trouble to separate their cappings and any bits of 'wild' comb from the bulk of the 2 or 3 year old wax from damaged or due-to-be- replaced frames. If you ask for some, it is perfectly possible that they can put some through their steamer/separator for you. However, mostly they don't bother because the golden colour of beeswax is what most people expect. Acid is only actively acid in water, so in wax it won't be active if that makes sense. The acidity in wax is low anyway. Therefore it seems unscientifically possible to conjecture that waxed thread has more protection from the acidity in the atmosphere than unwaxed. Jacquie in England - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] fun at home!!
Thanks to all who replyed about having fun at home. Wow, are we ever a productive group. Our bobbins are moving!!! It will be fun to hear how convention was when they get home, but at least we haven't been sitting twiddling our thumbs! Happy lacemaking, Irene Whitham Surrey, BC - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace and music
Felllow Spiders, In the light of some recent postigs: Does anyony have favourite music for making lace by - for me Torchon and the Beach Boys, in the garden on a Summer's day . Happy Lacing Andrea in a warm and sunny Cambridge, UK Win a video conversation with a star with MSN Messenger! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Beeswax colour and acidity
In a message dated 8/2/2005 4:17:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The different colours of beeswax are dependant on how long it's been in the hive. The freshly built comb and the cappings (the wax the bees use to seal the chambers,) are very nearly white. The longer it stays in the hive the darker it gets as it crystallises and gets discoloured by day-to-day bee living and with propolis, the dark amber coloured 'stuff' that bees use to seal up gaps in the high. If the wax is whitened again by industrial processes it is being bleached. . . . . Thank you, Jacquie -- very enlightening! I don't know if the artists beeswax sold here is bleached, or just lacks the propolis, but it is much more expensive than the raw wax I used to get from a beekeeper here. I suppose the resiny chemicals in propolis could account for the softer, more malleable properties of the yellow beeswaxIt's good to learn about this, since I know beeswax has been used for a long time to strengthen threads. I haven't heard of any long-term disintegration problems it might cause (yet), but I'm certainly no expert on the subject. At any rate, I'll spring for the more expensive white beeswax for my sewing on light threads, assuming that it's not bleached (which, if it were, I would suppose could leach disintegrating chemicals into the threads over time, knowing how harsh bleach is) Very interesting to learn all of this, and many thanks again! I'm glad to find out about this. Ricki Utah USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace and music and fun
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 16:28 +0100, Andrea Lamble wrote: Felllow Spiders, In the light of some recent postigs: Does anyony have favourite music for making lace by - for me Torchon and the Beach Boys, in the garden on a Summer's day . Happy Lacing Andrea in a warm and sunny Cambridge, UK I prefer classical music, with a preference to baroque-music, it is calm has a steady rhitm wich works well with my bobbins, never make me jump when working with the needle. As for my fun in sommertime it is more on the emboidery-side, I am finishing a Schwaelmer-Stickerei, have 5 more meters to work on a simple occhi-border. My lace projects are a flamish lace almost finished, a second pattern with cats waiting, then 2 differend Duchesse-laces with 160 and 170 egytian cotton, at least 4 different needle-laces,so the summermonths are not long enough. Happy lacing Alix from Luxembourg. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] lace and music
le 2/08/05 17:28, Andrea Lamble à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Felllow Spiders, In the light of some recent postigs: Does anyony have favourite music for making lace by - for me Torchon and the Beach Boys, in the garden on a Summer's day . Happy Lacing Andrea in a warm and sunny Cambridge, UK the Beach boys !wonder how many of us are still fans .. those were the days . dominique from paris - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace and music and fun
On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, at 01:54 PM, Alix Hengen wrote: I prefer classical music, with a preference to baroque-music Before I retired, I loved to listen to baroque or new age music when I got home from work, finding it very relaxing. Then I found out why - the beat of the two styles of music mimics a heart beat at rest. So of course, it's relaxing. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Washing hands (was: Hard Lead Pencils)
On Aug 1, 2005, at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With as much as I'm handsewing lately, I'm wondering what it would be like in the winter, when my skin gets so dry anyway, as much as I'm washing my hands these days. I may have to move to a more humid climate -- and one preferably without all the salt in the air (dessicant effect, you know) -- if I want to do much whitework in the winter, with clean hands! Since my hands have always sweated buckets, and since I'm allergic to my own perspiration, I've always washed my hands frequently, even before I came to Virginia and started playing around with textiles. Needless to say, in dry Poland, it meant that my skin would dry up and crack all too often, if not re-moisturised with some kind of cream. So I've learnt to - as soon as I've washed and dried my hands - squirt a dab of cream on the back of one hand, and rub it in with the back of the other hand, re-moisturising both. The inside of the palm doesn't seem to dry out as much as the outside (and the outside doesn't sweat as much g), so the inside remains clean for work and the outside remains moist. Now that I'm back to handling thread directly (in tambour, you have to), I've also finally tried Jeri's solution, which she posted 2 months ago: The man who cleans gowns and was showing us how to fold and pack them, with padding in the folds, said he washed his hands the way his mother did. To prevent excessive perspiration, she instructed him to use *baking soda* as a soap powder. (In some countries it is probably known as bicarbonate of soda.) Can't say I've noticed a whole lot of difference, but *some*, especially if I didn't rinse out too well. But, I also noticed that, if I left enough of it to make a difference, then I also get the slick-slimy feel I get from sweat or dirt or hand-oils, even if the sweat itself is being absorbed/stopped from surfacing. And that feel is what's always driven me to washing my hands more often than ever Lady Mackbeth did... g So it seems to be a case of six of one, half a dozen of the other, in my case anyway. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Stocking runs: was Adhesives Blue Vanishing Pen Inks
At 10:38 AM 8/1/05 +0100, Jane Partridge wrote: Fraycheck always used to remind me of the stuff that you could get in the 1970s to stop ladders in tights - and I think that had been around for a while. Of course, in the days before coloured tights, it wouldn't have mattered if it turned slightly brown. The glue wouldn't have *time* to turn slightly brown. I had to have rather low grooming standards on Friday to get a week's wear out of a pair of hose. Pantyhose (tights) were even more evanescent, because you couldn't switch legs to put the picked places where they didn't show as much -- and it wasn't practical to wear the better stocking from each of two pairs. And Pantyhose didn't fit as well as stockings, which put more strain on them. Stopping runs with glue dates all the way back to silk stockings. In my grandmother's sewing basket, I found a repair kit that had been given out as an advertisement for silk stockings. It looks like a matchbook, and the run-stop sticks look like paper matches with glue instead of fire-starter. The label says that the glue is guaranteed to wash out, and a needle and fine silk thread are supplied for darning the run when you get home. The brand name of the stockings was Real Silk, so I presume that art silk (rayon) had already been invented when the kit was made. -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where the thermometer is creeping up, but Weather Underground says we might get some rain on Thursday. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Stocking runs
Joy wrote: Pantyhose (tights) were even more evanescent, because you couldn't switch legs to put the picked places where they didn't show as much My friends and I used to buy two identical pairs of pantyhose. When one laddered/snagged in one leg, we wore the other pair. When one leg of that pair got damaged, we cut the damaged leg from both pairs and wore both pairs, so we had two good legs and a double layer of the panty part. Got a bit warm, but when it's more important to spend your moeny on a new shade of lipstick ... Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Travelling children
With houses in the UK being quite small, once a mother has got used to the idea that her offspring has flown the nest, she's usually very happy to finally have a sewing/lace/craft room and let the offspring sleep on a camp bed when he/she returns home for a while. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Travelling children
Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With houses in the UK being quite small, once a mother has got used to the idea that her offspring has flown the nest, she's usually very happy to finally have a sewing/lace/craft room and let the offspring sleep on a camp bed when he/she returns home for a while. ah, they may fly the nest but they leave their stuff behind them and it's apparently far too precious to dispose of!! jenny barron Scotland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Travelling children
Jenny wrote: ah, they may fly the nest but they leave their stuff behind them and it's apparently far too precious to dispose of!! The parents I know (mainly teachers and/or lacemakers) put their kid's stuff in the loft, and take over the room with glee! Jean, Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Stocking runs
At 08:22 AM 8/2/05 +0100, Jean Nathan wrote: My friends and I used to buy two identical pairs of pantyhose. Since the early pantyhose were even more uncomfortable than garter belts, and were quite expensive, I only bought one pair in the sixties. I don't recall when I gave them another chance, but by then I'd stopped working in hose, so a pair lasts me forever. I don't even wear hose to church these days -- I wear long pants or a floor-length skirt. I wore nylon knee socks a few times last year, but this year I've worn wool crew socks and been careful how I sit! I might wear hose more often if you could still buy the opaque rayon hose grandmothers used to wear. -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. where it's hot and dry. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Travelling children
At 08:26 AM 8/2/05 +0100, Jean Nathan wrote: With houses in the UK being quite small, once a mother has got used to the idea that her offspring has flown the nest, she's usually very happy to finally have a sewing/lace/craft room and let the offspring sleep on a camp bed when he/she returns home for a while. When I came home from college, I'd been crowded out of the house altogether! Mom probably would have made my sister move over, were it not that I came only in the summer, and we still had the house trailer we used to go to Florida in. (At Christmas and Thanksgiving, it was really handy to have a whole extra kitchen.) -- Joy Beeson http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ http://home.earthlink.net/~dbeeson594/ROUGHSEW/ROUGH.HTM http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Sad Seagull Story
LOL - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Sad Seagull Story In a message dated 8/1/2005 5:42:40 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pelican steals wallet...LOL Understandable, since pelicans have such big bills! :) Ricki T Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Travelling children
she is heading to Virginia for university. We're heading out for christmas. we hope to spend a few days in Washington. Any chance we will see you? Cheers, Yvonne - Original Message - From: Sue Babbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [lace-chat] Travelling children Whereabouts is your daughter coming to in the US? Are any of us near enough to offer her hospitality? Sue To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re:Offspring moving out
I got DD out when she was but 18, and she never really came back, apart from a couple of 4-6 week breaks. Her 'stuff' went with her, and never really came back long term, but we are currently storing a bed matress for her, and she's married!!! The place they are renting is s small it won't fit in! DS was another matter... he went amd came back numerous times, a real 'boomerang' kid. He is now married, and 20 months later, every time they come and visit I insist they take some more of his 'stuff' with them when they leave... his wardrobe/closet is gradually emptyingthe garage only has a couple of cartons of 'stuff' left to go. He's a real horder, but now he can argue with his wife, not his mother about what is kept and what goes out! Maxne, in N.Z. showning some signs of spring... the days are lengthening and warming up and the daphne is blooming. Nothing is so strong as gentleness. Nothing as gentle as real strength. St Francis de Sales To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Travelling children
The parents I know (mainly teachers and/or lacemakers) put their kid's stuff in the loft, and take over the room with glee! Jean, Poole, Dorset, UK sorry Jean, I've already filled the loft - with everyone else's help I have to say - so that's not an option jenny barron Scotland - sunny again at last To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Stocking runs (2)
Joy wrote: I don't even wear hose to church these days -- I wear long pants or a floor-length skirt. I wore nylon knee socks a few times last year, but this year I've worn wool crew socks and been careful how I sit! My choice of footwear (an imposed choice between two) is either hospital-made shoes or trainers - I choose trainers - with extra padding to the sole added by the hospital. My legs swell, and don't look good, so they're covered by trousers always (my legs haven't seen daylight in 11 years), and I wear cotton trainer socks which finish level with the top of the trainers, because they cause the least amount of interference with circulation and are cool in summer. I used to wear a skirt with bright red trainers (if you have no choice, flaunt them), but now I find trousers most comfortable both physically and psychologically. And yes, they do have an elesticated waist - sign of getting old when comfort takes precedent over everything. What I used to suffer for the sake of fashion!!! Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] New Indian Recipes
Dear Friends, On my recent trip to Fiji I got some more Indian recipes from Roshlyn - the wife of my friend Pravin, with whom I stay over there. Here they are for your enjoyment, David in Ballarat 1. - 1 large clove of garlic - 1 cup of mint leaves - half cup of coriander leaves - 2 hot chillies - chop and grind all together - add a squeeze of lime juice. 2. - three-quarters cup desiccated coconut - 2 hot chillies - 1 teaspoon of fenugreek - squeeze of lime juice - pinch of salt - chop and mix well 3. This one is a kind of Indian Yorkshire pudding :) - soak a cup of dahl for 6 hours - make 1 cup of boiled rice - mix the two together and simmer till it becomes a batter consistency - pour into cup-cake type moulds - steam in a pressure cooker for 15 minutes (or work out a longer way to steam them without a pressure cooker). -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.8/61 - Release Date: 1/08/05 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re:Offspring moving out
In a message dated 8/2/2005 2:16:34 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DS was another matter... he went amd came back numerous times, a real 'boomerang' kid. He is now married, and 20 months later, every time they come and visit I insist they take some more of his 'stuff' with them when they leave... his wardrobe/closet is gradually emptyingthe garage only has a couple of cartons of 'stuff' left to go. He's a real horder, but now he can argue with his wife, not his mother about what is kept and what goes out! This reminds me of a discussion on another list a week or two ago. We were talking about the opposite meanings of the word cleave -- which, when you think about it, means both to cut apart (as in cleaver) and to join together, as in Genesis 2:24: Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall become one flesh. A professor up in Canada explained that this verse was intended as a warning against young men, that they weren't supposed to hang around their parents' house until they're 37, but get out of there and find some where else to live and someone else to take care of them :)) I thanked him and told him I'll warn my son, before it's too late! (DS, my first-born, is still here with me - no empty-nest syndrome over him, yet! :)) Ricki Utah To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Offspring moving out
Ricki wrote: A professor up in Canada explained that this verse was intended as a warning against young men, that they weren't supposed to hang around their parents' house until they're 37, One problem in the UK is the price of houses. Many offspring are staying at home with parents to save having to pay rent so they can save up to buy a house or flat. It's not unusual to find sons/daughters of 30+ still living with parents (with or without a partner). Renting a house or flat in the Poole area starts at around GBP500 a month and goes up from there with really no upper limit - there are some extremely expensive houses in Poole. That's a minimum of GBP6,000 a year on rent and wages in this area start at around 11,000 before deduction of taxes. So the only way they can really afford to save is to stay at home. Even then with prices for older smaller properties starting around 150,000 (the most expensive are around 4.5 million), and being able to borrow three or four times their annual salary, that means a huge down payment. It's got so bad that some parents, who have paid off what they owed on their houses, are re-mortgaging them to provide their son/daughter with the down payment. To keep down what they have to pay out for a house, some people are just paying the interest on the loan, and letting the lender worry about getting the loan back from their estate when they die. It's cheaper than paying rent. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Author query
Thanks for the information. Yesterday I asked my local bookshop to order twom paperbacks for me and I was rung today to tell me they are in. They were requested as British books and will be crossing the Atlantic with me next month. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Harry Potter
I noticed the latest Harry Potter on sale in my local supermarket this afternoon with two different covers - both hardback and both the same price. One is almost black, the other greenish. The only reason I can think of is that the dark one looked more grown up. Does anyone know why there are two different covers? I've never read a Harry Potter. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Stocking runs (2)
le 2/08/05 15:01, Jean Nathan à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : - sign of getting old when comfort takes precedent over everything. What I used to suffer for the sake of fashion!!! Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK lol how true ! I've stopped wearing high heels and keep to comfort . which means i buy shoes i have to give away a few days later because of too many blisters .:-(( dominique from Paris To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Harry Potter
Hi Jean, Yes there are two different covers for the Harry Potter books. One for adults and one for children. I found out on the one before the new one when I pre ordered though Amazon, I had a choice, both at the same price. Perhaps some adults are embarressed to be seen reading a childrens book :- Shame you haven't read any of the Harry Potter books, you're missing a good read. Try one Jenny Mother of Matthew who makes the Sparkler Bobbins in South Wales, UK - Original Message - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chat lace-chat@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:07 PM Subject: [lace-chat] Harry Potter I noticed the latest Harry Potter on sale in my local supermarket this afternoon with two different covers - both hardback and both the same price. One is almost black, the other greenish. The only reason I can think of is that the dark one looked more grown up. Does anyone know why there are two different covers? I've never read a Harry Potter. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Harry Potter - different covers
Thanks for all who've explained. Jenny wrote: Perhaps some adults are embarressed to be seen reading a childrens book :- But, whatever the cover, it's still recognisable as Harry Potter. Shame you haven't read any of the Harry Potter books, you're missing a good read. Try one I've got nothing against them - just not enough time to read everything I want to and make lace. I read the Da Vinci Code, then four Tom Sharpe's (really like the supid humour in those), now I'm on Angels and Demons - disappointed that it's a clone of the Da Vinci Code. Got two more Dan Brown's to read that I'm assured are both totally different to the other two. I only read about 10 pages a night before settling down to sleep. Daytime's lace. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] New Indian Recipes
On my recent trip to Fiji I got some more Indian recipes from Roshlyn - the wife of my friend Pravin, with whom I stay over there. Here they are for your enjoyment, David in Ballarat Ah, the Indian spice aromas of the Fiji markets. I lived in Lautoka once, David, and got to enjoy the locally available ingredients. Did you ever get to eat pulisami, made with taro leaves, real coconut cream fresh out of the coconut with a trace of chili, rolled into parcels and baked? I have had a Fijian friend (actually from Rotuma) stop with us recently, and he brought me a big stack of rotis made with Indian flour and almost dripping with unsalted butter, made by his sister now living in Sydney. They're all gone now! Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Harry Potter - different covers
Jean, if you can get through the Da Vinci Code (I found I had to read it right through, to my annoyance, because it was so poorly written and a load of rubbish), then please give the Harry Potter books a go. They are far better written. If I don't like a book, I won't finish it, but if I do like a book, I like to keep it and re-read it. Most of my reading now is re-reading old favourites. But Da Vinci Code I found I had to finish, then I immediately gave to my daughter in law (who has exactly the same ready attitude and tastes as I do) with the instructions for her to read it and give it away, that I did NOT want it back! Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Harry Potter - different covers
We have the children's cover, I think for all the editions, and proud of it. Just before the sale of No. 6 they announced that HP had sold 255 million copies, which approximately is 51 million sets of 5 books. Judging by this house alone, it has been read by 4 different people, they there are the library edition, so there is a potential that 200 million people have read the series - no wonder it is so popular and she is so rich, as that doesn't even count the audio, movies, and merchandising. I am have the same problem with the DaVinci Code, can't seem to get into it. On the other hand, I am rereading HP in little bits here and there, DH is reading it first time round in the evenings, and his 92 year old father asked for it back yesterday so he could reread it - he gets it in the afternoon until Don comes home. So in the house it is a hit, except for the 83 year old MIL, but then she doesn't read anything except the TV guide and her Bible. Lynn in the Gong To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] lace and music
Moving this from Lace to Chat, as it could get to be a very chatty type of thread! Once a Beach Boys fan, always a Beach Boys fan. Their music never ages. I feel sorry for today's teens and their deadly boring music. But making lace?I too prefer the classics as I lace, and again, the steady rhythm, but my favourite is Mozart. My all time favourite is a double CD of the soundtrack from an Australian half hour documentary series called A River Somewhere, where a couple of men go fishing (mostly casting/ fly fishing) in streams and rivers all over Australia. The music is mostly guitar, a bit of harmonica, and is perfect background music for both lacing and for driving. Noelene in Cooma [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/ Felllow Spiders, In the light of some recent postigs: Does anyony have favourite music for making lace by - for me Torchon and the Beach Boys, in the garden on a Summer's day . Happy Lacing Andrea in a warm and sunny Cambridge, UK the Beach boys !wonder how many of us are still fans .. those were the days . dominique from paris To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] random things about moving out etc
Be careful if you do take over the room of someone who's left home! I've left home on at least 2 occasions and am now back at my parents' for the summer because I didn't have anywhere to live in Bath over the summer break. Most people I know who rent are normally in a house-share of some form or living with a partner. I did manage to rent a place by myself for a while but that was down in Weymouth, 25 miles west of Poole, which is a lot cheaper! Helen Helen, normally in Somerset, UK but back in Poole, Dorset for the summer Forget the formulae, let's make lace -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 28/07/2005 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Sign of old age?
On Aug 2, 2005, at 9:01, Jean Nathan wrote: sign of getting old when comfort takes precedent over everything. Or maturity? g I could hardly wait to reach 16 and be permitted to wear high heels (and make-up, and nylons, and other such signs of being a grown-up)... By 18, if it wasn't comfortable, I wasn't buying. Fashion could catch up with me or not (sometimes it did g), but I really didn't care, especially in the shoe department. If I could find something that was both pretty (to me) and comfortable - excellent. But comfort (and quality - it should last longer than fashion; I hate to see a favourite disintegrate finally) always came first, then and now. I dress for myself, not for others. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fw: Growing OLD GRACEFULLY
Subject: Growing OLD GRACEFULLY Growing OLD GRACEFULLY A lady goes to the bar on a cruise ship and orders a Scotch with two drops of water. As the bartender gives her the drink she says, I'm on this cruise to celebrate my 80th birthday and it's today.. The bartender says, Well, since it's your birthday, I'll buy you a drink. In fact, this one is on me. As the woman finishes her drink, the woman to her right says, I would like to buy you a drink, too. The old woman says, Thank you. Bartender, I want a Scotch with two drops of water. Coming up, says the bartender. As she finishes that drink, the man to her left says, I would like to buy you one, too. The old woman says, Thank you. Bartender, I want another Scotch with two drops of water. Coming right up, the bartender says. As he gives her the drink, he says, Ma'am, I'm dying of curiosity. Why the Scotch with only two drops of water? The old woman replies, Sonny, when you're my age, you've learned how to hold your liquor. Holding your water, however, is a whole other issue. OLD IS WHEN .. Your sweetie says, Let's go upstairs and make love, and you answer, Pick one; I can't do both! OLD IS WHEN ... Your friends compliment you on your new alligator shoes and you're barefoot. OLD IS WHEN ... A sexy babe catches your fancy and your pacemaker opens the garage door. OLD IS WHEN ... Going braless pulls all the wrinkles out of your face. OLD IS WHEN ... You don't care where your spouse goes, just as long as you don't have to go along. OLD IS WHEN ... You are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by the police. OLD IS WHEN ...Getting a little action means you don't need to take any fiber today OLD IS WHEN ... Getting lucky means you find your car in the parking lot. OLD IS WHEN ... An all nighter means not getting up to use the bathroom. AND OLD IS WHEN ... You are not sure these are jokes. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Fw: House behind the house
Subject: Fw: House behind the house - --- MOST OF US CAN RECALL THIS HOUSE!! One of my bygone recollections, as I recall the days of yore is the little house, behind the house, with the crescent o'er the door. 'Twas a place to sit and ponder with your head bowed down so low, knowing that you wouldn't be there, if you didn't have to go. Ours was a three-holer, with a size for every one. You left there feeling better after the job was done. You had to make these frequent trips, whether snow, rain, sleet, or fog, to the little house where you sat and read the Sears Roebuck catalog. Oft times in dead of winter the seat was covered with snow. 'Twas then with much reluctance to the little house you'd go. With a swish you'd clear the seat, bend low and, with shivers in mind, you'd blink your eyes and grit your teeth as you sat on your behind. I recall the day that Granddad, who stayed with us one summer, made a trip to the shanty which proved to be a hummer. 'Twas the same day my Dad finished painting the kitchen green. He'd just cleaned up the mess he'd made with rags and gasoline. He tossed the rags in the shanty hole and went on his usual way, not knowing that by doing so he would eventually rue the day. Now Granddad had an urgent call; I never will forget! This trip he made to the little house lingers in my memory yet. He sat down on the shanty seat, with both feet on the floor, then filled his pipe with tobacco and struck a match on the outhouse door. As he took a long puff on his pipe, he slowly raised his behind, tossed the flaming match in the open hole, with not a worry on his mind. The blast that followed, I am sure was heard for miles around; and there was poor ol' Granddad just sitting on the ground. The smoldering pipe was still in his mouth, his suspenders he held tight; the celebrated three-holer was blown clear out of sight. When we asked him what had happened, his answer I'll never forget. He thought it must of been something he had et! Next day we had a new one which my Dad built with ease. With a sign on the entrance door which read: No Smoking, Please! Now that's the end of the story, with memories of long ago, of the little house, behind the house where we went cause we had to go. ~ Author Unknown - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/05 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of car02a.jpg] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] re: chidren leaving home
Hi everyone, Just had to put my two cents in. I do not have the empty nest syndrome, nor the boomerang effect, I instead have the revolving door syndrome and mamaw can you watch the kids, every day, don't get me wrong I love them all dearly, but it's not easy typing on the computer or making lace with a baby in your arms. I sometimes wonder how when I had my four children that anywhere I went they all went with me, I keep telling them to stop depending on me so much, cause I won't be around forever. Sometime between the 8th and 24th of August we will have our 10th grandchild, and I will be 50 in August too, sometimes I feel much older. G That's it for me, Lynn widgun004smate in WV. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Harry Potter - different covers
On Aug 2, 2005, at 17:46, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Jean, if you can get through the Da Vinci Code (I found I had to read it right through, to my annoyance, because it was so poorly written and a load of rubbish), then please give the Harry Potter books a go. They are far better written. No kidding :) I had to wait for a lng time to get my hot little hands on the Da Vici Code and was sooo disappointed... It had never been written as a *book*, IMO; it's a film-script - no depth or development of characters, one-sentence paragraphs, vocabulary at 4th-grade level (with unsubstantiated claims to the protagonists' brilliance)... There's nothing to the book but relentless (and not always credible) action; even parts of the book which so shook up the West (Mary Magdalene) and made it a bestseller are old... Harry Potter, OTOH... :) I've only read the first 3 books (but both in Polish and in the Brit-English g), but found them delightful and extremely well written. I'm waiting for the series to be finished, so I can buy a collected edition and read it all at once. And then again, savouring. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] lace and music and fun
In a message dated 8/2/2005 6:44:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Before I retired, I loved to listen to baroque or new age music when I got home from work, finding it very relaxing. Then I found out why - the beat of the two styles of music mimics a heart beat at rest. So of course, it's relaxing. I heard part of an interesting program this weekend on the radio (New Dimensions) about some new research on the heart. Turns out the heart actually does have sensory nerves of its own, not unlike the brain, and secretes hormones that have to do with the emotional state, for good or ill. The old stories about the heart being an emotional center, that perceives and feels emotions, are apparently true, after all - according to the scientist I heard talking about itIt sure does seem that way, sometimes, when you feel something in your heart, one way or anotherI guess with good reason! Ricki Utah USA To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Travelling children
At 8:26 AM +0100 8/2/05, Jean Nathan wrote: With houses in the UK being quite small, once a mother has got used to the idea that her offspring has flown the nest, she's usually very happy to finally have a sewing/lace/craft room and let the offspring sleep on a camp bed when he/she returns home for a while. Jean, it happens here, too. Alas, I'd just begun to edge my way into Elissa's room (a bookcase; taking over the drawers in the big dresser; my lace-pillow standwhen my husband's snoring got to be too much and HE moved into the room. I haven't found another place for those items, but they are definitely there on sufferance... One fellow, Bill Davis, in our lace guild has a published (but I don't know where) talk on The Room ... we ALL have it. Some of the tales he told on other people in the room the year he gave it as a speech were just dying of laughter along with the rest of us - like the lady who had raised several children in a house smaller than her current craft room (which might have been an addition onto the original house - too bad, it's been about 15 years since I heard the talk, and I don't remember the details). -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Sweet stay-at-homes
Hi All -- For those of us NOT at the IOLI Convention, and those whose children (or children's children) return or don't ever leave, this poem by Walter de la Mare comes to mind (notwithstanding its last line!) -- Here's to all of us! :)) Kind regards, Ricki Utah USA Sweet Stay-at-Home Sweet Stay-at-Home, sweet Well-content, Thou knowest of no strange continent; Thou hast not felt thy bosom keep A gentle motion with the deep; Thou hast not sailed in Indian seas, Where scent comes forth in every breeze. Thou hast not seen the rich grape grow For miles, as far as eyes can go: Thou hast not seen a summer's night When maids could sew by a worm's light; Nor the North Sea in spring send out Bright hues that like birds flit about In solid cages of white ice -- Sweet Stay-at-Home, sweet Love-one-place, Thou hast not seen black fingers pick White cotton when the bloom is thick, Nor heard black throats in harmony; Nor hast thou sat on stones that lie Flat on the earth, that once did rise To hide proud kings from common eyes. Thou hast not seen plains full of bloom Where green things had such little room They pleased the eye like fairer flowers -- Sweet Stay-at-Home, all these long hours. Sweet Well-content, sweet Love-one-place, Sweet, simple maid, bless thy dear face; For thou hast made more homely stuff Nurture thy gentle self enough; I love thee for a heart that's kind -- Not for the knowledge in thy mind. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Stocking runs
At 08:22 AM 8/2/05 +0100, Jean Nathan wrote: My friends and I used to buy two identical pairs of pantyhose. Since the early pantyhose were even more uncomfortable than garter belts, and were quite expensive, I only bought one pair in the sixties. I don't recall when I gave them another chance, but by then I'd stopped working in hose, so a pair lasts me forever. I don't even wear hose to church these days -- I wear long pants or a floor-length skirt. I wore nylon knee socks a few times last year, but this year I've worn wool crew socks and been careful how I sit! I might wear hose more often if you could still buy the opaque rayon hose grandmothers used to wear. All winter I wear wool knee socks (bought from the Vermont Country Store), which are available in regular and a large size which is both longer and bigger around the calf. Then I don't have to worry if my long skirt hikes up a tad! In summer I try to get away with bare legs as far as possible. -- -- Martha Krieg [EMAIL PROTECTED] in Michigan To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] I know it is old, but try and not laugh!
A duck walks into a bar and says Got any bread? And the barman says No The next day the duck returns and says Got any bread? And the barman says No! . The following day the duck returns and says Got any bread? I told you yesterday, N. O. NO! The next day the duck returns and says Got any bread? For cryin' out loud - N. O. spells NO and I mean NO! The day after the duck returns and says Got any bread? Look, if you ask me one more time if I've got any bread, I'm going to nail your darned beak to the darned bar! The next day the duck returns and says Got any nails? NO! In that case - Got any bread? Malvary in Ottawa, Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Pay for the job
A man owned a small ranch in Wyoming. The Wyoming Wage Hour Dept claimed he was not paying proper wages to his help and sent an agent out to interview him. I need a list of your employees and how much you pay them, demanded the agent. Well, there's my ranch hand who's been with me for 3 years. I pay him $600 a week plus free room and board. The cook has been here for 18 months, and I pay her $500 per week plus free room and board. Then there's the half-wit who works here about 18 hours a day. He makes $10 per week, and I buy him a bottle of bourbon every Saturday night, replied the rancher. The agent, thinking he'll get he goods on the rancher says. That's the guy I want to talk to the half-wit, That would be me, replied the rancher, What'cha wanna know?. Malvary in Ottawa, Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: white lie cake
From: R.P. Alice was to bake a cake for the church ladies' group bake sale, but she forgot to do it until the last minute. She baked an angel food cake and when she took it from the oven, the center had dropped flat. She said, Oh dear, there's no time to bake another cake. So, she looked around the house for something to build up the center of the cake. And found it in the bathroom ... a roll of toilet paper. She plunked it in and covered it with icing. The finished product looked beautiful, so she rushed it to the church. Before she left the house, Alice had given her daughter some money and specific instructions to be at the bake sale the minute it opened, and to buy that cake and bring it home. When the daughter arrived at the sale, the attractive cake had already been sold. Alice was beside herself. The next day, Alice was invited to a friend's home where two tables of bridge were to be played that afternoon. After the game, a fancy lunch was served, and to top it off, the cake in question was presented for dessert! Alice saw the cake, she started to get out of her chair to rush into the kitchen to tell her hostess all about it, but before she could get to her feet, one of the other ladies said, What a beautiful cake! Alice sat back in her chair when she heard the hostess (who was a prominent church member) say, Thank you, I baked it myself. -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Travelling children
- will this be for all four years or just for a semester or two? She is third year at Melbourne University in Victoria, and is on study exchange for the second semester. My son leaves for university at the end of this month, but mercifully it will only be 4 hours drive away. Originally he was talking of returning to England for uni, but has decided to stay in the Midwest. 4 hourts is a good compromise to England...*g* I hope your daughter is too excited to worry about being away from home, and that you learn to cope with her absence I think she is having a great time and I will fine once she settles in Charlottesville. I think it is just the best opportunity. One that I never had. I can't wait till it is me going through those big doors at the airport! Cheers, Yvonne. In rainy central Victoria Australia. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
