Re: [lace] Terms
I had to grin too when another student was trying to help me in my early lace lessons while the tutor was busy. "This is the way you do 'butterscotch stitch'. She had me scratching my head thinking I was a bit dumb until one of the other students whispered 'she means honeycomb stitch'. Cheers, Shirley T. - enjoying the 20mm of rain today but not nearly as much as Queensland, three full days drive to the north east of us. We are fairly safe in Adelaide. On 13/01/2011 9:44 AM, Carol wrote: Hi All, Thie thread made me grin! On one of the courses I attended at Belstead House in Ipswich (Suffolk, UK!) one of the ladies couldn't remember 'Point Ground Stitch', and went through the course calling it 'Stone Ground' - like the flour. Even now, I smile, and that course must have been at least fifteen years ago ... Carol - Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" To: "Lace" Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: [lace] Terms . So it doesn't matter what I call anything, or what anyone else calls it, so long as we get the results we want. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com -- J.S.& S.R. Tregellas 14 Sheringa Drive, Morphett Vale, 5162 Australia Electronics and Ham Radio Home Page http://www.users.on.net/~endsodds - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] "HIDE" Bobbin
On eBay a seller (Northumbrian) had a bobbin that had a single "name" inscription "HIDE". That is really stretching my imagination to decide if it is a forename, surname, instruction, cryptic.. whatever? As usual I throw myself upon you good folks on the list for your ideas... please. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Terms
Jean Nathan wrote: That's what's stuck in my mind and will be forever. I've heard double stitch mentioned - don't want to know what it is, as it's not a term I will use. Which is why I've given up on the names altogether. I teach "CT", "CTC", and "CTCT" or "cross, twist", "cross, twist, cross", and "cross, twist, cross, twist", and avoid mentioning the word "stitches" as much as I can. (Jean, I'm not criticising you. I agree that we all do what works for ourselves. I used your message as a *sample* of why I've switched to letters in teaching.) Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Terms
I realize I have been referring to Cassells Dictionary of Lace - which is, of course, written By Alex Stillwell. Cassells being the Publisher, I think! My apologies, Alex. I just grabbed the book off the shelf - and Cassells is written in Big letters, rather than your name. (Bad!) Memo to self, slow down, and read the page properly first!!! BTW - I hope your wrist is fully healed, now, from the Portland fall. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Terms
I was taught whole stitch - CTC, half stitch,- CT, and double half stitch - CTCT. Now, it seems, the recognised wording is cloth stitch, half stitch and whole stitch for these 3 stitches. Like the pair that weaves its way across the passives (is there another name for them, too?!!!) - Weavers, Walkers, Workers, Leaders, and/or Runners!!! it doesn't matter what I call anything, or what anyone else calls it, so long as we get the results we want. Absolutely right, Jean. Regards from Liz in Melbourne, where we have at last got some rain!! lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: Re: [lace] crochet hooks
One can buy Boyle crochet hooks at Wal-mart today. Boyle is the manufacturer. Sizes such as you describe are quite large and used with yarn or wool (yarn might be a "Southern Thing" describing something of acrylic or or man-made fiber rather than wool from animals. . Betty Ann in Roanoke, Virginia USA Jan 12, 2011 09:52:29 AM, elationrelat...@yahoo.com wrote: "Mother-in-law gave me a large number of crochet hooks that had belonged to her mother... two hooks that are marked "Size H USA" and "Size K USA". On the other side is "Boye"..." Liz - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Terms
I have a relatively new lace student - and it's taken me weeks to stop her calling the footside "footers"!!!She's so used to putting footers on her computer documents!! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) thelacema...@optusnet.com.au -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Carol Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2011 10:14 AM To: Lace Subject: Re: [lace] Terms Hi All, Thie thread made me grin! On one of the courses I attended at Belstead House in Ipswich (Suffolk, UK!) one of the ladies couldn't remember 'Point Ground Stitch', and went through the course calling it 'Stone Ground' - like the flour. Even now, I smile, and that course must have been at least fifteen years ago ... Carol - Suffolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Whole Stitch
Well said. Lyn from Lancaster, PA, USA where it's night and cold, and the snow's on the ground. "In the bleak midwinter" comes to mind. -Original Message- >From: Lorelei Halley >Sent: Jan 12, 2011 3:59 PM >To: lace@arachne.com >Subject: [lace] Whole Stitch > >When I was still teaching, I can remember an evening when my students were >getting really frustrated by the lack of conformity in terminology. "Why >can't you all just agree on a set of terms?" (Spoken with irritation and a >grumpy tone of voice.) I said "that's bobbin lace. Deal with it!". But >actually the disagreements about terminology result from that fact that we >don't tend to stay only within the territory of our native local tradition >when it comes to bobbin lace. Most of us are fascinated by all those other >national and regional traditions, in other languages, and on other continents. >The richness of this world tradition is what causes the terminology problem. >And, personally, I'll happily put up with terminology disagreements so long >as I can access all those traditions. >Lorelei > >- >To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: >unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to >arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Terms
Hi All, Thie thread made me grin! On one of the courses I attended at Belstead House in Ipswich (Suffolk, UK!) one of the ladies couldn't remember 'Point Ground Stitch', and went through the course calling it 'Stone Ground' - like the flour. Even now, I smile, and that course must have been at least fifteen years ago ... Carol - Suffolk UK - Original Message - From: "Jean Nathan" To: "Lace" Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:36 AM Subject: [lace] Terms . So it doesn't matter what I call anything, or what anyone else calls it, so long as we get the results we want. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] English English
Lorelei wrote: > To our British members: > Do you all really and truly use Fahrenheit for hot and > centigrade for cold? > Or are you pulling my leg? I'm laughing. Without these language > peculiarities life would be so dull! I read that message, Lorelei, and it made me laugh too! And I live in the UK. I think that some years ago we were meant to give up the Fahrenheit numbers we knew so well and use the Centigrade scale instead. We never quite made the switch . Our weather forecasts now give Centigrade figures first, and then "that's xx degrees in Fahrenheit". In my head I have got more comfortable thinking in Centigrade now, but it still helps to be bilingual - we can then understand our US friends as well as our Euro neighbours. Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Whole Stitch
When I was still teaching, I can remember an evening when my students were getting really frustrated by the lack of conformity in terminology. "Why can't you all just agree on a set of terms?" (Spoken with irritation and a grumpy tone of voice.) I said "that's bobbin lace. Deal with it!". But actually the disagreements about terminology result from that fact that we don't tend to stay only within the territory of our native local tradition when it comes to bobbin lace. Most of us are fascinated by all those other national and regional traditions, in other languages, and on other continents. The richness of this world tradition is what causes the terminology problem. And, personally, I'll happily put up with terminology disagreements so long as I can access all those traditions. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re:crochet hooks
Hi, Just sticking my nose in to comment on the size 14 to 16 crochet hooks. You can purchase size 15 and 16 regular crochet hooks from Handy Hands Inc. in Paxton, IL, USA. They also have all sizes in the mini hooks which look like a crochet hook cut in half. I haven't ordered any lately, but they are listed in their latest catalog. They catter to the tatting people with threads, shuttles, etc. Patsy A. Goodman Chula Vista, CA, USA Tatman wrote: > On 1/12/11 8:52 AM, "Susan Reishus" wrote: > > > On the small crochet hook subject, it is difficult to find the finer > > 14,15,16 > > now. I typically find them where lace is prevalent (from lace to lace > > knitting), and beading focused stores. For a long time, it was almost > > impossible to find a 14, and in the old days, it came with a steel cap as it > > easily punctured the skin. I liked the steel cap Some small hooks come now > > as > > "knit pickers" for pulling snags to the backs of knits. One source in the > > US > > that comes to mind, is Beadwrangler, for small sized hooks, and is an online > > source. Many state you can't find them anymore, but they are out there! > > I had an antique size 16 hook for years and it finally broke off from over > use. They are so delicate! I searched all over our area at flea markets > and antique shops for size 16 hooks because I use it for my fine thread lace > like Honiton and also for fine tatting. I didn't have much luck finding one > for a long time. I finally got one from Susan Groh of Unique > Expressions(Lace supplier out of Kansas City, KS[?]) at a lace gathering at > the Heartland Lace Guild's lace display at the Annual Paducah Quilt Show. > And this hook is special because it is bent slightly before the hook to make > joinings easier and less tension on the thread while joining. I like that > feature! > No connection, just happy customer! > > I am always on the lookout at the antique places to find more size 16 hooks > in case my one and only decides to bust off. Crossing fingers > > -- > Mark, aka Tatman > website: http://www.tat-man.net > blog: http://tat-man.net/blog > Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html > email: tat...@tat-man.net > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] English English
VBG now there's a thought large numbers for hot and small ones for cold Think somebody is definitely pulling your leg Lorelei, but I do love it... might just start doing that!! Sue in a mild'ish East Yorkshire (8/42 degrees!!) On 12 Jan 2011, at 20:39, Lorelei Halley wrote: To our British members: Do you all really and truly use Fahrenheit for hot and centigrade for cold? Or are you pulling my leg? I'm laughing. Without these language peculiarities life would be so dull! Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] English English
To our British members: Do you all really and truly use Fahrenheit for hot and centigrade for cold? Or are you pulling my leg? I'm laughing. Without these language peculiarities life would be so dull! Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Whole Stitch
At the most recent Ithaca Lace Day, I attended a Paris Lace class taught by Helena Demeyer-Fransen (sorry if I've misspelled it). She mentioned making a "whole stitch," and then she went through all sorts of "definitions" to make sure she was getting the point across. Obviously there was just about every definition in use by one or more of her students, so she was at a loss for a moment. She then asked if we were familiar with the Belgian color-coding system. Most, if not all of us, said yes. "So," she said, "when you get to this point you make a RED stitch." That seemed to do the trick. Elaine "Whole Stitch" in bobbin lace is as bad as the confusion of crochet stitches. Continental bobbin lace and English bobbin lace use the term differently. ~ Elaine Chock Woodbridge, VA (south of Washington, DC) ~ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Re:crochet hooks
"...I finally got one (size 16 crochet hook) from Susan Groh of Unique Expressions(Lace supplier out of Kansas City, KS[?]..." Mark They are available (size 16 [.04 mm] crochet hook and larger) at the bottom of the page at this link: http://www.7beads.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=CH1 http://tinyurl.com/Fine-Hooks or http://tinyurl.com/FineHooks There are places with lower prices, but I don't have them immediately at hand. Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Whole Stitch
"Whole Stitch" in bobbin lace is as bad as the confusion of crochet stitches. Continental bobbin lace and English bobbin lace use the term differently. That's why we often just use the terms 'cross' and 'twist'. We ALL understand those two basic motions. English bobbin lace: half stitch CT whole stitch CTC (also known as cloth stitch) whole stitch and twist CTCT (also known as double stitch) Continental bobbin lace half stitch TC cloth or linen stitch CTC whole stitchTCTC (whole stitch is two half stitches) For beginners it doesn't really matter in the long run which of the methods is used. There's no way to tell in a finished piece of lace whether the half stitch was done CT or TC. The difference is in working the lace. With bolsters, where the bobbins hang down, it works better if the stitches end with a cross. With flat pillows, it can be done either way since the bobbins will hold the position you put them in. Because of the confusion in some of the terms for the stitches, some people avoid the term 'whole stitch' completely. They use half stitch, cloth stitch, and double stitch. Or just use CT, CTC, CTCT. This confusion may also be the reason we used diagrams instead of words on many patterns. Whenever you get a new book, you may have to check the front or back for an explanation of terms used in the book. You need to know if the writer is using the terms the same way you are used to, or if you need to translate any of them. Use a bit of patience, and have fun with your lace. Alice in Oregon ... where I'm going to set up an exhibit of my work in a Gallery in town today. It will be up for a month. - Original Message - So what is "whole stitch"? If half stitch is CT then logically whole stitch is CTCT which means that "whole stitch and twist" is CTCTT. Or is it?! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Re:crochet hooks
On 1/12/11 8:52 AM, "Susan Reishus" wrote: > On the small crochet hook subject, it is difficult to find the finer 14,15,16 > now. I typically find them where lace is prevalent (from lace to lace > knitting), and beading focused stores. For a long time, it was almost > impossible to find a 14, and in the old days, it came with a steel cap as it > easily punctured the skin. I liked the steel cap Some small hooks come now > as > "knit pickers" for pulling snags to the backs of knits. One source in the US > that comes to mind, is Beadwrangler, for small sized hooks, and is an online > source. Many state you can't find them anymore, but they are out there! I had an antique size 16 hook for years and it finally broke off from over use. They are so delicate! I searched all over our area at flea markets and antique shops for size 16 hooks because I use it for my fine thread lace like Honiton and also for fine tatting. I didn't have much luck finding one for a long time. I finally got one from Susan Groh of Unique Expressions(Lace supplier out of Kansas City, KS[?]) at a lace gathering at the Heartland Lace Guild's lace display at the Annual Paducah Quilt Show. And this hook is special because it is bent slightly before the hook to make joinings easier and less tension on the thread while joining. I like that feature! No connection, just happy customer! I am always on the lookout at the antique places to find more size 16 hooks in case my one and only decides to bust off. Crossing fingers -- Mark, aka Tatman website: http://www.tat-man.net blog: http://tat-man.net/blog Magic Thread Shop: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatshop/tatshop.html email: tat...@tat-man.net Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Terms
Dear Arachnids So what is "whole stitch"? If half stitch is CT then logically whole stitch is CTCT which means that "whole stitch and twist" is CTCTT. Or is it?! That's exactly what Alex meant by different terms for the same thing. Whole stitch, meaning CTC was the standard term used by Honiton lacemaker when I started making lace in the mid 1960s. At that time full stitch, cloth stitch and linen stitch were also used in different parts of the Midlands and the abbreviation CTC was never used. I did not come across the use of whole stitch meaning CTCT until many years later. Now we have to be multi-lingual. Don't get too confused. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] crochet hooks
"Mother-in-law gave me a large number of crochet hooks that had belonged to her mother... two hooks that are marked "Size H USA" and "Size K USA". On the other side is "Boye"..." Liz *** Steel hooks are numbered (for threads), and there is an overlap (of about 3 sizes) where the aluminum hooks (for yarn) begin and are lettered. The larger aluminum hooks begin at B, and end now, quite large as super bulky yarns are popular. The newer aluminum hooks have a letter and a number to denote them (the old ones did not), as we move to international trade and internet communication. The H is a 5. metric, 8 USA, 6 Canada. The K is a 6.5 metric, 10.5 US, and 3 Canada. How is that for confusing? :-) On the small crochet hook subject, it is difficult to find the finer 14,15,16 now. I typically find them where lace is prevalent (from lace to lace knitting), and beading focused stores. For a long time, it was almost impossible to find a 14, and in the old days, it came with a steel cap as it easily punctured the skin. I liked the steel cap Some small hooks come now as "knit pickers" for pulling snags to the backs of knits. One source in the US that comes to mind, is Beadwrangler, for small sized hooks, and is an online source. Many state you can't find them anymore, but they are out there! Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Architects' Linen, Muslin v. Calico, pre-pricking
"Pat wrote: I use beeswax for several things. I usually keep one of the plastic incased disks near my desk and will stick the needle in it while pricking. So I do have a question. Is just rubbing the back of the card sufficient or do you heat it a little? If I am doing a pricking straight on to card (where I have printed the pattern on to the card), I use my beeswax pot. If, on the otherhand, I am using a paper photocopy and pricking through it into card. I use a candle and rub it right on to the front of the paper. When the pricking is done, I remove the paper and put what markings I need on to the card. Malvary in Ottawa where we have, so far, avoided most of the big snow storms which have been hitting parts of the US and Canada. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] crochet hooks
Try the following website: www.karpstyles.com/crochet/hook-chart.html Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Over Christmas my Mother-in-law gave me a large number of crochet hooks that had belonged to her mother. Among them are two hooks that are marked "Size H USA" and "Size K USA". On the other side is "Boye". The K hook is larger than the H hook. Does anyone know how these sizes relate to the other crochet hook sizes? I am assuming that Boye is the name of the manufacturer. Liz Redford Raleigh, NC, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Bucks Point advice wanted, please
It is not a difficult piece of Bucks lace. I have given page references from 'The Technique of Bucks Point Lace' As you are not a novice lacemaker, I think all you will need to work is the bookmark on page 11 and picots. I would suggest converting this piece to picot edging instead of the footside, as this will give you plenty of practice in them Page 12 catch pin - the pin is put to the side of the pairs not in between them Page 12 Point ground (cttt pin) The stitch around the bunnies. Note that you will not be closing the stitch around the pin. The hard part of this stitch is not to over-tension. If you do so, you will lose the hexagonal shape to the stitch. I was taught to tension Bucks by keeping the bobbins well spread apart, so that as you work each stitch you swing the bobbins across from one side of the pillow to the other. (I hope this makes sense. It is much easier to demonstrate things than describe them!) Page 12 Honeycomb ctt pin ctt . The stitch inside the bunnies bodies. Page 18 - Picots (including false picots, with which she starts the piece) It looks as if you take pairs out into the gimp to finish. Have fun! You may find that you love working Bucks Point and want to learn more! Sue Babbs - Original Message - From: "Gray, Alison J" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:51 AM Subject: [lace] Bucks Point advice wanted, please For my birthday last year, one of my work colleagues (knowing I make lace) bought me a copy of 'Special Occasions in Lace' edited by Bridget Cook. ... As she loves rabbits I want to make the 'love bunny duo' on page 18 which is by Bridget Cook. The pattern is Bucks Point and has no instructions. > I have 2 books with Bucks Point instructions; these are 'Technique of Bobbin Lace' by Pamela Nottingham and 'The Technique of Bucks Point Lace' also by Pamela Nottingham. What are the things in these books that I should tackle and are there any other books that I ought to get in order to learn? Thank you so much. Alison in Essex UK where it's dull and damp - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] crochet hooks
Over Christmas my Mother-in-law gave me a large number of crochet hooks that had belonged to her mother. Among them are two hooks that are marked "Size H USA" and "Size K USA". On the other side is "Boye". The K hook is larger than the H hook. Does anyone know how these sizes relate to the other crochet hook sizes? I am assuming that Boye is the name of the manufacturer. Liz Redford Raleigh, NC, USA Agnes Boddington wrote: > There are plenty of conversion charts on the internet to find the equivalent > sizes for US/UK crochet hooks and knitting needles. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Surprising book discovery
For those who would like to request this book via a library or 2nd hand bookshop, here are the details: Title :Masterworks: Decorative and Functional Art Embridery, cross-stitch, silk ribbon, lace, quilting, weaving, rag rugs, collectables. Publisher:Sally Milner Publishing Pty Ltd, Bowral, NSW Australia ISBN:1-86351-275-6 Year Published :2000 It looks like it might be the first book in the 'Milner Craft Series'. Good luck - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Bucks Point advice wanted, please
Good afternoon (or whatever it is where you are) For my birthday last year, one of my work colleagues (knowing I make lace) bought me a copy of 'Special Occasions in Lace' edited by Bridget Cook. It was a wonderful surprise, especially as she bought it not knowing whether or not it was the right sort of lace book. She retires in 2 years time and I would love to make one of the patterns in it as a leaving gift. As she loves rabbits I want to make the 'love bunny duo' on page 18 which is by Bridget Cook. The pattern is Bucks Point and has no instructions. I an a complete novice as far as Bucks Point is concerned ( I have 25 years of making other sorts of lace) and am wondering just how difficult this pattern is and how much I have to learn in order to make a good job of it, and whether I have enough time to learn. I have 2 books with Bucks Point instructions; these are 'Technique of Bobbin Lace' by Pamela Nottingham and 'The Technique of Bucks Point Lace' also by Pamela Nottingham. What are the things in these books that I should tackle and are there any other books that I ought to get in order to learn? I am sure that your advice will, as always, be exactly what I need. Thank you so much. Alison in Essex UK where it's dull and damp - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Terms
Jean Nathan wrote: > we have to "translate" English into English I think the quotation marks are on the wrong word - that should read we have to translate "English" into English And > We're used to parallel units such as > buying a pint of beer, but a litre of petrol (gas) and using > Fahrenheit for temperature when it's hot and Centigrade when it's cold. And in the UK we buy fabric (for patchwork, in my case) by the metre, but it's 44 inches wide ... I just treat the duality as a welcome exercise for my brain, and enjoy trying to be bilingual. Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] crochet hooks
Hi Agnes, Thank you. That is a great help to me! Joepie, East Sussex. -Original Message- From: Agnes Boddington Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:23 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] crochet hooks There are plenty of conversion charts on the internet to find the equivalent sizes for US/UK crochet hooks and knitting needles. e.g. www.thread-bear.co.uk/images/threadbear/Converion hooks and needles.pdf Btw the spelling in conversion is wrong, but as per the web address Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Terms
I was taught "You will first do a bandage in whole stitch", which was CTC. Then one in half stitch - CT. Then whole stitch and twist - CTCT. That's what's stuck in my mind and will be forever. I've heard double stitch mentioned - don't want to know what it is, as it's not a term I will use. Then open and closed methods were mentioned much later - I gather what I do is the closed method - but I don't really care. I do what I do. I'm not going to teach; I'm not going on any courses. I make lace for my pleasure and no-one else's. So it doesn't matter what I call anything, or what anyone else calls it, so long as we get the results we want. There are no lace police - or there's not supposed to be. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] crochet hooks
There are plenty of conversion charts on the internet to find the equivalent sizes for US/UK crochet hooks and knitting needles. e.g. www.thread-bear.co.uk/images/threadbear/Converion hooks and needles.pdf Btw the spelling in conversion is wrong, but as per the web address Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Terms
So what is "whole stitch"? If half stitch is CT then logically whole stitch is CTCT which means that "whole stitch and twist" is CTCTT. Or is it?! That's exactly what Alex meant by different terms for the same thing. On 12 Jan 2011, at 08:20, Jean Nathan wrote: > I either stick to the terms I know, like whole stitch and whole stitch and > twist, and ignore any others, or I translate American into English without > much trouble. In the UK we all know that if a man took his pants off, he'd be > in court for indecent exposure! Strange really we you think that we have to > "translate" English into English. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] help
Hi all Can anyone help me out, I'm wanting to locate a copy of Die Spitze 1/97 there is a particular article by Erica Knoff on German Lace bobbins that I'm interested in. The magazine is published by the Deutscher Kloppelverband - I have made an enquiry directly to them but they are unable to help. If you can help please contact me off list. Many thanks Nicky in Suffolk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Terms
Within my collection of crochet hooks I have old English hooks with a number system similar to the American ones. However, I have also even older ones in bone, wood and steel, which have no indication at all as to there size. So one had to just match hook to thread as best one could according to test result, tension and taste. Good lace making! Joepie, East Sussex where it is raining hard. -Original Message- From: Jean Nathan Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:20 AM To: Lace Subject: [lace] Terms Alex wrote: I don't. I either stick to the terms I know, like whole stitch and whole stitch and twist, and ignore any others, or I translate American into English without much trouble. In the UK we all know that if a man took his pants off, he'd be in court for indecent exposure! Strange really we you think that we have to "translate" English into English. Alice emailed me privately: If they had to be labeled USA way, they would be 14, 15, or 16.> That must be very confusing for you. We're used to parallel units such buying a pint of beer, but a litre of petrol (gas) and using Fahrenheit for temperature when it's hot and Centigrade when it's cold. Would probably been better if we'd gone totally metric in one go, but we all understand whether metric or imperial is used for each thing, so it doesn't matter. Still, I suppose it's unlikely that anyone other than a lacemaker would buy a crochet hook from a lace supplier, and assume that general supplier of crochet hooks do supply sizes 14, 15 and 16. Now someone will tell me I'm wrong. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Terms
Alex wrote: I don't. I either stick to the terms I know, like whole stitch and whole stitch and twist, and ignore any others, or I translate American into English without much trouble. In the UK we all know that if a man took his pants off, he'd be in court for indecent exposure! Strange really we you think that we have to "translate" English into English. Alice emailed me privately: same source as yours, so they are marked YOUR way. If they had to be labeled USA way, they would be 14, 15, or 16.> That must be very confusing for you. We're used to parallel units such buying a pint of beer, but a litre of petrol (gas) and using Fahrenheit for temperature when it's hot and Centigrade when it's cold. Would probably been better if we'd gone totally metric in one go, but we all understand whether metric or imperial is used for each thing, so it doesn't matter. Still, I suppose it's unlikely that anyone other than a lacemaker would buy a crochet hook from a lace supplier, and assume that general supplier of crochet hooks do supply sizes 14, 15 and 16. Now someone will tell me I'm wrong. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
