Re: [lace] Needlelace at the RSN

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Even though it's for beginners, I would jump at the chance to go there.

If only I had money for airfare and accommodations.  Oh yeah, and a
passport.  LOL

Jennifer


All this discussion of needlelace  so I had to smile when the latest
> post from the Royal School of Needlework popped up on my facebook page.
>
> https://www.royal-needlework.org.uk/courses/details/15587
>
> I suspect all you ladies are far more advanced than this. :-) .
>
> Jane
> Enjoying a sunny day in the South of England after weeks of rain.
>


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Re: [lace] Color in lace

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:29 PM,  wrote:

>   Linen shifts and shirts were the next to the skin layer, and were meant
> to be washed, so white would have to be the color of choice.  Remember that
> in Germany clothes have been boiled in recent memory.  How this explains
> the black embroidery on shifts in Elizabethan times I have no idea.
> Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania , USA, but presently in hot, sunny dry
> Arizona, hoping that the weather back home will be good by the time we get
> home.
>
>
> ​The same way we explain a Lamborghini or Bugatti.  Embroidered items,
like lace, were very expensive; from the creating them ("true" blacks were
extremely hard to do in Elizabethan times) to the keeping them nice (many
old records show a fortune for the time spent on laundry services).

Just like today, a person who can afford the Bugatti or Lamborghini can
also afford the upkeep, and think that getting 5 gallons/liters per
mile/kilometer is a worthwhile trade for the joy of owning the car that
purrs, the person who could afford the highly embroidered undergarments
also considered it a worthwhile trade for the ability to show off their
riches and social status.

Jennifer in Colorado​





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Re: [lace] Sue's Clock

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

I had a day of running away from dental issues today, so had the desire to
look at pretty things and find the direct link to the clock face before I
left for the dentist.  :\

Bronwen
who spent three hours in the dentist's chair today, and will probably have
to go back tomorrow as one of the fills she did cracked while I was eating
a french fry.  :\

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:34 PM, robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Thanks, Bronwen, for the link.  We technophobes thank you.  Sue, the lace
 is beautiful!  WHat a clever idea and a great execution.  I had no interest
 in a lace-faced clock, but now you've got me inspired.

 Thanks, both of you, for letting us see it.

 Robin P.


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Re: [lace] Announcement: Gems of European Lace, Met. Mus. of Art

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

If you can't get to the Met before the display closes, you can go to the
Met's website, click the collections button, then put lace into the
search field and bring up all sorts of lovely items.

I found a piece of needle lace (probably Amelia Ars) that is not on
display, but the resolution is so great that I can use it for my
documentation in the future.

Branwyn

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Avital spind...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm posting this announcement on behalf of an Arachne who can't do it
 herself because she is a volunteer at the Met and therefore not
 permitted to advertise the exhibit.

 Further details are available on the Met's site:
 http://www.metmuseum.org/en/exhibitions/listings/2012/european-lace

 or you can request a press release (PDF file) from Devon (
 dmt11h...@aol.com).

 Avital

 

 Gems of European Lace, ca. 1600–1920
 July 24, 2012–January 13, 2013


 The lace collection of The Metropolitan Museum of Art is one of the
 finest in the country. On view in this exhibition are a variety of
 styles and techniques spanning a period of more than three hundred
 years. Handmade lace falls into two basic technical categories: needle
 and bobbin. Needle lace is built up from a single thread that is
 worked in a variety of looping, or buttonhole, stitches. Bobbin lace
 originated in braiding; it is woven from multiple threads, which are
 organized on individual bobbins. Beyond these two basic categories,
 lace terminology can be quite confusing. Many of the terms used today
 were developed by nineteenthcentury dealers who wished to distinguish
 historical lace styles for the purpose of describing them to
 customers. The majority of these terms derive from the name of the
 town or region where each style was first made.

 Depictions of lacemaking in genre paintings of the seventeenth
 century, as well as the numerous portraits of fashionably dressed men
 and women wearing lace accessories, demonstrate the importance of this
 fabric. The best-quality lace was extremely expensive due to the
 time-consuming and painstaking process of transforming fine linen
 thread into such intricate openwork structures. Rather surprisingly,
 the seventeenth-century English clergyman Thomas Fuller defended the
 wearing of lace and the nascent English lacemaking industry, writing
 that it cost nothing save a little thread descanted on by art and
 industry, and saveth some thousands of pounds yearly, formerly sent
 over to fetch lace from Flanders.

 In the late nineteenth century American women began to recycle antique
 lace for use in fashion. As a result, many women began to collect and
 study lace, taking an interest not only in its artistry and complexity
 of construction but also in the historical and cultural contexts in
 which it was made and used. Particularly prized among collectors were
 pieces associated with a royal provenance, to the extent that many
 such histories were invented for the profit of dealers. In large part,
 this collection reflects the interest of these women who became
 serious collectors and who graciously donated their collections to the
 Museum.

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Re: [lace] Rembrandt and lace

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

The whole 2 volume set is online, hosted at the University of Arizona's
website.  Here's the link:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~spok/metabook/oilace.html

Volume 1 has more to do with the needle laces, with Volume 2 concentrating
more on bobbin laces.  It's fascinating to read, and tons of pretty
pictures (although all in black and white).

Hope this helps!
Branwyn
in sunny and warm Colorado Springs, where it's 75* F already, and supposed
to reach 79*F by the end of the day.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.comwrote:

 On 23/04/2012 00:33, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:



  Photographs from the Schiff Collection are featured throughout Ricci's
 book Old Italian Lace, which has been republished by Dover. The Schiff
 collection has a lot of laces that are identified in the book as being
 from the 16th and 17th centuries.

 I must see if I can get hold of this book; I'll ask my village librarian
 when I see her today.



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- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
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Fwd: [lace] Photos of Reticella Lace

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

It really messes me up that reply sends to author, not to group.

I meant this to go to the list, not just the person I was replying to.
 Sorry!
B

-- Forwarded message --
From: Branwyn ni Druaidh welshw...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Photos of Reticella Lace
To: bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com


Actually, it is buttonhole stitch on the triangles, circles, and
mountains.  The points are the picots.  The vertical and horizontal bars
are made by needle weaving over two or four threads.  The diagonal bars are
done using a wrapping technique.

I don't believe that this was actually *made* in the 1600's, because who'd
sell it to anything other than a museum if it really was, however, the
style is definitely from the late 1500's to early 1600's.

Bronwen


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:42 AM, bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello Linda and everyone

 Thanks for the link! Excellent photos, as you say worth a look.

  'rare 17th C...' so it would have been made in the 1600's... looks
 nearly new!??
 It isn't drawnwork/cutwork with buttonhole stitches as described -
 although it *looks* like it. Up close the bars resemble Venetian
 braid. Something is telling me 'machine made' !

 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Linda Walton
 linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
  Here's a link to some photographs on an eBay page, where someone is
 selling
  RARE 17THC. ITALIAN RETICELLA LACE 4 YARDS!.  While I can't say
 anything
  about the lace, nor the description, I do think the images are worth a
 look,
  especially the close-ups of the work.
 
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-17THC-ITALIAN-RETICELLA-LACE-4-YARDS-/370567596864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item56478ccb40

 --
 Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
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Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
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And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
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Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined. - Henry David Thoreau



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- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
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Re: [lace] Re state fair exhibit (was Handmade)

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

I understand that I may not know what I'm talking about (or view things in a
very different way, because I do that for sure), but I have to wonder:

Re: judges not touching the lace

Are people afraid that the judges are going to be so rough with the lace
that they are going to tear it or destroy it or something?  I'm not talking
about random passersby, here.  I'm talking about the judges.

Most fairs I've been to (which, granted, haven't been in a lot of areas,
only Tulsa, Winston-Salem, NC, and Colorado) have, at the very least,
something keeping the general fairgoer away from the entries (and this is
all entries, breakables, fiber, eatables, etc).  I understand that some
aren't as secure as others (putting up a rope 4' away from the displays
isn't necessarily going to stop a child who's parents aren't paying
attention to them), but they do have something up.

Note:  All of the competitions I've ever been in are SCA (Society for
Creative Anachronism) related.  I have always had the judge pick up and look
at my work (usually they asked permission, but I went into all competitions
I did with the expectation that they would have to pick up my work to look
at the stitches closer).  They also have always treated my work with
respect, handling it the least amount they had to, and NEVER roughly.  Also,
please note that in the SCA region that I'm in, the way a person's work is
judged is with the person sitting right there, giving information and
answering questions about the item(s) they've entered.  Even so, I've also
left my lace on my table (with children running about) and never come back
to a piece that's been tampered with in any way.

So I guess I wonder if there is really such an issue about judges messing up
already finished lace items?

Bronwen

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Lorri Ferguson lorri...@msn.com wrote:

 In our area we have had a very creative lacer, who over came the 'must see
 the
 back' rule in 2 creative ways:
  1- a butterfly was inserted into one of the acrylic frames molded at
 an
 angle to be free standing,
  2- a Rib  Roll piece was mounted at the very top to a lovely matted
 background in a frame (no glass, that would be inserted when she got the
 piece).
  Both pieces took awards and the  RR piece received Grand  Champion of all
 the Lace items entered (plus a nice check).  Both pieces were easily judged
 and easy for the Fair Clerks to handle and display.  Items at this fair are
 all displayed behind glass.   Just put on your thinking caps.

 Lorri

 
  Dear Liz,
 
   Since then I always turn in my entries in a frame so that no one
   can actually touch the lace.
 
  Then if I were judging your lace, I would have to disqualify it, for
  much of my judging is done by viewing the rear of the article.
 
  One show I judge at does indeed have a section for framed pieces and
  that's just fine.
 
  David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Lace in literature: a new find - moving bobbins with one hand

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:49 PM, bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com wrote:



   Hold the hands downwards as though playing the piano. Practise lifting
 the
  bobbins between the 4th and 3rd, 3rd and 2nd, 2nd and 1st fingers of the
  left hand until the muscles ache. ...

 Now I'm wondering, is there less *ache* if one is left-handed?


I would think she was just writing to and for right hand dominant people.
 In the 50's and earlier people did not allow their children to be left
handed for the most part.  So talking about using the left hand until the
muscles ache would be about both developing the coordination needed and
developing the muscles for the repetitive nature of the task.

At least, that would be my guess about it.

Bronwen

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It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
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- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
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Fwd: [lace] knitting

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Knitting is not really ancient, as having been around during Jesus' time.
 Naalbinding, the predecessor to knitting, was developed much earlier than
that (and may be a few thousand years old).  Knitting as we know it
(involving two needles and pulling loops through loops) was first seen
around 1000 AD.
(http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEspring06/FEAThistory101.html  This
is a pretty good article on the history of knitting.  I could wish it was
footnoted, however.)

I have heard the legend of the reason for the soldiers throwing lots for
Jesus' garment as being the weave was so fine, that it was worth quite a bit
more if they kept it all in one piece, rather than dividing it up.  While it
is more time consuming to weave something in the round without a seam, it
would be quite possible to do with the technology they had in the first
century.  And the fact that it is more time consuming to weave in the round
would lend credence to the thought that it was an extremely valuable piece
of cloth.

Ob lace content:  I am very close to being 3/4 way through a 4 by 8 piece
of reticello lace who's pattern comes from the 1500's.  It's only taken me
two years to get here.  Considering I've not had a person teaching me, so
every improvement is reinventing the wheel, I'm pretty pleased with the
progress I'm making.

Bronwen


On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Louise humem...@verizon.net wrote:

 I remember reading, so long ago I have no idea where, that knitting is
 ancient. It was said that the reason the soldiers threw lots for Jesus'
  seamless garment was that they could not devide it because it was
 knitted and would ravel if cut.
 Louise in Central Virginia

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Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined. - Henry David Thoreau



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Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
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Re: [lace] Nanduti

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

I wish they would have shown the lace completely off the frame!

That was beautiful work she was doing.
Branwyn

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.comwrote:

 I came across an incredible video on the process of nanduti. 9 minutes. You
 can see her starting a motifs and you can watch her cutting the fabric
 backing
 off.  My heart was in my mouth the whole time.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_w5nyzvcj4feature=related

 Lorelei




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each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
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Re: [lace] Bethesda

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

I know in Chicago there's tons of good fiber stores.  Maybe not in your
suburb, but there are many weavers, spinners, and other fiber people in the
Chicago area.

I live in Colorado Springs, and we have 4 fiber stores in the Springs
proper.  One of those stores caters to weaving (called Green Valley Weavers
and Knitters).  She has the most drool worthy fiber there.

Yes, I know that Chicago is a long way away from Colorado Springs, but I
used to live in Berwyn and then Round Lake for all of my childhood.  My
mother, who was an avid crocheter, knew of a few places she could get yarn.
 While that was a while back (and yes, I know things change), if you want, I
could ask around my weaving boards to see where people in the Chicago area
people get their fiber locally from.

There are tons of places that are better than JoAnne Fabrics or Hobby Lobby!
 :)

Branwyn

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.comwrote:

 Liz
 Art quilts are the most serious and commonly practiced textile craft in the
 U.S., all over the country, as far as I can see.  I live in a suburb of
 Chicago and every yard goods store has quilt fabrics and how-to booklets.
 Some knitting and crochet yarns exist, but not  in much variety and just
 about
 the only embroidery threads are stranded floss and pearl cotton.  Cross
 stitch
 embroidery is popular, from charts and kits mostly.  Embroidery fabrics
 don't
 exist in much variety either.  Aida is the easiest to find.

 Paper crafts seem popular, collage and decoupage.

 Without the internet we would never find materials or contacts.  Crafts in
 America -- its depressing.
 Lorelei

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And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
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Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
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Re: [lace] yoga in thread

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Cafe Press.  It's an online market in which people can upload graphics and
put them on shirts, mugs, hats, notebooks (the paper kind), pins, just about
anything.  The service takes a certain amount out per item sold, and creates
the item upon order.

They have reasonable prices for their items, and, at least the last time I
looked into it, they allow the shop owner the opportunity to sell the
items at just cost or only a few dollars over cost.

Just a suggestion.

Branwyn

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Sue hurwitz...@talktalk.net wrote:

 We have the technology, the transfer material and could print out and send
 these around the world for people to press onto their own t-shirt. Obviously
 we would need to check what the costs would be, if anyone was interested.
 Sue T
 Dorset UK


  Mark, She's right.  It's a great, not to say fantastic T-shirt.  From the
 little I've looked at your website[s] you're a creative kind of guy.  A good
 T-shirt is some of the best advertising around.  We NEED this T-shirt.  Do
 you, or does any spider know how to make these T-shirts happen?  There is
 such a woeful ignorance of bobbin lace especially, that any scheme to make
 the 'Average Josephine' aware would ultimately result in more lacemakers.

 Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, where, after days and days of dry, she went
 out before dawn with the Newfoundland for a walk to test the new running
 shoes, and it was RAINING!!!  Phooey.

 Mark I love the drawing - need the t-shirt
 Robin from Canberra


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Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
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Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
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Re: [lace] Re: Yoga in Thread

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Heh.  Never mind my other email.  I didn't read far enough ahead.  I love
the variety you put up at your Cafe Press shop!

Branwyn

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Tatman tat...@tat-man.net wrote:

 I was thinking that too. :) I have a cafepress.com account and already
 have
 some tatting related images that go on all sorts of merchandise.




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each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined. - Henry David Thoreau

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Re: [lace] Re: Fiber familiarity

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

A couple of years ago, at a Society for Creative Anachronism Arts  Sciences
event for the Kingdom (region), I had entered some reticello I'd worked on.


As I was sitting and talking with people, one man came up to me (who is
really into making chain mail items), picked up my piece of lace, and told
me how he could never have the patience to do that.  All the intricate work,
all the time put into it.  He'd be throwing the thing across the room in no
time!

I knew he made his own chain mail armor, and asked him how long it took him
to do that.  Did he make the rings himself, or did he buy them pre-made?  He
started talking about how to make the rings (as he made them himself) and
how long it took to make a chain mail shirt.  Then I brought the
conversation back to the lace by saying, See, I could never do what you do.
 I would never have the patience to cut the rings and make something as huge
as your armor!  And when my lace goes flying (which it does), and it hits
the TV, at least the lace is soft and it doesn't break the TV screen!

He understood.

Most people have something they love doing that takes a lot of time and
effort to do well.  They just don't realize that whatever it is that
somebody else is doing is their thing that they love and takes a lot of time
and effort to do well.

Branwyn

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Tatman tat...@tat-man.net wrote:

 On 8/12/10 12:09 AM, robinl...@socal.rr.com robinl...@socal.rr.com
 wrote:



 The patience comment always comes up whether I am tatting, bobbinlace or
 whatever.  I, too, tell them I have no patience.  And my wife reiterates
 that statement emphatically LOL!!  I only have patience for what I want to
 have. Example: tools that don't work, operator error, inanimate objects
 that
 get in my way.




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Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined. - Henry David Thoreau

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Re: [lace] Definitions

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Try researching needlelace to it's beginning, where a lot of times, in
books, it was called all sorts of things, including by the embroidery terms.
 It gets very confusing.  I'll think I'm reading about needlelace, then
suddenly realize I've been reading about embroidery of some sort all along!

Branwyn,
in warm, sunny Colorado

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


 My son always refers to my lace friends and  as lace loonies!!  I prefer
 to think that it is an affectionate term and that he really admires what we
 do.

 Having started doing needle lace I am never sure to use two words or one,
 i.e. needlelace.  My friend found some books on the subject by Doreen Holmes
 on line and she calls it Needlepoint but the designs are needlelace.  I
 always thought needlepoint was something done on canvass.  It sure is
 confusing.
 Janice






-- 
Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined. - Henry David Thoreau

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Re: [lace] ivory test?

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

That's actually the test for amber.  And the scent you are looking for (in
amber) is a pine scent.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:44 PM, hottl...@neo.rr.com wrote:

 Hello All!  Do I recall that there is a test for ivory--something about
 heating a pin  touching/lightly piercing the item in an inconspicuous spot?
  Something distinctive about the odor?  Susan, in Erie Pennsylvania where it
 is rainy  gloomy

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It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have
imagined. - Henry David Thoreau

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Re: [lace] Bamboo yarn

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

One of the things about bamboo yarn or thread is that bamboo is an extremely
fast growing plant, in both ways.  Some bamboo strains grow as much as 4
feet in a 24 hour period, and all bamboo has the potential to grow to full
height and girth in one growing season of 3 to 4 months (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo), and if you plant a hedge of bamboo in
your yard, it will spread and take over the yard in a few years.

So, a lot of industries are looking into making things (like paper or yarn)
out of bamboo as it's a much more ecologically sound idea than cutting down
forests, and a lot more economically sound idea than having to plant new
forests and wait 10 to 20 years before they can use the trees again.  With
bamboo, it's ready to harvest and be processed into products like yarn and
hardwood for floors in 3-7 years.

Ob lace:  I've never tried to make any lace with bamboo, but from what I've
felt of bamboo rayon in the stores, if I could find some thread small
enough, I think it would have a lovely hand and would drape beautifully for
a ruffle worn around the neck.

Branwyn,
who is not part of the bamboo industry or the yarn industry, but likes the
feel and drapability of the bamboo yarn she has felt.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Carol nestalace.ca...@btopenworld.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 I have watched this discussion with interest, as it seems very apposite! My
 daugher was given a lovely hat for her new-born little girl, made from
 'Bamboo' wool, and so soft, it was incredible.   I know nothing of the
 ethical considerations of the thread, but it certainly does seem very very
 soft, and ideal for a very new baby!

 Carol - in Suffolk UK
 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'

 - Original Message - From: Clay Blackwell 
 clayblackw...@comcast.net
 To: laceandb...@aol.com
 Cc: lace@arachne.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Bamboo yarn



  Hi Jacquie and others who have commented on the bamboo yarn...

 I agree that the 100% Bamboo yarn feels like rayon...  in fact, I think it
 essentially *is* rayon, made from bamboo...  and I think the milk yarn is
 another form of rayon, but in the case of the yarn I saw yesterday, they had
 the sense to blend it with Merino wool, making it a lovely confection!

 The one distinction I could see in bamboo yarn (100%) was that it didn't
 have the glossy sheen of the old, familiar rayon, but a much softer sheen,
 which was desirable, in my opinion.  Still, as I said, I think the blend of
 a more robust fiber with the bamboo would improve the texture and the hand.

 Clay

 On 1/27/2010 5:21 AM, laceandb...@aol.com wrote:

 Brenda
 On some bamboo yarn I bought in America, it is actually labelled rayon
 from
 bamboo fibre, which I think is a much more honest way of describing it,
 and
 rayon is exactly what 100% or nearly 100% bamboo feels like.

 Someone I was talking to thought that it was made from the inner pith of
 the bamboo canes, and spun directly from the fibres there, a bit like
 linen.

 I wonder how ecologically friendly these new fibres are, by the time the
 raw materials are shipped to the factory, and then undergone some fairly
 major
 chemistry.  They sound as if they ought to be, but I suspect they're not.

 Jacquie In Lincolnshire

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Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

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Re: [lace] Arachne'sWeb

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Due to the wording, it looks like it's talking about one of the many lace
guilds in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism).

There is an SCA wide lacemaking guild called Arachne's Web and then at
least 3 different Kingdoms (geographic locations) have guilds also named
Arachne's Web or something like it.

After doing some searching, I found that the specific guild you are talking
about (same wording) is within the Kingdom of the West (which is upper
California, USA).

Branwyn,
member of the SCA, but not in a kingdom that has a lacemakers guild.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Laurie Waters lswaters...@comcast.netwrote:

 I was just browing the web and came accross a reference to Arachne's Web
 that read:

 Arachne's Web: a guild of lacemakers recognized by the kingdom. Membership
 is given to those who have shown excellence in the art; there are many ranks
 within the guild. The guild presents lace napkins to the Crown at each
 coronation, and the lacemaker to the queen is usually selected from amongst
 the members. Members wear a token of black (silk), with a white spider's web
 embroidered on it.

 Is this something related to the Arachne listserver?
 Laurie
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Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

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Re: [lace] Lace Christmas Tree

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Wow.  Now I want to do something like that for next year, only on a much
smaller scale.  I can just imagine it, a needle lace tree like that.

H.  Might have to finish a couple projects then start working on it.
Branwyn

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Clay Blackwell
clayblackw...@comcast.netwrote:

 What a lovely tree!  I know the children enjoyed the project, and the
 finished piece is surprisingly gorgeous!

 Clay



  Here is a link to a website showing the making of a Christmas tree, all
 constructed out of lace:-



 http://www.os-primosten.skole.hr/upload/os-primosten/images/static3/1244/attachment/2009_BOR.pdf
 (Be aware that it is a pdf file, so may take a little time to download.)

 It was shared by a friend on a different list, who says that Christmas
 tree stands in primary school in Primosten, Croatia, place where local
 tradition of lace making exists.





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each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
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Re: [lace] needle lace

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

Oh wow!  Following a link from your link, I found this:
http://www.fioretombolo.net/reticelloantico.htm

It's very picture heavy, and not all the pictures loaded for me.  But all
the reticello lace, on all the different items!  Wow!  When I get done with
a couple of recreation peices (when I get good enough for a couple of
recreation peices) I want to do that!

Bronwen

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 9:24 AM, silvia gardiol sgard...@gmail.com wrote:

 At this link:  http://www.tuttoricamo.com/_MenuComeSiFa.asp (italian
 and english version) you can find some instructions and history of
 Reticello, a traditional Italian embroidery
 Silvia



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[lace] Thank you everybody

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

I received many wonderful responses from the list.  Thank you all for taking
the time to answer me!

Mostly I was given the advice to ask questions, so I will.  Good thing I'm
not shy, right?

A little background info, first:

About 4 years ago, I had the chance to learn pulled thread embroidery, with
the idea that I would be able to continue on to learn reticello, punta in
aria, and other needle laces.  This was a lovely idea, unfortunately, it
fell apart in the implementation.

Right after I had the basics (preparing the cloth, pulling the threads,
wrapping the warp and weft left in, doing some very basic embellishments
like spiders) I moved from North Carolina to Colorado.  From what I can
tell, in my regional group, there are some very wonderful bobbin lacers
around, but I was the first to work pulled thread embroidery and then to
start teaching myself reticello.  I have yet to move on to punta in aria.

I have been reading websites, and what books I could find, and they are
nice, but I learn best from seeing something done.

All this is to say:  I was having trouble with tension.  My very first
reticello-like design (taken from a pattern book from the 1500's) came out
looking nothing at all like it was supposed to look.  The second piece, I
couched the brides down to the paper, and the lace came out ... well, not
perfect, I have a long way to go, but looking like the design should look.

So, in doing reticello or similar types of needle lace, is couching the
brides normal or am I doing it wrong?

Thank you so much for your patience in reading through this whole missive.

Bronwen

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Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

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Re: [lace] gasoline lace followup

[Branwyn ni Druaidh]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Mitchell sky...@macnet.com wrote:


 Linda, the string-a-holic in Oregon where I definately NOT looking forward
 to the next several days of high 90's and low 100's - even if I did grow up
 in Phoenix!



There's a big difference between the 100's in Phoenix (which is HOT) and
100's in a humid place (which makes you want to devolve and grow gills
again).

Ob Lace:  I've seen a lot on this list about bobbin lace, but nothing really
about needle lace.  Is this list only for bobbin lace, or can people (like
me) who do needle lace (and into historical needle lace like reticello and
punto-in-aria) post and find people to talk to/help?

Thanks!
Bronwen

-- 
Per pale argent and purpure, two phoenixes counterchanged sable and argent
each rising from flames proper.

It is sometimes the most fragile things that have the power to endure and
become sources of strength.
- May Sarton

Only a life lived in the service to others is worth living.- Albert
Einstein

Out of clutter, find Simplicity. From discord, find Harmony. In the middle
of difficulty lies opportunity. - Albert Einstein

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful
than the risk it took to blossom. - Anais Nin

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