Re: [lace] Hanging Bobbins

[The Lace Bee]

Hi,

Hanging bobbins were commemorative bobbins produced for the execution of a 
person. They would be inscribed with the person’s name and date of execution 
and sometimes their crime

 Hope this helps explain. 

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> On 2 Mar 2021, at 00:38, Angel  wrote:
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> Do you mean matching pairs??

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Re: [lace] Jo Edkins website is unavailable

[the lace bee]

Hi Penelope

It’s moved here

https://www.theedkins.co.uk/jo/lace/index.htm

LB

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> On 8 Feb 2021, at 08:30, Penelope Piip  wrote:
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> Can anyone tell me why Jo Edkins's website is unavailable?
>
> Hugs from a snowy Tartu,
> Penelope
>
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Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

[The Lace Bee]

Elana

I used to dress up as the lacemaker in this painting.

https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q30098126

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>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I have a question about lace pillows in the 17th century Dutch Republic
>> that I hope you can help me with.
>> 
>> I'm giving a talk at the end of the week on lacemaking in Holland in the
>> 17th century, focusing mainly around Nicolaes Maes's 1656 portrait "The
>> Lacemaker" (as seen at the link).
>> 

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Re: [lace] Turning Lace Bobbins

[The Lace Bee]

Brian and Helen

Brian is right.  David is self publishing and it’s on his website

http://www.cdspringett.co.uk/acatalog/Woodturning.html

L

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> On 10 Oct 2018, at 04:56, Brian Lemin  wrote:
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> I forgot to ask him if he has approached David direct as I believe he self
publishes sometimes??

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Re: [lace] Winding Idrija bobbins for use "plams up" on a bolster

[The Lace Bee]

I wind counterclockwise as I was taught that way due to the spinning on the 
thread.  I do this for which ever lace I make and which ever pillow I use.

L

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> On 11 Dec 2017, at 09:51, AGlez  wrote:
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> This is an interesting question! In Spain we also wind counterclockwise.
> And we work mainly palms up. I don't know if lacemakers who work palms down
> wind clockwise. Would love to read your opinions!!

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[lace] Rosewood and CITES

[The Lace Bee]

I have a lot of things happening at the moment so most of my arachne emails
are getting put in the 'when I've got time' box.  My nephew has been
diagnosed with advanced cancer, I'm kind of between jobs but also trying to
start my own business and we only moved house 2 months ago.
So, how emails are titled is important to me so I don't miss things, and I
regularly go to the archives so I can quickly catch up in one place on my
reading.
Because of this, I would have missed Jeri's comment on Rosewood.  However,
I've gone off and done some reading on it.
You will need to check CITES for your own country and any country you plan to
visit / send things to, however as a starting point here is a link to the UK
Government website and the EU regs on it.  The ban on rosewood is not new,
there has been chatter on the web about it for over 4 years, however more
countries are cracking down on it.
Endangered species: imports and exports and commercial use - GOV.UK


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Basically, unless the item is over 50 years old and has been significantly
worked it can be confiscated on crossing borders and in some instances even in
your own country.
I did initially have a quick panic which of course is silly as I have never
taken my bobbins out of the UK nor do I actually have any rosewood bobbins but
this makes clear and interesting reading if you have any antique bone / ivory
bobbins too.  
Perhaps a link to store in the archives. Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Re: St. Catherine's Day-Cattern Cakes

[The Lace Bee]

Ok, so here is my knowledge from when I ran the cook school and had my own home 
economist. Plus my research into cattern cakes.

Use butter.  If you can't use butter use a pure sunflower spread that is as 
near to 70% fat as possible (it says so on the packet).  I use, in the UK, PURE 
(brand) sunflower spread for cakes and the old fashion Stork block for melted 
recipes. This is because hubby is dairy free.  Otherwise I would use butter all 
the way.

Dry cakes and biscuits come from using a low level fat.  Most low fat spreads 
are 50% fat and lower.  The rest is made up with water.  When you bake the 
water evaporates and you end up with a dry mix.  Add more water to you mixture 
and you get a sloppy mix and a dry biscuit.  I know, doesn't make sense but 
take my word for it after hundreds of biscuits cooked over the years. 

The recipes for cattern cakes in the book that everyone has said and the one 
that was published in the Lace Guild all those years ago all originate from one 
single book published in the 70s about the food of the UK.  I have searched for 
years for other versions and they all have the same ingredients in the same 
proportions.

As I have to use gluten free flower for me and dairy free for hubby I have 
developed the following ways to create s lovely little cattern cake biscuit. 

1) use large eggs every time
2) shove all the ingredients into the biscuit and form little balls the size of 
a small golf ball
3) put said golf balls of loveliness into a baking sheet that has silicon paper 
on it as a liner and squish them s little with the back of a fork

The silicon paper reflects heat back into the biscuit and helps with the cook.  
Baking parchment is ok but avoid greaseproof paper as it absorbs moisture and 
affects your bake.

Large eggs add the extra moisture without drying in the bake.

Good luck.

L

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> On 1 Nov 2017, at 18:18, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> I suspect some of the problem in the dryness of the cattern cakes is the 
> difference in flour from the UK to the USA.

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Re: [lace] Lace content only

[The Lace Bee]

Sue,

One of the things that made the passing of my mother more bearable was having 
the lace I had made her returned to me, after her death.

Like you, I could remember the happy times we had talking about the lace and 
choosing pieces to make for her as I looked and touched each piece.  

I don't have children to pass the pieces onto but I have some wonderful nephews 
who I know will treasure them when time comes.

Thank you for sharing you thoughts on your inheritance garter and also about 
the loss of your mum.  It is posts like yours that I love to squirrel away to 
look at later and lean from.

L

Kind regards

Liz 

> On 13 Sep 2017, at 12:20,   
> wrote:
> 
> This is the ideal time to have to concentrate hard on my lace as our Mum died
> last friday at the tender age of 93.  In the next few weeks I am being given
> back the pieces of lace she has had in her room over the last 4 years which we
> used to talk about on skype and she loved to receive.


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[lace] lace archives

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

Give a thought to the way the email system that is Arachne works.

In order to have a message delivered to your inbox you subscribe to a list.

However, this does not make the emails you see secure to non subscribers.  
Anyone can see the conversations through the archive by searching.  You can 
search on an email address, a name, a topic, in fact any key word.

So, as someone who creates email marketing for a living and is married to a 
security expert can I very gently suggest that before you post to the list you 
think about Lynn needs to see your email as it is going to be kept for 
posterity. Would it be better to email the person direct?

Public conversations about disagreements are painful and hurtful to everyone 
who reads them. Talk to each other directly then post the outcome to the group.

Right, I'm going back into my cupboard with a bar of chocolate and will leave 
you all to throw rocks at me.

L

Kind regards

Liz 

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[lace] Greetings

[The Lace Bee]

Dear Fellow Gentle Spiders,

I wanted to apologise to you all for being not actively participating in the 
Arachne lists over the past 18 months.  I kept moving the emails into a todo 
folder with the result that I never read them.

This isn't a sympathy email it's an explanation.  About 18 months ago I started 
to become more and more tired resulting back at the end of Jan this year with a 
very severe bout of vertigo that lasted over two months. The vertigo meant I 
was unable to drive, use a computer or actually do anything except sleep 
without feeling sick.

As the vertigo started to clear up I started to sleep more and more until 
around Easter I was sleeping 20 hours a day.  In the end, I ended up at the 
sleep clinic attached to a machine for 24 hours to monitor my sleep - the 
results of which I get back next week.  It is likely that this has been coming 
on for about 2 years now.

This week I returned to work after 7 months off.  Week after next we move house 
to make my work journey easier.

So, I'm putting aside a couple of hours once a week to reading my Arachne 
emails and replying.  We are only as good as the time we out in.

On a brighter note, in our move I've acquired a fantastic room in our new house 
to use for teaching.  There are no teachers in the immediate area so when i out 
an advert about classes I had 7 people interested in trying out lacemaking so 
I'm going to be able to start up classes in my new area.

Mind you, the lace response had been eclipsed by the response to my advert for 
Japanese braiding - 37 responses in two days for those workshops but I'll work 
on them about trying lace.

My love to you all,

L

Kind regards

Liz Baker
The Lace Bee
www.thelacebee.com




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[lace-chat] Greetings

[The Lace Bee]

Dear Fellow Gentle Spiders,

I wanted to apologise to you all for being not actively participating in the 
Arachne lists over the past 18 months.  I kept moving the emails into a todo 
folder with the result that I never read them.

This isn't a sympathy email it's an explanation.  About 18 months ago I started 
to become more and more tired resulting back at the end of Jan this year with a 
very severe bout of vertigo that lasted over two months. The vertigo meant I 
was unable to drive, use a computer or actually do anything except sleep 
without feeling sick.

As the vertigo started to clear up I started to sleep more and more until 
around Easter I was sleeping 20 hours a day.  In the end, I ended up at the 
sleep clinic attached to a machine for 24 hours to monitor my sleep - the 
results of which I get back next week.  It is likely that this has been coming 
on for about 2 years now.

This week I returned to work after 7 months off.  Week after next we move house 
to make my work journey easier.

So, I'm putting aside a couple of hours once a week to reading my Arachne 
emails and replying.  We are only as good as the time we out in.

On a brighter note, in our move I've acquired a fantastic room in our new house 
to use for teaching.  There are no teachers in the immediate area so when i out 
an advert about classes I had 7 people interested in trying out lacemaking so 
I'm going to be able to start up classes in my new area.

Mind you, the lace response had been eclipsed by the response to my advert for 
Japanese braiding - 37 responses in two days for those workshops but I'll work 
on them about trying lace.

My love to you all,

L

Kind regards

Liz Baker
The Lace Bee
www.thelacebee.com




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Re: [lace] Re: Pincushion

[The Lace Bee]

This morning one of my work colleagues showed me the results of the evening 
class for sewing that she ran yesterday.

As an introduction to sewing she taught her students to make a patchwork pin 
cushion.  In just a couple of hours they had mastered making a cardboard 
patchwork template, pinning fabric, threading a sewing machine and using a 
sewing machine.

However, these new skills were not what was being talked about.  What made the 
students really happy is that they had made something in their first session 
that they had only ever bought before, it worked, looked good and they made it.

Perhaps that is one of the most important elements of these pin cushions; these 
pin cushions now hold memories

Kind Regards
Liz Baker
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Re: [lace] Pincushions

[The Lace Bee]

Hello gentle spiders,
When I first started to make lace there was a trend to use sheeps wool with
the lanolin still in it for pin cushions and to have another filled with emery
powder.
I was given a wool one as my first pin cushion by the lace teacher and within
a number of months all of the yellow brass pins had turned black from the
lanolin and some even marked my lace.
In the end the pin cushion and the pins went into the bin and I bought a new
box of pins and made a new pin cushion using polyester filling.
I've also never bought any emery powder for a pin cushion to sharpen my pins.
 The effort to do so seemed not worth it the one time I tried it.  I just
treat myself to a new box every few years.
L Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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On Sunday, 1 January 2017, 11:12, Agnes Boddington
 wrote:



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[lace] Link for information on common use and data protection law

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,
I've been sent a link through work for a YouTube series of videos on legal
topics surrounding copyright.
Using Open Source and Creative Commons Licences - CL-IPs #2

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As this topic comes around on a regular basis I thought it a good idea to
share the link so it can go into the archives for the future.
L Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] RIP Catherine Linda Walton

[The Lace Bee]

I am saddened by Linda's death and will treasure even more the kind emails that 
I have received from her over the years.

She has a little piece of immortality as her emails live on in the Arachne 
archives offering advice and support to future Lacemakers.

L 

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

> On 13 Apr 2016, at 09:01, Linda Walton  wrote:
> 
> This is to let you all know that Linda Walton, a member of this group and my 
> wife passed away on the 23rd March.  The breast cancer which she had about 30 
> years ago came back and spread.  By the time we realised there was nothing 
> that could be done.
> 
> She died at home, surrounded by her books, with me holding her hand.

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Re: [lace] Re: Milanese books

[The Lace Bee]

Jane is absolutely right here. Someone sees that there is interest in a book 
and the price goes up resulting in no one buying it. The author gets nothing 
for a second hand book, the lace maker can't afford to own and use it and the 
seller ends up with an unsold book. 

However hubby suggested that this is more likely to be speculation on  the 
sellers part. Put a book up for oudles of money that you don't have and if some 
mark is stupid enough to ask to buy it then you can afford to go get a copy. 
The other thought hubby had was it creates an artificial price rose for other 
lace books so the seller can add a few extra pounds to less rare craft books 
and say that this was because lace books are going for such high prices. 

L

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> On 1 Apr 2016, at 22:45, Jane Partridge  wrote:
> 
> They might be listed at silly prices, but do any actually sell?

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[lace] Biggins / Presencia

[The Lace Bee]

Guys,
Just went to the Biggins website and it's down. Kind Regards

Liz 

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Re: [lace] Miniature lace

[The Lace Bee]

Roz Snowden's books are aimed at 1/12 dolls houses whilst Ann Volluer's book 
has various scales 

Be aware that s couple of the photos on the front cover of Roz's book don't 
appear in the final book. I spent hours looking for them only to be told they 
didn't make the final cut and was given the missing patterns by the author

L

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> On 27 Feb 2016, at 22:09, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Hello All!  Before I bother the inter library loan department, may I ask if 
> there are any new book suggestions for miniature lace trims?  I read the 
> Archives to confirm the two titles by Roz Snowden & two by Ann Collier.  Are 
> there others I should consider?  Currently, I am working a 1/2" wide French 
> fan edging by Springett with Egyptian 100 but would like to try something 
> smaller.  The smallest thread I have is 140.  Many thanks for any additional 
> suggestions.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA
> 
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[lace] Am I missing something?

[The Lace Bee]

I seriously thought I was looking the plot.  I appeared to come into a thread 
of emails that was half way through so I went back to my trash box for my email 
and sorted through there and nope, I've not missed reading an email  I 
simply never received it.

It appears that I got no emails between 17 and early on the 19th Jan.  The 
first I received was Adele commenting on a thread that I had never seen before.

L

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Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Knitting on planes

[The Lace Bee]

In the UK, through Heathrow it is ok to bring metal, plastic or wooden crochet 
hooks through security however I'm not allowed to take them on Lufthansa planes 
any more.  In 2013 I was and crocheted in protest on the flight to and from 
Munich, it was December and I made stars on the plane however only a month 
later and it was banned.

In Europe it's down to the airline

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

> On 9 Dec 2015, at 16:04, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Wooden crochet hooks also seem to be ok.

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Re: [lace] Fwd: Important Texere announcement

[The Lace Bee]

I for one am very sorry as I have bought from them on a number of occasions. 

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

> On 13 Oct 2015, at 21:27, Brenda Paternoster  
> wrote:
> 
> Dear Archneans, especially those in UK,
> 
> I have just learned that Texere Yarns have gone into liquidation.  A sad loss
> to the textiles world generally; they had a lot of threads and yarns and were
> one of the last mill shops around.
> 
> Brenda

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Re: [lace-chat] D Day Embroidery Panels

[The Lace Bee]

We went to see the panels a few years back and one of the things I got was the 
panels as s series of postcards that are joined together and pull out. It's 
interesting to view them together that way

Worth a visit if you are out that way 

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

> On 19 Sep 2015, at 14:23,   wrote:
> 
> found details of a museum housing panels of
> embroidery,

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Re: [lace] electronic versions of lace books

[The Lace Bee]

I recently bought Cook and Stotts lace strict inches for kindle so I could take 
that with me when teaching rather than my precious copy.

Cost wise it wasn't too bad compared to buying a second hand copy but my issue 
was that I couldn't see a copy,of it before I bought it and that is where the 
trouble started.

We expect kindle fiction books to be laid out like a paper book but this non 
fiction wasn't.

The information about the stitch is on separate pages to the pictures and to 
the instructions.

For me it's not too bad as i know what I'm up to but for a newbie I would now 
strongly recommend buying the paper version as its laid out better.  This is a 
pity because the book is out of print in paper so no new royalties to the 
authors and because of the limited number of people wanting the book I doubt it 
will go back into print.

Such a lost opportunity 

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

> On 6 Sep 2015, at 04:33, Jenny Brandis  wrote:
> 
> Amazon now has several bobbin lace books available for the Kindle eBook
> readers (you can download the readers for free and they work on the PC,
> tablet and phones as well as ereaders)

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Re: [lace] Sea Silk

[The Lace Bee]

I joined Arachne just a few months after it started.  I was very lucky to have 
a work email and a little while after that, I got my own email address and my 
first personal website.

For me, Arachne has been my support for nearly the entirety that I have made 
lace.  It has been my support when times have been difficult, my joy when 
people have shared their good news and my encyclopaedia of information when I 
need to know something.

I wanted to echo Alex's words below.  I have learnt so much from the Arachne 
members and not just about lacemaking. From good email practice (trim those 
posts) to recipes for cakes.  I've been sent wonderful bookmarks and Xmas 
decorations and even got the words to the song - 'Is he an Aussie Lizzie'.

I like facebook for it's immediacy but trying to find something there that you 
saw a while ago is impossible.  Arachne is the archive that allows us to go 
back over the years and find out that piece of info that you needed.

Thank you everyone for being part of it.

L  

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

> On 4 Sep 2015, at 09:22, Alex Stillwell  wrote:
> 
> My thanks to Arachne members for all I have learned over the years, may we
> continue for a long time.

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Re: [lace] (Lace) E'Bay seller

[The Lace Bee]

I missed Nancy's post. Thanks for the defence. 

As was identified in the posts these photocopies were from very recognisable 
sources. So Nancy is right that it's about books in print. 

I received a further email from the vendor telling me that they were disabled, 
in constant pain and this was how they made their living. That still doesn't 
excuse threatening behaviour on the part of the vendor. Should I have written 
to say that my dad has just died and the cat is undergoing chemo do don't be 
rude to me?  (Both true)

Manners maketh man

We go through the copyright debate every few months. Personally I believe that 
if in doubt then don't sell it or take a further copy for a friend. If you 
don't want it then give it to a lace group library. But, some people seem to 
know the cost of everything and the value of nothing

So Nancy. Big hug. 

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

Nancy wrote:

 what was being discussed were 
 photocopies from known sources.

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Re: [lace] (Lace) E'Bay seller

[The Lace Bee]

Brenda has hit the nail on the head.  If I make a copy of a page from Brenda's 
thread book to take with me to a lace day so I can buy thread, that's 
acceptable. If I went on to sell that copy it would not be so.  

Ok, so the fact that Brenda often gives out info from her book completely wipes 
my example off the face of the earth, she is her own worst enemy.

But this isn't the miss chandlers mat issue.  This is a book that is easily 
identifiable, the author is still alive and it's in print.  Any argument that 
these are of historical or particular interest that should result in the price 
being asked for is mute.  The book is in print.

I am sorry to say that I think the seller saw an opportunity to group items 
into multiple lots in order to maximise their return on investment.  If we were 
talking about splitting a group of plates up then it would be acceptable.

In an off post conversation, I had remarked to a fellow archneian that there is 
now a prolific action of Lacemakers worldwide who think nothing of scanning 
entire books and putting the, on line through Facebook

But this also brings to mind a lacemaker last year who was selling off a 
relative's book collection.  It really upset me to see that they wrote trying 
to charge other Lacemakers £20 for Christine Springetts lace for children of 
all ages.  Christine sells this for about a tenner on her site.  That is simply 
cruel to everyone to charge that amount of money.  Mary Nivens Flanders book 
was beiNg offered for £40. She sells hers on etsy for about £13 

One might forgive someone who doesn't know about lacemaking doing this but for 
a lacemaker to take advantage as the lady did last year is unforgivable.

Please don't throw water on me and tell me it's raining.  Sometimes, I'm not as 
green as I'm cabbage looking.

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 As I understand it the photocopies were made by the original owner of a book 
 for his/her personal use that was legal, but to remain legal they should have 
 remained with the book.

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Re: [lace] (Lace) E'Bay seller

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I've decided to play.  I've sent the question as to whether it's the book or 
photocopy.  when he says its a photocopy then I'll report him for copyright 
breach as copies are for personal use only and can't be resold.

Let's see what happens.

The bobbins are terribly over priced.

Do you know how he got hold of the estate?  Is he selling them for the family?

L

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Liz Baker

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 one is a photo copy of a pattern out of one of Geraldine Stotts book,he is 
 selling at £12.99.

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Re: [lace] (Lace) E'Bay seller

[The Lace Bee]

I asked the seller if these were the original book / magazine or photocopies
and he came back with this answer:

Hello, these are just scraps, mainly photocopies. Random mix. They were
important enough to keep, by the Lacemaker who owned them, so i thought the
public might like them. This is the last lot.
yours G J Flattery

I responded with:

If they are photocopies of patterns then you should not sell them as the law
on copyright states that copies can be made for personal use but not to
resell. The lacemaker would have made a copy to make the pattern from. That's
why they would have kept them. If this was for the book then the price is
reasonable as this is what it is going for on Amazone but not for photocopies
which are copyright infringements

He then turned threatening with:

i had already guess that you were a troublemaker.  i will be watching your
listings in the future.

I have thanked him nicely for his polite reply and promptly reported him to
ebay.  He has withdrawn the item and then threatened me again.

Lovely man.

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 I've decided to play.  I've sent the question as to whether it's the book or
photocopy.  when he says its a photocopy then I'll report him for copyright
breach as copies are for personal use only and can't be resold.



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Re: [lace] (Lace) E'Bay seller

[The Lace Bee]

Update.  Ebay take threatening behaviour very seriously and the nice lady I 
just chatted with has gathered all my emails from the seller and is going to 
censor him for his behaviour.  

The book in question is available on amazon for 12 or 13 pounds and he is 
selling photocopies.  You can't appeal to people like this to behave properly 
and not make money off people but you can get them on copyright.

Actually, had it been the original book then I would have been interested in it 
for one of my students who is 12.  

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 I have thanked him nicely for his polite reply and promptly reported him to
 ebay.  He has withdrawn the item and then threatened me again.

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Re: [lace] E'Bay seller

[The Lace Bee]

The seller removed the item.  I believe they were hoping that in taking it off 
for sale that they wouldn't gain the wrath of ebay however the emails they sent 
me are in my profile and the ebay chat captured them so it's a no go.  
Apparantly you can't hide from ebay.

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 Looks like Ebay are true to their word. Just searched for items by this seller
 and there are none.

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Re: [lace] Re: 3D printers - out of date books

[The Lace Bee]

Nothing new under the sun.  DJ Hornsby were selling plastic bobbins based on 
their hand turned ones back in 1988 when I started.  They marketed them for 
people who wanted a lighter bobbin as there were a similar price back then.

L

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 On 5 Jul 2015, at 17:43, Achim Siebert ac...@achims.de wrote:
 
 The spangled bobbins of England are not as easily copied - and even those are 
 already available in plastic.

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Re: [lace] out of date books

[The Lace Bee]

I bought the cook / Scott laces stitches for the kindle on iPad to use when 
teaching so I could keep my copy at home. 

It does the job but the kindle does not render the page the same way as the 
written book. What is on one page and easy to see in the paper copy is over 2 
or three pages on the kindle regardless of which way you hold it up.  The means 
that the photo and diagram are not shown together

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

 On 5 Jul 2015, at 11:06, Achim Siebert ac...@achims.de wrote:
 
 Some of this is happening already - instead of hunting down the essential 
 book „Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace“ by Bridget M. Cook, you can get it in 
 the Kindle shop now for a very reasonable price - it’s a godsend to have it 
 available everywhere on an iPad or KIndle. Or „100 Traditional Bobbin Lace 
 Patterns“ by Cook/Stott.

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[lace] Pinterest chargeable pins

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders

For those of you who use Pinterest do not throw away the email that you 
received today

Pinterest are trialling paid pins in the U.S. But this will eventually affect 
us all

Take time to read the email as it tells you how to change your settings so 
Pinterest doesn't push promotions onto you

If you use google then you will be familiar with how it makes suggestions based 
on you browsing history. Pinterest will do something similar. 

I know that many people on the lists use Pinterest as a way of gathering links 
to view later from other devices. 

L

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Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books

[The Lace Bee]

Do check the fabric softener sheet before you let it touch the book. Put it on 
s piece of kitchen paper and see if it leaves a residue behind. Some leave a 
greasy or soapy residue

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

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 Putting it in a bag with a fabric softener sheet might help.

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[lace-chat] Pinterest chargeable pins

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders

For those of you who use Pinterest do not throw away the email that you 
received today

Pinterest are trialling paid pins in the U.S. But this will eventually affect 
us all

Take time to read the email as it tells you how to change your settings so 
Pinterest doesn't push promotions onto you

If you use google then you will be familiar with how it makes suggestions based 
on you browsing history. Pinterest will do something similar. 

I know that many people on the lists use Pinterest as a way of gathering links 
to view later from other devices. 

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books

[The Lace Bee]

My apologies for my predictive text which changed your name from Malvery to 
Malvern.  I used to be a quite competent writer

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

 On 29 Jun 2015, at 08:18, The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Malvern,

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Re: [lace] Smoke smell in books

[The Lace Bee]

Malvern,

In the end the only thing that will get the smell out without damaging the book 
is time.  We bought a book off amazon in 2004 and it started to smell normal 
about 2008.  We had to keep it segregated from the other books as it smelt so 
strongly of smoke that it was infecting anything near it.  In the end, hubby 
took it to work and left if on a shelf on it's own.  

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

 On 29 Jun 2015, at 04:14, Malvary malva...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
 Does anyone know of a cure for the smell of cigarette smoke which permeates 
 books.  I have one used book (no longer in print) which came with a very 
 strong smell and in spite of trying onions, bicarbonate of soda, leaving it 
 exposed to the outside air nothing has worked so far. 
 
 Suggestions would be welcome 
 
 Thanks
 
 Malvary in Ottawa where we had a very cool miserable autumn like day
 
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Re: [lace] Prickings

[The Lace Bee]

Sorry not to snip but need both posts to explain my answer. 

When I make a mistake on the lines on my pricking, I very, very gently scratch 
the line out and the rub the offending place down with the wooden end of my 
bulbous pricker. After I've made my first piece of lace with the pricking you 
wouldn't know the was a correction. 

Correction fluid can flake do I avoid it but not to say it's not right for 
others. 

L

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

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 Can you still get that now?
 
 If not a small tube of acrylic paint could be substituted, but choose an
 opaque colour, not a transparent one!  Yellow ochre is opaque as is titanium
 white.
 
 Brenda
 On 16 Jun 2015, at 08:33, Leonard Bazar leonard...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Using permanent ink means a bottle of white typing correction fluid
 finds a place in my work box...
 
 Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] Reusing Prickings

[The Lace Bee]

I always prick out and mark apart from a couple of patterns where you had to 
photocopy and glue together which just didn't want to match so it stuck and 
platistcated. 

For me, like Jane, it is the drawing on that helps me understand the pattern 
movement. I have no problem with any method of crating a pricking but 
experience has taught me that my pupils who glue cover and go tend to take 
longer to understand the patter than when they prick and draw. I try to 
encourage them to do the latter but we all know what it's like when your 
bobbins are wound and you want to get on!!! 

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

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 Secondly I find that marking the pattern by hand gives me an opportunity to
 really look at the design before I start.

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[lace] Wordles now updated

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

I've updated my Wordles (remember no lace police) to correct a spelling 
mistake. 

You can download them from my website

http://thelacebee.weebly.com/arachne.html

As before, feel free to use them and share them


Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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[lace-chat] Wordles now updated

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

I've updated my Wordles (remember no lace police) to correct a spelling 
mistake. 

You can download them from my website

http://thelacebee.weebly.com/arachne.html

As before, feel free to use them and share them


Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Copying a brown pattern-clear contact paper

[The Lace Bee]

I use heavy duty manila folders to prick onto, have done for years.  These come 
in all different colours and I use blue or green as I feel

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 For quite a while I have used brown card and matt clear film
 Office suppliers (in UK Staples) sell both.

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Re: [lace] Returning to lacemaking after long

[The Lace Bee]

I'd be tempted to enlarge a simple bookmark pattern to about 300% plus and make 
it using yarn as a slim scarf.  The pattern would make up quick to get you back 
in the saddle and using the large pattern would work well with getting you back 
to the pattern.

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 Where should I start? Right at the beginning doing bookmarks etc? (it's my
 inclination to make a couple to refresh my knowledge and skills) but I am
 curious re what you would advise.

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Re: [lace-chat] To our Aussie and NZ spiders

[The Lace Bee]

In about an hour we will be setting out for the national arboretum near Derby 
for their ANZAC day services.

http://www.thenma.org.uk

  Because we are driving we won't be having a gun fire breakfast today, I'll 
save that for tomorrow but when we get home, we will be playing two-up as I 
bought DH a special set from the Australian Military Shop and he has promised 
to teach me the rules.  If any of you are interested then you can read up here:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-up

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

 On 25 Apr 2015, at 05:44, phil powis phil...@live.com.au wrote:
 
 This afternoon pubs may be having a
 two- up game - betting on a coin toss - illegal on all other days of the year.

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[lace-chat] To our Aussie and NZ spiders

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

In a few hours it will be dawn in Australia and New Zealand.  As the sun comes 
up on the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landings I hope and pray that the 
spirit of ANZAC lives on with you all and that the dawn services take place 
without incident.

Just a little over 20 hours from now, I and my DH will be watching the sun rise 
here in the UK thinking again of you all and are attending the National 
Arboretum to pay our respects.

L 

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Liz Baker

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[lace] To our Aussie and NZ spiders

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

In a few hours it will be dawn in Australia and New Zealand.  As the sun comes 
up on the 100th anniversary of the Gallipoli landings I hope and pray that the 
spirit of ANZAC lives on with you all and that the dawn services take place 
without incident.

Just a little over 20 hours from now, I and my DH will be watching the sun rise 
here in the UK thinking again of you all and are attending the National 
Arboretum to pay our respects.

L 

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Lace Police

[The Lace Bee]

I've made some wordles - word art from the phrases we used yesterday and they 
are available on my website to download.
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/arachne.html

go to the acrachne page and scroll down to the bottom,  click on the image you 
like to get the full size and then right hand click the mouse button and save 
the one you like.

Feel free to use them on anything you like

L


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[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Lace Police

[The Lace Bee]

I've made some wordles - word art from the phrases we used yesterday and they 
are available on my website to download.
http://thelacebee.weebly.com/arachne.html

go to the acrachne page and scroll down to the bottom,  click on the image you 
like to get the full size and then right hand click the mouse button and save 
the one you like.

Feel free to use them on anything you like

L


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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

[The Lace Bee]

Jenny,

Christine Springett published a fantastic booklet called spangles and 
superstitions which is worth reading if you can get hold of a copy.  Her 
introduction talks about the movement from fine thread to corse and the idea 
that then it was needed to have more weight for the domed pillion.

I use different forms of bobbin depending on the work and pillow I am using.   
If I am making lots of sewings I tend to choose a flat pillow and continental 
bobbins however I don't find continental bobbins work well FOR ME, on a domed 
pillow.  For that I prefer midlands.  If I'm not doing any sewings I may use 
spangles with dangling bits and I often use these when demonstrating as they 
are a good talking point however I tend to use standard midland spangles of a 
ring of beads,

Whilst I can't talk for others here is what I do with spangles (and having just 
spangled a number yesterday its quite fresh in my mind) I tend to go for a 
particular size and weight of spangle of spangle because I tend to buy my 
bobbins from a particular set of makes so the weights are consistent.

Over all, the total weight of my bobbins when spangled are the same.  I was 
recommended to buy bone bobbins a number of years ago by a lace maker who made 
floral Bucks.  Because bone weighs more, you can get a thinner bobbin for the 
same weight as a thicker wooden bobbin and this means that it is easier to put 
lots of bobbins on your pillow because they take up less room.  I tend to go 
for slimmer bone bobbins because then with a standard spangle they weigh the 
same.  For example I prefer Stuart Johnson's slim bobbins that he makes with 
the crystals on them to his thicker bobbins because they weigh and handle 
differently,  Whilst any of Chris Parsons' bone or wood work well for me 
including his pewter inlay ones.

If I'm given a bobbin or buy one that weighs different to my normal bobbins 
then I adjust the weight to match by using heavier or lighter beads as needed.  
For example` Chris Parson's pewter inlay bobbins; I've put lighter beads on 
these because the bobbin itself is slightly heavier.

When I started making lace, I tended to work with heavier spangles and over the 
years have gone from a 7 bead spangle to a 5 bead.  I also prefer a particular 
length of bobbin for working and of course`, have favourites that handle best.

If I was less lazy on a sunday morning I would get out of bed and go and weigh 
my bobbins,  Perhaps something to do this afternoon.

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 So, What do your bobbins weigh? Does your tension change if you use a 
 different style of bobbin?
 
 

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Re: [lace] Questions for those who use bobbins

[The Lace Bee]

I'm tempted to print this phrase out and put it on my wall.

Thanks Jean, it's one of the reason I love lace making 

L

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Liz Baker

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 After all, there are no lace police.

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Re: [lace] UK Lace Guild convention in Stockport this weekend

[The Lace Bee]

I'll be at the South oxfordshire lace day supporting the ISIS Lacemakers.

Hope to. See a few of you there.

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Arachne Commems

[The Lace Bee]

Like Cindy, I too must have missed something as I would also be interested in a 
bobbin. However at this time Im barely reading anything but work emails during 
the day and at home we are dealing with nothing but the vet as our cat, who has 
been unwell for a while now, has had emergency surgery on monday followed by 
chemo yesterday 

im sorry if i missed something i should have replied to.

L

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

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 I must have missed something.  I would also be interested in 2 bobbins and a 
 shuttle.

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Re: [lace] Lace on the Great British Sewing Bee

[The Lace Bee]

Do we l ow who ladies are?

L

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 On 6 Mar 2015, at 11:27, Maureen maur...@roger.karoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 showed four ladies doing bobbin lace and explaining

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Re: [lace] Newly invented bobbin?

[The Lace Bee]

I have a photo of one of those bobbins on my website and a link to is history.  
It's down the bottom of the page 

http://thelacebee.weebly.com/unknown-makers.html

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Liz Baker

 On 3 Mar 2015, at 01:50, Jay Ekers jek...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
 These use a similar idea to the bobbins that used little bought spools of
 wound thread.  A great improvement here that you are able to wind the
 bobbins yourself.
 
 Jay in Sydney

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Re: [lace] Threads Book

[The Lace Bee]

I was just unpacking my lap top this morning at 8.30 and switching it on when I 
heard a cry of happiness on the wind.

I think it was all the lacemakers on Arachne reading your post.

Can I add my thanks for you wonderful book.  I know what is going on my 
birthday list this year.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 12 Feb 2015, at 08:30, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com 
 wrote:
 
 Dear Spiders
 
 I’ve finally finished making myself google eyed with proof reading and
 Edition 6 of Threads for Lace is now with the printer.
 
 I still have to work out the fine details of prices and postage costs.  It’s
 a thicker book, 20 extra pages to include almost 400 extra threads, which
 means it will be more expensive than Ed 5 was, but overall printing costs are
 about the same as they were six years ago - yes that long ago! - when Ed5 was
 printed.
 
 More info on my website.
 
 Now I can wind some bobbins……...
 
 Brenda in Allhallows
 paternos...@appleshack.com
 www.brendapaternoster.co.uk
 
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Re: [lace] Mystery object

[The Lace Bee]

Right, in the end I took a snap shot of the picture in my fb app on the ipad, 
then opened the picture up and enlarged portions of it on the ipad.

I think we are looking at this sort of upside down.  The cuphooks are either to 
hang it from something or to hang something off it.

In which case they should be either at the very top or more likely at the very 
bottom.  This means that the stickyouty bits would be on the side.

I know it sounds silly but I think that this is right because when you look at 
the picture of the back the label has the cup hooks at the end.

So, how about this is a notice board with somewhere to hand your keys off?  

I'm interested in other guesses.

L

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Re: [lace] Mystery object

[The Lace Bee]

Dear Jacqui and the gentle spiders.

I have solved accessing the picture issue but not what this is.  

If you access fb via the apps on a tablet or phone then you have the 
opportunity to click on 'Posts to page'.  I normally access via my browser, 
even on the tablet because this actually gives me more control over which 
things fb shows me.

By accessing through a browser (safari on the ipad and chrome / ie on the pc) 
The picture appears to have been stripped.

As Sue and others have commented the photo in the comment shows up straight 
away however you access.

Sometimes I really feel my age.  As Groucho Marx used to say; this is so easy a 
child of 4 could do it.  Get me a child of 4.  

Or in my case, an SEO Optimisation expert who is half my age and that I bribe 
with chocolate and sits opposite me.

I am now completely bemused by the article.  There are cup hooks and knobs and 
things on it.  I think a major pondering is in order accompanied by a hot 
chocolate,  I don't think that will solve the problem of what it is but the hot 
chocolate will be an enjoyable compensation.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 4 Feb 2015, at 14:20, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'm not a Facebook member, but I can see the photo of the reverse of the item 
 at:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205770204079205set=p.10205770204079205type=1theater
 
 
 Sue
 
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Re: [lace] Mystery object

[The Lace Bee]

Jacquie,

I dived over to the page straight away but for the life of me I can't bring up 
the picture.  I can see the comment and it is showing an icon to indicate that 
there is a photo there but it just won't show it. 

Can you or any of the gentle spiders explain what I'm doing wrong?

L

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Liz Baker

 On 4 Feb 2015, at 12:48, laceandbits laceandb...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Recently a photo of a mystery object has been posted on The Lace Guild's 
 Facebook page. It was suggested to the buyer that it might be a place pillow, 
  and could we confirm it.

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Re: [lace] Mystery object

[The Lace Bee]

Jacquie,

I've just spoken to our experts here at work (the advantage of being rebranded 
IT) and we've all looked at the LG fb page but can't see the picture.  They 
suggest that you might be able to see it as admin but I can't as a 'normal' 
(and I use that term loosely) person.

We've use tablet and pc, safari, chrome and IE to look and can't access it.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 4 Feb 2015, at 13:11, The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
  I can see the comment and it is showing an icon to indicate that there is a 
 photo there but it just won't show it.

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Re: [lace] Mystery object

[The Lace Bee]

Yes, you are right.  The first link shows the reverse of the object and the 
second link takes you to the Lace Guild main page rather than the front of the 
object.

What an opportunity for any of you who have not yet liked the Lace Guild main 
page to follow the link and link the page (hint hint)

Kind Regards
Liz Baker

 On 4 Feb 2015, at 15:15, Ilske Thomsen ilske.l.thom...@t-online.de wrote:
 
 on the first link I see the reverse side of a painting and on the other a 
 wonderful Gros Point de Venice and some different smaller picture, but 
 nothing mystery.

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Re: [lace] Anna Burda magazine

[The Lace Bee]

Anna Magazine is still published in Germany each month.  Whilst I was over 
there late last year, I bought 4 or 5 issues including the Winter / Xmas 
edition.

 http://www.annacrafts.com/contact  

I found the website above in a quick search on the web although I'm not sure 
how far back they might keep patterns.

I found it interesting that the 2014 Anna magazines still had bobbin lace in 
them.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 29 Jan 2015, at 16:18, Ann-Marie Andersson a-...@telia.com wrote:
 
 I have tried to find the website for
 Burda in Germany but found only the English one.

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Re: [lace] silk threads

[The Lace Bee]

On another thread there was the question about saving used bobbins of thread 
and I mentioned that older threads that I've had have become unstable in time.  
However I have to say that my Piper silks that I bought nearly 12 years ago as 
as stable as the day I bought them.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 28 Jan 2015, at 22:25, Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Beware - once you see the colour and sheen on Piper's threads, you will be 
 hooked!!!

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Re: [lace] Thread management/organisation

[The Lace Bee]

I previously kept thread but discovered that even with careful keeping, most 
thread only has a limited life as I do too.  So the chance of using a some left 
over wound bobbins is very small.

I recently got some cotton thread out that was over 10 years old but had been 
carefully stored.  It wound well but as soon as I put any form of tension on 
it, it simply broke.  

I feel that it is best to use your thread and enjoy it when you can.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 28 Jan 2015, at 20:21, Karen ZM kazama...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anybody got suggestions for dealing with leftover thread from bobbins
 please?

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[lace] Pipers silk help

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders I need your help. 

One of my students ordered some silk thread from Pipers silk before Xmas. It 
still hasn't arrived and she has had problems contacting them

I have emailed them, and got no reply. Today I tried ringing them, and got a 
message saying that my call can't be connected because their equipment is 
switched off.

Do any of you know why this might be happening?

Can you offer any help?

L

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Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] lace jewelry

[The Lace Bee]

I love the photo.  Do we know who made it?

L

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 On 9 Nov 2014, at 07:21, elizabeth pass elizabeth.p...@tesco.net wrote:
 
 Tiny URL
 
 http://tinyurl.com/pr6vys4 
 
 Liz

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Re: [lace] Computer tech help if possible, please

[The Lace Bee]

Standard button hit for full screen on and off is F11

L

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Liz Baker

 On 7 Nov 2014, at 15:59, scotl...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I have phoned my local computer shop but the person there is not familiar with
 Mozilla Firefox.  Somehow my computer has gone into full screen and I lose all
 the directional arrows, bookmarks etc.  The only way to move from one site to
 another is by switching off and then on again.  
 
 My question is does anyone
 know of a key or combination of keys which will restore the status quo?  I waa
 told to try F10 but that doesn't work and I had already tried Escape before
 phoning.
 
 Patricia in Wales
 
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Re: [lace] Updated Christmas Card Exchange Announcement.

[The Lace Bee]

To all the newbies on lace and those who feel that they couldn't possibly share 
their work can I just say that every exchange I have taken part in, I have 
treasured the item I was sent.

I adore every effort regardless of precision, competency or knowledge.  Each 
piece has been made by someone who is passionate about their craft and that is 
what matters.

Please, please take part.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 9 Sep 2014, at 13:02, Avital spind...@gmail.com wrote:

 - last, if you feel uncomfortable sharing your work because you are just 
 beginning, please don't opt out. We will love your work all the more because 
 you tried.
 
 Many Thanks,
 Janet  Sallie

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[lace] Can you help - looking for lace group in Birmingham

[The Lace Bee]

Dear gentle spiders,

I have a newbie who is attending lessons with me but would doesn't live close 
to us so would love to go to a local group for support between lessons.

Can anyone on the list recommend a group?

Thanks

L

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Re: [lace] Can you help - looking for lace group in Birmingham

[The Lace Bee]

Sorry, Birmingham uk

Kind Regards,

Liz Baker

 On 30 Aug 2014, at 16:04, The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 Dear gentle spiders,
 
 I have a newbie who is attending lessons with me but would doesn't live close 
 to us so would love to go to a local group for support between lessons.
 
 Can anyone on the list recommend a group?
 
 Thanks
 
 L
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Liz Baker
 
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Re: [lace] Some gentle ADMIN reminders

[The Lace Bee]

I access my emails through a variety of devices depending on time of day and 
location.  Each device was set up for a particular profile: personal, work etc

Last week, I was testing in Germany and reset my iPads to standard because if I 
replied to an email it came up with my work email, phone number and voice mail, 
on another iPad it had my personal number and on the third it had my home 
number.

My personal phone used to have my personal phone number and home address in my 
sign off but when I changed phones a few days ago I forgot that it would go 
back to the default of 'sent from iPhone'. 

So, yes, I have to now go and add the right phone number to some of my emails 
but that isn't a hardship.

It is easy to change the standard sign off message on your apple product but 
because you have to actively go and change it, it is easy to forget to do.

L

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Liz Baker

 On 26 Aug 2014, at 14:27, jeria...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Another matter,  There are many more messages being Sent from my  iPad   
 We do not care what equipment is used.  It is possible  to suppress this 
 iPad promotion, and a way to set up an automatic  signature line for yourself.

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Re: [lace] Beginner-Intermediate-Advanced

[The Lace Bee]

I like the idea of an international lacemaking standard to remind Lacemakers 
that they are actually rather good.

Too many people suffer from what we call here in the UK 'oh, that old thing' 
syndrome.  You might not have known it had a name but you or someone you know 
probably suffers from it.  You know, you buy an expensive dress, get your hair 
done, new shoes, best make up and when DH or OH compliment you as you leave for 
the evening you reply 'What? This old thing'.

Admit it, we've all done it at sometime or for our gentlemen Lacemakers your OH 
has dine it to you.

I have had the pleasure to meet some fantastic Lacemakers over the years but 
most will put down their abilities. Others who will with patience help you with 
a problem and then tell you that they couldn't teach someone yet when you get 
to know them you realise that they have training skills from work - they are 
normally the person who has to write the instruction book or trains new members 
of staff.

One girl I met claimed that she wasn't really experienced because she only 
produced 1 item of lace every two years.  She was making binche.  Of course she 
was slower than the friend making torchon.

Such lists should not be prescriptive.  I can make tallies, I just hate them so 
I rarely make them but I can make them.  

At work we agree the content of our training (syllabus) with the customer and 
then break it down into what they will learn in which order and what day.  The 
learner knows exactly what they will achieve and what competences they will 
learn.  We work using Blooms Taxonomy which sounds very posh but boils down to 
teaching skills, knowledge and attitude.  Bloom out forward that you assess the 
learner as to what level they are and you can through a learning exercise raise 
them one level at a time (or as a colleague one said, you can't make a silk 
purse out of a sows ear).  If you can't identify where someone is on the scale 
then you can't raise them.in other words you have to quantify what you want to 
do.  Another colleague said that she didn't like a learner's attitude.  When we 
asked what exactly needed to be addressed she said 'we'll I don't like the way 
she looks at me'. Not very quantifiable.  

It's relatively simple to say what a beginner should be able to demonstrate for 
learning as it is all the things to make lace, just as Devon said;

Wind bobbins, set up a simple pattern, angle pins correctly, whole  half 
stitch (or local names) and Understand twists are right over left for threads.  
In addition I would say understand tension - at least know if it right or not.  
You might want to add in weaver knots as Devon said and for me little tips like 
being able to shorten a thread using a pin to roll up but that depends on the 
teacher's knowledge 

A competent beginner I would expect to be able to;
Combine whole  half stitches into a footsie and head side, add a gimp, add in 
extra thread as needed and make a sewing.  If the learner can combine whole and 
half stitch then they can read a pattern book have a go at any stitch they 
fancy.

I also agree again with Devon (I sound like her fan club here) that at this 
stage there are a number of patterns that a learner could complete at 
intermediate level that would be straight forward to do but would look complex 
on completion. And again, advanced would be someone who feels that they have 
gained competence in two or so lace styles or had worked through one style to 
complex levels.

L

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 On 25 Aug 2014, at 18:12, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:
 
 In NJ  there 
 were a lot of people who thought they were beginners, and did not have the  
 courage to take a course calling for intermediate skills when I thought they  
 probably were intermediates.

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Re: [lace] Teaching skills and lace

[The Lace Bee]

The city and guilds teaching certificate is called PTLLS.  These days, in order 
to take this qualification and use it to teach you are supposed to be qualified 
in the subject that you intend to teach.

My understanding is that the city and guilds for lacemaking is no longer run as 
as this was the only qualification in the UK you end up with a circular issue.  

You want to be qualified to teach lace but you can't gain a qualification at 
the right level to take the teaching qualification.  

However, if you are qualified with PTLLS you can apply to any of the awarding 
bodies to  deliver a qualification in lacemaking so long as you are an 
accreditation centre or attached to an accredited centre.  That, of course, 
costs money.  Then to deliver the accreditation course  that you set up you 
need to pay for an IV (internal verifier) to verify that you are delivering to 
standard.  Following that, sample models from each learner are checked by an 
outside auditor from the qualifying body to check that standard are being met.

This all has to be delivered in a timely manner.

So, you can see why as numbers applying for the city and guilds lacemaking 
dropped it stopped being viable to continue with the formal qualification. 

http://www.cityandguilds.com/qualifications-and-apprenticeships/learning/teaching/6302-preparing-to-teach-in-the-lifelong-learning-sector-ptlls#tab=information

You could argue that if you have received certification from the lace guild for 
completing their assessments that this would give you the technical 
qualification to take PTLLS but because it is not delivered to OfQual standards 
it is not recognised.

Catch 22.

In the past, colleges would let you teach lace if you had PTLLS but not a lace 
qualification as they believed that if you could demonstrate a reasonable 
standard in lacemaking and had learnt to teach you could combine the two.   
Something which this debate here has borne out.

L


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 On 24 Aug 2014, at 20:55, Celia Mulhearn po...@me.com wrote:
 
 So - maybe the City and Guilds teaching certificates could be more widely 
 advertised - I certainly enjoyed the experience of the courses, and I am sure 
 I learned a very great deal too.
 

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Re: [lace] Lace teaching

[The Lace Bee]

I have always taught beginners for basically the cost of my travel.  For more 
advanced tuition I charge a little more.  I also encourage newbies to join the 
local group to get support and offer a list of books to work with for 
inspiration.

In addition, for the taster classes that I have been running at local craft 
stores, I have provided all the equipment so the learner simply has to turn up, 
choose some lovely colours and start.

As to age, the last taster session had a lovely young lady of just 7 who had 
better colour coordination than the rest of us.

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 On 25 Aug 2014, at 00:37, Robin D human.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Having vetted teachers at IOLI conventions is one thing, but isn't it part
 of being a member in IOLI to do gratis teaching and demos?  Isn't part of
 loving lace making to try and inspire and encourage as many people as we
 can to take up the art?

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Re: [lace] Teaching lacemaking

[The Lace Bee]

Clay,

My apologies and yes the joy of replying from an iPhone with a small screen and 
predictive text does affect grammar and punctuation (and sometimes unique words 
appear that I didn't mean) which coupled with the fact that as a child of the 
70s British educational system I was not allowed to use punctuation until I was 
14 so sometimes I forget to use it at all.

So my apologies, as perhaps my meaning didn't come across correctly.  

What I was trying to say was that with my background I have the privilege of 
observing good and bad practice and the tools to deconstruct why that works.  
The best teachers seem to always have three qualities:
1. A passion for their subject
2. An ability to connect with the student
3. Patience 

Clay, as you have trained as a teaching professional your reply went through 
and explained the standard deconstruct of VARK (Visual, Auditory, Read/Write 
and Kinestic). I know that there are lots of models on how to teach out there 
but I personally like VARK because it's so easy to use and so effective. A well 
taught teacher or trainer will try each method in turn to match the learner's 
style and a natural teacher (and there are many out there) will also do this.

My husband admits that although he is a qualified teacher he is not a natural 
one and has to plan his lessons carefully to make sure he is inclusive in his 
methods of training.  His biggest challenge is that although extremely 
passionate about his subject he is not naturally a patient man and has to 
remind himself that learners learn at different speeds and have different 
abilities.  Because of his subject, many of his learners have limited 
educational experience and are often daunted by returning to a classroom.  It 
is his job to make that experience welcoming.

I knew a trainer who was very Kinestic - hands on.  Every training session that 
they designed was practical learning but their learners were mainly read / 
write and wanted to know the facts behind the practical.  Every time one of the 
learners asked a question the trainer would simple reply 'well, why do you 
think it does that'.  The poor learners realised that the trainer either didn't 
know or couldn't explain so stopped asking.  Then after about 6 months, they 
stopped booking training.  When you are a paid trainer for a large company, 
having no delegates is a bit of an issue.

My point with the GBS quote was that for many years people have fallen under 
that spell of thinking that anyone can pass on knowledge.  The key being if you 
know more than the learner then you will be fine.  But it's a myth.  The first 
inspirational teacher I met was when I was 7 and learnt the guitar.  He was 
actually 2 lessons ahead of me in the same book.  But by learning at the same 
time as me he was deconstructing the learning experience and then 
reconstructing it for me.  That grounding has done me well.  I am a natural 
guitar player but it is combined with a good knowledge of music theory and 
guitar theory.  I know how to and why and even now when I don't practice as 
much as I should, I can pick up my guitar and sight read music because it 
became a part of me through the teaching.  

Back in the late 90s I was rather ill and didn't do anything really for about 6 
months. As I recovered I discovered I had no patience for anything and 
certainly no sustained levels of concentration. So I (perhaps foolishly) 
thought that going back to lacemaking was the answer.  I realised then that the 
second person who taught me (in the early 90s) although not a trained teacher, 
was perhaps the best skills teacher I'd met.  Each time I had hit a problem she 
would tell me that it was common and we would together trace back to where the 
error had started and talk about the options to put it right.  She installed in 
me the maximum 'can you live with it' if yes, carry on, if no, make your lace 
backwards.  I undid my return lace time and time again and was happy doing it 
because that teacher had installed in me the passion to make, the knowledge to 
do it and the patience to achieve it.

Most of all, she made me feel as though I could do it.

So again Clay, my apologies and I should not email whilst trying to board a 
plane and I must proof read on the iPhone.  

I often get work emails where I'm not sure if the person is being supportive or 
sarcastic.  Because emails is so conversational sometimes it doesn't flow like 
a letter should.

Even the iPad tried to change concentration in to condensation just now ... 
That would have brought a whole new level of confusion to the debate.

And note to self - punctuation, punctuation, punctuation.

L

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 On 23 Aug 2014, at 03:52, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I take offense to this on a number of levels.  I'm going to overlook the typos
 and grammatical errors as part of this crazy internet communication system!
 However,  lacemaking is an artistic skill.  Artists do not think like 

Re: [lace] contributing

[The Lace Bee]

Some people really do run close to being hit in the face. 

I've just finished teaching anew group. We have made Christine springett's 
snake and two if the ladies want to make something big. I want to keep the 
enthusiasm, teach them new techniques and let them make something they want so 
we are breaking the big project into smaller bits so they, most if all, enjoy 
themselves. 

Some people should not be allowed to teach but do. I heard of one teach who 
slapped learner if they did something she didn't approve of. She would have 
slapped me only once.

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 On 21 Aug 2014, at 22:32, Bertrans1 bertra...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 She looked at what I was doing  picked up my scissors  cut all the bobbins 
 off my pillow.

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Re: [lace] Criticism and teachers

[The Lace Bee]

When I started to learn hypnotism my trainer said that the best hypnotists were 
school teachers. A good teacher would mesmerise you with how they talked.  Your 
recall of facts and processes would be outstanding because they just seemed to 
explain in a way that you got. Their patience in repeating something was 
unlimited, so no matter how long it took, you never felt stupid but that they 
had all the time in the world. 

He then said that the worst teachers in the world were also the best hypnotists 
because just 15 minutes with remand you believed that you were;

1 stupid
2 wothless
3 would amount to nothing
4 might as we'll kill yourself now to prevent your DNA  going forward on the 
universe 

A bit ifs generalisation but certainly based on experience

L

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 On 22 Aug 2014, at 00:51, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote:
 
 But some, when given robust criticism, feel that it is a confirmation that I 
 can't do anything right, that Mom was right when she said I was stupid and 
 cow-handed, here is the proof.

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Re: [lace] Teaching antics

[The Lace Bee]

What many teachers forget is that people are buying a service from  them and as 
such are their customers

If I was abused in a shop by the person I wasn't young from I would vote with 
my feet and complain to the manager. 

We are often too nice to those who bully or fail to provide the level of 
service expected because we just want together away and not make a scene 

On the flip side, if someone has paid me to learn I will be honest if they are 
wasting their money. I taught one lady who had no talent at all for lacemaking. 
Each session she had lost all the progress that that she had made in the 
session before. In the end, I suggested she stopped paying and had 3 free 
lessons. If she made no progress at end of those we would part company. She 
admitted that she wasn't enjoying it and finally spoke with me about pressures 
at home which were taking up her thoughts. So we took a teaching holiday with 
the promise of a couple offerer sessions when she felt she had time to take it 
up again.  

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 On 22 Aug 2014, at 02:31, L. E. Weiss weiss@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Sallie, I hope you reported the antics of that teacher who cut your bobbins.

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[lace] To post or not to post

[The Lace Bee]

I've spent the past week seeing all the posts to Jeri in support of the work 
she does and it made me think that it says more about the person who made the 
comment than Jeri's behaviour.

In this life there are people who think that the bench mark for the world is 
the life that they live.  If they don't watch something, it's not worth 
watching.  If they don't like a food, it's not worth eating.

Many years ago I met a man on a training course.  He was outraged that each 
night he had to read material for the next day.  He turned to the tutor and 
said in an indignant voice I haven't read a book or magazine since I left 
school and I'm not going to start now just for you'

The tutor quietly replied; 'that's your choice but i can't guarantee that I 
will cover all the material that is contained in Friday's test so I'm giving 
you the opportunity to gain extra knowledge that might help you pass.  It 
doesn't matter to me if you pass the test or not but of course, your continuing 
employment is based on you passing the test.'

A few yeas later I was delivering a course with that same tutor and I reminder 
her of that conversation.  She remarked that many people feel they are entitled 
to dictate what other people do simple because they didn't want to do it 
themselves but all actions have consequences.  That guy could say he didn't 
want to read and the only person affected as him.

If Jeri stops writing her posts the person who made that comment now affects 
all of us who have written in support of Jeri.  I now know things that I didn't 
before because of Jeri.  I have used her tips for conservation of the few 
vintage items I have and helped friends with her advice.

L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

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Re: [lace] Follow up on stains email (2)

[The Lace Bee]

Beware as hydrogen peroxide is a bleach and can also damage fabrics. Basically 
it's what used to be used to put blonde highlights in hair

L

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 On 12 Jul 2014, at 12:42, Cynce Williams cyncewilli...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
 Try hydrogen peroxide first. I've seen it recommended in books.
 Cynthia

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking on BBC

[The Lace Bee]

Oohs, I can say that I knew you when you were merely chief bobbin of the ISIS 
lace group.  Oh the prestige to hang out with a celebrity.

L

PS anything which gets lacemaking and hand made crafts on TV wins my vote.  So 
pleased that which ever production company made this had the foresight to 
include someone who is not only talented in lacemaking, has a fantastic way 
about them in their teaching and who comes over so well when talking to people. 
 Really positive

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 On 28 Jun 2014, at 07:48, Christine Lardner christinelard...@hotmail.com 
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 Yesterday I was filmed by the BBC making lace, for an episode of Celebrity 
 Antiques Road Trip. 
 The program is due to be broadcast next spring.
 Christine Lardner (Oxford 

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Re: [lace] Fan sticks

[The Lace Bee]

I think that it is more likely after the opera singer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Lind

The children's hospital in Norwich is also named after her as she gave charity 
concerts to raise money to found the hospital

http://www.nnuh.nhs.uk/Page.asp?ID=307

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 On 13 May 2014, at 21:42, Sue Harvey 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
 Is it named after the nurse Jenny Lind?

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Re: [lace] de-fuzzing lace in progress?

[The Lace Bee]

I was told to lace away and the remove the offending at hairs with a pair of 
tweezers.  This does work with torchon (but is boring as hell). However with 
plaited laces such as beds it is virtually impossible.  So I now use my very 
expensive clothes brush almost exclusively to brush my pillow before I start 
(cashmere side of the brush which is why it was costly and I have no cashmere 
at the moment) and always cover the pillow, when not in use, with a large scarf 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

 On 4 May 2014, at 21:31, Beth McCasland bmccs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Gentle Spiders,
 Yesterday while I was making lace with some friends, I noticed that despite
 careful use of cover clothes, my cats have managed to add their fur to the
 lace.  In spring their fine fur seems to float everywhere  The cats
 have not been laying on my lace pillow.

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Re: [lace] Lace with and without an end use

[The Lace Bee]

Initially, when I first started to make lace, I chose a project for one of two 
reasons.

a) because it taught me technique that I wanted to learn.
b) because I was going to give it to my mum.

With mum's passing, earlier this year, it brought me up sharp just how often I 
made a piece for mum. 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

 On 5 May 2014, at 09:23, lacel...@frontier.com lacel...@frontier.com 
 wrote:
 
 I do both types of lacemaking.  I have given away laces specifically made for
 exchanges, weddings, birthdays, Christmas, conference decorations and raffles,
 etc.  Sometimes it's specifically for me -- a scarf, collar. or motif.  I
 don't wear much lace on my everyday clothes, but will wear a dainty scarf or a
 collar to church or special occasion.  I'm currently making a tablecloth just
 for myself.  I'm guessing the cats will be gone by the time I get it finished,
 so it will be safe to have it on my table.
 
 On the other hand, I love to try
 different kinds of lace and interesting patterns.  I make a lot of items just
 for the fun of trying the pattern.  There's a variety of projects that were
 started in a class, and have not been finished.  Some will be, but some will
 be cut off if I decide I'm no longer interested.  Many of these projects have
 ended up on a display board that I take to demos.
 
 Hint:  Most of you are
 familiar with the commercial display board that's 24 x 48 with 12 inch flaps
 folded in on both sides.  If you take a sharp knife or cutting blade and score
 a line between the two flaps, down the center of the big board -- and only
 through the inside surface layer, the board will fold backwards right in the
 middle.  This gives you four connected surfaces, each 12 x 48.  The folded
 form 12x48x2 inches is much easier to transport than the 24x48 form,
 especially when it's windy.  I put an elastic strap around it so it stays
 firmly closed during transport.  Actually, I have three of these boards now,
 so I can take just one or all to a demo, depending on space allotted.
 
 Alice
 in Oregon -- where I'm working on a butterfly pattern from an old 'Kant'
 magazine.
 
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Re: [lace] Lace App questions on Bruges Duchesse or Bruges Flower lace

[The Lace Bee]

Over the years, this has come up on a regular basis.  One camp of lace makers 
will say, but Jose people who learnt honiton in the 1700s never learnt torchon. 
 And they are right.  But they didn't attend classes for a few hours at a time, 
 they were taught lacemaking from an early age and time spent was almost the 
same as a modern day apprentice would recognise - hours spent studying the 
making and practicing.

There is a lot to be said for starting with laces that work in geometrical 
patterns as these are easy to see the next steps and understand where you have 
made a mistake before it goes too far.  But as one who made yards of what I can 
only describe as bandages for worms (0.5cm wide pieces of lace) to demonstrate 
that I understood what I was doing, I became disenchanted with the whole thing 
because after 4 months I had nothing recognisable to show for my efforts.  We 
now have some outstanding patterns and books available that can inspire new 
Lacemakers to make things that build up quickly and yet teach you the basics.

I adore using Christine Springett's snake pattern because it uses really robust 
thread (gold dust and coton perle) so no broken threads and teaches good 
tension, whole / cloth stitch and also how to twist and make a sewing. Using 
colour threads allow the newbie to check that they haven't muddled their 
bobbins too.  But any pattern that uses robust threads would be perfect for me 
as a teaching aid because there is nothing more frightening to a new lacemaker 
than a broken thread.  The other advantage is that this pattern can be made and 
mastered for a complete novice in just two evening or half day sessions.  

For me, the heartbreaking thing was when I brought a book and came bouncing in 
to my lesson saying I really anted to make a small piece of lace as a present 
for my mother; for her dolls house.  My teacher sneered at me that it would 
take months if not year before I could even start to think about it.  I left 
the lessons and joined a local group.  I showed the same pattern to a member 
there and she suggested two or three pieces from the same book to make that 
would teach me the skills to make the piece I wanted.  Three months later I had 
made it.

It's about finding the right way to get your pupil to the point they can do 
what they want.



Kind Regards

Liz Baker

 On 24 Apr 2014, at 17:49, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I can identify with your friend who is just starting, and is drawn to Bruges 
 Flower  Lace!  I think we are all drawn to beautiful laces and would like to 
 just jump right in and do it!

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Re: [lace] Stunned

[The Lace Bee]

There is another piece on sale from this seller 

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/400657718058?nav=SEARCH

Worrying 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker
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 On 12 Feb 2014, at 12:54, janefr...@gmail.com janefr...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-VINTAGE-HONITON-LACE-PICTURE-HAND-MADE-IN-
 SCOTLAND-TERN-SEA-BIRD-NICE-/400605011027

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Re: [lace] re:stunned

[The Lace Bee]

A friend who dealt in antiques said that 25 years makes vintage and 50 antique. 
This was told to me in the80s so it seemed right that 50s items were vintage. 
However I find it strange to think of 70s items as vintage. I tend to try not 
to think about the 70s at all!!!

L

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Liz Baker

 On 12 Feb 2014, at 21:28, Susan Vossier susan.voss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I looked up 'vintage' in wordreference.com, and they define it as from the
 70's, as opposed to antique!

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Re: [lace] (Fwd) Query from David

[The Lace Bee]

I'm now thinking it must be the opium wars of the 1860s 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker
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 On 17 Dec 2013, at 06:58, The Lacebee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 1895 was the first Sino-Japanese war.  Although fought between China and 
 Japan, other countries effect involved to some effect because of the Opium 
 trade and this was part of the build up to the famous 55 days in Peking in 
 1900 and the Boxer rebellion

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Re: [lace] Teaching children

[The Lace Bee]

I was lucky enough to demonstrate with my local group at a recent 'county' 
event.  One of the group brought a 'have a go' pillow along and we asked anyone 
passing if they would like to try lacemaking.

Adults and children alike tried the pillow.  The adults would do a row and stop 
but the children wanted to keep going and had to be politely pulled away by 
their parents.

There is something in lacemaking that children and young adults seem to be able 
to pick up quickly.

I believe that no person who shows an interest in lacemaking should be turned 
away but I passionate believe that unless we can start lessons and clubs for 
children and young adults we will see this craft die in the next 10 to 20 
years. 

Focusing on those who are retiring early, as was suggested to me because they 
have time and disposable income, is pointless in the UK as early retirement is 
becoming harder and harder.  So this group is diminishing too.

We must find a way to not merely super young Lacemakers but to actively 
increase them.  

I'm working with my local fibre store to run Saturday workshops for young 
adults.  It gives us a ready made venue which is public and safe and not school 
nights easier to attend.  I'm happy if we get new Lacemakers under the age of 
25 and as  we are a university town we have a big population in that 
demographic that we can pull on 

Kind Regards

Liz Baker
 

On 7 Jul 2013, at 06:51, alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote:

 Hi Lyn
 
 Re: Subject: [lace] Ancillary to Teaching Lace to Children
 
 Teaching lace to children is part of the survival of lacemaking.  I have
 always thought that lacemaking, especially geometric Torchon, has the ability 
 to help the mind work mathematically..

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

[The Lace Bee]

I also meant to say that when I fall asleep and hit myself in the face with the 
iPad it hurts more than when I do that with even a hardback book.

L

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace] books vs kindle

[The Lace Bee]

I have an iPad and iBooks tend to be pdf in format for this reader.  However, I 
was able to download a free kindle app from the AppStore to allow me to access 
kindle books.

I think that amazon have realised that they need to make their ebooks available 
to other platforms so they opened up access.  However, if you have bought a 
ebook reader (such as kindle) rather than a tablet (such as an iPad) it is 
unlikely that you will be able to add software to read other formats.  This has 
been one of the reasons people looked at buying tablets.

However, WH Smiths in the UK have their own ebook reader kobo which you can buy 
for 1/10 of the cost of a tablet such as an iPad.  It is that cheap that it the 
cost of 4or 5 hardback books which makes people think that it is worth buying.

But I also use my iPad to access e-ink version of my print magazines such as 
good food, gardener's world and knitting and crochet magazines which are not 
always available on other platforms (or ebook readers)

L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 20 May 2013, at 12:31, Ilske Thomsen ilske.l.thom...@t-online.de wrote:

 
 Kindle is a brandmark and is connected with amazon. And this is in my opinion 
 a problem, you can bye e.books only from them. 
 
 

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Re: [lace] books vs kindle

[The Lace Bee]

I find ebooks great for crochet because they are following written instructions 
but because I have an iPad but not an apple computer printing becomes a problem 
as you loose resolution between screen shot and printing.

If the original is a pdf then this does make it easier but you have to ensure 
with PDFs when you print the pattern for lace, that the pattern size doesn't 
change because reared are you printing on patter that is the same size the 
book.  I first had this problem when went a pattern from the US electronically 
- it was sized for letter paper and I printed on a4.  Luckily it was obvious 
that the pattern had side.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 19 May 2013, at 07:35, J D Hammett jdhamm...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi arachnids,
 
 Lace diagrams are not quite as easy to follow on the e-readers. Can one 
 photocopy a diagram? 
 
 Joepie, East Sussex, UK
 
 

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Re: [lace] Facebook page

[The Lace Bee]

Anna,

The following groups are a selection of what is available worldwide, some you
just join, others you have to ask to join.  You may need to copy and paste the
urls below

Groups
- bobbin Lacemakers https://www.facebook.com/groups/bobbinlacemakers/
- L.A.C.E.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/117579804958144/
- Lacemakers. https://www.facebook.com/groups/30338026304/
- Knipling (Danish). https://www.facebook.com/groups/31888320377/
- Encajeras Bolilleras (Spanish i believe)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/encajeras.bolilleras/
- My Tatting Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/201613006516412/
- Encaje de Bolillos (Spanish I believe).
https://www.facebook.com/groups/287177644680593/
- Ladies who make lace (Spanish)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/270984303151/

Information
- Maria Biassacco (lacemaker)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilmondodimariabissacco/



Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 13 May 2013, at 00:59, Anna Binnie l...@binnie.id.au wrote:

 Can anyone out there tell me the name or url of the facebook lace page.
 I've just joined one for quilting an am having a ball.

 Anna from a cloudy Sydney

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Re: [lace] Exciting find

[The Lace Bee]

A word of warning on these records.  

The records me held as paper for all armed forces but a few years a go there 
was a fire at the records office (Hayes Middlesex) and many papers got burned, 
destroyed or singed.

When you do a search you will see what has been scanned to date.  For example, 
my father requested his father's service records and these are there to see 
because they were micro Fisched when he made his request even though the 
original were mainly destroyed in the fire.  But his records are not on yet.

The Aussie's father's records are not on line.

So just because there is nothing returned doesn't mean that there is nothing.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 12 May 2013, at 09:03, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com wrote:

 Jean, the website you are referring to is that of the National Archives
 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Home/OnlineCollections
 
 Just type the name in and see what comes up.  Put inverted commas around the 
 full name to stop the search engine from searching on each word.  But, Name 
 Surname will not find Name Second-name Surname  and vice versa.
 

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Re: [lace] Exciting find!

[The Lace Bee]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_squadrons_and_flotillas_of_the_Royal_Nav
y

Have a look at this link.  I believe that British 8th Navy is a truncation due
to space and may be any of the 8th's referenced in this link

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 11 May 2013, at 18:09, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote:

 Last weekend, I attended the North Carolina Regional Lacers' Spring Lace
Day.  As always, it was great fun!..there was an area for lacemakers to sell
lacemaking supplies they no longer use.  A friend was there, selling the last
of the things from Betty Ann Rice.  I glanced into a box of old bobbins, and a
spangle caught my eye...   could it be?

 It was a tiny bone spy glass...  And yes!  It was a Stanhope!  The image was
barely visible, but I was very excited to find it.  The amazing thing is that
so many people had been through those bobbins in the past year and no one else
had noticed it.  I suppose our discussion last week about Stanhopes was fresh
in my mind, so I knew it when I saw it.

 After getting home with it and looking at it carefully, I realized the lens
was coated with grime.  After carefully cleaning it, I can now see four
drawings with titles!  There is King's Road, The Aquarium, Palace Pier,
and The Beach.  There appear to be two other pictures below the four, but
all that is visible are the tops of the drawings.

 Any ideas where these places are?  The bobbin has British 8th Navy written
on it with the name of someone who died in 1981.

 Clay

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Re: [lace] scarf bobbin

[The Lace Bee]

A couple of things that I have learnt the hard way from working on patterns 
from Jacquie Barbers; tradition into creation.

If the thread tries very hard to slip off the bobbin she recommends using a 
small springy hair clip; a smaller version of the things you clip long hair up 
with.  They are about £2 for 6 in the supermarket and cheaper on market stalls

Secondly, you have to see which way the yarn is spun.  I wound all my bobbins 
as though I was using cotton or linen and some of the lace weight wools simple 
snapped because they had been spun in the opposite direction to cotton and were 
undoing themselves as I went.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 29 Apr 2013, at 15:11, lacel...@frontier.com wrote:

 When I make a scarf with yarns, I use my largest Belgian or Danish bobbins.  
 - Original Message -
 From: Karen Zammit Manduca kazama...@gmail.com
 ... what bobbins would you recommend I use for a fairly thick yarn to make a 
 scarf or shawl? I need to use something that can hold lots of yarn because 
 I'm sure knots would show.
 Karen in Malta
 
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Re: [lace] Machine made

[The Lace Bee]

This type of loom is called a jacquard loom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquard_loom

The concept of how it works was the bases for punch card and tape reading
computers in the 60s and 70s

L

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Liz Baker

On 27 Apr 2013, at 17:23, David Collyer dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

 The cards with holes that the machines use are called punch cards and
 and
 this system was used to control many machines before comuters could be
 used to
 control them. I always say that lace prickings were the original 'punch
 cards', more in fun than meaning it, but who knows?

 Dear Friends,
 I am writing this from my hotel room in Saigon. Those cards were being
 used by the weavers I saw last year in Varanasi, India
 David in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

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Re: [lace] Graph paper/Needle lace

[The Lace Bee]

Janice,

Over here it is referred to as architect's linen.  When I started making
bobbin lace in the late 80s it was on its way out in drawing offices and my
dad has a small supply which he was begrudgingly thinking if letting me have.
He was very relieved when he found out it was for needle lace and I didn't use
it.

I only knew of one place in London that used to do it; a specialist art and
graphic shop in Covent garden which is now long gone.  In the uk I would think
that somewhere like Cornelissen might be able to stock it.


Quite frankly, whether they do or don't if you are ever up near the British
Museum it is worth going there.  You get the feeling that if you turn around
quickly you will catch Turner buying his pigments.  It's all wood panels and
drawers  like an archaic chemists.

http://www.cornelissen.com/

L

Kind Regards

Liz Baker



Kind Regards

Liz Baker
On 21 Apr 2013, at 17:30, Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Well, you must all have thought I was a dummy not knowing what graph paper
was.
 Of course I did, and after all the replies, we all know where we can get it
 from.  Thank you everyone.

 What I should have asked was what Catherine used on her base, i.e. the blue
 paper, which might be something to do with architecture.
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Re: [lace] Graph paper/Needle lace

[The Lace Bee]

I just searched Cornelissen and they don't stock architects linen so I did a
search on google and found a thread on obtaining it from our own archives.

http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg34937.html



Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 22 Apr 2013, at 00:25, The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Janice,

 Over here it is referred to as architect's linen.  When I started making
 bobbin lace in the late 80s it was on its way out in drawing offices and my
 dad has a small supply which he was begrudgingly thinking if letting me
have.
 He was very relieved when he found out it was for needle lace and I didn't
use
 it.


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Re: [lace] What kind of lace is this?

[The Lace Bee]

I would agree as the two main laces of that period were reticle la and punto in 
aria (which I think predictive text has just changed the name of again but it's 
late and I'm too tired to fight).

So, I'd say Reticella.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 7 Apr 2013, at 23:59, lbuy...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I will stick my neck out and say that I think it looks like Reticella too.  
 What does everyone else think?
 Liz R, Raleigh, NC
  Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
 I did find one picture with beautiful lace...Portrait of a Woman by 
 Cornelis 
 Janssen van Ceulen, painted in 1619.  I think it's Reticella, but not sure. 
 
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Re: [lace] eyesight

[The Lace Bee]

Another option is a magnifier / lamp - my father bought one of these and it
helped him through the last 4 years of loosing his sight (he still uses it to
cut his finger nails).  His one had a shutter that came over the lens so it
didn't set fire to anything and you could change out the lens for a stronger
one if you wanted.

Once he was registered blind he got the products at a reduced rate because of
tax exemption.

http://uk.daylightcompany.com/product/7-magnifying-lamp/

Usual disclaimer - no interest in the company just a happy user.

Kind Regards

Liz Baker

On 3 Apr 2013, at 15:14, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

 Chantal,

 My problem, right eye sight, I need to have my pillow, very close to my
face.

 Having read that I am wondering whether you might find a Magvu
 easier. This is a magnifier which sits about 10cm out from your eyes
 and can go over glasses and you can still watch TV over the top of
 it. It comes with X2 and X4 lenses. I think it might be Australian
 made, but you can buy it online through the website below. I used
 mine for years but these days my eyes seemed to have improved enough
 not to need it.
 Hope it works for you


http://ilcaustralia.org.au/products/4696http://ilcaustralia.org.au/products
/4696


 David in Ballarat, AUS

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