Re: [lace] pillow stands
Most of what has been described have been tables. I have several of those mentioned in the correspondence. But the stand I prefer, especially for travel, is not a table but a stand. It was given to me by Jeannette Van Ord in the Netherlands and is the kind that is used in Bruges and many other places in that part of the world. It is basically an adjustable column: the inner length slides up and down inside a case and is held in place by a nail thrust through holes. There is a simple cross piece at the top of the inner column, and it has a flat base attached to the outer case on which to rest the feet and hold the whole thing steady. This exactly describes the stand I use. I purchased mine in Bruges some years ago. It came from an old family run business - whose name I cannot for the life of me remember though I think it could have been something like Charlakins? As I recall they sold mainly menswear and also various items used by lacemakers. Diana in Northants where spring dipped its toe in the water yesterday and decided to go back to bed till it got warmer! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Pillow stands
Hello Katelyn and everyone There are some really nice purpose built lace tables out there, the Tablemate folding table is popular too. I have space, and a room with good light for lace etc. (there is lots of 'etc.'). I use a plain office table where I can spread out all my lace gear. I find that a small table is too confining. I can shut the door on the lace project ready to come back to, without having to put away and take out again later. You will probably get lots of different answers :) On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.comwrote: a little slant. Now that we are in a house I suddenly have much more space, and could set up on a small table or get a full stand. What do you reccomend? -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Pillow stands
I have two pillow tables and one collapses much better than the other. For the collapsable one, it's something like a snare drum stand, but made of wood. The other stand is more like a table, round top that slants. Can send photos this evening is needed. Beth McCasland Seattle -- Beth Sent from this little messenger --Original Message-- From: Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.com To: lace@arachne.com Date: Tue, Mar 13, 12:50 PM -0400 Subject: [lace] Pillow stands Hello everyone, I am wondering what everyone is using as a pillow stand for a cookie pillow. Do you have a freestanding prop only used for your pillow, or do you make all your lace with the pillow propped up on the kitchen table? If you have a prop for use on a table, did you make it or buy it? At my apartment we were really wanting for space, so my pillow rested on my lap when in use, and I would roll up a t-shirt under the pillow to give it a little slant. Now that we are in a house I suddenly have much more space, and could set up on a small table or get a full stand. What do you reccomend? Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Pillow stands
I've been through a variety of stands through the years. It is most important that the chair to table height fits yourself. Propping the pillow on something and having it rest on your lap is one way to get the working surface at a usable height. The shoulders should be relaxed, upper arms hanging down, and elbows bent about 90 degrees. It's like the recommended working height and posture for typing. When I first started, my teacher suggested using a TV Tray. It was lower than the normal table, and would fold up for transport if needed. That works fine with some chairs, but is too tall for other chairs. I then got an adjustable folding stand from Kenn Van Dieren. That worked fine until I went to IOLI conference and needed to be able to put it in a suitcase. I then got one made that was three inches shorter so it fit my largest suitcase. But being shorter, it's comfortable only with short chairs. There are several different stands around that fold, and are intended for cookie pillows. Then the adjustable Rubbermaid tables came on the market. It has been a favorite at home since the height can vary with chairs or pillows, and is a bit larger surface to hold accessories. It also folds to take to demos. The Rubbermaid, or similar barnd, table adjusts to four heights, and is flat. There's another adjustable table with L shaped legs that has to be carefully checked out. I got one that can't be adjusted flat. It was an imitation of the original table and, though cheap, was a bad buy. Buy from a reputable company and watch the bargains carefully. The ultimate in a table that's easy to transport to classes, meetings, demos, etc., is the Instand Portable Computer table. (No connection to the company, just a satisfied customer.) It comes in two sizes. It has a flat tray top, and a set of folding legs that come in a bag about 3 x 2 x 12. It doesn't take much room in a bag or suitcase, quick to set up and take down, has a non-skid top so the pillow doesn't slide off, and can be set up on a slant if desired. It is expensive so cost must be considered. For practical use, I like the Rubbermaid variety best. For travel, I like the Instand. For cost, the plastic tables would be least expensive (under $20) with folding wooden stands next (under $100) and the Instand most expensive ($120+). Of course, if you want to go really deluxe, I've seen fine furniture round tables with adjustable height and ability to slant. There could be other tables around that would also serve the purpose. I have a manicure table that I had shortened 4 inches that is a favorite. The legs fold up for transport but it is heavy. I only take it when I'm doing multiple days of demo (county fair). I make most of my lace in the living room while the TV is on. (I have this odd idea that I should spend part of each day in the same room with DH.) My table is designated to whatever project I'm doing that day, usually lace, and not used by DH for anything. Use whatever works for you, and expect to try different methods with different pillows or projects. I have even worked lace in a recliner chair with a small cushion propping up the far side of my pillow. Doesn't work with all projects but it does with some. Alice in Oregon... hoping to stay home on this wet, snowy, windy day. - Original Message - From: Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.com I am wondering what everyone is using as a pillow stand for a cookie pillow. Do you have a freestanding prop only used for your pillow, or do you make all your lace with the pillow propped up on the kitchen table? If you have a prop for use on a table, did you make it or buy it? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Pillow stands
The tablemate is a wonderful table to travel with. But if you're flying, be sure to get the small one. There is a larger one, but it weighs more and may not fit in your suitcase. I've bought several of them while they were on sale a various times, and have enough to lend to other lacemakers when they come to my house to make lace! Clay On 3/13/2012 1:46 PM, bev walker wrote: Hello Katelyn and everyone There are some really nice purpose built lace tables out there, the Tablemate folding table is popular too. I have space, and a room with good light for lace etc. (there is lots of 'etc.'). I use a plain office table where I can spread out all my lace gear. I find that a small table is too confining. I can shut the door on the lace project ready to come back to, without having to put away and take out again later. You will probably get lots of different answers :) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Pillow stands
Yes, your cat would dump your pillow off a table that sizemine did. I was using a TV tray table, about the same size as a Tablemate and the pillow extended beyond the table. My cat tried to use it as a stepping stone to the cat tower. He got yelled at, but my pillow was still upside down. Since you have such a critter around, you might want to look for a slightly larger table that can support the whole pillow (and the cat also, if necessary.) Generally, the Tablemates are considered good -- sturdy enough for a lace pillow. It's nice for transporting because it folds up and is not really heavy. Be sure it's a real Tablemate, though. There are some knockoff tables that aren't as good. I got caught with one of those. The tabletop does not fasten so it's flat. There's always a slant so things slide off. And it's harder to adjust the legs. You want to be able to adjust the table without six tools and a strongman. The lacemakers here like the adjustable table made by Rubbermaid or Lifetime with a table size about 20 x 30.. It adjusts to four different heights, and is very sturdy. My cat leaps on and off it without any problem. It's great for local demos but would not travel on a plane to a conference. It doesn't fold up as small as a Tablemate and would not fit in a suitcase. Consider carefully just how you would use the table. where and when. Then get the table that best suits your own purposes. Alice in Oregon - Original Message From: Beth Marshall b...@capuchin.co.uk To: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 12:39:29 AM Subject: [lace] Pillow stands (was: larger pillows) Tamara's reference to the Table-mate reminds me of a question I'd been meaning to ask: The Table-mate available on Amazon UK has a usable surface 22 wde by 16.75 deep, so my 18/20/22 pillows would overhang the back of the table. Given that once bobbins are hung in the weight of the pillow is more at the front of the pillow than the back, would one of these tables be stable with a large pillow on? Has anyone tried one and found out? (And what might happen when my fairly heavy young cat jumps onto the back of the pillow to help? Though ending up on the floor under a fairly heavy pillow a couple of times should cure even Silly Sid of leaping before he looks!) Beth Cheshire, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] pillow stands
I have got the ordinary 'shelf' type fitments that consist of two metal strips with slots in screwed to the wall. The triangular brackets that the shelf itself fits on are available in lots of sizes (for different shelf widths) and I use those for the pillows - without a shelf first. The brackets slot easily into the strips and can be altered to different spacings to suit different pillow combinations. They are fitted from the top of a set of drawers to the ceiling so they are in what would otherwise be wasted space. Even my biggest pillow (24) sits securely at the top on 15 brackets; because it's close to the ceiling it can't tip off. And I have bought all of them at carboot sales so the total investment to store about 10 pillows was in the region of £5. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] pillow stands
You can find examples at www.bobbinmaker.com/restarea.html I have made a number of these and have learned a few tricks along the way. I would be willing to pass those on to your carpenter if you would like. ** Bobbins by Van-Dieren Kenn Van-Dieren 2304 Clifford Avenue Rochester, Ny 14609 Tel: 585.654.5711 Cell: 585.750.8842 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: www.bobbinmaker.com * - Original Message - From: Paul and Dona Bushong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:13 PM Subject: [lace] pillow stands I have some questions regarding pillow stands. Not the individual kind but the shelf style ones that will hold multiple pillows so that they are stacked one above the other but not on top of each other. Hopefully that's clear. Does anyone know if there are there pictures of these anywhere on the internet? I have the chance to have one of these made for me but along with my drawings the person would also like to see an example of one already made. Also if anyone has one of these, can you tell me if there is anything about yours that you do not like and would change or if there is anything that made it particularly attractive over another? I think I have in my mind what I want but I want to make sure that it's not tippy and that I've not missed something obvious before the cutting begins. Thanks, Dona in Asan, Guam where the winter rains have gone away for the day and we have a nice warm breeze blowing the windchimes. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] pillow stands
See this list is made up of the nicest people...we are so lucky, BarbE snip From: kenn van dieren I have made a number of these and have learned a few tricks along the way. I would be willing to pass those on to your carpenter if you would like. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]