from:"Richard Ellis"

Re: smile

2021-04-27 Thread Richard Ellis

I have  read the replies and I think it a very very sad day when folk can't 
take a joke.
Richard

On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 10:53:59 PM UTC+1 aussiman wrote:

> If the price of lumber keeps going up?
>
>  
>
> Smile guys
>

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Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table

2021-04-11 Thread Richard Ellis

What I did, was to drill a hole dead center of the table and have a rod 
about 8 inches long with a point at one end and a knob at the other end.The 
rod a nice tight fit.  and also to make 
 sure it did not slip I glued a rare earth magnet under the table. That 
just touched the rod
The bit of wood had a small indent underneath . Now when I used hot melt 
glue,the rod protruding above the table I did not have to worry about where 
the wood will slide to. The resistance of the magnet will keep it in place 

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 4:46:55 AM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:

> Tim,
> I think what Curtis is pointing out is:
> You may have marked DEAD Center on the Rotary Table - BUT, if you don't 
> have that point *perfectly* in line with the center line of the LOM, when 
> you start milling (cutting rosettes), that slight misalignment will make 
> itself known to you quickly.
> Be Safe & do Good!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Tim Ziegler 
> Sent: Apr 10, 2021 11:38 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: finding DEAD center on Rotary Table 
>
> Thanks Curt,
>
> Ok that all sounds good then finding the center to start your rosette is 
> the challenge. 
> I even started with center lines and set the bit in the exact dead center 
> so I thought. h. 
> better sleep on it. lol its getting late here. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:30 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> I have found the easiest way for me, is to use the "drill center hole" 
>> idea.  Then use a pointer mounted in the router of the Legacy. and align 
>> the table and the router, then you can use that for your 0 mark/ reference 
>> point, Once this table and Router are aligned you can touch off any know 
>> point, to take you measurements from.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> --
>> On Saturday, April 10, 2021, 11:13:34 PM EDT, timjz...@gmail.com <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> Ok all you rosette guru's or rotary table users,
>> I have a question and I want some serious input
>> here on my subject. My whole WoodCraft Ind. career
>> I worked in the tool room as a Tooling Tech, so with
>> that said I worked with 10/thousands and even tighter
>> tolerances much lick anyone out there that is a machinist.
>> Ok so my point is even with cross marks on my table and
>> lining up a perfectly square piece with corners to lines 
>> Its still hard to find dead center. Now I have considered
>> boring a centering hole in my work piece but should not
>> have too. I also find the center of my work piece and center
>> the bit. So my point is I have a lot of skill centering but
>> some how I am not always hitting the center. 
>> Yes I have a square work piece. 
>> What are some of your secrets for finding DEAD center. 
>> Has anyone tried touching off the corners or?
>> Usually you don't realize your out of center until you go around it 
>> with a bit especially if you are doing a sunburst or something. 
>> Lets dig up some good suggestions I need repeatability not hit
>> and miss. 
>> Thanks
>>
>

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Re: triple hollow spiral

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Ellis

I have recently sold my 900, I only bought it to extend my Revo. The worst
thing I found out about the Revo was lack of Depth of cut,,More so on the
Table  and Rotary table  plus lack of dia, width
However I miss the Revo. I did try to get the buyers to join the Group,
Have not seen it happen yet !!??

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:40 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Yup. for sure business driven. but still a great family group.
> Thanks for giving me an excuse to finally order some of the Dyna Glide. lol
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:28 AM  wrote:
>
>> Your right Tim I shouldn’t condemn I’m sure they are a different company
>> these days
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Friday, 26 March 2021 9:56 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: triple hollow spiral
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill I had to wait a long time to but I still got them and whatever other
>> parts I ordered. It just took a long tme as
>>
>> I'm sure they try to do a production order, plus they have been pushing
>> the Maverick pretty hard so may be extremely
>>
>> busy trying to keep up. They will come through.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:26 AM  wrote:
>>
>> Like I said brett you don’t have the gears till there in your hands sorry
>> I don’t trust legacy very much hopefully the delay is just covid.
>>
>> I don’t pull it off videoing very well I’m no Spielberg that’s for sure
>> lol like I say I do videos I never said they were good but at least their
>> there. I just uploaded the last one just now.
>>
>> And remember when you go to make yours any questions just ask, and don’t
>> get dishearten when or if you break a middle spiral I blew up 2 before I
>> got the hang of it the first time I made a  triple this one is my third now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Brett Giger
>> *Sent:* Friday, 26 March 2021 4:26 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: triple hollow spiral
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Bill I'm a huge fan of the. Triple spiral ,I'm still waiting on my
>> gears,I thought I would of got them 2 weeks ago ,but  still haven't got
>> them yet,the videos are great ,don't know how you pull those off ,but I'm
>> greatful for your knowledge and patience
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 3:04 PM  wrote:
>>
>> We saved the most important thing of all our lives.one day I will tell
>> you all of the unbelievable nightmare the city council put us through just
>> to rebuild our house like waiting over 3 years homeless living in a tent on
>> our land waiting for permits just to start
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 24 March 2021 10:16 PM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: triple hollow spiral
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow you have quite a story behind you Bill.
>>
>> It really gives us an appreciation to where things are for today for you.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 12:42 AM  wrote:
>>
>> That’s the sad part I thought I had all the time in the world to take
>> pics of it I even looked in ebays archives which is where I got it but they
>> don’t go back that far I bought it from a seller who went by the name
>> treekiller he at the time had the best flame elder blanks I have ever seen,
>>
>>
>>
>> The coffee table was only one of precious things. I lost a full size 12
>> ft blue pool table worth over 15K. over 40 firearms some extremely
>> expensive the main one was a blunder bust from America bought to your
>> country on the mayflower so the story goes it was in my family for
>> generations I cant even begin to guess the price on that. all my
>> grandfather’s rifle shooting trophy’s his best was a big trophy cup for
>> shooting a 9 inch bull at 1000 yards with a old 303 British army rifle with
>> peeps sights and lost that gun too and that’s just a few things
>>
>> Believe me there in nothing more humbling than losing everything but the
>> clothes on your back and also nearly your life
>>
>> That really puts everything in perspective .
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>

Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.

2021-02-22 Thread Richard Ellis

*Now after all that*  I think it would be best if we start a new heading 
/conversation  with  heading  *REVO*
as the sale of the 1000 @800 is getting lost.
Richard

On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:42:08 PM UTC Richard Ellis wrote:

> Tim Dollars /Pound 0.71 Pound sterling  
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:35:30 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I would suggest selling the router separate as I have close to 20 plus 
>> routers of my own. So no shortage there. So you have a motor drive and 
>> control though? I have one one of my best friends could convert that. Will 
>> have to do some brain storming here. Give me the US dollar vs your  pound?
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 6:26 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:
>>
>>> Tim & Bill
>>> My and your problem is,,, I shall not be able to pack it. It has the 
>>> Rotary Table  and design kits both for it,, and the Rotary table plus a  
>>> lot of cutters and other things. Now the next problem -- what good are 
>>> the 240 volt Triton ( nearly new ) router and a 3 phase motor plus Inverter 
>>> to the U.S. electric supply . With all the bits and pieces that go with it 
>>> It has to be £1000  collected from the UK
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pulled down in to all its parts the package isn’t that big its doable 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 10:52 PM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> yes this is one I'd like to own but there is the same issue Bill has 
>>>> had only in much larger capacity will be the shipping. 
>>>>
>>>> If I know weight and size of box it could ship in along with an address 
>>>> I'd price it out both Fed ex and USPS. 
>>>>
>>>> do you have a few pic's of what you have Richard?
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>>
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 4:51 AM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Im sad to hear your revo has to go Richard here is a chance to own a 
>>>> revo guys I would jump at it if I didn’t already own one how much will you 
>>>> want for it Richard?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 8:56 PM
>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am in the U.K and have the Revo   /  Craftsman ---had the old 
>>>> Woodchuck before . The Revo is a good mill and I,, have ,like Bill 
>>>> extended 
>>>> it.I have put a drive motor to the headstock which makes it a pleasure to 
>>>> use. ___ NOW if I had kept the Woodchuck,, it had the drive to 
>>>> leadscrew and limit switches That would have made my Revo  100% better.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly owing to my health it will have to be sold. Shame , but that is 
>>>> life.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 4:36:25 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you have a choice go revo it’s a better mill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 1:19 PM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800.

Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.

2021-02-22 Thread Richard Ellis



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On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:42:08 PM UTC Richard Ellis wrote:

> Tim Dollars /Pound 0.71 Pound sterling  
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:35:30 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I would suggest selling the router separate as I have close to 20 plus 
>> routers of my own. So no shortage there. So you have a motor drive and 
>> control though? I have one one of my best friends could convert that. Will 
>> have to do some brain storming here. Give me the US dollar vs your  pound?
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 6:26 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:
>>
>>> Tim & Bill
>>> My and your problem is,,, I shall not be able to pack it. It has the 
>>> Rotary Table  and design kits both for it,, and the Rotary table plus a  
>>> lot of cutters and other things. Now the next problem -- what good are 
>>> the 240 volt Triton ( nearly new ) router and a 3 phase motor plus Inverter 
>>> to the U.S. electric supply . With all the bits and pieces that go with it 
>>> It has to be £1000  collected from the UK
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pulled down in to all its parts the package isn’t that big its doable 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 10:52 PM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> yes this is one I'd like to own but there is the same issue Bill has 
>>>> had only in much larger capacity will be the shipping. 
>>>>
>>>> If I know weight and size of box it could ship in along with an address 
>>>> I'd price it out both Fed ex and USPS. 
>>>>
>>>> do you have a few pic's of what you have Richard?
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>>
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>>
>>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>>
>>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>>
>>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 4:51 AM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Im sad to hear your revo has to go Richard here is a chance to own a 
>>>> revo guys I would jump at it if I didn’t already own one how much will you 
>>>> want for it Richard?
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 8:56 PM
>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am in the U.K and have the Revo   /  Craftsman ---had the old 
>>>> Woodchuck before . The Revo is a good mill and I,, have ,like Bill 
>>>> extended 
>>>> it.I have put a drive motor to the headstock which makes it a pleasure to 
>>>> use. ___ NOW if I had kept the Woodchuck,, it had the drive to 
>>>> leadscrew and limit switches That would have made my Revo  100% better.
>>>>
>>>> Sadly owing to my health it will have to be sold. Shame , but that is 
>>>> life.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 4:36:25 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you have a choice go revo it’s a better mill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22

Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.

2021-02-22 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim Dollars /Pound 0.71 Pound sterling  

On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 12:35:30 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would suggest selling the router separate as I have close to 20 plus 
> routers of my own. So no shortage there. So you have a motor drive and 
> control though? I have one one of my best friends could convert that. Will 
> have to do some brain storming here. Give me the US dollar vs your  pound?
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 6:26 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:
>
>> Tim & Bill
>> My and your problem is,,, I shall not be able to pack it. It has the 
>> Rotary Table  and design kits both for it,, and the Rotary table plus a  
>> lot of cutters and other things. Now the next problem -- what good are 
>> the 240 volt Triton ( nearly new ) router and a 3 phase motor plus Inverter 
>> to the U.S. electric supply . With all the bits and pieces that go with it 
>> It has to be £1000  collected from the UK
>> Richard
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:06 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Pulled down in to all its parts the package isn’t that big its doable 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 10:52 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> yes this is one I'd like to own but there is the same issue Bill has had 
>>> only in much larger capacity will be the shipping. 
>>>
>>> If I know weight and size of box it could ship in along with an address 
>>> I'd price it out both Fed ex and USPS. 
>>>
>>> do you have a few pic's of what you have Richard?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 4:51 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> Im sad to hear your revo has to go Richard here is a chance to own a 
>>> revo guys I would jump at it if I didn’t already own one how much will you 
>>> want for it Richard?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 8:56 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> I am in the U.K and have the Revo   /  Craftsman ---had the old 
>>> Woodchuck before . The Revo is a good mill and I,, have ,like Bill extended 
>>> it.I have put a drive motor to the headstock which makes it a pleasure to 
>>> use. ___ NOW if I had kept the Woodchuck,, it had the drive to 
>>> leadscrew and limit switches That would have made my Revo  100% better.
>>>
>>> Sadly owing to my health it will have to be sold. Shame , but that is 
>>> life.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 4:36:25 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> If you have a choice go revo it’s a better mill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 1:19 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Now if you can find me a 200 or a Revo lol. 
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:59 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>
>>> a 1000ex with motor drive. for sale.  $800.00   
>>>
>>>

Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.

2021-02-22 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim & Bill
My and your problem is,,, I shall not be able to pack it. It has the Rotary
Table  and design kits both for it,, and the Rotary table plus a  lot of
cutters and other things. Now the next problem -- what good are the 240
volt Triton ( nearly new ) router and a 3 phase motor plus Inverter to the
U.S. electric supply . With all the bits and pieces that go with it It has
to be £1000  collected from the UK
Richard

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 12:06 PM  wrote:

> Pulled down in to all its parts the package isn’t that big its doable
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 10:52 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>
>
>
> yes this is one I'd like to own but there is the same issue Bill has had
> only in much larger capacity will be the shipping.
>
> If I know weight and size of box it could ship in along with an address
> I'd price it out both Fed ex and USPS.
>
> do you have a few pic's of what you have Richard?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 4:51 AM  wrote:
>
> Im sad to hear your revo has to go Richard here is a chance to own a revo
> guys I would jump at it if I didn’t already own one how much will you want
> for it Richard?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 8:56 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>
>
>
>
> I am in the U.K and have the Revo   /  Craftsman ---had the old Woodchuck
> before . The Revo is a good mill and I,, have ,like Bill extended it.I have
> put a drive motor to the headstock which makes it a pleasure to use.
> ___ NOW if I had kept the Woodchuck,, it had the drive to leadscrew and
> limit switches That would have made my Revo  100% better.
>
> Sadly owing to my health it will have to be sold. Shame , but that is life.
>
> On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 4:36:25 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> If you have a choice go revo it’s a better mill
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 1:19 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>
>
>
> Now if you can find me a 200 or a Revo lol.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:59 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> a 1000ex with motor drive. for sale.  $800.00
>
> Check it out .
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>
> C.A.G.
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> *Woodworking*
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Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.

2021-02-22 Thread Richard Ellis


I am in the U.K and have the Revo   /  Craftsman ---had the old Woodchuck 
before . The Revo is a good mill and I,, have ,like Bill extended it.I have 
put a drive motor to the headstock which makes it a pleasure to use. 
___ NOW if I had kept the Woodchuck,, it had the drive to leadscrew and 
limit switches That would have made my Revo  100% better.
Sadly owing to my health it will have to be sold. Shame , but that is life.
On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 4:36:25 AM UTC aussiman wrote:

> If you have a choice go revo it’s a better mill
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 22 February 2021 1:19 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: 1000EX $800. with motor for sale.
>
>  
>
> Now if you can find me a 200 or a Revo lol. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:59 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> a 1000ex with motor drive. for sale.  $800.00   
>
> Check it out .
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/892874711500828/?ref=search_code=undefined
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Woodworking*
>
> $123
>
> 
>
> *Home Improvement Supplies 
> *
>
>  
>
>  › 
>
> 
>
> *Air Tools 
> *
>
>  
>
> Listed 3 hours ago in Avon, IN 
> 
>
> *Message*
>
> Delta and Legacy
>
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> (router not included) $800[image: Inline image]
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Re: Looking for some new projects.

2021-02-20 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks Curt for the reply
It looks like it is the pitch that is the problem.
Now a different matter When I try to reply to the author.   ( You  )It 
tells me I must belong to the Group ---Why is that ?? 
Richard

On Saturday, February 20, 2021 at 3:51:16 PM UTC Curt George wrote:

> Hello Richard this link has frayed and gone into 100 different 
> directions.  Here is the photo Anthony posted. If you go to the group page 
> you can see the others that he sent.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, February 20, 2021, 10:42:02 AM EST, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Be nice to see a photo or two so I can understand it better. From what I 
> have read it is a square  long shape with tapers let in it at intervals
> Richard ( U.K. )
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM anthony  wrote:
>
> When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the 
> spiral, 
> that they are part of the spiral.
> The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered.
>
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
> and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
> It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects.
>
> So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that 
> correct
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>  On Behalf Of anthony
> Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.
>
> I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style 
> of 
> box I have been making lately.
> One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be 
> constant throughout its length.  I have only the two examples, and it is 
> difficult to be certain what is happening.
> anthony
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer, 
> and 
> the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better 
> to 
> decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.
>
>
>
> Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question.
>
> Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling
> will weaken the bone.
>
> Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left
> to soak in it for a week or two.
>
> here are some pix. of some of my turnings.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony
>  wrote:
>
>
> I bought the femur at
>
> Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc.
> 5000 Crescent Technical Court
> St. Augustine, FL 32086
> Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964 <(800)%20624-7964>
> Inside FL: 904-797-7478 <(904)%20797-7478>
>
> I have never glued bone before.  I guess that you might need to boil it
> first.  Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it.
> I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never
> turned it.
>
> I am primarily a turner.  I have turned lots of things, but lately been
> making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money.
>
> anthony
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
> and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
> It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.
>
>
>
> Very Nice Anthony!
>
> Awesome wand.
>
> Where did you find A Giraffe femur?
>
>
> What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then
> gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making 
> bone
> Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But
> the results are very nice.
> Please let us know more about what you are doing.
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony
>

Re: Looking for some new projects.

2021-02-20 Thread Richard Ellis

Be nice to see a photo or two so I can understand it better. From what I
have read it is a square  long shape with tapers let in it at intervals
Richard ( U.K. )

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 3:19 PM anthony  wrote:

> When I called them parallel, I meant that the flats were part of the
> spiral,
> that they are part of the spiral.
> The spiraled portion of the balusters are tapered.
>
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
> and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
> It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:39 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Looking for some new projects.
>
> So your saying the spiral is meant to be parallel not tapered is that
> correct
>
> Bill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>  On Behalf Of anthony
> Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2021 8:16 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.
>
> I attached an image of the barley twist and a series of photos of a style
> of
> box I have been making lately.
> One of the difficulties with the twist is that the travel may not be
> constant throughout its length.  I have only the two examples, and it is
> difficult to be certain what is happening.
> anthony
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
> and
> the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete, It is better
> to
> decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:42 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.
>
>
>
> Sorry I did not see your reply to the bone question.
>
> Do not boil your bone. a hot water bath will not hurt the bone, but boiling
> will weaken the bone.
>
> Hydrant peroxide a 2-3% will remove the oil and whiten up the bone, if left
> to soak in it for a week or two.
>
> here are some pix. of some of my turnings.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 01:19:55 AM EST, anthony
>  wrote:
>
>
> I bought the femur at
>
> Atlantic Coral Enterprise, Inc.
> 5000 Crescent Technical Court
> St. Augustine, FL 32086
> Outside FL: 1-800-624-7964
> Inside FL: 904-797-7478
>
> I have never glued bone before.  I guess that you might need to boil it
> first.  Most of the bone I have worked with has a fair amount of oil in it.
> I have had some boiled bone, it seems leached of oil, but I have never
> turned it.
>
> I am primarily a turner.  I have turned lots of things, but lately been
> making boxes for fun and balusters and similar things for money.
>
> anthony
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
> and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
> It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:26 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Looking for some new projects.
>
>
>
> Very Nice Anthony!
>
> Awesome wand.
>
> Where did you find A Giraffe femur?
>
>
> What I have been doing is cutting bone disks out of Cow bones, and then
> gluing the disks into a solid blanks for my turnings. sorta like making
> bone
> Plywood. It take more time to make the blank then it dose to turn it. But
> the results are very nice.
> Please let us know more about what you are doing.
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 08:10:53 AM EST, anthony
>  wrote:
>
>
> I read that you were considering turning some bone.
> I have turned a couple of kinds of bone, this wand is made of Giraffe
> femur.
> It is the densest bone, and has the largest cross section that I have used.
> The other materials are Blackwood, Bocote, Pink Ivory, Boxwood, Verawood,
> Satine, and Osage Orange.
> I call it the Eveready Swiss Army Utility Wand.  Had to get the magical
> batteries, the small pieces that screw into the base of the handle, by
> seagull, the owls can't fly across the Atlantic, from the Eveready shop in
> Diagon Alley.  The toothpick was necessary to quality for Swiss Army.
> anthony
>
> 
> Since humans quit looking when they think or feel they KNOW the answer,
> and the answer they decide on is so rarely correct or complete,
> It is better to decide that one doesn't know and thus never quit looking.
> 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021

Re: Same old bone, Different cut

2021-01-11 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
It looks good ,How long is it and diameter . I have a lot of small pieces 
of BOX wood, but the 1/16th rope cutter is a problem. I will have to try 
different cutters . small  paper knives may look good ! ! !? ?
The U.K.  I have been trying to find other Legacy owners over here .Placing 
requests in the main Woodworking Forum*.  No joy at all.*I am still waiting 
for some pics from the brafield bodger. I just can't get any sensible reply 
Re the price he wants for the Revo that he has.
Stay safe during this Virus
Richard

On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:32:27 AM UTC Curt George wrote:

> Hello Everyone
>
> After a lot soul searching I decide to go for it.  I said to my self, 
> What's the worst that could happen? (don't answer that question, Please. ) 
> ;-)  "Any How", this is what I did.
>
> I uses a 3" pitch, (gear setting). Using a 1/16" roping bit.
> There are Three starts per side, and then I reversed the gearing, doing 
> the hole thing again ,in the opposite direction, To make the diamond cut.
>
> I'm pretty happy with it now.
>
> If anyone has any questions or comments, Please let me know.
>
> Have a good night everyone.
> C.A.G.
>

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New Year

2021-01-01 Thread Richard Ellis

A safe and prosperous 2021 to all the members of this group
>From Richard in the U K 

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Re: Ferrari Tractor

2020-12-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim
The Oliver Cletrac that I used when logging had, I seem to remember had  a 
plate on it that said " Built to Endure " and it certainly did.Just like 
most tractors and loaders that I had !!
Richard

On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 12:02:14 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> That is pretty cool. I wouldn't mind finding one of those but it may feel 
> out of place in Oliver country lol. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 5:07 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mac
>>  Here is a pic of the Tractor  NOTE!! the roller on the front
>>
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Re: Barn find Revo

2020-12-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Mac, I don't know where the tractor is now >.. Revo !! However I know 
the brafield bodger reads this forum. So he can possible sell it to you. 
Get a pic of it first though and whats with it.
Tractors ,, I have had all sorts Cat D8 and Terex loading shovels  If I 
needed one for a particular job  LOGGING and LAND CLEARANCE. all bought 
secondhand When I first started the price for an old model :U or M was 
about £20 . now they would fetch about £3000 plus.
I think my email is shown on this site so if you need more info. don't 
hesitate to contact me
All the best for Xmas to all the members
Richard

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 6:16:25 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:

> Tim,
> Have Richard arrange to pick up that "salvage case" Revo he knows about 
> and get him to "deliver" it to you in Minnie-soda using an old, restored 
> Ferrari Mini Articulating Tractor.  LoL!
> Mac
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Tim Ziegler 
> Sent: Dec 22, 2020 1:09 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>
> Thanks ok Richard, it helps us get to know each other a little. 
> We can bring the subject back. It all started with restoration of an LOM 
> so here we are right. 
>
> I do want to find a Revo as I mentioned earlier on too. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 7:38 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> The only pic of the little Ferrari tractor that I have is.A copy of my 
>> avatar on my VW Camper forum.I have taken a pic of it. but can't paste drag 
>> and drop.If Anyone wants to see it please email me.
>> Sorry to get too far off the Legacy chat
>> Richard
>> --
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:43:31 AM UTC timjz...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They showed an articulating on the web. It looked pretty cool must have 
>>> been close the one you may have had?
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> --
>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 3:35 AM Richard Ellis  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mac
>>>> Mine was an older model it was articulated , had a small hydraulic ram 
>>>> to make it pivot in the middle. As far as I can remember a strange gear 
>>>> set 
>>>> up.
>>>> Richard
>>>> --
>>>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:00:38 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Richard,
>>>>> Thanks.  I did that, and never could find one called "Artic".
>>>>> Saw a fair number of Ferrari "mini" tractors - but most seemed to be 
>>>>> somewhat "modern" - so figured they must be newer models - not one you 
>>>>> were 
>>>>> referring to.
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>>> From: Richard Ellis 
>>>>> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 1:53 PM 
>>>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> If you just type  Ferrari tractors in google search . It was only 
>>>>> about 4 foot high. I used it to tow a small grass mower.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 6:36:51 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>>> I can't find a "Ferrari mini artic" tractor on the internet.
>>>>>> Can you provide a link to pics or a site that shows one?
>>>>>> Sounds interesting.   Thanks.
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>>>> From: Richard Ellis 
>>>>>> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 3:47 AM 
>>>>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the replies ,He wants a working Revo. And I don't want any 
>>>>>> parts. Tim talking tractors ,I have had Allis -Chalmers model "U" and 
>>>>>> "M" 
>>>>>> good old work horses Also Cletrac crawlers,, Minneapolis Moline .And 
>>>>>> even a 
>>>>>> Ferrari mini artic. plus loads of

Re: Barn find Revo

2020-12-22 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi
The only pic of the little Ferrari tractor that I have is.A copy of my 
avatar on my VW Camper forum.I have taken a pic of it. but can't paste drag 
and drop.If Anyone wants to see it please email me.
Sorry to get too far off the Legacy chat
Richard

On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 11:43:31 AM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> They showed an articulating on the web. It looked pretty cool must have 
> been close the one you may have had?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 3:35 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mac
>> Mine was an older model it was articulated , had a small hydraulic ram to 
>> make it pivot in the middle. As far as I can remember a strange gear set up.
>> Richard
>>
>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:00:38 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:
>>
>>> Richard,
>>> Thanks.  I did that, and never could find one called "Artic".
>>> Saw a fair number of Ferrari "mini" tractors - but most seemed to be 
>>> somewhat "modern" - so figured they must be newer models - not one you were 
>>> referring to.
>>> Mac
>>> --
>>>
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Richard Ellis 
>>> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 1:53 PM 
>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> If you just type  Ferrari tractors in google search . It was only about 
>>> 4 foot high. I used it to tow a small grass mower.
>>> Richard
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 6:36:51 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:
>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>> I can't find a "Ferrari mini artic" tractor on the internet.
>>>> Can you provide a link to pics or a site that shows one?
>>>> Sounds interesting.   Thanks.
>>>> Mac
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>> From: Richard Ellis 
>>>> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 3:47 AM 
>>>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the replies ,He wants a working Revo. And I don't want any 
>>>> parts. Tim talking tractors ,I have had Allis -Chalmers model "U" and "M" 
>>>> good old work horses Also Cletrac crawlers,, Minneapolis Moline .And even 
>>>> a 
>>>> Ferrari mini artic. plus loads of others . How I wish I had kept them all 
>>>> !! I would have been a millionaire
>>>> I will tell my friend   to offer £100
>>>> Richard
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 3:20:48 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Any LOM is a good LOM. it's like restoration of an old OLIVER tractor. 
>>>>> It's all worth it in the end. Keep the heritage alive even it's only for 
>>>>> parts
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 9:05 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental 
>>>>> Mills  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you sure that lead screw is ruined? 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If its in as bad shape as you state. offer a few bucks for it. Out 
>>>>>> side the leadscrew and gears the hole machine only has $30.00 worth of 
>>>>>> scrap metal in it. If you can get it, a little TLC (Tender Loving Care.) 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> know you can get it working again.
>>>>>> I wish you luck on this one.  In the worst case... if you pick it up. 
>>>>>> there are some parts in the machine that others (or your self) who could 
>>>>>> use with your Legacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>> C.A.G.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 05:47:50 AM EST, Richard Ellis <
>>>>>> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a good friend who wants a REVO  I know where there is one, in 
>>>>>> an old barn, but in a very sad state. It is very rusty and has been for 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>&

Re: Barn find Revo

2020-12-22 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Mac
Mine was an older model it was articulated , had a small hydraulic ram to 
make it pivot in the middle. As far as I can remember a strange gear set up.
Richard

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 7:00:38 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:

> Richard,
> Thanks.  I did that, and never could find one called "Artic".
> Saw a fair number of Ferrari "mini" tractors - but most seemed to be 
> somewhat "modern" - so figured they must be newer models - not one you were 
> referring to.
> Mac
> ------
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 1:53 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>
> Mac
> If you just type  Ferrari tractors in google search . It was only about 4 
> foot high. I used it to tow a small grass mower.
> Richard
> --
>
> On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 6:36:51 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>> I can't find a "Ferrari mini artic" tractor on the internet.
>> Can you provide a link to pics or a site that shows one?
>> Sounds interesting.   Thanks.
>> Mac
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Richard Ellis 
>> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 3:47 AM 
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>>
>> Thanks for the replies ,He wants a working Revo. And I don't want any 
>> parts. Tim talking tractors ,I have had Allis -Chalmers model "U" and "M" 
>> good old work horses Also Cletrac crawlers,, Minneapolis Moline .And even a 
>> Ferrari mini artic. plus loads of others . How I wish I had kept them all 
>> !! I would have been a millionaire
>> I will tell my friend   to offer £100
>> Richard
>> --
>>
>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 3:20:48 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Any LOM is a good LOM. it's like restoration of an old OLIVER tractor. 
>>> It's all worth it in the end. Keep the heritage alive even it's only for 
>>> parts
>>> --
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 9:05 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you sure that lead screw is ruined? 
>>>>
>>>> If its in as bad shape as you state. offer a few bucks for it. Out side 
>>>> the leadscrew and gears the hole machine only has $30.00 worth of scrap 
>>>> metal in it. If you can get it, a little TLC (Tender Loving Care.) I know 
>>>> you can get it working again.
>>>> I wish you luck on this one.  In the worst case... if you pick it up. 
>>>> there are some parts in the machine that others (or your self) who could 
>>>> use with your Legacy.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>> --
>>>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 05:47:50 AM EST, Richard Ellis <
>>>> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> I have a good friend who wants a REVO  I know where there is one, in an 
>>>> old barn, but in a very sad state. It is very rusty and has been for a 
>>>> long 
>>>> while. It has a rotary table laying on the floor along with other Revo 
>>>> stuff. It also has a plate holder on the front with a few cutters  in it 
>>>> They are also very very rusty. I don't think This sad Revo has  been used 
>>>> for about six or more years.
>>>> *Now my question !!! What is a sensible offer* ,bearing in mind the 
>>>> leadscrew is ruined. And spares are not available here in the U,K, It will 
>>>> need  a lot of work to restore it to a good condition.
>>>> Richard U.K.
>>>>
>>>

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Re: Barn find Revo

2020-12-21 Thread Richard Ellis

Mac
If you just type  Ferrari tractors in google search . It was only about 4 
foot high. I used it to tow a small grass mower.
Richard

On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 6:36:51 PM UTC Va Oak wrote:

> Richard,
> I can't find a "Ferrari mini artic" tractor on the internet.
> Can you provide a link to pics or a site that shows one?
> Sounds interesting.   Thanks.
> Mac
> --
>
> -----Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Dec 21, 2020 3:47 AM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Barn find Revo 
>
> Thanks for the replies ,He wants a working Revo. And I don't want any 
> parts. Tim talking tractors ,I have had Allis -Chalmers model "U" and "M" 
> good old work horses Also Cletrac crawlers,, Minneapolis Moline .And even a 
> Ferrari mini artic. plus loads of others . How I wish I had kept them all 
> !! I would have been a millionaire
> I will tell my friend   to offer £100
> Richard
> --
>
> On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 3:20:48 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Any LOM is a good LOM. it's like restoration of an old OLIVER tractor. 
>> It's all worth it in the end. Keep the heritage alive even it's only for 
>> parts
>> --
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 9:05 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you sure that lead screw is ruined? 
>>>
>>> If its in as bad shape as you state. offer a few bucks for it. Out side 
>>> the leadscrew and gears the hole machine only has $30.00 worth of scrap 
>>> metal in it. If you can get it, a little TLC (Tender Loving Care.) I know 
>>> you can get it working again.
>>> I wish you luck on this one.  In the worst case... if you pick it up. 
>>> there are some parts in the machine that others (or your self) who could 
>>> use with your Legacy.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>> C.A.G.
>>> --
>>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 05:47:50 AM EST, Richard Ellis <
>>> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>> I have a good friend who wants a REVO  I know where there is one, in an 
>>> old barn, but in a very sad state. It is very rusty and has been for a long 
>>> while. It has a rotary table laying on the floor along with other Revo 
>>> stuff. It also has a plate holder on the front with a few cutters  in it 
>>> They are also very very rusty. I don't think This sad Revo has  been used 
>>> for about six or more years.
>>> *Now my question !!! What is a sensible offer* ,bearing in mind the 
>>> leadscrew is ruined. And spares are not available here in the U,K, It will 
>>> need  a lot of work to restore it to a good condition.
>>> Richard U.K.
>>>
>>

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Photos

2020-12-21 Thread Richard Ellis

Brafield Bodger
Can you please put the photos of your Revo. On this forum
Then David can see them.
I am not interested in it any more.
I suggest if you do not want to sell it to my friend you advertise it  On 
other forums.
I can give you some names if you like
Richard

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Re: Barn find Revo

2020-12-21 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks for the replies ,He wants a working Revo. And I don't want any 
parts. Tim talking tractors ,I have had Allis -Chalmers model "U" and "M" 
good old work horses Also Cletrac crawlers,, Minneapolis Moline .And even a 
Ferrari mini artic. plus loads of others . How I wish I had kept them all 
!! I would have been a millionaire
I will tell my friend   to offer £100
Richard



On Sunday, December 20, 2020 at 3:20:48 PM UTC timjz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Any LOM is a good LOM. it's like restoration of an old OLIVER tractor. 
> It's all worth it in the end. Keep the heritage alive even it's only for 
> parts
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 9:05 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure that lead screw is ruined? 
>>
>> If its in as bad shape as you state. offer a few bucks for it. Out side 
>> the leadscrew and gears the hole machine only has $30.00 worth of scrap 
>> metal in it. If you can get it, a little TLC (Tender Loving Care.) I know 
>> you can get it working again.
>> I wish you luck on this one.  In the worst case... if you pick it up. 
>> there are some parts in the machine that others (or your self) who could 
>> use with your Legacy.
>>
>> Good luck.
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Sunday, December 20, 2020, 05:47:50 AM EST, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> I have a good friend who wants a REVO  I know where there is one, in an 
>> old barn, but in a very sad state. It is very rusty and has been for a long 
>> while. It has a rotary table laying on the floor along with other Revo 
>> stuff. It also has a plate holder on the front with a few cutters  in it 
>> They are also very very rusty. I don't think This sad Revo has  been used 
>> for about six or more years.
>> *Now my question !!! What is a sensible offer* ,bearing in mind the 
>> leadscrew is ruined. And spares are not available here in the U,K, It will 
>> need  a lot of work to restore it to a good condition.
>> Richard U.K.
>>
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Barn find Revo

2020-12-20 Thread Richard Ellis

I have a good friend who wants a REVO  I know where there is one, in an old 
barn, but in a very sad state. It is very rusty and has been for a long 
while. It has a rotary table laying on the floor along with other Revo 
stuff. It also has a plate holder on the front with a few cutters  in it 
They are also very very rusty. I don't think This sad Revo has  been used 
for about six or more years.
*Now my question !!! What is a sensible offer* ,bearing in mind the 
leadscrew is ruined. And spares are not available here in the U,K, It will 
need  a lot of work to restore it to a good condition.
Richard U.K.

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Re: wave rosette

2020-11-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
As usual a excellent piece of work. Shows what the Revo can do,With a man 
with imagination at the helm
Richard

On Monday, November 23, 2020 at 7:46:19 AM UTC aussiman wrote:

> Ok here is my latest rosette 7x7 blank 1inch rope moulding bit using my 
> wave attachment set on its maximum which makes the rotary table produce a 1 
> inch side to side wave and using pitch gear C as if turning a one inch 
> pitch.and rotating 24 holes between cuts which would be half a turn on the 
> roatry tables handle.
>
> Came out not too bad video coming soon 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>
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Re: Rope molding

2020-10-26 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks Bill
I am still having trouble with my gears i:e if I put the standard duplex on 
with the 36 tooth I get the carriage to travel 5 inches --change to the 
.25 duplex I get nearly 2 inch travel 1 7/8 to be exact
Richard

On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 12:21:16 AM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>
> Were here to help you Richard just ask anything and we will try to answer .
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 26 October 2020 4:32 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Rope molding
>
>  
>
> Thank you very much for the info. and helpI am not too well, so I find 
> the most  simple things to be a struggle.I have been stopped from driving 
> and getting to use the Revo more and do get confused
>
> Richard
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 4:35:31 PM UTC gcda...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> 6” pitch gear with the.25 reduction set. 6x .25=1.5
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:09 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello Richard here these might help.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 10:57:00 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hi Curt
>
> I still can't get my head round as to what gears to use for a 1 1/2/ pitch
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 1:51:53 PM UTC Curt George wrote:
>
> Good morning Richard.
>
> As a general rule of thumb, the best looking ropes are 3-4 x the dia. of 
> the work piece. So your 1.25 (1 1/4") spindle should have 6" or 5"pitch.  
> But this is just a rule of thumb, there are no rules that you have to use.  
>
> Bills suggestion of using a core box bit would work as well as a roping or 
> barley bit, or even a "V" bit, would also work well. all depending on the 
> look you want.
>
> Wish you luck. Cant wait to see how it turns out for you.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 09:31:03 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> I can't think what gears I need for a 11/2 inch pitch.
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 12:27:48 PM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> At 1 ¼ inch dia 13 inch long you will most likely need some sort of thin 
> stock support to mill the spiral, a 1 ¼ corbox bit run down a piece of 
> timber and attach it to the revo rails and let the blank run in that as you 
> mill the spiral would work as a support I should think. With out a support 
> it might be very difficult to mill . good luck please take pics when you 
> finish it.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 10:06 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Rope molding
>
>  
>
> Bill, It is 11/4 inches I have just found a WEALDON cutter T7732 that is 
> for true barley twists for 41 mm dia round wood. I may have to try to give 
> it a sharpen!! When I asked about using a straight cutter I would have to 
> have worked out how to step by indexing and then a lot of sanding!!
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:44:31 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> What dia did you say?
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 7:39 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Rope molding
>
>  
>
> I have been asked to make a Rope molding light/ lamp stem 13 inches tall 
> by about 1/14 dia. Is it possible to use a straight 1/2 inch cutter to cut 
> from the side
>
> Or if not what cutter do I need?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard 
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Re: Rope molding

2020-10-25 Thread Richard Ellis

Thank you very much for the info. and helpI am not too well, so I find 
the most  simple things to be a struggle.I have been stopped from driving 
and getting to use the Revo more and do get confused
Richard


On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 4:35:31 PM UTC gcda...@yahoo.com wrote:

> 6” pitch gear with the.25 reduction set. 6x .25=1.5
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 25, 2020, at 11:09 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hello Richard here these might help.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 10:57:00 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt
> I still can't get my head round as to what gears to use for a 1 1/2/ pitch
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 1:51:53 PM UTC Curt George wrote:
>
> Good morning Richard.
> As a general rule of thumb, the best looking ropes are 3-4 x the dia. of 
> the work piece. So your 1.25 (1 1/4") spindle should have 6" or 5"pitch.  
> But this is just a rule of thumb, there are no rules that you have to use.  
> Bills suggestion of using a core box bit would work as well as a roping or 
> barley bit, or even a "V" bit, would also work well. all depending on the 
> look you want.
> Wish you luck. Cant wait to see how it turns out for you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 09:31:03 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I can't think what gears I need for a 11/2 inch pitch.
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 12:27:48 PM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> At 1 ¼ inch dia 13 inch long you will most likely need some sort of thin 
> stock support to mill the spiral, a 1 ¼ corbox bit run down a piece of 
> timber and attach it to the revo rails and let the blank run in that as you 
> mill the spiral would work as a support I should think. With out a support 
> it might be very difficult to mill . good luck please take pics when you 
> finish it.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 10:06 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Rope molding
>
>  
>
> Bill, It is 11/4 inches I have just found a WEALDON cutter T7732 that is 
> for true barley twists for 41 mm dia round wood. I may have to try to give 
> it a sharpen!! When I asked about using a straight cutter I would have to 
> have worked out how to step by indexing and then a lot of sanding!!
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:44:31 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> What dia did you say?
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 7:39 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Rope molding
>
>  
>
> I have been asked to make a Rope molding light/ lamp stem 13 inches tall 
> by about 1/14 dia. Is it possible to use a straight 1/2 inch cutter to cut 
> from the side
>
> Or if not what cutter do I need?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard 
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Re: Rope molding

2020-10-25 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
I still can't get my head round as to what gears to use for a 1 1/2/ pitch
Richard

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 1:51:53 PM UTC Curt George wrote:

> Good morning Richard.
> As a general rule of thumb, the best looking ropes are 3-4 x the dia. of 
> the work piece. So your 1.25 (1 1/4") spindle should have 6" or 5"pitch.  
> But this is just a rule of thumb, there are no rules that you have to use.  
> Bills suggestion of using a core box bit would work as well as a roping or 
> barley bit, or even a "V" bit, would also work well. all depending on the 
> look you want.
> Wish you luck. Cant wait to see how it turns out for you.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020, 09:31:03 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I can't think what gears I need for a 11/2 inch pitch.
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 12:27:48 PM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> At 1 ¼ inch dia 13 inch long you will most likely need some sort of thin 
> stock support to mill the spiral, a 1 ¼ corbox bit run down a piece of 
> timber and attach it to the revo rails and let the blank run in that as you 
> mill the spiral would work as a support I should think. With out a support 
> it might be very difficult to mill . good luck please take pics when you 
> finish it.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 10:06 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Rope molding
>
>  
>
> Bill, It is 11/4 inches I have just found a WEALDON cutter T7732 that is 
> for true barley twists for 41 mm dia round wood. I may have to try to give 
> it a sharpen!! When I asked about using a straight cutter I would have to 
> have worked out how to step by indexing and then a lot of sanding!!
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:44:31 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> What dia did you say?
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 7:39 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Rope molding
>
>  
>
> I have been asked to make a Rope molding light/ lamp stem 13 inches tall 
> by about 1/14 dia. Is it possible to use a straight 1/2 inch cutter to cut 
> from the side
>
> Or if not what cutter do I need?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard 
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Re: Rope molding

2020-10-25 Thread Richard Ellis

I can't think what gears I need for a 11/2 inch pitch.

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 12:27:48 PM UTC aussiman wrote:

> At 1 ¼ inch dia 13 inch long you will most likely need some sort of thin 
> stock support to mill the spiral, a 1 ¼ corbox bit run down a piece of 
> timber and attach it to the revo rails and let the blank run in that as you 
> mill the spiral would work as a support I should think. With out a support 
> it might be very difficult to mill . good luck please take pics when you 
> finish it.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 10:06 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Rope molding
>
>  
>
> Bill, It is 11/4 inches I have just found a WEALDON cutter T7732 that is 
> for true barley twists for 41 mm dia round wood. I may have to try to give 
> it a sharpen!! When I asked about using a straight cutter I would have to 
> have worked out how to step by indexing and then a lot of sanding!!
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:44:31 AM UTC aussiman wrote:
>
> What dia did you say?
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 7:39 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Rope molding
>
>  
>
> I have been asked to make a Rope molding light/ lamp stem 13 inches tall 
> by about 1/14 dia. Is it possible to use a straight 1/2 inch cutter to cut 
> from the side
>
> Or if not what cutter do I need?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard 
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Re: Rope molding

2020-10-25 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill, It is 11/4 inches I have just found a WEALDON cutter T7732 that is 
for true barley twists for 41 mm dia round wood. I may have to try to give 
it a sharpen!! When I asked about using a straight cutter I would have to 
have worked out how to step by indexing and then a lot of sanding!!
Richard

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:44:31 AM UTC aussiman wrote:

> What dia did you say?
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 25 October 2020 7:39 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Rope molding
>
>  
>
> I have been asked to make a Rope molding light/ lamp stem 13 inches tall 
> by about 1/14 dia. Is it possible to use a straight 1/2 inch cutter to cut 
> from the side
>
> Or if not what cutter do I need?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard 
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Rope molding

2020-10-25 Thread Richard Ellis

I have been asked to make a Rope molding light/ lamp stem 13 inches tall by 
about 1/14 dia. Is it possible to use a straight 1/2 inch cutter to cut 
from the side
Or if not what cutter do I need?
Thanks
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Re: spindle motor

2020-10-25 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
That is great You are certainly well wired up. Having moved house and have 
no room for welder or metal working stuff I get very frustrated, I do have 
a 
very good drive to my main spindle though. No good for the U.S. voltage 
though.
 Richard

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 10:18:05 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
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> I did make one its featured here 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2olosNXa80_channel=aussiman77181 it 
> has limit switches 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Friday, 23 October 2020 4:13 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: spindle motor
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  A brilliant idea,,, I wonder if a similar set-up would work for the 
> leadscrew maybe with limit switches ??!!
>
> Richard 
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 9:36:45 AM UTC+1 aussiman wrote:
>
> Finished my spindle motor today first test run works ok
>
> https://youtu.be/BGrnHJ0Zutc  0 to 140 rpm slower speeds if I use the .25 
> and the standard index gears but I think it will be the little gear I made 
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Re: spindle motor

2020-10-22 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
 A brilliant idea,,, I wonder if a similar set-up would work for the 
leadscrew maybe with limit switches ??!!
Richard 

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> Finished my spindle motor today first test run works ok
>
> https://youtu.be/BGrnHJ0Zutc  0 to 140 rpm slower speeds if I use the .25 
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Re: Button cup

2020-10-11 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curtis.
That looks good,when I made my candle stick, I used the button cutter that 
I found new and unused with the Gel still on it. One of many cutters that 
came with my Revo . How did you fasten your pot to the normal lathe?? 
Screws or in a chuck, ,If screws, did they hold in end grain?
Richard

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:45:41 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
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> Thank you Mac.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020, 11:28:49 PM EDT, M.W.Foscue <
> mwfo...@earthlink.net > wrote: 
>
>
> Curtis,
>
> Looks really nice - thanks for sharing.  That is a Beautiful piece of wood.
>
> Sounds like what you took is sometimes called a "Stay-cation" - where you 
> take leave from work, but "Stay" in the local area/home.
> With that Wuhan/ChiCom Virus going around a lot of folks are taking their 
> normal "Summer Vacation" as a Stay-cation; and getting to know their own 
> local area better; catching up on things needing done around the home; or 
> just having FUN with a sport or hobby - like you are doing.
>
> Have Fun & stay Healthy.
> Mac
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> -Original Message- 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Sent: Oct 7, 2020 9:03 PM 
> To: "legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com " 
> Subject: Button cup 
>
> Hello Everyone
> Its Wednesday and I am on a mini vacation. (just a few days off, for no 
> other reason then I have time, And that I need to use it.) ;-)
>
> This cup was a nice way to spend my day.  I turned the cup on the Lathe, 
> and then added the details.
>
> I used Mike's "Gear indexing method" to space out the buttons. I also used 
> a spacer block off of the Legacy stops, to advance/space out the rows the 
> of buttons. 
> Over all it was a nice project to do today. 
>
> For newer members these methods have been covered in past LOM 
> writings/topic.
>
> IN a nut shell. Mike's gear indexing method uses the Legacy's gears to 
> make the indexes, instead of using indexing plates.  
> (Mike's You tube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHgzEKnON-o )
>
> The method is pretty easy.  
> First figure the Circumference.  
> Diameter of the work piece X 3.14 then divide it by the router bit dia, 
> then divide that by 4 (the number of threads on the Acme screw) this number 
> will tell you the number of pitch you will need,  Then you need to use the 
> gear charts to find a pitch you can get close to...
> I use a 6" pitch for my gear indexing.(5 1/2" would have been better, but 
> 6" was the best I could make using my gears.)  Then all that I needed to do 
> was put THE handle on the lead screw so it pointed straight up.  Every time 
> I rotated the screw/gears one revolution, so the handle was pointing up, I 
> knew the part was at the proper indexing. 
> Once I made my first set/ring of buttons all the way around the dia. I 
> then used a 5/8" cut block to use as my spacing of the button rings. all 
> that really needs to be done is to use this spacer against the acme screw 
> locks to get the next placement of beads.  (5/8" was the best 
> looking/spacing, 1/2" just looked wrong/to close ...)
>
> I have No idea What kind of wood this is. 
> Its Very heavy and dense wood. it was part of a African  carved statue 
> that I found in the garbage. The statue was painted black, to make it look 
> like Ebony,   
> I cut off the bottom of the base and use it to make this cup.
>
> Any questions or comments are ,"As Always" welcome. 
>
> talk to you all more latter.
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Re: Joining the group

2020-09-12 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks  Curt., I Have sent your reply to him
Richard

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Joining the group

2020-09-12 Thread Richard Ellis

I have just sold my 900 to a man and he *wants to join the group*. i could 
not remember how I joined. ,*How does one join???*
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Re: template work

2020-09-01 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt & Bill
Thank you both for your help, and for keeping the group alive and kicking.. 
I do have a motor drive to the spindle. I always start with a rounded off 
square sectioned piece And then when template work I go the safe way . Bit 
of job to keep the cutter cutting as the same time as sliding the carriage .
*Now if I had a drive to the leadscrew* I would cut the non-safe way
Richard

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> Good morning everyone.
> Richard. everything Bill said is good advice. light cuts is a must for 
> safety and best results.
> If I understand you correctly. you do  not own a motor for your revo? Then 
> you need to try this. Make a template for your coat rack. instead of 
> turning and trying to follow the template at the same time, Lock your 
> spindle in place using your index plate, and then follow the template , 
> once you get to the end, index the part one or two deg. and do it again, 
> this way you will be taking light cuts, have more control, The more indexes 
> you take the rounder the part will become.
>
> I hope this helps, Please let us know how it turns out.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 04:45:28 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Thanks Bill & Curt
> I am thinking of making an old fashioned hat and coat stand out of some 
> brown oak I felled and slabbed 40 years ago The Revo has drive to the 
> spindle but not the leadscrew 
> The biggest problem is keeping the cutter up to the template and turning 
> the handle.
> The other problem is controlling the depth of cut . *Do you use the stops 
> or the lock knob??*
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 8:56:17 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello and Good day. ( It's Sunday and Im not working!) ;-)
>
> Richard here is a write up on the types of cutting that should help. 
> In normal woodworking Climb milling is not safe, the router bit can (and 
> normal dose) take off like a car wheel on pavement,  It will give you a 
> better looking cut,But
> as Bill stated under controlled (with the lead screw en-gauged) it can be 
> done safely.   The Only lesion I state this, is depending on which side of 
> center, left to right and ... can be confusing to people reading this.
> I would like to also note.  when cutting across the grain like at the ends 
> of a spindle this come into play a lot. (on which side of the cut is ragged 
> and what is not.) When cutting form the end (tail stock) I normally cut 
> form the front (screw side for the Legacy owners but not REVO owners) and 
> when cutting from the head-stock end, I cut form the back side...
>
> NOTE:That's why in the NAVY they use the terms, Port, and Starboard. (US 
> not England, they use Starboard and Larr-board term...) to keep things more 
> clear and understandable.   
>
> I hope this helps?
> Have a Great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 07:54:14 PM EDT,  
> wrote: 
>
>
> I always try to cut down hill and always in gear feeding with the cross 
> slide free which I control by hand. I set the finished depth at the highest 
> point of the template which matches the highest point on the blank which is 
> already milled to that finished size, I touch the cutter on that point and 
> then set the styles on the template to suit. Then I just feed the carriage 
> taking light cuts controlling the depth with the cross slide by hand as it 
> cuts till the last cut is following along the template.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 30 August 2020 1:43 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>
> *Subject:* template work
>
>  
>
> How do you folk use the template, do you start to cut left to right or 
> right to left,, cutting left to right takes less effort.Also how do you 
> adjust the depth of cut, do you use the lock screw knob or the adjustable 
> stops?
>
> Richard
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Re: template work

2020-09-01 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks Bill & Curt
I am thinking of making an old fashioned hat and coat stand out of some 
brown oak I felled and slabbed 40 years ago The Revo has drive to the 
spindle but not the leadscrew 
The biggest problem is keeping the cutter up to the template and turning 
the handle.
The other problem is controlling the depth of cut . *Do you use the stops 
or the lock knob??*
Richard

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 8:56:17 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello and Good day. ( It's Sunday and Im not working!) ;-)
>
> Richard here is a write up on the types of cutting that should help. 
> In normal woodworking Climb milling is not safe, the router bit can (and 
> normal dose) take off like a car wheel on pavement,  It will give you a 
> better looking cut,But
> as Bill stated under controlled (with the lead screw en-gauged) it can be 
> done safely.   The Only lesion I state this, is depending on which side of 
> center, left to right and ... can be confusing to people reading this.
> I would like to also note.  when cutting across the grain like at the ends 
> of a spindle this come into play a lot. (on which side of the cut is ragged 
> and what is not.) When cutting form the end (tail stock) I normally cut 
> form the front (screw side for the Legacy owners but not REVO owners) and 
> when cutting from the head-stock end, I cut form the back side...
>
> NOTE:That's why in the NAVY they use the terms, Port, and Starboard. (US 
> not England, they use Starboard and Larr-board term...) to keep things more 
> clear and understandable.   
>
> I hope this helps?
> Have a Great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020, 07:54:14 PM EDT,  > wrote: 
>
>
> I always try to cut down hill and always in gear feeding with the cross 
> slide free which I control by hand. I set the finished depth at the highest 
> point of the template which matches the highest point on the blank which is 
> already milled to that finished size, I touch the cutter on that point and 
> then set the styles on the template to suit. Then I just feed the carriage 
> taking light cuts controlling the depth with the cross slide by hand as it 
> cuts till the last cut is following along the template.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Sunday, 30 August 2020 1:43 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* template work
>
>  
>
> How do you folk use the template, do you start to cut left to right or 
> right to left,, cutting left to right takes less effort.Also how do you 
> adjust the depth of cut, do you use the lock screw knob or the adjustable 
> stops?
>
> Richard
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Re: revo drive motor

2020-08-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
Excellent job I have been toying with a similar idea. Using a small 3 phase 
geared motor controlled by an inverter. I was thinking about using a flat 
pulley driven by the shaft of the motor covered in leather. The whole thing 
counterbalanced.Years ago I used to shear sheep with a similar set up
Richard

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 12:04:08 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> I finally mounted a drive motor to my revo today I’m sick of winding the 
> handle also added more of my folding stops
>
>  
>
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Re: MA-12-56 (pro Package) with Accessories for sell

2020-08-25 Thread Richard Ellis

Oh ! How I wish it was in the U.K. I did like my old Woochuck before I got 
the Revo . Both great mills
Richard

On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 5:28:03 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Wow! that's some nice stuff !
>
> Any idea on how much you want for it?($$$)
>
> Where do you live? We may have a member in your area. 
> The Wood Chuck is a good Old machine, that can do some very neat things.
> I wish you luck on the sales...I find old tools never sell for what 
> you think they are worth. But you never know???
>
> Have a good night.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Monday, August 24, 2020, 11:32:27 PM EDT, sailf...@gmail.com <
> sailf...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Would anyone or know of anyone who might be interested buying a MA-12-56 
> woodchuck system (Pro Package).
>
> Includes:
>
> - Porter-Cable 7539 Electronic Variable Speed plunge Router (3.25 hp)
> - Drive motor (drives the lead screw which moves the router along the X 
> axis. Rotates the spindle shaft independently of the movement of the router.
> - 4.5” x 14” x 60” flat stock capacity
> - 9.5” x 60” spindle capacity
> - Router bits for making spindle turnings.
> - Adjustable (Head and Tail) bed for tapering
> - Contour Duplicator (Follower)
> - Rotating Carrier Tray
> - Indexing Hub Set
> - You can turn right and left-hand spirals.
> - Include 6 project videos and the system assembly video.
> - Gear Reduction and Indexing System.
> - Manuals for system and router
>
> Please call with any questions:
> Bruce Lindsey
> 614-425-4051
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Re: Multi Tasking on the Revo

2020-08-24 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Mac
Grub screws That's because they get buried in the object that needs 
fastening..Some of the machinery that i have had in the past had two grub 
screws to double lock  Also some had a small brass plug so that the grub 
screw did not damage the shaft/spindle-
Richard
On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 7:43:20 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
> Have you tried placing a turn of aluminum (excuse me - ya'll spell and say 
> it another way) duct tape on it?  If that's too thick (probably will be) 
> try just some thin alum. foil.  That may make up the difference.  The grub 
> screw (Whatever that is.  We have "grubs" that live in the ground here - I 
> don't think they make screws from them tho.) route is most likely causing 
> the spindle be be off center, which like you observed would be even a worse 
> result.
> Cheers.
> Mac
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>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 2:02 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Multi Tasking on the Revo 
>
> Hi Curt
> I too would like to thank you for the effort in keeping the group alive.
> Regards the Revo Spindle ,, yes it should be 5/8 th's. However mine reads 
> just around the .620 when miced. So that is why I have the wobble . I have 
> to lock the adapter from the side with a grub screw. That makes it worse.
> Needs a new spindle me -thinks
> Richard
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> --
> On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 2:21:21 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone
>>
>> Richard the REVO has a 5/8" shaft correct? If I remember correctly, We 
>> had a member of our group who used  Shop Smith lathe parts to fit the shaft 
>> of the REVO in the past.
>>
>> If the shaft is 5/8", lathe adapters like the Jacobs drill chuck, and a 
>> 1x8 threaded adapter and face-plates will work for your REVO.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>> --
>> --
>> On Friday, August 21, 2020, 04:48:08 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Bill,
>> Just oiled and finished the Candle Stick , The scrap wood was a bit of 
>> softwood pine or spruce. Not easy to work with It was too fast grown 
>> ---wide growth rings--- The finish to give it a bit of colour was Danish 
>> Oil mixed with a equal amount of wood stain - all experimental.
>> The bit that holds the candle was done on the 900 with a chuck. I tried 
>> to use the chuck on the Revo but far to much of a wobble.
>> I wish I could make a better way for the chuck to fit the Revo.
>> --
>> --
>> On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 3:47:03 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> I love it Richard all 3 set ups at once great job that’s one of the 
>> advantages of a longer revo 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Have a look at one I made might give you an idea for the candle holder 
>> https://ornamentalmills.com/ 
>> Bill_Bulkeley/Candlestick/ index.html 
>> <https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/Candlestick/index.html>
>>
>>  
>>
>> That part was done on my revo . cant wait to see your candle holder 
>> finished and all together
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com > googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:24 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>
>> *Subject:* Multi Tasking on the Revo
>>
>>  
>>
>> Just thought I would make a candle holder out of some scrap wood, 
>> finished object will be about 12 inches high
>>
>> Revo has to plane , Horizontal vice ,then cut round wax catcher , Rotary 
>> table work,  Still got to think how to do the top bit for the candle.All 
>> has to be done on the Revo.
>>
>> The pics are to show how much as I could get on the Revo
>>
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Re: Multi Tasking on the Revo

2020-08-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
I too would like to thank you for the effort in keeping the group alive.
Regards the Revo Spindle ,, yes it should be 5/8 th's. However mine reads 
just around the .620 when miced. So that is why I have the wobble . I have 
to lock the adapter from the side with a grub screw. That makes it worse.
Needs a new spindle me -thinks
Richard

On Friday, August 21, 2020 at 2:21:21 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone
>
> Richard the REVO has a 5/8" shaft correct? If I remember correctly, We had 
> a member of our group who used  Shop Smith lathe parts to fit the shaft of 
> the REVO in the past.
>
> If the shaft is 5/8", lathe adapters like the Jacobs drill chuck, and a 
> 1x8 threaded adapter and face-plates will work for your REVO.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, August 21, 2020, 04:48:08 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Bill,
> Just oiled and finished the Candle Stick , The scrap wood was a bit of 
> softwood pine or spruce. Not easy to work with It was too fast grown 
> ---wide growth rings--- The finish to give it a bit of colour was Danish 
> Oil mixed with a equal amount of wood stain - all experimental.
> The bit that holds the candle was done on the 900 with a chuck. I tried to 
> use the chuck on the Revo but far to much of a wobble.
> I wish I could make a better way for the chuck to fit the Revo.
>
> On Wednesday, August 12, 2020 at 3:47:03 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> I love it Richard all 3 set ups at once great job that’s one of the 
> advantages of a longer revo 
>
>  
>
> Have a look at one I made might give you an idea for the candle holder 
> https://ornamentalmills.com/ 
> Bill_Bulkeley/Candlestick/ index.html 
> <https://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/Candlestick/index.html>
>
>  
>
> That part was done on my revo . cant wait to see your candle holder 
> finished and all together
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 August 2020 11:24 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>
> *Subject:* Multi Tasking on the Revo
>
>  
>
> Just thought I would make a candle holder out of some scrap wood, finished 
> object will be about 12 inches high
>
> Revo has to plane , Horizontal vice ,then cut round wax catcher , Rotary 
> table work,  Still got to think how to do the top bit for the candle.All 
> has to be done on the Revo.
>
> The pics are to show how much as I could get on the Revo
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Re: Master Membership List

2020-08-10 Thread Richard Ellis

Roger
As you have sold so many LOM's to  folk in the U.K. I can't seem to find
anyone who uses one >i did find another Revo owner  11 miles away from me,
But we seem to have lost touch with one another *Ray* Are you still with
the group???
I have a 900 and a Revo But much prefer the Revo and all that came
with it  *Thanks
Martin*
Richard

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 3:07 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Bill,
> Thanks.  With your response - I at least know that my question went
> out/posted.
> I wonder how many LOMs were sold in Alaska.  Probably about as many as
> sold "Down Under"?  LoL
> Mac
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> -Original Message-
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
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> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Master Membership List
>
> Nobody yet mac?
>
>
>
> Bill
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> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Sunday, 9 August 2020 2:11 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Master Membership List
>
>
>
> Tim (and others),
>
>
>
> About 2 - 2 1/2 years ago we had a Group Member that lived in Alaska (I
> htink Anchorage) and shared with The Group that in the next 6 - 12 months
> he was gong to be moving back (south) to the "lesser 48" - possibly to
> North Carolina (Asheville area?).
>
>
>
> I'm sending this out to see if he's still lurking here - and if he made
> the move "south".
>
> So, if he, or anyone that may remember/know him, has any idea as to if he
> moved, please update us here.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mac
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Re: Master Membership List

2020-08-07 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
I have a Laptop down stairs that I use more than the PC When I wanted to 
post a new topic  There was no way to do it. _So started my PC up 
and all was O.K.   It must be the Laptop not working right.
Like the candle stick..-- will have to give it a go
Richard

On Friday, August 7, 2020 at 11:13:28 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Bound to be a bit quiet Richard, curt is away for 2 weeks on holidays and 
> I am installing more in my kitchen and too busy to do legacy stuff for a 
> while so its up to the rest of the group to post stuff.time for some of the 
> members lurking out there to post something how about it people.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Friday, 7 August 2020 7:26 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Master Membership List
>
>  
>
> Don
>
> This group is in a mess I can;t find anyway to post a new topic, your post 
> is the last one that I am getting, seems too quiet
>
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 5:45:47 PM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:
>
> Hi Don,
>
>  
>
> Moving down to the Eastern Shore (of MD) huh.  The humidity and proximity 
> to the ocean (or Chesapeake Bay) will make for a challenge with corrosion.  
> Notice I state corrosion vs rust - because your aluminum items (LOM rails, 
> etc.) are vulnerable as well.
>
>  
>
> Better start buying Boeshield T-9 by the gallon! (Yes - they do sell it by 
> the gallon.)  LoL!
>
>  
>
> I'm sure Group members will be looking forward to you posting pics & info 
> on theLOMs you will be selling.
>
>  
>
> Best of luck with your move. 
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
>  
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Donald Donley 
> Sent: Jul 30, 2020 11:37 AM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Master Membership List 
>
> Excellent - we are relocating from Pa. to Southern Maryland (Eastern 
> Shore) and would love to have contacts in the area -thanks Don - I also 
> will be providing list of LOMs that I won't be taking with me (I have 6 and 
> will be keeping two) - thanks again!
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:29 AM  wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
>  
>
> I’ve been absent for this entire subject. It seems when either Curt or 
> Myself take a leave of the list, things finally get exciting. So I’m back 
> and can answer the big questions. Yes there was a map that allowed members 
> to post as much information that I would allow with a reasonable level of 
> security. There was no password or usernames involved. I did see every new 
> posts and I had to remove people from the group because they abused the 
> system.  This all worked from a “hidden” link that was posted at the top of 
> the messages in the group. 
>
>  
>
> Let me say that the map will be back relatively soon. It will be behind a 
> membership/password system that will be needed and you must be a member of 
> this group to enter the area.  I’m still working on the entire solution but 
> it’s close enough to admit it’s coming. 
>
>  
>
> Before this happens, why not share your location in the end of your email 
> and the equipment that you have. It’s called a tag line.  
>
>  
>
> I hope that helps and if anyone has any comments on the matter can reach 
> me via artma...@comcast.net.
>
>  
>
> -Tim
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 10:25 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Master Membership List
>
>  
>
> Dustin (and all others),
>
>  
>
> Back when we had the "Map of LOM Owners" available to access after we 
> logged in to our Legacy Mill Google Group, we could see "map pins" placed 
> wherever there was a LOM owner that opted to be placed on the map.  If I 
> recall, when you cursored over one of the pins, you would see the "name" of 
> the LOM owner and the "city" they associated with.  In your case, Dustin, 
> the "name" associated with the pin most likely would have been "Chainlink" 
> (unless you decided to have it display Dustin).  
>
>  
>
> As for the "city" - I'll use Tim Ziegler as an example. He lives in 
> Foreston, MN.  
>
> The nearest "big city" is St Cloud.  So he might opt to have his "city" 
> listed/displayed as St Cloud.
>
>  
>
> If there is another LOM owner within a reasonable driving distance of that 
> pin in St Cloud, an

Re: Master Membership List

2020-08-07 Thread Richard Ellis

Don
This group is in a mess I can;t find anyway to post a new topic, your post 
is the last one that I am getting, seems too quiet
Richard

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 5:45:47 PM UTC+1 Va Oak wrote:

> Hi Don,
>
> Moving down to the Eastern Shore (of MD) huh.  The humidity and proximity 
> to the ocean (or Chesapeake Bay) will make for a challenge with corrosion.  
> Notice I state corrosion vs rust - because your aluminum items (LOM rails, 
> etc.) are vulnerable as well.
>
> Better start buying Boeshield T-9 by the gallon! (Yes - they do sell it by 
> the gallon.)  LoL!
>
> I'm sure Group members will be looking forward to you posting pics & info 
> on theLOMs you will be selling.
>
> Best of luck with your move. 
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Donald Donley 
> Sent: Jul 30, 2020 11:37 AM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Master Membership List 
>
> Excellent - we are relocating from Pa. to Southern Maryland (Eastern 
> Shore) and would love to have contacts in the area -thanks Don - I also 
> will be providing list of LOMs that I won't be taking with me (I have 6 and 
> will be keeping two) - thanks again!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:29 AM  wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I’ve been absent for this entire subject. It seems when either Curt or 
>> Myself take a leave of the list, things finally get exciting. So I’m back 
>> and can answer the big questions. Yes there was a map that allowed members 
>> to post as much information that I would allow with a reasonable level of 
>> security. There was no password or usernames involved. I did see every new 
>> posts and I had to remove people from the group because they abused the 
>> system.  This all worked from a “hidden” link that was posted at the top of 
>> the messages in the group. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Let me say that the map will be back relatively soon. It will be behind a 
>> membership/password system that will be needed and you must be a member of 
>> this group to enter the area.  I’m still working on the entire solution but 
>> it’s close enough to admit it’s coming. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Before this happens, why not share your location in the end of your email 
>> and the equipment that you have. It’s called a tag line.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I hope that helps and if anyone has any comments on the matter can reach 
>> me via artma...@comcast.net.
>>
>>  
>>
>> -Tim
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2020 10:25 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Master Membership List
>>
>>  
>>
>> Dustin (and all others),
>>
>>  
>>
>> Back when we had the "Map of LOM Owners" available to access after we 
>> logged in to our Legacy Mill Google Group, we could see "map pins" placed 
>> wherever there was a LOM owner that opted to be placed on the map.  If I 
>> recall, when you cursored over one of the pins, you would see the "name" of 
>> the LOM owner and the "city" they associated with.  In your case, Dustin, 
>> the "name" associated with the pin most likely would have been "Chainlink" 
>> (unless you decided to have it display Dustin).  
>>
>>  
>>
>> As for the "city" - I'll use Tim Ziegler as an example. He lives in 
>> Foreston, MN.  
>>
>> The nearest "big city" is St Cloud.  So he might opt to have his "city" 
>> listed/displayed as St Cloud.
>>
>>  
>>
>> If there is another LOM owner within a reasonable driving distance of 
>> that pin in St Cloud, and they wanted to link/meet up with a fellow LOM 
>> owner, they could contact Tim via an email on this board.  If Tim were 
>> interested in a meet up, he would reply back and they could exchange info 
>> to make the meet up happen.
>>
>>  
>>
>> With that pin map, there was very little info displayed.  I doubt that 
>> there was enough there for any "data farmer" to waste their time with.  If 
>> your map pin had a lot of info posted/associated with it - it was because 
>> YOU opted to display it there.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I remember when I first got my LOM, I checked the pin map and found there 
>> were no owners nearby - but there were a couple within about a 2-3 hour 
>> drive.
>>
>>  
>>
>> By the way, one additional bit of useful info that was tied to the pin 
>> was the model of the LOM you owned.  
>>
>> Again, what data farmer is going to waste their time/effort with that 
>> info?
>>
>> I'll bet there is more "useful info" in your recycle bin and trash can 
>> that you and your neighbors put out each week.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Just my 3 cents' worth.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Perhaps "Master Craftsman" Tim Krause will chime in soon and give us "The 
>> rest of the Story" as Paul Harvey used to say.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Wishing all of ya'll a safe, healthy, and Fun-filled weekend!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>>

Re: Happy Independence day everyone. (4th of July)

2020-07-04 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
Here in the UK they are going to open the bars. I wonder what will happen 
???!!

On Saturday, July 4, 2020 at 4:16:18 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> HI everyone, I Just got home form work,  
>
> I hope everyone has a safe and enjoyable 4th of July celebration this 
> weekend.
>
> Take care everyone.  
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>

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Re: Box making

2020-06-26 Thread Richard Ellis

The Triton stuff is well thought out and well made  It was the 2000 that I 
had ,And another Triton tool  I have is the sander that fits onto an 4 inch 
angle grinder.
Ideal for sanding flat surfaces *but only that.* I have had other Triton 
things but they are long gone. I tend to buy things to suit the job in hand.
I am only an amateur at this wood working game , since I retired. Still 
learning !! 

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 3:50:54 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> That is really a nice looking portable solution! 
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 1:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Box making
>
>  
>
> Here is an old video of the triton work center 2000 I still have one great 
> tool in its day
>
> Still is I think. And a few of their other tools
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXi2gMaK0lQ
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8PUGwgoNg
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGq5uPnEnMg
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6jFyd71t3w
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r73W_tzzbqE
>
>  
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXpQpgk-Ps
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
> *Sent:* Thursday, 25 June 2020 2:03 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Triton is a brand that I know very little about. I know about there 
> router. (bill has be raving over them for years now.) but I know next to 
> nothing about this product line.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 06:53:36 PM EDT,  > wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> I like triton too I still have a workcenter 2000, 2 super jaws and 5 
> triton routers I love triton routers I especially like the quick change 
> option they have to allow you to move the router from one machine to 
> another in seconds
>
>  
>
> Bill 
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Thursday, 25 June 2020 1:01 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>  
>
>  I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land 
> and decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a 
> Triton saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 
>
> I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of 
> Tiverton when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.
>
> However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored 
> with saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??
>
> Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my 
> travels came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I 
> bought them 
>
> Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had 
> other things made by Triton.
>
> Richard
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
>  
>
> Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.
>
> I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as 
> most of us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.
>
>  
>
> You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not 
> sell a table saw to?!?  LoL!
>
> In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
> pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  
>
>  
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Box making 
>
> Hi Mac
>
> As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.
>
>  
>
> Richard
> --
> --
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 
>
> Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can 
> get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)
>
> In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make *exact* copies 
> and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long 
> ago, where they even used Woodpecke

Re: Box making

2020-06-24 Thread Richard Ellis

 I did not get into this small wood working game until I bought some land 
and decided to build a house on it. If you class a Triton saw bench with a 
Triton saw underneath, then I did have a sort of table saw. 
I was into much larger saws , bought three saw mills from Stenners of 
Tiverton when I had my sawmill. And a double ended cross cut circle saw.
However my main occupation was Forestry and land clearance. I got bored 
with saw milling and like the great outdoors. And a challenge!!!??
Worked for some of the largest landowners in the country, and in my travels 
came across many bit and bobs. If I thought they were interesting I bought 
them 
Roger The Triton super jaws great product and I still have one I have had 
other things made by Triton.
Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:46:42 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> Sorry - I did not pick up on/see that.
> I assumed that anyone that was in to woodworking as much as/as long as 
> most of us on this Group posting would have a table saw of some sort/size.
>
> You mean to say that there is a woodworker in The UK that Roger did not 
> sell a table saw to?!?  LoL!
> In your case then, look at the table saw as you would a boat or a swimming 
> pool.  It's best to not own own one - rather, have a friend that does.  
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 3:19 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: Box making 
>
> Hi Mac
> As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.
>
> Richard
> --
> --
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 
>> Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can 
>> get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)
>> In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make *exact* copies 
>> and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long 
>> ago, where they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in 
>> their eBay postings.)
>> If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones 
>> made of high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru 
>> Rockler, Woodcraft, Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)
>>
>> Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" 
>> out of plywood.  
>>
>> Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
>> accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit 
>> perfectly inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  
>> The jig should be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size 
>> that spacer so that one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom 
>> edges of the bottom of the box and the top ply piece will be close to even 
>> with the top edges of the top of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides 
>> were all squares instead of rectangles) it will look like you now have a 
>> solid wood cube. (In your case it will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can 
>> glue he 4 sides together, insert the Jig into the inside of the box frame, 
>> and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 4 corners - all at once - you 
>> won't need 4 clamps.
>> The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º 
>> yield a 90º cut.
>>
>> Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"! )
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>
>> Here you go Richard 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>
>>  
>>
>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 
>> 4 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>> *To:

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Brigitte
Nice to know I am not the only Legacy user in the U.K. Which model do you 
have ? I have  Revo and a 900 that I am trying to sell on, with shorter 
rails. that have gone onto the Revo
Cheers
Richard
I have some very good ply so will set about making some clamp squares

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 6:52:24 PM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>
> Hi Richard, Yes, we live near Exmouth, East Devon.
> I have made a set of plywood clamping squares out of 3/4" ply.
> Brigitte
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, 12:13 Richard Ellis,  > wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>  This is the second go at replying to your post Re: plywood  Good idea 
>> will give it a go next time. By the way are you in the U.K. ??
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> Morning people,
>>> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick 
>>> plywood?
>>> Legacy Widow
>>>
>>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08,  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here you go Richard 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you 
>>>> get 4 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>>>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mac. & Roger
>>>>
>>>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
>>>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
>>>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if 
>>>> you 
>>>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
>>>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Richard,
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, 
>>>> is "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>>>
>>>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to 
>>>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for 
>>>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a 
>>>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If 
>>>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
>>>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
>>>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>>>>
>>>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
>>>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Be well - and do good.
>>>>
>>>> Mac
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- 
>>>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>>>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
>>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>>>
>>>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off 
>>>> the rails to check it.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Mac
As I have said before I have not got a Table Saw.

Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 5:43:00 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Sorry - I saw that "TongXu" and immediately thought "Chi-Com knock-off". 
> Thanks for the link - however, I will not buy from China whenever I can 
> get a similar product made elsewhere. (Not always easy.)
> In the case of Woodpeckers' products, the Chi-Coms make *exact* copies 
> and, like you stated, sell them for a LOT less. (There was a time, not long 
> ago, where they even used Woodpeckers' photos for their Chi-Com products in 
> their eBay postings.)
> If the Woodpecker pieces (made of aluminum) are pricey, there are ones 
> made of high-tech polymers, like the one you posted, available thru 
> Rockler, Woodcraft, Peachtree, Klingspor, etc. (possibly made in China too)
>
> Brigitte - you get The Prize - for your recommendation to "Make your own" 
> out of plywood.  
>
> Richard - If you have your table saw and miter gauge set up to give you 
> accurate 90º cuts, why not create a jig from plywood that will fit 
> perfectly inside the assembled box (before you glue it up - test fit it)?  
> The jig should be 2 pieces of ply with a spacer block between them.  Size 
> that spacer so that one of the ply pieces will lay flush with the bottom 
> edges of the bottom of the box and the top ply piece will be close to even 
> with the top edges of the top of the box.  Apperance-wise, (if the sides 
> were all squares instead of rectangles) it will look like you now have a 
> solid wood cube. (In your case it will be a rectangular box.)  Now you can 
> glue he 4 sides together, insert the Jig into the inside of the box frame, 
> and clamp it.  The jig will square up all 4 corners - all at once - you 
> won't need 4 clamps.
> The key to this is making sure your table saw & miter gauge set to 90º 
> yield a 90º cut.
>
> Best of  luck!  (I know - you Brits don't need "luck" you have "Skill"! )
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au  
> Sent: Jun 23, 2020 4:07 AM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: Box making 
>
> Here you go Richard 
>
>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>
>  
>
> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 4 
>
>  
>
> Bill
> --
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>
>  
>
>
> Mac. & Roger
>
> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
> --
> --
>
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
>  
>
> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>
> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt 
> to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - 
> but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. 
> (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere 
> between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>
>  
>
> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>
> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>
>  
>
> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>
>  
>
> Be well - and do good.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Box ma

Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi
 This is the second go at replying to your post Re: plywood  Good idea will 
give it a go next time. By the way are you in the U.K. ??

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>
> Morning people,
> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick 
> plywood?
> Legacy Widow
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08, > wrote:
>
>> Here you go Richard 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>
>>  
>>
>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 
>> 4 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > >
>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> Mac. & Roger
>>
>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
>> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>
>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to 
>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for 
>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a 
>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If 
>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>>
>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Be well - and do good.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -----Original Message- 
>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>
>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off 
>> the rails to check it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the 
>> box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>>
>> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
>> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or 
>> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the 
>> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis

Mike & Bill
I had a go with a block of softwood .The dog system is a good idea . 
However owing to the width of the block and the vibrations of the planing 
cutter the screws in the dogs allowed the block to move. Hence, I finished 
up with a semi-round block. I resorted to my accurate band saw and got two 
out of the sides correct. That's all I need for this glue job.As it has 
been said ,,for some jobs ,accuracy is not for the Legacy!!
Roger
 cheese Stilton with a bit of vinegar is my preferred cheese 
Regards
Richard

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 9:54:45 AM UTC+1, Gavin wrote:
>
> Morning people,
> Surely you could make your own clamping squares like these out of thick 
> plywood?
> Legacy Widow
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:08, > wrote:
>
>> Here you go Richard 
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/TONGXU-Position-Accessory-Auxiliary-Woodworking/dp/B07VMKZ65N/ref=pd_sbs_60_3/261-2781080-9222905?_encoding=UTF8_rd_i=B07VMKZ65N_rd_r=c3cefc80-fb5b-4fa1-9644-613897b30d4d_rd_w=RjgiZ_rd_wg=aYaGT_rd_p=2773aa8e-42c5-4dbe-bda8-5cdf226aa078_rd_r=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC=1=A8RQWJ7SVGQD8KDE2VVC
>>
>>  
>>
>> a bit more reenable price  I wouldn’t pay that much  either  and you get 
>> 4 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 5:11 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > >
>> *Subject:* Re: Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> Mac. & Roger
>>
>> I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
>> clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
>> of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
>> use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
>> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
>> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
>>
>> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to 
>> attempt to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for 
>> a lot - but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a 
>> cube. (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If 
>> somewhere between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
>> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
>> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
>>
>> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>>
>>  
>>
>> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
>> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Be well - and do good.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -----Original Message- 
>> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Box making 
>>
>> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off 
>> the rails to check it.
>>
>>  
>>
>> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Box making
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the 
>> box joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>>
>> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
>> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or 
>> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the 
>> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Box making

2020-06-23 Thread Richard Ellis


Mac. & Roger
I have just been onto the woodworkers workshop To have a look at the 
clamping squares. I,, like Roger,, have been selling  and buying all sorts 
of thing from land to lathe parts. But buying is where the profit is if you 
use your brains. To buy squares at £64.95  must think I am stupid. 
On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 8:15:21 PM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> I would do the same as Bill.  My SawStop, for all practical purposes, is 
> "Dead On" at making 90º cuts.
> I do not have confidence in the precision capability of the LOM to attempt 
> to perfectly "square" a piece of wood on it.  The LOM is great for a lot - 
> but not to establish perfect 90º angles four times to create a cube. 
> (backlash and just the slight "slop"in the rail tracking)  If somewhere 
> between 88 and 92 degrees was "ok" then I might try the LOM.
>
> I suggest you contact a GREAT American precision manufacturer - 
> Woodpeckers - and buy a few of their "Clamping Squares" 
> <https://www.woodpeck.com/clamping-squares-plus.html>  
> (Sorry, Roger, they do not make cheese.)
>
> They will square up whatever it is you want squared up.  There are a 
> variety of ways you can employ them to accomplish that.
>
> Be well - and do good.
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au  
> Sent: Jun 22, 2020 1:58 PM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: Box making 
>
> I would do it on the spindle with the indexing gear using a square off the 
> rails to check it.
>
>  
>
> But I’m guessing I usually square all  my stock on the table saw.
>
>  
>
> Bill
> --
> --
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2020 2:19 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Box making
>
>  
>
> I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
> joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
>
> Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite 
> square. The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or 
> planing on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the 
> others. The block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
>
> Richard
>
>

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Box making

2020-06-22 Thread Richard Ellis

I am making some small boxes 4x8 inch 4 inch deep. I have done all the box 
joints using 1/2 inc cutter, Four turns with the handle worked well.
Now glue up --I have block of wood 3 1/2 inch but not quite square. 
The question is how to make it square on the Legacy---45 180 90 or planing 
on the table, Table will get two sides o.k. but how about the others. The 
block is for clamping, one corner off for glue run out.
Richard

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Re: 1000x parts:

2020-06-20 Thread Richard Ellis

Roger 
I agree about deep pockets and short arms. However  If you don't need it to 
replace a  lost or worn out part, why buy it,?
Richard
 

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 11:55:53 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Ron
>
> What I learnt 50 odd years ago when I went into selling was that something 
> is only worth what someone is willing to pay.  Basically they have to see 
> the value to them hence people spend enormous sums of money for art and 
> bling because they want the kudos that goes with ownership.  
>
> In tool terms some people will buy Festool because it will do what they 
> want and in some cases it gives extra confidence, others will not agree.  
>
> When discussing woodturners and for that matter Legacy users they will 
> help one another when ever they can plus they have deep pockets but very 
> short arms and they can be found all over the world.
>
> What your friends think something is worth is great but if those buying 
> don't then that's life.
>
> Cheers 
>
> Roger
>
> 
>
>
> 
> From: 4 Jim Carpenter
> Received: 20/06/2020 05:03:10 +01:00
> To: To:
> Everyone asking about what I want for this or that - no offers except one 
> at $80.00 a set. I had lots of extra gears and indexes that were sold at 
> $100.00 a disk (not a set of 2 or 3) plus shipping. I will stick with that 
> value and let everyone know that after discussing with my machinist union 
> friend that the cost to reproduce similar gears start at $300.00 and go up 
> so they are buying at one third of the value. Multiplier sold = jpg GearsN 
> previous post.
> Balance will go to online auction later so if there are any wants ask if 
> available at - chas...@att.net  -  Ron for RIP Jim TKU
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Re: Want to put a motor my 1200

2020-06-14 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
I agree two motors make it into a much better machine, When I had the 
Woodchuck it had the drive motor to the Leadscrew. Wish I had kept it .
Have thought of buying it back still thinking !! 
Richard

On Saturday, June 13, 2020 at 6:20:16 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> And you need 2 motors one on the leadscrew and one on the spindle to make 
> the legacy perfect.
>
> Having a spindle motor as well gets better finishes on your work when 
> turning .
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > 
> *Sent:* Sunday, 14 June 2020 1:17 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Want to put a motor my 1200
>
>  
>
> Hello Again.  This topic should stand on its own.
>
>  
>
> I feel a motor drive is a must for any Legacy owner. 
> I originally did not by a motor drive for my machine, I felt it was to 
> expensive and I did not need it.  I was WONG on both accounts.  Granted I 
> DID not by form Legacy, I did make my own, the Motor makes the Legacy into 
> a much better machine.
>
> Here are some pix. of my motor.
>
> As you can see I did not mount my motor as Legacy did, (on the end of the 
> acme screw.) The main reason was this motor was almost free, and its size 
> is to big to fit on my Legacy, So I modified it .  Its a 90 volt DC gear 
> motor. 82-1 gear ratio. max. speed is something like 40 rpm. (which is was 
> faster than I will ever use on my machine.)  The gear's and chain are from 
> an Audi timing chain (I picked up second hand form my auto garage shop.) I 
> made one limit switch. (not shown)  All the wire is Home Depot speaker 
> wire. 
>
>  
>
> As you can see, there are more than one way to do almost anything. and you 
> don't have to spend a lot of money to get the job done.
>
>  
>
> Talk to you more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, June 13, 2020, 10:48:34 AM EDT, Curt George <
> curt@yahoo.com > wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hello Everyone  
>
> Denson, I have taken your posting and thought it should stand in its own 
> as a new topic.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> From:
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>  
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>
> Hi Richard
>
> I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Denson
>
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Re: Rotary Table work

2020-06-13 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi 
See my post to John Tyler
Richard

On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 5:51:20 PM UTC+1, Denson Ingram wrote:
>
> Hi Richard
> I’m wanting to put a drive motor on my 1200 so any info or help would be 
> appreciated.
> Thanks
> Denson
>
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Richard Ellis  > wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Curt
> The Rotary Table has 160 teeth, I wonder why they did not do 180 ---i:e 2 
> degrees.
> I am working on a new type of drive to the main spindle of the Legacy.  
> Brain strain is the problem though !!??
> Richard
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 1:21:12 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Good morning Richard.
>> I quite agree, about the rotary table.  but  for me, its the one tool 
>> that I do not use often, Thank you for re-minding me...  There is almost 
>> always more then one way to do anything.  
>>
>> have a Great day.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Friday, June 12, 2020, 03:33:32 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>>
>> Arkady
>> I have no idea what wood it is . It looks like Mahogany But is quite 
>> heavy. I did think it might be Teak,but it glues well, It was a rough bench 
>> that was standing outside near a Green house with pots on it when I bought 
>> this house . Curt - The Rotary Table is handy if no normal lathe is 
>> available
>> Richard
>>
>> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 4:56:20 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Very nice plant stand. it that red-wood?
>> C.A.G.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 11, 2020, 09:34:52 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Here is a small item I have just made, Using the Revo and Dewalt Radial 
>> Arm Saw. It is just had it's first coat of Danish oil
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Re: Rotary Table work

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
The Rotary Table has 160 teeth, I wonder why they did not do 180 ---i:e 2 
degrees.
I am working on a new type of drive to the main spindle of the Legacy.  
Brain strain is the problem though !!??
Richard

On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 1:21:12 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Good morning Richard.
> I quite agree, about the rotary table.  but  for me, its the one tool that 
> I do not use often, Thank you for re-minding me...  There is almost always 
> more then one way to do anything.  
>
> have a Great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020, 03:33:32 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
>
> Arkady
> I have no idea what wood it is . It looks like Mahogany But is quite 
> heavy. I did think it might be Teak,but it glues well, It was a rough bench 
> that was standing outside near a Green house with pots on it when I bought 
> this house . Curt - The Rotary Table is handy if no normal lathe is 
> available
> Richard
>
> On Friday, June 12, 2020 at 4:56:20 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Very nice plant stand. it that red-wood?
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, June 11, 2020, 09:34:52 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
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>
> Here is a small item I have just made, Using the Revo and Dewalt Radial 
> Arm Saw. It is just had it's first coat of Danish oil
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Re: Rotary Table work

2020-06-12 Thread Richard Ellis


Arkady
I have no idea what wood it is . It looks like Mahogany But is quite heavy. 
I did think it might be Teak,but it glues well, It was a rough bench that 
was standing outside near a Green house with pots on it when I bought this 
house . Curt - The Rotary Table is handy if no normal lathe is 
available
Richard

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> Very nice plant stand. it that red-wood?
> C.A.G.
>
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> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Here is a small item I have just made, Using the Revo and Dewalt Radial 
> Arm Saw. It is just had it's first coat of Danish oil
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Re: Technique for Turning large pieces of wood on the Legacy

2020-06-11 Thread Richard Ellis

Can you use the rotary table for turning larger dia. than what will fit in
the spindle space?? I have been using my table for turning small bits and
pieces hard to see what I am doing!!!
Richard

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 6:49 AM Paul Richmond <4pea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use my legacy to round out turning blanks all the time.  WAY less scary
> and faster too.
>
> Paul
> On 6/10/20 10:27 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I was talking to a friend on mine about turning large pieces of wood on
> the lathe.  If the wood is not balanced correctly it can be very scary,   I
> told him I use my Legacy to turn large wood turnings, the slow speed is
> great for maintaining balance, since the router is what is moving fast not
> the wood.
>
> When I turn large spindles that are not balanced, I use the Legacy in a
> planing mode.
> I lock the router depth of cut to the lowest point on the spindle, and
> then use the Y axis to control the depth of cut.
>
>  I mount the wood, between centers using the gears to turn the wood, I use
> the gears in this case more for indexing then I would do for turning.  I
> turn the wood, a small amount of rotation,( lets say 1/8" rotation,) then I
> plane the router over the wood,(form end to end of the wood) and then index
> the wood again.
> I start with the Y axis as far off center as I can, then after every
> index, I move the Y axis closer to the center.(adjusting the depth of cut.)
>
>   Using this type of cutting is much faster and safer, then turning as a
> lathe would, if I hit a thick area that I can not plane through, I then I
> just back off the depth of cut (Y axis), taking a smaller bite form the
> wood, repeating this process until I have the woods diameter uniform. Once
> the spindle is round, it can be turned more easily on either the Legacy or
> Lathe with out the fear of throwing the wood or bogging down your
> router,with large cuts.
>
> Just a quick thought of turning process's/ techniques.
>
> I have used this technique for turning any large spindle, form 3"-10".  I
> just cut a 6" spindle yesterday using this method, Its never given me any
> problems.  Small/light cuts over and over... is much safer then hogging off
> thick cut of wood.
> Its easier on your nerves, and your machine.  ;-)
>
> If you like I can make a video of this process? its not very exciting, but
> it is a much safer method then just trying to turn a large piece of wood.
> Have a good day/night. (its 1:30 am, now. So for me its good night.) Talk
> to you all tomorrow.
> C.A.G.
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Re: saw tooth clamping

2020-06-08 Thread Richard Ellis

I have never heard of him
Richard

On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 7:17:11 AM UTC+1, Va Oak wrote:
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> Richard,
> With an arsenal of machines of that size, it sounds like "back in the day" 
> you were possibly a walking, talking, breathing, version of "Snidely 
> Whiplash" of the "Rocky and Bullwinkle Show" and "The Villain" in good 'ol 
> "Days of Melodrama".
> I wasn't alive in those days - but have enjoyed a number of recordings of 
> them; and even seen a few live theatre presentations of several.
> Have a wonderful week.
> Mac
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> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: Jun 7, 2020 12:16 PM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: saw tooth clamping 
>
> Hi Curt
> I have no table saw so that rules that out. Of all the saws that I have 
> had I have never had a table saw. The biggest Band Saw that I have owned 
> was capable of dealing with 6 foot diam. That ran on railway lines in a 
> horizontal mode. Called a "Forester ". I also had double crosscut saws and 
> double slabbers. Two circle blades that one could move in and out and  
> round wood was fed through on a chain track. It took both sides off in a 
> single pass. Ahh!!! Those were the days.
> Richard
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> On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 7:28:13 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Hello Richard
>>
>> I used a thin kerf  saw blade on my table saw to make the grove,  and 
>> then, I used hot melt glue and an old band saw blade. I left appx. 1/4" of 
>> the teeth showing the rest is inside the glue/wood. the wood I used is 3/4".
>> the uni-strut and 1/4" square nuts made for the uni-sturt + two 1/4" 
>> screws is everything that is needed.
>> Woops. (spoke to fast.) you will also need "T"bolts to hold down the 
>> uni-sturt onto the Legacy extruded alum.(4 of them are what I used.)
>>
>> Once you make and use your own table hold downs, Please let us know what 
>> you think?
>>
>> C.A.G.
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>> On Friday, June 5, 2020, 04:29:04 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> Hi Curt
>> I am getting a bit annoyed with this new layout of the page . I have 
>> entered in the search area  and* get know where.* All I wanted to find 
>> was your post about the bandsaw teeth in the clamps . I was wondering how 
>> you cut the slit to put the blade in.
>> Cheers and all the best with this virus caper.
>> Richard
>>
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Re: saw tooth clamping

2020-06-08 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
Yes I did think of a wider slit and packing it. A biscuit cutter will do 
the job.. My mention of saws that I have owned is when I had a small 
sawmill.
They were mostly used in the ELM disease days. a lot of trees were cut 
down. Most of my timber went to the coal pits as props.  The sizes I cut 
were mostly 4,5 and 6 inch square 2 foot long, Like large bricks.
Richard 

On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 10:11:21 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
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> My son showed me what I was doing wrong .  Here is a photo.
> Hope this helps.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 04:52:43 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills > wrote: 
>
>
> Humm?
> Well you know what they say. "When there is a will, there is always a 
> way".  
>
> You could use the Legacy to make the parts. a small router bit could make 
> a grove and then you could use some piece of wood as a filler, to wedge the 
> blade into place. 
>  
> The very first saw blade hold down table I made, I used wood shims to 
> wedge the band-saw blade into place.
> my second table I used brad nails to do the same thing, Today I am on my 
> third generation of this hold down table of this stile. Hot melt glue is 
> what I used on my newest table.  The other methods also worked well for me
> in the past.
> For that matter, a hand saw could also do the same thing. or even a bisket 
> cutting blade,or Dremal, could make the grove needed. 
> My hold down table/ blades are 2 feet long, but you could go smaller if 
> you like. this concept works no matter how long or short the blades are. ( 
> Please take this comment, with a grain of salt, you do need to make sure 
> the support bracket are strong enough to hold the work piece in place while 
> cutting. so don't go crazy with way to thin or way to big pieces of wood. 
> I  used 3/4 x 1 1/4" for my hold down arms.)
>
> My camera is down, so I cant take any photos. I will look through some of 
> my old files, perhaps I can find some pix. that could help?
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 12:44:22 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt
> I have no table saw so that rules that out. Of all the saws that I have 
> had I have never had a table saw. The biggest Band Saw that I have owned 
> was capable of dealing with 6 foot diam. That ran on railway lines in a 
> horizontal mode. Called a "Forester ". I also had double crosscut saws and 
> double slabbers. Two circle blades that one could move in and out and  
> round wood was fed through on a chain track. It took both sides off in a 
> single pass. Ahh!!! Those were the days.
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 7:28:13 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Richard
>
> I used a thin kerf  saw blade on my table saw to make the grove,  and 
> then, I used hot melt glue and an old band saw blade. I left appx. 1/4" of 
> the teeth showing the rest is inside the glue/wood. the wood I used is 3/4".
> the uni-strut and 1/4" square nuts made for the uni-sturt + two 1/4" 
> screws is everything that is needed.
> Woops. (spoke to fast.) you will also need "T"bolts to hold down the 
> uni-sturt onto the Legacy extruded alum.(4 of them are what I used.)
>
> Once you make and use your own table hold downs, Please let us know what 
> you think?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2020, 04:29:04 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt
> I am getting a bit annoyed with this new layout of the page . I have 
> entered in the search area  and* get know where.* All I wanted to find 
> was your post about the bandsaw teeth in the clamps . I was wondering how 
> you cut the slit to put the blade in.
> Cheers and all the best with this virus caper.
> Richard 
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Re: saw tooth clamping

2020-06-07 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
I have no table saw so that rules that out. Of all the saws that I have had 
I have never had a table saw. The biggest Band Saw that I have owned was 
capable of dealing with 6 foot diam. That ran on railway lines in a 
horizontal mode. Called a "Forester ". I also had double crosscut saws and 
double slabbers. Two circle blades that one could move in and out and  
round wood was fed through on a chain track. It took both sides off in a 
single pass. Ahh!!! Those were the days.
Richard

On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 7:28:13 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Richard
>
> I used a thin kerf  saw blade on my table saw to make the grove,  and 
> then, I used hot melt glue and an old band saw blade. I left appx. 1/4" of 
> the teeth showing the rest is inside the glue/wood. the wood I used is 3/4".
> the uni-strut and 1/4" square nuts made for the uni-sturt + two 1/4" 
> screws is everything that is needed.
> Woops. (spoke to fast.) you will also need "T"bolts to hold down the 
> uni-sturt onto the Legacy extruded alum.(4 of them are what I used.)
>
> Once you make and use your own table hold downs, Please let us know what 
> you think?
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, June 5, 2020, 04:29:04 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt
> I am getting a bit annoyed with this new layout of the page . I have 
> entered in the search area  and* get know where.* All I wanted to find 
> was your post about the bandsaw teeth in the clamps . I was wondering how 
> you cut the slit to put the blade in.
> Cheers and all the best with this virus caper.
> Richard 
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saw tooth clamping

2020-06-05 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
I am getting a bit annoyed with this new layout of the page . I have 
entered in the search area  and* get know where.* All I wanted to find was 
your post about the bandsaw teeth in the clamps . I was wondering how you 
cut the slit to put the blade in.
Cheers and all the best with this virus caper.
Richard 

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page lay out

2020-06-05 Thread Richard Ellis

What has happened to this groups page lay out is it my PC or google messing 
about

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Re: A couple of completed projects.

2020-06-02 Thread Richard Ellis

Yep  very nice . Did you do the legs on the paler item next to the stand ?

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 3:12:35 AM UTC+1, Love to turn in Oregon wrote:
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> I recently complete a couple of night stands and dressers for my wife. I 
> was very happy that I had my legacy to add some bling to these. 
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Re: REVO PICS

2020-05-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Roger
When I joined up in the RAF in the 50ths there were no sockets in the 
barrack room. We had to stand on a chair, take the light bulb out plug the 
iron lead in if one wanted to iron ones trousers (pants )
I will start another posting to say what I have come across on my travels, 
Wonder I am still here in my muddles !!!?? 
Richard

On Friday, May 29, 2020 at 8:14:11 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
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> 
> Hi Mac,
>
> First let me correct you on recalling our Prince & Princess, he is a 
> Prince of the Realm she is not a princess, her title is Duchess of Sussex. 
> They made the decision to leave here.
>
> He was well liked and respected and had done an excellent job, 10 years in 
> The Army Air Corp on Apache Helicopters. When he came out he set up the 
> Invictus Military Games for the disabled from all armed forces around the 
> world that was brilliant and appreciated. Then he fell in love, had a 
> wonderful marriage ceremony etc. but what happened next is all about  being 
> married, lots of give & take and I want to live in America!
>
> Now for the electrical situation in "The Kingdom", please full title "The 
> United Kingdom" as that covers England, Scotland, Wales and Northern 
> Ireland.  
>
> The UK standard AC Voltage is 50 cycles 230 Volts, our wall sockets 
> provide 13 amps on a Three Pin Socket or Plugs and there can be multiple 
> sockets because the circuit is normally wired as a Ring Main, very 
> occasionally as a Spur. Ring Main Circuits can be fused at different 
> levels.  Why we use 415 volts 3 phase supply is explained in the attached 
> PDF. I wish that PDF had been around in 1960 when I did my initial Royal 
> Air Force Radar Course at age 18. I found that on line because whilst I 
> have my RAF Course Notes still they were not to hand.
>
> Cheers
>
> Roger UK
>
>
> 
> From: M.W.Foscue
> Received: 29/05/2020 16:41:04 +01:00
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> Richard (or anyone else knowledgeable re: this question),
>
> The "standard" household electricity in the USA is 120v/60 cycles.  All 
> homes have 220 volts coming into the house - and a few circuits that use 
> the 220.  Some of those are: electric water heaters and stoves/ovens, 
> heating/air conditioning units, clothes dryers, electric vehicle charging 
> boxes, and home shops (if you have the shop wired for one or more 220 
> outlets).
> I understand that most larger shop machines (like table saws, planers, 
> shapers, etc.) run "better" when wired for and plugged into 220 v power.
>
> It is my understanding that The Kingdom runs "normally" with 220v/50 
> cycles to the home.  (Is that correct?)
>
> My question is:  Why go through the effort (and expense?) to change the 
> power to, not only 415 volts, but also 3 phase?
> What are the pros & cons?
>
> Cheers! (and stay Healthy!)
> Mac
> (PS:  PLEASE "recall" your wandering "Prince & Princess".  Neither Canada 
> nor the USA need them over here.)
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Richard Ellis 
> Sent: May 29, 2020 3:10 AM 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> Subject: Re: REVO PICS 
>
> Curt
> The Samson box is an inverter that changes 240 volt single phase into 415 
> 3 phase. That drives my spindle. I can control the speed easily and program 
> it so set the ramp up or down i:e how fast is starts up or slows down.
> I am thinking of making a control for the leadscrew using a motor driving 
> a small pulley. This is just to assist me !! I get fed up turning the 
> handle when doing long spindle work.
> Richard
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:52:16 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
> Thank you, for the pix's.
>
> I do have a few questions.
>
> on photo #2 the end view, what is that steel bracket with the slot?
> Also what is that Samson box? a motor speed control?
>
> I did not know that the rail orientation is not the same as my 1000ex.'s 
> your top slides are using the wide slot.  
> If someone would convert linear slides onto this machine, it would be nice 
> to make sure the slides look as they were made to fit this machine, the 
> 16mm fit like a glove on the thin side of the rails,  Let me check.
> Ive got both 16mm linear slides as well as 20mm linear slides, Let me take 
> a look at the two and see which looks better on the wide slide.
> Can you also take a photo of the Y movement. (how the router is mounted to 
> the carriage?)
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:58:21 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Curt,
> Here are a few pics of my Revo. Don't hesitate to ask questi

Re: REVO PICS

2020-05-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Curt
The Samson box is an inverter that changes 240 volt single phase into 415 3 
phase. That drives my spindle. I can control the speed easily and program 
it so set the ramp up or down i:e how fast is starts up or slows down.
I am thinking of making a control for the leadscrew using a motor driving a 
small pulley. This is just to assist me !! I get fed up turning the 
handle when doing long spindle work.
Richard

On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:52:16 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Thank you, for the pix's.
>
> I do have a few questions.
>
> on photo #2 the end view, what is that steel bracket with the slot?
> Also what is that Samson box? a motor speed control?
>
> I did not know that the rail orientation is not the same as my 1000ex.'s 
> your top slides are using the wide slot.  
> If someone would convert linear slides onto this machine, it would be nice 
> to make sure the slides look as they were made to fit this machine, the 
> 16mm fit like a glove on the thin side of the rails,  Let me check.
> Ive got both 16mm linear slides as well as 20mm linear slides, Let me take 
> a look at the two and see which looks better on the wide slide.
> Can you also take a photo of the Y movement. (how the router is mounted to 
> the carriage?)
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:58:21 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt,
> Here are a few pics of my Revo. Don't hesitate to ask questions and it 
> applies to anyone who is interested
> Richard
>
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Re: REVO PICS

2020-05-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Curt
 I have made it longer ---followed Bill idea That is why I bought the 900.
Today I have been making a pair of wooden handles for a draw knife Using a
template.
Bit of a fiddle ,could have done it much faster on an ordinary lathe.
What got me into a Legacy was a staircase and gallery that I did for a
house I built. 200 spindles were made using a little* trend copy lathe *
Richard

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> Thank you Richard.
> that is a pretty neat machine, To small for my uses at this time. but
> defiantly something I would like to get my hands on someday.
> Not all that many years ago there was a company called Maxus (Multi axis
> machine...?) which was similar but different, That company died, and
> removed all the videos and info. about there equipment off the web. but...
> Having the view of the cutting with out the rails in the way is something
> that I very much like.
>
> Did you say you were planning to make your REVO longer?  I think that
> would be a nice touch...
>
> thank you.
> HAVE A Good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 03:12:31 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd.ell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Curt
>  I assume you mean the bracket with the 5/8" hole in it and a small screw
> hole. It is for fitting the drive motor to the leadscrew. the bracket with
> the curved slot is for when it is required to angle the bed. I have never
> tried it but Tim, I think has. The white plastic tube with the wooden knob
> is a dust cover for my height adjuster ---Stops the dust getting into the
> Allen screw. Rails of course are different as the rotary table and other
> stuff are on the front of the Revo ---not like the 900 etc.
> Richard
>
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:52:16 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Thank you, for the pix's.
>
> I do have a few questions.
>
> on photo #2 the end view, what is that steel bracket with the slot?
> Also what is that Samson box? a motor speed control?
>
> I did not know that the rail orientation is not the same as my 1000ex.'s
> your top slides are using the wide slot.
> If someone would convert linear slides onto this machine, it would be nice
> to make sure the slides look as they were made to fit this machine, the
> 16mm fit like a glove on the thin side of the rails,  Let me check.
> Ive got both 16mm linear slides as well as 20mm linear slides, Let me take
> a look at the two and see which looks better on the wide slide.
> Can you also take a photo of the Y movement. (how the router is mounted to
> the carriage?)
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:58:21 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Curt,
> Here are a few pics of my Revo. Don't hesitate to ask questions and it
> applies to anyone who is interested
> Richard
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Re: REVO PICS

2020-05-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Curt
 I assume you mean the bracket with the 5/8" hole in it and a small screw 
hole. It is for fitting the drive motor to the leadscrew. the bracket with 
the curved slot is for when it is required to angle the bed. I have never 
tried it but Tim, I think has. The white plastic tube with the wooden knob 
is a dust cover for my height adjuster ---Stops the dust getting into the 
Allen screw. Rails of course are different as the rotary table and other 
stuff are on the front of the Revo ---not like the 900 etc.
Richard

On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:52:16 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Thank you, for the pix's.
>
> I do have a few questions.
>
> on photo #2 the end view, what is that steel bracket with the slot?
> Also what is that Samson box? a motor speed control?
>
> I did not know that the rail orientation is not the same as my 1000ex.'s 
> your top slides are using the wide slot.  
> If someone would convert linear slides onto this machine, it would be nice 
> to make sure the slides look as they were made to fit this machine, the 
> 16mm fit like a glove on the thin side of the rails,  Let me check.
> Ive got both 16mm linear slides as well as 20mm linear slides, Let me take 
> a look at the two and see which looks better on the wide slide.
> Can you also take a photo of the Y movement. (how the router is mounted to 
> the carriage?)
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 06:58:21 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt,
> Here are a few pics of my Revo. Don't hesitate to ask questions and it 
> applies to anyone who is interested
> Richard
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Re: Zig Zag patterns.

2020-05-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
 The 2nd and fourth would be a challenge---the zig zag  cuts.The small
carving near impossible!!
Richard

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> Hello Everyone.
>
> I found some pictures of some stone columns that has a unique pattern.
> I think would be fun to try to make on the Legacy.
> I have not made it, Yet.  (AND have not even attempted to do so yet.)
>
> What I thought would be fun is to ask everyone in the group, how would you
> make something like this? ((Zig Zag pattern.))
>
> There is almost 1000 ways to do anything.
> The idea for this group, came form the willingness to learn and grow in
> our wood working.
>
> Think of this as a challenge to grow.  and to help others grow though your
> experiences.
> Size/scale of this project dose not need to be big.
> Can you think of a way to maintain a pattern like this is the goal. How
> you do it is up to you...
> Lets hear your ideas.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-27 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
Will do. Have to charge the camera battery up!! My mobile phone does not do 
pics, in actual fact still has money left on it from 3 years ago -It 
started out with £10.00 You may think why.
Richard

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 3:03:00 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Richard could you post a few pictures of your REVO  I would very much like 
> to see it.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 04:28:56 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Curt
> Have now been able to reply. The Revo that I managed to persuade the owner 
> to part with. It was first bought by an old member of this group ( Maccwag 
> ) or some name like that ---All bells and whistles __ I have put a Vari 
> power drive to the headstock ---so much better and a live tailstock. 
> That I made when I had my metal work lathe. And off course the longer rails 
> from the 900. Some important bits missing from that. It ,the 900 does come 
> in handy when planing small bits of tough wood.
> All the best
>  Richard
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 3:20:11 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello and Good morning.
>
> Making a high-bread Revo is something that I would like to know more 
> about. 
> Please let us know what you do and how you did what you did, on this 
> project.
>
> One small note.   16mm full supported linear slides fit the Legacy alum, 
> rail like a glove, If you are going to modifie your machine, I rec e mend 
> it over the old glides/slides.
> https://www.amazon.com/SHZOND- Linear-0-78-47-Bearing- 
> Routers/dp/B07DYQS23Q/ref=sr_ 1_12?dchild=1=16mm+ 
> linear+rails=1590329891& sr=8-12 
> <https://www.amazon.com/SHZOND-Linear-0-78-47-Bearing-Routers/dp/B07DYQS23Q/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1=16mm+linear+rails=1590329891=8-12>
>  
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:23:54 AM EDT, Bawdsey64  
> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Richard
>
> You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, 
> they I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they 
> need it whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in 
> the case of Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the 
> barricade. I sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now 
> since retirement I have helped a couple move on. 
>
> You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the 
> Legacy", the UK version of the game.
>
> Never mind eh!
>
> Roger
>
> 
>
>
> 
> From: Richard Ellis
> Received: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
> get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
> The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
> half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
> The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
> leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
> the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
> thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
> it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
> bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
> Revo even better.
> In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
> users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on 
> this site from you lately.
> Keep safe in this lock down
> Richard
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Re: A Question of Technique

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis

Jon
I just put  blank the between centers It does not even have to be square 
i:e 2.5 inches by 3inches,Just have to go steady. Of course it does help if 
it close to the dia. that you require, However if you do want to make it 
octagonal just lock the spindle a few times and run the router along it.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 4:24:29 PM UTC+1, The Viking wrote:
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>
> Hello all,
>
>
> I’ve got a question of technique; hopefully not too basic.
>
>
> My daughter asked me to make her a couple small patio tables, and I 
> started with the legs. I used my jointer to get two edges of white oak 
> stock flat and square; then moved on to the table saw to mill the other two 
> edges to get blanks 1 ¾ x 1 ¾ x 20. I mounted the Russ V inspired milling 
> table on my LOM 900 to cut out the mortises with a 3/8 straight router bit. 
> Then I removed the milling table, installed index hubs on the blanks and 
> mounted them on the Legacy for spindle work to make them round with a 
> slight taper. Add three coves near the top and a couple near the bottom and 
> I’ve got nice looking table legs.
>
>
> As I was doing all this, the question crossed my mind: could I have done 
> all this on the LOM? From squaring to mortises to tapering and rounding all 
> while on the Legacy in the spindle turning set-up?
>
>
> I asked Curt this question. He told me that he does his mortises on the 
> Legacy in the spindle mode, but he’s found that it’s necessary to lock the 
> tail stock end as well as the head stock. He suggested that I post the 
> question to the group to see what others do.
>
>
> So, may I ask for the forum’s wisdom. What are the steps you take to make 
> your round table legs?
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>  
>
> Jon
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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
Have now been able to reply. The Revo that I managed to persuade the owner 
to part with. It was first bought by an old member of this group ( Maccwag 
) or some name like that ---All bells and whistles __ I have put a Vari 
power drive to the headstock ---so much better and a live tailstock. 
That I made when I had my metal work lathe. And off course the longer rails 
from the 900. Some important bits missing from that. It ,the 900 does come 
in handy when planing small bits of tough wood.
All the best
 Richard

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 3:20:11 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello and Good morning.
>
> Making a high-bread Revo is something that I would like to know more 
> about. 
> Please let us know what you do and how you did what you did, on this 
> project.
>
> One small note.   16mm full supported linear slides fit the Legacy alum, 
> rail like a glove, If you are going to modifie your machine, I rec e mend 
> it over the old glides/slides.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/SHZOND-Linear-0-78-47-Bearing-Routers/dp/B07DYQS23Q/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1=16mm+linear+rails=1590329891=8-12
>  
> [image: Inline image]
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020, 07:23:54 AM EDT, Bawdsey64  > wrote: 
>
>
> Hi Richard
>
> You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, 
> they I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they 
> need it whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in 
> the case of Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the 
> barricade. I sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now 
> since retirement I have helped a couple move on. 
>
> You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the 
> Legacy", the UK version of the game.
>
> Never mind eh!
>
> Roger
>
> 
>
>
> 
> From: Richard Ellis
> Received: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
> get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
> The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
> half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
> The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
> leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
> the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
> thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
> it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
> bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
> Revo even better.
> In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
> users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on 
> this site from you lately.
> Keep safe in this lock down
> Richard
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Re: Revo & 900

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis

Roger
You are quite right about me being no god at hunt the legacy. I am not much 
good at most things, but muddle through!!!?

On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 12:23:51 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
>
> Hi Richard
>
> You have to understand Legacy owners, some user the machine all the time, 
> they I would suggest are few. Some have it in their armoury for when they 
> need it whilst a few just have one. It is the same with many tools but in 
> the case of Legacy machines in the UK very few pop their head up above the 
> barricade. I sold over a hundred machines, including 30 plus REVOs. Now 
> since retirement I have helped a couple move on. 
>
> You have to face the fact you are not very good at playing "Hunt the 
> Legacy", the UK version of the game.
>
> Never mind eh!
>
> Roger
>
> 
>
>
> 
> From: Richard Ellis
> Received: 24/05/2020 12:04:00 +01:00
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
> I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to 
> get the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
> The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
> half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
> The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
> leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
> the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
> thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
> it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
> bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
> Revo even better.
> In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy 
> users Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on 
> this site from you lately.
> Keep safe in this lock down
> Richard
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Re: Posting replies to members

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
 This is strange I have tried to post by the REPLY method as I am doing 
now. Will see if it works!!!

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> I can see this message Richard
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 26 May 2020 5:42 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Posting replies to members
>
>  
>
> For some reason I can't post a Reply to Bill or Roger on the Group I can 
> of course send an email to them both but wanted it to show on this group 
>  Any ideas as to why ??
>
> Richard U.K.
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Posting replies to members

2020-05-26 Thread Richard Ellis

For some reason I can't post a Reply to Bill or Roger on the Group I can of 
course send an email to them both but wanted it to show on this group  
Any ideas as to why ??
Richard U.K.

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Revo & 900

2020-05-24 Thread Richard Ellis

I have a Revo and also a 900 ,The 900 I do not want I just bought it to get 
the Rails from it to fit the Revo ( to extend it )
The 900 came with the Z and various other bits and bobs, although some are 
half missing bits, i:e to make any use of them
The bits I was thinking of fitting to the Revo are:-  Dust shields and 
leadscrew of the carriage,I have the Z but do not use it as it came with 
the 900 and I did not buy the 110 volt converter and router. I have been 
thinking of putting it on the Revo. However having had bad reports about 
it's behavior  I am still not decided Bill in Aussie did want it.But was a 
bit of a hassle with postage.Has anyone used bits from the 900 to make the 
Revo even better.
In the U.K. I have found only one Revo owner,, or in fact, any Legacy users 
Ray ,, are you still active and O.K.??? Have not seen a post on this 
site from you lately.
Keep safe in this lock down
Richard

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Re: Router work

2020-01-03 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks for the replies . What I wondered. is how to do the slow spiral, 
that is shown on the item in the chuck.
I have no problem doing template work and reeding with the the gear 's I do 
have a 38 and I think a 40 tooth gear.
The Revo is an excellent LOM for doing everything except larger diameter 
rotary table work. More so since I like Bill have made it longer,Thanks 
Bill .
Richard

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 9:57:03 AM UTC, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Any idea how this was done ?? I was posted on another woodworking forum.  
> Can this be done on a LOM ---not CNC 
> Richard
>   [image: DSC04495msa.jpg]
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Router work

2020-01-01 Thread Richard Ellis

Any idea how this was done ?? I was posted on another woodworking forum.  
Can this be done on a LOM ---not CNC 
Richard
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Re: Indexing Alternatives

2019-12-04 Thread Richard Ellis

Thanks Tim
Very interesting
Richard

On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:39:22 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> I don't think I have shared this web page with the general group... 
>
> http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/index.html 
>
> It's going to be migrated to the ornamentalmills.com site at some point. 
>
> I hope it's of some interest as it was to me when I made it. 
>
> -Tim 
>
> PS Please don't share this link as it won't be around much longer. 
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Re: Leveling 900 Rails

2019-11-30 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
Further to my post a few minutes ago. I do not intend to keep the shortened 
900 .in fact I have had it up for sale for weeks and no one wants it., 
£600  o.n.o
I do not want to spend any money on it ,just time and out of interest. It 
is just another challenge???
Richard

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 9:20:39 AM UTC, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Bill
> I wonder what the rods were like ,or if they were round or flat rods. 
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 8:42:33 AM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> The slots were put there to line up the rails to to set the bed heights 
>> but they never were really accurate I feel.
>>
>> But see what you come up with Richard you might work something better let 
>> me know how you get on 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 30 November 2019 7:09 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Leveling 900 Rails
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> I fully understand that Tim's tool is an excellent idea. But I am 
>> interested as to why the slots were put there. I am sure Legacy did not 
>> just put them there for no good reason.
>>
>> Did you see my old post when I showed the adjustment  for the Revo?
>>
>> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:42:46 PM UTC, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> I have seen Tims device but it looks a lot like the supports that are on 
>> the 900 With all the slots See pics
>>
>>  
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Re: Leveling 900 Rails

2019-11-30 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
I wonder what the rods were like ,or if they were round or flat rods. 
Richard

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 8:42:33 AM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>
> The slots were put there to line up the rails to to set the bed heights 
> but they never were really accurate I feel.
>
> But see what you come up with Richard you might work something better let 
> me know how you get on 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Saturday, 30 November 2019 7:09 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Leveling 900 Rails
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
> I fully understand that Tim's tool is an excellent idea. But I am 
> interested as to why the slots were put there. I am sure Legacy did not 
> just put them there for no good reason.
>
> Did you see my old post when I showed the adjustment  for the Revo?
>
> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:42:46 PM UTC, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> I have seen Tims device but it looks a lot like the supports that are on 
> the 900 With all the slots See pics
>
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Re: Leveling 900 Rails

2019-11-30 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
I fully understand that Tim's tool is an excellent idea. But I am 
interested as to why the slots were put there. I am sure Legacy did not 
just put them there for no good reason.
Did you see my old post when I showed the adjustment  for the Revo?

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:42:46 PM UTC, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> I have seen Tims device but it looks a lot like the supports that are on 
> the 900 With all the slots See pics
>
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Re: Leveling 900 Rails

2019-11-29 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
I was wondering as to what the slots were for.  As I have not seen another 
900 I don't know if all 900's had them.
I intend to make a small jig , may have to enlarge the slots.
Has anyone on the group done anything similar?? 
Certainly making jigs is all part of playing with the LOM's I have made  
quite a few for my Revo
Richard 

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 4:18:47 PM UTC, Curt George wrote:
>
> Hello Richard
> Tim's jig/device was made to improve the height adjustment for exactly the 
> same types of units you show in your pictures. the staircase alignment slot 
> in the legs of your unit (shown in the picture), were not as users friendly 
> OR precise as
> what Legacy use to make (in the earlier Legacy models).
> By no means is Tim's jig necessary,to make the bench top unit work, it is 
> only a simpler way to get the exact height you want in the rail adjustment. 
> (A jig, is any tool that makes the job easier to do/perform) .  This is 
> exactly what those plates do.They make the alignment of the Legacy's rails 
> easier and more precise.  Its up to the person using the Legacy to decide 
> if they are needed or not.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, November 29, 2019, 09:42:52 AM EST, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
>
>
> I have seen Tims device but it looks a lot like the supports that are on 
> the 900 With all the slots See pics
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A bastard CNC

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Ellis

https://machineatlas.com/guides/new-hand-operated-cnc-machine-an-in-depth-look/

I just copied and pasted this.. It may be of interest ??
Richard

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Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Tim
Yes I have seen the tools  The big question... how much will it be 
delivered to the U.K.
Richard

On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 9:45:23 AM UTC, Tim wrote:
>
> Okay, I thought there was a problem in the rails. You need one of my  bed 
> height tool.
>
>
> http://www.artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/bedheightadjustment/bedheightadjustment.html
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 11/28/19 1:28 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace 
>
> Tim
> I take it that you are replying to my problems with the 900.
> The rails don't sag they are just difficult to raise up and down. They 
> will get a bit off lube on them next time I use it.
> The way I did it --Loosen all four Allen screws then 
> the movable rails are balanced ,,On the scissor lift, raise it up to the 
> required height the once level tighten Allen screws  Much easier than 
> trying to hold the rails by hand.
> Richard
>
> On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 9:09:20 AM UTC, Tim wrote:
>>
>> How much was it sagging I initially? Did you do the simple string test to 
>> determine if the rails sagged? You got me curious now
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Richard Ellis  
>> Date: 11/28/19 12:52 AM (GMT-08:00) 
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills  
>> Subject: Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace 
>>
>> Bill I agree about the chuck It can foul the carriage if doing small 
>> objects. ash tree ---good wood for tool handles. and wooden pegs.
>> Today I used my 900 for the first time The adjustment of the rails are a 
>> pain in the "butt " I had to resort to putting my car scissor lift in the 
>> center of the 900 and gently controlling the height that way
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 10:51:24 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes but for practise doesn’t matter if it moves or even cracks later, 
>>> your only practising I have cut and milled green wood strait off the live 
>>> tree just to see how it goes 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 November 2019 6:52 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hey Mark absolutely all wood is good wood. And is beautiful in the eyes 
>>> of the beholder. You are probably going to want to get it dried if you
>>>
>>> want to use it right away.  Other wise it will twist and move and do all 
>>> kinds of wood drying movement. 
>>>
>>> If you have a band saw you might beagle to cut some boards  out of it. 
>>> Either way free wood is always a blessing. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:05 PM Mark  wrote:
>>>
>>> Just had a small ash tree fall (maybe 12" diameter at maximum ) in my 
>>> backyard.  Missed the cars which was good.  Tree looks like it has been 
>>> dead for some time and the wood looks pretty dry.  Is it worth cutting up a 
>>> few of the straight portions for learning on the Legacy ?
>>>
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Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim
I take it that you are replying to my problems with the 900.
The rails don't sag they are just difficult to raise up and down. They will 
get a bit off lube on them next time I use it.
The way I did it --Loosen all four Allen screws then 
the movable rails are balanced ,,On the scissor lift, raise it up to the 
required height the once level tighten Allen screws  Much easier than 
trying to hold the rails by hand.
Richard

On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 9:09:20 AM UTC, Tim wrote:
>
> How much was it sagging I initially? Did you do the simple string test to 
> determine if the rails sagged? You got me curious now
>
>  Original message ----
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 11/28/19 12:52 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace 
>
> Bill I agree about the chuck It can foul the carriage if doing small 
> objects. ash tree ---good wood for tool handles. and wooden pegs.
> Today I used my 900 for the first time The adjustment of the rails are a 
> pain in the "butt " I had to resort to putting my car scissor lift in the 
> center of the 900 and gently controlling the height that way
>
> On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 10:51:24 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Yes but for practise doesn’t matter if it moves or even cracks later, 
>> your only practising I have cut and milled green wood strait off the live 
>> tree just to see how it goes 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 November 2019 6:52 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hey Mark absolutely all wood is good wood. And is beautiful in the eyes 
>> of the beholder. You are probably going to want to get it dried if you
>>
>> want to use it right away.  Other wise it will twist and move and do all 
>> kinds of wood drying movement. 
>>
>> If you have a band saw you might beagle to cut some boards  out of it. 
>> Either way free wood is always a blessing. 
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>  
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:05 PM Mark  wrote:
>>
>> Just had a small ash tree fall (maybe 12" diameter at maximum ) in my 
>> backyard.  Missed the cars which was good.  Tree looks like it has been 
>> dead for some time and the wood looks pretty dry.  Is it worth cutting up a 
>> few of the straight portions for learning on the Legacy ?
>>
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Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace

2019-11-28 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill I agree about the chuck It can foul the carriage if doing small 
objects. ash tree ---good wood for tool handles. and wooden pegs.
Today I used my 900 for the first time The adjustment of the rails are a 
pain in the "butt " I had to resort to putting my car scissor lift in the 
center of the 900 and gently controlling the height that way

On Wednesday, November 27, 2019 at 10:51:24 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>
> Yes but for practise doesn’t matter if it moves or even cracks later, your 
> only practising I have cut and milled green wood strait off the live tree 
> just to see how it goes 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, 28 November 2019 6:52 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: $500 Legacy on the marketplace
>
>  
>
> Hey Mark absolutely all wood is good wood. And is beautiful in the eyes of 
> the beholder. You are probably going to want to get it dried if you
>
> want to use it right away.  Other wise it will twist and move and do all 
> kinds of wood drying movement. 
>
> If you have a band saw you might beagle to cut some boards  out of it. 
> Either way free wood is always a blessing. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:05 PM Mark > 
> wrote:
>
> Just had a small ash tree fall (maybe 12" diameter at maximum ) in my 
> backyard.  Missed the cars which was good.  Tree looks like it has been 
> dead for some time and the wood looks pretty dry.  Is it worth cutting up a 
> few of the straight portions for learning on the Legacy ?
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Re: Rotary table Revo cum 900

2019-11-25 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
I will have to see if I can get another table- at a sensible price. 
If not,, your suggestion is the one to use. Then that's one for both LOM's
Richard

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 8:58:48 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>
> The revos rotary table is narrower than the one on the 900 so it wont fit, 
> you will need to widen the revo rotary table to get it to fit the 900 I 
> would bolt 2 strips of metal plate each side of the rotary table to make it 
> the right width to fit the 900, bolting not welding means the table can be 
> used on both mills.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 November 2019 2:15 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Rotary table Revo cum 900
>
>  
>
> I have a Revo and am thinking of putting the Legacy rotary table onto the 
> 900 . I have just measured the gap between the upper and lower rails. It 
> does not seem very much where the table would sit . It maybe o.k. for a 
> thin table top.!!! How much is it with a normal table that comes with a 900 
> ?? 
>
> Richard
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Rotary table Revo cum 900

2019-11-24 Thread Richard Ellis

I have a Revo and am thinking of putting the Legacy rotary table onto the 
900 . I have just measured the gap between the upper and lower rails. It 
does not seem very much where the table would sit . It maybe o.k. for a 
thin table top.!!! How much is it with a normal table that comes with a 900 
?? 
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Re: Z carriage & plunge Router

2019-11-24 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill
I think your idea will work but will look into it a little further. My 
other thoughts are to put the Z onto the Revo  however I am wondering if 
the rails will flex too much. with the extra weight of a Triton Router.

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 2:24:43 AM UTC, Tim wrote:
>
> The z axis is made for the porter-cable 7518. I think the body was 4.2 
> inches. I never heard of any other mounting option.  Personally I like the 
> idea of using a 3.5 inch diameter body. There is a much larger options 
> available. I really like the bosch 1617. 
>
> On Nov 23, 2019, at 5:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>> Neat idea Bill 
>>
>> I'm not sure that's possible, but I do like the idea... ;-) 
>>
>> If my memory serves me correctly, the Z axis was made with the Porter 
>> Cable Router  
>> in mind.   
>> With-out a true measurement, I can not be sure,  I would think most 
>> standard routers (appx. 3 1/2" body) will fit onto the Z axis. 
>>
>> I will do some research and get back to you on this topic. 
>>
>> C.A.G. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 23, 2019, 07:49:01 PM EST, > > wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Just get a 10mm  thick aluminium  right angle the width of your z axis 
>> and bolt it on and bolt the router to it and there you go you could even 
>> have it tilting if you wanted .
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Ellis
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 24 November 2019 12:08 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > >
>> *Subject:* Z carriage & plunge Router
>>
>>  
>>
>> I have a Z attachment that came with my 900 , but no router. I would like 
>> to fit a 1/2 inch plunge router ,,i:e Triton ,Dewalt  or suchlike . to it.
>>
>>  Or would it be best to look for a spindle router,as on CNC machines
>>
>> Richard
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Z carriage & plunge Router

2019-11-23 Thread Richard Ellis

I have a Z attachment that came with my 900 , but no router. I would like 
to fit a 1/2 inch plunge router ,,i:e Triton ,Dewalt  or suchlike . to it.
 Or would it be best to look for a spindle router,as on CNC machines
Richard

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Interesting charts

2019-11-05 Thread Richard Ellis

I hope this is useful ,That is if you can get it   blocklayer.com
Richard

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Template support brackets

2019-09-27 Thread Richard Ellis

Help needed
I have used a support for small Template copy's but have fastened it to the 
15 inch long 15 screw hole bit of kit ,, I assume it is for the letter 
copy's that I do not have.
Now I want to support a longer  piece of wood  ---How do others do that 
with the Revo are there different brackets??
Thanks Richard

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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Richard Ellis

The plexi glass top is so I can get the hot melt glue off easily . Revo 
Rotary table, I just can't see how to get a larger dia. or thicker stock in 
it
.If i wanted to fit the Revo Rotary Table to the 900 I would use the 
horizontal vice rails -only fit them under the bed rails. The take 
the brackets off the Rotary table and drill to more holes in the table to 
allow for the gear mechanism.
Richard 

On Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:30:15 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi Bill 
> That is correct  only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.
> I am looking into fitting it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are 
> for the horizontal vice  
> I am not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900
> (no-one seems interested ) Ebay later on ??
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 11:45:29 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
>>
>> The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of 
>> height. on your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I 
>> have 2 a revo one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. *Note the visibility 
>> of it * Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>
>> Pretty Slick! 
>>
>>  
>>
>> You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make 
>> it until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool 
>> envy!)  ;-)
>>
>>  
>>
>> (As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
>> offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.
>>
>>  
>>
>> NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
>>
>>  
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hi Curt
>>
>> I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a 
>> bit longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an 
>> inverter  Suitable for the U.K.
>>
>> The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long 
>> coach bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small 
>> hole in the top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as 
>> the large legacy Allen wrench 
>>
>> I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with 
>> a bit of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine 
>> adjustment by hand  ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
>>
>> Hope you can understand it
>>
>> Richard
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Re: Extended Revo And raiser

2019-09-09 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Bill 
That is correct  only a very thin bit of wood if over 14 inches wide.
I am looking into fitting it to the 900 today. May use the rails that are 
for the horizontal vice  
I am not too bothered with it as I am trying to sell the shortened 900
(no-one seems interested ) Ebay later on ??
Richard

On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 11:45:29 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Nice Richard why the plexiglass top?
>
> The only problem with the revo roatry table is you cant get a lot of 
> height. on your 900 you will I have never tried the revos one on a 900 as I 
> have 2 a revo one and a 900s one be interesting to see how you fit it
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2019 12:35 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: Extended Revo And raiser
>
>  
>
> Thought I would put a pic of my Revo Rotary Table. *Note the visibility 
> of it * Have not tried it on the 900 so don't know if it would be better
>
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 5:01:24 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Pretty Slick! 
>
>  
>
> You almost make me wish I had bought the REVO. (Sadly they did not make it 
> until I had owned my 1000ex for a few years,by then.) (its just tool 
> envy!)  ;-)
>
>  
>
> (As a side note, I called the REVO, a side saddle unit, when Legacy first 
> offered it.) ;-p  Today? Well its a different story.
>
>  
>
> NIce job on both your fine tune risers as well as your spindle work.
>
>  
>
> C.A.G.
>
>  
>
> On Friday, September 6, 2019, 01:34:06 PM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Hi Curt
>
> I thought it best to start a new topic .The Revo is just the same but a 
> bit longer. I have a drive to the spindle 414 v 3 ph. motor through an 
> inverter  Suitable for the U.K.
>
> The raisers at each end are a great help .All they consist of are a long 
> coach bolt with a nut  welded to a bit of angle iron. I drilled a small 
> hole in the top of the bolt and epoxied a set screw in it. ,same size as 
> the large legacy Allen wrench 
>
> I can if a large up or down movement is needed use a cordless drill with a 
> bit of Allen key in it. The wood work on the bolt enables a fine adjustment 
> by hand  ( foregoing the Allen wrench, )
>
> Hope you can understand it
>
> Richard
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Re: Sculpture in wood

2019-09-06 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Curt
The clippings from the hedge are only short ,,just one years growth .You 
would be hard pressed to stick them together to make anything.
Yes, Yew was used for long bows. I did get some for a friend to make a bow. 
( in my lumberjack days ) unfortunately  he died before he finished it. 
The hedge trim technique is called  Topiary 
As you are aware I have just bought a 900 for the rails etc: to make my 
Revo longer.
I am glad I did not buy the 900 to use,, it is not a patch on the Revo ((( 
in my opinion  ??)
  Kind regards  
Richard

On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 12:58:34 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Can you get any of his clippings?  Yew is a pretty neat wood. (short 
> pieces, I remember it was used for long bow's, if memory serves correctly?)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Thursday, September 5, 2019, 04:55:48 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
> rchrd...@gmail.com > wrote: 
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>
> This is what I look at out of my bedroom window in the morning It is a Yew 
> hedge and the man has been cutting it every year for the past 25 years.
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Re: One of four

2019-09-05 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
12 grooves done with a small 1/4 shank 3/8 wide cutter  finished article 
circumference approx 5 1/4 ins. 
Planed wood just over 2 1/4 square.

Decorative holes  Magnate bit no.s  7581 & 7582--  & 7585 Molding  at 
each end . it will be for a foot stool ,, don.t know how to finish the feet 
!!  

On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 11:52:56 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
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> Very nice Richard tell us what bits and number of grooves ect.
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
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> Todays work 
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Re: TESTING

2019-09-03 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Tim
Thanks for the instructions re email It now works o.k.
Richard

On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 3:42:55 PM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>
> Howdy do Mac. ;-)
>
> All Good things must end. (by by Summer.)
> I hope you enjoy your Labor's today. ;-p
> As for me, any two days off in a row, is a Long weekend for me, I have 
> three day's off this weekend (do to the holiday)  I feel like I'm on 
> Vacation ! ;-)
>
> Just wanted to wish everyone a Great holiday.  Enjoy!!!
>
> C.A.G.
> On Monday, September 2, 2019, 10:24:05 AM EDT, MWF  > wrote: 
>
>
> Referred to as "Labor Day" (Labour in the Kingdom?).  It is our 
> "semi-official" End of Summer - when most all schools have started back.
> Mac
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> -Original Message- 
> From: artmarbles 
> Sent: Sep 2, 2019 4:02 AM 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: TESTING 
>
> Actually it is an American holiday this weekend!
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 9/2/19 12:42 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: TESTING 
>
> Hi Tim
> Have done that but have not seen any new posts yet   The group see 
> very quiet ,, is everyone on holiday.?
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:07:30 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> You need to go to the Google site and change your settings to receive post 
> via email and you will be good to go.
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> Date: 8/31/19 11:31 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: TESTING 
>
> Not sure why your not getting replies by email but at least you can post 
> to the group by email. There must be a setting somewhere that needs 
> clicking to receive them.
>
>  
>
> The revo looks good just like mine
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com  
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2019 10:27 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: TESTING
>
>  
>
> Bill 
>
> Must be coming by sea as I have not got it or anything else. But I just 
> took this pic of my lengthened Revo I do hope other Revo owners in the U.K. 
> could put a pic or two of theirs 
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 12:21:54 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
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> Glad to here it this reply should arrive in your email inbox
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups. com  
> *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2019 8:27 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: TESTING
>
>  
>
> And it worked
>
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 11:25:31 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
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> Bill
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> Just trying your method
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Re: TESTING

2019-09-02 Thread Richard Ellis

Hi Tim
Have done that but have not seen any new posts yet   The group see very 
quiet ,, is everyone on holiday.?
Richard

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 10:07:30 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
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> You need to go to the Google site and change your settings to receive post 
> via email and you will be good to go.
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
>  Original message 
> From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au  
> Date: 8/31/19 11:31 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: RE: TESTING 
>
> Not sure why your not getting replies by email but at least you can post 
> to the group by email. There must be a setting somewhere that needs 
> clicking to receive them.
>
>  
>
> The revo looks good just like mine
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2019 10:27 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills  >
> *Subject:* Re: TESTING
>
>  
>
> Bill 
>
> Must be coming by sea as I have not got it or anything else. But I just 
> took this pic of my lengthened Revo I do hope other Revo owners in the U.K. 
> could put a pic or two of theirs 
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 12:21:54 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Glad to here it this reply should arrive in your email inbox
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2019 8:27 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: TESTING
>
>  
>
> And it worked
>
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 11:25:31 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote:
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> Bill
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> Just trying your method
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TESTING

2019-08-31 Thread Richard Ellis

Bill
Just trying your method

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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-31 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim
What a muddle this google site is
I was typing my message re DIAMOND and all of a sudden a little note came 
up in the right corner of the screen that another message had come in .
My page disappeared!!
Anyway the amount of non-syncro just depends on the turn of the crank 
handle i:e one turn 1/4 inch or in my case how much offset one wants I just 
measured the distance peak to peak and divided in half for my pattern.
That box has just appeared again and if I click on it to see the latest 
message all i get is the screen saying the page is loading and that is all 
. As I said before What a muddle this site is.
Richard

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:53:31 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> The 2.5 I think should be divided by two since the spindle goes through a 
> push and a pull to complete a single wave.  Am I thinking correctly on this?
>
>  Original message ----
> From: Richard Ellis > 
> Date: 8/30/19 4:05 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills > 
>
> Subject: Re: TK Reciprocater long curves 
>
> Hi Tim & Timothy
> All interesting stuff.
> When I did my latest as shown in the pic
>  I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches.
> After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the 
> start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the 
> crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the 
> carriage back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the 
> remaing three cuts.
> All good practice and fun
> Richard
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote:
>>
>> Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do that. 
>> And of course build the attachment.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop
>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim  wrote:
>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how 
>>> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° 
>>> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer pitches.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
>>> time 
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Re: TK Reciprocater long curves

2019-08-31 Thread Richard Ellis

Tim
I think I have done all I want to at the present time
I started on this WAVE caper to see if I could make DIAMOND shapes on the 
coat stand I was making WHY it was our 60th wedding 
anniversary, Now I will have to think of what to do for the 70th one ??!!
Richard

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 8:35:43 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> I'm sitting in my lazyboy recliner right now and thinking about adding 
> more amplitude. It would be possible to increase the travel of the twist by 
> relocating the location of the connection on the index plate. So instead of 
> mounting the connecting arm on the 4" diameter, make a arm that extends the 
> location to say a 8" or 12" location.  That way the spindle will twist more 
> for the amount of offset.  It was something I did not include in the 
> original design nor did I try it out, but I've seen a couple of 
> Reciprocators that use this technique.  
>
> Good luck and I hope you try this out Richard.
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 4:18 AM, Tim Ziegler > 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hey thanks for that and good to see someone up at the same time as me. 
>> lol 
>> I have a bunch of spindles to get done today on my lathe but if time 
>> permits this evening I'm going  
>> to start studying this more. Thanks for sharing.  
>> Kind Regards, 
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler 
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 
>> 14171 160th Ave. 
>> Foreston MN 56330 
>>
>> 320-294-5798 shop 
>> 320-630-2243 cell 
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 6:05 AM Richard Ellis < rchrd...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote: 
>>
>>> Hi Tim & Timothy 
>>> All interesting stuff. 
>>> When I did my latest as shown in the pic 
>>>  I measured the distance of the wave peak to peak,, it was 2.5 inches. 
>>> After doing the first three runs. I returned the carriage back to the 
>>> start by ( crank handle ) Then I wound the carriage forward 6 turns of the 
>>> crank handle. ---Next I disconnected the leadscrew nut and pushed the 
>>> carriage back to the start position,,, re-connected the nut and did the 
>>> remaing three cuts. 
>>> All good practice and fun 
>>> Richard 
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:47:26 AM UTC+1, Tim Ziegler wrote: 
>>>>
>>>> Seeing all this Wave, now I'm going to have to figure out how to do 
>>>> that.  
>>>> And of course build the attachment. 
>>>> Kind Regards, 
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler 
>>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 
>>>> 14171 160th Ave. 
>>>> Foreston MN 56330 
>>>>
>>>> 320-294-5798 shop 
>>>> 320-630-2243 cell 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:30 AM Tim < artma...@comcast.net> wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I like it.  You want to increase the amplitude, but by how 
>>>>> much?  I’ll take a look at some possibilities that would give you 90° 
>>>>> travel of the spindle.  It would only be able to be used on longer 
>>>>> pitches.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> If Bill nows already how much offset is needed, he could save me some 
>>>>> time 
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