RE: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

2012-02-22 Thread Bernhard Scholz
Shirley,

where did you buy it.

Bernhard



From: Shirley Richardson [mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz]
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Good news for Kiwis.

I have just received my Flip-Pal from Jan Gow, Beehive Books,
jan...@beehivebooks.co.nz


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Re: [LegacyUG] Children of unmarried couple?

2012-02-22 Thread Lloyd Hite
On 2/21/2012 11:35 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
 Legacy likes to call them spouses even after you have clicked on this
 couple didn't marryG they were a couple for a bit - no matter how
 brieflyG

In God's eyes, they are married once they come together for sex.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Children of unmarried couple?

2012-02-22 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 22/02/2012 03:32, Marg Strong wrote:
 There is a record of a birth and the child is registered under the
 father's surname. In all other records she is listed under the surname
 of the man my ancestor married. There were two other children in the
 same situation, but without birth records that I have found, just the
 names, each with different last names. Another researcher who has done a
 lot of work as this is her direct ancestor, has noted that there were no
 marriages for these childdren.

 I entered this first child under the spouse and noted unmarried. but
 the father still shows up under the spouse button. Is that how I should
 do it?

As far as Legacy is concerned spouse means husband or partner or
Person an individual had a one-night stand with.  In reports you can
change the wording to reflect the exact status if you want.  You are
correct to enter the child as if the parents were a married couple, but
to check the This couple never married button.

 And when there is no birth record, but a last name different than the
 mother's, do I enter those two children under the marriage button with
 no name in the father's blank?

I'm assuming you mean there was a child with surname A, 2 children with
surname B and then a husband with surname C.  You will need to give the
woman 2 unmarried partners with their respective children and then a
husband.

 Later when all the children are listed in census and other records by
 the last name of the man my ancestor finally married, is it likely or
 unlikely there was a formal adoption (this is in the late 1800s) or they
 just informally took that name? Should that be noted under notes or in
 the notes in the census record?

For a start, it might depend on what country we are talking about.  I
don't know about the US or elsewhere, but here in the UK (certainly
England  Wales, Scotland might be different) there was no formal
adoption until the 1920s.  On the Census a step-child might well be
given the stepfather's name but there were no legal niceties involved.

When writing up the Source for these entries you should enter the
children's names exactly as they appear in that Source.  So you might
have a birth record showing Joe Bloggs and then a Census record showing
Joe Doe.  You may wish also to enter in Notes that the children
apparently took the name of their stepfather.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
 I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
 members who aren't interested in sources, etc.

I am about to do the same!

  (But I want the sources
 there; perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information
 in an informal way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put
 the information in the census notes (under the detail), it will be more
 difficult to be sure it doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often
 in the census that I find the information I want to note. And Legacy
 reports will need to be edited for the family members I am concerned about.

What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources.

If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
but I don't think that will be necessary.

 Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into,
 that works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal,
 book type of output? A story or history kind of book?

There may be, but I don't know of one.  My method is a bit long-winded
perhaps, but there won't be too many people involved and I will get
exactly the right output for the relative I am doing it for.


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[LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Elizabeth
Last week I got a new computer and successfully loaded Legacy and my
family file on to it.  However, can anyone explain why this is now
called 'Hatchell%20Master(1)' and not HatchellMaster as before?  I
have tried saving it as HatchellMaster but it reloads the first named
file.

I also loaded the new version of Legacy from the Legacy Home page but
now my Tags are not shown anywhere.  Also the ancestor colours no
longer seem to be changeable.  Can anyone explain whether this is due
to the new version of Legacy (mine is now 7.5.0.149 Deluxe Edition) or
something that has happened with the changeover to a new computer.

I used the Windows 7 Easy Transfer to move files across.
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/02/22 13:49, Elizabeth wrote:

 Last week I got a new computer and successfully loaded Legacy and my
 family file on to it.  However, can anyone explain why this is now
 called 'Hatchell%20Master(1)' and not HatchellMaster as before?  I
 have tried saving it as HatchellMaster but it reloads the first named
 file.

Go to Options-- Customise-- General. In the Starting Family, you've probably
set it to Display last viewed family :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Elizabeth,

Whilst I am unable to know how your file name apparently changed, or did it?
'%20' is the code for a space so do you actually have 2 files in your folder
one being Hatchell Master and the other HatchellMaster, and as Mike
suggests, are you now seeing the wrong one?

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:49 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] missing tags

Last week I got a new computer and successfully loaded Legacy and my
family file on to it.  However, can anyone explain why this is now
called 'Hatchell%20Master(1)' and not HatchellMaster as before?  I
have tried saving it as HatchellMaster but it reloads the first named
file.

I also loaded the new version of Legacy from the Legacy Home page but
now my Tags are not shown anywhere.  Also the ancestor colours no
longer seem to be changeable.  Can anyone explain whether this is due
to the new version of Legacy (mine is now 7.5.0.149 Deluxe Edition) or
something that has happened with the changeover to a new computer.

I used the Windows 7 Easy Transfer to move files across.
Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Elizabeth
Yes, it should be a space - I think that's one problem solved and I've
changed the name, removing the space and saved it over the new name so
now, hopefully, it is one again.  I just hope that any changes done
since last week are in the database.

Doesn't explain why tags aren't being shown.  I've tried again to
'show' tags but they just aren't there.  I have ascertained that the
correct ones in use are highlighted to be shown. I cleared all tags
and re-tagged the descendants of one person using no.1 but it just
doesn't appear on the family view page.

Any ideas, please?




On 22 February 2012 12:58, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Elizabeth,

 Whilst I am unable to know how your file name apparently changed, or did it?
 '%20' is the code for a space so do you actually have 2 files in your folder
 one being Hatchell Master and the other HatchellMaster, and as Mike
 suggests, are you now seeing the wrong one?

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:49 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] missing tags

 Last week I got a new computer and successfully loaded Legacy and my
 family file on to it.  However, can anyone explain why this is now
 called 'Hatchell%20Master(1)' and not HatchellMaster as before?  I
 have tried saving it as HatchellMaster but it reloads the first named
 file.

 I also loaded the new version of Legacy from the Legacy Home page but
 now my Tags are not shown anywhere.  Also the ancestor colours no
 longer seem to be changeable.  Can anyone explain whether this is due
 to the new version of Legacy (mine is now 7.5.0.149 Deluxe Edition) or
 something that has happened with the changeover to a new computer.

 I used the Windows 7 Easy Transfer to move files across.
 Thanks.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Cathy-0
Peggy,

I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this 
and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read. 
They seem to like it in this format.

However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information 
that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field 
of the event.  All events and information has been sourced and when I print the 
Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes.  By entering data as 
events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline.

And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that 
family members can easily find anyone of interest to them.

Have you looked at the Descendants Book report?  If not, take a look.

Cathy


  From: Marg Strong
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable 
reports


  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family 
members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there; 
perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal 
way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the 
census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it 
doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the 
information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the 
family members I am concerned about.

  Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that 
works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of 
output? A story or history kind of book?

  Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it 
in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all.

  Thank you if you can help,
  Peggy




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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicated emails

2012-02-22 Thread Tim Rosenlof
It is just a small gmail issue. Maybe someone will help you with a gmail
account

Tim

On 2/22/2012 7:37 AM, Elizabeth wrote:
 Can anyone explain why my emails to Legacy appear twice?  I've tried
 to stop it, but then nothing sends.



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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicated emails

2012-02-22 Thread Elizabeth
Thanks - you may just have to live with it!

On 22 February 2012 15:41, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 It is just a small gmail issue. Maybe someone will help you with a gmail
 account

 Tim

 On 2/22/2012 7:37 AM, Elizabeth wrote:
 Can anyone explain why my emails to Legacy appear twice?  I've tried
 to stop it, but then nothing sends.



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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicated emails

2012-02-22 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:18:21 +, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks - you may just have to live with it!

We don't have to live with it. You do. If you look in the archives
you'll see that the list is only getting a single copy of your emails.
Only you are getting an extra copy.

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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:49:27 +, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
wrote:

I also loaded the new version of Legacy from the Legacy Home page but
now my Tags are not shown anywhere.  Also the ancestor colours no
longer seem to be changeable.  Can anyone explain whether this is due
to the new version of Legacy (mine is now 7.5.0.149 Deluxe Edition) or
something that has happened with the changeover to a new computer.

Sounds like you didn't move any of the files that contain your settings
over to the new computer.

I used the Windows 7 Easy Transfer to move files across.

I guess it wasn't so easy.

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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicated emails

2012-02-22 Thread Elizabeth
Oh, well I can live with it then! Thanks

On 22 February 2012 16:36, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:18:21 +, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

Thanks - you may just have to live with it!

 We don't have to live with it. You do. If you look in the archives
 you'll see that the list is only getting a single copy of your emails.
 Only you are getting an extra copy.

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[LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-22 Thread Elizabeth
My father died when I was a child and when my mother re-married, my
sister (but not my brothers) were adopted by our stepfather.
I have this link on the family tree but I cannot find any way of
omitting my sister and myself from reports.

I tried setting us to private under the second marriage but Legacy
made us private everywhere.

I think it might be easier to delete us from the second marriage
altogether and simply mention the fact that we were adopted (with the
subsequent name change) in the general notes.  However, I am reluctant
to delete myself from the second marriage in case I disappear
altogether.  Should this be an 'unlink' situation?

Any advice welcome.

P.S. Ancestor colours and tagging sorted but still have the report
settings problem.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

2012-02-22 Thread Shirley Richardson
By post from Beehive Books, Auckland via an email (as below) to Jan. Or you 
could phone 09 521 1518.

- Original Message -
  From: Bernhard Scholz
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:08 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ


  Shirley,

  where did you buy it.

  Bernhard

  

  From: Shirley Richardson [mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:54 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ


  Good news for Kiwis.

  I have just received my Flip-Pal from Jan Gow, Beehive Books,
  jan...@beehivebooks.co.nz


  Regards
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[LegacyUG] We just upgraded our mail server

2012-02-22 Thread KenMcGinnis
We just wanted to let everyone know that we just updated our mail server
and hopefully everything will continue as normal.  If you see any problems
with emails let me know.

  Thanks,
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:47:19 +, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
wrote:

Well, yes, I think that is the case. Where should user files be found, please?

Before you try anything...

You say that the version on the new PC is 7.5.0.149. What was the
version on the old PC?

Ideally you should install the same version on both PCs before
transferring you data files and settings files.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Children of unmarried couple?

2012-02-22 Thread Marg Strong


For a start, it might depend on what country we are talking about.

This is Ontario in the late 1800s. Sorry I should have mentioned that.


When writing up the Source for these entries you should enter the
children's names exactly as they appear in that Source.  So you might
have a birth record showing Joe Bloggs and then a Census record showing
Joe Doe.  You may wish also to enter in Notes that the children
apparently took the name of their stepfather.
--
Jenny M Benson


Thank you for the response, Jenny, and thanks to the others. For some reason 
I'm not getting the emails in my email box so I went to the archives to see if 
there were any answers.

(When I cut and pasted this to send a response, it seems the word wrap feature 
of Yahoo mail isn't working. I hope it looks right in yours.)

Now I need to go back and see if there are answers to my other questions!
Peggy



Re: [LegacyUG] Children of unmarried couple?
Jenny M Benson
Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:39:08 -0800
On 22/02/2012 03:32, Marg Strong wrote:
 There is a record of a birth and the child is registered under the
 father's surname. In all other records she is listed under the surname
 of the man my ancestor married. There were two other children in the
 same situation, but without birth records that I have found, just the
 names, each with different last names. Another researcher who has done a
 lot of work as this is her direct ancestor, has noted that there were no
 marriages for these childdren.

 I entered this first child under the spouse and noted unmarried. but
 the father still shows up under the spouse button. Is that how I should
 do it? As far as Legacy is concerned spouse means husband or partner or
Person an individual had a one-night stand with.  In reports you can
change the wording to reflect the exact status if you want.  You are
correct to enter the child as if the parents were a married couple, but
to check the This couple never married button.

 And when there is no birth record, but a last name different than the
 mother's, do I enter those two children under the marriage button with
 no name in the father's blank? I'm assuming you mean there was a child with 
 surname A, 2 children with
surname B and then a husband with surname C.  You will need to give the
woman 2 unmarried partners with their respective children and then a
husband.

 Later when all the children are listed in census and other records by
 the last name of the man my ancestor finally married, is it likely or
 unlikely there was a formal adoption (this is in the late 1800s) or they
 just informally took that name? Should that be noted under notes or in
 the notes in the census record? For a start, it might depend on what country 
 we are talking about.  I
don't know about the US or elsewhere, but here in the UK (certainly
England  Wales, Scotland might be different) there was no formal
adoption until the 1920s.  On the Census a step-child might well be
given the stepfather's name but there were no legal niceties involved. When 
writing up the Source for these entries you should enter the
children's names exactly as they appear in that Source.  So you might
have a birth record showing Joe Bloggs and then a Census record showing
Joe Doe.  You may wish also to enter in Notes that the children
apparently took the name of their stepfather. --
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

2012-02-22 Thread Wendy Howard
Bernhard,

Shirley said in her post where she got it from - Jan Gow at Beehive Books.
Jan is well-known in New Zealand genealogy circles, and was recently
honoured by the country's government for her voluntary work in the field.

Jan also happens to run a business where she sells genealogy resources,
Beehive Books.  It's where I bought my first edition of Legacy.
http://beehivebooks.co.nz/

Kind Regards,
Wendy
(also in New Zealand)

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Bernhard Scholz scholz-c...@gmx.de wrote:

 Shirley,

 where did you buy it.

 Bernhard

 

 From: Shirley Richardson [mailto:shirleyr...@clear.net.nz]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 8:54 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ


 Good news for Kiwis.

 I have just received my Flip-Pal from Jan Gow, Beehive Books,
 jan...@beehivebooks.co.nz


 Regards
 Shirley
 Mt Maunganui
 NZ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-22 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 22/02/2012 16:45, Elizabeth wrote:
 My father died when I was a child and when my mother re-married, my
 sister (but not my brothers) were adopted by our stepfather.
 I have this link on the family tree but I cannot find any way of
 omitting my sister and myself from reports.

 I tried setting us to private under the second marriage but Legacy
 made us private everywhere.

 I think it might be easier to delete us from the second marriage
 altogether and simply mention the fact that we were adopted (with the
 subsequent name change) in the general notes.  However, I am reluctant
 to delete myself from the second marriage in case I disappear
 altogether.  Should this be an 'unlink' situation?


As far as I know there is no way to show children as both the product of
one marriage (or relationship) AND as the (adopted) product of another
marriage unless you enter them into the database twice.  Step-children
can be shown as such under the marriage of their parent and step-parent
and will not appear as descendants of the step-parent.  An adopted child
is generally considered to be as much part of the family as a
blood-related child, so most people would want the to appear in Reports,
albeit with the child status set to Adopted.  Your only choice would
seem to be to unlink yourself and your sister from your mother 
step-father's marriage and only show yourselves, if at all, as
step-children.


--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart problems

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Elizabeth,

It may be, some problems of this type have been reporting. You may try using
the Reset Button, to see if that removes the problem. You will need to
re-enter all your settings.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Descendant chart problems

I now find I can't get Descendant Chart options to stay fixed.  If I
open report options and change the paper to A4 which is standard, then
close and try to save the settings, it doesn't save.  I also don't
have the option to change or set fonts in the same place.

I used to have this all set up before I moved to a newer computer but
now lots of settings (such as missing tags, reported earlier today)
just don't function as they should.

Is this a problem with the newer version of Legacy which I am now
regretting downloading?

Any advice helpful.
Thanks


Elizabeth
researching ALLAMBRIDGE (Dorset, Somerset and anywhere else they might turn
up)




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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicated emails

2012-02-22 Thread Jerry
I'm sure there is no reason for you to just live with it.  There has to
be an explanation.  But how did you try to stop it?  You did not
elaborate.  There could possibly be something in your settings like send
yourself a cc of your messages.  But if it is nothing like that, I think
I would UN-SUBSCRIBE to the Legacy lists and re-subscribe all over
again.  But watch for that error that often occurs when you try to click
on the URL in Legacy's welcoming email.  If there is that pesky embedded
space, you might have to copy and paste their entire address into your
browser to fully complete your membership in the lists.

Jerry - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 02/22/2012 11:40 AM, Elizabeth wrote:
 Oh, well I can live with it then! Thanks

 On 22 February 2012 16:36, Dennis M. Kowallekkowal...@iglou.com  wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:18:21 +, Elizabethroobee...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks - you may just have to live with it!

 We don't have to live with it. You do. If you look in the archives
 you'll see that the list is only getting a single copy of your emails.
 Only you are getting an extra copy.

 --

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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicated emails

2012-02-22 Thread Wendy Howard
Hi Elizabeth,

Have you checked the filters in your email program/service to make
sure that one of them isn't inadvertently making a copy?  I know
you're using Gmail - check your filters on the web interface - and if
you're also using an email program on your computer* check for
filters/rules there too.

* I usually use Thunderbird to download the mail to my computer, but
am working from a different machine today so am on the web.  Other
email programs include Outlook, Eudora, Pegasus.  They all do
filters/rules, the name depends on the program.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone explain why my emails to Legacy appear twice?  I've tried
 to stop it, but then nothing sends.

 --
 - - - - - - -
 Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Marg Strong
I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to find 
some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I 
belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine 
then.

From

Jenny M Benson
Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800
On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
 I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
 members who aren't interested in sources, etc. I am about to do the same! ... 
 What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources. If 
necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
but I don't think that will be necessary.

Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you!


Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800Cathy-0

Peggy, I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to 
do this
and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read.
They seem to like it in this format. However, to make it easy for them to read, 
I have placed all the information
that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes field
of the event.  All events and information has been sourced and when I print the
Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes.  By entering data as
events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline. And, of course, 
I include a name index at the end of the printed report so that
family members can easily find anyone of interest to them. Have you looked at 
the Descendants Book report?  If not, take a look. Cathy


Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on 
ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra 
notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the 
features of Legacy.
Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a 
good start after I finish entering the information.
Peggy


 From: Marg Strong
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable
reports


  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there;
perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an informal
way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the
census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it
doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the
information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the
family members I am concerned about.

  Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, that
works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type of
output? A story or history kind of book?

  Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it
in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all.

  Thank you if you can help,
  Peggy


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RE: [LegacyUG] We just upgraded our mail server

2012-02-22 Thread CE WOOD

Is your new server feedblitz?  If so, the links  in Legacy News don't work at 
all.
CEFrom: kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] We just upgraded our mail server
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:20:25 -0700

We just wanted to let everyone know that we just updated our mail server and 
hopefully everything will continue as normal.  If you see any problems with 
emails let me know.








Thanks,



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[LegacyUG] RE: Legacy Merging Feature

2012-02-22 Thread Morris M. Sonnier
What settings do I use if I want to automatically merge identical records.  No 
difference in dates or names.  100% identical. No exceptions.

Thanks,

Morris Sonnier

-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhite3...@juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children of unmarried couple?

On 2/21/2012 11:35 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
 Legacy likes to call them spouses even after you have clicked on this
 couple didn't marryG they were a couple for a bit - no matter how
 brieflyG

In God's eyes, they are married once they come together for sex.

Lloyd

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The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried
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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Lea-Anne Davison
I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long
winded.  I have entered the census information for each family as per
a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same
census information as each member of the family appears in the report.
 This results in a very long report of some repeated information.
Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear
only once at the end of each family.
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to 
 find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email 
 program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It 
 worked fine then.

 From
 Jenny M Benson
 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800

 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
  members who aren't interested in sources, etc.
 I am about to do the same!
 ...
 What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
 family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
 info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
 print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
 individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources.
 If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
 but I don't think that will be necessary.

 Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you!


 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800
 Cathy-0

 Peggy,
 I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this
 and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read.
 They seem to like it in this format.
 However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information
 that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes 
 field
 of the event.  All events and information has been sourced and when I print 
 the
 Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes.  By entering data as
 events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline.
 And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so 
 that
 family members can easily find anyone of interest to them.
 Have you looked at the Descendants Book report?  If not, take a look.
 Cathy


 Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on 
 ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra 
 notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the 
 features of Legacy.
 Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a 
 good start after I finish entering the information.
 Peggy


  From: Marg Strong
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
   Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable
 reports
   I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
 members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there;
 perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an 
 informal
 way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the
 census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it
 doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the
 information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the
 family members I am concerned about.
   Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into, 
 that
 works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type 
 of
 output? A story or history kind of book?
   Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it
 in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all.
   Thank you if you can help,
   Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Carolyn
I also use the Descendants Book report,  I save it as a PDF, then copy and
paste it into a Word document.
That way I can then add or subtract as much as I want, I usually add in
copies of the census pages and certificates as well as any photos I have.
It looks quite impressive when finished, I add in the sources at the end of
the 'book' .

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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

2012-02-22 Thread Colin Liddell
And this is Jan's website.   http://www.beehivebooks.co.nz/
The address Shirley supplied below is Jan's e-mail.

Colin.
  - Original Message -
  From: Shirley Richardson
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:53 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ


  Good news for Kiwis.

  I have just received my Flip-Pal from Jan Gow, Beehive Books, 
jan...@beehivebooks.co.nz


  Regards
  Shirley
  Mt Maunganui
  NZ


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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Lea-Anne,

Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
name, occupations, residences etc.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Lea-Anne Davison
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:11 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
readable reports

I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long
winded.  I have entered the census information for each family as per
a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same
census information as each member of the family appears in the report.
This results in a very long report of some repeated information.
Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear
only once at the end of each family.
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to
 find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email
 program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly.
 It worked fine then.

 From
 Jenny M Benson
 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800

 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
  members who aren't interested in sources, etc.
 I am about to do the same!
 ...
 What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
 family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
 info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
 print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
 individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources.
 If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
 but I don't think that will be necessary.

 Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you!


 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800
 Cathy-0

 Peggy,
 I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do
 this
 and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily
 read.
 They seem to like it in this format.
 However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the
 information
 that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes
 field
 of the event.  All events and information has been sourced and when I
 print the
 Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes.  By entering data as
 events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline.
 And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so
 that
 family members can easily find anyone of interest to them.
 Have you looked at the Descendants Book report?  If not, take a look.
 Cathy


 Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on
 ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making
 extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore
 the features of Legacy.
 Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have
 a good start after I finish entering the information.
 Peggy


  From: Marg Strong
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
   Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable
 reports
   I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
 members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources
 there;
 perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an
 informal
 way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in
 the
 census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it
 doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find
 the
 information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for
 the
 family members I am concerned about.
   Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into,
 that
 works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book
 type of
 output? A story or history kind of book?
   Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do
 it
 in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all.
   Thank you if you can help,
   Peggy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:11:53 +1000, Lea-Anne Davison
leaannedavi...@gmail.com wrote:

Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear
only once at the end of each family.

The only quick  dirty way I can suggest is to make the Census's Event
Definition private.

--

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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Lea-Anne Davison
Ron
Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
 the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
 name, occupations, residences etc.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: Lea-Anne Davison
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:11 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long
 winded.  I have entered the census information for each family as per
 a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same
 census information as each member of the family appears in the report.
 This results in a very long report of some repeated information.
 Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear
 only once at the end of each family.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to
 find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email
 program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly.
 It worked fine then.

 From
 Jenny M Benson
 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800

 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
  members who aren't interested in sources, etc.
 I am about to do the same!
 ...
 What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
 family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
 info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
 print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
 individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources.
 If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
 but I don't think that will be necessary.

 Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you!


 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800
 Cathy-0

 Peggy,
 I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do
 this
 and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily
 read.
 They seem to like it in this format.
 However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the
 information
 that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes
 field
 of the event.  All events and information has been sourced and when I
 print the
 Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes.  By entering data as
 events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline.
 And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so
 that
 family members can easily find anyone of interest to them.
 Have you looked at the Descendants Book report?  If not, take a look.
 Cathy


 Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on
 ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making
 extra notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore
 the features of Legacy.
 Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have
 a good start after I finish entering the information.
 Peggy


  From: Marg Strong
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
   Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable
 reports
   I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
 members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources
 there;
 perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an
 informal
 way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in
 the
 census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it
 doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find
 the
 information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for
 the
 family members I am concerned about.
   Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into,
 that
 works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book
 type of
 output? A story or history kind of book?
   Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do
 it
 in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all.
   Thank you if you can help,
   Peggy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Flip-Pal will be available in the UK at £119.99 from stand 430 
(www.my-history.co.uk ) at the Who Do You Think You Are? Live Exhibition, and 
thereafter at £134.95 plus £4+ p/p from the same company.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: Colin Liddell
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

And this is Jan's website.   http://www.beehivebooks.co.nz/
The address Shirley supplied below is Jan's e-mail.

Colin.
  - Original Message -
  From: Shirley Richardson
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:53 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal now available in NZ

  Good news for Kiwis.

  I have just received my Flip-Pal from Jan Gow, Beehive Books, 
jan...@beehivebooks.co.nz


  Regards
  Shirley
  Mt Maunganui
  NZ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-22 Thread Bruce Jones
Maybe I am missing something,
You can link a child to more than one set of parents,
Then, can't you specify in Children's Settings Adopted for one set
of parents and Biological (or nothing) for the other?

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 On 22/02/2012 16:45, Elizabeth wrote:
 My father died when I was a child and when my mother re-married, my
 sister (but not my brothers) were adopted by our stepfather.
 I have this link on the family tree but I cannot find any way of
 omitting my sister and myself from reports.

 I tried setting us to private under the second marriage but Legacy
 made us private everywhere.

 I think it might be easier to delete us from the second marriage
 altogether and simply mention the fact that we were adopted (with the
 subsequent name change) in the general notes.  However, I am reluctant
 to delete myself from the second marriage in case I disappear
 altogether.  Should this be an 'unlink' situation?


 As far as I know there is no way to show children as both the product of
 one marriage (or relationship) AND as the (adopted) product of another
 marriage unless you enter them into the database twice.  Step-children
 can be shown as such under the marriage of their parent and step-parent
 and will not appear as descendants of the step-parent.  An adopted child
 is generally considered to be as much part of the family as a
 blood-related child, so most people would want the to appear in Reports,
 albeit with the child status set to Adopted.  Your only choice would
 seem to be to unlink yourself and your sister from your mother 
 step-father's marriage and only show yourselves, if at all, as
 step-children.


 --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Lea-Anne,

Firstly, let me say that I am just saying that this is the way in which I
record data, and not a recommendation that anyone should change the way in
which they work. I have not seen Geoff's webinar, but I know from the Sample
File that I do not work the same way as Geoff. I should perhaps add that
when deciding how I was going to store data my first consideration was how
the data would look on the web, reports were a second consideration. These
considerations led to me deciding not to have Census Events.

There have been a number of previous discussions on LUG as to whether a
census is an Event or a Source (please let's not debate it again - it's in
the archives), and I do admit that I tend to come down on the side of it
being a Source. Actually, I am mellowing as I get older, because at one time
I would have said it was definitely only a Source :-).

I do not record people who are not in any way related to my tree eg.
servants etc. except where there is a special reason, eg. if a son marries
the family's maid then I will put something in the Marriage Event . I am
conscious that some will say I can easily miss connections this way, and I
would not disagree, although I suspect that the number of times this happens
is very low. If I wanted to I could always add them as a comment to the
Source Detail - but I don't!

My Residence Event is not a replacement for a Census Event, it is a record
of where each person has lived and when; it can, therefore, include at
birth, at marriage, at army registration, in fact whenever a new location
crops up. Similarly I have Occupation Events where, again, I use the census
as a Source. In fact if any data on the census can be used as a Source for
any type of Event, then that is how I use it.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Lea-Anne Davison
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:42 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
readable reports

Ron
Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
 the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
 name, occupations, residences etc.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 -Original Message-
 From: Lea-Anne Davison
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:11 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long
 winded.  I have entered the census information for each family as per
 a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same
 census information as each member of the family appears in the report.
 This results in a very long report of some repeated information.
 Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear
 only once at the end of each family.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have
 to
 find some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email
 program. I belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly.
 It worked fine then.

 From
 Jenny M Benson
 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800

 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
  members who aren't interested in sources, etc.
 I am about to do the same!
 ...
 What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
 family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
 info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
 print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
 individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources.
 If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
 but I don't think that will be necessary.

 Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you!


 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800
 Cathy-0

 Peggy,
 I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do
 this
 and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily
 read.
 They seem to like it in this format.
 However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the
 information
 that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes
 field
 of the event.  All events and information has been 

Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-22 Thread Ron Ferguson
Bruce,

Yes, and I do.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Jones
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

Maybe I am missing something,
You can link a child to more than one set of parents,
Then, can't you specify in Children's Settings Adopted for one set
of parents and Biological (or nothing) for the other?

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
wrote:
 On 22/02/2012 16:45, Elizabeth wrote:
 My father died when I was a child and when my mother re-married, my
 sister (but not my brothers) were adopted by our stepfather.
 I have this link on the family tree but I cannot find any way of
 omitting my sister and myself from reports.

 I tried setting us to private under the second marriage but Legacy
 made us private everywhere.

 I think it might be easier to delete us from the second marriage
 altogether and simply mention the fact that we were adopted (with the
 subsequent name change) in the general notes.  However, I am reluctant
 to delete myself from the second marriage in case I disappear
 altogether.  Should this be an 'unlink' situation?


 As far as I know there is no way to show children as both the product of
 one marriage (or relationship) AND as the (adopted) product of another
 marriage unless you enter them into the database twice.  Step-children
 can be shown as such under the marriage of their parent and step-parent
 and will not appear as descendants of the step-parent.  An adopted child
 is generally considered to be as much part of the family as a
 blood-related child, so most people would want the to appear in Reports,
 albeit with the child status set to Adopted.  Your only choice would
 seem to be to unlink yourself and your sister from your mother 
 step-father's marriage and only show yourselves, if at all, as
 step-children.


 --
 Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] RE: Legacy Merging Feature

2012-02-22 Thread R G Strong-genes
Morris,

ToolsMergeFind Duplicates

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-Original Message-
From: Morris M. Sonnier
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: Legacy Merging Feature

What settings do I use if I want to automatically merge identical records.
No difference in dates or names.  100% identical. No exceptions.

Thanks,

Morris Sonnier

-Original Message-
From: Lloyd Hite [mailto:lhite3...@juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Children of unmarried couple?

On 2/21/2012 11:35 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote:
 Legacy likes to call them spouses even after you have clicked on this
 couple didn't marryG they were a couple for a bit - no matter how
 brieflyG

In God's eyes, they are married once they come together for sex.

Lloyd

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Re: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Elizabeth, I believe you are correct (can't edit standard output)  that's why
Legacy has the RTF option.

Re:  showing only some descendents
I have seen on this list people recommending you export the subset you need to
GEDCOM, then import into a new file, then unlink the branches you don't need
in the particular report.  (I'm paraphrasing.)
Maybe that sort of approach could work for you.

ON THE OTHER HAND:  There are known issues with GEDCOM vs. Source Writer
citations, so maybe it wouldn't work for you.
 --Paula in Texas
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Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
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From: Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 8:38:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

Thanks for all the advice.  My original reason for exporting to Word
was for subsequent editing.  Whilst I probably should be able to get
Legacy to produce the wording I need, if I only, for example, need
some of the descendants shown, it seems easier to do that in Word.

I don't believe one can edit the Standard Output, just print?
Elizabeth

On 20 February 2012 00:26, Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au wrote:
 Elizabeth,

 Upon further examination, I too have found similar results. I will be 
 reporting
this problem.


 Kind Regards
 Mark Lang
 Beta Tester


 -Original Message-
 From: Elizabeth [mailto:roobee...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 5:20 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

 I have exported a descendant report, via rtf, to Word but am puzzled
 by various additions to the text which appear to have inserted
 themselves. �For example, one event should read: He was resident at
 Gilbert Street, Paddington, London in 1841 but following 1841 is
 \up51\up0, with the last five digits in superscript.  I think it
 should simply be a single superscript 1 for the first source quoted.
 Can anyone suggest where these might have come from, please?
 - - - - - - -
 Elizabeth
 researching ALLAMBRIDGE (Dorset, Somerset and anywhere else they might
 turn up)


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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Elizabeth,
I, too, recently purchased a new computer and downloaded a new Legacy and
restored my database from my backup (external HD), and I discovered that Tagging
is turned off by default.  Go into Customize and it's on one of the first two or
three tabs.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 8:30:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

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Doesn't explain why tags aren't being shown.  snip


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Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
I have had no problems doing it the same way as Elizabeth did.  Admittedly, I am
having to reset some things, but I didn't have that many things set and it is
really good for me to review all the things that are available to set.  On the
other hand, I have my old computer on the card table next to me, so I could copy
over a user file if I really need to do that.

I believe that when I restored from the backup, the program recognized the
database needed modifying to run in .149 and took care of it for me.  BTW, I did
a cursory check of some of my highly-cited sources / fields, and they seem to be
okay.  Will be reading the rest of the problems posts now...
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 11:18:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing tags

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:47:19 +, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
wrote:

Well, yes, I think that is the case. Where should user files be found, please?

Before you try anything...

You say that the version on the new PC is 7.5.0.149. What was the
version on the old PC?

Ideally you should install the same version on both PCs before
transferring you data files and settings files.

--

Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming)
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[LegacyUG] Version 7.5.0.149 - font issues

2012-02-22 Thread s megraw

I'm aware that the update to the latest version has caused some problems, but 
I'm baffled with what's happened in my case. I updated to 7.5.0.149 very soon 
after it was released and have been happily using it ever since. The only 
issue was I couldn't set the fonts in the Descendant Book -  no big deal. 
Now, just today, when I go to view the Descendent report, the fonts are all 
weird sizes and types. Why am I getting this now? Is it related to what others 
are experiencing with the latest update? Is there a work-around?

Thanks

Stan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Marg Strong
Well here I go again, trying to cut and paste to reply. I did re-subscribe and 
just sent back the confirmation email, so hopefully I'll start getting mail 
again.

Actually, I won't cut and paste. I was interested in Ron's discussion of the 
census records. I guess from what he said, I could do a search on the topic, 
but that might be more confusing.


I have been entering them as an event (for couples, if there is a family, or 
one person, if single). I put the whole text from the image into the citation 
and after than use just the census source and citation for other events. I do 
want to see the whole family printed out once. But I'm so new to all this I'm 
not sure how it's going to look when put into a report.

For what I have in mind, for family wanting this in story form, the whole 
family together (in a census) once, might be interesting. In my notes when I 
put the book together, I can enter my thoughts and observations on the family 
changes and the history of the area. I don't know where to do that so it prints 
out in Legacy.


If an ancestor was a farmer, I doubt it would be interesting to have it print 
out several times because it is found in several census lists. So I'm not sure 
how to deal with occupations. For myself, I want them all there. For the book 
I want what will hold attention of a non historian person. 

I've just begun to understand how important the places event is for 
timelines. And I haven't used it. So will have to go back and add them.


I know I need to test the report features and see how it prints out now. Maybe 
that will give me ideas.


The last time I put a book together for family members, I pretty much took the 
information and rewrote it, adding the photos I had. The trouble with that is 
that, after more research, a lot changes and somehow has to be incorporated 
into a new book, which, hopefully won't have to be completely rewritten! The 
never ending story.


There are so many ways to do things, and I've just started. And I'm getting on 
in years so my time is limited.

Back to work!
Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
That's why I do not enter it the way Geoff recommends.  When trying something
new, I enter the data the new way and then run several different reports to see
how it looks.  Hopefully, Geoff will respond with some report settings that can
keep the repetitions to a minimum.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable
reports

I too like to use the Descendants Book Report but it can be a bit long
winded.  I have entered the census information for each family as per
a webinar by Geoff Rasmussen but this results in pages of the same
census information as each member of the family appears in the report.
This results in a very long report of some repeated information.
Any suggestions on how to condense this information, perhaps to appear
only once at the end of each family.
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 04:51, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm so sorry I have to do this primitive cutting and pasting. I'll have to 
 find
some way to figure out why I'm not getting the responses in my email program. I
belonged to the group for few weeks and unsubscribed briefly. It worked fine
then.

 From
 Jenny M Benson
 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:45:33 -0800

 On 22/02/2012 03:39, Marg Strong wrote:
  I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
  members who aren't interested in sources, etc.
 I am about to do the same!
 ...
 What I intend to do is copy the people I want in the Report to a new
 family file and then use my Sources and Events/Fact to construct a brief
 info-history of each person in the General Notes field.  Then I will
 print a Report (probably Descendant Narrative) just showing the
 individuals and their Notes, not including any Events/Facts or Sources.
 If necessary, I can take the Report into a wordprocessor and amend it,
 but I don't think that will be necessary.

 Jenny this is very helpful. Thank you!


 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 06:46:38 -0800
 Cathy-0

 Peggy,
 I use the Descendants Book Report (a.k.a. Modified Register Report) to do this
 and have given printed reports to family members which they can easily read.
 They seem to like it in this format.
 However, to make it easy for them to read, I have placed all the information
 that I have researched into Events with detailed information in the notes
field
 of the event.  All events and information has been sourced and when I print
the
 Descendant Report, I place the sources as end notes.  By entering data as
 events, it also makes it easy to review my data in a timeline.
 And, of course, I include a name index at the end of the printed report so
that
 family members can easily find anyone of interest to them.
 Have you looked at the Descendants Book report?  If not, take a look.
 Cathy


 Cathy, I am so busy trying to enter information into Legacy, found on
ancestry.com (before my six months subscription runs out), plus making extra
notes and saving files, that I haven't had time to begin to explore the 
features
of Legacy.
 Thank you so much for the suggestions. between you and Jenny, I will have a
good start after I finish entering the information.
 Peggy


  From: Marg Strong
   To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
   Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:39 PM
   Subject: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable
 reports
   I am hoping to print out reports that will be uncomplicated for family
 members who aren't interested in sources, etc. (But I want the sources there;
 perhaps as endnotes). Is the best way to put all the information in an
informal
 way under notes where it will be in one place? If I put the information in the
 census notes (under the detail), it will be more difficult to be sure it
 doesn't end up being repetitous. But it is often in the census that I find the
 information I want to note. And Legacy reports will need to be edited for the
 family members I am concerned about.
   Is there a software program that I can enter my Legacy information into,
that
 works well with Legacy, and puts the reports into a more informal, book type
of
 output? A story or history kind of book?
   Right now I'm entering a lot of information and it would be easier to do it
 in the most helpful way for my purpose, than to go back and redo it all.
   Thank you if you can help,
   Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Lea-Anne,  I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the
entire household in every event.  I use a more narrative style and include just
that person's information.  For the couple, I add the event to the marriage.  In
fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription anywhere, because I
can just pull up the image if I need to see something and neither the image nor
transcriptions add anything to the reports that I use.  Even on those census
sources where I have just transcriptions (have yet to obtain an image and see
what was entered for myself), I have the transcription in the source, but I
don't print it as part of the citation (entered in the Text field without
checking that box).  Hope this made sense.  But as Ron has said not a
recommendation - just describing how I do it in case it can be helpful to you.

Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard -- I
mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this feature
and it is wonderful, very quick!
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable
reports

Ron
Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
 the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
 name, occupations, residences etc.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] Yet another problem with 7.5.0.147

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Sherry,
Could you please reiterate how to contact support ?  It's not here on the LUG
list, is it?  But is there an option besides Bug and Suggestion ?  Sorry to
sound so ignorant.  Thanks.
 --Paula in Texas







From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 4:08:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Yet another problem with 7.5.0.147

Anytime you have problems with report options, the first thing to do
is click on the Reset button in the lower right corner of the main
report window.

If that fails to resolve the problem, contact Support to let us know about it.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Lea-Anne Davison
I think I will experient with what has been suggested.  I realise
there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an
important part for me.  I think I will try putting in an event whether
I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed
description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with
his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short).  Then
source the census with the full details in the text field and see how
that looks for the reports.   Whether I print it as part of the
citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way
it will only be once at the end of the report and  not repeated all
through the report.
Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Lea-Anne,  I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the
 entire household in every event.  I use a more narrative style and include
 just that person's information.  For the couple, I add the event to the
 marriage.  In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription
 anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something
 and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I
 use.  Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have
 yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the
 transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation
 (entered in the Text field without checking that box).  Hope this made
 sense.  But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I
 do it in case it can be helpful to you.

 Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard
 -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this
 feature and it is wonderful, very quick!

 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
 Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
 Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
 Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
 Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 From: Lea-Anne Davison leaannedavi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 Ron
 Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
 for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
 saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
 which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
 into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
 and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
 the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
 name, occupations, residences etc.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problems Reports

2012-02-22 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thx for letting us know, Gene.  Have you heard back if it is a report or a data
problem?  Just asking.  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Gene Adams ca1ski...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 21, 2012 3:13:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problems Reports


I sent Brian off-line a snapshot of a page section (page 39 0f 83) where the
documentation is scrambled in the Ancestor Book.

Gene A



 From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Update Problems Reports


You are not aware of the many reports of scrambled data?!  I guess you have not
been reading LUG lately!


CE


 From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update Problems Reports
 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:56:29 -0500

 I tested and acknowledged a problem with a blank fonts screen when
 accessing reports.
 That issue has been fixed by the programmers and is being tested by our
 beta testers.

 I am not aware of nor have I acknowledged reports of scrambled data.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Jerry
I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I
think, so you can probably expect him to answer later.  But I almost
find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's
life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that.
That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life
because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an
event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the
obituary.  Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my
Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition.  LOL!

But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade
through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us
genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering.  They want a
brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me,
detest wading through endless, not needed, information.  So, keep it
simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on
this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary
definitions on this subject.

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote:
 I think I will experient with what has been suggested.  I realise
 there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an
 important part for me.  I think I will try putting in an event whether
 I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed
 description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with
 his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short).  Then
 source the census with the full details in the text field and see how
 that looks for the reports.   Whether I print it as part of the
 citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way
 it will only be once at the end of the report and  not repeated all
 through the report.
 Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:
 Lea-Anne,  I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the
 entire household in every event.  I use a more narrative style and include
 just that person's information.  For the couple, I add the event to the
 marriage.  In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription
 anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something
 and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I
 use.  Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have
 yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the
 transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation
 (entered in the Text field without checking that box).  Hope this made
 sense.  But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I
 do it in case it can be helpful to you.

 Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard
 -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this
 feature and it is wonderful, very quick!

 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
 Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
 Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
 Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
 Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 Ron
 Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
 for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
 saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
 which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
 into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
 and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk  wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
 the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
 name, occupations, residences etc.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Lea-Anne Davison
I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and
certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again.  All I want is
a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless
repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census.I
will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me.
Lea-Anne

On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerry jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I
 think, so you can probably expect him to answer later.  But I almost
 find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's
 life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that.
 That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life
 because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an
 event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the
 obituary.  Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my
 Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition.  LOL!

 But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade
 through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us
 genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering.  They want a
 brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me,
 detest wading through endless, not needed, information.  So, keep it
 simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on
 this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary
 definitions on this subject.

 Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

 On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote:
 I think I will experient with what has been suggested.  I realise
 there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an
 important part for me.  I think I will try putting in an event whether
 I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed
 description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with
 his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short).  Then
 source the census with the full details in the text field and see how
 that looks for the reports.   Whether I print it as part of the
 citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way
 it will only be once at the end of the report and  not repeated all
 through the report.
 Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net  wrote:
 Lea-Anne,  I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of the
 entire household in every event.  I use a more narrative style and include
 just that person's information.  For the couple, I add the event to the
 marriage.  In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription
 anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something
 and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I
 use.  Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have
 yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the
 transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation
 (entered in the Text field without checking that box).  Hope this made
 sense.  But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I
 do it in case it can be helpful to you.

 Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard
 -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about this
 feature and it is wonderful, very quick!

 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
 Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
 Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
 Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
 Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 Ron
 Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
 for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
 saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
 which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
 into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
 and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk  wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a Census Event? If so this is one of
 the reasons why I don't, and why I only use a census as a Source for eg.
 name, occupations, residences etc.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 snip



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Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Jerry
Yeah, I understand and don't mean to be dogmatic about it.  But I do
think that your reports might come out better by treating events as
sources, rather than events.

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 2/22/2012 11:18 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote:
 I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and
 certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again.  All I want is
 a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless
 repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census.I
 will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com  wrote:
 I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I
 think, so you can probably expect him to answer later.  But I almost
 find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's
 life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that.
 That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life
 because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an
 event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the
 obituary.  Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my
 Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition.  LOL!

 But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade
 through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us
 genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering.  They want a
 brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me,
 detest wading through endless, not needed, information.  So, keep it
 simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on
 this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary
 definitions on this subject.

 Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

 On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote:
 I think I will experient with what has been suggested.  I realise
 there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an
 important part for me.  I think I will try putting in an event whether
 I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed
 description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with
 his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short).  Then
 source the census with the full details in the text field and see how
 that looks for the reports.   Whether I print it as part of the
 citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way
 it will only be once at the end of the report and  not repeated all
 through the report.
 Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
 wrote:
 Lea-Anne,  I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of 
 the
 entire household in every event.  I use a more narrative style and include
 just that person's information.  For the couple, I add the event to the
 marriage.  In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription
 anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something
 and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that I
 use.  Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have
 yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the
 transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation
 (entered in the Text field without checking that box).  Hope this made
 sense.  But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I
 do it in case it can be helpful to you.

 Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event clipboard
 -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about 
 this
 feature and it is wonderful, very quick!

 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
 Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline 
 Field
 Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
 Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
 Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 Ron
 Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
 for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
 saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
 which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
 into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
 and does this then only show as one source at the end of the report
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 10:35, Ron Fergusonronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 wrote:
 Lea-Anne,

 Am I right in thinking that you have a 

Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in readable reports

2012-02-22 Thread Jerry
Sorry, I meant to say ...better by treating a census as a source, rather
than as an event...

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 2/22/2012 11:33 PM, Jerry wrote:
 Yeah, I understand and don't mean to be dogmatic about it.  But I do
 think that your reports might come out better by treating events as
 sources, rather than events.

 Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

 On 2/22/2012 11:18 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote:
 I think I am on the fence with the source vs event debate and
 certainly it wasn't my intention to start it up again.  All I want is
 a way for the report to be easy to read and not have endless
 repetitions of the event that I put in, at this point - census.I
 will take the time to experiment and come up something that suits me.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 14:09, Jerryjerrysemailgro...@gmail.com   wrote:
 I think Ron is in the UK and it is about 5 in the morning there, I
 think, so you can probably expect him to answer later.  But I almost
 find it hysterical that a census is considered an event in someone's
 life, despite the fact that many professionals advocate for that.
 That's sort of like saying a newspaper is an event in someone's life
 because they might be mentioned in the newspaper, or an obituary is an
 event in someone's life because, certainly, they are mentioned in the
 obituary.  Clearly, they are sources, not events, and I prefer to use my
 Merriam-Webster roots to provide the correct definition.  LOL!

 But the other side is, that most users will definitely not want to wade
 through lots of information about their ancestors that most of us
 genealogists might even have some difficulty deciphering.  They want a
 brief synopsis that tells them the story and most of them, even me,
 detest wading through endless, not needed, information.  So, keep it
 simple, comes to mind, but I realize most of the ones who disagree on
 this issue are very smart people, just mis-informed about the dictionary
 definitions on this subject.

 Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

 On 2/22/2012 10:40 PM, Lea-Anne Davison wrote:
 I think I will experient with what has been suggested.  I realise
 there is no right or wrong way, but how it looks in the report is an
 important part for me.  I think I will try putting in an event whether
 I call in Event or Residence not sure yet with an condensed
 description of the family in the census eg John Smith was living with
 his wife and children (perhaps name each but keep it short).  Then
 source the census with the full details in the text field and see how
 that looks for the reports.   Whether I print it as part of the
 citation I will decide after I see how it looks but at least this way
 it will only be once at the end of the report and  not repeated all
 through the report.
 Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
 Lea-Anne

 On 23 February 2012 13:31, Paula Ryburnpaula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
 wrote:
 Lea-Anne,  I do use census events, but I don't have the transcription of 
 the
 entire household in every event.  I use a more narrative style and include
 just that person's information.  For the couple, I add the event to the
 marriage.  In fact, if I have the image, I don't have the transcription
 anywhere, because I can just pull up the image if I need to see something
 and neither the image nor transcriptions add anything to the reports that 
 I
 use.  Even on those census sources where I have just transcriptions (have
 yet to obtain an image and see what was entered for myself), I have the
 transcription in the source, but I don't print it as part of the citation
 (entered in the Text field without checking that box).  Hope this made
 sense.  But as Ron has said not a recommendation - just describing how I
 do it in case it can be helpful to you.

 Note: if you do end up re-doing events, remember to use the event 
 clipboard
 -- I mention this explicitly because I only very recently learned about 
 this
 feature and it is wonderful, very quick!

 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton 
 Chapman
 Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline 
 Field
 Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
 Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
 Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 From: Lea-Anne Davisonleaannedavi...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:42:45 PM

 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Trying to enter information that will result in
 readable reports

 Ron
 Yes I do add as a Census Event.  I use the census source as a source
 for name and approx date of birth. Correct me if I am wrong, you are
 saying you have a residence event instead of an actual census event,
 which the census is used as the source.  Are the names etc entered
 into the source as per Geoff's webinar.  If so where are they entered
 and does this then only show as one 

Re: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

2012-02-22 Thread Laird
Paula and Elizabeth,
You don't have to compromise on the export, you can still keep Source Writer
sources.

1.  DO NOT export as GEDCOM.
2.  Export as a Legacy file, from the file menu:FileExport toLegacy
File You can use a focus group or tag the subset you want.
3.  Export it.
4.  It will ask if you want to open it.
Laird

On 2/22/2012 8:29 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Elizabeth, I believe you are correct (can't edit standard output)  that's why
 Legacy has the RTF option.

 Re:  showing only some descendents
 I have seen on this list people recommending you export the subset you need to
 GEDCOM, then import into a new file, then unlink the branches you don't need
 in the particular report.  (I'm paraphrasing.)
 Maybe that sort of approach could work for you.

 ON THE OTHER HAND:  There are known issues with GEDCOM vs. Source Writer
 citations, so maybe it wouldn't work for you.
 --Paula in Texas
 Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
 Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
 Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes
 Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
 Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


 
 *From:* Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Tue, February 21, 2012 8:38:14 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report

 Thanks for all the advice.  My original reason for exporting to Word
 was for subsequent editing.  Whilst I probably should be able to get
 Legacy to produce the wording I need, if I only, for example, need
 some of the descendants shown, it seems easier to do that in Word.

 I don't believe one can edit the Standard Output, just print?
 Elizabeth

 On 20 February 2012 00:26, Mark Lang markl...@adam.com.au
 mailto:markl...@adam.com.au wrote:
  Elizabeth,
 
  Upon further examination, I too have found similar results. I will be
 reporting this problem.
 
 
  Kind Regards
  Mark Lang
  Beta Tester
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Elizabeth [mailto:roobee...@gmail.com mailto:roobee...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012 5:20 AM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 
  mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Using Word for descendant report
 
  I have exported a descendant report, via rtf, to Word but am puzzled
  by various additions to the text which appear to have inserted
  themselves. �For example, one event should read: He was resident at
  Gilbert Street, Paddington, London in 1841 but following 1841 is
  \up51\up0, with the last five digits in superscript.  I think it
  should simply be a single superscript 1 for the first source quoted.
  Can anyone suggest where these might have come from, please?
  - - - - - - -
  Elizabeth
  researching ALLAMBRIDGE (Dorset, Somerset and anywhere else they might
  turn up)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Removing children listed twice

2012-02-22 Thread Brian/Support
Jenny,

You should NEVER enter the same person twice in the database. Imagine
the difficulty of remembering to update each one when you find new data
for them.

The correct way to show a person as a child of more than one set of
parents is to LINK the child to the two sets of parents. Once they are
properly linked then you can identify the relationship to the father and
relationship to the mother for each set of parents.
Select the child that has both biological and adoptive or step parents
Note which set of parents are currently shown
Click on the parent icon below the individual
The list of parents will appear
If you know the other set of parents are already in the file click the
Link to Existing Parents button
The Marriage list will open and you can select the second set of parents.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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Thanks.

On 22/02/2012 2:03 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 22/02/2012 16:45, Elizabeth wrote:
 My father died when I was a child and when my mother re-married, my
 sister (but not my brothers) were adopted by our stepfather.
 I have this link on the family tree but I cannot find any way of
 omitting my sister and myself from reports.

 I tried setting us to private under the second marriage but Legacy
 made us private everywhere.

 I think it might be easier to delete us from the second marriage
 altogether and simply mention the fact that we were adopted (with the
 subsequent name change) in the general notes.  However, I am reluctant
 to delete myself from the second marriage in case I disappear
 altogether.  Should this be an 'unlink' situation?


 As far as I know there is no way to show children as both the product of
 one marriage (or relationship) AND as the (adopted) product of another
 marriage unless you enter them into the database twice.  Step-children
 can be shown as such under the marriage of their parent and step-parent
 and will not appear as descendants of the step-parent.  An adopted child
 is generally considered to be as much part of the family as a
 blood-related child, so most people would want the to appear in Reports,
 albeit with the child status set to Adopted.  Your only choice would
 seem to be to unlink yourself and your sister from your mother
 step-father's marriage and only show yourselves, if at all, as
 step-children.





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