RE: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
Brian,

Re: Nesting of tables. Of course I have reported it! For at least 9 years.

Additionally, perhaps you are unaware that I am a Legacy Beta Tester, 
concentrating my efforts on checking the effects of program changes on web 
pages (the last bit I would not expect you to know).

The rest of your post I have effectively answered elsewhere.

Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Mary Young
It always amazes me, that whenever Legacy-produced websites are mentioned
on this list, it results in a barrage of mail, and we soon are far removed
from the original posting.
Bernie asked
Is there any way to increase the font size on generated webpages?  I
feel there is too much blank space and much of the text is difficult to
read, especially the family links on the right hand side.  I've looked
through all the tabs and cannot find any reference to fonts.

I don't know how much priority this is for the programers but is one of
the main reasons I purchased Legacy, especially with the imbedding of
images.

Maybe the webpages are frosting to some people, but to others (including
myself and Bernie) they've been a major factor in purchasing Legacy.
Personally I'm not looking for a massive re-design and re-write - I'd be
happy for some improvements in fonts and spacing after 9 years looking at
the same old format.
So why all the animosity and strife?
Mary Young



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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Mary Young
My apologies - My messages to the Group are being duplicated. I don't know
why.
Mary Young



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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
Mary,

I don't think so, at least for me . It may be that your ISP is duplicating it. 
Have you also checked your email client settings.

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Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Mary Young
Ron
Thanks for confirming that only one copy of my msgs is seen by the Group.
Recently my Gmail Inbox has these duplicates (to this Group only AFAIK),
and I wrongly assumed everyone was receiving them.  It's a mystery!!
Honestly, I don't know where to check my email client settings; I know I
haven't knowingly changed anything.
Mary



On 19 September 2013 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Mary,

 I don't think so, at least for me . It may be that your ISP is duplicating
 it. Have you also checked your email client settings.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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RE: Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
Mary,

I hadn't realised that you were using G-Mail. Although I do not use it myself 
it is my understanding that it lets the poster have a copy when it appears on 
the list (or something like that)

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[LegacyUG] Produce by in reports

2013-09-19 Thread Lavern Hall
Hello,
For some reason, I'm not seeing
where to enter information for the
Produced by  in reports/charts/
FGR. Could someone point me
in the right direction, please.

Thanks,
Lavern Hall



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Re: Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Chris Seens
Ron is correct. The 1st email is your copy of the message sent to the user 
group. The second message is your message being sent out to the group from the 
list.

Have a great day.

Chris

Sent from Mailbox for iPhone

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

 Ron
 Thanks for confirming that only one copy of my msgs is seen by the Group.
 Recently my Gmail Inbox has these duplicates (to this Group only AFAIK),
 and I wrongly assumed everyone was receiving them.  It's a mystery!!
 Honestly, I don't know where to check my email client settings; I know I
 haven't knowingly changed anything.
 Mary
 On 19 September 2013 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Mary,

 I don't think so, at least for me . It may be that your ISP is duplicating
 it. Have you also checked your email client settings.

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Re: Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Brian/Support
Mary,

Gmail does not have an Outbox where sent messages are segregated from
incoming mail. You are seeing both the copy of your sent mail and the
incoming message from the list when viewing your mail in gmail. The list
members only see your outgoing copy after it is relayed to the list members.

Brian
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On 19/09/2013 6:31 AM, Mary Young wrote:
 Ron
 Thanks for confirming that only one copy of my msgs is seen by the Group.
 Recently my Gmail Inbox has these duplicates (to this Group only AFAIK),
 and I wrongly assumed everyone was receiving them.  It's a mystery!!
 Honestly, I don't know where to check my email client settings; I know I
 haven't knowingly changed anything.
 Mary



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Re: Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Mary Young
sorry to contradict - but receiving two copies (i.e. one to myself, and
another as a Group Member) has not been gmail's usual behaviour. I've been
a gmail user for years, and it's only started recently.  I notice this
thread was labelled twice, once for my LUG mail, and again as Forum.
Forum seems to be a new Smart Category introduced recently.  I've
unticked it and hopefully the problem will go away :-)
thanks for your help
Mary Young


On 19 September 2013 14:26, Chris Seens cseens1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron is correct. The 1st email is your copy of the message sent to the user
 group. The second message is your message being sent out to the group from
 the list.
 Have a great day.

 Chris

 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

  Ron
 Thanks for confirming that only one copy of my msgs is seen by the
 Group.  Recently my Gmail Inbox has these duplicates (to this Group only
 AFAIK), and I wrongly assumed everyone was receiving them.  It's a
 mystery!! Honestly, I don't know where to check my email client settings; I
 know I haven't knowingly changed anything.
 Mary



 On 19 September 2013 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

 Mary,

 I don't think so, at least for me . It may be that your ISP is
 duplicating it. Have you also checked your email client settings.

 Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Produce by in reports

2013-09-19 Thread Brian/Support
It is on the report Options Header/Footer tab for all reports.

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On 19/09/2013 9:26 AM, Lavern Hall wrote:
 Hello,
 For some reason, I'm not seeing
 where to enter information for the
 Produced by  in reports/charts/
 FGR. Could someone point me
 in the right direction, please.

 Thanks,
 Lavern Hall



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Re: Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Leonard Johnson
Mary,

I have been using gmail for years.  If I send a message to any Legacy list,
I receive a copy from Legacy,
however, this is not the case with all mailing lists.  If a I send a
personal message I do not receive
a copy.  E.G. TNGs mailing list does not work the same as Legacy lists.
When I send a message to
TNGs mailing list I do not receive a copy and, by the way, have no idea if
my email has reached the
mailing list.


Leonard Johnson-Källbom
Team Leader
Swedish Translation Team
legacy8.swed...@gmail.com



On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

 sorry to contradict - but receiving two copies (i.e. one to myself, and
 another as a Group Member) has not been gmail's usual behaviour. I've been
 a gmail user for years, and it's only started recently.  I notice this
 thread was labelled twice, once for my LUG mail, and again as Forum.
 Forum seems to be a new Smart Category introduced recently.  I've
 unticked it and hopefully the problem will go away :-)
 thanks for your help
 Mary Young


 On 19 September 2013 14:26, Chris Seens cseens1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron is correct. The 1st email is your copy of the message sent to the
 user group. The second message is your message being sent out to the group
 from the list.
 Have a great day.

 Chris

 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

  Ron
 Thanks for confirming that only one copy of my msgs is seen by the
 Group.  Recently my Gmail Inbox has these duplicates (to this Group only
 AFAIK), and I wrongly assumed everyone was receiving them.  It's a
 mystery!! Honestly, I don't know where to check my email client settings; I
 know I haven't knowingly changed anything.
 Mary



 On 19 September 2013 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

  Mary,

 I don't think so, at least for me . It may be that your ISP is
 duplicating it. Have you also checked your email client settings.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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Re: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Jay,
If you have a to-do item for each thing you want to find, and have specified 
the repository as the vital records office you plan to visit, then print the 
report of to-do items for just that repository, sorted by category first (BMD), 
then ...well, you would need to enter the year in the task name and then sort 
on that third.   (or if you really don't care when you technically opened a 
to-do item, you could enter the date in question there...? tho I haven't tested 
entering a date in the past)

If all your individuals in question are in your Legacy database, I'm not sure 
why you would consider getting another genealogy program just to produce a 
to-do list?

Alternately, if you don't want to use to-do lists at all, but just want a list 
of who to look for, you could try Search.  It would take two passes.  Example 
is whole state of Massachusetts.

INDIVIDUALS
Search  Find  Individual Birth Place contains Massachusetts OR Individual 
Death Place contains Massachusetts
Click Print - select what data you want (up to 3 rows) and print  or 
generate CSV so you can sort it by date.

(You might want to separate this into 2 passes, so you have a births list and 
a deaths list... depends on how the records are organized at the VR office.)

MARRIAGES
Search  Find  Marriage Marriage Place contains Massachusetts
Select fields, Print / generate CSV

 

--Paula



 From: Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report



Wow,  that does not seem logical to me at all.

Am I looking in the wrong place on how to create a report for a research trip 
to a vital records office where I want to maximize my time 
by searching for Birth Death and Marriage records in a specific order like 
first all births, sorted ascending by year, 
then all marriages ascending by year 
then all deaths ascending by year?  

Or is another Genealogy program better at doing this seemingly simple task?


Jay 








On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

That is the way the To-Do report is designed. The personal details for
the person to which the task applies is a header box. The task details
are the body of the report.

If you select to do's for an individual you have the option of not
repeating that personal data header for every task so the personal data
heading is followed by all that person's tasks.

Brian
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On 12/09/2013 5:20 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:

 I am having a problem with a print for a standard to-do report

 The results seem somewhat out of order (within the task)

 What I get are the  first few lines are the persons details,
 then what I would have expected to be the header bar for this one task
 then the date line
 then the category line

 LIke;

 Individual: Christ Joseph Arnoldussen [108319]
 Birth: Abt May 1899, Freedom, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
 Death: Mar 28, 1907, Freedom, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
 Parents: John Arnoldussen [33391] and Katherine (Kate) Lappen [108322]
 *Date Research Task*
 Jan 12, 2013 1900 census lists birth as May 1899, died 3/28/1907
 Category: Birth Record Locality: Outagamie County


 What I would have expected was

 *Date Research Task*
 Jan 12, 2013 1900 census lists birth as May 1899, died 3/28/1907
 Category: Birth Record Locality: Outagamie County

 Individual: Christ Joseph Arnoldussen [108319]
 Birth: Abt May 1899, Freedom, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
 Death: Mar 28, 1907, Freedom, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA
 Parents: John Arnoldussen [33391] and Katherine (Kate) Lappen [108322]


 Is there a setting somewhere I have missed?

 Thanks in advance for any help

 Jay






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Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines (Under the View Menu)

2013-09-19 Thread Sherry/Support
Check your settings for the timeline. You need to make sure that you
have none of the three limiting options selected.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Paula Ryburn
paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Sherry, This looked interesting to me, so I tested it out.  First I ran my
 own with timeline US Constitution Amendments, and only those occurring after
 my birth showed up.  So, I went all out and added a new unlinked individual
 born in 1996 (after last amendment in timeline), and nothing shows in the
 chronology view now.  Did I miss something?  Thx.

 --Paula

 snip

 On 9/8/2013 3:50 PM, Sherry/Support wrote:
 There is no option to print the timeline (I resently sent in a request
 to the programmers for this), but you can do a work-around to print
 it out.

  1. Add a new unlinked individual, add a birthdate *after* the
 last event in the timeline
  2. Go to that person’s chronology view
  3. Select a timeline
  4. Go to Options  Report Options and deselect all the options
  5. Back in the Chronology view, click on Report to Preview and
 save to PDF or Print to send directly to the printer




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance - Suggested Sources

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kathy, I haven't gotten that deep into using RG, so I don't really have an 
opinion--though the second one would be more bothersome, I think.
 
--Paula 


 From: Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:44 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance - Suggested Sources



I have two potential issues with my Research Guidance and I want to check with 
other users before I submit a bug or suggestion report, because I'm not sure if 
they are bugs or if a feature suggestion is warranted.


First is that when I tick either a Preliminary Survey or a Suggested Source as 
Done, the number on that tab does not change (like it does if I untick a 
timeline event) - is this normal? because it would be nice if that number did 
change.

Secondly, within the Suggested Sources tab, when I tick done on a suggested 
source for, say Birth, it marks that source as done on every tab that source 
appears on.
If I've searched a source for a birth, but I havent done it for a death, I 
would like this to reflect that so that I can check again at a later time.
This is especially helpful for a distant relation who I may reasonably expect 
to be deceased or to be quite elderly, but due to whatever reason, I am not in 
a position to hear death news via normal channels.

I understand that this could greatly increase the number shown on the tab, but 
it may also make for better research and more accurate results and tree data.

Anyone got any comments on either of these two issues?

Thanks


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Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines (Under the View Menu)

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Perfect--and thinks for introducing me to the limiting options. ;)
 
--Paula 



 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Timelines (Under the View Menu)


Check your settings for the timeline. You need to make sure that you
have none of the three limiting options selected.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree
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Re: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Michele, Thanks for some marvelous tips on how to use the To-Do lists!!!
I am looking forward to v8, where they have fixed it so the filter and sort 
settings don't reset every time.
 
--Paula 



 From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report


Tis so true.  You can play around with how you enter things and how you handle 
the filters and the to-do will do pretty much do anything you want it to. Ever 
since I started using the to-do list for all of my tasks I am much more 
organized.  For example, if I am going back to do research on someone that I 
haven't worked with in a while and I see that I am missing a marriage 
date/place, I can filter my to-dos by the category Marriage Record.  I leave 
it at All Localities and I check both open and closed.  I also check all of 
the type boxes, both tagged boxed and all of the priority boxed.  I will then 
be able to see everything that I have done to try and find the marriage record. 
 I can see all of my negative searches and things that I planned to do and 
haven't yet.  This keeps me from duplicating my efforts.

The last tab, sort order, is another way to sort your tasks so that they show 
up in your list of tasks in a way that will make more sense to you.  I can 
accomplish the same sort of thing as I did above by setting my primary sort 
field to Category.  Now all my marriage tasks will be together, my census tasks 
will be together etc.   I rarely put the open date in the primary sort field 
because then it is too easy for me to see the tasks that I have been 
procrastinating on :) :) :)

One thing I would like to add.  I use the tagging option within the to-do list. 
 If something is untagged it means that I plan to search it but I haven't 
started on the task yet.  If I tag it, that means I am working on it.  For 
example, if I want to request a COD from Mississippi I will leave it untagged.  
If I have actually sent a letter to the MS Vital Office then I will tag it.  I 
will run the filter to show me everything that is tagged and I can see what all 
I am still waiting on.  I can then decide if I need to send a second request.   
I do this for all correspondence type stuff.

I can also run by untagged which will quickly show me what all I still need to 
do.  This gives you a way to further breakdown your open category of tasks.   
Is it open because I haven't done it yet or is it open because I have done it 
but I am still waiting on some sort of response.


Michele
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Re: Duplicate Messages (was Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages)

2013-09-19 Thread Mary Young
i haven't solved this yet - but it's obviously not a LUG subject so will
stop posting here about it.
Thanks for comments received
Mary Young


On 19 September 2013 15:16, Leonard Johnson legacy8.swed...@gmail.comwrote:

 Mary,

 I have been using gmail for years.  If I send a message to any Legacy
 list, I receive a copy from Legacy,
 however, this is not the case with all mailing lists.  If a I send a
 personal message I do not receive
 a copy.  E.G. TNGs mailing list does not work the same as Legacy lists.
 When I send a message to
 TNGs mailing list I do not receive a copy and, by the way, have no idea if
 my email has reached the
 mailing list.


 Leonard Johnson-Källbom
 Team Leader
 Swedish Translation Team
 legacy8.swed...@gmail.com



 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

 sorry to contradict - but receiving two copies (i.e. one to myself, and
 another as a Group Member) has not been gmail's usual behaviour. I've been
 a gmail user for years, and it's only started recently.  I notice this
 thread was labelled twice, once for my LUG mail, and again as Forum.
 Forum seems to be a new Smart Category introduced recently.  I've
 unticked it and hopefully the problem will go away :-)
 thanks for your help
 Mary Young


 On 19 September 2013 14:26, Chris Seens cseens1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ron is correct. The 1st email is your copy of the message sent to the
 user group. The second message is your message being sent out to the group
 from the list.
 Have a great day.

 Chris

 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone


 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

  Ron
 Thanks for confirming that only one copy of my msgs is seen by the
 Group.  Recently my Gmail Inbox has these duplicates (to this Group only
 AFAIK), and I wrongly assumed everyone was receiving them.  It's a
 mystery!! Honestly, I don't know where to check my email client settings; I
 know I haven't knowingly changed anything.
 Mary



 On 19 September 2013 09:47, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote:

  Mary,

 I don't think so, at least for me . It may be that your ISP is
 duplicating it. Have you also checked your email client settings.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/



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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Tessa Keough
I think this is one of many times when customers say - if you are
going to include something, make it a bells and whistles item,
advertise that you have this feature - then perhaps you want to make
sure the feature works as advertised, update the feature over time,
and keep in mind the skill level of your customer base that you
thought would use the feature.

For those who program, code, make their own websites - they are not
going to be using this feature. For others with little skills in this
area (or little interest in learning the skill-set) they may have made
their selection of  Legacy (in part) due to its advertisement that it
was providing the feature in a useful and pleasing format.

Is Legacy first and foremost a genealogy database management program
(that is a mouthful!)? YES but when you sell various features and
potential customers compare the features - look at the various reports
and reviews - you should deliver. I think Legacy does this but if the
comment that was made was this is a feature with issues for the past
nine years - this should either move up the suggestion chain and be
improved OR not be a bells and whistles feature.

Not to beat a dead horse but this was an issue with SourceWriter -
which I think is great and use and LOVE, but a selling feature
originally (and in the manual) was that you could switch your regular
sources into SourceWriter - never worked, didn't happen and people new
to the program (with the manual) still ask about it every so often.
Perhaps not overselling is a good thing. Legacy does so many things
well and is so intuitive, it should be enough to focus on the
genealogy and make suggestions about other programs that do their
little piece of the pie well.  My two cents.


Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland


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SNIP



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Re: [LegacyUG] Bookmark List

2013-09-19 Thread Tessa Keough
And lots of us do use the bookmarks - I have mine set with the
families I work with the most. It is a brilliant feature and I always
know where to find these couples - they are two clicks away (bookmark
- name). Oh, and HELP - always a plus and everywhere in Legacy.

Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 The History List is different from the bookmarks. You set the
 bookmarks. The History List is complied as you view people in the
 file.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree




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Re: [LegacyUG] Bookmark List

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Well, this was interesting.
I was wondering what the Bookmark List was, but I looked in Help before I 
asked it here.
There is an entry for Bookmarks which describes the 3 quick ones at the 
bottom of the screen, but the regular ones---do they really operate that way 
any more?  I didn't see the little bookmark icon described.  Hasn't it been 
replaced with the History List?  Automatically keeps track of your last 200 
people.  Why would you want to sort THAT?  I just use the 3 quick bookmarks at 
the bottom to facilitate my current project.  And even if you rebuilt it, the 
program would push yours down as you accessed more people, right?
I must be missing something.
 
--Paula 



 From: Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Bookmark List



Thanks Brian - I might pop a suggestion in for the arrow buttons to be 
included, it would be nice to sort them occasionally.




On 19 September 2013 01:18, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

I do not see a sort button nor are there arrow buttons to move items in
the list. If you are desperate I suppose you  could clear the list and
rebuild it from scratch in the order you want.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 18/09/2013 1:13 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
 Wondering if it is possible to rearrange the order of the bookmarks at all?

 Thanks



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Re: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report

2013-09-19 Thread Jay 1FamilyTree
Paula,

My ultimate wish list for a to-do task

At the FIELD entry, right click to select a add to-do (say for a date of
birth)
From the selectors, choose category, place, est date, and where to
research,
In my example since it was a field for date of birth, Legacy would
automatically select the category birth records, I would then select where
I am doing my research, say Cook County Ill Vitals Office, then the date
range (abt 1900) then what I am looking in (like Birth Registers 1890-1900
or a FHC Film Number)

Then I can print a report in cat seq, in year seq to maximize my time.

When I find the details and enter (or change the info in that Birth date
field), Legacy asks if it should delete or modify the To-Do item.


And hopefully I can get a report that looks something like this (the
Category header is only printed ONCE not with every Record. )

But this is what would work well for me. I am sure others have their own
ways they like..


Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Jay
1FamilyTree



*Category: **Birth Record **Locality: **Outagamie County**
_ *

Individual: *Cornelia (Nellie) DeBruin [2793]*

Birth: Abt 1865, Buchanan, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

Marriage: Peter Vandenberg [32209] (Abt 1859-Abt 1935) m.Sep 9, 1891

Death: After 1930, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, USA

Parents: Louis DeBruin [2766] and Hendrika Coenen [2742]

*Birth Records 1865*

Notes/Findings:


--

Individual: *Bridget A. Hart [154686]*

Birth: Abt 1865, Kaukauna, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

Death: Jan 3, 1929, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

Burial: , Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery, Kaukauna, Wisconsin, USA

Parents: Owen Hart [154678] and Bridgit Unknown [154680]

*Birth Records 1865 Hart, Bridget birth record abt 1865 died 1/3/1929
appleton*

Notes/Findings:

--
Individual: *Mary VanGompel [31748]*

Birth: Abt Jan 1867, Kaukauna, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

Marriage: Arnold Hietpas [23409] (Abt 1863-1923) m.Jun 17, 1889 in Little
Chute, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

Death: Jul 29, 1934, Little Chute, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

Burial: Jul 30, 1934, St. John Catholic Cemetery, Little Chute, Wisconsin,
USA

Parents: Martin VanGompel [22602] and Catherine Verhagen [25318]

*Birth Records 1867 Mary VanGompel, died 7/29/1934 Mrs Arnold Hietpas*

Notes/ Findings:


-










On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Jay,
 If you have a to-do item for each thing you want to find, and have
 specified the repository as the vital records office you plan to visit,
 then print the report of to-do items for just that repository, sorted by
 category first (BMD), then ... well, you would need to enter the year in
 the task name and then sort on that third.   (or if you really don't
 care when you technically opened a to-do item, you could enter the date in
 question there...? tho I haven't tested entering a date in the past)

 If all your individuals in question are in your Legacy database, I'm not
 sure why you would consider getting another genealogy program just to
 produce a to-do list?

 Alternately, if you don't want to use to-do lists at all, but just want a
 list of who to look for, you could try Search.  It would take two passes.
  Example is whole state of Massachusetts.

 INDIVIDUALS
 Search  Find  Individual Birth Place contains Massachusetts OR
 Individual Death Place contains Massachusetts
 Click Print - select what data you want (up to 3 rows) and print  or
 generate CSV so you can sort it by date.
 (You might want to separate this into 2 passes, so you have a births
 list and a deaths list... depends on how the records are organized at the
 VR office.)

 MARRIAGES
 Search  Find  Marriage Marriage Place contains Massachusetts
 Select fields, Print / generate CSV

 --Paula

   --
  *From:* Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 1:39 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report

 Wow,  that does not seem logical to me at all.

 Am I looking in the wrong place on how to create a report for a research
 trip to a vital records office where I want to maximize my time
 by searching for Birth Death and Marriage records in a specific order like
 first all births, sorted ascending by year,
 then all marriages ascending by year
 then all deaths ascending by year?

 Or is another Genealogy program better at doing this seemingly simple task?


 Jay







 On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
  wrote:

 That is the way the To-Do report is designed. The personal details for
 the person 

Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source for Crew Lists in Source Writer

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
Joyce,  Lately, I have been using Basic format master sources when it's just 
too much trouble to find exactly the right SW template.  I just get to the 
point where I say I'm not publishing this and all the information is 
recorded so I can find the document again so... good enough.  You can even 
make the output match Evidence Explained, so why defer entering your data 
and/or get a headache searching for the perfect SW template.  Just my 2 cents.

--Paula



 From: Joyce Herzog joyce.her...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:03 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source for Crew Lists in Source Writer



Does anyone have a suggestion for what Master Source to use when
entering Crew Lists? I have a person in my one-name study that worked on ships. 
Also, my father shipped out for about ten years and if I can
ever figure out the Master Source to use, I can enter them both. I don't think 
the immigration  emigration  templates work too well.
Besides, they weren't doing either, just working!

Thanks for any help anyone can offer.

Joyce Drinkwater Herzog


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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Tessa Keough
No Ron - you are missing my point (sorry if I was unclear). I think
that webpages are an important selling feature and that being said,
they should work as customers expect or would like them to.

I think sometimes the various companies are in such a competition of
sorts to get features added or improved (and I guess the customer base
is encouraged to demand that) that sometimes the usefulness factor
decreases or there is so much going on that improvements don't get
made. Some features are treated a little like orphans once they are
put into the program. Now it is up to the customer base to let the
company know what we want and what doesn't work. But it is concerning
to hear that something that does not work right or well, does not get
fixed over a long period of time.

Bells and whistles as I used it refers to plugging something as a
selling point and then not providing it or providing less than what
was promised - something that sounds good, is new and bright and
shiny, but does not live up to hype (or does not live up to it over
time - I don't expect perfection).

Is that clearer or still a bit muddy? For the record, I think if there
is a feature in a program, it should work. If it does not work it
should be fixed or removed. I am a person who wants all the parts to
work and play nicely together.

Tessa

Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland

On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 Tessa,

 I confess that I am probably quite missing your point here.

 Are you saying that Legacy webpages are just bells and whistles? Do you apply 
 that definition to reports and the publication centre?

 I agree that Legacy is genealogy program (although I prefer Family History), 
 but what use is such a program if there is no output, just the data on a 
 screen?

 Bells and whistles, definitely not, rather essential parts of the program.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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[LegacyUG] Families app and IOS7

2013-09-19 Thread Paul Gray
Has anybody using Families for iPad/iPhone downloaded IOS7 and is the app
compatible with the new OS? I can see nothing about it on the TelGen
website.

Paul Gray




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source for Crew Lists in Source Writer

2013-09-19 Thread Paula Ryburn
All good points, Tessa.  I hadn't thought about the possibility of blurring 
event/fact and master source.
What lately has irked me about SW is that even the internet templates are 
very different.  A case of too many choices.
 
--Paula 



 From: Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source for Crew Lists in Source Writer


Quick question - what are you looking at? If the crew list is from an
online database, is that a database or an index? If you are looking at
original records, it might be a journal or log. I always take a look
at the description of the document type (easily done at ancestry for
example).  In the instance of Dorset Crew Lists their reference to the
source reads as follows:

Ancestry.com. Dorset, England, Crew Lists, 1863-1914 [database
on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. This
collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project
contributors.
Original data: Dorset Crew Lists. Dorchester, Dorset: Dorset History Centre.

Elizabeth Shown Mills always asks - what are YOU looking at (what are
you holding in your hand)? And then go from there. In the example
above it is an online database. I might be all wrong (and I am sure
someone will tell me) BUT your source is different from the event/fact
- the event/fact would be employment and the source would be the crew
list.

Does that help or does it muddy the waters for you?

Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland



On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Joyce Herzog joyce.her...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone have a suggestion for what Master Source to use when entering
 Crew Lists? I have a person in my one-name study that worked on ships. Also,
 my father shipped out for about ten years and if I can ever figure out the
 Master Source to use, I can enter them both. I don't think the immigration 
 emigration  templates work too well. Besides, they weren't doing either,
 just working!

 Thanks for any help anyone can offer.

 Joyce Drinkwater Herzog





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Re: [LegacyUG] To - Do Report

2013-09-19 Thread Brian/Support
We are happy to consider suggestions for new features.

In Legacy 6.0 and 7.0 you can suggest a new feature by clicking on the
link on the Legacy Home Tab Support Section

Other users can make a suggestion here:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp

Use the drop down list in the first box to select a category, Legacy 7
or Legacy Charting.

Submit your proposed change to how To Do's are created or a new To Do
report format there. Please make them two separate suggestions. They are
easier to track since each involves different sections of Legacy.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 19/09/2013 1:24 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree wrote:
 Paula,

 My ultimate wish list for a to-do task

 At the FIELD entry, right click to select a add to-do (say for a date of
 birth)
From the selectors, choose category, place, est date, and where to
 research,
 In my example since it was a field for date of birth, Legacy would
 automatically select the category birth records, I would then select where
 I am doing my research, say Cook County Ill Vitals Office, then the date
 range (abt 1900) then what I am looking in (like Birth Registers 1890-1900
 or a FHC Film Number)

 Then I can print a report in cat seq, in year seq to maximize my time.

 When I find the details and enter (or change the info in that Birth date
 field), Legacy asks if it should delete or modify the To-Do item.


 And hopefully I can get a report that looks something like this (the
 Category header is only printed ONCE not with every Record. )

 But this is what would work well for me. I am sure others have their own
 ways they like..


 Thanks for taking the time to respond.

 Jay
 1FamilyTree



 *Category: **Birth Record **Locality: **Outagamie County**
 _ *

 Individual: *Cornelia (Nellie) DeBruin [2793]*

 Birth: Abt 1865, Buchanan, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

 Marriage: Peter Vandenberg [32209] (Abt 1859-Abt 1935) m.Sep 9, 1891

 Death: After 1930, Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin, USA

 Parents: Louis DeBruin [2766] and Hendrika Coenen [2742]

 *Birth Records 1865*

 Notes/Findings:


 --

 Individual: *Bridget A. Hart [154686]*

 Birth: Abt 1865, Kaukauna, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

 Death: Jan 3, 1929, Appleton, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

 Burial: , Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery, Kaukauna, Wisconsin, USA

 Parents: Owen Hart [154678] and Bridgit Unknown [154680]

 *Birth Records 1865 Hart, Bridget birth record abt 1865 died 1/3/1929
 appleton*

 Notes/Findings:

 --
 Individual: *Mary VanGompel [31748]*

 Birth: Abt Jan 1867, Kaukauna, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

 Marriage: Arnold Hietpas [23409] (Abt 1863-1923) m.Jun 17, 1889 in Little
 Chute, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

 Death: Jul 29, 1934, Little Chute, Outagamie, Wisconsin, USA

 Burial: Jul 30, 1934, St. John Catholic Cemetery, Little Chute, Wisconsin,
 USA

 Parents: Martin VanGompel [22602] and Catherine Verhagen [25318]

 *Birth Records 1867 Mary VanGompel, died 7/29/1934 Mrs Arnold Hietpas*

 Notes/ Findings:


 -










 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Paula Ryburn 
 paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Jay,
 If you have a to-do item for each thing you want to find, and have
 specified the repository as the vital records office you plan to visit,
 then print the report of to-do items for just that repository, sorted by
 category first (BMD), then ... well, you would need to enter the year in
 the task name and then sort on that third.   (or if you really don't
 care when you technically opened a to-do item, you could enter the date in
 question there...? tho I haven't tested entering a date in the past)

 If all your individuals in question are in your Legacy database, I'm not
 sure why you would consider getting another genealogy program just to
 produce a to-do list?

 Alternately, if you don't want to use to-do lists at all, but just want a
 list of who to look for, you could try Search.  It would take two passes.
   Example is whole state of Massachusetts.

 INDIVIDUALS
 Search  Find  Individual Birth Place contains Massachusetts OR
 Individual Death Place contains Massachusetts
 Click Print - select what data you want (up to 3 rows) and print  or
 generate CSV so you can sort it by date.
 (You might want to separate this into 2 passes, so you have a births
 list and a deaths list... depends on how the records are organized at the
 VR office.)

 MARRIAGES
 Search  Find  Marriage Marriage Place contains Massachusetts
 Select fields, Print / generate CSV

 --Paula

--
   *From:* Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com
 

Re: [LegacyUG] Families app and IOS7

2013-09-19 Thread Ronald Bernier
Paul,
Families is working fine with iOS7 for me.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:

 Has anybody using Families for iPad/iPhone downloaded IOS7 and is the app
 compatible with the new OS? I can see nothing about it on the TelGen
 website.

 Paul Gray




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance - Suggested Sources

2013-09-19 Thread Kathy Thompson
The second one is quite bothersome for me actually.
When I mark on the Births tab that I've check the vital records, it also marks 
that on the death tab. I haven't checked for a vital record for a death yet, 
the person may not even yet be deceased, just very old. I need to be able to 
come back to this and know what I've checked for different areas.

Kathy

On 20/09/2013, at 2:32 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Kathy, I haven't gotten that deep into using RG, so I don't really have an 
 opinion--though the second one would be more bothersome, I think.

 --Paula
 From: Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:44 PM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance - Suggested Sources

 I have two potential issues with my Research Guidance and I want to check 
 with other users before I submit a bug or suggestion report, because I'm not 
 sure if they are bugs or if a feature suggestion is warranted.

 First is that when I tick either a Preliminary Survey or a Suggested Source 
 as Done, the number on that tab does not change (like it does if I untick a 
 timeline event) - is this normal? because it would be nice if that number did 
 change.

 Secondly, within the Suggested Sources tab, when I tick done on a suggested 
 source for, say Birth, it marks that source as done on every tab that 
 source appears on.
 If I've searched a source for a birth, but I havent done it for a death, I 
 would like this to reflect that so that I can check again at a later time.
 This is especially helpful for a distant relation who I may reasonably expect 
 to be deceased or to be quite elderly, but due to whatever reason, I am not 
 in a position to hear death news via normal channels.
 I understand that this could greatly increase the number shown on the tab, 
 but it may also make for better research and more accurate results and tree 
 data.

 Anyone got any comments on either of these two issues?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread singhals
Problem there being -- each customer expects or would like
something different. There's more customers than programs.

I have three criteria for my webpages -- they should load
fast at 4800bps, be not-ugly, be reasonably grouped. So far,
every program that has done any one of 'em doesn't do the
other two. Then again, two of those are fairly subjective ...

Cheryl

Tessa Keough wrote:
 No Ron - you are missing my point (sorry if I was unclear). I think
 that webpages are an important selling feature and that being said,
 they should work as customers expect or would like them to.

 I think sometimes the various companies are in such a competition of
 sorts to get features added or improved (and I guess the customer base
 is encouraged to demand that) that sometimes the usefulness factor
 decreases or there is so much going on that improvements don't get
 made. Some features are treated a little like orphans once they are
 put into the program. Now it is up to the customer base to let the
 company know what we want and what doesn't work. But it is concerning
 to hear that something that does not work right or well, does not get
 fixed over a long period of time.

 Bells and whistles as I used it refers to plugging something as a
 selling point and then not providing it or providing less than what
 was promised - something that sounds good, is new and bright and
 shiny, but does not live up to hype (or does not live up to it over
 time - I don't expect perfection).

 Is that clearer or still a bit muddy? For the record, I think if there
 is a feature in a program, it should work. If it does not work it
 should be fixed or removed. I am a person who wants all the parts to
 work and play nicely together.

 Tessa

 Tessa Keough
 Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
 Legacy Virtual Users' Group
 One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland

 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Ron Ferguson
 ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk  wrote:
 Tessa,

 I confess that I am probably quite missing your point here.

 Are you saying that Legacy webpages are just bells and whistles? Do you 
 apply that definition to reports and the publication centre?

 I agree that Legacy is genealogy program (although I prefer Family History), 
 but what use is such a program if there is no output, just the data on a 
 screen?

 Bells and whistles, definitely not, rather essential parts of the program.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

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RE: [LegacyUG] Families app and IOS7

2013-09-19 Thread Paul Gray
Thanks, Ron. Good to know. I didn't want to download until I had some 
indication that my critical apps are compatible.

Paul

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Sent: September-19-13 12:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families app and IOS7

Paul,
Families is working fine with iOS7 for me.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:

 Has anybody using Families for iPad/iPhone downloaded IOS7 and is the
 app compatible with the new OS? I can see nothing about it on the
 TelGen website.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Bookmark List

2013-09-19 Thread Brian/Support
Paula,

If you use Bookmarks as the search term then click display you will see
there are several help topics. Even the one on Regular Bookmarks
explains how to add a bookmark by selecting a couple then right clicking
on the little book icon beside the usual 3 bookmarks to add a bookmark
to the list. You can have up to 200 entries in that list. The beauty is
that, unlike the history which changes as you navigate in your file,
those saved bookmarks do not change unless you change them. To open the
list left click on the book icon.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 19/09/2013 12:53 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 Well, this was interesting.
 I was wondering what the Bookmark List was, but I looked in Help before I 
 asked it here.
 There is an entry for Bookmarks which describes the 3 quick ones at the 
 bottom of the screen, but the regular ones---do they really operate that 
 way any more?  I didn't see the little bookmark icon described.  Hasn't it 
 been replaced with the History List?  Automatically keeps track of your last 
 200 people.  Why would you want to sort THAT?  I just use the 3 quick 
 bookmarks at the bottom to facilitate my current project.  And even if you 
 rebuilt it, the program would push yours down as you accessed more people, 
 right?
 I must be missing something.

 --Paula



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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update - NEW INFO

2013-09-19 Thread David Dearth
These odd changes to the Modified Date do seem to be related to using Family 
Search from within Legacy.  Many thanks to Bob who discovered this.  I know 
that Jim from tech support said that this was not reversible, however, that 
would seem to not be the case.  Since I have been still holding off entering 
new information, I tried to restore from my last backup before August 29 - and 
it worked!  No errors, and best of all, my old modified dates have returned!  
The only thing I need to re-enter is the info that I was working on the day I 
updated and visited Family Search.  So the latest version does indeed seem to 
work when restoring an older backup from previous version.  I will not be 
visiting Family Search again from within Legacy unless I know this has been 
fixed.

Everything in my data appears to be ok, unless there is something else I don't 
see that is not right about the database.

Dave



From: Ronald Bernier
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update


This is yet another example of why I will not use FS.  Overall, linking to FS 
seems to be creating problems that far outweigh any benefits.  I will stick 
with manually searching FS and/or Ancestry.  If any changes are made or data 
added to my database, it will be by my choice only.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from iCloud
On Sep 13, 2013, at 08:55 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:


  I wouldn't be surprised to learn that FS changed the
  last-modified date in one's desktop data. I know for a fact
  that merely /looking/ at the details at FS creates a
  change-record and stamps you as the maker of the last change.

  Cheryl

  Bob Janice wrote:

Since it appears that my dates have changed also, I did a little bit of
playing around tonight trying to pinpoint the problem. What made me
curious was the fact that some people said their dates did change while
others said they didn't.
I noticed that the last modified date would change if I logged into
Family Search from within Legacy and simply looked at the possible
matches for an individual. I simply looked - didn't update any of the
information either from or to Family Search.
If someone else could take a look at this it MAY explain why some
peoples dates changed and others did not. Perhaps those that did had
accessed Family Search and those that didn't did not access it. Just a
thought . . .


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Re: [LegacyUG] Families app and IOS7

2013-09-19 Thread Graham Love
Seems to be fine

Sent from my iPad

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 Has anybody using Families for iPad/iPhone downloaded IOS7 and is the app
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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
Thank you Tessa. It may be a language problem. For us bells and whistles a 
lot of surplus stuff which most people do not require nor would use - program 
bloat.

I can now see where you are coming from, although in my view webpages are much 
more than a selling feature.

Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Tessa Keough
Ron and Cheryl
This is not the first time I have misunderstood English (the British
vs American kind). Then again I may have used the term incorrectly.
Glad we are on the same page now. Thanks for pointing this out as I
may have been unclear to others as well. Of course we are not going to
get everything we want in any program, but I do think getting fonts to
work in a webpage might be high on the list.

Tessa

Tessa Keough
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Legacy Virtual Users' Group
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 Problem there being -- each customer expects or would like
 something different. There's more customers than programs.

SNIP



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[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting

2013-09-19 Thread Syble Glasscock
I know there's been some controversy lately, so I thought I'd share a positive 
about Legacy.  I'm sure many of you have use the Charting and had it printed, 
I'd only created a few just to check them out some time ago.  
 
A family reunion is in a few days, so I decided to try to have one printed for 
our Silent Auction.   I am very impressed with the outcome.   The program was 
showing a size of 42.50 x 33.  I was able to get an 18 x 24, very readable and 
printed on a canvas for less than $25 at Office Max.  I'm looking forward to 
playing around with one for myself, and for those who haven't tried it, I 
encourage you to do so.  Be sure to check prices, there was much variation, 
also Glossy and Matte finish is available for slightly less.
 
Syble



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RE: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update - NEW INFO

2013-09-19 Thread Lee Bruch
Did you visit and link with Family Search on computer where the dates were NOT 
modified?

If not, then Dave’s message perhaps explains why.

And if not, if you are willing to experiment (after backing up) try visiting 
and linking with Family Search on that computer, then tell us the result.



From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:26 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update - NEW INFO



That still doesn't answer why all of my dates have been modified on one 
computer - but not on the other!





On 20 September 2013 06:25, David Dearth deart...@hotmail.com wrote:

These odd changes to the Modified Date do seem to be related to using Family 
Search from within Legacy.  Many thanks to Bob who discovered this.  I know 
that Jim from tech support said that this was not reversible, however, that 
would seem to not be the case.  Since I have been still holding off entering 
new information, I tried to restore from my last backup before August 29 - and 
it worked!  No errors, and best of all, my old modified dates have returned!  
The only thing I need to re-enter is the info that I was working on the day I 
updated and visited Family Search.  So the latest version does indeed seem to 
work when restoring an older backup from previous version.  I will not be 
visiting Family Search again from within Legacy unless I know this has been 
fixed.



Everything in my data appears to be ok, unless there is something else I don't 
see that is not right about the database.



Dave





From: Ronald Bernier mailto:ronaldbern...@icloud.com

Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:03 AM

To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Cc: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update



This is yet another example of why I will not use FS.  Overall, linking to FS 
seems to be creating problems that far outweigh any benefits.  I will stick 
with manually searching FS and/or Ancestry.  If any changes are made or data 
added to my database, it will be by my choice only.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from iCloud


On Sep 13, 2013, at 08:55 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that FS changed the
last-modified date in one's desktop data. I know for a fact
that merely /looking/ at the details at FS creates a
change-record and stamps you as the maker of the last change.

Cheryl

Bob Janice wrote:



Since it appears that my dates have changed also, I did a little bit of

playing around tonight trying to pinpoint the problem. What made me

curious was the fact that some people said their dates did change while

others said they didn't.

I noticed that the last modified date would change if I logged into

Family Search from within Legacy and simply looked at the possible

matches for an individual. I simply looked - didn't update any of the

information either from or to Family Search.

If someone else could take a look at this it MAY explain why some

peoples dates changed and others did not. Perhaps those that did had

accessed Family Search and those that didn't did not access it. Just a

thought . . .



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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update - NEW INFO

2013-09-19 Thread 2marion wimps
Lee - that's the silly part - I didn't link with FS on the computer where
all the dates have been changed - I did a search and there was no modified
date anywhere prior to 21 Aug 2013 I think it was. On the computer that I
had linked to FS I did a search for all modified dates prior to 21 Aug 2013
and there were hundreds of them so I am completely confused as to why. It
doesn't really bother me in some ways but it's just curious that some
people think it's to do with FS but the computer is saying otherwise it
seems!
Marion


On 20 September 2013 09:43, Lee Bruch lbr...@nwlink.com wrote:

 Did you visit and link with Family Search on computer where the dates were
 NOT modified?

 If not, then Dave’s message perhaps explains why.

 And if not, if you are willing to experiment (after backing up) try
 visiting and linking with Family Search on that computer, then tell us the
 result.

 ** **

 *From:* 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:26 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update - NEW INFO***
 *

 ** **

 That still doesn't answer why all of my dates have been modified on one
 computer - but not on the other!

  

 ** **

 On 20 September 2013 06:25, David Dearth deart...@hotmail.com wrote:

 These odd changes to the Modified Date do seem to be related to using
 Family Search from within Legacy.  Many thanks to Bob who discovered this.
 I know that Jim from tech support said that this was not reversible,
 however, that would seem to not be the case.  Since I have been still
 holding off entering new information, I tried to restore from my last
 backup before August 29 - and it worked!  No errors, and best of all, my
 old modified dates have returned!  The only thing I need to re-enter is the
 info that I was working on the day I updated and visited Family Search.  So
 the latest version does indeed seem to work when restoring an older backup
 from previous version.  I will not be visiting Family Search again from
 within Legacy unless I know this has been fixed.

  

 Everything in my data appears to be ok, unless there is something else I
 don't see that is not right about the database.

  

 Dave

  

 ** **

 *From:* Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@icloud.com 

 *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 9:03 AM

 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 

 *Cc:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com 

 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

 ** **

 This is yet another example of why I will not use FS.  Overall, linking to
 FS seems to be creating problems that far outweigh any benefits.  I will
 stick with manually searching FS and/or Ancestry.  If any changes are made
 or data added to my database, it will be by my choice only.

 Ron Bernier

 Woonsocket, RI

 Sent from iCloud


 On Sep 13, 2013, at 08:55 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:

 I wouldn't be surprised to learn that FS changed the
 last-modified date in one's desktop data. I know for a fact
 that merely /looking/ at the details at FS creates a
 change-record and stamps you as the maker of the last change.

 Cheryl

 Bob Janice wrote:

 

 Since it appears that my dates have changed also, I did a little bit of***
 *

 playing around tonight trying to pinpoint the problem. What made me

 curious was the fact that some people said their dates did change while***
 *

 others said they didn't.

 I noticed that the last modified date would change if I logged into

 Family Search from within Legacy and simply looked at the possible

 matches for an individual. I simply looked - didn't update any of the

 information either from or to Family Search.

 If someone else could take a look at this it MAY explain why some

 peoples dates changed and others did not. Perhaps those that did had

 accessed Family Search and those that didn't did not access it. Just a

 thought . . .



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[LegacyUG] Reuse abandoned RINs

2013-09-19 Thread Cliff Gittens
For what its worth...

I just noticed that my system was not using abandoned RIN's even though the
Reuse abandoned RIN's flag in the Options/data defaults screen was set to
the on position (i.e. it was ticked).

To fix the issue I un-ticked the Reuse abandoned RIN's flag in the
Options/data defaults screen and saved the setting.

I then went back to the Reuse abandoned RIN's flag in the Options/data
defaults screen and ticked the setting to on.  Saved the setting.

When I tried adding a new individual the Reuse Abandoned RIN's was again
functioning as it should.

Maybe this will help someone.



--
Cliff Gittens
Gittens One-name Study
Surrey, BC, Canada
www.gittensfamily.ca



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RE: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Wow. Learn something new every day. For us yanks, I fairly certain that the 
phrase bells and whistles means...wait, I just googled it... the things that 
something, especially a device or machine, has or does that are not necessary 
but that make it more exciting or interesting. Usually I think it means extra 
enhancements which is a good thing. As I understand what Ron is saying is that 
the Brits think of it as not necessarily a good thing.



-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:16 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Webpages

Thank you Tessa. It may be a language problem. For us bells and whistles a 
lot of surplus stuff which most people do not require nor would use - program 
bloat.

I can now see where you are coming from, although in my view webpages are much 
more than a selling feature.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/





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RE: [LegacyUG] Webpages

2013-09-19 Thread Ron Ferguson
Yup, that is what I am saying! But that is in the north, down south they may 
think differently :-).

Ron Ferguson
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