Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Pete Beatty]

I have a setup similar to John's.
I have two machines: one for Daily use and one used on Travel.
I have a NAS installed at home with redundant hard drives.
The NAS can be accessed from the WEB (Double PASSWORD Protected).
The NAS retains the last edited version of the my data file.

When I finish updating my work data, on either machine.  The Machine will
automatically update the modified files on the NAS.
When I power on either my Home or Travel machine,  the first task the
machine performs is to sync with the NAS.
This makes sure that I am always working with the newest version.

In addition, both system will  automatically backup the machine to the NAS,
daily.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[John Faulks]

I have a NAS on my home network and all my files are there in a common
folder. I have previously tried two clouds (Dropbox and OneDrive) and both
slow things down noticeably. The other issue I have had with cloud drives
is occasional weird program issues that need more than the file maintenance
tools to fix (index errors as I recall). Key is to make sure you only have
one instance running at a time. With files on my NAS, I get a warning
when I forget and use a second PC. Also check all your settings are the
same - especially locations but also the starting family file. I now always
prompt for the opening file at startup after putting some new edits into an
older version. Fortunately search can find modified dates. And as always,
have a good backup plan.

JTF
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On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 9:09 PM CE WOOD  wrote:

> My network
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> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
> 1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and
>
> 1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research
>
> 2. Advantage "set it and forget it"
>
>
> OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled
> backups:
>
> 1. local NAS, and
> 2. Acronis Cloud.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull 
> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[CE WOOD]

My network

​CE


From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
William (Bill) R. Linhart 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:05 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and

1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research

2. Advantage "set it and forget it"

OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled backups:
1. local NAS, and
2. Acronis Cloud.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull 
mailto:treeclimber1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[irhocking]

Dropbox

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
William (Bill) R. Linhart
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:05 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

 

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?

 

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

 

1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and 

 

1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research 

 

2. Advantage "set it and forget it"  

 

OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled backups: 
 

1. local NAS, and 

2. Acronis Cloud.  

 

 

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull mailto:treeclimber1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everybody,

 

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

 

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?

 

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

 

Gary

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[sarah hughes]

Hi

I also just use the Legacy Cloud. When I got a 2nd laptop (for friends/
family tho still use it myself) I wanted Legacy on that too, so got a tip
off this group and now use their Cloud.
I do, however. also have my tree on Genes Reunited, and I have an external
hard drive backed up to this laptop.

All the best, Sarah Hughes

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 15:24, Linda Greethurst  wrote:

> I use the Legacy cloud for the data - no extra app needed; simple to use.
> Backup on one computer; restore on the other.
>
> I do date entry ONLY on the desktop; pictures are linked on the desktop;
> all backed up to external drive and a flash drive too. I use the laptop to
> carry around with me while researching.  And I also use Families for my
> phone.  Again, easy syncing from desktop to phone.
>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 5:06 AM William (Bill) R. Linhart <
> wrlinh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
>> SECONDARY computer?
>>
>> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>>
>> 1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and
>>
>> 1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research
>>
>> 2. Advantage "set it and forget it"
>>
>>
>> OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled
>> backups:
>>
>> 1. local NAS, and
>> 2. Acronis Cloud.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>>>
>>> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
>>> SECONDARY computer?
>>>
>>> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>>>
>>> Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Linda Greethurst]

I use the Legacy cloud for the data - no extra app needed; simple to use.
Backup on one computer; restore on the other.

I do date entry ONLY on the desktop; pictures are linked on the desktop;
all backed up to external drive and a flash drive too. I use the laptop to
carry around with me while researching.  And I also use Families for my
phone.  Again, easy syncing from desktop to phone.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 5:06 AM William (Bill) R. Linhart <
wrlinh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
> 1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and
>
> 1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research
>
> 2. Advantage "set it and forget it"
>
>
> OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled
> backups:
>
> 1. local NAS, and
> 2. Acronis Cloud.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>>
>> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
>> SECONDARY computer?
>>
>> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[limitless.eternity]

I use Dropbox.  The reason for it is that my family members in other locations 
are able to see the exact same file.  However, I do not put all my media there. 
 I keep my media on my hard drive, but I try to link all media that is 
available online with an internet address in the sources, as well as 
referencing the downloaded copy on my hard drive.  This is because as far as I 
can tell, Legacy uses what I’ve called a hard directory system rather than a 
relative one.  In other words, the link to the media takes you to the exact 
place on the hard drive rather than moving up or down one directory from where 
it already is.  Again, my reasoning is based on access by other individuals 
throughout the world, not just my own two or three computers that I could set 
up exactly the same structure if I chose.



I do with there was a mobile version of it, though!



Anne



From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
William (Bill) R. Linhart
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:05 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing



What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?



What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?



1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and



1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research



2. Advantage "set it and forget it"



OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled backups:

1. local NAS, and

2. Acronis Cloud.





On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull mailto:treeclimber1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi everybody,



I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.



What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?



What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?



Gary

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[John Francis]

I live in a somewhat remote rural area where the broadband speed is 
about 1.5 Mb/s, so I avoid doing anything via cloud. I simply transfer 
.fdb files and appropriate media files via a USB memory stick. Quick and 
easy. My backups are to an external hard disk.


John Francis
(Suffolk, UK)

On 29/03/2020 11:05, William (Bill) R. Linhart wrote:
What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?


What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and

1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research

2. Advantage "set it and forget it"


OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled 
backups:


1. local NAS, and
2. Acronis Cloud.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull > wrote:


Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer
and a SECONDARY computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[William (Bill) R. Linhart]

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
SECONDARY computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

1a. DROPBOX (via cloud) for  Legacy data and media, and

1b. EVERNOTE (via cloud) for Research

2. Advantage "set it and forget it"


OTHER:  For backup I use ACRONIS to create two (2) regularly scheduled
backups:

1. local NAS, and
2. Acronis Cloud.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Gary Crull 
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Cathy Pinner]

Ian Macaulay,

The Legacy database itself - the .fdb file has a size limit of 2 GB so 
you don't have a 7 GB .fdb file. You may well have 7 GB of Legacy 
related files if you are including your Media files.


Re the survey question.

To change computer I restore the latest data backup which has been saved 
to Dropbox. I keep my Legacy Media in Dropbox.
Because my media paths use the [Default Media Folder] code, I just have 
to set Options > Customise 6.2 to have media relinked. I don't change 
computer often.
If I changed computer often, I'd keep my working database and media on 
an external drive, making sure I had backups elsewhere and simply move 
the drive from one computer to another.
Some people find it useful to use the Legacy Cloud backup to change 
computer and restore from this backup. This is just the data file.


Cathy


Ian Macaulay 
Friday, 13 March 2020 3:03 AM
I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a 
NAS drive.
I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the 
main files, So no on the fly updates.


I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have 
less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.

Something is skewey

Ian




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Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup 


Friday, 13 March 2020 2:16 AM
I have spent thousands of hours (not sure I would want to know exactly 
how many!) working on my database. I now have over 713,000 individuals 
in my database, which is over 1GB in size. Frankly, I don't want to 
lose all that time and work! So I use a cloud backup service 
(BackBlaze) as a backup. Also, every time I make a change in my 
database, I compact the file and then back it up to a flash drive and 
also an external hard drive, using Allway Sync. It is very easy to 
use. I just tell it to compare the relevant folders on my SSD drive 
and my other drive and copy the files with the most recent dates to 
the other drive. Just to be safe, I also do the same with my Google 
Drive File Stream, so that my most recent Legacy database is always in 
the cloud in two different forms, on my local SSD "hard" drive, and 
also on two separate external drives, one hard drive and one flash drive.


I have a second laptop that I occasionally use. Whenever I want to 
transfer my database to the other laptop, I use Allway Sync to do it. 
It usually takes a minute or two to do the transfer. I already have 
the most recent form of the database on one of my backup drives, so I 
just attach one of those to the secondary computer, run Allway Sync, 
and then I am up and ready to go.


Peace, Loren Johns
Guatemala City, Guatemala

"I will accept no bull from your house" (Ps. 50:9, RSV).


On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 01:57:52 PM EDT, Gary Crull 
 wrote:



Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?


What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary
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Friday, 13 March 2020 1:56 AM
Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?


What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary




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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Jerry Kime]

Ian,

Those only connected by links to the data file.  I think you may be 
looking at the size of the data folder.  If you have a lot of back ups 
in it the folder could easily get to that size. the data file is the one 
with (name).fdb.  For instance, my own data folder  has 16 days of back 
up files and is 16.5 gb.  but my data file (name).fdb is only 516.740 kb.


Jerry

On 3/12/2020 4:27 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
I must be doing something weird.  Perhaps its just the photos and 
documents that are taking the space.

I will have to take a look see.

Ian

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jerry Kime > wrote:


Ian,

I have 312k people and the size of my data file is just over 1/2 gb.

Jerry

On 3/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go
on a
> NAS drive.
> I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them
to the
> main files, So no on the fly updates.
>
> I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have
> less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.
> Something is skewey
>
> Ian
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ian Macaulay]

Sorry,  I see what you folks are looking at now.   I count the dbase photos
and documents as one file.  They are not all Access but are linked as a
database.  Legacy alone is less than a GB.

Ian



On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:39 PM Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> Ian, as a program based on Microsoft Access, the maximum possible size of
> your database is 2GB. Did you mean 2MB?
>
> Peace,
> Loren Johns
> Guatemala City, Guatemala
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> On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 03:30:18 PM EDT, Jerry Kime <
> phanto...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Ian,
>
> I have 312k people and the size of my data file is just over 1/2 gb.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 3/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> > I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a
> > NAS drive.
> > I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the
> > main files, So no on the fly updates.
> >
> > I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have
> > less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.
> > Something is skewey
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ian Macaulay]

I must be doing something weird.  Perhaps its just the photos and documents
that are taking the space.
I will have to take a look see.

Ian

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jerry Kime 
wrote:

> Ian,
>
> I have 312k people and the size of my data file is just over 1/2 gb.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 3/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> > I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a
> > NAS drive.
> > I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the
> > main files, So no on the fly updates.
> >
> > I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have
> > less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.
> > Something is skewey
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Margaret Gagliardi]

Thanks Jerry.  Great idea and I will try it.
Margaret

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:25 PM Jerry Kime 
wrote:

> Margaret,
>
> On the second computer, copy the .fdb  into the data folder (it will
> overwrite the old one) and copy any updated media folders to the second
> computer also, and you in business and up to date on that computer.  This
> also works in reverse ie:  updating computer 1 from cpmputer 2.  I will say
> that for this to work smoothly your paths to the files ( where the Legacy
> folders are located)  should be the same on both computers. If they are
> not, You will have to fiddle with the locations in the options  6.2  and
> possibly 6.1.
>
> Jerry
> On 3/12/2020 12:04 PM, Margaret Gagliardi wrote:
>
> Jerry,
> I also use a USB or External Hard Drive to backup - after backing up to my
> PC.  How do you update your 2nd PC?
> Thanks
> Margaret
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ward Walker  wrote:
>
>> I also use a USB drive, except that my _live_ .fdb and media files are on
>> it. My backups go to the computer’s hard drive (and from there
>> automatically to the cloud using Carbonite).
>>
>>   Ward
>>
>> *From:* Jerry Kime
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:33 PM
>> *To:* legacy
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing
>>
>>
>> My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one computer, I
>> save the .fdb file and the media files to the external and then update the
>> other computer.
>>
>> Jerry
>> On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>>
>> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
>> SECONDARY computer?
>>
>> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>>
>> Gary
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Christopher Seward Sr.]

Ronald, I would disagree. Ignoring a problem, or pretending that a 
problem doesn't make you want to use a different solution, doesn't fix 
the problem.  If Dennis is expressing that this issue is bothersome 
enough to make him consider using a different product, knowing that I am 
not the only one feeling that way helps me, and is hardly a waste of 
time. Telling someone that they are wasting your time by complaining 
about issues is non-productive, and does not offer a solution.


On 3/12/2020 2:18 PM, Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
Dennis, please, change if you are unhappy with Legacy, but don’t waste 
your time or ours by repeatedly telling us you are going to change. 
 Your complaining has NOTHING to do with the original question.


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On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:09 PM, Dennis Holtby > wrote:
That’s why I’m considering changing. I”ve never found an easy way to 
do it. I’ve always had to do a back-up/restore to move data between 
computers.


Dennis

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gary Crull 
mailto:treeclimber1...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer
and a SECONDARY computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?


Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[johan]

Ian, 

 

The database file itself (*.fdb) contains only links to your media files. As 
such it is indeed far smaller than the 7GB you quote.

 

Your 7GB is probably the backup size of the *.fdb file AND your media files 
(pictures etc) stored on your pc.

 

 

Kind regards,

Johan

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup
Sent: 12 March 2020 20:39
To: Legacy User Group 
Cc: Loren L. Johns 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

 

Ian, as a program based on Microsoft Access, the maximum possible size of your 
database is 2GB. Did you mean 2MB?

 

Peace,

Loren Johns
Guatemala City, Guatemala

  _  

"I will accept no bull from your house" (Ps. 50:9, RSV).

 

 

On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 03:30:18 PM EDT, Jerry Kime 
mailto:phanto...@centurylink.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Ian,

I have 312k people and the size of my data file is just over 1/2 gb.

Jerry


On 3/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a 
> NAS drive.
> I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the 
> main files, So no on the fly updates.
>
> I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have 
> less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.
> Something is skewey
>
> Ian
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup]

Ian, as a program based on Microsoft Access, the maximum possible size of your 
database is 2GB. Did you mean 2MB?
Peace,Loren Johns
Guatemala City, Guatemala
 "I will accept no bull from your house" (Ps. 50:9, RSV).
 

On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 03:30:18 PM EDT, Jerry Kime 
 wrote:  
 
 Ian,

I have 312k people and the size of my data file is just over 1/2 gb.

Jerry

On 3/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
> I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a 
> NAS drive.
> I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the 
> main files, So no on the fly updates.
>
> I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have 
> less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.
> Something is skewey
>
> Ian
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Bob Austen]

Hi Dennis and Gary,



What is your definition of ‘sync’?  Are you wanting to work on your tree (same 
file) from two computers? Or are you backing up to another location and wanting 
to keep that file updated?



I doubt that any of the family tree programs will the ability to work with one 
common file from two (or more) computers.  (That would be a multi-user program 
and, even then, the file would have to reside on one computer) So, you would 
have to have the same program on your secondary computer and simply copy the 
files to that computer.  You do not have to a backup/restore, you could copy 
the .fdb file (assuming changing only the data and not adding pictures). If you 
make any changes to the tree then you would have to copy the file back again to 
the main computer.  Many people do this using a USB drive. This is handy if you 
are going to another location and wanting to have your tree with you and make 
changes to the file.  On your return you would copy the file on to your home 
computer and continue to work on it from there.



If you want to ‘sync’ the file on your main computer to another (backup) file 
then there are many programs that can do that. But that is only a backup file.  
If you backed up your main file to your secondary computer then any changes 
made to that file on your secondary computer would not be reflected on your 
main computer and that file would be overwritten on the next backup.



If you are wanting the ability to work on one file from two computers that can 
be accomplished especially if the two computers are on the same network and 
both are on.  What I am saying is – it is possible to access the program (and 
files) on your desktop computer from your laptop in your home.  Then you are 
working with only one file – that on the desktop, and one computer at a time.  
But this is not giving you a backup.



I keep my computer backed up to two different external hard drives.  My Legacy 
file is also backed up to Dropbox and to Legacy backup.  I also routinely back 
up to a SD card and keep it in my safe. I do a quick copy of the .fdb file 
before a Compact File or Check/Repair. I am in the process of installing 
another internal drive on my desktop and I will either set it up as Raid 1 
(where the second drive is a clone of the first and all files are continuously 
updated) or I will use Acronis to do incremental backups of all files.  
Overkill? Maybe. But I have been doing this for 40 years and have never had a 
serious loss of data.



Bob





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Dennis Holtby
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 12:10 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing



That’s why I’m considering changing. I”ve never found an easy way to do it. 
I’ve always had to do a back-up/restore to move data between computers.



Dennis



On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gary Crull  wrote:

Hi everybody,



I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.



What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?



What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[David Cripps]

On 13-Mar-20 4:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
> 
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
> 
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
> 
> Gary
> 


I'm a bit late to the party Gary, but I do the following from Win10:

(1) I most gratefully use a blindingly fast backup App called Bvckup 2
Pro, and do a general backup of say Legacy and anything else from my
Primary HD to the secondary drive.

(2) Bvckup 2 Pro has an amazing feature where you can run a batch file
after the program has finished.  I use this feature to copy Legacy stuff
to two external drives, my Google Drive, and one USB 3.0 key.

Couldn't be happier to be honest.

Hope this helps others.

David Cripps



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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[irhocking]

Under file properties you will find your Family File Information:

 



 



 

If you use Dropbox, set your family file folder to save to your Dropbox folder 
– syncs every time as long as you only have Legacy open on one computer at a 
time.

 

I have been using this for years with no issues – all relevant files will be 
saved to this location.

 

Cheers,

 

Ian Hocking

 

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Hi everybody,

 

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

 

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?

 

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app? 

 

Gary 

 

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Jerry Kime]

Ian,

I have 312k people and the size of my data file is just over 1/2 gb.

Jerry

On 3/12/2020 12:03 PM, Ian Macaulay wrote:
I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a 
NAS drive.
I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the 
main files, So no on the fly updates.


I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have 
less than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.

Something is skewey

Ian




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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Jerry Kime]

Margaret,

On the second computer, copy the .fdb  into the data folder (it will 
overwrite the old one) and copy any updated media folders to the second 
computer also, and you in business and up to date on that computer.  
This also works in reverse ie:  updating computer 1 from cpmputer 2.  I 
will say that for this to work smoothly your paths to the files ( where 
the Legacy folders are located)  should be the same on both computers. 
If they are not, You will have to fiddle with the locations in the 
options  6.2  and possibly 6.1.


Jerry

On 3/12/2020 12:04 PM, Margaret Gagliardi wrote:

Jerry,
I also use a USB or External Hard Drive to backup - after backing up 
to my PC.  How do you update your 2nd PC?

Thanks
Margaret

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ward Walker <mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com>> wrote:


I also use a USB drive, except that my _live_ .fdb and media files
are on it. My backups go to the computer’s hard drive (and from
there automatically to the cloud using Carbonite).
  Ward
*From:* Jerry Kime
*Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:33 PM
*To:* legacy
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one
computer, I save the .fdb file and the media files to the external
and then update the other computer.

Jerry

On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:

Hi everybody,
I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer
and a SECONDARY computer?
What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
Gary



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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Robin McCarthy]

What are the file extensions that are involved? I mistakenly thought it was 
only the .fdb file when I changed computers and later learned there was also a 
hints database file that I needed. Are there more?

Robin

> On March 12, 2020 at 11:47 AM Ward Walker  wrote:
> 
> I also use a USB drive, except that my _live_ .fdb and media files are on 
> it. My backups go to the computer’s hard drive (and from there automatically 
> to the cloud using Carbonite).
>  
>   Ward
>  
> From: Jerry Kime
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:33 PM
>     To: legacy
>     Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing
>  
> 
> My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one computer, I 
> save the .fdb file and the media files to the external and then update the 
> other computer.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:
> 
> > > Hi everybody,
> >  
> > I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
> >  
> > What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and 
> > a SECONDARY computer?
> >  
> > What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
> >  
> > Gary
> > 
> > 
> > > 
>  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ward Walker]

I should clarify that in my case it is a thumb drive (16GB). I just carry it to 
the other computer. The only trick is organizing the drive letters so that 
everything can be found on either computer. I don’t ‘update’ the second 
computer, other than backups. This avoids any accidental confusion on where the 
latest changes were made. And, there is no such thing as trying to open the 
same file on two different computer.

   Ward

From: Margaret Gagliardi 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 3:04 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

Jerry,
I also use a USB or External Hard Drive to backup - after backing up to my PC.  
How do you update your 2nd PC?
Thanks 
Margaret

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ward Walker  wrote:

  I also use a USB drive, except that my _live_ .fdb and media files are on it. 
My backups go to the computer’s hard drive (and from there automatically to the 
cloud using Carbonite).

Ward

  From: Jerry Kime 
  Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:33 PM
  To: legacy 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

  My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one computer, I save 
the .fdb file and the media files to the external and then update the other 
computer.

  Jerry


  On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?


Gary


 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

Dennis, please, change if you are unhappy with Legacy, but don’t waste your 
time or ours by repeatedly telling us you are going to change.  Your 
complaining has NOTHING to do with the original question.

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On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:09 PM, Dennis Holtby  wrote:

> That’s why I’m considering changing. I”ve never found an easy way to do it. 
> I’ve always had to do a back-up/restore to move data between computers.
>
> Dennis
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gary Crull  wrote:
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>>
>> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>>
>> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
>> SECONDARY computer?
>>
>> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Jerry Kime]

I might also mention that I have 3 different Android devices that I sync 
to using the app Families.


Jerry

On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?


What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Dennis Holtby]

That’s why I’m considering changing. I”ve never found an easy way to do it.
I’ve always had to do a back-up/restore to move data between computers.

Dennis

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gary Crull 
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
>
> Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Margaret Gagliardi]

Jerry,
I also use a USB or External Hard Drive to backup - after backing up to my
PC.  How do you update your 2nd PC?
Thanks
Margaret

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:48 PM Ward Walker  wrote:

> I also use a USB drive, except that my _live_ .fdb and media files are on
> it. My backups go to the computer’s hard drive (and from there
> automatically to the cloud using Carbonite).
>
>   Ward
>
> *From:* Jerry Kime
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:33 PM
> *To:* legacy
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing
>
>
> My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one computer, I
> save the .fdb file and the media files to the external and then update the
> other computer.
>
> Jerry
> On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
> Gary
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ian Macaulay]

I never do that.  I take a backup daily of my files and they go on a NAS
drive.
I keep a dummy copy for show and tells, but never connect them to the main
files, So no on the fly updates.

I also do not understand how 700K names can result in 1 GB.  I have less
than 100K folks and run at well over 7GB of data.
Something is skewey

Ian


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:17 PM Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> I have spent thousands of hours (not sure I would want to know exactly how
> many!) working on my database. I now have over 713,000 individuals in my
> database, which is over 1GB in size. Frankly, I don't want to lose all that
> time and work! So I use a cloud backup service (BackBlaze) as a backup.
> Also, every time I make a change in my database, I compact the file and
> then back it up to a flash drive and also an external hard drive, using
> Allway Sync. It is very easy to use. I just tell it to compare the relevant
> folders on my SSD drive and my other drive and copy the files with the most
> recent dates to the other drive. Just to be safe, I also do the same with
> my Google Drive File Stream, so that my most recent Legacy database is
> always in the cloud in two different forms, on my local SSD "hard" drive,
> and also on two separate external drives, one hard drive and one flash
> drive.
>
> I have a second laptop that I occasionally use. Whenever I want to
> transfer my database to the other laptop, I use Allway Sync to do it. It
> usually takes a minute or two to do the transfer. I already have the most
> recent form of the database on one of my backup drives, so I just attach
> one of those to the secondary computer, run Allway Sync, and then I am up
> and ready to go.
>
> Peace,
> Loren Johns
> Guatemala City, Guatemala
> --
> "I will accept no bull from your house" (Ps. 50:9, RSV).
>
>
> On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 01:57:52 PM EDT, Gary Crull <
> treeclimber1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
> Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ward Walker]

I also use a USB drive, except that my _live_ .fdb and media files are on it. 
My backups go to the computer’s hard drive (and from there automatically to the 
cloud using Carbonite).

  Ward

From: Jerry Kime 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:33 PM
To: legacy 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one computer, I save 
the .fdb file and the media files to the external and then update the other 
computer.

Jerry


On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:

  Hi everybody,

  I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

  What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?

  What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?


  Gary


   



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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[irhocking]

I have legacy following files on drop box folder: fsd, ged, fg, kil, tc and 
media folder

 

Cheers,

 

Ian hocking

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Gary Crull
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 6:57 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

 

Hi everybody,

 

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

 

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?

 

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Jerry Kime]

My app is an external USB hard drive.  After working on one computer, I 
save the .fdb file and the media files to the external and then update 
the other computer.


Jerry

On 3/12/2020 10:56 AM, Gary Crull wrote:

Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
SECONDARY computer?


What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary

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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Dennis Holtby]

Right now, I’m considering a product called ‘Ancestral Quest’.  Their file
structure is far less complex.

Dennis

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gary Crull 
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>
> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
> SECONDARY computer?
>
> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>
>
> Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup]

I have spent thousands of hours (not sure I would want to know exactly how 
many!) working on my database. I now have over 713,000 individuals in my 
database, which is over 1GB in size. Frankly, I don't want to lose all that 
time and work! So I use a cloud backup service (BackBlaze) as a backup. Also, 
every time I make a change in my database, I compact the file and then back it 
up to a flash drive and also an external hard drive, using Allway Sync. It is 
very easy to use. I just tell it to compare the relevant folders on my SSD 
drive and my other drive and copy the files with the most recent dates to the 
other drive. Just to be safe, I also do the same with my Google Drive File 
Stream, so that my most recent Legacy database is always in the cloud in two 
different forms, on my local SSD "hard" drive, and also on two separate 
external drives, one hard drive and one flash drive.
I have a second laptop that I occasionally use. Whenever I want to transfer my 
database to the other laptop, I use Allway Sync to do it. It usually takes a 
minute or two to do the transfer. I already have the most recent form of the 
database on one of my backup drives, so I just attach one of those to the 
secondary computer, run Allway Sync, and then I am up and ready to go.
Peace, Loren Johns
Guatemala City, Guatemala
 "I will accept no bull from your house" (Ps. 50:9, RSV).
 

On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 01:57:52 PM EDT, Gary Crull 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi everybody,
I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a SECONDARY 
computer?
What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Dennis Holtby]

Your ‘survey’ comes at an interesting time since I am currently considering
abandoning Lecacy (after many years) because of the difficulty of
accomplishing this sync.

Dennis.

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> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
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> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
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[LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Gary Crull]

Hi everybody,

I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.

What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a
SECONDARY computer?

What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?

Gary
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