Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-16 Thread Jim Hanak
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:46:04 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Rick,

My W2K CD is a stock original.  I dl'd w2k sp2 from ms, and unpacked
it to a dir that I then burned to a cd.  No change in the results.  I tried
copying my nt5inf.cat from my desktop to a floppy and a cd, tried both when
the setup routine asked for it with no luck.

So I did the obvious(non-obvious?) thing and just started from
scratch, re-formatting and installing using the bootdisk method.  Guess
what?  Complete success!!!  I'm sufing the net wirelessly and writing this
in Outlook on the 110ct!!  C'est la vie!  Thanks for all your help and
handholding folks, especially Rick.

Cheers,
Jim !

Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:41:55 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Hmm. Sounds like your Win2k install CD had SP2 incompletely
slipstreamed. Is it a stock CD, or one built from a downloaded image?
If you use a multiboot image, for instance, you must put the files in
the root/i386 directory and make a new CD.

One thing you could try, obviously, is downloading SP2 and unpacking
it to a CD. But I probably didn't need to tell you that :)





Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Hanak
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:25:59 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Wow!! Thanks, Rick!

  I had completely forgot about the boot disk method.  I guess we've been
spoiled by CD's and DVD's.  I guess if I had remembered it, I would be
showing my age(My first PC was a TI 99/4a  ---  when they were new!).
Anyway, it's about 70% of the way through the install and the CD-ROM is
humming away nicely.  

Thanks,

Jim !

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:41:59 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I installed a completely fresh copy of Win2k with NTFS pretty easily.
All I did was use a different PC to generate the floppy disks for the
Win2k installer (the utility was in the /boot disk directory on the
CD). I plugged in the CD drive and the floppy drive simultaneously,
booted from the floppies, and Win2k setup understood the CD drive by
itself. As long as your PCMCIA CD drive's drivers are either built-in
to Win2k (as mine are) or have a Win2k setup driver, it should be
easy.

I *believe* that the drive I used was the one that was shipped with
the 110ct as the CD drive option.





Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Hanak
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:25:59 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Wow!! Thanks, Rick!

  I had completely forgot about the boot disk method.  I guess we've been
spoiled by CD's and DVD's.  I guess if I had remembered it, I would be
showing my age(My first PC was a TI 99/4a  ---  when they were new!).
Anyway, it's about 70% of the way through the install and the CD-ROM is
humming away nicely.  

Thanks,

Jim !

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:41:59 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I installed a completely fresh copy of Win2k with NTFS pretty easily.
All I did was use a different PC to generate the floppy disks for the
Win2k installer (the utility was in the /boot disk directory on the
CD). I plugged in the CD drive and the floppy drive simultaneously,
booted from the floppies, and Win2k setup understood the CD drive by
itself. As long as your PCMCIA CD drive's drivers are either built-in
to Win2k (as mine are) or have a Win2k setup driver, it should be
easy.

I *believe* that the drive I used was the one that was shipped with
the 110ct as the CD drive option.





Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Hanak
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:25:59 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Wow!! Thanks, Rick!

  I had completely forgot about the boot disk method.  I guess we've been
spoiled by CD's and DVD's.  I guess if I had remembered it, I would be
showing my age(My first PC was a TI 99/4a  ---  when they were new!).
Anyway, it's about 70% of the way through the install and the CD-ROM is
humming away nicely.  

Thanks,

Jim !

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:41:59 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I installed a completely fresh copy of Win2k with NTFS pretty easily.
All I did was use a different PC to generate the floppy disks for the
Win2k installer (the utility was in the /boot disk directory on the
CD). I plugged in the CD drive and the floppy drive simultaneously,
booted from the floppies, and Win2k setup understood the CD drive by
itself. As long as your PCMCIA CD drive's drivers are either built-in
to Win2k (as mine are) or have a Win2k setup driver, it should be
easy.

I *believe* that the drive I used was the one that was shipped with
the 110ct as the CD drive option.





Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-15 Thread Jim Hanak
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:06:55 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Rick,

Whoops!  I spoke too soon!

I'm coming across an apparently common problem.  When it needs
NT5INF.CAT on Service Pack 2 CD, it won't read from the regular install
CD, even though the file is there.  I have tried extracting the file to a
floppy, with no change in the results.  MS knowledge base article KB228852
basically says replace the unit with one that is listed on the Windows 2000
Hardware Compatibility List.  And of course neither my EXP Computer Inc.
CD-Traveler+ nor my NEC OP-260-72501 are listed.  Damn!  

Any ideas?

-Original Message-
From: Jim Hanak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:26 PM
To: 'Libretto'
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?


Wow!! Thanks, Rick!

  I had completely forgot about the boot disk method.  I guess we've been
spoiled by CD's and DVD's.  I guess if I had remembered it, I would be
showing my age(My first PC was a TI 99/4a  ---  when they were new!).
Anyway, it's about 70% of the way through the install and the CD-ROM is
humming away nicely.  

Thanks,

Jim !





Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-15 Thread Rick Mansfield
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:41:55 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Hmm. Sounds like your Win2k install CD had SP2 incompletely
slipstreamed. Is it a stock CD, or one built from a downloaded image?
If you use a multiboot image, for instance, you must put the files in
the root/i386 directory and make a new CD.

One thing you could try, obviously, is downloading SP2 and unpacking
it to a CD. But I probably didn't need to tell you that :)

On 8/15/05, Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:06:55 -0500
 From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
 Rick,
 
 Whoops!  I spoke too soon!
 
I'm coming across an apparently common problem.  When it needs
 NT5INF.CAT on Service Pack 2 CD, it won't read from the regular install
 CD, even though the file is there.  I have tried extracting the file to a
 floppy, with no change in the results.  MS knowledge base article KB228852
 basically says replace the unit with one that is listed on the Windows 2000
 Hardware Compatibility List.  And of course neither my EXP Computer Inc.
 CD-Traveler+ nor my NEC OP-260-72501 are listed.  Damn!
 
 Any ideas?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Hanak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:26 PM
 To: 'Libretto'
 Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
 
 Wow!! Thanks, Rick!
 
  I had completely forgot about the boot disk method.  I guess we've been
 spoiled by CD's and DVD's.  I guess if I had remembered it, I would be
 showing my age(My first PC was a TI 99/4a  ---  when they were new!).
 Anyway, it's about 70% of the way through the install and the CD-ROM is
 humming away nicely.
 
 Thanks,
 
Jim !
 
 
 
 


-- 
-Rick




Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-10 Thread Rick Mansfield
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:41:59 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I installed a completely fresh copy of Win2k with NTFS pretty easily.
All I did was use a different PC to generate the floppy disks for the
Win2k installer (the utility was in the /bootdisk directory on the
CD). I plugged in the CD drive and the floppy drive simultaneously,
booted from the floppies, and Win2k setup understood the CD drive by
itself. As long as your PCMCIA CD drive's drivers are either built-in
to Win2k (as mine are) or have a Win2k setup driver, it should be
easy.

I *believe* that the drive I used was the one that was shipped with
the 110ct as the CD drive option.

On 8/10/05, Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:45 -0500
 From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
 Folks,
 
 OK, sorry for not responding earlier as I have been out of town.  Also sorry
 for not being more specific with my info.
 
 Here's the situation.  I have a 110ct, stock hd(bare, except that I have
 installed MS-DOS 6.22 on it), standard PA2940U floppy drive that works fine,
 an NEC OP-260-72501 external PCMCIA CD-Rom.  I also have both the port
 replicator  the docking station.
 
 When I have the floppy and cd connected(floppy on top, cd on bottom), the cd
 spins up and then quits.  The drivers that came with the cd say I need to
 have card and socket services installed first.  How do I get that?  I do
 have Win 3.1 on floppy I can install if I have to, but I would rather have a
 pristine install of W2K.  That's my goal.  I would rather not do any
 surgery, if I can avoid it.
 
 I have searched the archives for card  socket, and haven't found anything
 useful.  Can anyone help?
 
 Thanks,
Jim !
 
 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:22:41 +0200
 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
 Jim Hanak wrote:
  Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
  From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
  This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to
  where this is?
 
 Sure.
 You might try Google, or seek the Libretto searchable archives first:
 http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/
 
  I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?
 
 *What* would you like to install?
 - Win98?
 - Win2K?
 - Linux?
 - .?
 
 Philip
 
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Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-10 Thread Christopher Kalos

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:47:35 -0400
From: Christopher Kalos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Okay, here's what I vaguely remember about this, and it's way easier 
when you have the right tools.


1) Ditch the CD-ROM as far as the installer's concerned.  That's merely 
a method by which you can get the Win2K installer on the hard drive.


2) Using a partition editor, such as FIPS, you should be able to cut 
the drive into two partitions.I went with a 3g/1g split.


3) Get any other OS going on this system, as long as it can use that 
CD-ROM drive, even 98 from floppies, if you're brave.


4) Copy the entire Win2K CD to the 1gig partition.

5) Create (or obtain) a Win2K install floppy.  This will boot and ask 
you for an installer location.  Point it to the D: drive, format C: as 
FAT and install to it, and you should be good to go.


One caveat:  you MUST format C: as FAT, no matter how badly you want 
NTFS.  Once you finish this up, you can clear our the D: drive of the 
install image, delete that partition, and extend a FAT partition with 
far less trouble than extending an NTFS partition.  End result?  Win 
2000 using up one 4.3 GB FAT partition, ready for you to convert to 
NTFS.


(Of course, NTFS is far more annoying to recover data from if the drive 
ever dies, so be careful.)


You still get your pristine install, and no one will ever be the wiser. 
 Fair warning, though, it takes an ungodly amount of fat trimming to 
make Win2K run comfortably on the Libretto, even with the RAM upgrade.


CK

On Aug 10, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Jim Hanak wrote:


Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Folks,

OK, sorry for not responding earlier as I have been out of town.  Also 
sorry

for not being more specific with my info.

Here's the situation.  I have a 110ct, stock hd(bare, except that I 
have
installed MS-DOS 6.22 on it), standard PA2940U floppy drive that works 
fine,

an NEC OP-260-72501 external PCMCIA CD-Rom.  I also have both the port
replicator  the docking station.

When I have the floppy and cd connected(floppy on top, cd on bottom), 
the cd
spins up and then quits.  The drivers that came with the cd say I need 
to
have card and socket services installed first.  How do I get that?  I 
do
have Win 3.1 on floppy I can install if I have to, but I would rather 
have a

pristine install of W2K.  That's my goal.  I would rather not do any
surgery, if I can avoid it.

I have searched the archives for card  socket, and haven't found 
anything

useful.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Jim !

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:22:41 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Jim Hanak wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to
where this is?


Sure.
You might try Google, or seek the Libretto searchable archives first:
http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/


I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?


*What* would you like to install?
- Win98?
- Win2K?
- Linux?
- .?

Philip

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Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-10 Thread Rick Mansfield
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:59:32 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I really don't see why all that work is necessary, seeing as I was
able to just install cleanly with no partition meddling, no installing
other OSs, etc. Unless of course the CD drive turns out to be a big
problem. (ie you don't have one, or Win2k doesn't support it natively
and there's no installer driver)

On 8/10/05, Christopher Kalos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:47:35 -0400
 From: Christopher Kalos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
 Okay, here's what I vaguely remember about this, and it's way easier
 when you have the right tools.
 
 1) Ditch the CD-ROM as far as the installer's concerned.  That's merely
 a method by which you can get the Win2K installer on the hard drive.
 
 2) Using a partition editor, such as FIPS, you should be able to cut
 the drive into two partitions.I went with a 3g/1g split.
 
 3) Get any other OS going on this system, as long as it can use that
 CD-ROM drive, even 98 from floppies, if you're brave.
 
 4) Copy the entire Win2K CD to the 1gig partition.
 
 5) Create (or obtain) a Win2K install floppy.  This will boot and ask
 you for an installer location.  Point it to the D: drive, format C: as
 FAT and install to it, and you should be good to go.
 
 One caveat:  you MUST format C: as FAT, no matter how badly you want
 NTFS.  Once you finish this up, you can clear our the D: drive of the
 install image, delete that partition, and extend a FAT partition with
 far less trouble than extending an NTFS partition.  End result?  Win
 2000 using up one 4.3 GB FAT partition, ready for you to convert to
 NTFS.
 
 (Of course, NTFS is far more annoying to recover data from if the drive
 ever dies, so be careful.)
 
 You still get your pristine install, and no one will ever be the wiser.
  Fair warning, though, it takes an ungodly amount of fat trimming to
 make Win2K run comfortably on the Libretto, even with the RAM upgrade.
 
 CK
 
 On Aug 10, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Jim Hanak wrote:
 
  Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:45 -0500
  From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
  Folks,
 
  OK, sorry for not responding earlier as I have been out of town.  Also
  sorry
  for not being more specific with my info.
 
  Here's the situation.  I have a 110ct, stock hd(bare, except that I
  have
  installed MS-DOS 6.22 on it), standard PA2940U floppy drive that works
  fine,
  an NEC OP-260-72501 external PCMCIA CD-Rom.  I also have both the port
  replicator  the docking station.
 
  When I have the floppy and cd connected(floppy on top, cd on bottom),
  the cd
  spins up and then quits.  The drivers that came with the cd say I need
  to
  have card and socket services installed first.  How do I get that?  I
  do
  have Win 3.1 on floppy I can install if I have to, but I would rather
  have a
  pristine install of W2K.  That's my goal.  I would rather not do any
  surgery, if I can avoid it.
 
  I have searched the archives for card  socket, and haven't found
  anything
  useful.  Can anyone help?
 
  Thanks,
  Jim !
 
  Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:22:41 +0200
  From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
  Jim Hanak wrote:
  Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
  From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?
 
  This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to
  where this is?
 
  Sure.
  You might try Google, or seek the Libretto searchable archives first:
  http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/
 
  I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?
 
  *What* would you like to install?
  - Win98?
  - Win2K?
  - Linux?
  - .?
 
  Philip
 
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Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-10 Thread Christopher Kalos

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:16:01 -0400
From: Christopher Kalos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

 Unless of course the CD drive turns out to be a big problem.

Got it in one.  I make no assumptions that the CD-ROM's going to work 
properly, and merely provided the surgery-free alternative to ripping 
the drive out and doing most of the work from a desktop.


CK


On Aug 10, 2005, at 1:00 PM, Rick Mansfield wrote:


Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:59:32 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I really don't see why all that work is necessary, seeing as I was
able to just install cleanly with no partition meddling, no installing
other OSs, etc. Unless of course the CD drive turns out to be a big
problem. (ie you don't have one, or Win2k doesn't support it natively
and there's no installer driver)

On 8/10/05, Christopher Kalos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:47:35 -0400
From: Christopher Kalos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Okay, here's what I vaguely remember about this, and it's way easier
when you have the right tools.

1) Ditch the CD-ROM as far as the installer's concerned.  That's 
merely

a method by which you can get the Win2K installer on the hard drive.

2) Using a partition editor, such as FIPS, you should be able to cut
the drive into two partitions.I went with a 3g/1g split.

3) Get any other OS going on this system, as long as it can use that
CD-ROM drive, even 98 from floppies, if you're brave.

4) Copy the entire Win2K CD to the 1gig partition.

5) Create (or obtain) a Win2K install floppy.  This will boot and ask
you for an installer location.  Point it to the D: drive, format C: as
FAT and install to it, and you should be good to go.

One caveat:  you MUST format C: as FAT, no matter how badly you want
NTFS.  Once you finish this up, you can clear our the D: drive of the
install image, delete that partition, and extend a FAT partition with
far less trouble than extending an NTFS partition.  End result?  Win
2000 using up one 4.3 GB FAT partition, ready for you to convert to
NTFS.

(Of course, NTFS is far more annoying to recover data from if the 
drive

ever dies, so be careful.)

You still get your pristine install, and no one will ever be the 
wiser.

 Fair warning, though, it takes an ungodly amount of fat trimming to
make Win2K run comfortably on the Libretto, even with the RAM upgrade.

CK

On Aug 10, 2005, at 12:34 PM, Jim Hanak wrote:


Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Folks,

OK, sorry for not responding earlier as I have been out of town.  
Also

sorry
for not being more specific with my info.

Here's the situation.  I have a 110ct, stock hd(bare, except that I
have
installed MS-DOS 6.22 on it), standard PA2940U floppy drive that 
works

fine,
an NEC OP-260-72501 external PCMCIA CD-Rom.  I also have both the 
port

replicator  the docking station.

When I have the floppy and cd connected(floppy on top, cd on bottom),
the cd
spins up and then quits.  The drivers that came with the cd say I 
need

to
have card and socket services installed first.  How do I get that?  I
do
have Win 3.1 on floppy I can install if I have to, but I would rather
have a
pristine install of W2K.  That's my goal.  I would rather not do any
surgery, if I can avoid it.

I have searched the archives for card  socket, and haven't found
anything
useful.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Jim !

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:22:41 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Jim Hanak wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to
where this is?


Sure.
You might try Google, or seek the Libretto searchable archives first:
http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/


I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?


*What* would you like to install?
- Win98?
- Win2K?
- Linux?
- .?

Philip

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Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-08-10 Thread Philip Nienhuis

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:57:15 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Rick Mansfield wrote:


Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:41:59 -0400
From: Rick Mansfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

I installed a completely fresh copy of Win2k with NTFS pretty easily.
All I did was use a different PC to generate the floppy disks for the
Win2k installer (the utility was in the /bootdisk directory on the
CD). I plugged in the CD drive and the floppy drive simultaneously,
booted from the floppies, and Win2k setup understood the CD drive by
itself. As long as your PCMCIA CD drive's drivers are either built-in
to Win2k (as mine are) or have a Win2k setup driver, it should be
easy.

snipped

AFAIK Win2K supports most PCMCIA or Cardbus CD-ROMS more or less 
natively. An older Argosy CD-ROM player was recognized and installed 
immediately w/o driver disks etc.
I got two Freecom CD-ROM/RW devices here (one PCMCIA, one Cardbus) and 
the Freecom brand happens to be one of the exceptions.
But... the original Lib110 restore stuff I have utilized a floppy with 
-guess what- a DOS driver for a Freecom CD-player (FCPOINT.SYS) (a 
so-called point enabler - no card services or whatever needed).


BTW for taming down Win2K a little have a look at 
www.vorck.com/remove-ie.html

  and
http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/disabledllcache.htm
http://www.beemerworld.com/tips/servicesxp.htm (OK, for XP but 
translation to W2K is easily done)
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/07/running-windows-with-no-services.html 
(ditto)


One of the Win2Ks on my Lib110 (per Vorck's dec '04 .inf-file set) has a 
mere 76 MB memory footprint, incl. 15 MB for ZoneAlarm  AVG antivirus. 
Just after installation it used to be something like 45 MB
Booting up fully (i.e., HD stops rattling) takes just 1 min 30 sec, 
shutdown about 15 seconds.


P.





Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-07-27 Thread Tony Oresteen

Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:48:51 -0400
From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Jim,

For larger than 8 gig drive see:

http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2005/msg00185.html


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To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:03 AM
Subject: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?



Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to where
this is?

I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?

Thanks!

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[LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-07-26 Thread Jim Hanak
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to where
this is?

I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?

Thanks!

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Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-07-26 Thread Philip Nienhuis

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:22:41 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Jim Hanak wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to where
this is?


Sure.
You might try Google, or seek the Libretto searchable archives first:
http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/


I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?


*What* would you like to install?
- Win98?
- Win2K?
- Linux?
- .?

Philip




Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-07-26 Thread David Chien
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:37:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

1. Using boot floppy disk (DOS, Linux, etc), fdisk  format the HD.  For most
OSs, make it primary, bootable, active for the partition you want the OS to be
installed into.

2. Transfer OS to the HD any way possible - Ethernet card, serial/parallel
laplinki/dcc compatible cable from a desktop, copied over many floppy disks,
dos cd-rom drivers from a cd-rom drive, etc.

3. run the OS setup program to install the OS, then copy/download the Toshiba
drivers.

Simple as that.

Otherwise, faster method to get an OS to the HD is to fdisk and format the HD,
pull the HD, attach to 2.5 to 3.5 IDE converter ($10 or so), attach to
desktop PC, copy the OS to the HD, reinstall HD into the Libretto, run OS setup
program.

You can also do a floppy disk remote install of Linux if installing that over
ethernet.



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Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

2005-07-26 Thread Tony Oresteen

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:48:30 -0400
From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

What size is the drive?  If it is greater than 8 gigs you will have to make 
a special partition for the hibernate area.  Search the archives as I posted 
very detailed info on how to do this last year.


Tony


- Original Message - 
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?



Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:22:41 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

Jim Hanak wrote:

Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:54:45 -0500
From: Jim Hanak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to install to Lib 110ct with a bare HD?

This has probably been covered before, but can someone point me to where
this is?


Sure.
You might try Google, or seek the Libretto searchable archives first:
http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/


I have working PCMCIA floppy and CD-rom drives.  Any advice?


*What* would you like to install?
- Win98?
- Win2K?
- Linux?
- .?

Philip