Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 04:44:41 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Libretto will write hibernation data onto a hard drive. It seems you have determined that it should be possible for Win2K to override the 100/110 Libby's native BIOS/CMOS calls, and have the system write hibernation data to the end of the HDD. If that's true, I'd still like to see you perform a test as David i have under xp, 2000, linux 2.4 and 2.6 Huh... interesting. I'll have to give the test a go when I can find a replacement for the 110 MB that I found floating belly-up in the Libretto bowl a few weeks back. Could you elaborate on the specifics of the tests you ran? What the process was, and what the results were. I'm really curious about all this. But I can tell you with 100% certainty that if we're talking about Windows 98(SE) on a Libretto, it's always going to hibernate at the 8GB boundry on a HDD. Unlike yourself from what I've gathered from that is because, like I posted, that me, 98, 95, 3.1 and dos only see 8 gig. By that, I assume you're saying that you don't have a copy of Windows 98SE... yes? W98SE manages to see beyond 8GB, though I'll be darned if I can get any installation of it not to develop file errors somewhere along the way without drive overlay installed. I know you and Philip have managed well without it. But I hammered at it for a good couple of months, and never found any way to resolve W98SE complaining about corrupted files without DO installed. The problem may be due to the fact that much of the data on this drive has been passed down many, many generations of HDDs I've had in my Libbys. Now again, I see the potential for your argument that Win2K may override the Libby BIOS/CMOS calls. But I've read no reports of anyone having successfully tested the theory. every time I hibernate!! By that, are you saying that tests that you have been doing have just involved hibernating, waking up from hibernation, and then not see any problems develop with the OS as a result? If that's what you've been using as evidence to support your theory that W2K WXP are writing the hibernation to the end of the 8GB HDDs, it is an indication, but it's not fully convincing evidence. The test the rest of us have run has been this: * Open Notepad. Write a few words. While Notepad is open, hibernate. * Recover from the hibernated state. * Open WinHex or some other hex editor, and do a search of the entire drive space for the text you had written in Notepad. * Note which cylinders and/or sectors where the text was located, and calculate where on the HDD the data was found. With WinHex, it's easy enough to see approximately where the location of the data is with relation to the beginning and end of the drive. The slider on the right edge of the hex data window corresponds to the position of the data being displayed relative to the beginning and end of the drive. If it's at the end of the drive when you find the text you search for, your argument that W2K's BIOS/CMOS calls supercede the Libby's will be undeniably confirmed. And at that point the rest of us here on the list will be able to be more confident when advising newcomers with questions about all this. oh I'm not that bad. I just grew up in the 'if it was like that in the past its like that now era' and all that attitude does is annoy and irritate me. Things change almost daily and people always need to update their knowledge accordingly otherwise it puts out the idea that computer scientists and engineers are liars when they aren't -- they just are not up with the technology they are dealing with. You're definitely right that the technology changes faster than most of us can keep up with it all. And I have to say that I was skeptical about what you were describing about W2K hibernation. But when you suggested that W2K may override the Libby's BIOS calls, it made me reconsider things. Until I see proper test results though, Ill reserve my opinions on all this. Id love to run the W2K/hibernations test I described above this myself right now though... Anyone have a 110 motherboard they might want to sell? :-D Matt Libretto list info: Libretto list archive #1: http://www.technoir.nu/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi Libretto list archive #2: http://www.mail-archive.com/libretto@basiclink.com/ To unsubscribe: http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/2004/msg01419.html
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install an ever better test to to write data to the sectors and have the libby hibernate. surprize surprize, its not being over written!! my my where ever could the bios be writing hmmm? --- Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:02:21 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Well John, I guess you have a different BIOS than I do. Just do a simple test. If you have a disk drive larger that 8 gigs scan you sectors to find where the L100C is putting the hibernation file. The OS doesn't have anything to do with where the L100C BIOS is putting the copy of memory. It doesn't mater if youhave Win98, Win95, Win2K, XP, Linux installesd the Libby BIOS puts its hibernation file in the same palce on the hard drive and it DOES NOT recognize any drive larger than 8 gb. Now where did I say the BIOS somehow magically works when there isn't any battery power to even spin the hd!! ? You are the one who is saying silly things. Tony Oresteen Montverde, FL - Original Message - From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Dear Tony Yes it does work that way IF you use EZ whatever you use. Now why would you want to set up your computer like that when you don't have to? It just makes it way harder to setup for you poor silly things that believe the bios somehow magically works when there isn't any battery power to even spin the hd!! Like I mentioned in the last email, if the bios can write to the hd the operating system is in control anyway and it writes to the END of the drive not the middle. fi john --- Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:37:41 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install John Musielewicz, The hibernation space is correct as J. Liu has it. The BIOS puts it at the end of the hard drive up to 8 gb. Drives that are larger that 8 GB the Libby BIOS still puts it at the 8 gb boundary. What I do is first partition the drive in the L100CT. It will see the drives as an 8 gig drive (even though it's a 30). I then put the drive into a desktop computer and make the 100mb hibernation partition and the balance my data partition. Then with EZ BIOS loaded the OS can see the entire drive. EZ BIOS will NOT fix the BIOS issue of putting the hibernation file at the 8 gig boundary. Tony Oresteen Montverde, FL - Original Message - From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install first off you have your hibernation free space in the wrong place it should be at the end of the drive and you need approximately 100MB of space. Next you need to fix the mbr of the drive so windows will boot. john --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:50:55 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Remember, the Libretto 100/110 laptops have TWO modes of hibernation. The first is the operating system specific hibernation - Windows 2000 for instance hibernates into c:\hiberfil.sys by default. In such a case, yes you are correct, there is no overwriting sectors around the 8GB boundary as Windows 2000 (and in fact you don't need to leave any space in any particular location on the drive as long as the file exists in C and is taking up that space). Unfortunately, being a somewhat older machine, the Libretto 100/110 on occasions will perform an old style BIOS hibernation, which writes at the 1010-1040 cylinder area (actually somewhat inside that area, can't remember the exact figures). Situations where it will do so include, if the processor begins to overheat or if the battery starts to die (and for whatever reason the operating system doesn't intercept this and do something about it first). In fact, if the laptop is in suspend and the battery falls below a certain BIOS-encoded threshold, it will come back to life (but not to the point of restarting the OS), perform a BIOS hibernation then turn itself off. The Libretto BIOS doesn't bother notifying the operating system in such cases (or if it does, never gives the operating system a chance to respond), it just performs the hibernation. Note that these situations are very rare, especially if you use your Libretto carefully, which is why some people have been able to get away without worrying about this but there is a non-zero chance of it happening. People on this list (and one person I know off the list) have in the past tried doing things like zeroing out all the sectors around the 8GB mark or putting partitions there and filling them with known data then performing a BIOS hibernation. Those sectors do get overwritten when the laptop hibernates (in fact that's how the exact sectors were determined - someone zero'd out a large area around the 8GB mark, hibernated then looked for where the run of zeros got overwritten). I can see you're not an easy man to convince, the only thing I can say with respect to that is to perform the test yourself. If you already have Win2k installed though I'm not sure how you'd force a BIOS hibernation ... perhaps turning off all Win2k power management and running down the battery might be the easiest way (but then I think the BIOS suspend kicks in first so you've got to wait for the laptop to drop battery a bit more, come out of BIOS suspend, then do its BIOS hibernation). I haven't looked too far back in the archives but in the recent past (back to around 2002), here are a few posts on the topic: http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg02785.html http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg01583.html http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg00781.html http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg00476.html - Raymond Quoting John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install an ever better test to to write data to the sectors and have the libby hibernate. surprize surprize, its not being over written!! my my where ever could the bios be writing hmmm? snip
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:29:28 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install see below --- Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:50:55 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Remember, the Libretto 100/110 laptops have TWO modes of hibernation. The first is the operating system specific hibernation - Windows 2000 for instance hibernates into c:\hiberfil.sys by default. In such yes win2000 and xp use this method a case, yes you are correct, there is no overwriting sectors around the 8GB boundary as Windows 2000 (and in fact you don't need to leave any space in any particular location on the drive as long as the file exists in C and is taking up that space). Unfortunately, being a somewhat older machine, the Libretto 100/110 on occasions will perform an old style BIOS hibernation, which writes at the 1010-1040 cylinder area (actually somewhat inside that area, can't remember the exact figures). Situations where it will do so include, if the processor begins to overheat or if the battery starts to die (and for whatever reason the operating system doesn't intercept this and do something about it first). In fact, if the laptop is in suspend and the battery falls below a certain BIOS-encoded threshold, it will come back to life (but not to the point of restarting the OS), perform a BIOS hibernation then turn itself off. The Libretto BIOS doesn't bother notifying the operating system in such cases (or if it does, never gives the operating system a chance to respond), it just performs the hibernation. keerect except that it writes at the end of the drive. has done it for me on both a 15 gig ibm and 60 gig toshiba every time it has hibernated. Note that these situations are very rare, especially if you use your Libretto carefully, which is why some people have been able to get away without worrying about this but there is a non-zero chance of it happening. why? People on this list (and one person I know off the list) have in the past tried doing things like zeroing out all the sectors around the 8GB mark or putting partitions there and filling them with known data then performing a BIOS hibernation. Those sectors do get overwritten when the laptop hibernates (in fact that's how the exact sectors were determined - someone zero'd out a large area around the 8GB mark, hibernated then looked for where the run of zeros got overwritten). must have been running dos I can see you're not an easy man to convince, the the only reason I am is this--even if the bios is hard coded to do it there is a small segment of bios memory for extra extensions -- this memory is availible after each boot and cleaned at shutdown--now that is where it is stored so you see it doesn't matter what the orginal bios sees since the proper code is written there the bios will use it each time it hibernates just like it WAS hard coded :)0 he.. he.. Waste of time using boot sectors plus they get messed up which HAS HAPPENED TO ME USING THAT EZBIOS CRAP. Advising people to use it IS GOING TO END UP TRASHING THE DRIVE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE CORRECT PLACE TO INSTALL THAT CODE!! THAT AREA IS NOT FOR THAT IT IS FOR BOOTING!! john only thing I can say with respect to that is to perform the test yourself. If you already have Win2k installed though I'm not sure how you'd force a BIOS hibernation ... perhaps turning off all Win2k power management and running down the battery might be the easiest way (but then I think the BIOS suspend kicks in first so you've got to wait for the laptop to drop battery a bit more, come out of BIOS suspend, then do its BIOS hibernation). I haven't looked too far back in the archives but in the recent past (back to around 2002), here are a few posts on the topic: http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg02785.html http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg01583.html http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg00781.html http://www.technoir.org/libretto/list/2002/msg00476.html - Raymond Quoting John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:01:26 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install an ever better test to to write data to the sectors and have the libby hibernate. surprize surprize, its not being over written!! my my where ever could the bios be writing hmmm? snip __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:43:47 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install All I can say is you have presented your case, we have presented ours, the readers can make up their own mind. I can see you're getting quite worked up about this so I think I'll stop there. - Raymond At 08:30 AM 30/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 08:29:28 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install see below snip --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install --- Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you *SURE* your C drive is actually C drive? (I've never had this happen when ghosting but when doing other things, I've had drive IDs stuff up and end up with an E and F drive but no C and D drive and weird things happen). I've seen that a lot myself after hooking up a few different hard drives and memory card readers to my desktop running XP for various reasons. Haven't seen C: affected... tho' I'd guess it'd be possible. 'Disk Management' makes it pretty easy to change any of the drive letter designations that have changed. Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:01:03 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install C drive tends to get affected when you do something like this: 1: Install new hard drive in same computer as old hard drive 2: Boot off old hard drive into Windows (so Windows sees the new hard drive) 3: Reboot and ghost old hard drive to new hard drive 4: Remove old hard drive, boot off new hard drive The problem is the Windows registry now has a mapping between the new hard drive's unique ID number and its drive letter. In extreme cases, this can mean Windows can't find its swap file and will refuse to let you log in properly. The worst thing is, even if you manage to boot back off the old hard drive, Windows won't let you assign the existing C drive to anything else (so you can reassign the new hard drive to C) because it's the drive Windows is sitting on. This has happened to me twice already ... the only way to fix this is to go into the registry and edit HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\MountedDevices , swapping the DOSDevices letters of C drive and the drive you want to become C, before ghosting. *sigh* once again, this is one of those things where I can understand why Microsoft did it this way but I can't understand why Microsoft made it so hard to recover from problems with respect to this ... - Raymond At 12:06 AM 29/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install --- Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you *SURE* your C drive is actually C drive? (I've never had this happen when ghosting but when doing other things, I've had drive IDs stuff up and end up with an E and F drive but no C and D drive and weird things happen). I've seen that a lot myself after hooking up a few different hard drives and memory card readers to my desktop running XP for various reasons. Haven't seen C: affected... tho' I'd guess it'd be possible. 'Disk Management' makes it pretty easy to change any of the drive letter designations that have changed. Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:29:16 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install John, I think you'll find the hibernation free space (for BIOS hibernation at least) needs to cover the 30 cylinders at the end of the drive or 1010-1040 cylinder range (well, a little less than this), whichever comes first. This occurs at around the 8GB point if the drive is larger than 8GB ... believe me, if you put this area at the end of a 20 gig drive, the moment the BIOS hibernation kicks in, weird things happen to data in the partition spanning this range as a friend of mine found out! So whilst his free space is significantly larger than it needs to be, it is covering the right area ... - Raymond At 06:24 AM 29/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install first off you have your hibernation free space in the wrong place it should be at the end of the drive and you need approximately 100MB of space. Next you need to fix the mbr of the drive so windows will boot. john --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:37:41 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install John Musielewicz, The hibernation space is correct as J. Liu has it. The BIOS puts it at the end of the hard drive up to 8 gb. Drives that are larger that 8 GB the Libby BIOS still puts it at the 8 gb boundary. What I do is first partition the drive in the L100CT. It will see the drives as an 8 gig drive (even though it's a 30). I then put the drive into a desktop computer and make the 100mb hibernation partition and the balance my data partition. Then with EZ BIOS loaded the OS can see the entire drive. EZ BIOS will NOT fix the BIOS issue of putting the hibernation file at the 8 gig boundary. Tony Oresteen Montverde, FL - Original Message - From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install first off you have your hibernation free space in the wrong place it should be at the end of the drive and you need approximately 100MB of space. Next you need to fix the mbr of the drive so windows will boot. john --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install no, that is wrong raymond. that is the hibernation area for dos which cannot see more than 8gig drive. Modern operating systems see a much larger drive and the area is moved to the end of the drive. you have to remember that as long as the computer has the power to write to the hard drive the OS rules not the bios!! john --- Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:29:16 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install John, I think you'll find the hibernation free space (for BIOS hibernation at least) needs to cover the 30 cylinders at the end of the drive or 1010-1040 cylinder range (well, a little less than this), whichever comes first. This occurs at around the 8GB point if the drive is larger than 8GB ... believe me, if you put this area at the end of a 20 gig drive, the moment the BIOS hibernation kicks in, weird things happen to data in the partition spanning this range as a friend of mine found out! So whilst his free space is significantly larger than it needs to be, it is covering the right area ... - Raymond At 06:24 AM 29/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install first off you have your hibernation free space in the wrong place it should be at the end of the drive and you need approximately 100MB of space. Next you need to fix the mbr of the drive so windows will boot. john --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle? | | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Dear Tony Yes it does work that way IF you use EZ whatever you use. Now why would you want to set up your computer like that when you don't have to? It just makes it way harder to setup for you poor silly things that believe the bios somehow magically works when there isn't any battery power to even spin the hd!! Like I mentioned in the last email, if the bios can write to the hd the operating system is in control anyway and it writes to the END of the drive not the middle. fi john --- Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:37:41 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install John Musielewicz, The hibernation space is correct as J. Liu has it. The BIOS puts it at the end of the hard drive up to 8 gb. Drives that are larger that 8 GB the Libby BIOS still puts it at the 8 gb boundary. What I do is first partition the drive in the L100CT. It will see the drives as an 8 gig drive (even though it's a 30). I then put the drive into a desktop computer and make the 100mb hibernation partition and the balance my data partition. Then with EZ BIOS loaded the OS can see the entire drive. EZ BIOS will NOT fix the BIOS issue of putting the hibernation file at the 8 gig boundary. Tony Oresteen Montverde, FL - Original Message - From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install first off you have your hibernation free space in the wrong place it should be at the end of the drive and you need approximately 100MB of space. Next you need to fix the mbr of the drive so windows will boot. john --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:02:21 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Well John, I guess you have a different BIOS than I do. Just do a simple test. If you have a disk drive larger that 8 gigs scan you sectors to find where the L100C is putting the hibernation file. The OS doesn't have anything to do with where the L100C BIOS is putting the copy of memory. It doesn't mater if youhave Win98, Win95, Win2K, XP, Linux installesd the Libby BIOS puts its hibernation file in the same palce on the hard drive and it DOES NOT recognize any drive larger than 8 gb. Now where did I say the BIOS somehow magically works when there isn't any battery power to even spin the hd!! ? You are the one who is saying silly things. Tony Oresteen Montverde, FL - Original Message - From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Dear Tony Yes it does work that way IF you use EZ whatever you use. Now why would you want to set up your computer like that when you don't have to? It just makes it way harder to setup for you poor silly things that believe the bios somehow magically works when there isn't any battery power to even spin the hd!! Like I mentioned in the last email, if the bios can write to the hd the operating system is in control anyway and it writes to the END of the drive not the middle. fi john --- Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:37:41 -0500 From: Tony Oresteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install John Musielewicz, The hibernation space is correct as J. Liu has it. The BIOS puts it at the end of the hard drive up to 8 gb. Drives that are larger that 8 GB the Libby BIOS still puts it at the 8 gb boundary. What I do is first partition the drive in the L100CT. It will see the drives as an 8 gig drive (even though it's a 30). I then put the drive into a desktop computer and make the 100mb hibernation partition and the balance my data partition. Then with EZ BIOS loaded the OS can see the entire drive. EZ BIOS will NOT fix the BIOS issue of putting the hibernation file at the 8 gig boundary. Tony Oresteen Montverde, FL - Original Message - From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: John Musielewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install first off you have your hibernation free space in the wrong place it should be at the end of the drive and you need approximately 100MB of space. Next you need to fix the mbr of the drive so windows will boot. john --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:16:31 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install A couple of things spring to mind ... Are you sure you're logging in as the same user? Tried logging in as an administrator and looking in c:\Documents and Settings\ and doing a search of subdirectories for *.lnk files? Tried searching your entire hard drive for *.lnk files? Are you *SURE* your C drive is actually C drive? (I've never had this happen when ghosting but when doing other things, I've had drive IDs stuff up and end up with an E and F drive but no C and D drive and weird things happen). - Raymond At 10:12 PM 27/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:10:50 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Well, I am almost there but not quite. Background - my L100's hard drive started making loud clicking sounds, I purchased a new drive, connected both old and new drives to an IDE cable in my desktop, and used Norton Ghost to clone the c: and d: partitions of the old drive including MBR to c: and d: partitions of the new drive. This list helped me do that. When I booted the desktop, Windows did a consistency check on the old drive, found problems in the startup folder (various *.lnk files referred to invalid files), and fixed those problems - that occurred before I used Ghost. Anyway, when I installed the new cloned drive in the Lib, the first time booting Windows also did a consistency check, the next time Windows XP booted normally and I went ahead and activated it. However, when I click Start my Start Menu has no applications pinned to it, and the Programs it is also empty. In other words, the left side of the Start Menu is empty, while the right side shows the usual my Documents, Control Panel, Run, Search, Help, and so on. The apps are in the c:\programs folder, but it seems that all the shortcuts in the Start Menu are gone. Is there any easy way to fix this? Or should I simply reinstall Win XP from scratch? I'm sort of loath to do the latter as I worry the Win XP activation will give me trouble - maybe it'll think I'm trying to use this copy of Win XP on a second computer. I cannot restore to an earlier point as I'd turned that feature off to save memory. --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:40:43 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install --- John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do think the new drive's c: partition was active, as I'd set it that way when initially partitioning the drive. I've had that problem a lot. I'll set a C: partition active, restore a Ghost image to the C: partition, and then find the Libretto can't access the hard drive anymore. Checking, I'll find that the C: partition's active status had been removed somehow in the process. I'm not quite sure how that happens, as I always thought the MBR wouldn't be affected by restoring an image. Go figure... But yeah... check to make sure your C: partition is set active. Matt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:10:50 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Well, I am almost there but not quite. Background - my L100's hard drive started making loud clicking sounds, I purchased a new drive, connected both old and new drives to an IDE cable in my desktop, and used Norton Ghost to clone the c: and d: partitions of the old drive including MBR to c: and d: partitions of the new drive. This list helped me do that. When I booted the desktop, Windows did a consistency check on the old drive, found problems in the startup folder (various *.lnk files referred to invalid files), and fixed those problems - that occurred before I used Ghost. Anyway, when I installed the new cloned drive in the Lib, the first time booting Windows also did a consistency check, the next time Windows XP booted normally and I went ahead and activated it. However, when I click Start my Start Menu has no applications pinned to it, and the Programs it is also empty. In other words, the left side of the Start Menu is empty, while the right side shows the usual my Documents, Control Panel, Run, Search, Help, and so on. The apps are in the c:\programs folder, but it seems that all the shortcuts in the Start Menu are gone. Is there any easy way to fix this? Or should I simply reinstall Win XP from scratch? I'm sort of loath to do the latter as I worry the Win XP activation will give me trouble - maybe it'll think I'm trying to use this copy of Win XP on a second computer. I cannot restore to an earlier point as I'd turned that feature off to save memory.
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:06:51 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any easy way to fix this? Or should I simply reinstall Win XP from scratch? I'm sort of loath to do the latter as I worry the Win XP activation will give me trouble - maybe it'll think I'm trying to use this copy of Win XP on a second computer. I cannot restore to an earlier point as I'd turned that feature off to save memory. If the only problem is the shortcuts on the Start menu... it's a pretty simple task to create new ones manually if you want to take the time. It's just a matter of setting up folders and putting program shortcuts in them in your 'x:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Start Menu' folder. Maybe also the 'x:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu' folder. You don't have to make them all at the same time. Maybe just do a few of the most used ones at a time, and leave the others until you're redy to use them. That's pretty much the process I go through when installing programs whenever I reformat a drive. Matt
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:08:58 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any easy way to fix this? Or should I simply reinstall Win XP from scratch? I'm sort of loath to do the latter as I worry the Win XP activation will give me trouble - maybe it'll think I'm trying to use this copy of Win XP on a second computer. I cannot restore to an earlier point as I'd turned that feature off to save memory. If the only problem is the shortcuts on the Start menu... it's a pretty simple task to create new ones manually if you want to take the time. It's just a matter of setting up folders and putting program shortcuts in them in your 'x:\Documents and Settings\(user name)\Start Menu' folder. Maybe also the 'x:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu' folder. You don't have to make them all at the same time. Maybe just do a few of the most used ones at a time, and leave the others until you're redy to use them. That's pretty much the process I go through when installing programs whenever I reformat a drive. Matt
[LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters.
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:37:37 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install At 03:28 PM 26/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). Whoa you really ARE playing it safe! I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. Are you *SURE* it's active? I only ask because I've made that mistake before - I thought Ghost had set the partition to active and it hadn't. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. Did the MBR go across as well? I haven't used Ghost for a while but if you ghost a partition from an image, it doesn't touch the MBR (even if you ghost all the partitions). Of course, if you ghosted the entire drive into an image file then restored it, it *should* have pushed the MBR across as well ... but you never know ... By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. Did you remember to set one to slave? Good luck! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:33:20 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install Ah - I had never thought of the MBR idea. I hadn't thought to jumper the second drive as slave, I will do that, hopefully the desktop will then see both IDE drives. The desktop's own drive is SCSI, and I'd forgotten all about the IDE master/slave thing (I may have forgotten, but I don't recall master/slave issues with SCSI - instead I recall the SCSI termination issue causing some hair-pulling). Then I will do a proper cloning rather than the backup-recover process I tried before. I do think the new drive's c: partition was active, as I'd set it that way when initially partitioning the drive. Also, can you remind me where the hibernation space should start and end? Thanks! On Mar 26, 2005, at 3:38 PM, Raymond wrote: Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 09:37:37 +1000 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install At 03:28 PM 26/03/2005 -0800, you wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:26:11 -0800 From: John Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install The hard drive in my L110 is, I think, dying - makes loud clicking noise frequently. So I stopped using the Lib, then bought a new 30GB Samsung drive. I used Disk Management in Win XP to create two partitions in the new drive - the first (call it c:) from 0GB to 7.5GB, primary and active, the second (call it d:) from 9GB to 30GB, primary and not active. I left an unpartitioned area from 7.5GB to 9GB for the hibernation file (more than needed, I think). Whoa you really ARE playing it safe! I then used Norton Ghost to back up the primary and active partition of the old drive (c:, where the OS lives and where it boots from) to the drive of my desktop. Then I used Norton Ghost to restore that backup to the primary and active partition (c:) of the new drive. Are you *SURE* it's active? I only ask because I've made that mistake before - I thought Ghost had set the partition to active and it hadn't. I installed the new drive in my Lib and booted up. Result? Disk error press any key to restart. What step have I overlooked? I hope to avoid having to install Win XP and all my apps from scratch, because that is such a tedious process. I had the Lib set up exactly as I wanted it. Did the MBR go across as well? I haven't used Ghost for a while but if you ghost a partition from an image, it doesn't touch the MBR (even if you ghost all the partitions). Of course, if you ghosted the entire drive into an image file then restored it, it *should* have pushed the MBR across as well ... but you never know ... By the way, I used the backup-then-restore process rather than cloning, because I couldn't get my desktop to see both the old and new drives at once, even when I had them both plugged in - they were on the same IDE cable using 40-to-44 pin adapters. Did you remember to set one to slave? Good luck! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | | ICQ: 31756092 | www.raybot.net | \~/
Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:03:27 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Please Help Me With New Hard Drive Install In a message dated 3/26/2005 5:34:28 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, can you remind me where the hibernation space should start and end? Thanks! I have mine set at cylinder 1013 to cylinder 1033, but arrived at that by testing. Probably safe to go 1010-1040 or even 1000-1050. Lee
