Going abroad
Hi Friends, I will be moving to Germany next week for an unknown period of time. I won't stay on the list so people wishing to contact me should do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ONLY (all other addresses @huji, @mobileye) will someday for sure cease to function). It was nice to meet some of you and I am sorry that I didn't have time to come to the meetings and other activities. I'll probably drop by from time to time to ask Hebrew related stuff ... So long and have fun ! Schlomo Schapiro PS: Replies should be addressed to me directly as I am already on "vacation" list-wise. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Type1 Fonts
That's why SuSE include an installation script that pulls these fonts from the MS server and installs them :-) On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Could you have a look at MS's webfonts that support iso8859-8 (times new roman, > > courier new and arial, for example)? Those fonts work out of the box, and work > > on both Linux and Windows, so I wonder what they do there to fix this encoding > > issue. OTOH, truetype may be different > > http://microsoft.com/typography/ > > Those fonts are indeed very good. The only problem with them is that they > are not freely distrebutable: You can't put them on a linux distro. You > have to install them yourself, and make all sorts of settings. > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use DualHead VGA cards to have two separate sessions
Because a DualHead VGA card can be used only by one X server, not two. With 2 separate VGA cards that might be possible, but I was thinking of making use of the modern dualhead cards. Schlomo On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > > > However, I was not able to define two Layouts (one for each set of > > screen/keyboard/mouse) that would give independant displays (:0 and :1 for > > example). The X server (XFree86 4.2.0) always just takes the first Layout > > section and ignores the others. > > Just a thought: why not have two seperate config files? > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use DualHead VGA cards to have two separate sessions
Hi, I am looking for people who tried (or can try) the following setup with a dualhead VGA card (like Matrox 450/550, Radeon VE and others) or with 2 VGA cards: I would like to be able to run two completely independant X sessions for 2 users on the same computer. One would use the normal PS/2 keyboard and mouse while the second user would use a USB mouse and keyboard. With all my experiments I was only able to use different modes of cloning or Xinerama or multiscreen for the same session. Also using more than one keyboard/mouse for one session is possible (with the SendCoreEvents options). However, I was not able to define two Layouts (one for each set of screen/keyboard/mouse) that would give independant displays (:0 and :1 for example). The X server (XFree86 4.2.0) always just takes the first Layout section and ignores the others. Furthermore, on my Matrox G450, if I try to start X on the secondary display only, it just doesn't work. X complains about a missing definition for Screen 0 (the secondary display is Screen 1). So, did anybody make such a setup or wants to do it or is researching the same or has any ideas ? I would like to know wether it works before buying a USB keyboard :-) Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to find out wether X user is idle
Wel, I would like to use something existing before inventing the wheel... And maybe some enhanced "w" or maybe a plugin to "w" (whatever) could do the job. What about offering some new ideas instead of just stating the obvious and unfeasable (I don't have time to dive into large sources now) ? Btw: Using xautolock to run a program after x minutes idle time is not enough because I need a per-minute sample wether the user is active or not to be able to create true usage profiles. And I need to know also (end especially) about extended periods of inactivity. Regards, Schlomo On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, guy keren wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > is there any way to find out wether a user using X is idle (without using > > a screen saver !). I need to be able to find out how much time ago the > > mouse or keyboard was used, > > how about reading the source of an X screen saver? > its not trivial in any event - but if the screen saver can do it - it must > have it in its source ;) > > > PS: If I could get w to show correct info, this would be also good. > > and why would 'w' show correct input? 'w' shows IDLE time in the various > shells. it has no notion of X, so naturally it does not caer about mouse > movements, or key presses that were not done in any of the login shells. > > -- > guy > > "For world domination - press 1, > or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to find out wether X user is idle
Hi, is there any way to find out wether a user using X is idle (without using a screen saver !). I need to be able to find out how much time ago the mouse or keyboard was used, Any ideas ? The aim is to be able to monitor the usage of a Linux Kiosk (X server + browser + fvwm95) that doesn't run any other programs because I start it all manually from an init-script (e.g. w doesn't show this etc.). Thanks, Schlomo PS: If I could get w to show correct info, this would be also good. -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cross gcc
Sounds nice, but I need to build the TOOLS (binutils, glibc & gcc), not the app :-) Schlomo On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > If I'm not mistaken, KDevelop now got true multi platform support so you can > rebuild your stuff on any arch with gcc cross tools - they really took out > all the pain for doing this... > > You might want to check it out. TrollTech sponsored the modifications and > they are on KDevelop 1.3 which have been released: > > Old details and screenshots: http://dot.kde.org/1007435836/ > > Hetz > > On Thursday 24 January 2002 17:42, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need help doing a cross gcc on i386 to ppc (all linux of course). > > > > The problem is that I need this to work with the usual glibc and NOT > > newlib. > > > > I'd like to exchange experiences with anybody who did something like this > > before (or plans to). > > > > Please mail off-list if you consider it not interesting for all. > > (and, please no flame wars ...) > > > > Thanks, > > Schlomo > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cross gcc
We bought one G4 for this purpose. But still, a dual Athlon outcompiles that one by much. And everybody got one of those on his desk ! And for the price of 1 G4 you buy at least 2 dual Athlons ... Schlomo On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > > > I need help doing a cross gcc on i386 to ppc (all linux of course). > > > > The problem is that I need this to work with the usual glibc and NOT > > newlib. > > > > I'd like to exchange experiences with anybody who did something like this > > before (or plans to). > > > > Please mail off-list if you consider it not interesting for all. > > (and, please no flame wars ...) > > Why not just get a power MAC and install linux on it? First generation > power MACS are basicly give away items these days. > > Geoff. > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cross gcc
Yes, but it runs a full Linux, (normal kernel, glibc and 8 MB of usual programs). It's our online system and rather cool. But now we don't have a cross compiler and so we have to compile on PPC (we got one apple for that) With a cross-gcc we could compile everywhere. Schlomo On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 05:42:11PM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need help doing a cross gcc on i386 to ppc (all linux of course). > > I am DYING to do something like this - are you cross-compiling for > an embedded box? > > Marc > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cross gcc
Hi, I need help doing a cross gcc on i386 to ppc (all linux of course). The problem is that I need this to work with the usual glibc and NOT newlib. I'd like to exchange experiences with anybody who did something like this before (or plans to). Please mail off-list if you consider it not interesting for all. (and, please no flame wars ...) Thanks, Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UTF-8 (was: Re: PHPNuke - with Hebrew (Logical) support)
Do you get to write logical hebrew in VIM like this without all the time putting all the document into RTL mode ? Schlomo On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Zvi Har'El wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: > > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > > > > > What you should do is write the whole translation in UTF-8. > > > > umm, isn't UTF-8 8 bit with occasional 16? :) > > UTF-8 is one, two or three bytes per character. In the Hebrew case, a Hebrew > character is two bytes. > > > > > I thought UTF-8 is problematic with some of the browsers... > > > > are there any Hebrew sites currently using UTF-8 Hebrew so I can test > > them with several browsers and study them? > > Try http://JV.Gilead.org.il/FAQ/index.html.he , or http://JV.Gilead.org.il/FAQ/ > if your browsers is configured to prefer the Hebrew language over other > languages. Also try http://JV.Gilead.org.il/hebrew/, and compare with the > ISO-8859-8 version in http://JV.Gilead.org.il/hebrew/jv.html . > I am in the process of moving my whole site into UTF-8: Its much easier to edit > a file in UTF-8 (in vim, of course) rather then use all those HTM entities, > especially when I used entities lik ‘ and “ (left single quote and > left double quote) etc. all the time! > > Best, > > Zvi. > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.1.99.6
Hi, And is your system really stable (regarding the stress tests a very esteemed member of the list did recently) ? Schlomo On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > On 2002 January? 21 ,Monday 00:47, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > > ati radeon on xfree 4.1, the default mandrake 8.1 intallation, works ut > > > of the box. I cound not configure 3d with a self-compiled kernel. (help!) > > > - diego > > > > What kernel version? > > > > Have you compiled the ati radeon support in the kernel? > 2.4.16 official, clean, and yes. > - diego > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 4.1.99.6
Hi, I have to install X on a modern Laptop (Compaq 1700) with an ATI Radeon Mobility. X 4.1.0 didn't recognize the card so I followed some newsgroup advice to compile X from CVS. Compile went well, XFree86 -configure recognizes the card but fails to load with lots of unresolved symbol messages. Did anybody on the list manage to compile & run XFree86 from a recent CVS (preferrably with a Radeon) on glibc 2.2 and can let me download their (compiled) sourcetree ? Or does anybody know how to resolve the unresolved symbol messages (on almost all hardware modules). Regards, Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wearables in Israel
Actually, about wearables: I once had a "wearable" walkman whose lifespan was very short (2 days) because I bumped into a corner with it. Nothing happened to me, but the walkman was broken into 2 ... Since then I refrain from strapping any costly and brakeable stuff on my body since I can't exclude the danger of bumping into corners, tables, whatever (Not that I am clumsy, it just can happen to everybody). Schlomo On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 05:49:40PM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > Comes with a builtin mini keyboard, handwriting support, extension slots > > (CF, SD) and, last but not least, it got a really good review ( for a > > Linux PDA) by c't 26/2001 (www.heise.de/ct). > It is nice indeed, but it is NOT a wearable. It seems like a very nice > handheld, with piles of useful equipment, for a reasonable amount of > cash... But it does NOT fulfill my requirements... > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: forward on command line
Use something like formail i am talking about forwarding to a remote pop3 mailbox, not local. > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:12:13 +0200 (IST) > > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: forward on command line > > > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > > > hi all, > > > > > > is there a way to forward all mail from a mailbox (mail-only user) to an > > > email address on a single command line ? > > > > > > this is mandrake 8.1, sendmail-8.12.1-4mdk. > > > > What about 'cat old_mailbox >>new_mailbox' ? > > > > Should this work (assuming nobody tries to deliver there mail at that > > moment)? > > > > Also, if the user has imap access, you can simply copy the old mailbox > > as onother mailbox for the new user. > > > > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs. I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org Schlomo - Original Message - From: "Oleg Goldshmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM? > > Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice? > > Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found > an Italian RPM at > > http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html > > -- > Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xauth/pam/su inside an xterm problem
Or try this: #!/bin/bash if [ "$1" == "" -o "$1" == "fromremote" ] ; then # same machine su -c "cd ; xauth add `xauth list $DISPLAY`; xterm -ls -vb -sb -sl 2000 -T Root@`hostname -f` -n Root@`hostname -f` -j -rw +vb -bg \#ff8c6d -fn 10x20 &" # sleep to give the xterm time to open [ "$1" == "fromremote" ] && sleep 1 else cmd="\"export DISPLAY=$DISPLAY;xauth add `xauth list $DISPLAY`;xterm -geometry 20x1 +sb -e xsu fromremote\"" rsh $1 "bash -c $cmd" fi Works very nice over rlogin, too. It add's the users xauth entry to roots XAuthority instead of letting root manipulate the users .XAuthority Have Fun, Schlomo PS: I couldn't resist sending it because it's the product of a quite long improvement curve and I still have some open issues: Like skipping the cmd= stuff for the rsh. Without it it always would loose the quotes ... On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > > I am using Mandrake Linux 8.1 and recently got a problem when using su > > under xterms. > > > > The problem is that when su exits I get a "Bus Error" > > signal. The reason is that the pam_xauth PAM module tries to create a very > > large file at $HOME/.xauth/refcount/root/localhost.localdomain/unix\:0. (I > > traced this problem into a bug in pam_xauth and reported it to the PAM > > mailing list) > > > > Now, when I try to su again, I get a "File size limit exceeded" notice > > after I type the password. > > > > I can overcome this method by deleting my $HOME/.Xauthority file. However, > > when I run startx, it is created once more, so I have to delete it time > > and again. I don't know what I did to trigger this problem because since I > > installed Linux Mandrake 7.1 (and upgraded it to the more recent versions) > > su ran fine. > > WorksForMe . > > Just a note about your current workaround: > > deleting .Xauthority prevents you from authenticating to the X server. In > that case pam_xauth does nothing. > > If pam_xauth is indeed buggy and there is no easy way around it, disable > pam_xauth . At least you will be able to use X Authority for your user's > clients. > > Instead of using xauth you can manually forward X authority. Or, you can > use: > > alias xsu=='su -c "env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY $SHELL" -' > > Or: > > alias xsu=='su -c "env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority $SHELL" -' > > This is supposed to run a root shell that uses the same DISPLAY and > XAUTHORITY file as the original shell. > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lindows screenshots
Well, pay upfront $99 to be an "insider". So is this a good money-making scheme or something real ? Especially since I didn't find anything technical on the site during a quick browse over the top menus. Schlomo PS: And we all know the existing technologies like WINE On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi all, > > You might want to take a look at the following screenshots: > > http://www.lindows.com/screenshots > > As you can see - this is Lindows OS running natively Internet Explorer and > Office (I think it's 2000 or XP - not sure, I don't remember how Office XP > looks). You can also see that it runs natively Lotus Notes client... > > Are those photos edited? is this fake? you'll be the judge. > > Hetz > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.4.17 and stability
Interesting. I am running 2.4.4+reiserfs+LVM on a server for more than half a year without crash (it's a pretty busy PPro 200). Got a 2.4.9 where xlock crashes all the time. Or stops responding and the kernel kills it for memory reasons. So, best stick to the older stuff ... Schlomo On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > more interesting: what about 2.4.9 vanilla? > > As far as I know - 2.4.9 vanilla is pretty stable, but still crashes on very > heavy load. > > > > > is it the new VM, some other problem, or some magic patch from RedHat? > > I think there are some patches from Rik & Alan which didn't get into the main > kernel, and the most important part - it has passed tons of torture tests > from Redhat's QA testing (compared to their other not-so-tested parts).. > > If you're using non Redhat's distribution - then you can grab the 2.4.9-13 > SRPM which got a directory "config" with all the configurations ready - just > copy the right config (and rename it as .config in /usr/src/linux) - and > compile it.. > > Hetz > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wearables in Israel
Comes with a builtin mini keyboard, handwriting support, extension slots (CF, SD) and, last but not least, it got a really good review ( for a Linux PDA) by c't 26/2001 (www.heise.de/ct). For full info look here: http://developer.sharpsec.com/jindex.cfm Regards, Schlomo On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Adi Stav wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2002 at 04:02:03PM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > Why don't you get that Sharp Linux PDA for a beginning ? > > I don't know anything about it, but Marc might be interested. Why > is it better than Cassiopea or iPaq for the relevant purpose? > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux-to-linux dial-back solution
What's bad about a normal ISDN card ? Why bother with the external modem and the serial port etc. ??? On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > > Can anyone point me to a reliable, secure, and easy-to-set-up > > dial-back solution for Linux? I need to dial from a Linux box into > > another Linux box (both Red Hat 7.* if that matters), and have the > > second one hang up and dial me back. > > 1. on the machine that will ultimately be making the call, set up a dial >out script with chap or pap, or both :-) > > 2. Install sudo. > > 3. Assuming your remote system is called "fred", make sure that > "sudo pppd call fred" works properly. > > 4. Create a user for fred. Now you can have it's .bash_profile consist of >sudo pppd .. >logoff. > > 5. The more creative types, can even not allow incoming calls at all. >put in your .procmailrc file: > > :0: > * ^Subject: CALL-ME > | sudo pppd . > >Sending yourself the appropriate email gets you your call back. Although >I would have it start a script that does a little more checking and >possibly a sleep command to allow your calling system to hang up. > >If you could find an SMS->EMAIL gateway, you could start the call with >your cell phone. > > > If a faster connection is needed, Dynamode sells an ISDN T/A for about > $100, that looks and acts like an external modem. You just plug it into > your serial port and use it as if it were a 64k (or 128k) hayes > compatible modem and you can make ISDN data calls to many places outside of > Israel. > > Geoff. > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St.,97278 Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free DNS service & Dyn DNS
Nono, everybody has their own way to do it :-( bind does support DNS
updates by clients, but it's not so secure AFAIU. Actually win2k tries to
update our DNS all the time with some strange entries.
What I mean is those DNS providers where you can change an entry via a web
interface or perl client to reflect your home's changing address.
Schlomo
Sincerely,
Schlomo Schapiro
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > With DYNDNS I mean dynamic DNS features, e.g. I can update the IP of one or
> > several hosts with a script (or special URL) to give my dynamic IP at home a
> > normal name.
> >
> > Schlomo
>
> Thnaks.
> Is DYNDNS a protocol addition (if there and RFC)? and does the latest bind
> support it?
>
> - yba
>
>
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> > To: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Free DNS service & Dyn DNS
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am looking for personal experience (mainly positive/recommendations)
> > about
> > > > free DNS servers with DYNDNS features (I am fed up with my "commercial"
> > DNS
> > > > provider). Interface doesn't need to be too fancy, but it has to be
> > reliable
> > > > and work fast.
> > > >
> > > > Schlomo
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Schlomo,
> > > What is DYNDNS?
> > >
> > >- yba
> > >
> > >
> > >EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA ~. .~ Tk Open Systems
> > >
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Re: Dual EtherExpress Pro/100
Hi, I can tell you about the Intel ians driver: I set it up to do FEC (which doesn't yet give me any improved speed). This also does Fail-over very well. I guess that the intel drivers will also support what you want (ALB or one of the other modes). In any case you need to use ians. Schlomo On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Boris Kreitchman wrote: > > Hello, > > Does anyone have successful experience with implementing active/backup > setup with dual Intel EtherExpress Pro/100 ? Meaning when link goes down > on first interface IP will be transfered to second one. > > I tried bonding driver (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt) > and while everything configured according to that mini-howto > (miimon=100 mode=1) nothing happends when active cable is disconnected. > > Driver from Intel's site reports when link goes up and down but I don't > see there an option to put it into active/backup mode. > > Kernel is 2.4.17. > > Regards, > Boris > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Free DNS service & Dyn DNS
Hi,
With DYNDNS I mean dynamic DNS features, e.g. I can update the IP of one or
several hosts with a script (or special URL) to give my dynamic IP at home a
normal name.
Schlomo
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To: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Free DNS service & Dyn DNS
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking for personal experience (mainly positive/recommendations)
about
> > free DNS servers with DYNDNS features (I am fed up with my "commercial"
DNS
> > provider). Interface doesn't need to be too fancy, but it has to be
reliable
> > and work fast.
> >
> > Schlomo
> >
> >
>
> Hi Schlomo,
> What is DYNDNS?
>
> - yba
>
>
> EE 77 7F 30 4A 64 2E C5 83 5F E7 49 A6 82 29 BA ~. .~ Tk Open Systems
>
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Free DNS service & Dyn DNS
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Re: Preparing a LILO-based boot diskette
Best solution: Install Lilo, boot into linux by default, start X and VMWare with the original Windows. They get Windows, you get Linux (e.g. X on another VC), nobody has to reboot any more and, best of all, you'll get a faster computer after your father complains that the system got slower (and you answer with the usual Winblows stuff). If he won't notice it even better (in this case this action was REALLY justified !). :-) Schlomo PS: IF you have a CPU >1GHz and Windows is used for Internet & Office this is not so much out-of-the-way (and Linux + VMWare + Resume Windows is much faster than actually booting Windows :-) On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, guy keren wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > > I installed kernel 2.4.16.11mdk (from Mandrake Cooker) on my Linux > > > installation. It did not replace the old kernel but rather I have both > > > version installed. I'd like to boot it instead. > > > > > > My father would kill me if I'll replace the Win98's MBR boot loader with > > > LILO, so I'm using loadlin. > > > > why? just set up LILO to time-out after 3 seconds, and boot into windows > > by default - your father won't notice any difference - just tell him to > > press ENTER if he sees 'LILO:' on the screen for more then 3 seconds. > > > > but lets not get into paranoyaland now. > > > > I'm not going to install LILO - period. Since the rest of my family uses > Windows, there's no point in booting Linux not through it. > > > > Unfortunately, loadlin reboots the computer > > > instead of booting the Linux with the kernel and initrd file that Mandrake > > > have placed on the hard-disk. > > > > did you make sure you have a version of LILO capable of using the 32 bit > > BIOS interface, to handle large disk drives? i haven't followed on loadlin > > for a long time, so i don't know how it handles large drivers (i.e. > 1024 > > cylinders, for example). > > > > however, the fct that it worked for you until now, implies you did > > something wrong with the new kernel, or that mandrake changed something, > > and you need to look for info from them. > > > > I'll try. > > > > I decided to try and install LILO on a floppy which will boot the kernel > > > from there. I used the following lilo.conf file: > > > > > > boot=/dev/fd0 > > > map=/boot/map > > > install=/boot/boot.b > > > vga=normal > > > default=linux-2.4.16-11 > > > #keytable=/boot/us.klt > > > #lba32 > > > prompt > > > timeout=50 > > > #message=/boot/message > > > image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.16-11mdk > > > label=linux-2.4.16-11 > > > root=/dev/hdc5 > > > initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.16-11mdk.img > > > append=" devfs=mount" > > > read-only > > > > the file itself looks ok. > > > > > However, when I place the floppy in the floppy drive and reboot the > > > machine an "L" is displayed" and then the number "01" consecutively. I > > > checked the LILO documentation, but I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. > > > > because you haven't realy read it carefully. please point your browser to > > http://linuxclub.il.eu.org/lectures/12/ (slides of a lecture whose title > > is 'Linux startup process - from boot till SysV init') and look at the > > 'LILO error codes' section - it might enlighten you. > > > > I looked at it and in other places and it did not help me. > > > > My Linux hard disk has been disabled from the BIOS, so this may be a > > > problem. > > > > what do you mean 'disabled'? meaning that the BIOS does would not > > recognize it as a valid drive? then ofcourse it won't work - LILO depends > > on some bios interfaces to access the hard disk and read data from it. > > > > Bingo! Apparently, when I set up the BIOS to detect my secondary master > (the Linux disk) to AUTO instead of NONE, LILO booted the system fine. > Thanks. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > -- > Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ > Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Let's suppose you have a table with 2^n cups..." > "Wait a second - is n a natural number?" > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU server, and a tiny story.
Good point ! Don't run after the latest unless you need it (like if you have a PPC). I am also running one of my servers with 2.4.4 with VERY long uptimes (almost year now). It's got a very large UPS so power failures are less often ... However, I once upgraded it from 2.4.2 because I needed the loop device to work. Schlomo On 27 Dec 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > later I found out it's a different problem... the CC server is running > > kernel 2.4.2 and CC is sticking all sorts of funny and not-so-funny > > modules into its kernel. > > Well, leaving CC modules aside, how long will MTBR(eboots) be if you > diligently install every new production kernel as it comes out > (assuming no failures, just keeping the kernel up-to-date)? > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ibm thinkpad r-30
Hi, I'll be testing one of those this week (or early next week). Schlomo - Original Message - From: "mulix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 5:37 PM Subject: ibm thinkpad r-30 > hello, linuxers, > > i am contemplating laying my grubby paws upon a shiny new ibm thinkpad > r-30. a quick google search didnt show any news pertinent to linux. > might one (or more) of the members of this august company be able to > shed the light of personal experience on the subject? > > note: i have a thinkpad t-20, i know it works fine. i'm looking for > information on the new r series. > -- > mulix > > http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ > http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Experience with Gamatronic's UPS
Hi, we got a lot of them at work and already (after less than 6 month) we also have a lot of them broken down :-(. However, their service was OK and they replaced them swiftly. You should know that the 9pin sub-d interface of the cheaper UPSs only gives a so-called contact-interface. I have the schematics at home if s.b. cares. I got them without problem from some tech guy at Gamatronics. Schlomo - Original Message - From: "guy keren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: Experience with Gamatronic's UPS > > On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'd like to know if somebody has some experience with Gamatronic UPS. > > I'm looking for unexpensive reliable UPS that has support for Linux. > > The one of Gamatronic seems to be this one, but I'd prefer to here first of > > all > > some opinions before buying. > > here is my _biased_ opinion (biased since my company wrote management > software for gamatronic's larger PS-es and UPS-es) - we bought several > UPSes from them - the smaller version - and we also got one of the larger > UPSes. they are used to hold PC stations - we usually put the machine > without the display itself on the UPS - and so far they seem to work well. > didn't try connecting to their serial ports, so i can't tell you much > about linux support for that. the larger UPS-es have an SNMP interface, > btw, but that requires a small external box (no idea if it comes with the > UPS, or only for an extra price). we use most of the UPS-es we got from > them for less then a year yet (except for the larger one - which works > for a year+), so you'd better find someone that uses them for longer then > that. in the same environment, we have other UPS-es too (advice, and 1 > other company). some of them died, but it seems that it was due to the > need to replace the battery after around 2 years of use - apprently, we > replaced those batteries only after the UPS mulfunctioned ;) > > hope it (biasly) helps, > > -- > guy > > "For world domination - press 1, > or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FEC / Load Balancing on Ethernet
Hi, I got myself an Intel 100 Server Adapter and I put together this with another normal Intel 100 and a HP 4000 switch to do load balancing. It seems to work well and the interface claims to do 200MBit. The problem is that with all my test I did it seems to me that it doesn't really pass 200MBit but only 100MBit (I copied /dev/null via netcat two one,two,three other machines and I never got more than 12MB total). Does anybody else use such a setup ? I would like to swap experience. Schlomo PS: The Server card is just 30$ more expensive and you need just one to make a team. -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two mouses in X.
Here are the relevant parts of an XF86Config that does exactly that: Section "InputDevice" Driver"mouse" Identifier"Mouse[1]" Option"Device""/dev/psaux" Option"Emulate3Buttons" "on" Option"Emulate3Timeout" "50" Option"InputFashion" "Mouse" Option"Name" "Autodetection" Option"Protocol" "ps/2" Option"Vendor""Sysp" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver"mouse" Identifier"Mouse[2]" Option"Device""/dev/input/mice" Option"Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option"ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "ServerLayout" Identifier"Layout[all]" InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Mouse[2]" "SendCoreEvents" Option"Clone" "off" Option"Xinerama" "off" Screen"Screen[0]" EndSection Have fun, Schlomo PS: X 4.0.3 PPS: SuSE's SaX2 utility lets you configure this kind of stuff ! On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Erez Doron wrote: > please tell us if that works ! > > regards > erez. > > The Rabbit of Vugluskr wrote: > > > Thanks ;-) > > Max. > > > > On Wednesday 12 December 2001 00:18, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 11, 2001, The Rabbit of Vugluskr wrote about "Two mouses in X.": > > > > IBM laptop with "native" mouse (I don't remember how it's called, the red > > > > button people sometimes call "dagdegan":-)) recognized as Generic PS/2 > > > > (/dev/psaux) and USB mouse (/dev/input/mice). X works perfectly with > > > > both, of couse, but my purpose is make the user able to unplug USB mouse > > > > and continue working with "red button" "on the fly". OS - RH7.2 > > > > > > You can perhaps try to have both mice work all the time (even when the USB > > > mouse is plugged in), by having two mice. Look at your XF86Config-4 file: > > > it has parts looking like: > > > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > > .. > > > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" > > > .. > > > EndSection > > > ... > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > > Driver "mouse" > > > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" > > > Option "Protocol" "imPS/2" > > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "off" > > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > You can add another mouse, Mouse1 (with a different "Device" option), > > > and then say that Mouse1 is an alternate pointer on that InputDevice line. > > > I don't remember the exact syntax - maybe you should read the docs or maybe > > > someone else can give a working example - but I tried it once and it > > > worked: I got both a PS2 mouse and a USB mouse to work on the same system > > > concurrently. I could even have the mice "fight" each other - you move the > > > two mice, and see which way the pointer ends up moving (obviously, even > > > with two mice you only end up with one pointer). > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > This message is for the designated recipient only, and will self destruct in 5 > seconds, > Please Duck beforehand. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid conf.
Actually more and more FTP clients (not webbrowsers) do support ftp-over-httpd. Even the famous lftp command line client does it well. Schlomo On Mon, 10 Dec 2001, Maxim Kryachko wrote: > Got the point, tnx. > > Max > > On Monday 10 December 2001 18:01, Evgeny Popov wrote: > > Will not work. Squid can not work as proxy for regular ( WS-FTP, CuteFTP) > > ftp clients, i think they have that issue explaned in the FAQ. Only > > browsers, which actually emulate ftp through http can work, but transparent > > proxying doesn't work either. Such a pitty. > > > > Best Regards, > > Evgeny Popov > > Publicom Ltd > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Maxim Kryachko [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: á 10 ãöîáø 2001 17:39 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Squid conf. > > > > > > Hi all. Thanks to all who helped me with my problems, all is solved by > > > now. > > > > > > I have Squid machine acting as http and ftp proxy. Http does not have a > > > problem, but Windows ftp clients do. Particularly with some kind of error > > > > > > Illegal PORT command > > > cannot open data socket > > > > > > when trying to get file list from the server. > > > > > > Linux clients (Konqueror) works OK. > > > > > > I enabled passive ftp mode in squid.conf. > > > > > > What I missed? > > > > > > Tnx > > > > > > Max > > > > > > = > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > *** > >*** The contents of this email and any attachments are > > confidential. > > It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. > > If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager > > or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or > > make copies. > > > > ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** > > ******* > >*** > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe, send mail to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: porting from outlook
Oh yes, I tried it. If you can, don't touch it. Also, it might be discontinued now (I heard such a rumor some time ago). Schlomo On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Eli Marmor wrote: > I believe that some subscribers of this list had experience with HP > Open Mail, which may be a (better than nothing) solution. > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
strange free output
Hi, I just now got my new AMD Athlon 1600+ w/ 512MB RAM and free gives this output: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:514032 208576 305456 0 48824 178956 -/+ buffers/cache: 18014398509462780 533236 Swap: 525304 0 525304 Can anybody explain the high number in the second line ? Sadly it also confuses xosview. Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mount timeout
do you have portmap running (try rpcinfo -o localhost on the problematic computer). Schlomo On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Maxim Kryachko wrote: > Hi list. > > Did anybody experienced a problem with > RPC: timed out > when trying to mount a remote volume (server RH71) on freshly installed RH72 > station? > This setup worked OK previously. Same IP, same user. > The volume is exported to all the subnet with ro permission. This particular > computer (IP) was mounting this particular volume pretty well until I > upgraded OS to RH72. > mount version on client 2.11g. > > /var/log/messages shows > rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 192.168.1.80: 801 for > /export/public (/export/public ) > > Just as like as in other (successful) cases. > > What could be a problem? > Tnx, > > MAx > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting SuSE 7.3 etc.
Please note that the for-money versions are not supposed to be copied for money. That's at least how I understood them. Trying to get an official info from them is near to impossible. I only got referred to the license of YaST which isn't clear to me about the subject. I was asking them about making free copies of the Email Server CD (A really great product. Check my ftp site for it). my 2c Schlomo On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I don't want this on the list for now. > > There is another way. All the SuSE stuff should be GPL. So: Why not bring in one > set by direct import for whatever it costs - say $130 incl. S&H. Whoever takes > the books (I'm willing) pays $x, and makes CD-R copies for n others at $y so > that x + n * y >= 130, x > y. (Coppying the DVD could be a problem.) I'm just > suggesting that we do what Linux Central and Cheapbytes do, apparently quite > legally. > > I'm a "Chevrat Be'am" so I can do the import, and even prepare the CD's with a > "Cheshbonit Mas" - all 100% kasher. If n gets bigger than about 3, I might > consider making a few "grush" along the way. Remember, I (or someone) has gotta > sit and burn 7 * n CD-R's and n DVD's - takes time and resources. > > I think that GPL makes it legal. However, I wouldn't like to offer this service > on the list, until there are enough enquiries to warrant spending money on legal > advice. > > Regards, > > > Daniel Feiglin > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: israeli proxy net
FYI, not everybody uses squid for proxy services. HUJI for example uses something commercial... Schlomo On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > Hey, I know it's not exaclly the place > to ask it but I guess I know no better. > is there some israeli proxy net? > ie:already set web proxy hierchy > since all universaty proxies goes through machba > how come they are not sibilings of each other? > > if there isn't such net is anyone intersting in the making of one? > > Ely Levy > System group > Hebrew University > Jerusalem Israel > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Interesting indeed. Maybe they changes something since I used them last time. Did you try calling ? Schlomo PS: Btw, SuSE more and more goes corporate with all the bad parts, too. On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > I got a reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then it was magically taken over by > Shelley Davies at SuSE UK, who duckshoved it to Johnathan Thornhill at Bowline, > their South African distributor. As I said, not-so-politely below, &^%#$% to that! > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Whom did you ask at SuSE Germany about shipping to Israel ? I got a > > shipment from them some month ago without any problem (except the price). > > > > Schlomo > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Gold Edward wrote: > > > > > >>I can give some summary about my "quest" for the official > >>distribution in Israel SuSE . > >> > >>I tried to get SuSE latest version (7.3) from all sources -- and did not > >>succeed : > >>PF1 stopped to import it and the same situation with another company > >>from > >>Raanana which SuSE site listed as their second Israeli supplier. > >>Amazon is supplying it in U.S. only (don't know the cause)-- and the > >>same > >>situation was encountered after some > >>non-extensive checkings on other US sw. selling sites . > >> > >>BTW- not sure, but SuSE site sells it for 78 US $ "only"-- not 130. > >>I totaly agree with Nadav-Har'El opinion about this distribution first > >>class > >>quality-- > >>I used 6.1 for a long time (bought on BUG on September 1999)-- > >>but on work we could not obtain > >>SuSE 7.3 (we needed it because we thought that 2.4.15) would > >>give us some Posix IPC features. > >>SuSE site mentions that they sell only in E.U. -- very curious > >>behaviour... > >>We ended up on RH7.1 (2.4.10 & updated afterwards to 2.4.15). > >>It is an unfortunate situation that such a succesfull distribution > >>can not be easily obtained around here-- I mean their all > >>goodies, i.e. 2300 packages (and manuals). > >> > >>Edy > >> > >> > >> > >>Daniel Feiglin wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi, > >>>> > >>>>PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once > >>>>in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > >>>> > >>>But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. > >>> > >>> > >>>>And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has > >>>>s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and > >>>>whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data + > >>>>your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed). > >>>> > >>>>I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people > >>>>who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy > >>>>it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards). > >>>> > >>>>Schlomo > >>>> > >>>>PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told > >>>>>>them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they > >>>>>>told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Who is their local importer? > >>>>> > >>>>>Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller. > >>>>>The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of > >>>>>Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site). > >>>>> > >>>>>Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>I don't think th
Re: Local SuSE mirror.
Diskettes are on the CD/DVD. All CDs are on the DVD. So if you have a DVD drive, you need only the DVD :-) Better yet, sell the CDs to a friend without a DVD drive ... Schlomo On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: > It seems that the media in a Suse distro is composed of diskettes, CDs > and DVD. > Is there any redundancy? I mean, the diskettes are also on the CDs. > Does the content of the CDs and the DVD the same? > In particular, can one have either the CDs or the DVD, but not both, > without loosing content? > > > > Hi, > > > > please note that International SuSE is not 100% equal to German SuSE. > > > > The differences are in the paper stuff (books etc) and in some commercial > > packages they add (for some packages only the International SuSE has the > > English version). That's why I advice to always order the International > > version. If you order it anyway it shouldn't be a problem, either. > > > > Schlomo > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Daniel Feiglin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Shaul Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:24 AM > > Subject: Re: Local SuSE mirror. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shaul Karl wrote: > > > > > > > (1) > > > > Why you haven't mentioned http://www.cheapbytes.com and > > > > > > > > > Cheapbytes is a few $ more expensive than Linux Central (including S&H). > > > > > > > > > > similar online stores? > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) > > > > I can ask people I know abroad whether they are willing to send it to > > > > me. > > > > I will charge a few $$ for myself for the bother. > > > > > > > > Will you be interested? > > > > > > > > > > > >If yes: > > > > > > > > How much are you willing to pay? > > > > > > > > > A little more than the mormal selling price $70+/- and a lot less than > > $130 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will you be interested in the media only (diskettes + CDs + DVD)? That > > > > is, > > > > the distro without the documentation, thus lowering shipment cost? > > > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > How long will you be willing to wait for the package to arrive (once > > > > again, > > > > longer delivery means cheaper shipment)? > > > > > > > > > I've found that UPS/Fedex faster services are SLOWER than regular airmail, > > > becuse of customs/VAT . Regular airmail gets to the local PO, you pay your > > VAT > > > across the counter & that's it. > > > > > > So, regular air mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there such a thing as German Suse and English Suse? If yes, does it > > > > matters to you which one will I get? > > > > > > > > > As far as I know SuSE is SuSE is SuSE. At one point there was a different > > US > > > version because of the export limits on 128 bit encryption software. I > > haven't > > > seen that in the 7.x releases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand there is a personal edition and a professional one. Which > > > > one > > > > are you looking for? > > > > > > > > > Pro. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I ask about older Suse distribution? It should be cheaper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope. I got 6.1-4, 7.0-1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Hi, > > > >> > > > >>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>>Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Hi, > > > >>>> > > > >>>>PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also > > once > > > >>>>in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. > > > >>> >
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Whom did you ask at SuSE Germany about shipping to Israel ? I got a shipment from them some month ago without any problem (except the price). Schlomo On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Gold Edward wrote: > I can give some summary about my "quest" for the official > distribution in Israel SuSE . > > I tried to get SuSE latest version (7.3) from all sources -- and did not > succeed : > PF1 stopped to import it and the same situation with another company > from > Raanana which SuSE site listed as their second Israeli supplier. > Amazon is supplying it in U.S. only (don't know the cause)-- and the > same > situation was encountered after some > non-extensive checkings on other US sw. selling sites . > > BTW- not sure, but SuSE site sells it for 78 US $ "only"-- not 130. > I totaly agree with Nadav-Har'El opinion about this distribution first > class > quality-- > I used 6.1 for a long time (bought on BUG on September 1999)-- > but on work we could not obtain > SuSE 7.3 (we needed it because we thought that 2.4.15) would > give us some Posix IPC features. > SuSE site mentions that they sell only in E.U. -- very curious > behaviour... > We ended up on RH7.1 (2.4.10 & updated afterwards to 2.4.15). > It is an unfortunate situation that such a succesfull distribution > can not be easily obtained around here-- I mean their all > goodies, i.e. 2300 packages (and manuals). > > Edy > > > > Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once > > > in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > > > > But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. > > > > > > > > And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has > > > s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and > > > whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data + > > > your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed). > > > > > > I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people > > > who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy > > > it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards). > > > > > > Schlomo > > > > > > PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > > > > > >>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>>Hi, > > >>> > > >>>I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told > > >>>them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they > > >>>told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it. > > >>> > > >>Who is their local importer? > > >> > > >>Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller. > > >>The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of > > >>Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site). > > >> > > >>Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake? > > >> > > >> > > >>>I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major > > >>>problems: > > >>>1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are s American !), therefore > > >>>there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE > > >>> > > >>SuSE sells pretty well in the US. Mandrake (originally french) is also > > >>doing well. Maybe some people here have problems with German products (no > > >>flames please, I'm only stating a fact), however I don't think that this > > >>is reflected in the sales of FolksWagen. > > >> > > >> > > >>>2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just > > >>>open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the > > >>>Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our > > >>>bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer. > > >>> > > >>Hmm... > > >> > > >> > > >>>Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would > > >>>order from them directly (from Germany). > > >>> > > >>>I o
Re: Local SuSE mirror.
Hi, please note that International SuSE is not 100% equal to German SuSE. The differences are in the paper stuff (books etc) and in some commercial packages they add (for some packages only the International SuSE has the English version). That's why I advice to always order the International version. If you order it anyway it shouldn't be a problem, either. Schlomo - Original Message - From: "Daniel Feiglin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Shaul Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Local SuSE mirror. > > > Shaul Karl wrote: > > > (1) > > Why you haven't mentioned http://www.cheapbytes.com and > > > Cheapbytes is a few $ more expensive than Linux Central (including S&H). > > > > similar online stores? > > > > > > (2) > > I can ask people I know abroad whether they are willing to send it to > > me. > > I will charge a few $$ for myself for the bother. > > > > Will you be interested? > > > > > >If yes: > > > > How much are you willing to pay? > > > A little more than the mormal selling price $70+/- and a lot less than $130 > > > > > > Will you be interested in the media only (diskettes + CDs + DVD)? That > > is, > > the distro without the documentation, thus lowering shipment cost? > > > Yes. > > > > How long will you be willing to wait for the package to arrive (once > > again, > > longer delivery means cheaper shipment)? > > > I've found that UPS/Fedex faster services are SLOWER than regular airmail, > becuse of customs/VAT . Regular airmail gets to the local PO, you pay your VAT > across the counter & that's it. > > So, regular air mail. > > > > > > Is there such a thing as German Suse and English Suse? If yes, does it > > matters to you which one will I get? > > > As far as I know SuSE is SuSE is SuSE. At one point there was a different US > version because of the export limits on 128 bit encryption software. I haven't > seen that in the 7.x releases. > > > > > > I understand there is a personal edition and a professional one. Which > > one > > are you looking for? > > > Pro. > > > > > > Should I ask about older Suse distribution? It should be cheaper. > > > > > > > Nope. I got 6.1-4, 7.0-1 > > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >>>Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi, > >>>> > >>>>PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once > >>>>in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > >>>> > >>> > >>>But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. > >>> > >>Well, probably it's better so. > >> > >> > >>>Other matters: At various times I've seen SuSE even in BUG! > >>> > >>>Why SuSE: I started out with Redhat in 5.1-2 days. 6.0 was a disaster. PF1 > >>>offered me SuSE 6.1 for peanuts, at Computax, and in terms of distro quality and > >>>scope I never looked back. I must confess that 7.1 was not brilliant, and I > >>>finished up with what in now SuSE 7.1 and a half - d/l'd kernel 2.4.9 and got > >>>KDE 2.2.1 from a CD burning outfit in the US (also cost peanuts). > >>> > >>Actually we use 7.1 at work and it's served us very good till now. I > >>upgraded KDE and X from the SuSE RPMs (d/l) without any problem. I am even > >>still using the shipped 2.2.18 kernel and no reason to complain (I compile > >>2.4.x for selected computers that need it). > >> > >> > >> > >>>SuSE refused to supply me the 7.2 upgrade: They referred me to their UK dealer > >>>who said that he could only supply from South Africa. Stuff that. About 7.3: > >>>There are some rather nasty reviews floating around (LinuxPlanet) for anyone > >>>trying to upgrade using the graphics interface (yast2). If anyone is interested, > >>>I have them in a 256Kb tarball. > >>> > >>I would only deal with SuSE Germany. They where very nice till now except > >>for once when I tried to pay with a credit card of the boss and they > >>noticed the difference in order-name and billing-name :-) But then a > >>sales-rep called my from Germany and
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Hi, On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once > > in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). > > > But they stopped. You can see V7.1 on their site. Well, probably it's better so. > > > > Other matters: At various times I've seen SuSE even in BUG! > > Why SuSE: I started out with Redhat in 5.1-2 days. 6.0 was a disaster. PF1 > offered me SuSE 6.1 for peanuts, at Computax, and in terms of distro quality and > scope I never looked back. I must confess that 7.1 was not brilliant, and I > finished up with what in now SuSE 7.1 and a half - d/l'd kernel 2.4.9 and got > KDE 2.2.1 from a CD burning outfit in the US (also cost peanuts). Actually we use 7.1 at work and it's served us very good till now. I upgraded KDE and X from the SuSE RPMs (d/l) without any problem. I am even still using the shipped 2.2.18 kernel and no reason to complain (I compile 2.4.x for selected computers that need it). > SuSE refused to supply me the 7.2 upgrade: They referred me to their UK dealer > who said that he could only supply from South Africa. Stuff that. About 7.3: > There are some rather nasty reviews floating around (LinuxPlanet) for anyone > trying to upgrade using the graphics interface (yast2). If anyone is interested, > I have them in a 256Kb tarball. I would only deal with SuSE Germany. They where very nice till now except for once when I tried to pay with a credit card of the boss and they noticed the difference in order-name and billing-name :-) But then a sales-rep called my from Germany and I tried over 45 minutes to convince him to take the payment from my credit card (HE called !!!). Then he got VERY cold feet about the long phone talk and rather suddenly said "I'll cancel. Please order anew" and hang up :-). While I was upset that they wouldn't take that order I was very pleased by them calling me for clarification instead of silently dropping the order. I am also glad they refused the order since it means that they really check it. my 2c Schlomo > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Hi, PF1/REL imported them last time I checked (by phone). I saw it also once in a shop in JM (an old version, of course). And, they actually do have an excellend Evaluation CD (nobody else has s.th. like this !): It boots a live filesystem from CD with all bells and whistles installed. Including proper setup and it saves all the data + your home dir on the local disk (vfat partition needed). I think this is a very good solution for the evaluation problem and people who want to suck from this a normal installation can just boot it and copy it over to their hard disk (and do normal RPM installs afterwards). Schlomo PS: Download it from ftp://schapiro.org On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told > > them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they > > told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it. > > Who is their local importer? > > Last time I looked at their site, there was a link to an Israeli reseller. > The site of the Israeli reseller had no mention of SuSE (only of > Mandrake, if you bothered digging deep enough into the site). > > Do you see any SuSE in any store? Do you see any Redhat or Mandrake? > > > > > I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major > > problems: > > 1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are s American !), therefore > > there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE > > SuSE sells pretty well in the US. Mandrake (originally french) is also > doing well. Maybe some people here have problems with German products (no > flames please, I'm only stating a fact), however I don't think that this > is reflected in the sales of FolksWagen. > > > 2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just > > open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the > > Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our > > bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer. > > Hmm... > > > > > Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would > > order from them directly (from Germany). > > > > I once ordered a package directly from them for my work and it > > was all very well, except the 60 DM shipping cost. > > 130$? > > If they don't start handing out evaluation CDs, (almost) no-one in Israel > will bother with that. > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Hi, SuSE has a strong position in the German (and European) market for the following reasons (my personal understanding, nothing official): - Very good localization (German, French, Spanish) - Pedantic distro (as opposed to all kind of small "oversights" in RH setup for non-US configuration) - really large software selection on the CDs - till 6.x relatively cheap - localized phone & email support - And, last but not least: It's a German distro and Germans of course like to buy German (just like we buy blue-white etc) And: There where several other German distros that are now more or less dead (the most famous beeing DLD). FYI, Schlomo On Mon, 3 Dec 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Dec 03, 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote about "Re: Local SuSE mirror": > > 1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are s American !), therefore > > there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE > > I think that SuSE has to realise three facts (at least, I think they are facts): > > 1. A person that installs some distribution and is relatively-satisfied with > it, is likely to continue upgrading this distribution, rather than > reformatting the disk and installing a different distribution. > > 2. A person that starts out with Linux will prefer to get a copy of their > first distribution for free, rather than pay $130. People who can't > find a friend to copy from or don't have a CD writer (this used to be a > big issue, but is less of an issue now) look for the cheapest cheap-bytes > $2-$5 like option. > > 3. When someone considers to buy with actual money a distribution (e.g., this > is common in the business arena, where time is also money), they usually > prefer to get the distribution they already know and like. > > So as long as SuSE continue their no-official-and-latest-free-distribution > policy, I'd say that they have no chance of large market penetration. That > is, unless they have some other major strong point, such as hypothetically > having much better Hebrew support than other distributions. > > I once used Slackware, and moved to Redhat when I saw Slackware was slacking > (pun intended :)). At no point did I ever consider SuSE... > > Does anybody know why they have a large market penetration in Europe? Did > they have better German support than other distributions, or what? > > > Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our > > bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer. > > This is so silly - to bind themselves to one importer in the days where > shipping a CD from abroad is only about $5... The first distribution I > ever bought (as opposed to downloading for free) was Redhat 6.1, which > I bought from cheapbytes - I got 4 copies, at 20 shekels each (including > shipment and everything). No wonder people hesitate paying $130 (500 shekels!) > for SuSE... > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Hi, I also tried to talk to them (and I speak German !) to no avail. I told them that their local importers are doing them a dis-service. But they told me that they have long-running contracts and that's it. I don't think that the problem is political, though. I see two major problems: 1) Israel is very RedHat centric (we are s American !), therefore there are not so many (almost NIL) people who would buy SuSE 2) SuSE doesn't bother to have importers in many countries. They are just open for importers to make business with them. I imagine that the Situation in Cyprus or Poland is not much better than here. It's just our bad luck that we got an "Israeli" SuSE importer. Also, note that $130 seems pretty close to the SuSE price if you would order from them directly (from Germany). I once ordered a package directly from them for my work and it was all very well, except the 60 DM shipping cost. Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > 1. You can import it from Linux Central = $130 inc. S&H. > 2. I wrote to SuSE at length about the problem. The results vary from pathetic > to (null). I even offered to take over the local distribution myself. I doubt if > I could do it worse than PF1/Rel. > 3. I think that the problem is partly political - not Linus style, I mean us vs > the world political. > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > And, > > > > complain to SuSE about the lousy service their local reps give ! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Schlomo Schapiro > > > >--- > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://www.schapiro.org > > > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > > > > >>Hi! > >> > >>Where can you get a SuSE 7.3 Pro in Israel? (REL and/or PF1 are still flogging > >>7.1!!!) > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Dan Feiglin > >> > >>Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Hi Friends, > >>> > >>>FYI you can find SuSE7.3 (i386) and the SuSE7.3 live evaluation ISO for > >>>download on my server: ftp://schapiro.org/pub > >>> > >>>Sincerely, > >>> > >>>Schlomo Schapiro > >>> > >>>--- > >>>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>WWW: http://www.schapiro.org > >>> > >>> > >>>= > >>>To unsubscribe,send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >>>the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >>>echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Local SuSE mirror
Hi, you get only the live-eval as ISO. Full install is only via ftp. If you need you can visit me with a hard disk and copy it over. It's less than 5G I think. Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > Is SuSE releasing also SuSE 7.3 ISO's as free? (not the live evaluation) or > only the full directory? (which requites to download it entirely or install > through floppy if you have live connection to the net) > > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 09:07 pm, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > Hi Friends, > > > > FYI you can find SuSE7.3 (i386) and the SuSE7.3 live evaluation ISO for > > download on my server: ftp://schapiro.org/pub > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Schlomo Schapiro > > > >--- > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW:http://www.schapiro.org > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Hetz Ben Hamo > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Local SuSE mirror
Hi Friends, FYI you can find SuSE7.3 (i386) and the SuSE7.3 live evaluation ISO for download on my server: ftp://schapiro.org/pub Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree86 4.1.0 & ATI Radeon VE
Hi, I got one of those new Radeon VE DDR 32MB cards. X seems to detect it fine, but it has a lot of unresolved symbols in radeon_drv.o (and of course the screen stays blank). I searched google, sdb etc. but found only others who complained about the same thing. Does anybody know about a solution ? Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Chips and Technologies" (formerly Asiliant Technologies) 69030- any experience ?
I got this too and a lot of trouble. Currently there is only a FB driver for the kernel downloadable from http://www.humboldt.co.uk Schlomo On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Iftach Hyams wrote: > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Status8.html#8 does not mention this > specific chip. I will appriciate any comments, especiasly about > 3D acceleration & OpenGL (if any). > > > Tnx. > > > > > This e-mail message has been sent by Elbit Systems Ltd. and is for the > use of the intended recipients only. The message may contain information > that is privileged or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient > you are hereby notified that any use, distribution or copying of this > communication is strictly prohibited, and you are requested to delete the > e-mail and any attachments and notify the sender immediately. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
I actually meant functions like ftell which return the position. If the function returns a 64bit integer but the programmer uses a 32bit integer this shouldn't work -- unless the compiler silently upgrades all 32bit integers ? Schlomo On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 10:35:26AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > That's what I mean. If you don't use 64bit variables you can't use the > > long file stuff because then you would try to use 32bit variables in 64bit > > functions. > > > > Or do the flags (__*) also change the internal type of longint ? > > It's all described in my previous message. The aforementioned flags change > the file handling interface, so fseeko for example is passed with a 64 bit > offset in a transparent manner. The user doesn't have to know anything about > the change. When I call fseek(somefile, 0xfff023, SEEK_SET) using the new > interface, the offset argument is 64 bits in size, not 32 bits. Obviously, > this is fully backwards compatible, since 64 bits may contain 32 bits. > > Regards, Yotam Rubin > > > > > Schlomo > > > > > > > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:02:25AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > but don't you also have to use 64bit file position variables ? I always > > > > thought the 2G limit was due to the 32bit integer variable. What is the > > > > solution to this problem ? > > > > > > Yes, the size of the offset variable is increased to 64 bits, this is done > > > transparently. When _FILE_OFFSET_BITS is set to 64, your regular file handling > > > interface is replaced with the 64 bit counterpart; e.g., a call to fseeko() is > > > really a call for fseeko64(). The old interface becomes a reference to the new > > > one. As you can see in /usr/include/stdio.h, fseeko64() accepts an > > > __off64_t variable as its offset value, whose size is 64 bits. > > > > > > Hope This Helps, Yotam Rubin > > > > > > > > > > > Schlomo > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics > > > > > > of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an > > > > > > application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and > > > > > > _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. > > > > > > > > > > Yup. Recompiled my 2-gig-file-creation test proggie with these defines - > > > > > and it works like charm. I'm off to recompile Samba. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!!! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---= Miki Shapiro =-- > > > > > ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = > > > > > ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- > > > > >---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > "If at first you don't succeed... > > > > > .. Skydiving is probbably not for you." > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:44:45AM +0200, Miki Shapiro wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I must have missed something: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SuSE Linux 7.0 > > > > > > > Custom-tailored 2.4.9 kernel > > > > > > > Absolutely latest reiserfs binaries (from yesterday - the 3.x... version) > > > > > > > shell-limit (limit/unlimit) filesize removed > > > > > > > If it matters, the partition was created by the new mkreiserfs util. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there ***ANY*** document at all that thoroughly explains how to make > > > > > > > a system compliant with 2+gig files (unlike what's on www.suse.de which > > > > > > > explains which version of SuSE I need to run with it's default kernel for > > > > > > > it to work). I didn't find scra
Re: Ethernet NIC - half, full duplex or auto?
Hi, eepro100-diag and mii-diag would be your friend. You can find it on http://www.scyld.com/diag/ amongst other NIC-related goodies Schlomo On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Evgeny Popov wrote: > Hello, > I did not find a way to know in what mode my NICs are: full/half duplex or > auto, 10 mbs or 100. > > The next question is: how I can change the things > > Sending to appropriate RTFM is great (please, not man ifconfig). > > > We have multihomed (3 x eepro100) RH62 with a lot of collisions on all NICs, > checking the NIC's modes is the most obvious thing. > > Best Regards, > Evgeny Popov > Publicom Ltd. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >** > The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. > It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. > If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the > sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. > > ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** > >** > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
That's what I mean. If you don't use 64bit variables you can't use the long file stuff because then you would try to use 32bit variables in 64bit functions. Or do the flags (__*) also change the internal type of longint ? Schlomo On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 08:02:25AM +0200, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > Hi, > > > > but don't you also have to use 64bit file position variables ? I always > > thought the 2G limit was due to the 32bit integer variable. What is the > > solution to this problem ? > > Yes, the size of the offset variable is increased to 64 bits, this is done > transparently. When _FILE_OFFSET_BITS is set to 64, your regular file handling > interface is replaced with the 64 bit counterpart; e.g., a call to fseeko() is > really a call for fseeko64(). The old interface becomes a reference to the new > one. As you can see in /usr/include/stdio.h, fseeko64() accepts an > __off64_t variable as its offset value, whose size is 64 bits. > > Hope This Helps, Yotam Rubin > > > > > Schlomo > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: > > > > > > Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics > > > > of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an > > > > application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and > > > > _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. > > > > > > Yup. Recompiled my 2-gig-file-creation test proggie with these defines - > > > and it works like charm. I'm off to recompile Samba. > > > > > > Thanks!!! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---= Miki Shapiro =-- > > > ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = > > > ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- > > >---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- > > > - > > > > > > "If at first you don't succeed... > > > .. Skydiving is probbably not for you." > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:44:45AM +0200, Miki Shapiro wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone. > > > > > > > > > > I must have missed something: > > > > > > > > > > SuSE Linux 7.0 > > > > > Custom-tailored 2.4.9 kernel > > > > > Absolutely latest reiserfs binaries (from yesterday - the 3.x... version) > > > > > shell-limit (limit/unlimit) filesize removed > > > > > If it matters, the partition was created by the new mkreiserfs util. > > > > > > > > > > Is there ***ANY*** document at all that thoroughly explains how to make > > > > > a system compliant with 2+gig files (unlike what's on www.suse.de which > > > > > explains which version of SuSE I need to run with it's default kernel for > > > > > it to work). I didn't find scratch on linuxdoc.org... > > > > > > > >Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics > > > > of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an > > > > application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and > > > > _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. > > > > > > > > Regards, Yotam Rubin > > > > > > > > > If the former is correct, where is the patch to recent 2.4.9+ kernels? > > > > > If the latter, what do I do about samba (and binutils...) > > > > > Is it something I missed altogether? > > > > > > > > > > FM's to RT would be wonderful. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > > > > > > ---= Miki Shapiro =-- > > > > > ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = > > > > > ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- > > > > >---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > "If at first you don't succeed... > > > > > .. Skydiving is probbably not for you." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > >
Re: 2Gig filesize limit problem....
Hi, but don't you also have to use 64bit file position variables ? I always thought the 2G limit was due to the 32bit integer variable. What is the solution to this problem ? Schlomo On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Miki Shapiro wrote: > > Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics > > of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an > > application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and > > _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. > > Yup. Recompiled my 2-gig-file-creation test proggie with these defines - > and it works like charm. I'm off to recompile Samba. > > Thanks!!! :-) > > > > > ---= Miki Shapiro =-- > ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = > ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- >---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- > - > > "If at first you don't succeed... > .. Skydiving is probbably not for you." > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 11:44:45AM +0200, Miki Shapiro wrote: > > > Hi everyone. > > > > > > I must have missed something: > > > > > > SuSE Linux 7.0 > > > Custom-tailored 2.4.9 kernel > > > Absolutely latest reiserfs binaries (from yesterday - the 3.x... version) > > > shell-limit (limit/unlimit) filesize removed > > > If it matters, the partition was created by the new mkreiserfs util. > > > > > > Is there ***ANY*** document at all that thoroughly explains how to make > > > a system compliant with 2+gig files (unlike what's on www.suse.de which > > > explains which version of SuSE I need to run with it's default kernel for > > > it to work). I didn't find scratch on linuxdoc.org... > > > >Your generic linux 2.4 and glibc 2.2 support LFS. What are the specifics > > of your problem? Large file support should be transparently added to an > > application provided that it is built with _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE and > > _FILE_OFFSET_BITS set to 64. > > > > Regards, Yotam Rubin > > > > > If the former is correct, where is the patch to recent 2.4.9+ kernels? > > > If the latter, what do I do about samba (and binutils...) > > > Is it something I missed altogether? > > > > > > FM's to RT would be wonderful. > > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > > > ---= Miki Shapiro =-- > > > ---= Cell: (+972)-56-322433 = > > > ---= ICQ: 3EE853 =--- > > >---= Windows Programmer in Rehab =--- > > > - > > > > > > "If at first you don't succeed... > > > .. Skydiving is probbably not for you." > > > > > > > > > = > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Senior System Administrator MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd. 24 Mishol Hadkalim St., Jerusalem, Israel Telephone: + 972-2-586-6989 Ext. 131 Mobile: + 972-55-767898 Fax:+ 972-2-586-7720 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.mobileye.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two system problems
In SuSE's admin tool YaST you can choose wether the hardware clock is set
to GMT or local time. Maybe you got this wrong ?
Alternatively make sure that your /etc/rc.config contains something like
this:
--
#
# Set to "-u" if your system clock is set to GMT, otherwise "".
#
GMT=""
#
# Timezone (e.g. CET)
# (this will set /usr/lib/zoneinfo/localtime)
#
TIMEZONE="Israel"
---
Schlomo
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > Hi folks!
> >
> > 1. I reorganised my system, splitting it into multiple mount points for logistic
> > reasons. I tried using Partiton Magic, as I usually do, but on a 30Gb drive it
> > bombed out, so there was nothing for it, but to build a new minimal system,
> > install bru (my backup choice) and restore everything with overwrite i.e. what
> > came out at the other end was (after fiddling fstab and lilo.conf), a perfect
> > working system - same as before EXCEPT ... the time (IST, local time (not GMT))
> > insists on being two hours ahead of the CMOS clock. I can only correct it per
> > boot by manually using date MMDDhhmm etc. Any ideas what might be causing this &
> > how to fix? (Env = {SuSE 7.1, kernel 2.4.9, ...}) (I tried a few other nonesense
> > settings and always get the same thing. Win 2000 works OK).
> >
>
>
>
> Doesn't the fact that Win 2000 works OK means that your CMOS time is adjusted
> to show IST?
> IIRC, this can explains your time problem: Linux is adjusted to read the CMOS
> time as UTC and thus add 2 hours when it needs to show IST.
> It could be that at least with Debian, hwclock and/or some setting for the
> boot scripts can fixed that. Probably something similar for SUSE.
> BTW: hwclock can show you the CMOS actual time. IIRC it can also set the CMOS
> time. Should help you to find the cause and fix the problem.
>
>
>
> > 2. One of the "junk" systems I put together, has a P166 + 32Mb and a "dafuk" IDE
> > primary slot (The machine originally had Win 95 on a 2Gb drive which booted OK
> > from the the second IDE slot.) With Linux, I can only boot off a floppy, since
> > lilo won't allow an IDE hard disk boot from anthing other than
> > /dev/hda. Upon examining the lilo.conf man page I found all sorts of
> > interesting tricks for remapping the IDE drive ID's: e.g.
> > disk=/dev/hdc bios=0x80
> > or
> > map-drive=0x82 to=0x80
> >
> > My root device is /dev/hdc5, and I boot from on /dev/fd0. I would like to use
> > the above disk= ... mapping. I modified lilo.conf to root, /dev/hda5, boot from
> > /dev/hda2 and put the boot sector on /dev/hda MBR. I also modified fstab to
> > reflect the new arrangement. Of coure lilo failed, because the new arrangements
> > are meaningless until I reboot, which I cannot do! What to do?
> >
> > Thanks to the people who supplied the "junk". I'm still looking for Pentium
> > stuff, MB with slot 7 or better.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Dan Feiglin
> >
> >
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Re: ld.so problem in glibc 2.2 compilation
Hi, I also tried once to upgrade my glibc. In the end I succeeded in compiling first 2.1.3 and then 2.2.2 on top of it. I used the gcc 2.95 though. I also never managed to compile and install the libstc++ My problems where also with the locale stuff and the termcap stuff so that in the end I just gave up and installed some RPMS from a newer distro... Schlomo PS: The docs are really between lousy to nonexistant for all the programs in this area (make, gcc, binutils, glibc ...) This is REALLY the bad side of Linux. On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, everybody > > Sorry if I'm not going to be _very_ specific but it's just too darn late > . :P > > Well, after fiddling around with strace and the such I reached to the > conclusion that the locale implementation in the glibc 2.1 I got with my > slackware7.0 is broken. So, I decided to compile glibc 2.2 since I've read > here that it works with code compiled for glibc2.1 (read that here, i > believe). After reading the FAQ and INSTALL I understood that I have to > upgrade binutils, gcc and gnu make in order for the compilation to > work. > Well, I hit the road and got all of those. compiled GCC 2.95.3 right over > the previous 2.92.something and so did with gmake and ld .. Note that I > had to specify --prefix=/usr in each of those to overwrite the previous > versions since I wanted to save myself the trouble of symlinking and > reconfiguring stuff I didn't even know existed to use the new > compilations. > Now, everything compiled just great, and I recompiled that 2.4.3 kernel I > got today as well to check that everything works, and even got a kernel > smaller by 50KB or so .. they obviously did some optimization with gcc :P > > Anyway .. now I went to compile that monstrous glibc .. I told the > configure script to install in /usr and overwrite previous stuff, include > the "locale" and "linuxthreads" addons and with kernel 2.4.3 in mind also > giving it the include dir of the kernel. The script was happy with most of > it besides some unknown app named 'mig' it was looking for - and I wasn't > aware of its existance up to that point. I asked people around EFNet and > did a quick scan through my system and through freshmeat to find nothing > of slight resemblance to what the configure script was looking for. Does > any of you? > But that's not the major issue, since configure "swallowed" its abscense > and continued .. with giving me some warning about the locale addon being > unconfigured even though the README insists I have to configure it after > installation .. > The compilation went fine for a while until the following error appeared: > > ) > /tmp/glibc/build/sysd-versionsT > no versions defined for ld.so > cpp: output pipe has been closed > make[1]: *** [/tmp/glibc/build/sysd-versions] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/glibc/glibc-2.2.2' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > since I remembered I just compiled binutils I went to check the docs > there. NO DOCS. hmpf! I tried running the glibc configure script again and > exlicitly specifiyng the binutils (ld) prefix, but it didn't work. since I > have only the slightest idea about ld.so and ld\binutils in general (care > to explain it to me?) there wasn't much I could do .. the ld.so manpage > made things clearer to some extent .. and i did found ld.so and ld-linux > in /lib: > > 76364 Sep 101999 ld-2.1.2.so > 17 Mar 18 19:52 ld-linux.so.1 ->ld-linux.so.1.9.9 > 79508 Jun 261999 ld-linux.so.1.9.9 > 11 Mar 18 19:52 ld-linux.so.2 ->ld-2.1.2.so > 104060 Jun 261999 ld.so > > but couldn't find and occurances of it in /usr/lib, (I installed binutils > with the /usr prefix). > I am totally stuck, and as the average linux\unix guru would probably > notice by now my approach is totally intuitive since my knowledge is near > to nil in whatever I was attempted to do. Would anyone bother and generate > a lenghty reply which would be both informative , constructive and help me > actually COMPILE the goddamn library? :P > > Thankyou! > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SuSE ISO mirror / What is Live/Evaluation
Hi, in SuSE 6.3 Live means that you boot the computer from CD and get a working Linux without anything configured. Great as a rescue disc or as a complete (compilers, man pages, docs ...) Linux on the way. for SuSE 6.3 there is also an Evaluation CD, this is just a single CD install, meaning the usual SuSE but with much less packages. for 7.1 they changed the system. Now the CD boots into the SuSE setup program (YaST2) after creating a 100MB big file on your harddisk as /home (This file is created in the existing filesystem, so that nothing gets destroyed). After that it configures the computer (sound,net,X,input devs ..) and you get a properly configured SuSE Linux which runs from the CD. Because of the file on the disk the settings and /home are persistant so that you can reboot the computer and return to the SuSE (if the CD is in) or just work with whatever was there before. This also has full compilers and libraries, docs, servers etc. It also comes with XFree 4.0.2 and KDE 2.0.1 so it's a great tool to check wether XFree supports a video card or to show off KDE to non-Linuxers or to have your normal Linux environment available on computers not your own. Unfortunately the 7.1 Live doesn't allow you to boot into the rescue mode, which is a pity since 7.1 comes with a recent kernel and reiser etc. Schlomo On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Oren Held wrote: > Hi Scholomo > > Can you please tell me what 'live-evaluation' is ? > Is it live, or evaluation ? :) > > Thanks, > Oren. > > On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > on ftp://clerk.pi.huji.ac.il you can find SuSE 6.3 and 7.0 FTP version and > > the 6.3 and 7.1 live/evaluation CD images. > > > > The 7.1 ISO is not compressed because it contains a compressed disk image. > > > > This is an unofficial semi-mirror for my private usage, but feel free to > > use it, too. Please don't spread this URL outside of Israel, though, since > > I don't want to put too much strain on the Univeristies resources. > > > > Sincerely > > > > PS: The files offered on clerk.pi.huji.ac.il are not under the > > responsibility and not related to HUJI. > > > > -- > > Schlomo Schapiro > > Computation Authority > > Hebrew University of Jerusalem > > > > Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > > Fax: 65-27349 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > > > > > > ========= > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Garbage in your mail (fwd)
Yes, it DOES solve my "problem", though the fixing had to be done at Shlomo's (Solomon) place (though pine IS buggy if it let's itself be disturbed). Anyway, I am amazed how he could work at all without a valid localtime file !!! Schlomo On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Of course, I know I can see my own headers, but, only after I send the message, > so the question was necesary - In any case, thanks for the help - I hope this > solves Schlomo Schapiro's problem. > > > On 19-Mar-2001 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Look fine here,but you can see for yourself (look at the Date: field in > > your message's headers). > > > > I attach your message. > > > > -- > > Tzafrir Cohen > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir > > //- > Shlomo Solomon > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://come.to/shlomo.solomon > Date: 19-Mar-2001 Time: 20:13:45 > > Message sent by XFMail on a LINUX Mandrake 7.2 machine > //- > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SuSE ISO mirror
Hi, on ftp://clerk.pi.huji.ac.il you can find SuSE 6.3 and 7.0 FTP version and the 6.3 and 7.1 live/evaluation CD images. The 7.1 ISO is not compressed because it contains a compressed disk image. This is an unofficial semi-mirror for my private usage, but feel free to use it, too. Please don't spread this URL outside of Israel, though, since I don't want to put too much strain on the Univeristies resources. Sincerely PS: The files offered on clerk.pi.huji.ac.il are not under the responsibility and not related to HUJI. -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: can't install SUSE 7.1
Get a 2nd computer. Or run NT inside of VMWare running on Linux (supposed
to work faster that way, anyway).
Schlomo
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Felix Shvaiger wrote:
> Hi.
>
> But how I will run it inside VMWare then ?
> I need both (NT AND Linux) systems running simultaneous.
> And NT is Master.
> Is there another way to do this ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Schlomo Schapiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:07 AM
> To: Felix Shvaiger
> Cc: Israeli Linux users list
> Subject: Re: can't install SUSE 7.1
>
>
> Hi,
>
> try installing it on the Laptop outside of VMWare. It won't touch your
> installed system ("LIVE-Evaluation") except toput a 100MB file for your
> home dir.
>
> Actually, the SuSE Live CDs are a great piece of Linux to show off to
> people :-)
>
> Schlomo
>
> PS: Maybe it's a VMWare problem ?
>
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Felix Shvaiger wrote:
>
> > Hi, All.
> >
> > The configuration is:
> > Toshiba Tecra 8100 laptop
> > Pentium III 700MHz
> > 256M RAM
> > S3 Savage/MX
> > Windows NT 4
> > VmWare 2.0.2
> >
> > I try to install from CD (burned from
> >
> http://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/suse/suse/i386/live-eval-7.1/liv
> > eeval_en.iso)
> > It hangs after
> > >>> SuSE Linux 7.1 LiveEval <<<
> > ...Bla...Bla...Bla...
> >
> > boot:
> > Loading initrd...
> >
> > Have someone any experience with it ?
> > Any suggestion ?
> >
> > On another computer (desktop, without VnWare) it works
> >
> > =
> > Felix A. Shvaiger
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > =
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> >
>
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> Hebrew University of Jerusalem
>
> Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404
> Fax: 65-27349
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> WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro
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Re: Garbage in your mail
No, the garbage is still there ! Schlomo PS: Try to send a mail from ANOTHER mail program, just to check the other parts of your setup. Schlomo On Sun, 18 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > before running timeconfig: > > [root@shlomo1 /etc]# ls -la loc* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Mar 8 17:08 localtime -> > /usr/share/zoneinfo/[No selection > > > after running timeconfig: > > [root@shlomo1 /etc]# ls -la loc* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 803 Mar 18 23:58 localtime > [root@shlomo1 /etc]# > > > > Is the garbage gone from the header? > > > > > > > On 18-Mar-2001 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Does /etc/localtime exist on your system? > > > > /etc/localtime should be the timezoneinformation. It is ususally a > > soft/hard link to a file under /usr/share/zone > > (I think on redhats it is not a soft link to assure that it will remain > > valid even if /usr is a seperate paritition and only / is mounted) > > > > If it does not exist, either create the link yourself (to > > /usr/share/zone/Asia/Jerusalem > > > > or use timeconfig (applicable for redhat and mandrake. Other distros have > > their own tools, probably). > > > > //- > Shlomo Solomon > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://come.to/shlomo.solomon > Date: 18-Mar-2001 Time: 21:59:12 > > Message sent by XFMail on a LINUX Mandrake 7.2 machine > //- > > ===== > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't install SUSE 7.1
Hi,
try installing it on the Laptop outside of VMWare. It won't touch your
installed system ("LIVE-Evaluation") except to put a 100MB file for your
home dir.
Actually, the SuSE Live CDs are a great piece of Linux to show off to
people :-)
Schlomo
PS: Maybe it's a VMWare problem ?
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Felix Shvaiger wrote:
> Hi, All.
>
> The configuration is:
> Toshiba Tecra 8100 laptop
> Pentium III 700MHz
> 256M RAM
> S3 Savage/MX
> Windows NT 4
> VmWare 2.0.2
>
> I try to install from CD (burned from
> http://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/suse/suse/i386/live-eval-7.1/liv
> eeval_en.iso)
> It hangs after
> >>> SuSE Linux 7.1 LiveEval <<<
> ...Bla...Bla...Bla...
>
> boot:
> Loading initrd...
>
> Have someone any experience with it ?
> Any suggestion ?
>
> On another computer (desktop, without VnWare) it works
>
> =
> Felix A. Shvaiger
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> =
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> the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command
> echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: MDK7.2, KDE2.1 & Hebrew (Was: Re: Konqueror and Walla)
Hi, You mean you didn't do a rpm -U on all the KDE2.1 RPMs ? How did you uninstall KDE2 from MDK7.2 ? Didn't you have any trouble using your KDE2.0 settings on 2.1 ? Schlomo On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Well, I it for sure wasn't MDK8.0 files since I d/l'ed them from > > ftp.kde.org/pub//2.1//Mandrake/7.2/... > > (the exact URL was on the list some mails earlier today). > > > > I didn't check wipingmy config (~/.kde), I'll try this maybe. > > Luckily I did a backup before installing the update :-) > > > > But, did ANYBODY succeed in upgrading MDK7.2 to KDE2.1 ?? If yes, how ? > > > > I did it, and it works perfectly for me. AFAIR I just uninstalled and > installed the various RPMs. That's all there was to it. > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > > Schlomo > > > > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I d/l'ed and installed the KDE 2.1 MDK RPMs on a fresh MDK7.2 (rpm -U) and > > > > it completely destroyed my MDK installation. > > > > > > > > * KDM looked different, probably the 2.1 one didn't use the Mandrake > > > > config files > > > > > > Or maybe it uses the MDK8.0 config files :( > > > > > > > * Nothing worked inside of KDE, I only got many many error messages about > > > > missing somethings which looked like a mimetype on io* stuff > > > > > > > > It seems like the MDK RPMs where not made by MDK and where not adapted to > > > > the distro at all. > > > > > > > > So, does anybody know how to upgrade smoothly MDK7.2 to KDE2.1 ? (Without > > > > busting the setups) ? > > > > > > I haven't tested it myself, but one suggestion: > > > > > > Maybe it is a clash between your user config file and the system config? > > > > > > To check that, add a new user, and login with it. Try to see if the > > > desktop now looks sane. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Schlomo Schapiro > > Computation Authority > > Hebrew University of Jerusalem > > > > Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > > Fax: 65-27349 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > > > > > > ===== > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ > Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The prefix "God Said" has the extraordinary logical property of > converting any statement that follows it into a true one. > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MDK7.2, KDE2.1 & Hebrew (Was: Re: Konqueror and Walla)
Well, I it for sure wasn't MDK8.0 files since I d/l'ed them from ftp.kde.org/pub//2.1//Mandrake/7.2/... (the exact URL was on the list some mails earlier today). I didn't check wiping my config (~/.kde), I'll try this maybe. Luckily I did a backup before installing the update :-) But, did ANYBODY succeed in upgrading MDK7.2 to KDE2.1 ?? If yes, how ? Schlomo On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I d/l'ed and installed the KDE 2.1 MDK RPMs on a fresh MDK7.2 (rpm -U) and > > it completely destroyed my MDK installation. > > > > * KDM looked different, probably the 2.1 one didn't use the Mandrake > > config files > > Or maybe it uses the MDK8.0 config files :( > > > * Nothing worked inside of KDE, I only got many many error messages about > > missing somethings which looked like a mimetype on io* stuff > > > > It seems like the MDK RPMs where not made by MDK and where not adapted to > > the distro at all. > > > > So, does anybody know how to upgrade smoothly MDK7.2 to KDE2.1 ? (Without > > busting the setups) ? > > I haven't tested it myself, but one suggestion: > > Maybe it is a clash between your user config file and the system config? > > To check that, add a new user, and login with it. Try to see if the > desktop now looks sane. > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDK7.2, KDE2.1 & Hebrew (Was: Re: Konqueror and Walla)
Hi, I d/l'ed and installed the KDE 2.1 MDK RPMs on a fresh MDK7.2 (rpm -U) and it completely destroyed my MDK installation. * KDM looked different, probably the 2.1 one didn't use the Mandrake config files * Nothing worked inside of KDE, I only got many many error messages about missing somethings which looked like a mimetype on io* stuff It seems like the MDK RPMs where not made by MDK and where not adapted to the distro at all. So, does anybody know how to upgrade smoothly MDK7.2 to KDE2.1 ? (Without busting the setups) ? And, even though I chose Hebrew during all stages of the install (where it asked for languages), I don't get the Hebrew keyboard in KDE. Any ideas ? Schlomo On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Which RPM's do you use? which distribution? > > I have checked the RPM's for RH 6.x and 7.x personally before they were > released to the public on many Israeli web sites (Walla, Tapuz, ynet, IOL, > Globes) and it was perfectly. > > On the other hand - Mandrake RPM's for KDE got already a reputation among KDE > users and developers that they are completly crap (there are tons of bugs > that appear only with Mandrake RPM's), but to tell the truth - I haven't seen > any bugs about their latest 2.1 RPM's.. > > Hetz > > On Friday 16 March 2001 10:07, Alon Altman wrote: > > Hi, > > Anybody knows why konqueror crashes whenever I enter a walla site (such > > as news.walla.co.il or orange.walla.co.il) ? > > > > Alon > > > > - if you cut here, you'll probably destroy your monitor -- > > This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 > > The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) > > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ===== > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Garbage in your mail
Hi, you persistently send garbage in your email headers: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:20:29 -=?us-ascii?Q?_(/etc/localtime=EF=EE=18@=05?= Somehow this garbage causes my Pine (4.21_heb2.08) to go into a loop replying to this mail. While this is for sure also a pine bug, this is even more a bug of your email system. PLEASE fix it !! Sincerely, Schlomo On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just checked and mine also crashes on those sites - Mandrake 7.2 - KDE 2.0 - > Konqueror 1.9.8. Strange since I haven't had problems with Konwueror and tied > these sites only after reading your message. > > On 16-Mar-2001 Alon Altman wrote: > > Hi, > > I use Konqueror of KDE 2.01, I couldn't install KDE 2.1 correctly on my > > Mandrake 7.2. All apps immediately crashed when loaded after I installed > > RedHat RPMs. > > > > Alon > > > > On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Alon Altman wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > Anybody knows why konqueror crashes whenever I enter a walla site (such > >> > as > >> > news.walla.co.il or orange.walla.co.il) ? > >> > > >> > Alon > >> > > >> > >> Do you use the Konquerer that ships with KDE 2.1?Maybe that bug was fixed > >> there. Or else: compile it from the source with debugging symbols and run > >> it under gdb. ;-) > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >>Shlomi Fish > > > >> Hello Alon > >> > >> Mine works great.. do u use the konqueror that come with 2.1 ? > >> > >> Cya, > >> Oren. > > > > - if you cut here, you'll probably destroy your monitor -- > > This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 > > The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) > > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > //- > Shlomo Solomon > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://come.to/shlomo.solomon > Date: 16-Mar-2001 Time: 15:47:27 > > Message sent by XFMail on a LINUX Mandrake 7.2 machine > //- > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netvision NNTP Server
Why not use ntp.ac.il or ntp.huji.ac.il ? Schlomo On 14 Mar 2001, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > Hi. > > I suppose this is somewhat OT, but none the less > > > Does anyone out there use Netvision's NNTP server > (news.netvision.net.il) ? > > I have been using it for quite a while, but in the past few days it > has become WAY out of date - basically no updates for three days. > > I talked to their technical staff, but got nothing but B.S. (shtuot - > for you Hebrew speakers ;-) . > > I was just wondering if anyone else has any experience with them ? > > TIA. > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGLU Plea for Hard Disks Donation
Besides, what is the Internet connection of the IGLU server ? On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Reuven M. Lerner wrote: > I'm delighted to know that IGLU is going to provide local (Israeli) > mirrors of a lot of free software. > > But as the owner of a company that might be interested in helping out, > I have to ask: If I donate a hard disk to IGLU, to whom am I actually > donating that disk? > > In other words, is IGLU planning to become an amuta at some point?Or > will the hard disk remain the property of my company, simply located > in a convenient place for Israeli Linux users?Or will my company be > giving a donation to anindividual (which has tax implications for > everyone)? > > I know that these are unpleasant bureaucratic issues to raise, but > that's the unfortunate implication of mixing business with > pleasure... > > Reuven > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: partition Magic to Linux
But why would you ever want to create a bitmap image of your harddisk ? Just make a tar.bz2 archive from it and you wille ven save a lot of space (namely all the free space on the source disk). Unlike Windows or NT, there is absolutely no added value to keeping the harddisk as a bitmap image. In any case you'll have to re-run lilo (or similars) after restoring and in any case you should keep a rescue linux handy. Just MHO Schlomo On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote: > Hello, > You downloaded partition magic for Linux just to clone a partition? > That could have been done easily with dd: dd if=/dev/hd?? of=/tmp/image.hd?? > This will create you an exact copy of the partition and place it in /tmp. > As for the size of your newly created image, it should take 600 MB in addition > to a few bytes which contain filesystem dependent information (Permissions...) > > > Regards, Yotam Rubin > > > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:35:32AM +0200, Eran Levy wrote: > > Hi, > > I have downloadedpartition magic for linux to make an image backup to my > > FileSystems.If I have 600MB and I image them, what will be the MBs of the > > image? > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make dep on kernel 2.4.2 gets stuck
Hi, No, of course not RH (I never used RH). It's my good old SuSE 6.0 hand-patched to newer versions. Anyway, last night I downgraded the glibc to 2.1.3 and tried again. make is version 3.79 (the latest). Now make dep fails after the ext2 seemingly when making dep on fat: make -C ext2 fastdep make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs/ext2' /usr/src/linux/scripts/mkdep acl.c balloc.c bitmap.c dir.c file.c fsync.c ialloc.c inode.c ioctl.c namei.c super.c symlink.c > .depend make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs/ext2' make -C fat fastdep make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs/fat' make[4]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'. Stop. make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs/fat' make[3]: *** [_sfdep_fat] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs' make[2]: *** [fastdep] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs' make[1]: *** [_sfdep_fs] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 My relevant .config entries are like this: # File systems # # CONFIG_QUOTA is not set CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS=m CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS=m CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set # CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_BFS_FS is not set CONFIG_FAT_FS=m CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m # CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m # CONFIG_EFS_FS is not set CONFIG_JFFS_FS_VERBOSE=0 CONFIG_CRAMFS=m CONFIG_RAMFS=m CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=y CONFIG_JOLIET=y CONFIG_MINIX_FS=m which seems 100% normal for me. Any ideas ? Schlomo PS: The previous problem might be related to my games with glibc versions etc. I think I solved them now since now make fails with a proper error message instead of just getting stuck. Btw, my tmp usually has several G free so I don't expect a problem there anytime soon. On 6 Mar 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Schlomo Schapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am trying to compile kernel 2.4.2 and make dep gets stuck > > <...snip...> > > > (glibc 2.2.1/gcc 2.95.2) > > RH7? > > Have you tried upgrading gcc to gcc-2.96-69/glibc-2.2-12 (see errata)? > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make dep on kernel 2.4.2 gets stuck
Hi, I am trying to compile kernel 2.4.2 and make dep gets stuck with this beeing the last thing it says: make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs/ext2' /usr/src/linux/scripts/mkdep acl.c balloc.c bitmap.c dir.c file.c fsync.c ialloc.c inode.c ioctl.c namei.c super.c symlink.c > .depend make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/fs/ext2' make -C fat fastdep Any ideas ? (glibc 2.2.1/gcc 2.95.2) -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xauthority question
Hi, I start my su like this and it works well: su -c "cd ; xterm -ls -T Root -n Root -fn 10x20 &"' I ran into the problem after I started to work with SSH and X forwarding, a combination which is also quite strict about X access rights. Schlomo On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Hi > > I would like to run some X apps from a 'su -' shell xterm. > > I used to use the following trick to save myself the need of messing with > xauth: > > in the root shell I set: > > DISPLAY=:0.0 > XAUTHORITY=/home/tzafrir/.Xauthrity > > (since root can read the user's home directory) > > However, this doesn't work anymore. Any idea if there is any way to make > it work? > > If not, can anybody give me the required xauth commands? (Yes, I tried the > man page, but I didn't fully understand it). > > Thanks > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid configuration
Hi, while I got many good ideas from linux-il I had a chat with the HUJI-CC Unix boss. He tells me that they configured their squid so that it won't talk to other, unspecified, squids and that's why it doesn't work. He also tells that this is not related to ICP, but that a squid proxy doesn't talk to a parent proxy via HTTP but rather through some other protocol which he blocked. Is this true, does squid really not use HTTP to talk to the parent proxy ? Or, in other words, can a squid proxy tell wether a request comes from a web-browser or andother squid ? Schlomo PS: Related, does anybody have good experience with Apache as caching proxy ? On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Eric Wolf wrote: > What you need is a line that says : > > never_direct allow all > > to route all requests to the default parent > > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ely Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Alex Shnitman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Linux-IL Mailing List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 7:21 PM > Subject: Re: Squid configuration > > > > Well, > > > > it tries to connect and I see with netstat that it connects and nothing > > happens.just like this. After several minutes it returns the error > > message to the browser. > > > > Schlomo > > > > > >On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > > > > > it does actually and even if it didnt' still no reason why the proxy > > > wouldn't work Schlomo what exaclly doesn't work means?:) > > > look at the logs do you see an error there? > > > > > > Ely Levy > > > System group > > > Hebrew University > > > Jerusalem Israel > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Alex Shnitman wrote: > > > > > > |Hi, Schlomo! > > > | > > > |On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:35:05PM +0200, you wrote the following: > > > | > > > |> I am having trouble to setup squid to use my ISPs proxy. I seem to > set it > > > |> up correctly as > > > |> cache_peer wwwproxy.huji.ac.il parent 8080 3130 default no-query > no-digest > > > |> but it just doesn't work. It seems like my squid can't talk to the > parent > > > |> squid, it just waits a lot and then returns a connection timed out. > > > | > > > |Are you sure that the HUJI proxy has ICP enabled? The inter-proxy > > > |communications aren't done through the regular 8080 port, but through > > > |a special protocol which has to be enabled. Read the Squid docs. > > > | > > > | > > > |-- > > > |Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org > > > |[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- > > > |http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page > > > | E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA > > > | > > > |An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than a > cabbage, > > > |concludes that it will also make better soup. > > > | -- H. L. Mencken > > > | > > > |= > > > |To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > |the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > |echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > | > > > | > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > > Schlomo Schapiro > > Computation Authority > > Hebrew University of Jerusalem > > > > Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > > Fax: 65-27349 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUSE 7.1
Why, I think the best way to use the commercial distros is to start with them and slowly replacing stuff with your own. Just do an rpm -e before you make install and your on your own from a good base. Schlomo On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Oren Held wrote: > Hello Noam > > I didn't even know it's out.. hmmm.. the just cause me hate them.. > I really want to move to deb/slack.. > > I think I'll do it in my next vacation. I'm not having fun using such a > commercial distro. > > Cya, > Oren. > > On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Noam Meltzer wrote: > > > Does any1 has this new release of SuSE? I would like to get a copy of > > it, if it's possible. Suse, like in their last release doesn't hurry to > > put an ISO out for download. > > -- > > Noam Meltzer > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ICQ: 4853872 > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to buy to a suse dist
I'll be in Germany in April 2001. If anyone wants to place an order for SuSE stuff, I'll be happy to bring them along. Schlomo On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Renaissance Electronics Ltd., > www.rel.co.il > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (09) 7643567 > Somewhere in Kfar Saba > > I got my 7.0 version from Bug (Kanyon Ayalon), and it had their contact card > inside the box. > BTW, they are rip off merchants. I normally buy fromoverseas. > > Hey, what about a few of us SuSE fans getting together to do a bulk buy at a > **reasonable** price? > > > Valdemar Lemche wrote: > > > I know this is a silly question, but I since I'm new in Israel (I came here > > just to months ago), I haven't got a clue as to where I can buy a Suse > > distribution. Best would be somewhere between Netanya or Tel Aviv. So any > > suggestions would be appreciated. > > > > --- Mfg. Regards, Mvh. > > Valdemar Lemche > > > > 3A Bialik > > 60920, Kadima > > Postbox 3812 > >Israel > > > > Phone: +972 9 8911358 > > FAX: +972 9 8919882 > > ICQ#:28884381 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > "Crash Tip: Install more RAM. Yeah everybody says it, but it's true. If you > > can't stop buggy programs from leaking memory, you can at least give them > > more memory to leak. How much RAM do you need? According to scientific > > survey > > of experts, you always need n + 16 MB, where n equals the amount of RAM you > > have now." - BYTE - Vol 23, 4 "Crash-Proof Computing" > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glibc 2.2.1 compile problem
Hi, I am trying to compile glibc 2.2.1 and it fails with this: 8<- In file included from ../include/bits/posix2_lim.h:1, from ../include/limits.h:148, from ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sys/param.h:22, from memusagestat.c:33: ./posix/bits/posix2_lim.h:93: warning: `RE_DUP_MAX' redefined /usr/include/posix2_lim.h:91: warning: this is the location of the previous definition rm -f /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/mtrace.new sed -e 's|@PERL@|/usr/bin/perl|' -e 's|@XXX@|10|' \ -e 's|@VERSION@|2.2.1|' mtrace.pl > /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/mtrace.new \ && rm -f /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/mtrace && mv /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/mtrace.new /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/mtrace && chmod +x /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/mtrace gcc -o /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/memusagestat /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/memusagestat.o -lgd -lpng -lz -lm /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/memusagestat.o: In function `main': /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-2.2.1/malloc/memusagestat.c:138: undefined reference to `argp_parse' /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-2.2.1/malloc/memusagestat.c:142: undefined reference to `argp_help' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-build/malloc/memusagestat] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-2.2.1/malloc' make[1]: *** [malloc/others] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/SOURCES/glibc-2.2.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 >8-------- Any ideas ? Also, why would malloc need the GD library ??? Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid configuration
I don't think since if I set on my squid machine the proxy to said ISPs proxy and surf it works well. This means there there is no problem to connect from my machine to the proxy server. Schlomo On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Henry Fischer wrote: > Could it be that a firewall is blocking incomming contections to either > the port or the protocol used? > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Yes, no errors reported. I tried to increase debugging, but didn't get > > anything more. > > > > It seems for me like if my squid can't talk to the HUJI-CCs squid ?? > > > > Schlomo > > > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > > > >> did you look at the logs for errors? > >> > >> > >> Ely Levy > >> System group > >> Hebrew University > >> Jerusalem Israel > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > >> > >> |Well, > >> | > >> |it tries to connect and I see with netstat that it connects and nothing > >> |happens. just like this. After several minutes it returns the error > >> |message to the browser. > >> | > >> |Schlomo > >> | > >> | > >> | On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > >> | > >> |> it does actually and even if it didnt' still no reason why the proxy > >> |> wouldn't work Schlomo what exaclly doesn't work means?:) > >> |> look at the logs do you see an error there? > >> |> > >> |> Ely Levy > >> |> System group > >> |> Hebrew University > >> |> Jerusalem Israel > >> |> > >> |> > >> |> > >> |> On Sun, 25Feb 2001, Alex Shnitman wrote: > >> | > > >> |> |Hi, Schlomo! > >> |> | > >> |> |On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:35:05PM +0200, you wrote the following: > >> |> | > >> |> |> I am having trouble to setup squid to use my ISPs proxy. I seem to set it > >> |> |> up correctly as > >> |> |> cache_peer wwwproxy.huji.ac.il parent 8080 3130 default no-query no-digest > >> |> |> but it just doesn't work. It seems like my squid can't talk to the parent > >> |> |> squid, it just waits a lot and then returns a connection timed out. > >> |> | > >> |> |Are you sure that the HUJI proxy has ICP enabled? The inter-proxy > >> |> |communications aren't done through the regular 8080 port, but through > >> |> |a special protocol which has to be enabled. Read the Squid docs. > >> |> | > >> |> | > >> |> |-- > >> |> |Alex Shnitman | http://www.debian.org > >> |> |[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- > >> |> |http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956 PGP key on web page > >> |> | E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA > >> |> | > >> |> |An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than a cabbage, > >> |>|concludes that it will also make better soup. > >> |> | -- H. L. Mencken > >> |> | > >> |> |===== > >> |> |To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >> |> |the word"unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >> |> |echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> |> | > >> |> | > >> |> > >> |> > >> |> = > >> |> To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >> |> the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >> |> echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> |> > >> | > >> |-- > >> |Schlomo Schapiro > >> |Computation Authority > >> |Hebrew University of Jerusalem > >> | > >> |Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > >> |Fax: 65-27349 > >> |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> |WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > >> | > >> | > >> > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: glibc 2.0.7 -> 2.2.1 upgrade stories
No, while my system is RPM based (SuSE 6.0), I use rpm mostly for rpm -e before I install a new program. I only compile stuff on that machine. The FAQ of glib said that it should work (I actually compiled a program on another machine that has glibc 2.1 and it works on my glibc 2.0 system!) and that the make install will remove the old includes. The Q was wether there are any other problems, how well does the binary compatibility work etc. Schlomo On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Oded Arbel wrote: > Its not such a problem, but it isn't trivial. > If you upgrade using RPMs, then the old include files should be removed, and > the new ones put instead - automagicly. > Now - upgrading only the glibc packages would probably coz lots of havoc, as > some RPMS really want a specific glibc version, and some (not most - just a > bit) really do need that specific version. anyway - don't forget to upgrade > your locales. I know that in my system (Mandrake 7.2) some files moved from > the glibc packages to the locales packages, and so I was missing lots of > files after just upgrading the glibc, and some programs - like perl for > example - were complaining about improper locale settings. > Anyway - after I fixed everything, I still have a problem with software that > useslibrpm - they keep complaining about missing symbols in librpm, and > crash. now I can't run MandrakeUpdate :-( but I guess that due to the fact > that I also upgraded to RPM 4 - another thing that I think one should > carefully consider before attempting. Weird though. > I think that Mandrake are planning to number their next version 8.0, and I > see no justification to that. 7.0 was a major release, signifying their > break from 100% RedHat compatibility, HFS, completely re-written installer > and lots of newadministration packages. but the next version, except for a > new kernel version, a paradigm shift in the way the configuration stuff > /looks/ under X and a new version of KDE2, I see nothing extremely new - why > would they not call it 7.3 ? > > Oded > > -- > In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an > invincible summer. > -- Albert Camus > > - Original Message - > From: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Linux-IL Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 19:24 > Subject: glibc 2.0.7 -> 2.2.1 upgrade stories > > > > Hi, > > > > I am planning to upgrade my glibc as above. According to the FAQ this > > should work and the configure told that the old glibc 2.0.x headers in > > /usr/include will be removed. > > > > Can anybody tell success/horror stories or give tips about this topic > > before I completely trash my installation ? > > > > Schlomo > > > > -- > > Schlomo Schapiro > > Computation Authority > > Hebrew University of Jerusalem > > > > Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > > Fax: 65-27349 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid configuration
Yes, no errors reported. I tried to increase debugging, but didn't get anything more. It seems for me like if my squid can't talk to the HUJI-CCs squid ?? Schlomo On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > did you look at the logs for errors? > > > Ely Levy > System group > Hebrew University > Jerusalem Israel > > > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > |Well, > | > |it tries to connect and I see with netstat that it connects and nothing > |happens. just like this. After several minutes it returns the error > |message to the browser. > | > |Schlomo > | > | > | On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > | > |> it does actually and even if it didnt' still no reason why the proxy > |> wouldn't work Schlomo what exaclly doesn't work means?:) > |> look at the logs do you see an error there? > |> > |> Ely Levy > |> System group > |> Hebrew University > |> Jerusalem Israel > |> > |> > |> > |> On Sun, 25Feb 2001, Alex Shnitman wrote: > | > > |> |Hi, Schlomo! > |> | > |> |On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:35:05PM +0200, you wrote the following: > |> | > |> |> I am having trouble to setup squid to use my ISPs proxy. I seem to set it > |> |> up correctly as > |> |> cache_peer wwwproxy.huji.ac.il parent 8080 3130 default no-query no-digest > |> |> but it just doesn't work. It seems like my squid can't talk to the parent > |> |> squid, it just waits a lot and then returns a connection timed out. > |> | > |> |Are you sure that the HUJI proxy has ICP enabled? The inter-proxy > |> |communications aren't done through the regular 8080 port, but through > |> |a special protocol which has to be enabled. Read the Squid docs. > |> | > |> | > |> |-- > |> |Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org > |> |[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- > |> |http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page > |> | E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA > |> | > |> |An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than a cabbage, > |> |concludes that it will also make better soup. > |> | -- H. L. Mencken > |> | > |> |= > |> |To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > |> |the word"unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > |> |echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> | > |> | > |> > |> > |> = > |> To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > |> the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > |> echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> > | > |-- > |Schlomo Schapiro > |Computation Authority > |Hebrew University of Jerusalem > | > |Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > |Fax: 65-27349 > |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > | > | > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
glibc 2.0.7 -> 2.2.1 upgrade stories
Hi, I am planning to upgrade my glibc as above. According to the FAQ this should work and the configure told that the old glibc 2.0.x headers in /usr/include will be removed. Can anybody tell success/horror stories or give tips about this topic before I completely trash my installation ? Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Squid configuration
Well, it tries to connect and I see with netstat that it connects and nothing happens. just like this. After several minutes it returns the error message to the browser. Schlomo On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ely Levy wrote: > it does actually and even if it didnt' still no reason why the proxy > wouldn't work Schlomo what exaclly doesn't work means?:) > look at the logs do you see an error there? > > Ely Levy > System group > Hebrew University > Jerusalem Israel > > > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Alex Shnitman wrote: > > |Hi, Schlomo! > | > |On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 12:35:05PM +0200, you wrote the following: > | > |> I am having trouble to setup squid to use my ISPs proxy. I seem to set it > |> up correctly as > |> cache_peer wwwproxy.huji.ac.il parent 8080 3130 default no-query no-digest > |> but it just doesn't work. It seems like my squid can't talk to the parent > |> squid, it just waits a lot and then returns a connection timed out. > | > |Are you sure that the HUJI proxy has ICP enabled? The inter-proxy > |communications aren't done through the regular 8080 port, but through > |a special protocol which has to be enabled. Read the Squid docs. > | > | > |-- > |Alex Shnitman | http://www.debian.org > |[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- > |http://alexsh.hectic.net UIN 188956PGP key on web page > | E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA > | > |An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than a cabbage, > |concludes that it will also make better soup. > | -- H. L. Mencken > | > |= > |To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > |the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > |echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | > > > ===== > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUSE 7.1
As soon as I can find the ISO and dirs on the net I'll make a local mirror on schapiro.org. Schlomo On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Noam Meltzer wrote: > Does any1 has this new release of SuSE? I would like to get a copy of > it, if it's possible. Suse, like in their last release doesn't hurry to > put an ISO out for download. > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Squid configuration
Hi, I am having trouble to setup squid to use my ISPs proxy. I seem to set it up correctly as cache_peer wwwproxy.huji.ac.il parent 8080 3130 default no-query no-digest but it just doesn't work. It seems like my squid can't talk to the parent squid, it just waits a lot and then returns a connection timed out. Can anybody, who uses squid to connect to their ISPs proxy, send me their squid.conf ? Any ideas ? Schlomo = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stupid Bezeq
Well, but the lo network (127.0.0.1) is usually defined with a netmask of 127.255.255.255 which would break your suggestion. Schlomo On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Joseph Teichman wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gilad Ben-Yossef" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: Stupid Bezeq > > > > Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for private > > networks, even if you get to type more numbers :-) > > If you are that lazy, use 172.16.0.0:) > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stupid Bezeq
Actually I didn't really get where the problem is. After all the private network ends at the NAT gateway and about anything outside you just don't care. If you connect to places that run a private net via some tunnel over the public IP net, then again you don't care wether part of this public IP runs over some fake nets or not since only your two gateways have to (and can) know about YOUR private nets. So, where could the private provider net possible be a problem ? Schlomo On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: > SS>> Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for > SS>> private networks, even if you get to type more numbers :-) > > Guess which address space will the second provider take? Bingo! > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stupid Bezeq
Well, now you know why it is better to pick 192.168.*.* for private networks, even if you get to type more numbers :-) Schlomo On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > > Have anyone noticed, in their hot pursuit of ADSL, how Bezeq in an > obvious ingenious fashion, > chose to make the entire 10.0.0.0/8 A class unusable for mere mortals? > > You see if you're running a private LAN, and there is any chance in the > world someone would > want to connect to it from the outside (by VPN, for example) she wont be > able to do it if she's using > Bezeq's ADSL because Bezeq chose to use 10.0.0.0/8, 10.200.1.1 and > 10.0.0.138 for the ADSL internal > addresses thus making complete mess for a whole slew of angry syadmins. > > Are we all to explainto our bosses that picking an 10.0.0.0/24 network > for the office *was* a sensible thing > to do and that Bezeq are idiots? (not me, I'm not a sysadmin no longer ;-) > > Well at least it's faster... ;-) > > > > Gilad. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
webmaster@linux.org.il completely broken
Hi Folks,
I tried to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] recently (see attached
mails) and now got them back. Looks like the setup on linux.org.il is
badly broken (judging from the reply).
I hope that the real webmasters are on the list (Alex Shnitman ?) and can
a) fix the things in the mails I sent to the webmaster (attached)
b) maybe fix linux.org.il ?
Thanks a lot,
Schlomo
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Hi,
also, in my orginial version of the consultants page I had a small intro
text which is gone now. I think it would be helpful to put back some kind
of intro text to orientate people.
Another thing, the site claims that the latest kernels are 2.2.17 and
2.4.0-test9 ...
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Hi,
Please update my entry in the consultants page - Jerusalem section as
follows:
Phone: 053-342286 (Not on Shabbat)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All other entries are OK.
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Re: Linux party in Jerusalem
I just hit reply and assume that everybody who voted for not having the reply-to field in the lists set to the list also installed the procmail hack to remove douplicate mails. I think this is a fair solution which puts the responsibility for this on the subscribers (since we couldn't agree on it for the list ...). Schlomo On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > [ something ] > > > On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Rafram Chaddad wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > please read the attached link for more details > > > http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?ro > > > otId=3744295&msg_id=3744295 > > > > > > we can use any help (installers, monitors, etc.) > > No need to cross-post this further to more than, maybe, linux-il and iglu > lists... > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux party in Jerusalem
Hi, will this be a political meeting, too ? If so, please detail the political aspects of it (After reading about reframe it seems so ). Schlomo PS: Will it be at the Hebrew University as previous meetings ? On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Rafram Chaddad wrote: > Hi, > please read the attached link for more details > http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?ro > otId=3744295&msg_id=3744295 > > we can use any help (installers, monitors, etc.) > > > Raf > > for more details, e-mail or call: > > 051-999464 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SuSE Email Server II
Hi, Nice. but how to you comine qpopper and cyrus ? cyrus keeps all data closed and locked away while qpopper expects some kind of mail folders, right ? Also, did you write an admin interface, too ? Are you making a product from this or just a custom-made solution for your place ? Schlomo On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Im in the same mud :) > i my self upgrading my mail server. > > My solution is: > > exim / qpopper, auth aginst mysql or passwd (depend on the account) + virtual > domains + cyrus IMAPD + mailman > > and the interface will be apache + php against mysql > > itsstarting to work and it look very promising, exim is so robust and > flexible you practicly can do everything :) > > check: > http://www.netd.co.za/mysql-mail/ > and > http://www.exim.org > > Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am looking for some infos about above product. Anybody tried it, > > installed it, any comments ? > > > > For interested people: > > It's a SuSE Linux with postfix, LDAP, cyrus IMAPD, Horde IMP ... > > and (best of all) an integrating Web management interface !!! for ca. $250 > > > > I amlooking into email server solutions that also have a good user > > management interface and this is one of the (seemingly) best I found till > > now. > > > > Schlomo > > > > -- > > Schlomo Schapiro > > Computation Authority > > Hebrew University of Jerusalem > > > > Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > > Fax: 65-27349 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > -- > Canaan Surfing Ltd. > Internet Service Providers > Ben-Nes Michael - Manager > Tel: 972-4-6925757 > Fax: 972-4-6925858 > http://www.canaan.co.il > -- > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SuSE Email Server II
Hi, while I might agree with you for a home system, if you have to install a production system for an office you want something that is - fast and easy to install & setup - has good support (SuSE give 2 years push updates !) - has a proper admin interface so that some looser can do simple management tasks - especially on unix it is still a major piece of work to make a whole bunch of programs work together as one (LDAP, cyrus, postfix, IMP, apache) and $250 for sure is cheaper than MY time :-) Just some reasons ... Schlomo PS: I am considering to buy this but since SuSE don't have a demo, I would like to hear s.th. about it. PPS: This is a fairly new product, btw. On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > Quoth Schlomo Schapiro on Wed, Jan 31, 2001: > > I am looking into email server solutions > > My preferred e-mail server solution is Exim.Others prefer > Postfix. > > > that also have a good user management interface > > I prefer vi as a management interface.Others prefer emacs, but > they're heretics. > > > and this is one of the (seemingly) best I found till now. > > It sounds like a good product.But somehow I don't think it will > be suitable for all environments.What are you trying to > achieve? > > Vadik. > > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SuSE Email Server II
Hi, I am looking for some infos about above product. Anybody tried it, installed it, any comments ? For interested people: It's a SuSE Linux with postfix, LDAP, cyrus IMAPD, Horde IMP ... and (best of all) an integrating Web management interface !!! for ca. $250 I am looking into email server solutions that also have a good user management interface and this is one of the (seemingly) best I found till now. Schlomo -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux-Il archives (http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/maillists)is slow only for me?
Hi, from HUJI it's nice and fast as always :-) Schlomo On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Ishai Parasol wrote: > Hi > > You're not the only one !!! > > Ishai. > > On Tuesday 30 January 2001 17:04, Shaul Karl wrote: > > I am experiencing hard times trying to get to > > http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il /Linux/maillists. > > > > It is so slow that it is almost useless. Am Ithe only one? Can something > > be done about it? > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Clock stopped
Hi, I got a Linux computer who's clock stopped ! I do "date" several times (over 5 minutes) and it shows the SAME date. Can this be ? That the kernel clock stopped ? I can execute programs etc. though some things seem strange (e.g. on the shell I get the output only when I press a key, some weird kind of delay. Anybody seen anything like this before ? Schlomo PS: Please also mail to me directly (mutt users: just hit reply all :-) PPS: It's a PIII-500/256MB RAM/ 2.2.17+ReiserFS kernel -- Schlomo Schapiro Computation Authority Hebrew University of Jerusalem Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 Fax: 65-27349 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The SMP/ReiserFS merrygo-round
I did and it works well. Schlomo Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Nir Simionovich (Rin Solo) wrote: > Hi All, > > Here's a little dozy for your troubled minds. Has anyone ever tried to > compile the 2.2.17 kernel with SMP and ReiserFS support ? if anyone > managed to do this, please repond. > > Best regards, > Nir Simionovich, GoldenLines ISP Dev. Team > SAIR/GNU Certified LCA (447614) > artNET experts Ltd. > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Private SuSE mirror in Israel available
Hi, I have a private SuSE Linux mirror in Israel (currently holds 6.3, 7.0 and demo/evaluation CDs) on a fast connection. Anybody interested in the details please mail me. I won't publish it with SuSE since I don't want to draw any unneccessary traffic. Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Serial Console
I use a DEC VT520 and put in my lilo.conf these lines append="console=ttyS1,115200n8 " serial=1,38400n8 works well and I can enter commands at the lilo prompt and see all the kernel messages. Maybe you have a problem with the config of your terminal ? That is what took most time for me. (I run SuSE, too) Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Tue, 5 Dec 2000, Alex Rier wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed Serial Console on SuSe 7 (Kernel 2.2.16) accordingly to > the Kernel doc serial-console.txt . > (I've added: > serial=0,9600n8 > ... > append="console=ttyS0,9600" > to lilo.conf and ran "lilo"). > > Problems: > 1. > When I boot the system, I get LILO prompt on the serial console > just fine. But when I try to input something to LILO it ignores > whatever I type on the serial terminal. > > 2. > When the LILO starts loading the Kernel, I don't see the Kernel > console messages. > > > Do you have an idea how to solve the problems? > > Thanks, > > Alex Rier | Tel: +972-52-442549 > Unix/Linux Consultant | FAX: +972-3-5364060 > Breakthrough Ltd. | ICQ:96993521 > http://www.breakt.co.il| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup recommendations needed.
Hi, legato on Solaris works rock-bottom stable with all OS supported at the Hebrew University. It's pricey though. You can also check Arkeia, BackupExec, TapeWare, amanda (it's free !) If you have the money, get legato for solaris. Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Maxim Kryachko wrote: > Hi all. > I would like to ask your recommendations. > I'm in charge to plan and implement a backup strategy for a relatively small > programmers' community (15 Linux developers, 3-4 Linux servers, 2 Solaris > servers). Backup of Solaris is the most critical issue as it has ClearCase on > it as well as backup user home directories on their machines (that is, one > directory per machine). What backup program can you recommend that will be > able to backup all this stuff, which platform is the best for it to reside. > The solution not nessessarily should be the cheapest, though we do not plan > to spend millions ;-) The program should be able to deal with DLT. What DLT > would you recommend you have a good experience with? The initial backup load > wil be approximately 30 Gb. > > Please don't beat me for a bunch of questions, it's my first time and I don't > want make mistakes. > Thanks in advance. > -- > ** > Maxim Kryachko > ** > - > > ÿÿ > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: default permissions
Hi, I actually also need such a feature, but for a different reason: On the network server I am putting files into all kind of directories, but in each dir the files should have a different umask/gid, because some dirs are public and others are not and yet others are for the web server etc. Just now I put the files and chmod/chown them all the time. If I could set up a dir to create files with a certain umask/gid then I could work as user and the permissions and ownerships would come automatically. Schlomo Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Aviram Jenik wrote: > Hi. > > > > > When a file gets created on a UNIX system, the permissions are determined > > by two things: umask, and requested permissions. Various solutions can > > be devised based on changing one of these parameters -- if you tell > > us why you need this, maybe we could be of more help. > > I'm using an internal program that creates local files on the system in a > predefined directory (for example, log files, etc). This application writes > files using the default umask (as you both explained), but I want it to have > a different umask then the default (for example, give o+r when the default > umask is different). I don't care much about ownership, so that's not an > issue. > > I'd rather not modify the application itself, and not wrap it with scripts. > The best solution would be to somehow change the umask of the *directory* > without affecting the global umask. > I was hoping there would be a simple and straightforward way to do it under > UNIX... > > Any ideas? > > - Aviram > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to slow down noisy CDROM
Hi, thanks for the ideas, but I really was looking for a way to tell the CD to read the data slowly :-) The point is that like this I can just cd into the CD and play the music without a big hassle, and I know that for Win there is such a program (called CD-Bremse) and I was just thinking that it might exist for Linux, too. Schlomo Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2000, Schlomo Schapiro wrote about "How to slow down noisy CDROM": > > Hi, > > > > does anybody know how to slow down a noisy CD ? I use it mostly to play > > MP3s and the vacuum cleaner noise doesn't fit the music (and the CD would > > be still fast enough if it would run at 4x instead of 36x). > > Another solution is to cache the music: if your CD player can read at 20x > speed (I don't believe the manufacturer's data to represent anything of > relevance to the truth ;)), then you can read 15 minutes of music in 5 > seconds (quick calculation: mp3 is about 10 times smaller than raw CD data, > 20x makes you able to read data 200 times faster than it will play later). > > So you can write a small script which, every 15 minutes, reads the next > 15 minutes of music from the CD onto the hard disk. It will only be 5 > seconds of noise every 15 minutes (even if it's 10 seconds, it's not too > bad - if the drive needs to seek (the music is not contiguous) it will take > somewhat longer, but still not too bad). If you want you can do other > varients on this idea: e.g., if you have 100MB free space on your harddrive > you can read 100 minutes of music from the CD (this will take 30-60 seconds, > I think), once every 100 minutes. Given enough disk-space you can even copy > the entire CD (650MB) to the hard-disk and play the music from there. > > By the way, there's a commercial mp3 player that takes this approach for > somewhat different purpose: that player has a 10 GB hard disk to store > *tons* of music, random access and rewritable. However because it is a > portable player, the hard disk is problematic if it spins continuously - > it wastes a lot of energy and it can be damaged by too-violent motions. > So what they do is have a memory cache of, say, 4MB that holds 4 minutes > of music. The drive has to be spun up once every 4 minutes, the 4MB of > data is read in a couple of seconds, and the drive is spun down. The > player can (in theory - I don't remember the implentation details) choose > an appropriate time to read from the hard-disk using motion sensors, and > if a read fails it can retry a while later - while still playing what it > has left in the 4-minute buffer. > > > -- > Nadav Har'El |Friday, Dec 1 2000, 5 Kislev 5761 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- > Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Cigarette: tobacco wrapped in paper, > http://nadav.harel.org.il |fire at one end, and a fool at the other. > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to slow down noisy CDROM
Hi, does anybody know how to slow down a noisy CD ? I use it mostly to play MP3s and the vacuum cleaner noise doesn't fit the music (and the CD would be still fast enough if it would run at 4x instead of 36x). Thanks, Schlomo PS: Under Windows there is a program to do this, but I didn't find anything for Linux :-( Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
