Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Quoting Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think I would like to do this job. However there is one small thing that is stopping me from sending my resume. For moral reasons I DO NOT USE MS-Word nor MS-Word formats!!! If you remove this requirement, not only that you get my resume, you will get a lot more resumes. MS-Word is a propriatry format from Microsoft, since me and many others in the community regard them as an organization working in non-ethical and against human rights ways, we are trying not to use their products nor formats, in order to to surender their monopoly. This was in short about microsoft and now in short about myself. -- Ori Idan I think your complains regarding Microsoft Word format are ridiculous. I don't what you to send me documents in Open Office or in PDF formats as it will make another unnecessary loop. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think I would like to do this job. However there is one small thing that is stopping me from sending my resume. For moral reasons I DO NOT USE MS-Word nor MS-Word formats!!! If you remove this requirement, not only that you get my resume, you will get a lot more resumes. I think your complains regarding Microsoft Word format are ridiculous. I don't what you to send me documents in Open Office or in PDF formats as it will make another unnecessary loop. How is that ridiculos? There is no way to ensure proper conversation from OOo (or KOffice, AbiWord etc) to MS-Word without vieweing the document in MS-Word, which means purchasing (and using) Windows+Word (or Mac+Word if everything's in English). Both cost money (and not a small amount of money) and are arguably inferior to other solutions in many aspects. If you insist on a format easily-readable by MS-Word you can use RTF which has a rather (if not fully) open specification. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Sunday 18 January 2004 11:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MS-Word is a propriatry format from Microsoft, since me and many others in the community regard them as an organization working in non-ethical and against human rights ways, we are trying not to use their products nor formats, in order to to surender their monopoly. This was in short about microsoft and now in short about myself. I think your complains regarding Microsoft Word format are ridiculous. I don't what you to send me documents in Open Office or in PDF formats as it will make another unnecessary loop. Your arguments are ridiculous, simple text is more than enough to describe what a CV calls for. From your attitude, you look for code-monkeys and not professionals. You chose the wrong forum for this -- keep trolling elsewhere. -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron * Progress (n.): The process through which Usenet has evolved from smart people in front of dumb terminals to dumb people in front of smart terminals. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (obscurity) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional: I think your complains regarding Microsoft Word format are ridiculous. I don't what you to send me documents in Open Office or in PDF formats as it will make another unnecessary loop. Nobody asked to send resumes in Open Office formats - we all realise that this is (as yet) an uncommon format with a small install base. However, in some respects, asking for a Linux candidate to send a MS-Word file is like meeting a vegetarian candidate over lunch in a steakhouse - something that a-priori will alienate the candidate. In case my previous posting (which concentrated on the technical aspects of PDF vs. DOC) wasn't convincing enough, and because it's actually possible to send you a DOC file even for Open-Office users (I believe Open-Office can export DOC, with some degree of suceess), let me tell you about the ideological aspect - the reason I told you that you have unleased a hoard of angry penguins :) One of the most common complaint we (the people who chose a different operating system instead of Windows) have is that Microsoft perpetuates its monopoly by convincing users to use non-standard formats, like its DOC format, for document transfer. DOC is non-standard not because it's not common (it's very common, in fact), but because only a single company - Microsoft - has access to the details of this every-changing format. Competing companies (remember Dagesh? Q-Text? WordPerfect? Einstein?) can only try to reverse- engineer this format, and never did so with complete success. Imagine a world where people exchanged hard-copy documents with standard formats, like PDF, PS, HTML, or even plain text. In this world, people would choose Microsoft Word because of its technical excellence and its price compared to the alternatives. This is the world we want to live in - not a world where we *have* to use MS-Word for compatibility reasons. Not a world where using software from a different vendor is viewed as an unnecessary complication. In the world we want to live in, compatibility is achieved by following openly-available high-quality standards, not by all buying software from the same company. -- Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Jan 18 2004, 24 Tevet 5764 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Why do we drive on a parkway and park on http://nadav.harel.org.il |a driveway? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think your complains regarding Microsoft Word format are ridiculous. I don't what you to send me documents in Open Office or in PDF formats as it will make another unnecessary loop. ok, lets put this in a different perspective. you are looking for Linux people (or you wouldn't have been looking for them on this list). quite a few of the people that use linux, do not have microsoft office, and are thus unable to send you a resume in the format you want to get. thus, you cut out some people. it's even feasible that the more a person is familiar with linux, the less chance that they have microsoft office. so you're cutting out the people that you most want to send you their resumes. here is a simple idea: how about accepting resumes written in html? they are easy enough to create for linux users (and user of other platforms as well). and they are easy enough for you to process (microsoft word, office 2000 or higher, can import html quite easily - especially the simple html that is likely to be found in a resume). so, what do you chose - to keep people antagonized towards your company, or to be a little more flexible? -- guy For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator. -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Just to get into the fray a little, In the good old days when I was employed in Isreal, there were companies that asked for the resume in pdf. I would only send samples of my tech writing work in pdf. I have friends who made the mistake of sending in doc and found some of their work 'borrowed' into other companies work. The resume is a different point. When I create a CV, even if I have word. I would hesitate to send it in .doc format. First case example: The company is using an older version of Word (or a newer version) Second case exampte: The company is using hebrew enabled or hebrew native with english enabled. This is a great way to have someone see a sloppy CV. I know this from painful experience. I have sent 100's of CV's and some were turned down because of the sloppy formatting. These companies insisted I give them .docs. I infact opened the said doc files (created in MS Word) on other peoples computers and indeed depending on the type and version of Word the CV ranged from the way I intended it, to unadulterated Cr*p, pardon my french. Next example. When I worked in MediaOne no work was ever given to a Client in .doc format only pdf. PDF is not an extra loop it is a published e document in our day an age. You can make a pdf using any application and it will look the way you intended period. My advise is never submit an unpublished document to any company alway send a closed format such as pdf ( actually I also like ps) Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
ok, lets put this in a different perspective. you are looking for Linux people (or you wouldn't have been looking for them on this list). quite a few of the people that use linux, do not have microsoft office, and are thus unable to send you a resume in the format you want to get. thus, you cut out some people. it's even feasible that the more a person is familiar with linux, the less chance that they have microsoft office. so you're cutting out the people that you most want to send you their resumes. here is a simple idea: how about accepting resumes written in html? they are easy enough to create for linux users (and user of other platforms as well). and they are easy enough for you to process (microsoft word, office 2000 or higher, can import html quite easily - especially the simple html that is likely to be found in a resume). so, what do you chose - to keep people antagonized towards your company, or to be a little more flexible? Our company wants to get people that are open minded. Not the ones that will be stuck with something. We are working here, not playing games with 'open' source. We need a professional programmers. People that can create products. Really all those messages looked childish to me. If you have some moral reasons for using MS Word you are not welcomed here. For people that just do not have MS Word send you documents in HTML or rtf of plain ASCII format. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] so, what do you chose - to keep people antagonized towards your company, or to be a little more flexible? Our company wants to get people that are open minded. Not the ones that will be stuck with something. We are working here, not playing games with 'open' source. We need a professional programmers. People that can create products. Huh? Run that by me again? Playing games? I can't begin to describe how wrong you are. Really all those messages looked childish to me. Eliezer Ben Yehuda had to take exactly this kind of cr*p when he tried to convert people to use Hebrew in Israel. If you have some moral reasons for using MS Word you are not welcomed here. You are on the wrong mailing-list, buddy. Marc, don't you have some SCSI cable handy for this purpose? For people that just do not have MS Word send you documents in HTML or rtf of plain ASCII format. Now that's more like it. At least the need is recognized. -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. PortAuthority(TM) Server Keeping Information Inside Vidius, Inc. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
18 2004, 14:56,[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Our company wants to get people that are open minded. Not the ones that will be stuck with something. [Translate: We want people who use the same products we use and I don't even know how to spell the competing product name, not to mention actually trying it.] We are working here, not playing games with 'open' source. We need a professional programmers. People that can create products. [Translate: you are confusing me. go away] Really all those messages looked childish to me. [Translate: You do not agree with me, you must be stupid] If you have some moral reasons for using MS Word you are not welcomed here. [Translate: We do not like people who do not conform to our way of thinking. no free thinkers in our company, oh yea.] For people that just do not have MS Word send you documents in HTML or rtf of plain ASCII format. [Translate: I guess this is what you wanted to hear, right? well there you go. of course if you do send CVs in the above mentioned formats don't be surprised if they end up in my outlook's trash folder] -- Oded ::.. THE LESSER-KNOWN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES #10 -- SIMPLE SIMPLE is an acronym for Sheer Idiot's Monopurpose Programming Language Environment. This language, developed at the Hanover College for Technological Misfits, was designed to make it impossible to write code with errors in it. The statements are, therefore, confined to BEGIN, END and STOP. No matter how you arrange the statements, you can't make a syntax error. Programs written in SIMPLE do nothing useful. Thus they achieve the results of programs written in other languages without the tedious, frustrating process of testing and debugging. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Well, I tried to stay away, since I am not looking for a job, but it is clearly worth an application of a differential SCSI cable, it's so funny... [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our company wants to get people that are open minded. Not the ones that will be stuck with something. Oh... We are working here, not playing games with 'open' source. Eh, is it a Freudian slip inadvertently exposing your company's attitude towards 'open' source? Really all those messages looked childish to me. Out of curiosity: is Shtirlitz your real name? I suspect not, I suspect I know where you got the pen name from, I suspect you have misspelled it, and I suspect it is childish to use it. It's up to Marc to decide, of course... ;-) If it *is* your real name, I apologize for making a wrong assumption, naturally. If you have some moral reasons for using MS Word you are not welcomed here. Now that's a good attitude! ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/21062001/ART157442.html http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/08042002/ART273128.html http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/10122001/ART220898.html http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/NodeView.asp?fid=964 according to Globes - this company is closed... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 03:12:01PM +0200, Arik Baratz wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] so, what do you chose - to keep people antagonized towards your company, or to be a little more flexible? Our company wants to get people that are open minded. Not the ones that will be stuck with something. We are working here, not playing games with 'open' source. We need a professional programmers. People that can create products. Huh? Run that by me again? Playing games? I can't begin to describe how wrong you are. Really all those messages looked childish to me. Eliezer Ben Yehuda had to take exactly this kind of cr*p when he tried to convert people to use Hebrew in Israel. If you have some moral reasons for using MS Word you are not welcomed here. You are on the wrong mailing-list, buddy. Marc, don't you have some SCSI cable handy for this purpose? For people that just do not have MS Word send you documents in HTML or rtf of plain ASCII format. Now that's more like it. At least the need is recognized. Just to throw another match in the fire, you are much less likely to get a virus off an HTML or ASCII format cv then .doc (I hope you were lanning to throw norton at my face and even more that you bother to diable macros in M$ before you open the M$ doc cv) -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. PortAuthority(TM) Server Keeping Information Inside Vidius, Inc. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/21062001/ART157442.html http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/08042002/ART273128.html http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/10122001/ART220898.html http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/NodeView.asp?fid=964 according to Globes - this company is closed... This does not mean much. All the above links are from a few years ago, and the company that was closed had dealt with advertising for ISPs or some such, while this offer is for a company, possibly resurrected, that is interested in real-time Messaging Management Solutions for ISPs and Backbones. A more serious problem is that I get a server error for www.adwise.net - the URL that is in the OP's signature. Looks like the server has port 80 closed. You should be able to send your resume to adwise.net, but you'll have to do it blindly, without as much as checking out the company's website. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Well, actually their IIS (Yuck!) gives you an Under Construction error message. So, it lives, but it's dead. - Original Message - From: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/21062001/ART157442.html http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/08042002/ART273128.html http://images.maariv.co.il/cache/cachearchive/10122001/ART220898.html http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/NodeView.asp?fid=964 according to Globes - this company is closed... This does not mean much. All the above links are from a few years ago, and the company that was closed had dealt with advertising for ISPs or some such, while this offer is for a company, possibly resurrected, that is interested in real-time Messaging Management Solutions for ISPs and Backbones. A more serious problem is that I get a server error for www.adwise.net - the URL that is in the OP's signature. Looks like the server has port 80 closed. You should be able to send your resume to adwise.net, but you'll have to do it blindly, without as much as checking out the company's website. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Sunday, Jan 18, 2004, at 20:13 Asia/Jerusalem, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: This does not mean much. All the above links are from a few years ago, and the company that was closed had dealt with advertising for ISPs or some such, while this offer is for a company, possibly resurrected, that is interested in real-time Messaging Management Solutions for ISPs and Backbones. Oh, and the difference is ahem... They offered spamming tools in pop-up windows in the past. Now they offer real time messaging management tools. If it is pink, is packed in a tin can, and used to make oink oink sounds, it's spam. A more serious problem is that I get a server error for www.adwise.net - the URL that is in the OP's signature. Looks like the server has port 80 closed. You should be able to send your resume to adwise.net, but you'll have to do it blindly, without as much as checking out the company's website. That's what Google Cache is for: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:bet3Sw9Faz8J:www.adwise.net/ You can get at the other web pages there using the cache, if you want to. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Sunday 18 January 2004 20:29, Oleg wrote: Well, actually their IIS (Yuck!) gives you an Under Construction error message. So, it lives, but it's dead. Michael Sternberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/NodeView.asp?fid=964 according to Globes - this company is closed... Seems like the ya-Linuxers-send-us-only-Word-docs attitude has proved it self again as good litmus test for trolls... -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron +---+ .:\:\:/:/:. | PLEASE DO NOT |:.:\:\:/:/:.: | FEED THE TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=: | | '=(\ 9 9 /)=' | Thank you, | ( (_) ) | Management | /`-vvv-'\ +---+ / \ | |@@@ / /|,|\ \ | |@@@ /_// /^\ \\_\ @x@@x@| | |/ WW( ( ) )WW \/| |\| __\,,\ /,,/__ \||/ | | | jgs (__Y__) /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Adwise Ltd is a leader provider of real-time Messaging Management Solutions for ISPs and Backbones. We are currently seeking an experienced PHP programmer. Requirements: PHP (Experienced with large scale projects). Apache administration and security. Databases administration and security (Postgresql, MySQL - Advantage). UNIX/Linux Networking - Advantage. Hands on experience with Unix/Linux tools. JavaScript and HTML/DHTML At least 3 years experience. Please send your resume in MS Word format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ !! I was hearing there are such companies, never saw myself. Adwise HR. www.adwise.net = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional: ... Please send your resume in MS Word format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Watch out, you've just unleashed a hoard of angry penguins! And to think that I just asked a few hours ago not to lash out at perspective employers ;) P.S. Microsoft Word is a *word processing* format, not a hard-copy format. Assuming you'd want to view and/or print your candidate's resumes, not EDIT them, there is no reason to insist on this proprietary format. PDF or Postcript are good hard-copy formats that you can accept. Not to mention that plain text, of even HTML, are just as good in this case (resumes do not typically include graphs, equations, table of contents, or anything else that word processors are used for), and virtually anyone can generate plain text or HTML with any software. -- Nadav Har'El| Thursday, Jan 15 2004, 22 Tevet 5764 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-790466, ICQ 13349191 |And now for some feedback: http://nadav.harel.org.il |EEE = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Nadav Har'El wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional: ... Please send your resume in MS Word format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Watch out, you've just unleashed a hoard of angry penguins! And to think that I just asked a few hours ago not to lash out at perspective employers ;) P.S. Microsoft Word is a *word processing* format, not a hard-copy format. Assuming you'd want to view and/or print your candidate's resumes, not EDIT them, there is no reason to insist on this proprietary format. PDF or Postcript are good hard-copy formats that you can accept. Not to mention that plain text, of even HTML, are just as good in this case (resumes do not typically include graphs, equations, table of contents, or anything else that word processors are used for), and virtually anyone can generate plain text or HTML with any software. I'm afraid they have been shy to say developers should be able to write documentation in MS Word format, so asked for resume in this format as a proof of ability. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Nadav Har'El wrote: Microsoft Word is a *word processing* format, not a hard-copy format. Assuming you'd want to view and/or print your candidate's resumes, not EDIT them, there is no reason to insist on this proprietary format. It's done for 2 reasons: 1. Resume filing software is designed to read MS/Word format. I don't know about the company in question, but large companies don't read resumes, they scan them or dump them directly into resume processing software. Then the personel person can do a query on job#123, linux, etc and get the qualified people for that job. :-( 2. Most personel people are clueless about handeling attachments. Specifying MS/Word limits the resumes received to something they can virus check and anderstand. BTW, MS/Word format can easily be read and written by Open Office. Note that if you ever send me a resume, you can send it to me in MS/Word format. I'll gladly read it by strings file | less. If I see the comment Microsoft Resume Template in it you can guess where it will go. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-54-608-069 Icq/AIM Uin: 2661079 MSN IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Not for email) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please send your resume in MS Word format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ !! I was hearing there are such companies, never saw myself. Personally, I usually send in PDF. I am yet to hear a complaint. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Systems Consulting http://www.lingnu.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please send your resume in MS Word format to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ !! I was hearing there are such companies, never saw myself. Personally, I usually send in PDF. I am yet to hear a complaint. You do not here. Nor you here about accepted. :) Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
Behdad Esfahbod wrote: On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Personally, I usually send in PDF. I am yet to hear a complaint. You do not here. Nor you here about accepted. :) That's the beuty of being your own boss. You don't get to write one of those the opinions expressed in this mail are my own, and do not refelct those of my employer thingies, and you don't need to pass an interview to get in. Also, when a company is sending out a document as PDF, it serves to look MORE professional, not less. As for the other side - at least Omnitech, for which I'm helping to recruite, PDF are acceptable. I can say that I'm bringing about some change within my humble reach. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Systems Consulting http://www.lingnu.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JOB OFFER] Adwise Seeking - PHP Professional
On Thursday 15 January 2004 20:53, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Note that if you ever send me a resume, you can send it to me in MS/Word format. I'll gladly read it by strings file | less. If I see the comment Microsoft Resume Template in it you can guess where it will go. True story: in a company I previously worked for, I did just that to a prospective empolyee resume and discovered the name of a top secret military project of the army unit said prospective employee belonged to embedded in the file. He didn't get the job. Gilad = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
