encoding hebrew text
Hi people, I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for hebrew? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to read the file with notepad and notepad++. Uri. On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren wrote: > could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? > > it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to > make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). > > i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. > > tom. > > 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen >> >> Hi people, >> >> I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used >> notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I >> highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text >> appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, >> eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read >> the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one >> of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 >> encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the >> files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for >> hebrew? >> >> Thanks, >> Uri Even-Chen >> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 >> E-mail: u...@speedy.net >> Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > זיכרון נייד חדשני Sandisk Cruzer Micro U3 2GB. דגם: SDCZ6-2048-E10WT מספר מכירה: 11648541 מחיר המוצר כולל דמי משלוח: 139 ₪ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
what's the difference with encoding with BOM and without BOM? with notepad++ I have both options, I don't know which one is better. I know that with BOM notepad recognizes it as utf-8, which is good when opening the files with notepad. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Tom Goren wrote: > also i just remembered, notepad itself has an option of saving the files > natively to utf8 format, however it is utf8 with BOM, which is bad for you. > > 2009/12/16 Tom Goren >> >> could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? >> >> it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to >> make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). >> >> i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. >> >> tom. >> >> 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen >>> >>> Hi people, >>> >>> I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used >>> notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I >>> highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text >>> appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, >>> eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read >>> the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one >>> of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 >>> encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the >>> files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for >>> hebrew? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Uri Even-Chen >>> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 >>> E-mail: u...@speedy.net >>> Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ >>> >>> ___ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
If I open the file with notepad, the hebrew text is not readable. If I save it as utf-8, the hebrew text is not readable even in notepad++. I need to convert the file to utf-8 in another way, I can't see any option to encode it with windows-1255 in notepad. attached it the file in utf-8. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: > > OK, your file is encoded in windows-1255. What is the problem? Open it in > Notepad and save it as UTF-8. You will get a BOM at the beginning. If this > is bad for you, edit the file with any editor except Notepad and remove the > first 3 bytes. > > > Shalom (Regards), Mati > Bidi Architect > Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts > IBM Israel > Phone: +972 2 502 Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 > 2554160 > > > > From: > Uri Even-Chen > To: > Tom Goren > Cc: linux-il > Date: 16/12/2009 00:47 > Subject: Re: encoding hebrew text > Sent by: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il > > > > OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode > it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can > convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was > already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still > need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to > read the file with notepad and notepad++. > > Uri. > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren wrote: > > could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? > > > > it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to > > make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). > > > > i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. > > > > tom. > > > > 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen > >> > >> Hi people, > >> > >> I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used > >> notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I > >> highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text > >> appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, > >> eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read > >> the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one > >> of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 > >> encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the > >> files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for > >> hebrew? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Uri Even-Chen > >> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > >> E-mail: u...@speedy.net > >> Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ > >> > >> ___ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > [attachment "1.txt" deleted by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM] > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > æéëøåï ðééã çãùðé Sandisk Cruzer Micro U3 2GB. ãâí: SDCZ6-2048-E10WT îñôø îëéøä: 11648541 îçéø äîåöø ëåìì ãîé îùìåç: 139 ¤ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: encoding hebrew text
OK, I found a solution. I opened the file with both notepad and notepad++, then I changed the encoding to windows-1255 in notepad++, then I copied all the contents to notepad and saved in utf-8. It works. I'm attaching the result. Thanks! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: > > OK, your file is encoded in windows-1255. What is the problem? Open it in > Notepad and save it as UTF-8. You will get a BOM at the beginning. If this > is bad for you, edit the file with any editor except Notepad and remove the > first 3 bytes. > > > Shalom (Regards), Mati > Bidi Architect > Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts > IBM Israel > Phone: +972 2 502 Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 > 2554160 > > > > From: > Uri Even-Chen > To: > Tom Goren > Cc: linux-il > Date: 16/12/2009 00:47 > Subject: Re: encoding hebrew text > Sent by: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il > > > > OK, I'm attaching an example file with a few lines in hebrew (encode > it in windows-1255 to read the hebrew). I checked now and I can > convert the file to windows-1255 encoding, the problem was that it was > already in utf-8 and that's why I couldn't convert it. but I still > need to encode it in utf-8 with hebrew enabled, so I will be able to > read the file with notepad and notepad++. > > Uri. > > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Tom Goren wrote: > > could you perhaps attach an example of such a file? > > > > it would make it easier to recommend the appropriate conversion for you to > > make (in my opinion it should eventually all be utf8). > > > > i know that notepad++ should be sufficient. > > > > tom. > > > > 2009/12/15 Uri Even-Chen > >> > >> Hi people, > >> > >> I have a problem with encoding hebrew text files on windows. I used > >> notepad to edit these files, now I'm using notepad++ (by the way, I > >> highly recommend notepad++ on windows). the problem is, hebrew text > >> appears as gibberish (ëøèéñ etc.). I tried different encodings, > >> eventually with using windows-1255 as the character set, I can read > >> the hebrew in notepad++, but I can't convert it to utf-8. Also, one > >> of my files I can't read the hebrew at all, even with windows-1255 > >> encoding. I need help to fix the hebrew encoding and convert the > >> files to utf-8. Am I right that utf-8 is the best solution for > >> hebrew? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Uri Even-Chen > >> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > >> E-mail: u...@speedy.net > >> Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ > >> > >> ___ > >> Linux-il mailing list > >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > [attachment "1.txt" deleted by Matitiahu Allouche/Israel/IBM] > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > זיכרון נייד חדשני Sandisk Cruzer Micro U3 2GB. דגם: SDCZ6-2048-E10WT מספר מכירה: 11648541 מחיר המוצר כולל דמי משלוח: 139 ₪ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
Hi people, I am seriously thinking about switching to Google Chrome or Firefox. I use Internet Explorer 8, and I tested all 3 of them recently. The fonts look better on good old Internet Explorer, and I'm also used to it, after switching from Netscape about 10 years ago. But, the problem is I can't see pictures on my newsletters on Gmail. I checked Google Chrome and Firefox, to my surprise both of them show the pictures without problems, only with Internet Explorer I can't see pictures, which is very frustrating. I'm thinking maybe this is because I'm using HTTPS and not HTTP. I don't know why I can't see the pictures on Internet Explorer, but it looks much better with pictures. The problem is that I prefer the fonts of Internet Explorer, and I also use other websites, such as my bank, and I didn't check them with Google Chrome and Firefox. It's much easier for me to use Internet Explorer, if I can just solve the pictures issue, or maybe use Google Chrome only to view my newsletters. I'm in a dilemma. I hate Microsoft, I like open source, but I don't like to use inferior software. What do you think? My operating system is Windows XP. Sorry - no open source OS for me yet. I'm waiting for Google OS - maybe I'll switch in a few years. I can't use ubuntu etc. - too complicated for me, not compatible with other computers etc. I'm also using MS Word, Excel and Access - I can't stop using them right now. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi, > I don't know which issues you have with Explorer that don't show pictures. > Perhaps security settings? (you can disable security checking on site like > GMail, for example). I'll check. I didn't change anything in security settings, I left everything at default. > Chrome is OK and Firefox is OK. Most of the sites in Israel (the big ones) > both work pretty well with both Chrome and Firefox. > Since you're using Windows, you can install on both Chrome and Firefox the > "ie tab" extension which will add a button to let you switch rendering > engine (or actually to open an IE window inside firefox or chrome) so bad > sites will still look good in Firefox or Chrome. I prefer using IE. Also, with IE there is a sound I'm hearing, every time I click a link. I'm used to hearing this sound. In Google Chrome and Firefox I'm deaf - no sounds. > Good luck, Thanks! By the way, I'm also using Sandisk U3 disk on key (flash disk), and I don't think it works on any free operating system - only on Windows. I need it to access my files. Another reason not to use Linux Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/12/20 Uri Even-Chen : >> Hi people, >> >> I am seriously thinking about switching to Google Chrome or Firefox. >> I use Internet Explorer 8, and I tested all 3 of them recently. The >> fonts look better on good old Internet Explorer, and I'm also used to >> it, after switching from Netscape about 10 years ago. But, the >> problem is I can't see pictures on my newsletters on Gmail. I checked >> Google Chrome and Firefox, to my surprise both of them show the >> pictures without problems, only with Internet Explorer I can't see >> pictures, which is very frustrating. I'm thinking maybe this is >> because I'm using HTTPS and not HTTP. I don't know why I can't see >> the pictures on Internet Explorer, but it looks much better with >> pictures. The problem is that I prefer the fonts of Internet >> Explorer, and I also use other websites, such as my bank, and I didn't >> check them with Google Chrome and Firefox. It's much easier for me to >> use Internet Explorer, if I can just solve the pictures issue, or >> maybe use Google Chrome only to view my newsletters. I'm in a >> dilemma. I hate Microsoft, I like open source, but I don't like to >> use inferior software. What do you think? >> >> My operating system is Windows XP. Sorry - no open source OS for me >> yet. I'm waiting for Google OS - maybe I'll switch in a few years. I >> can't use ubuntu etc. - too complicated for me, not compatible with >> other computers etc. I'm also using MS Word, Excel and Access - I >> can't stop using them right now. >> > > Hi Uri. You will probably find that most sites will work the same in > both Firefox and Chrome, and that may be different than what IE shows. > Israeli sites are terribly IE dependant, so when you come across such > a site please write to me off-list (or on-list, but CC me) and tell > which site it is and what does not work. OK, If I find such a site I will let you know. Currently I know about 2 problems: 1. In Bank Hapoalim website, using IE, when pressing a stock the images of קנייה & מכירה are half transparent, which is a bug. I didn't check Google Chrome and Firefox. 2. In Gmail, when using advanced search in IE, when pressing Enter, I get a message "please specify who you wish to invite" but I'm searching, not inviting! I checked Google Chrome and the bug doesn't appear there. > Have a great week! Thanks! Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
OK, I changed security settings and now I can view the images in Internet Explorer. I added mail.google.com as a trusted website, and also selected "no" as my answer if to view only the secure pages, then I can see images in my newsletters. Now, since this problem is solved, I think I will keep using IE. But I will check with Google Chrome and Firefox every while, maybe I'll change my mind later. Uri. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:38 AM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi, > I don't know which issues you have with Explorer that don't show pictures. > Perhaps security settings? (you can disable security checking on site like > GMail, for example). > Chrome is OK and Firefox is OK. Most of the sites in Israel (the big ones) > both work pretty well with both Chrome and Firefox. > Since you're using Windows, you can install on both Chrome and Firefox the > "ie tab" extension which will add a button to let you switch rendering > engine (or actually to open an IE window inside firefox or chrome) so bad > sites will still look good in Firefox or Chrome. > Good luck, > Hetz > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> Hi people, >> >> I am seriously thinking about switching to Google Chrome or Firefox. >> I use Internet Explorer 8, and I tested all 3 of them recently. The >> fonts look better on good old Internet Explorer, and I'm also used to >> it, after switching from Netscape about 10 years ago. But, the >> problem is I can't see pictures on my newsletters on Gmail. I checked >> Google Chrome and Firefox, to my surprise both of them show the >> pictures without problems, only with Internet Explorer I can't see >> pictures, which is very frustrating. I'm thinking maybe this is >> because I'm using HTTPS and not HTTP. I don't know why I can't see >> the pictures on Internet Explorer, but it looks much better with >> pictures. The problem is that I prefer the fonts of Internet >> Explorer, and I also use other websites, such as my bank, and I didn't >> check them with Google Chrome and Firefox. It's much easier for me to >> use Internet Explorer, if I can just solve the pictures issue, or >> maybe use Google Chrome only to view my newsletters. I'm in a >> dilemma. I hate Microsoft, I like open source, but I don't like to >> use inferior software. What do you think? >> >> My operating system is Windows XP. Sorry - no open source OS for me >> yet. I'm waiting for Google OS - maybe I'll switch in a few years. I >> can't use ubuntu etc. - too complicated for me, not compatible with >> other computers etc. I'm also using MS Word, Excel and Access - I >> can't stop using them right now. >> >> Uri Even-Chen >> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 >> E-mail: u...@speedy.net >> Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > -- > my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org > Skype: heunique > MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
OK, I checked Bank Hapoalim with Google Chrome: The fonts look terrible! And every page I get an alert "undefined". I guess I will have to keep using IE. At least for the next decade or so. Will check again in 2020, maybe then Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/12/20 Uri Even-Chen : >> Hi people, >> >> I am seriously thinking about switching to Google Chrome or Firefox. >> I use Internet Explorer 8, and I tested all 3 of them recently. The >> fonts look better on good old Internet Explorer, and I'm also used to >> it, after switching from Netscape about 10 years ago. But, the >> problem is I can't see pictures on my newsletters on Gmail. I checked >> Google Chrome and Firefox, to my surprise both of them show the >> pictures without problems, only with Internet Explorer I can't see >> pictures, which is very frustrating. I'm thinking maybe this is >> because I'm using HTTPS and not HTTP. I don't know why I can't see >> the pictures on Internet Explorer, but it looks much better with >> pictures. The problem is that I prefer the fonts of Internet >> Explorer, and I also use other websites, such as my bank, and I didn't >> check them with Google Chrome and Firefox. It's much easier for me to >> use Internet Explorer, if I can just solve the pictures issue, or >> maybe use Google Chrome only to view my newsletters. I'm in a >> dilemma. I hate Microsoft, I like open source, but I don't like to >> use inferior software. What do you think? >> >> My operating system is Windows XP. Sorry - no open source OS for me >> yet. I'm waiting for Google OS - maybe I'll switch in a few years. I >> can't use ubuntu etc. - too complicated for me, not compatible with >> other computers etc. I'm also using MS Word, Excel and Access - I >> can't stop using them right now. >> > > Hi Uri. You will probably find that most sites will work the same in > both Firefox and Chrome, and that may be different than what IE shows. > Israeli sites are terribly IE dependant, so when you come across such > a site please write to me off-list (or on-list, but CC me) and tell > which site it is and what does not work. > > Have a great week! > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
I also have a problem with Bank Hapoalim on Firefox. The numbers are
switched, instead of "(1) דואר נכנס" I get "דואר נכנס )1(" (the number
is on the right) and instead of "(25) סל מיחזור" I get "רוזחימ לס
)52(" - I get 52 instead of 25.
Uri Even-Chen
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: u...@speedy.net
Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
> OK, I checked Bank Hapoalim with Google Chrome: The fonts look
> terrible! And every page I get an alert "undefined". I guess I will
> have to keep using IE. At least for the next decade or so. Will
> check again in 2020, maybe then
>
> Uri Even-Chen
> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
> E-mail: u...@speedy.net
> Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 2009/12/20 Uri Even-Chen :
>>> Hi people,
>>>
>>> I am seriously thinking about switching to Google Chrome or Firefox.
>>> I use Internet Explorer 8, and I tested all 3 of them recently. The
>>> fonts look better on good old Internet Explorer, and I'm also used to
>>> it, after switching from Netscape about 10 years ago. But, the
>>> problem is I can't see pictures on my newsletters on Gmail. I checked
>>> Google Chrome and Firefox, to my surprise both of them show the
>>> pictures without problems, only with Internet Explorer I can't see
>>> pictures, which is very frustrating. I'm thinking maybe this is
>>> because I'm using HTTPS and not HTTP. I don't know why I can't see
>>> the pictures on Internet Explorer, but it looks much better with
>>> pictures. The problem is that I prefer the fonts of Internet
>>> Explorer, and I also use other websites, such as my bank, and I didn't
>>> check them with Google Chrome and Firefox. It's much easier for me to
>>> use Internet Explorer, if I can just solve the pictures issue, or
>>> maybe use Google Chrome only to view my newsletters. I'm in a
>>> dilemma. I hate Microsoft, I like open source, but I don't like to
>>> use inferior software. What do you think?
>>>
>>> My operating system is Windows XP. Sorry - no open source OS for me
>>> yet. I'm waiting for Google OS - maybe I'll switch in a few years. I
>>> can't use ubuntu etc. - too complicated for me, not compatible with
>>> other computers etc. I'm also using MS Word, Excel and Access - I
>>> can't stop using them right now.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Uri. You will probably find that most sites will work the same in
>> both Firefox and Chrome, and that may be different than what IE shows.
>> Israeli sites are terribly IE dependant, so when you come across such
>> a site please write to me off-list (or on-list, but CC me) and tell
>> which site it is and what does not work.
>>
>> Have a great week!
>>
>> --
>> Dotan Cohen
>>
>> http://what-is-what.com
>> http://gibberish.co.il
>>
>
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Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I also have a problem with Bank Hapoalim on Firefox. The numbers are
>> switched, instead of "(1) דואר נכנס" I get "דואר נכנס )1(" (the number
>> is on the right) and instead of "(25) סל מיחזור" I get "רוזחימ לס
>> )52(" - I get 52 instead of 25.
>
> It sounds like they are using visual encoding, which makes them
> idiots. You will find that leads to problems in IE, too, like
> searching in the browser or copying text.
They save time and money by not checking browsers such as Google
Chrome and Firefox. I worked once in a web developing company, and
they told me their contract with the customer is that the website
works with Internet Explorer only. They told me not to check the
website with Firefox! They don't care, the customer doesn't pay for
checking with Firefox and they don't check it at all. Most web
developing companies work like that. Banks too, they hire web
developers (sometimes outsourcing) and they pay them to make the site
look fine with Internet Explorer. They don't bother to check with
Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox, although it's only about 10% more of
the developing time. They save money!
Uri.
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Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sunday 20 Dec 2009 02:32:02 Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> Hi people, >> >> I am seriously thinking about switching to Google Chrome or Firefox. >> I use Internet Explorer 8, and I tested all 3 of them recently. The >> fonts look better on good old Internet Explorer, and I'm also used to >> it, after switching from Netscape about 10 years ago. But, the >> problem is I can't see pictures on my newsletters on Gmail. I checked >> Google Chrome and Firefox, to my surprise both of them show the >> pictures without problems, only with Internet Explorer I can't see >> pictures, which is very frustrating. I'm thinking maybe this is >> because I'm using HTTPS and not HTTP. I don't know why I can't see >> the pictures on Internet Explorer, but it looks much better with >> pictures. The problem is that I prefer the fonts of Internet >> Explorer, and I also use other websites, such as my bank, and I didn't >> check them with Google Chrome and Firefox. It's much easier for me to >> use Internet Explorer, if I can just solve the pictures issue, or >> maybe use Google Chrome only to view my newsletters. I'm in a >> dilemma. I hate Microsoft, I like open source, but I don't like to >> use inferior software. What do you think? >> > > I've listed several major reasons to avoid using Internet Explorer and have > collected many anti-MSIE links here: > > http://www.shlomifish.org/no-ie/ > > Namely, Internet Explorer tends to be insecure, non-standards compliant, has > lesser usability (though that has greatly improved in MSIE 7 and especially > MSIE 8) and is not open-source or portable. > > If you have problems with the fonts, you can easily change them in Firefox > using Edit -> Preferences. But please stop using Internet Explorer. > > Internet Explorer may be old but it's certainly not good. I tested all 3 browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer) with Gmail, and the fonts look best with Internet Explorer! The fonts in Google Chrome and Firefox don't look good, I can't explain it but the fonts in Internet Explorer look better! I think they should improve Google Chrome and Firefox, I have problems with other websites and not only my bank. It's bad, websites should work well with all browsers but the web developers don't bother to test them! It's much cheaper to test only with Internet Explorer and ignore the rest. But I prefer Internet Explorer, I will not switch to another browser if the fonts don't look good, I don't hear anything when clicking links etc. I'm not the usual end user who doesn't know how to install new browsers, I tested 3 browsers and chose Internet Explorer! Maybe in 5 years I will change my mind, maybe not. Today I think Internet Explorer is the best browser. I wouldn't recommend anything else to others! Uri. > >> My operating system is Windows XP. Sorry - no open source OS for me >> yet. I'm waiting for Google OS - maybe I'll switch in a few years. > > Google Chrome OS is a stripped-down version of Linux that only gives you a > browser. I don't know how any power-user can use it. You should use plain > Linux instead. > >> I >> can't use ubuntu etc. - too complicated for me, not compatible with >> other computers etc. > > Linux is not Ubuntu! There are plenty of distributions besides Ubuntu, and one > of them may be better for you. I'm personally using Mandriva, and am happy > with it (though I'm a computer power-user/"guru", so your experience will > vary). In any case, desktop Linux is not less complicated than Windows XP, and > WinXP tends to do a lot of stuff you don't want, don't understand, or don't > know how to fix behind your back. > > Regarding compatibility with other computers, you can always use VirtualBox ( > http://www.virtualbox.org/ ) to run Microsoft Windows in a virtual machine, or > to use software that can import or export Windows formats such as > OpenOffice.org, etc. U3 is another example of companies not bothering to test other operating systems beside Windows. It's a good tool which enable you to protect your files with a password, but it works only on Windows. If I insert my disk on key on a Linux machine, I will not be able to access my files (the encrypted files). Sandisk and M-Systems decided that supporting Windows is good enough. By the way, I think they only support newer versions of Windows, such as Windows XP, and not Windows 98 etc. Not like regular disk on keys, which support all operating systems. > >> I'm also using MS Word, Excel and Access - I >> can't stop using them right now. > > Why not? Sorry, I can't. I have files in Excel and Word, they never look the same with Open Office, and I'm using them. And Access - I don't know about any alternative to Access. I'm stuck with Windows. Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Sunday 20 Dec 2009 13:13:01 Uri Even-Chen wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> >> I also have a problem with Bank Hapoalim on Firefox. The numbers are
>> >> switched, instead of "(1) דואר נכנס" I get "דואר נכנס )1(" (the number
>> >> is on the right) and instead of "(25) סל מיחזור" I get "רוזחימ לס
>> >> )52(" - I get 52 instead of 25.
>> >
>> > It sounds like they are using visual encoding, which makes them
>> > idiots. You will find that leads to problems in IE, too, like
>> > searching in the browser or copying text.
>>
>> They save time and money by not checking browsers such as Google
>> Chrome and Firefox. I worked once in a web developing company, and
>> they told me their contract with the customer is that the website
>> works with Internet Explorer only. They told me not to check the
>> website with Firefox! They don't care, the customer doesn't pay for
>> checking with Firefox and they don't check it at all. Most web
>> developing companies work like that. Banks too, they hire web
>> developers (sometimes outsourcing) and they pay them to make the site
>> look fine with Internet Explorer. They don't bother to check with
>> Google Chrome, Opera, Firefox, although it's only about 10% more of
>> the developing time. They save money!
>
> You're describing a situation that may have been "true" (and I'm putting
> "true" in quotes) a few years ago. But right now, you must be either very
> clueless or out-of-your-mind or both to not support Firefox and other more
> standards-compliant browsers. While it is true that MSIE still has an 80%
> market share (possibly less by now - it keeps losing it), as someone noted to
> me on IRC, this is the bottom 80% of the web surfers. By all means, you do
> wish to cater to the more clueful people who are using Firefox and other
> "alternative" browsers.
>
> Furthermore, there are other factors:
>
> 1. Web designers who test their pages in Firefox and design according to web
> standards tend to be more clueful than their FrontPage weenies counterparts,
> and as a result produce better, more sustainable and safer code.
>
> 2. You are likely to lose customers who will refuse to switch to MSIE to
> browse your site, or have to handle many complaints from people that your web-
> site does not work for them.
>
> 3. Your pages may easily break with newer versions of MSIE, which will require
> update.
>
> 4. There are other advantages:
>
> http://www.shlomifish.org/philosophy/by-others/mashhoor--10-reasons--
> hebrew.html
>
> (short URL - http://xrl.us/bgpzhg )
>
> -
>
> So they are not saving money in the long run or even not in the short run.
If they were not saving money, they wouldn't do it at all! Money is
the reason why they do it, like I said they save maybe 10% or 15% of
the total web developing time, and I agree they save money only in
short terms, but that's how businesses work! They don't care about
20% of the users, I told you the website of Bank Hapoalim, the biggest
bank in the country, has problems with Firefox and Google Chrome.
With Firefox it's minor problems, but still there are problems which
they could solve! And with Google Chrome it's a more annoying
problem. They don't care about standards, if they don't pay web
developers to test other browsers then they don't test at all! I
prefer Internet Explorer as an end user, as a developer I always test
at least Firefox, for example you can check www.speedywhois.net and
see for yourself. But if I work as an employee, and my boss tells me
not to test Firefox - I don't have a choice. I can't do things
against my boss!
By the way, I tried to report to the bank, they gave me a captcha, (I
hate captchas), I made a mistake and they deleted my feedback. I
didn't have time to type it again... the banks such, they are really
bad when it comes to supporting computer technologies, and their
business depends on computers!
Uri.
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Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I tested all 3 browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer) >> with Gmail, and the fonts look best with Internet Explorer! The fonts >> in Google Chrome and Firefox don't look good, I can't explain it but >> the fonts in Internet Explorer look better! > > Turn on anti-aliasing for all programs. This is a known issue in Windows. Sorry, I don't know how to do that. I'm stuck with the default. But I think the programmers themselves (of Google Chrome and Firefox) should have taken care of this issue. >> I think they should >> improve Google Chrome and Firefox, I have problems with other websites >> and not only my bank. It's bad, websites should work well with all >> browsers but the web developers don't bother to test them! It's much >> cheaper to test only with Internet Explorer and ignore the rest. But >> I prefer Internet Explorer, I will not switch to another browser if >> the fonts don't look good, I don't hear anything when clicking links >> etc. I'm not the usual end user who doesn't know how to install new >> browsers, I tested 3 browsers and chose Internet Explorer! Maybe in 5 >> years I will change my mind, maybe not. Today I think Internet >> Explorer is the best browser. I wouldn't recommend anything else to >> others! >> > > Other than the fonts (which you can fix by turning on anti-aliasing) > and the clicking sound (which an addon fixes), what other advantages > does IE have? I personally like IE 8 when I use Windows, but I find > Firefox even better. This is a serious question. My bank (hapoalim) website does not look good in Firefox and Google Chrome. Other websites as well. IE is installed automatically on any computer with Windows, this helps when you get used to it and it's installed on public computers around the world. If I use a public computer when travelling, chances are I'm using IE. I tried Firefox and Google Chrome, for example with Gmail, and I think they are less good than IE. >> Sorry, I can't. I have files in Excel and Word, they never look the >> same with Open Office, and I'm using them. > > If you have non-confidential files that look different in OOo, please > send them to me so that I could file a bug and improve OOo. Thanks. Sorry, my files are confidential. But I'm not using Open Office, I have a version of Microsoft Office on my computer and I'm used to it. I suppose I can convert my Word and Excel files to Open Office if I want to, but my Access software will have to keep running on Microsoft Access & Windows. I wrote this software for the company I work for, Pazgal, since 1996 and until now. It has about 80 forms, 40 reports and more than 200 queries, 80 tables and a lot of Visual Basic code. If I were to write this program again in a new platform, it would take me years! And I don't know which platform can replace Microsoft Access. >> And Access - I don't know >> about any alternative to Access. I'm stuck with Windows. >> > > There is none. OOo Base is nowhere near the level that Access is, even > for simple home users. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Free software projects in Java or C++
Hi people, I am looking for a new job right now, and I want to work in programming Java or C++, or maybe Python. I know PHP and C and Visual Basic and Access, but I don't have experience with Java or C++. A friend of mine suggested me to join a free software (open source) project in Java or C++, to gain experience in these languages. But I don't know how to find such a project. Do you have an idea how to find a good project I can join, in Java or C++ or maybe Python? I want to gain experience so I will be able to find a job. Without experience, chances are low to find a job in Java or C++ - companies want programmers with experience in the programming language they need. I have more than 15 years of experience programming, even 20, but not in object oriented languages. There are many jobs in Java and C++ and they don't want to interview me, because of my lack of experience in those languages. How do I gain the experience I need? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OOo presenter in Hebrew
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I never used Open Office Presenter. A user sent me a slideshow that > she created in Windows OOo 3.1. She claims that in the design view it > shows fine, but in the display view the Hebrew is reversed. When > viewing the slideshow on my Kubuntu system with OOo 3.1 it looks fine. > Does anyone have experience with this? What could be her problem? If you want, send me the file with instructions where to download the latest version of Open Office, and I will check it. I'm not using Open Office, but I don't mind to download it to test the file. Uri. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OOo presenter in Hebrew
OK, I'm trying to download Open Office now (version 3.11). The file size is 150MB - it's huge! Comparing to about 8MB of Firefox. I think end users will not bother to download such a big file. Although I have fast connection (1.5Mb download), it would take about 15 minutes to download such a file. I will then test my Word & Excel files with Open Office and let you know what I think. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I never used Open Office Presenter. A user sent me a slideshow that > she created in Windows OOo 3.1. She claims that in the design view it > shows fine, but in the display view the Hebrew is reversed. When > viewing the slideshow on my Kubuntu system with OOo 3.1 it looks fine. > Does anyone have experience with this? What could be her problem? > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Sandisk U3 on Linux
Hi People, I have been using Sandisk U3 disk on key (flash disk) since 3 years now, and I know U3 does not support Linux. I was thinking, is it possible to convert U3 to Linux? Maybe we can find volunteers to write the source code for Linux, or (maybe) the company (Sandisk) will agree to cooperate with us? I think it's a main problem that the files are not accessible from Linux (and by the way Mac), how difficult it is to convert them to Linux? I don't think the source code for U3 is free, maybe the company will not cooperate and it might be difficult to do it without them. But this is a main problem - hardware (with software) that is not accessible to Linux users. I know you can use the disk on key without U3, but if you buy U3 you would probably use it. Why don't they support Linux? Is it just to save time on their programmers salaries? Or maybe they have their reasons? Anyway, I am thinking, if the company does not cooperate - why not write a new program (I mean - an encryption program for disks on key) which will support all platforms, maybe using existing open source programs, and distribute this program for free? Maybe we can make a profit somehow? What do you think? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: firefox and Bank Leumi web site
Just to let you know, there are problems with Bank Hapoalim and Firefox too. The bank uses Visual Hebrew, which makes it hard to copy & paste text. For example: "ךרע תוריינב הקסע עוציב" is after I copy & paste to Gmail. Most pages are viewable, but there are some problems with some of the pages. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Free software projects in Java or C++
By the way, I am thinking... since long ago I wanted to develop a free software (open source) project to automatically compose music. About 10 years ago I worked on a project called Speedy Composer (http://www.speedy.net/composer/), which is automatic composition of music. I developed it using Matlab, but there is currently no user interface. Maybe I will develop it using Java? What do you think? I will need to convert the Matlab files to Java, which might be difficult, but maybe after a few month's work I will be able to do it? What do you think? Then I will need to create a user interface program for composing music, or maybe using the web. 10 years ago I developed user interface using Visual Basic, but it was not complete. I might need help from another programmer, it would be difficult to do it alone. But I want to develop this program. If you want, you can listen to melodies composed on the website (Speedy Composer). Or write me and I will send you melodies off list. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Hi people, > > I am looking for a new job right now, and I want to work in > programming Java or C++, or maybe Python. I know PHP and C and Visual > Basic and Access, but I don't have experience with Java or C++. A > friend of mine suggested me to join a free software (open source) > project in Java or C++, to gain experience in these languages. But I > don't know how to find such a project. Do you have an idea how to > find a good project I can join, in Java or C++ or maybe Python? I > want to gain experience so I will be able to find a job. Without > experience, chances are low to find a job in Java or C++ - companies > want programmers with experience in the programming language they > need. I have more than 15 years of experience programming, even 20, > but not in object oriented languages. There are many jobs in Java and > C++ and they don't want to interview me, because of my lack of > experience in those languages. How do I gain the experience I need? > > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > E-mail: u...@speedy.net > Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Sandisk U3 on Linux
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 01:03:08AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> Hi People, >> >> I have been using Sandisk U3 disk on key (flash disk) since 3 years >> now, and I know U3 does not support Linux. I was thinking, is it >> possible to convert U3 to Linux? > > What do you mean? It shows up as a two separate devices: a C dand a USB > storage device. Both are well-supported in Linux. Are you sure U3 is supported on Linux? Can you access your password-encrypted files? I read U3 does not support Linux. For example on Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3 > If you want to change anything with the "CD", you'll need > http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/ . > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is > http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's > tzaf...@cohens.org.il | | best > ICQ# 16849754 | | friend > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Micha wrote: > On 25/12/2009 23:29, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >>>> >>>> I tested all 3 browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer) >>>> with Gmail, and the fonts look best with Internet Explorer! The fonts >>>> in Google Chrome and Firefox don't look good, I can't explain it but >>>> the fonts in Internet Explorer look better! >>> >>> Turn on anti-aliasing for all programs. This is a known issue in Windows. >> >> Sorry, I don't know how to do that. I'm stuck with the default. But >> I think the programmers themselves (of Google Chrome and Firefox) >> should have taken care of this issue. >> > > It's not something that the programmers can control in this case. Its a fuck > with the shitty piece of software called windows. Why? I don't think there is anything a good programmer can't do. If they want they can do it. >>>> I think they should >>>> improve Google Chrome and Firefox, I have problems with other websites >>>> and not only my bank. It's bad, websites should work well with all >>>> browsers but the web developers don't bother to test them! It's much >>>> cheaper to test only with Internet Explorer and ignore the rest. But >>>> I prefer Internet Explorer, I will not switch to another browser if >>>> the fonts don't look good, I don't hear anything when clicking links >>>> etc. I'm not the usual end user who doesn't know how to install new >>>> browsers, I tested 3 browsers and chose Internet Explorer! Maybe in 5 >>>> years I will change my mind, maybe not. Today I think Internet >>>> Explorer is the best browser. I wouldn't recommend anything else to >>>> others! >>>> >>> >>> Other than the fonts (which you can fix by turning on anti-aliasing) >>> and the clicking sound (which an addon fixes), what other advantages >>> does IE have? I personally like IE 8 when I use Windows, but I find >>> Firefox even better. This is a serious question. >> >> My bank (hapoalim) website does not look good in Firefox and Google >> Chrome. Other websites as well. IE is installed automatically on any >> computer with Windows, this helps when you get used to it and it's >> installed on public computers around the world. If I use a public >> computer when travelling, chances are I'm using IE. I tried Firefox >> and Google Chrome, for example with Gmail, and I think they are less >> good than IE. >> > > Israely banks are notorious for horrible site design practices. > > As for IE around the world, I ran into more and more computers running > linux. I also always traver with a portable version of firefox and > thunderbird on a usb disk (Actually also skype for those windows computers > that don't have it installed). Greatly reduces the risk of password theft > (those computers around the world are usually set to store passwords and > such). > > Personally, I introduced my wife to firefox and since then she refuses to > touch Microsoft, she just stopped using any sites that don't support it. > > And now that Leumi has a iphone app we don't need explorer even for that. > >>>> Sorry, I can't. I have files in Excel and Word, they never look the >>>> same with Open Office, and I'm using them. >>> >>> If you have non-confidential files that look different in OOo, please >>> send them to me so that I could file a bug and improve OOo. Thanks. >> >> Sorry, my files are confidential. But I'm not using Open Office, I >> have a version of Microsoft Office on my computer and I'm used to it. >> > > My condolences > >> I suppose I can convert my Word and Excel files to Open Office if I >> want to, but my Access software will have to keep running on Microsoft >> Access& Windows. I wrote this software for the company I work for, >> Pazgal, since 1996 and until now. It has about 80 forms, 40 reports >> and more than 200 queries, 80 tables and a lot of Visual Basic code. >> If I were to write this program again in a new platform, it would take >> me years! And I don't know which platform can replace Microsoft >> Access. >> > > Access is one of the worst databases around. sql is a much better choice, > although I'm not a database person so I can't recomend environments. Visual > basic is also pure crap in my opinio
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Micha wrote: > On 26/12/2009 02:48, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Micha wrote: >>> >>> On 25/12/2009 23:29, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dotan Cohen >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I tested all 3 browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer) >>>>>> with Gmail, and the fonts look best with Internet Explorer! The fonts >>>>>> in Google Chrome and Firefox don't look good, I can't explain it but >>>>>> the fonts in Internet Explorer look better! >>>>> >>>>> Turn on anti-aliasing for all programs. This is a known issue in >>>>> Windows. >>>> >>>> Sorry, I don't know how to do that. I'm stuck with the default. But >>>> I think the programmers themselves (of Google Chrome and Firefox) >>>> should have taken care of this issue. >>>> >>> >>> It's not something that the programmers can control in this case. Its a >>> fuck >>> with the shitty piece of software called windows. >> >> Why? I don't think there is anything a good programmer can't do. If >> they want they can do it. >> > > A good programmer can do almost anything. The question is how much resources > are needed (re implementing anti aliasing in firefox is not smart), how long > does it take to come up with the information (is reverse engineering needed > ...) and whether someone else should have done it already (microsoft should > enable anti aliasing but xp came out at an age of crt monitors so a lot of > times it's not enabled by default). > > Look for cleartype on google to see how to play with anti aliasing under > windows. > >>>>>> I think they should >>>>>> improve Google Chrome and Firefox, I have problems with other websites >>>>>> and not only my bank. It's bad, websites should work well with all >>>>>> browsers but the web developers don't bother to test them! It's much >>>>>> cheaper to test only with Internet Explorer and ignore the rest. But >>>>>> I prefer Internet Explorer, I will not switch to another browser if >>>>>> the fonts don't look good, I don't hear anything when clicking links >>>>>> etc. I'm not the usual end user who doesn't know how to install new >>>>>> browsers, I tested 3 browsers and chose Internet Explorer! Maybe in 5 >>>>>> years I will change my mind, maybe not. Today I think Internet >>>>>> Explorer is the best browser. I wouldn't recommend anything else to >>>>>> others! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Other than the fonts (which you can fix by turning on anti-aliasing) >>>>> and the clicking sound (which an addon fixes), what other advantages >>>>> does IE have? I personally like IE 8 when I use Windows, but I find >>>>> Firefox even better. This is a serious question. >>>> >>>> My bank (hapoalim) website does not look good in Firefox and Google >>>> Chrome. Other websites as well. IE is installed automatically on any >>>> computer with Windows, this helps when you get used to it and it's >>>> installed on public computers around the world. If I use a public >>>> computer when travelling, chances are I'm using IE. I tried Firefox >>>> and Google Chrome, for example with Gmail, and I think they are less >>>> good than IE. >>>> >>> >>> Israely banks are notorious for horrible site design practices. >>> >>> As for IE around the world, I ran into more and more computers running >>> linux. I also always traver with a portable version of firefox and >>> thunderbird on a usb disk (Actually also skype for those windows >>> computers >>> that don't have it installed). Greatly reduces the risk of password theft >>> (those computers around the world are usually set to store passwords and >>> such). >>> >>> Personally, I introduced my wife to firefox and since then she refuses to >>> touch Microsoft, she just stopped using any sites that don't support it. >>> >>> And now that Leumi has a iphone app we don't need explorer even for that. >>> >>>>>> Sorry, I can't. I have files in Excel and Word,
Free version of NoteWorthy Composer
Hi People, When working on my automatic melody composing project 10 years ago, I used a program called NoteWorthy Composer ( http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/composer/ ). It's a good program, it lets you save melodies in a readable format and then you can play them, convert them to MIDI etc. I paid for the program about $39 10 years ago, but I didn't keep the program on my computer (I bought new computers twice since then). I checked their website now, and it is possible to download only an evaluation version - if I want the full version then I have to pay $49 (after I already paid once). I was thinking, is there a free software which is recommended and does something similar? Of course I will also have to convert my .nwc files, or maybe the free program can read it? Also, NoteWorthy Composer works on Microsoft Windows - I don't think there are versions for Linux and Mac. This is another problem with Linux - many softwares don't run on Linux. Do you know any alternative? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Oron Peled wrote: > On Friday, 25 בDecember 2009 23:29:08 Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> But I prefer Internet Explorer, I will not switch to another browser >> ... >> But I'm not using Open Office, I have a version of Microsoft Office >> on my computer and I'm used to it. >> ... >> And I don't know which platform can replace Microsoft Access. > > In your last mails you started a quest for: > - A Firefox that would behave like your beloved IE. > - An OpenOffice.org that would be like your MS-Office. > - "something" that would replace your MS-Access. > - Linux that would behave like Windows(TM). > > From your posts I understand you already own Windows, IE, MS-Office > and Access -- problem solved. Why seek for imitations if you have > the original? I don't think Firefox, Open Office and Linux are imitations. But there are still some advantages I see in the Microsoft products, and that's why I'm using them. Of course, I also don't like paying for software, at least not that much, so a free version is always welcome. > Uri, it looks like "microsoft-il" or "no-money-windows" mailing lists > would provide better answers to your needs. Thanks for your advice. Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Free software projects in Java or C++
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Oron Peled wrote: > On Friday, 25 בDecember 2009 23:38:38 Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> A friend of mine suggested me to join a free software (open source) >> project in Java or C++, to gain experience in these languages. > > Your friend gave you a good advice. However, please note that usually > there is no *immediate* reward. It's not like a (free software) newbie > joins a project and three months later he is swamped with job requests. > > Working on a free software project tend to increase your capabilities > by exposing you to different technologies and working styles. On the > long run (years), this can bring you not only fun, but work as well. Thanks for your advice. >> Do you have an idea how to find a good project I can join, in Java or >> C++ or maybe Python? > > There are many sites hosting free software projects. Some of them: > www.sourceforge.net > savannah.gnu.org > gna.org > github.com > > Since you used some scripting languages in the past (PHP), it looks > like python would provide easier learning curve for you. I personally prefer compiled programming languages than scripting ones. I have experience with both, Pascal and C vs. Basic and PHP and Perl. I want to learn Python, but I think there are less jobs with Python, so it's better I learn Java or C++. I think there are many jobs in Java and C++. There are also jobs in C# and .NET, but I prefer not to be stuck with Microsoft technologies. I don't like Microsoft, although I have been using their products for many years. Also, thanks for the websites you sent me. I know sourceforge, the others I will check later. Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Micha wrote: > On 26/12/2009 13:51, Shlomi Fish wrote: >> >> On Saturday 26 Dec 2009 02:02:15 Micha wrote: >>> >>> On 25/12/2009 23:29, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Dotan Cohen >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I tested all 3 browsers (Google Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer) >>>>>> with Gmail, and the fonts look best with Internet Explorer! The fonts >>>>>> in Google Chrome and Firefox don't look good, I can't explain it but >>>>>> the fonts in Internet Explorer look better! >>>>> >>>>> Turn on anti-aliasing for all programs. This is a known issue in >>>>> Windows. >>>> >>>> Sorry, I don't know how to do that. I'm stuck with the default. But >>>> I think the programmers themselves (of Google Chrome and Firefox) >>>> should have taken care of this issue. >>> >>> It's not something that the programmers can control in this case. Its a >>> fuck with the shitty piece of software called windows. >>> >> >> Well, they could offer to toggle this option in Windows on in the >> installer. > > They could but I guess that they don't want to update their installer. > >> > > ... > >> >>> As for IE around the world, I ran into more and more computers running >>> linux. I also always traver with a portable version of firefox and >>> thunderbird on a usb disk (Actually also skype for those windows >>> computers >>> that don't have it installed). Greatly reduces the risk of password >>> theft >>> (those computers around the world are usually set to store passwords and >>> such). >> >> So you're using the Firefox password manager for that? I'm just interested >> to >> know how you overcome the keyloggers / password sniffers. >> > > 1. A lot of places just enable saving passwords without asking, so your > passwords, even if not directly readable, are saved locally. They also > enable automatic form filling so they get both the username and the password > (all they need is the first letter of the username to fill the entire form). > Using my own firefox with password manager and ssl login avoids that > (although take note that it is possible to sniff the contents of password > fields on the same computer so it's not completely fool proof) > > 2. I configured thunderbird to use ssl login for all sites and remember > passwords so I never actually type the password and it's never sent clear > text so it's very hard for keyloggers/password sniffers to catch those > passwords > > 3. At least some of your sites are saved in the cache so you're surfing > details can be seen later on. Portable firefox avoids that as well (although > remember to purge the temp folder when you finish, some things go there). > > 4. I always keep track of all passwords I use during travel and change them > once I get home > > 5. I always leave my bank accesses to someone I trust at home to do my > transactions for me (my parents have power of attorney at the bank ...). > Actually my parents used the same approach on their last big trip. > > 6. skype also saves all usernames used and possibly the last password so > using a portable version avoids that as well. > > >>> > > ... > >>> >>>> I suppose I can convert my Word and Excel files to Open Office if I >>>> want to, but my Access software will have to keep running on Microsoft >>>> Access& Windows. I wrote this software for the company I work for, >>>> Pazgal, since 1996 and until now. It has about 80 forms, 40 reports >>>> and more than 200 queries, 80 tables and a lot of Visual Basic code. >>>> If I were to write this program again in a new platform, it would take >>>> me years! And I don't know which platform can replace Microsoft >>>> Access. >>> >>> Access is one of the worst databases around. sql is a much better choice, >>> although I'm not a database person so I can't recomend environments. >>> Visual >>> basic is also pure crap in my opinion, but I guess I'm as biased against >>> Microsoft as you are for it. >>> >> > > I'll start with the fact that I'm not a database programmer, I actually > rather despise doing anything database related. It's way out of my domain of > expertise. I did get
Re: Google Chrome vs. Firebox or good old Internet Explorer?
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Sorry, I don't know how to do that. I'm stuck with the default. But >> I think the programmers themselves (of Google Chrome and Firefox) >> should have taken care of this issue. >> > > The OOo and Firefox programmers will not change your Windows settings. > That is a slippery slope and would lead to all sorts of bad karma. > > Start → Settings → Control Panel → Display → Appearance → Effects → > Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts → ClearType I tried, but the screen became blurred (מטושטש) so I switched back to standard. I don't like the blurred effect so much. >> My bank (hapoalim) website does not look good in Firefox and Google >> Chrome. Other websites as well. IE is installed automatically on any >> computer with Windows, this helps when you get used to it and it's >> installed on public computers around the world. If I use a public >> computer when travelling, chances are I'm using IE. I tried Firefox >> and Google Chrome, for example with Gmail, and I think they are less >> good than IE. >> > > I won't argue about which browser is better, but I would love to hear > why you feel that IE is better. No argument, just tell me what you > like about it, or what you dislike about Firefox. The fonts look better with IE. In Gmail, there is a small sign (») when the mail is sent directly to my address. It looks better in IE than in Firefox and Chrome. I also like the sound when pressing links, in Firefox and Chrome it's like being deaf - no sounds. I also entered my website Speedy Composer ( http://www.speedy.net/composer/ ). In IE the website plays music. In Firefox and Chrome I need to install a plugin - Apple Quicktime - and I never install plugins. I hate plugins. And also, Bank Hapoalim website has problems with Firefox and Chrome. So in general I think IE is better. Sorry, I can't. I have files in Excel and Word, they never look the same with Open Office, and I'm using them. >>> >>> If you have non-confidential files that look different in OOo, please >>> send them to me so that I could file a bug and improve OOo. Thanks. >> >> Sorry, my files are confidential. But I'm not using Open Office, I >> have a version of Microsoft Office on my computer and I'm used to it. >> > > No problem. MS Office really is good software (I don't like MS's web > browser or operating system, but their office suite is great) and if > you feel that the price is justified (which in my opinion it is) then > use it! > > >> I suppose I can convert my Word and Excel files to Open Office if I >> want to, but my Access software will have to keep running on Microsoft >> Access & Windows. I wrote this software for the company I work for, >> Pazgal, since 1996 and until now. It has about 80 forms, 40 reports >> and more than 200 queries, 80 tables and a lot of Visual Basic code. >> If I were to write this program again in a new platform, it would take >> me years! And I don't know which platform can replace Microsoft >> Access. >> > > Nothing can directly replace Access. OOo Base is not even close. > > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
need help with PHP open source class
Hi, I am using the PHPwhois class ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwhois/ ) on my Speedy Whois website ( http://www.speedywhois.net/ ). My version of the class is 4 years old. I checked and there are many bugs, some of them I reported ( https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=31207&atid=401654 ), and they also didn't release PHPwhois for more than a year. I am now looking for someone to help me fix the bugs and release the PHPwhois class, and add it to my Speedy Whois release on sourceforge ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedywhois/ ). The code has to be rewritten, for example to avoid notices and warnings when using undefined variables etc. If one of you has some time, it would help if you can download the files from the CVS on PHPwhois (they don't release new tar.gz files), then check which bugs are not fixed and fix them. Then release PHPwhois - if they don't accept the release we can fork the project. And then release Speedy Whois with the bugs fixed. My estimate of the work is up to 3 days, maybe even one day of work if you're very good in programming. I can help test and generate bugs, but I'm not that good in object oriented programming. I also don't know how to download the files from CVS, if you let me know it can help (I use Windows XP). If you can help, please contact me. by the way, there is also a problem with domain names registered at godaddy - they don't return full whois results to my IP address. Do you have an idea how to overcome this? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: need help with PHP open source class
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Meir Kriheli wrote: > On 12/29/2009 03:45 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am using the PHPwhois class ( >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwhois/ ) on my Speedy Whois >> website ( http://www.speedywhois.net/ ). My version of the class is 4 >> years old. I checked and there are many bugs, some of them I reported >> ( https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=31207&atid=401654 >> ), and they also didn't release PHPwhois for more than a year. I am >> now looking for someone to help me fix the bugs and release the >> PHPwhois class, and add it to my Speedy Whois release on sourceforge ( >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedywhois/ ). The code has to be >> rewritten, for example to avoid notices and warnings when using >> undefined variables etc. If one of you has some time, it would help >> if you can download the files from the CVS on PHPwhois (they don't >> release new tar.gz files), then check which bugs are not fixed and fix >> them. Then release PHPwhois - if they don't accept the release we can >> fork the project. And then release Speedy Whois with the bugs fixed. >> My estimate of the work is up to 3 days, maybe even one day of work if >> you're very good in programming. I can help test and generate bugs, >> but I'm not that good in object oriented programming. I also don't >> know how to download the files from CVS, if you let me know it can >> help (I use Windows XP). >> >> If you can help, please contact me. >> >> by the way, there is also a problem with domain names registered at >> godaddy - they don't return full whois results to my IP address. Do >> you have an idea how to overcome this? > > IMO PHP developers should be aware of PEAR [1] and use it when possible. The > repo includes a whois class called Net_Whois [2], maintained - current > stable released last month (feature request). > > [1] http://pear.php.net/ > [2] http://pear.php.net/package/Net_Whois Sorry, I'm not using PEAR. If you can implement the same functionality using Net_Whois - I don't mind, but I don't want to install it myself. The PHPwhois class is good, and returns good results for most domain names. Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: need help with PHP open source class
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Omer Zak wrote: > On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 10:42 +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Meir Kriheli wrote: >> > > >> > IMO PHP developers should be aware of PEAR [1] and use it when possible. >> > The >> > repo includes a whois class called Net_Whois [2], maintained - current >> > stable released last month (feature request). >> > >> > [1] http://pear.php.net/ >> > [2] http://pear.php.net/package/Net_Whois >> >> Sorry, I'm not using PEAR. If you can implement the same >> functionality using Net_Whois - I don't mind, but I don't want to >> install it myself. The PHPwhois class is good, and returns good >> results for most domain names. > > What are the reasons against using PEAR (besides, of course, having to > install additional packages in your development and deployment systems)? It's too complicated, I'm not familar with PEAR. As I said, if one of you wants to do it, I don't mind using PEAR, but I don't want to do it alone. Also, my program uses the PHPwhois class already, so I might have to change the program itself. I prefer using PHPwhois and improving it. Uri. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: sms via icq to cellcom
I read on the media that the agreement between ICQ and Cellcom has ended today. Cellcom decided not to allow free SMS messages from ICQ any more, and also from Google. Here are the articles: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3828098,00.html http://it.themarker.com/tmit/article/9293 Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ 2009/12/31 sara fink > > I tried today to send sms to cellcom via icq (done in this case from a > windows machine) and it said > SMS in Israel can only be sent to Orange and Pelephone.For more details see > http://www.icq.com/sms > > It worked until yesterday just fine. > > I haven't tried with linux yet, because I am not near the computer with the > vicq script. > > Can anyone confirm if the problem persists in linux and/or windows? > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: need help with PHP open source class
Hi, Eventually they released a new version of PHPwhois, and I used it to upgrade Speedy Whois and released a new version. The bugs are fixed, I checked many domain names and it works fine. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I am using the PHPwhois class ( > https://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwhois/ ) on my Speedy Whois > website ( http://www.speedywhois.net/ ). My version of the class is 4 > years old. I checked and there are many bugs, some of them I reported > ( https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=31207&atid=401654 > ), and they also didn't release PHPwhois for more than a year. I am > now looking for someone to help me fix the bugs and release the > PHPwhois class, and add it to my Speedy Whois release on sourceforge ( > https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedywhois/ ). The code has to be > rewritten, for example to avoid notices and warnings when using > undefined variables etc. If one of you has some time, it would help > if you can download the files from the CVS on PHPwhois (they don't > release new tar.gz files), then check which bugs are not fixed and fix > them. Then release PHPwhois - if they don't accept the release we can > fork the project. And then release Speedy Whois with the bugs fixed. > My estimate of the work is up to 3 days, maybe even one day of work if > you're very good in programming. I can help test and generate bugs, > but I'm not that good in object oriented programming. I also don't > know how to download the files from CVS, if you let me know it can > help (I use Windows XP). > > If you can help, please contact me. > > by the way, there is also a problem with domain names registered at > godaddy - they don't return full whois results to my IP address. Do > you have an idea how to overcome this? > > Thanks, > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > E-mail: u...@speedy.net > Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Beware of PayPal + request for advice
Hi, I have a problem with PayPal - they advertise that you can withdraw money to Israeli bank accounts for free. But the catch is - they deposit to Israeli banks in Shekels, and they charge about 3.66% exchange rate fee (undocumented). I got stuck with money in PayPal, after I requested it to be sent there, and then I discovered the exaggerated exchange rate fee. Be careful! [ http://illuminea.com/israel/withdraw-paypal-to-israeli-bank-accounts/ ]. And request for advice: do you know how I can transfer money to a USA bank account (or PayPal account), and receive the money in Israel? I don't have a USA bank account. I can't receive the money from PayPal in US dollars - that's not an option. I want to pay minimal fees. Do you have an idea? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Domain Registrars .co.il
I registered my domain names directly with www.isoc.org.il If there is a dispute, I don't think it matters which registrar you are using. I think www.isoc.org.il handles the disputes. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ 2010/7/6 Justin : > Which one of these would you trust more to register your domain in Israel? > https://secure.communigal.net/ > or > http://www.internic.co.il/isoc.html > Specifically which one is less likely to suspend a domain entry for trivial > disputes? > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Looking for a programmer for a web project - Speedy Composer
Hi all, I hope it's OK to write to this list. I'm looking for a programmer for an open source web project called Speedy Composer - a program that will automatically compose music. This is a project I did a few years ago, which can compose melodies using MATLAB - using artificial neural networks. I need a programmer who can convert this MATLAB code into web interface, allowing users to create accounts, then compose their own melodies according to specific musical chords, and saving the composed melodies in MIDI format to the user's account on the server, letting the users play the music or download it in MIDI format. The programming language is open, can be PHP and/or C/C++ or Java, or any other open programming language. I want to create a website using this program (with English interface), and also release it as an open source project. You can find more details and examples of melodies composed by this project on this website: http://www.speedy.net/composer/ There is also a project on SourceForge, where you can download the MATLAB source files & project files: https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedycomposer/ There are two options of working with me: 1. Partnership. We can share the profits from this project. Let me know if you are willing to work as a partner. 2. Freelancer. If you want to work as a freelancer, let me know how much you will charge per this project, or per hour and how many hours are estimated. If you are interested, please send me a short resume and programming skills, how many hours you estimate to complete this work, whether you prefer partnership or freelancer, and how much you will charge (including all taxes). Please send all this information to my e-mail (u...@speedy.net), and don't forget to write "Programmer - Speedy Composer" as the title. Also, if you have advice on ways to find a programmer (where to advertise), please let me know. Best Regards, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: web fonts
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 22:06, Tomer Cohen wrote: >> I would suggest not to mess with fonts, as for most usages it already has >> good choices for every operating system and browser. You can instead specify >> font-family:sans-serif, as serif fonts are never looking good on screens >> (but ideal for prints). >> > > That's what I do for English-language sites, let the browser handle > it. But this Hebrew site looks terrible, apparently IE default > settings for fonts have ugly Hebrew glyphs. > > >> If you are very geeky, you can load fonts fronts from the stylesheet itself, >> so you can show culmus fonts for Windows, as well as any other chosen font. >> > > I understand that is not very portable, rather I would prefer to use > the system's fonts, I just need to know what are good system fonts in > Windows / IE. I use Arial, I think this font looks good in Hebrew and English. When printing I use David, but on screen Arial is good. Uri. > >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 21:46, Dotan Cohen wrote: >>> >>> Not a Linux question, but probably relevant for some people here. >>> >>> I'm working on a Hebrew website [1] and although it looks great in >>> Firefox, Opera and Chrome on Linux, IE on Windows diplays terrible, >>> terrible fonts. Which fonts should I specify in the CSS, ones that I >>> can trust look decent and are installed on default Windows >>> installations? I could probably just look at the code for Walla or >>> TheMarker, but I figure that I would get a better answer here. Thanks. >>> >>> [1] http://tikun-mekarerim.co.il >> >> >> >> -- >> Tomer Cohen >> http://tomercohen.com >> > > > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://gibberish.co.il > http://what-is-what.com > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: FOSS alternatives to an MS-Access-based organizational software solution
Hi Eyal, 1. I'm a programmer with about 10 years experience in MS Access and Visual Basic, and also some experience with MySQL. If you are looking for a programmer I might be able to do the job for you. 2. I think MySQL is usually the preferred open source database, if you don't like Access you might want to switch to MySQL. 3. From my experience, programming in Access is easy and many things can be done quickly, with much more effort to do the same things in other programming languages. 4. MySQL is commonly used with PHP. However you can also consider using Java, maybe also GWT. There are other programming options, I'm new to Java so I don't know a lot about them. But I know someone who knows, you might want to hire him as a consultor. If you want his name, write to me and I will send it to you. Good luck! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Eyal Rozenberg wrote: > > (Carrying over a question I asked on Haifux) > > I would like some advice regarding a possible upgrade of an organizational > software application we use at the Technion Graduate Student Organization. > > In fact, while initially what I need is advice and directions, we may soon > be interested in contracting a single developer or a (small?) development > company to entirely replace our existing system with something nice and > FOSSy. > > To describe things briefly, our system: > > - Keeps grad student personal data. > - Records payments and debts. > - Communicates directly or via imported/exported data files with some > Technion and non-Technion systems: The listserv, ANAM, the student tuition > people etc. > - Records non-financial operations such as collecting a gift, > joining/leaving the organization etc. > - Is used simultaneously by more than one person on a network (although it > is extremely rare for two people to try to add or modify db records at the > same time) > > The number of people handled by the system at any given time can range upto > 5,000 (let's make it 10,000 to be on the safe side), and if we keep info > about people active in the past and don't only maintain a snapshot of the > present, then we need to be able to handle, say, 10,000 as a real estimate > for the next several years and 30,000 to be on the safe side. There isn't > any heavy calculation going on, it's all pretty routine and mundane. > > Before talking about our currently operating solution, here are some > questions: > > Q1: What software platforms/toolkits/etc. would you recommend for this kind > of a system? Please be specific, not "do something LAMP-based". > Q2: Do you know of specific software apps, already written, which cover this > functionality and may be easily adapted to our needs (or would not need any > adapting)? > Q3: Do you know people/organizations who run such systems with FOSS > solutions, and would be willing to share their experiences? > > Our system as you may probably have guessed is based on MS Access, with a > front-end-back-end split to ease multi-user use. While it is working well > enough today, it is an endless patch-work, not well documented, without > proper specs for anything, and showing signs of aging with every operation > becoming slower as features are added and the number of people grows. There > are also some foundational architectural assumptions which we want to change > (e.g. the present snapshot vs. full history I mentioned above). > > Q4: Not a list-relevant question, but are more recent versions of Access, or > Access + a full-blown SQL server, options which allow better scaling? > Perhaps with careful coding? > Q5: Does any of you know people we could consult regarding migrating away > from MS-Access to a more capable platform which is both FOSS and is easy to > extend in the way Access-based apps are? > Q6: Is it or is it not worth thinking in the direction of web-based > front-ends to databases, rather than plain vanilla apps? > > > Any other thoughts/comments are welcome. > > Eyal > > PS 1 - We're an organization of mostly non-Technically-oriented people, bear > that in mind. I personally am not in a technical in my organization capacity > despite my background, and it would be difficult to do-it-myself. > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Linux web hosting / LAMP
Hi, I want to build a new social networking website called Speedy Net. I want to use PHP, Javascript and MySQL (LAMP). I am considering where to host this website, where one of the options is using Rackspace Cloud [http://www.rackspacecloud.com]. If I use Rackspace Cloud, I will need to select what type of hosting I want - cloud servers (managed or not), cloud sites or cloud files [https://signup.rackspacecloud.com/signup?id=1238]. I also need to select what Linux distribution to use [http://www.rackspacecloud.com/cloud_hosting_products/servers/technology/index.php#os_apps]. The available options are: Arch 2010.05 CentOS 5.5 CentOS 5.4 Debian 5.0 (Lenny) Fedora 14 (Laughlin) Fedora 13 (Goddard) Fedora 12 (Constantine) Gentoo 10.1 Oracle EL R5U4 Oracle EL R5U3 JEOS Red Hat EL 5.4 Red Hat EL 5.3 Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS (Hardy Heron) I don't know which distribution to choose! I only used Red Hat Linux, about 10 years ago, and even if I select Red Hat - I don't know which one. I don't know the difference between distributions, I just know I need LAMP. What do you recommend? Also, I understand if I choose an unmanaged server, I will need to install everything myself - including Apache, PHP and MySQL? Or are they installed in the distributions? How do I backup the database and files? Do I need to select a managed server? I also received a list of PHP Web Hosting [http://www.webhostingreport.com/best-php-hosting.html], but I'm quite suspicious of "unlimited" web hosting, for around $3.50 per month. How can web hosting be unlimited? Do I really get an unlimited website for $3.50 per month?!? Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Linux web hosting / LAMP
Thank you all for your advice. I read your blog about rackspace cloud, Hetz. You don't like them too much, do you? I think I will prefer not to use shared hosting, but it's a good idea to test the software in shared hosting while in development, and only later move to cloud web hosting. Currently www.speedy.net is hosted on Servage (a shared hosting). It works fine, for example you can check Speedy Whois and my blog. Shahar, is the Zend Server free as in FOSS? or just free of charge? at this stage I tend to use only FOSS, I don't know the advantages of Zend Server and I never used it before. I just read an article about Zend on Calcalist yesterday [http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3450861,00.html], I receive their newsletter. I think Zeev Suraski should not complain about facebook not paying Zend. Free software is free software, and they received a lot of money from Microsoft. Facebook is paying its employees, which many of them are developers, and they also support open source software. I don't think they have to pay Zend for using PHP. By the way, I heard facebook created a PHP compiler to C++. Does it mean they will release it as FOSS? It might speed up websites without having to change anything, just install it and it would speed up your website. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I want to build a new social networking website called Speedy Net. I > want to use PHP, Javascript and MySQL (LAMP). I am considering where > to host this website, where one of the options is using Rackspace > Cloud [http://www.rackspacecloud.com]. If I use Rackspace Cloud, I > will need to select what type of hosting I want - cloud servers > (managed or not), cloud sites or cloud files > [https://signup.rackspacecloud.com/signup?id=1238]. I also need to > select what Linux distribution to use > [http://www.rackspacecloud.com/cloud_hosting_products/servers/technology/index.php#os_apps]. > The available options are: > > Arch 2010.05 > CentOS 5.5 > CentOS 5.4 > Debian 5.0 (Lenny) > Fedora 14 (Laughlin) > Fedora 13 (Goddard) > Fedora 12 (Constantine) > Gentoo 10.1 > Oracle EL R5U4 > Oracle EL R5U3 JEOS > Red Hat EL 5.4 > Red Hat EL 5.3 > Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) > Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) > Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) > Ubuntu 8.04.2 LTS (Hardy Heron) > > I don't know which distribution to choose! I only used Red Hat Linux, > about 10 years ago, and even if I select Red Hat - I don't know which > one. I don't know the difference between distributions, I just know I > need LAMP. > > What do you recommend? > > Also, I understand if I choose an unmanaged server, I will need to > install everything myself - including Apache, PHP and MySQL? Or are > they installed in the distributions? > > How do I backup the database and files? Do I need to select a managed server? > > I also received a list of PHP Web Hosting > [http://www.webhostingreport.com/best-php-hosting.html], but I'm quite > suspicious of "unlimited" web hosting, for around $3.50 per month. How > can web hosting be unlimited? Do I really get an unlimited website for > $3.50 per month?!? > > Thanks, > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > E-mail: u...@speedy.net > Website: http://www.speedy.net/ > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
System admin for Speedy Net (LAMP)
Hi, I want to build a new social networking website called Speedy Net. It will use PHP, Javascript, MySQL and maybe also the Yii framework (LAMP). I need a system admin of this website. If you are interested, I would like to know how much will you charge, or if you prefer some sort of partnership in the website. I received contacts from a few developers, you can see the discussions on the open discussion forum on sourceforge.net [https://sourceforge.net/projects/speedynet/forums/forum/1321736]. If you want I can send you the System Requirements Specification for Speedy Net, and I also posted it on the forum (updated). I need to select a hosting provider, and for this also I would need advice from a LAMP expert. I am considering cloud servers, but I want to know that it will work and I will not lose all the files when I want to upgrade / downgrade the server. If you want to be system admin and have experience with LAMP, please contact me. Best Regards, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers security issue
I hate floating point. if you search Google for 2^1023, you get this result: 2^1023 = 8.98846567 × 10^307 However if you search for 2^1024, you don't get a number at all. Even if you search for 1.999*2^1023 you get a number, but if you search for 1.*2^1023 you don't get a number at all. googol^3 returns a number; googol^4 doesn't return a number at all. Even sqrt(googol^4) doesn't return a number at all. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ 2011/1/5 Hetz Ben Hamo : > Hi, > I just found something related to PHP and handling 32 bit numbers, I wrote > about it here: http://goo.gl/xqQZd > Thanks, > Hetz > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers security issue
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 13:07, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 12:40:14PM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> I hate floating point. if you search Google for 2^1023, > > > >> you get this result: >> >> 2^1023 = 8.98846567 × 10^307 >> >> However if you search for 2^1024, you don't get a number at all. > > Do you prefer to do that in fixed-point? > > It's actually neat to be able to use a relatively low number of bits and > still say something meaningfull about 2^1023 . Actually since long time ago I am thinking about better representation of numbers. I think numbers should be 100% accurate, at least with rational numbers. Using many bits is not a problem now, and also the time it takes to calculate mathematical expressions is much much less than the time it takes to run graphical software, so I think a rational number can be represented by a division of two integers; integers can be represented in binary form and if floating point is used - there should not be any limit to both the accuracy and the exponent. for example if a number needs 1024 bits for accuracy, I think it's not too much, and the exponent should be at least 32 bits long. Many times I want to calculate specific expressions, such as the square root of googolplex, and I think we should move to represent numbers in a way that such calculations will be possible. Anyway I think googol^4 and even googol^1 should always return a result in any calculator. For example ln(googol^1) is a small number, I don't think I have to switch to 1*ln(googol) if I want to calculate it (of course with irrational numbers, we need to define the precision. this should also be user-defined parameter and not fixed). > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is > http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's > tzaf...@cohens.org.il | | best > tzaf...@debian.org | | friend > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers security issue
2011/1/5 Michael Tewner : > > > 2011/1/5 shimi >> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM, shimi wrote: >>> >>> It has something to do with the precision attempting algorithm of >>> floating point numbers, and the way it is done on fpu87 in 32bit processors. >>> It tries to get close to the number below a certain point which is >>> impossible, and the algorithm does not check to see if it is not actually >>> progressing in getting closer to the minimal precision error. Hence it's an >>> infinite loop. >>> >>> Compiling with -mfpmath=sse will also solve the problem. >>> >> >> And a more thorough explanation: >> >> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=323#c109 >> >> -- Shimi >> > > Hi all - > A really great paper concerning floating point representation can be found > at http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html - > > What Every Computer Scientist Should Know About Floating-Point Arithmetic > > -Mike It's a little too long for me to read. Also, isn't there anything new since March 1991? Speaking about numbers, I noticed that when programming in Java, I don't get any exception when the expression I want to calculate overflows the number representation. For example if I calculate 1 * 1 * 1, then I get some strange number without any exception. This is of course a serious bug. Of course I can do 1L * 1L * 1L, or 1.0 * 1.0 * 1.0, but I would expect the compiler at least to throw an exception, or better - to use long integers in this case. This is related to what I previously wrote about numbers - I think compliers and calculators should do their best to represent numbers as accurate as possible and as big (or small) as possible, without bothering the user or programmer with the bit-to-bit details of the number representation. The size of the number (in bits) or speed are less important, what's more important is the accuracy and size of the number. At least there should be an option, when calculating real numbers, to use better accuracy than the floating point "double", which is only 64 bits long. One should be able to select the number of bits used for accuracy, and the number of bits of the exponent. For example - 1024 bits for accuracy + 32 bits for the exponent. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers security issue
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 21:35, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Uri Even-Chen writes: > >>> A really great paper concerning floating point representation can >>> be found at http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html - >>> >>> What Every Computer Scientist Should Know About Floating-Point >>> Arithmetic >> >> It's a little too long for me to read. Also, isn't there anything new >> since March 1991? > > Actually, not very much if you seek understanding. Representing > numbers inside computers is a pretty basic thing that does not change > significantly that often. > > Having said that, the latest incarnation of IEEE754 standard was > published in 2008 (want to read an IEEE standard instead of a > paper?). AFAIK, IBM has HW support for "denormalized" decimals (see > Goldberg's paper) in recent z and Power processors > (http://speleotrove.com/decimal/). You can find papers describing > implementation. > >> Speaking about numbers, I noticed that when programming in Java, I >> don't get any exception when the expression I want to calculate >> overflows the number representation. For example if I calculate 1 >> * 1 * 1, then I get some strange number without any exception. >> This is of course a serious bug. Of course I can do 1L * 1L >> * 1L, or 1.0 * 1.0 * 1.0, but I would expect the >> compiler at least to throw an exception, or better - to use long >> integers in this case. This is related to what I previously wrote >> about numbers - I think compliers and calculators should do their best >> to represent numbers as accurate as possible and as big (or small) as >> possible, without bothering the user or programmer with the bit-to-bit >> details of the number representation. > > This is why recent versions of Java (and C#... oops, sorry) have > BigDecimal - arbitrary precision decimal numbers. If you read > Goldberg's paper you'll get a good idea what they are. Of course, it > is implemented as a user class and not a basic type, and Java does not > allow operator overloading, so even simple arithmetic expressions in > your code look ugly and unwieldy[1]. In a more powerful language like > C++ you can overload arithmetic (and other) operators and arbitrary > precision numbers will look natural in your code. Thank you. I used quite a few programming languages, including C, PHP, Java and MATLAB. I know one can overcome such difficulties, by defining your own class or array. But I think programming languages should be more friendly, and always convert numbers to the best representation, or report overflow cases. In the past, speed and memory were more important than today. Today, graphics and video take a lot of resources, so mathematical calculations can be slower and more accurate - multiplying two numbers with 1024 bits each is much faster than what is used to be 20 or 30 years ago. If one can calculate the first million digits of e [http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/htmltest/gifcity/e.1mil], then I don't see any reason why not to use more accurate representation of numbers, and compilers should do this automatically. For example in PHP, every number should be represented to 100% accuracy, at least when representing rational numbers. Only when calculating irrational numbers one has to specify the accuracy of the calculation. > > If you know what you are doing, it is not terribly difficult > (cf. http://www.docjar.com/html/api/java/math/BigDecimal.java.html). > Others have done it though. E.g., AFAIK IBM's decNumber++ > (http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/decnumberplusplus) is a reference > implementation of the proposed addition to the C++ standard (for C > look for decNumber, http://speleotrove.com/decimal/decnumber.html, > there is a link to code). You need to register to download the code, I > think. > >> The size of the number (in bits) or speed are less important, what's >> more important is the accuracy and size of the number. At least >> there should be an option, when calculating real numbers, to use >> better accuracy than the floating point "double", which is only 64 >> bits long. One should be able to select the number of bits used for >> accuracy, and the number of bits of the exponent. For example - >> 1024 bits for accuracy + 32 bits for the exponent. > > You are on the right track, good thinking! > > [1] I have to deal with Java code using a custom implementation dating > from before BigDecimal was introduced in Java 5. The interface is > the same as the standard BigDecimal, so I can't blame the authors, > but boy, is it a pain to read! > > -- > Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org > Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers security issue
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 00:31, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> It is pointless to make such generalizations, that speed of numeric
> calculation is no longer important. Many applications, including video
> encoding/decoding, games, and much more, basically do calculations in a
> tight loop, and they simply don't need 1024 bits (let alone unlimited)
> precision. They want to have a certain precision, and perform calculations
> fast and with low energy requirements.
>
> What I do agree with you, though, is that there is no longer a reason why
> modern languages should not have built-in unlimited precision integers
> ("bigints") as an *option* in addition to the regular faster types like
> "int", "long", etc. Once upon a time, adding a "bigint" library to a
> language meant that the compiler was bigger, the library was bigger, and
> the book was thicker. With todays gigantic software, nobody cares about
> these things any more.
>
> The question of unlimited precision real numbers (aka "floating point")
> is more complicated - how will you represent simple fractions (like 1/3)
> whose base-10 expansion is infinite? What will you do about results of
> math functions (e.g., log(), sin(), sqrt() etc.) that are irrational?
> Will your number system also start supporting simple fractions and symbolic
> formulas to retain the perfect precision for as long as possible? Pretty
> soon you'll end up with Matematica
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematica)..
> I think a more sensible approach for real numbers is something like what
> "bc" does, i.e., support an arbitrary, but pre-determined, precision.
I think letting the user define the number of bits used for accuracy
and exponent is a good start. If I need 256 bits for accuracy it
would be fine, but defining 1,000,000 for accuracy should work too
(even if slower). By the way, I read somebody calculated the first
trillion (1,000,000,000,000) decimal digits of the number e!
[http://www.numberworld.org/digits/E/] and 5 trillion digits of pi!
[http://www.numberworld.org/misc_runs/pi-5t/details.html]
If there is special need for 100% accuracy, rational numbers can be
represented by the fraction of two integers, for example 1/3 will be
represented as 1/3 and 0.1 will be represented as 1/10. All the main
operations and comparisons can be done with this rational
representation.
If you need to calculate an irrational function, there is no choice
but to specify the accuracy you need. In this case you can use
floating point, or the rational representation - but the result will
not be 100% accurate. But even when using floating point, there are
ways to prevent results such as 2.1 from appearing,
this happened to me for example in Java (using eclipse) when I
calculated addition of decimal numbers, such as 0.01, which don't have
a finite binary representation in floating point. A good compiler can
prevent this, by rounding numbers to less digits than the accuracy
they are represented.
By the way, although I know hardware can be used to calculate floating
point operations, I would prefer to use software - because of the
ability to be flexible and let the user or programmer define the
number of bits necessary for accuracy and the exponent. I think
calculating integer operations is enough for hardware - the rest can
be done by software.
Uri Even-Chen
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Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers security issue
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:49, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Thu, Jan 06, 2011, Uri Even-Chen wrote about "Re: OT: PHP 32 bit numbers > security issue": >> By the way, although I know hardware can be used to calculate floating >> point operations, I would prefer to use software - because of the >> ability to be flexible and let the user or programmer define the >> number of bits necessary for accuracy and the exponent. I think >> calculating integer operations is enough for hardware - the rest can >> be done by software. > > What you're describing is exactly what was common on cheap computers of > the 1980's. > > The 8086, Intel's circa 1978 CPU that is the ancestor of all of today's > PC CPUs, didn't have floating-point instructions. But clearly, the software > floating point performance wasn't good enough, because two years later, in > 1980, intel came out with the 8087, but these so-called "math coprocessors" > were still not common at the time. > > A book about the assembly language of another cheap computer from the same > era, > the Commodore 64, contains the following quote about why the commodore 64 did > floating-point in software: "you pay a tremendous amount for having floating- > point instructions, because computers which have them are so much more > expensive than microcomputers". > > Fractint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractint) is an example of a project > that came out in the era (1988) when the math coprocessors were still not > common, and they did everything humanly possible to avoid using floating-point > operations, and use integers instead (the word "int" even appears in the > project's name). > > So, sure, if your application is a desktop calculator, performance is not > important, and convenience and accuracy is what matters, so go with arbitrary > precision in software. But if your application really depends on calculating > quickly, doing arbitrary precision in software instead of floating-point in > hardware is just about the worst thing you could do to your application... When I was programming Apple 2e machine language during the 1980s, the CPU couldn't even multiply or divide - this was done with software. The CPU could add or subtract, but only 8 bit integers. I guess this was prehistory... Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: What to tell 13 year old kids about Linux and Open Source?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:35, Gabor Szabo wrote: > hi, > > in the school of my son they are interested in getting some 1 hour long > presentations from parents about various interesting subject. > > I could talk hours and days about Linux and Open Source in general > but I wonder what do you think. What would be interesting to 13 year > old kids? > > I am not sure "free speech" is interesting to them and unfortunately > they are probably used to that every software is "free beer". > Given the cheats and cracks. > > So what do you think? I would recommend speaking about the "free as in freedom" concept of Linux and open source software - the 4 freedoms a software user should have, and that copying a software and giving a copy to your friend, modifying software etc. are basic freedoms anyone should have. Then speak about how Linux evolved, history of Linux and the status of Linux today. When I first started to learn programming, in 1983, I didn't know nothing about free software, open source software etc. Only after participating in open source conferences in 2001 and 2002 and reading the book "free as in freedom" (about Richard Stallman) I realized the "free as in freedom" concept and its advantages. Even today I'm still using non-free software such as Windows and Microsoft Office, but today I understand more about it than 10 years ago. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: What to tell 13 year old kids about Linux and Open Source?
Thank you. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:42, amichay p. k. wrote: > i wish there was a "like" in email... > very good idea. > > 2011/1/10 Uri Even-Chen >> >> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 08:35, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> > hi, >> > >> > in the school of my son they are interested in getting some 1 hour long >> > presentations from parents about various interesting subject. >> > >> > I could talk hours and days about Linux and Open Source in general >> > but I wonder what do you think. What would be interesting to 13 year >> > old kids? >> > >> > I am not sure "free speech" is interesting to them and unfortunately >> > they are probably used to that every software is "free beer". >> > Given the cheats and cracks. >> > >> > So what do you think? >> >> I would recommend speaking about the "free as in freedom" concept of >> Linux and open source software - the 4 freedoms a software user should >> have, and that copying a software and giving a copy to your friend, >> modifying software etc. are basic freedoms anyone should have. Then >> speak about how Linux evolved, history of Linux and the status of >> Linux today. >> >> When I first started to learn programming, in 1983, I didn't know >> nothing about free software, open source software etc. Only after >> participating in open source conferences in 2001 and 2002 and reading >> the book "free as in freedom" (about Richard Stallman) I realized the >> "free as in freedom" concept and its advantages. Even today I'm still >> using non-free software such as Windows and Microsoft Office, but >> today I understand more about it than 10 years ago. >> >> Uri Even-Chen >> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 >> E-mail: u...@speedy.net >> Website: http://www.speedy.net/ >> >> ___ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > -- > > "the debate isn't security versus privacy. It's liberty versus control" > Bruce Schneier > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: What to tell 13 year old kids about Linux and Open Source?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 09:48, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote: > These kids are used to these four freedoms, illegal, but works fir them. If software is not open source, such as Windows and Microsoft Office, they don't have the freedom to modify it and redistribute it to friends. This is a basic freedom in free software. Of course one can also speak about the legal issues related to software - copying and redistributing software legally and illegally. By the way you can also speak about copying other files, such as music and videos - legally and illegally. Speak about eMule and Bit torrent (I use utorrent) - how you can use them do download music and films, and the fact that in many cases this is illegal in most countries. But also that one can use them to distribute original files legally, without having to pay for bandwidth and servers. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [r...@gnu.org: Speeches in Israel?]
2011/1/17 Mordecha Behar : > Remember, he is a GNU founder, not a Linux founder. There is a difference. Actually RMS doesn't like the name Linux, and he wants the operating system to be called "GNU/Linux" or "GNU+Linux" and not Linux. I attended an open source conference in 2002 when he attended, and he spoke about it. Personally I think it's a lost battle, and Linux is a good name for the operating system. Especially when there are operating systems such as Red Hat Linux, Debian and Ubuntu, adding the name "GNU/Linux" to them would be too long and confusing. P.S. I searched "linux" in Google and found out that the title on www.debian.org is "Debian GNU/Linux". RMS' battle for GNU/Linux is not completely in vain. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Haifux] [OT][NON-JOB OFFER] Beauty and the Geek 3 (Channel 10)
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: > Clarification: even though I forwarded this to the list as part of my > role as co-webmaster of haifux, and as a service to the community, I > strongly join guy's view, and more: > > Please do not embarrass Haifux/Linux-il by declaring yourselves as > members, when taking part in a stereotypic low-denominator TV program. I suppose you don't expect pretty young girls to use Linux. So I guess you think the men who use Linux are all geeks? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [r...@gnu.org: Speeches in Israel?]
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:50, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > On 17/01/11 10:45, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> Actually RMS doesn't like the name Linux, and he wants the operating >> system to be called "GNU/Linux" or "GNU+Linux" and not Linux. > > How about "Linux+GNU"? I know, let's try to merge them together. How about > "Linuxgnu"? Maybe make it shorter... > > Lingnu? Ask RMS if he likes this name for the operating system... Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [Haifux] [OT][NON-JOB OFFER] Beauty and the Geek 3 (Channel 10)
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda >> wrote: >> > Clarification: even though I forwarded this to the list as part of my >> > role as co-webmaster of haifux, and as a service to the community, I >> > strongly join guy's view, and more: >> > >> > Please do not embarrass Haifux/Linux-il by declaring yourselves as >> > members, when taking part in a stereotypic low-denominator TV program. >> >> I suppose you don't expect pretty young girls to use Linux. So I guess >> you think the men who use Linux are all geeks? > > I think there are many geeks (and I do not mean "hnoonim"=socially > challenged , but people who are autodidact, keen on technology/science, have > a lot of enthusiasm and proud of it) in the FOSS community, both male and > female. I doubt the production was looking for the females, though, when > they asked me to forward this. I think this list is at least 90% men. And the Hebrew word for geeks is חנונים... Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Help me understand connection to internet: Infrastructure and ISP
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 13:33, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Several times I have been caught in the situation in which the > Infrastructure (Hot in this particular case) and the ISP (012 in this > particular case) blame each other for the customer not having internet > access. I need to understand this. > > After two weeks of my mother-in-law not having internet access, during > which 012 blamed Hot and Hot blamed 012, I get there to take care of > the issue. At Hot they tell me that since the modem lights are fine (4 > lit, one flashing) the problem must be with 012. At 012 they tell me > that because she connects without a Dialer (as all Linux customers do) > they cannot trace the problem any further than a superficial check > which checks out OK. 012 "sees" the modem, so they say the problem > must be with Hot. > > Apparently, the ability to trace problems is the reason that Windows > users must use a Dialer. Furthermore, at 012 they inform me that it is > Hot, not 012, that is providing the internet outside because there is > no dialer. They say that they gave Hot "permission" to connect me > directly to the internet this way. So if Hot can provide connections > out, then why do we need ISPs at all? I notice that no other nation in > Europe has this Infrastructure/ISP dichotomy. > > Furthermore, the next time that there is a problem how can I check if > the issue is with the infrastructure or with the ISP? 1. I used both Bezeq and Hot and I prefer Bezeq. Hot's service is really terrible. I'm currently connected with Bezeq and Bezeq International, and I use Gmail + Google Apps as my email provider (not Bezeq International). 2. The law in Israel forbids Bezeq and Hot from connecting people to the Internet without using ISP, since they are both monopolies. You need to have two companies - either Bezeq or Hot + an ISP. But you can make a deal with an ISP to pay for Bezeq or Hot - that's what I am doing with Bezeq International. 3. I'm using Windows with a dialer to connect to the Internet. If you use a router you can configure the router to dial up for you. I really don't know how you can connect without a dialer. 4. When you use a dialer, if you can't connect you get an error message. Tech support people can understand this error message to see where is the problem. You also have lights in your modem, they are also used to track problems. You can contact either your ISP tech support or your infrastructure - I usually call ISP first. 5. I know Bezeq had once options to connect with an ISP without opening an account - you pay per minute but it's very expensive and I don't recommend doing it. Even then when I had technical problems and called Bezeq, they told me to call the tech support of my ISP. 6. Maybe Hevrat Hashmal will start competing with Bezeq and Hot, then we will have 3 companies which means more competition - prices will go down and speed & service will improve. 7. An ideal state will be that a company will not need permission from the government (ministry of communications) to connect people to the Internet (or to phone & fax). Then we can have hundreds of companies with competition - prices will go down and speed & service will improve a lot. But if you live far away from the center you will have less options. Still I think this is the best solution. Anyone wants to change the law?... 8. Next time don't wait two weeks. Switch to Bezeq. 9. By the way, by giving Hot "permission" to connect you to the Internet, I think you must have an account with an ISP, pay the ISP and you are using the ISP - but directly without a dialer. If you check your IP address you will probably see that you are connected via ISP (012.net). Good luck! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
IPv6
Hi everyone, I read Google's tweet "IPv6 marks the next chapter in the history of the Internet" [http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/ipv6-marks-next-chapter-in-history-of.html], and I would like to know what are the consequences of IPv6. I have websites and domain names, but currently I think they work with IPv4 and not IPv6. Will they change them to IPv6? Will I have to change DNS settings for my domain names? And when will this happen? What happens to people whos systems don't support IPv6? Will they not be able to view IPv6 websites or send/receive email from IPv6 users? Or is it backwards compatible with IPv4? Will the DNS system all change to IPv6? Best regards, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IPv6
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:15, shimi wrote: > > You should see this lecture: > > [1/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2clTKh2vFAE > [2/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3i4RRubCvI > [3/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L_9aehQQig > [4/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shmt9U4-rTI Thanks for the links, I listened to the entire lecture. I understand that Google and Facebook still haven't enabled IPv6 on their main websites. http://ipv6.google.com/ doesn't work for me. So I guess it's too early to enable my websites with IPv6. By the way, I wonder what Wikipedia will do with IPv6 addresses? Will they do the same they are doing with IPv4 (save the IP of the user who edited pages)? Will an IPv6 address be permanent for end users, or will it change every day? (I think my IP address at home is not permanent). Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IPv6
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:48, shimi wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:15, shimi wrote: >> > >> > You should see this lecture: >> > >> > [1/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2clTKh2vFAE >> > [2/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3i4RRubCvI >> > [3/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L_9aehQQig >> > [4/4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shmt9U4-rTI >> >> Thanks for the links, I listened to the entire lecture. I understand >> that Google and Facebook still haven't enabled IPv6 on their main >> websites. http://ipv6.google.com/ doesn't work for me. So I guess it's >> too early to enable my websites with IPv6. >> > > Do you have IPv6 connectivity on your machine? If not, how do you expect to > open a session between you and them? (this was explained in the lecture...) > > (Do you want IPv6 connectivity and don't want to wait until Israeli ISPs > wake up? See http://ipv6.he.net ) Actually I don't care. I get the default IPv4 address from my ISP (bezeqint.net). As long as I can see the entire Internet, I don't care to use IPv4. My websites also work with IPv4. I think I will wait for my ISP and web hosting companies to switch to IPv6 when they want to (if they ever decide to do so). As long as Google, Twitter, Facebook and Wikipedia are not using IPv6, I don't see any reason to use it. >> By the way, I wonder what Wikipedia will do with IPv6 addresses? Will >> they do the same they are doing with IPv4 (save the IP of the user who >> edited pages)? >> > > Why not? An IP is an IP... > >> >> Will an IPv6 address be permanent for end users, or will it change >> every day? (I think my IP address at home is not permanent). >> > > I believe it will still be the choice of the providers. There's no technical > reason not to assign any customer a static prefix with many IPs... as there > would be "enough for everybody", and they won't have an excuse on that one > anymore. Of course, there's always the monetary reason (why not make money > off our customers, selling them a $0/mo. worth service at $10/mo. price?) I don't like permament IP addresses. Sometimes I prefer to remain anonymous, and with a permanent IP address a website can recognize me with previous actions (without cookies). For example Wikipedia. I also don't want people to recognize my IP address and actions on Wikipedia (when I didn't use an account). I guess that with IPv6 it will be easier to remain anonymous. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IPv6
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 15:13, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > >> Thanks for the links, I listened to the entire lecture. I understand >> that Google and Facebook still haven't enabled IPv6 on their main >> websites. > > This appears to be the case. > >> http://ipv6.google.com/ doesn't work for me. > > Well it only has an IPv6 address, so it won't if you don't have IPv6 > capability. > > $ host ipv6.google.com > ipv6.google.com is an alias for ipv6.l.google.com. > ipv6.l.google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:8006::63 > > >> So I guess it's too early to enable my websites with IPv6. > > It's not an either/or thing. You can have both IPv6 and IPv4 addresses on > the same host. > > $ host ipv6.he.net > ipv6.he.net has address 66.220.2.75 > ipv6.he.net has IPv6 address 2001:470:0:64::2 > > Anyway, your hosting provider would need to support IPv6 to some extent > before you could do this. I will wait until Google, Facebook, Twitter and Wikipedia will do it, and then I will start worrying about it. Or when my web hosting providers and ISPs will do it for me (I have more than one hosting provider and ISP - for more than one website; connecting at home, work etc.) > >> By the way, I wonder what Wikipedia will do with IPv6 addresses? Will >> they do the same they are doing with IPv4 (save the IP of the user who >> edited pages)? > > I don't see why this would change. > >> Will an IPv6 address be permanent for end users, or will it change >> every day? (I think my IP address at home is not permanent). > > This would be up to yoru ISP, though it would be easier for them to allocate > static addresses and even blocks of addresses so that internal hosts can > have their own address. > > But relying on a dynamic IP address for anonymity is not the best strategy. > ISPs can be forced to reveal the identity of a person using a particular IP > address at a given time. There are other methods like anonymous proxies etc > which can more effectively help you hide your identity, though if you've got > nothing to hide then I wouldn't bother. > > Geoff. > > Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IPv6
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 15:31, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > >> Possibly never, but at least for a long time. The current DNS system is >> IPv4 only, but serves both IPv4 and IPv6. If you have your DNS set up to >> include IPv6, the information will be available, but the client needs to be >> able to interpet it. > > Some root-servers now have IPv6 addresses. Until I started writing this, I > was under the impression that all did, but according to > ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/named.root (which is the authoritative source > for the root-servers list), only A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, > H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, > K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET, L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET and M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET have IPv6 > addresses. Only 2 out of the 13 .net and .com main name servers have IPv6 addresses, although I guess for today that's enough. I checked and all .org and .info name servers have IPv6 addresses. For .il only 2 name servers have IPv6 addresses. For .eg only 1 (out of 3) name server has an IPv6 address. http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/net.html http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/com.html http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/org.html http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/info.html All the major ISPs in Israel's name servers don't have IPv6 addresses. Some of my hosting provider (servage.net)'s name servers have IPv6 addresses. I think they don't define IPv6 addresses to all the name servers, because some users will not work when IPv6 addresses are defined - and they can query only servers who don't have any IPv6 address defined. >> Since BIND is open source software, nothing is preventing you or anyone >> else from adding IPv6 support to it. Eventually someone will do it, and 100% >> IPv6 networks will become possible. > > Are you saying that Bind cannot connect to DNS root-servers over IPv6? What > other functionality is it missing? Certainly we run a virtual server on an > IPv6 connection that also runs an authoritative DNS server for those domains > and we've experienced no problems. I think BIND comes with a default root servers list, and this list is IPv4. Then if you work only with IPv4, you will not have any root server defined. But I'm not sure, last time I checked was a long time ago. By the way, I noticed a problem with one of the .il name servers - ns-il.ripe.net [193.0.12.108] returns the other .il name servers and not the domain's name servers - for example [http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/legacy/?formaction=DNSLOOKUP&ToolFormName=customlookup&name=walla.co.il&r=235660&detail=0&type=MX] (press "Click Here"). Do you know why they added this name server to the list of .il name servers? DNS server handling your query: ns-il.ripe.net. DNS server's address: 193.0.12.108#53 Non-authoritative answer: *** Can't find walla.co.il: No answer Authoritative answers can be found from: co.il nameserver = nsb.ns.il. co.il nameserver = nse.ns.il. co.il nameserver = sns-pb.isc.org. co.il nameserver = nsd.ns.il. co.il nameserver = dns8.denic.de. co.il nameserver = ildns.huji.ac.il. co.il nameserver = lookup.iucc.ac.il. nsb.ns.il internet address = 192.115.210.60 nsd.ns.il internet address = 149.20.56.132 nsd.ns.il has address 2001:4f8:3:37::11 nse.ns.il internet address = 192.115.141.253 ildns.huji.ac.il internet address = 128.139.6.66 lookup.iucc.ac.il internet address = 128.139.34.240 By the way, why do 012 smile (Internet Zahav) and Netvision have only 2 name servers? Is it enough? Do their DNS servers never fail? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
wiping files
Hi everyone, I'm looking for a free software to wipe files (permanently delete files) on Windows. In the past I used PGP, but I prefer a free software. I'm using TrueCrypt, but I didn't find any way to wipe files with TrueCrypt. I tried Google but I can't find this software. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: wiping files
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:51, shimi wrote: > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm looking for a free software to wipe files (permanently delete >> files) on Windows. In the past I used PGP, but I prefer a free >> software. I'm using TrueCrypt, but I didn't find any way to wipe files >> with TrueCrypt. I tried Google but I can't find this software. >> > > You are aware that both the programs you specified are for encryption and > not for wiping files, right? PGP can be used to wipe files. I use TrueCrypt for encryption. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: wiping files
Thank you. Wiping files is part of pretty good privacy (PGP) - if you want privacy you need to wipe your deleted files. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 13:07, shimi wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:51, shimi wrote: >> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> I'm looking for a free software to wipe files (permanently delete >> >> files) on Windows. In the past I used PGP, but I prefer a free >> >> software. I'm using TrueCrypt, but I didn't find any way to wipe files >> >> with TrueCrypt. I tried Google but I can't find this software. >> >> >> > >> > You are aware that both the programs you specified are for encryption >> > and >> > not for wiping files, right? >> >> PGP can be used to wipe files. I use TrueCrypt for encryption. >> >> > It's just a file shredder (similar to Linux's 'shred'), it has nothing to do > with PGP's [encryption] functionality... > > You're looking for a free shredding tool for Windows? > > http://www.google.com/search?q=shred+utility+for+windows 's first result: > http://www.fileshredder.org/ > > -- Shimi > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: wiping files
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 21:30, Michael Tewner wrote: > 2011/2/9 shimi >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Uri Even-Chen wrote: >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Wiping files is part of pretty good privacy (PGP) - if you want >>> privacy you need to wipe your deleted files. >>> >>> >> >> I would trust having them all at encrypted-state at all times (and avoiding >> using swap) to be a must better approach. >> >> I couldn't care less if someone takes my random data which he has no key >> for, and read it for fun... I suspect this is not too different than reading >> /dev/random. >> >> -- Shimi >> > > That's the concept for ZFS secure deletion. As per > http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/5793-Secure-Deletion-with-ZFS.html : > > Use encryption and when you want to delete the data throw away the > matching key. > > And this is exactly the way, secure deletion will be done with ZFS. > It´s done by encryption. You will be able to define an encryption key > by dataset and when you want to delete a dataset securely just throw a > way the key. Remember that creating a dataset is as easy as creating a > directory in ZFS. ZFS Crypto will be the solution for the secure > delete challenge. Secure deletion is different than encryption! Remember that no encryption is 100% safe. With encryption it's still possible to read your data, if somebody finds your key; it's possible that in the future they will be able to decrypt those encryptions; and you might even give the key. With secure deletion it's not possible. Once you delete files they are gone! If somebody is able to read them then it's not secure deletion. And if you have a file you want to encrypt, you should securely delete the original file after encryption, otherwise you didn't do anything. If you just encrypt the file and delete the original file (not securely), then it's still on your hard disk! Secure deletion is very important. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: mail issues questions
Yahoo and Hotmail are very important. Why did you set up SPF and DKIM? what are they anyway? try removing SPF and DKIM for your domain and then send again. By the way, I'm using Google Apps. You might want to consider Google Apps (free account) instead of setting up your own mail server. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ 2011/2/28 Hetz Ben Hamo : > If it was only for me, I could do that, but what would you tell a paying > customer? here's a mail box, but you cannot send emails to Yahoo and > Hotmail? :) > Hetz > > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Oron Peled wrote: >> >> On Monday, 28 בFebruary 2011 02:34:32 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: >> > Any tips what can be done about these 2? (hotmail and yahoo) >> >> Ignore them. They are dead beef... >> >> -- >> Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 >> o...@actcom.co.il http://users.actcom.co.il/~oron >> The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day >> they start making vacuum cleaners - Ernst Jan Plugge > > > > -- > > חץ בן חמו > חץ-ביז (הוסטינג) > השכרה ואירוח של שרתים פיזיים > השכרת שרתים וירטואליים מקצועיים וגדולים במחירים קטנים > בקרו באתרנו בכתובת hetz.biz ובבלוג שלנו: blog.hetz.biz > טלפוןן: 078113/4/5, אימייל: sa...@hetz.biz > מסנג'ר: sa...@hetz.biz - סקייפ: heunique > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: mail issues questions
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 13:10, Nadav Har'El wrote: > This, and similar, anecdotes are examples of flawed spam filtering techniques. > The whole point of spam is that *a lot* of people get it. If just one person > complains, it most likely *isn't* spam. Most people don't complain on spam. If some people complain, most likely that it is spam and nobody wants to receive it. It's very important to include an easy "unsubscribe" link on the bottom of every message sent to a mailing list, so people can unsubscribe from the list. For example, just today I received an unwanted spam message without "unsubscribe". I had to add another filter to Gmail to "archive" and "mark as read" messages from this domain (which is not a forged sender address). It is possible that some people want to get these messages, but if they don't include an "unsubscribe" link then it is spam. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
.htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
Hi everyone,
1. I installed a new cloud server on www.speedy2000.net , it uses Ubuntu
10.04 LTS with apache2, PHP and MySQL. The problem is, currently apache
ignores .htaccess files. I have 2 .htaccess files, one to protect a
directory with username & password and one to redirect to another domain.
Here are the contents of the .htaccess files:
root@www:/var/www/admin# cd /var/www/admin/
root@www:/var/www/admin# cat .htaccess
AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/users/.htpasswd
AuthGroupFile /dev/null
AuthName "Protected Area"
AuthType Basic
require admin
root@www:/var/www/admin# cd /var/www/uri/
root@www:/var/www/uri# cat .htaccess
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /uri/
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /uri/index.php [L]
--
currently both .htaccess files are ignored, for example
http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en/ is not working and
http://www.speedy2000.net/admin/ is visible to everyone. How do I fix it?
root@www:/var/www/uri# /usr/sbin/apache2 -v
Server version: Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu)
Server built: Apr 13 2010 20:21:26
2. *I also had a bug with MySQL* - http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=60331 -
I understand I need to upgrade MySQL. What is the best stable version of
MySQL, and how do I upgrade?
Thanks,
Uri Even-Chen
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: u...@speedy.net
Website: http://www.speedy.net/
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Re: .htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 17:03, ik wrote: > You should use AllowOverride option in the directory settings to be All > rather then none on not existed at all. > > Thank you. Actually I saw http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/htaccess.html , and found out that it's not recommended to use .htaccess at all. Since I have root access, I will try to change it to using server configuration without .htaccess . Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: .htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
OK, I setup file /etc/apache2/sites-available/default , but it's still
not working. I can't log into /admin , and
http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en is "Not Found / The requested URL
/uri/en was not found on this server.". I used
http://www.htmlite.com/HTA006a.php to create admin password (without
salt), what is the problem? And why does
http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en not redirect to
http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/ ? here are the contents of
/etc/apache2/sites-available/default :
-- begin --
ServerAdmin webmas...@speedy.net
DocumentRoot /var/www
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
allow from all
AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/users/.htpasswd
AuthGroupFile /dev/null
AuthName "Protected Area"
AuthType Basic
require admin
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /uri/
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /uri/index.php [L]
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /composer/
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /composer/index.php [L]
ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
# Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
# alert, emerg.
LogLevel warn
CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined
-- end --
Uri Even-Chen
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E-mail: u...@speedy.net
Website: http://www.speedy.net/
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Re: .htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
Oops. I found a bug and fixed it. I replaced "require admin" with "require
user admin" and it works now. I still have a problem with the second problem
- http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en not working.
Uri Even-Chen
Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
E-mail: u...@speedy.net
Website: http://www.speedy.net/
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 18:40, Uri Even-Chen wrote:
> OK, I setup file /etc/apache2/sites-available/default , but it's still
> not working. I can't log into /admin , and
> http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en is "Not Found / The requested URL
> /uri/en was not found on this server.". I used
> http://www.htmlite.com/HTA006a.php to create admin password (without
> salt), what is the problem? And why does
> http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en not redirect to
> http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/ ? here are the contents of
> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default :
>
> -- begin --
>
>ServerAdmin webmas...@speedy.net
>
>DocumentRoot /var/www
>
>Options FollowSymLinks
>AllowOverride None
>
>
>Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
>AllowOverride None
>Order allow,deny
>allow from all
>
>
> AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/users/.htpasswd
>AuthGroupFile /dev/null
>AuthName "Protected Area"
>AuthType Basic
>
>
>require admin
>
>
>
>
>RewriteEngine On
>RewriteBase /uri/
>RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
>RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
>RewriteRule . /uri/index.php [L]
>
>
>
>
>RewriteEngine On
> RewriteBase /composer/
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
>RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
> RewriteRule . /composer/index.php [L]
>
>
>
>ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
>
># Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
># alert, emerg.
>LogLevel warn
>
>CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access.log combined
>
>
> -- end --
>
> Uri Even-Chen
> Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559
> E-mail: u...@speedy.net
> Website: http://www.speedy.net/
>
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Re: .htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
There is another problem - we installed phpmyadmin under /admin directory, and now it requires 2 usernames and passwords - one for /admin and one for phpmyadmin. Even if I enter both usernames and passwords - it doesn't work. Any solution? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: .htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 21:55, Geoff Shang wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > > OK, I setup file /etc/apache2/sites-available/default , but it's still >> not working. I can't log into /admin , and >> http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en is "Not Found / The requested URL >> /uri/en was not found on this server.". I used >> http://www.htmlite.com/HTA006a.php to create admin password (without >> salt), what is the problem? And why does >> http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/en not redirect to >> http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/ ? here are the contents of >> /etc/apache2/sites-available/default : >> > > I'll be the first to admit I'm not big on this stuff, particularly regular > expressions, but I didn't see anything whhich would catch /uri/en > > I want to catch any URL that starts with /uri/ or /composer/ , for example /uri/en or /uri/blog or anything more specific (for example " http://www.speedy2000.net/uri/blog/2011/02/facebook-hacker-cup-2/";). The PHP file redirects the URL to another domain: http://www.speedysoft.net' . $_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']); ?> (currently it's not working. only /uri/ and /composer/ are redirected). > >>AuthUserFile /etc/apache2/users/.htpasswd >>AuthGroupFile /dev/null >> > > I'd think it just better not to specify AuthGroupFile at all, rather than > use /dev/null. I've never had occasion to use it. > > Maybe. but it works with "AuthGroupFile /dev/null" as well. > > AuthName "Protected Area" >>AuthType Basic >> >> >> require admin >> >> > > As you later posted, the require line is not correct here. If you want to > be able to support multiple usernames/passwords, you may want to use: > > require valid-user > > instead. > > Geoff. > > Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: .htaccess files on apache2 + MySQL
OK, I fixed phpmyadmin by changing to 'cookie' authentication mode. It worked. But I got this message: "Cannot load mcrypt extension. Please check your PHP configuration.". I installed mcrypt with "apt-get install php5-mcrypt" and "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart", but now I get the phpmyadmin login page every time even after I successfully login. Without mcrypt it worked. What is the problem now? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 19:04, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > > There is another problem - we installed phpmyadmin under /admin > directory, and now it requires 2 usernames and passwords - one for > /admin and one for phpmyadmin. Even if I enter both usernames and > passwords - it doesn't work. Any solution? > > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > E-mail: u...@speedy.net > Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: IE6 Countdown
2011/3/6 Amos Shapira > > A simple google shows that it's just ~6% in Israel who use IE6: > > http://getclicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/#/marketshare/il/web-browsers/internet-explorer/, > about twice the global average of ~3%. > > Interesting website. I checked Israeli and global statistics for web browsers, operating systems and search engines. Microsoft and Google are monopolies in those categories. I always think about Microsoft software as "dirty", while open source software is "clean". It looks like more than 90% of users use dirty software... In Israel 96% use Windows, and only 0.62% use all versions of Linux. I suppose dirty software sells much much better than clean software... Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: From the Bottom of My Heart
2011/3/11 Ilya Roitburg > Check this http://quantumsolace007.com/info.html It might be useful for u. > Spam. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: flash killer extension for firefox 4
2011/3/28 sara fink : > I just installed firefox 4 only to find out that flash killer isn't > compatible with this version. Someone knows other extension that will do the > job? > > It would be pity to downgrade only for this. I'm using FacePAD to backup my pictures from facebook with Firefox. I decided not to upgrade to Firefox 4 because I don't know if FacePAD will work. Actually I don't need to upgrade Firefox at all, but Firefox upgraded itself to 3.6.16 without my permission. I guess most of plugins will not be compatible with Firefox 4. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: flash killer extension for firefox 4
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 13:54, Udi Finkelstein wrote: > Firefox does not upgrade without your permission. > > Check under "Tools/Options/Advanced/Update", and set "Ask me what I want to > do" instead of "Automatically download and install the update". Thank you. I changed the settings of my Firefox. But if set to "Automatically download and install the update" (which is probably the default), then Firefox does upgrade without your permission. By the way, I'm using Google Chrome as my main browser, and Google Chrome also upgrades without your permission. I don't know if it's possible to prevent Google Chrome from upgrading without your permission. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Can't find uploaded files
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 15:48, Geoff Shang wrote: > Hi, > > This one has me *really* stumped. > > A user uploaded some files via FTP to a server running ProFTPd. Now if one > logs into the FTP server, one can see the files that have been uploaded. > But nothing else can. I can't see them at the shell and I also tried > writing a PHP code fragment to list the directory and it can't see them > either. > > The FTP server listings even survived a restart of ProFTPd. > > Any thoughts? Are these files really there or not? > > If you see the files with ProFTPd then they are there. You can't see them if they are not there. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Tax authorities in Israel
Hi people, I recently had to pay taxes to the tax authorities in Israel (income tax). I think it's amazing that the tax authorities website supports only MSIE. I called their support and asked, they said they don't support Google Chrome or Firefox - only MSIE. I'm using Google Chrome and Firefox with all other websites, including my bank, but only with the tax authorities website I have to use MSIE. I have a bug/virus in MSIE and it took me more than an hour and I tried at least 6 times with 2 computers and 3 people on their support until I could pay my taxes. Shame on them! Maybe the Israeli Internet association should do something about it (revoke their .gov domain!)... Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Tax authorities in Israel
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 21:28, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2011/5/26 Uri Even-Chen : > > Hi people, > > I recently had to pay taxes to the tax authorities in Israel (income > tax). I > > think it's amazing that the tax authorities website supports only MSIE. I > > called their support and asked, they said they don't support Google > Chrome > > or Firefox - only MSIE. I'm using Google Chrome and Firefox with all > other > > websites, including my bank, but only with the tax authorities website I > > have to use MSIE. I have a bug/virus in MSIE and it took me more than an > > hour and I tried at least 6 times with 2 computers and 3 people on their > > support until I could pay my taxes. Shame on them! Maybe the Israeli > > Internet association should do something about it (revoke their .gov > > domain!)... > > I encourage you to write to them and ask. If the site requires any > particular proprietary software to work then it certainly is not a > website. Simply tranfering information via tcp/ip on port 80 does not > make the communication a website. > > I don't have the energy for this fighting windmills. What are the chances that they change it because of me? I already said it verbally to their support team, but I don't have the energy to write them a letter. And also the Israeli Internet association. They know how to be active about issues that matter to them. I guess this issue doesn't matter to them. I think it's a shame on the government, and if I had more energy I might have refused to pay taxes until this issue is fixed. But I use Windows (we actually have two computers with Windows at home), and I can use MSIE if I want to, and eventually it worked. So I paid my taxes. By the way, I don't know what kind of spyware/virus I have, that my MSIE opens with new websites all the time, although I'm using Google Chrome. I think I will try NOD anti virus to check if I have a virus (currently I'm using the free and open source Clamwin). Any suggestion for free software to eliminate this virus? Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Richard Stallman answer to me
2011/6/6 Hetz Ben Hamo > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Richard Stallman > Date: 2011/6/6 > Subject: Re: regarding your (cancelled) Israel visit > To: Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com > > > I don't advocate a blanket boycott of Israeli universities, but I am > not going to campaign against it either. I see where they are coming > from: Israel's occupation policies are horrible. Nonviolent protests > are crushed with persistent brutality. (See > http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=221897.) > > Palestinians who are against violence are looking desperately for > some method of nonviolent resistance. I can't blame them for it > even if I don't agree entirely with the details. Thus, I decided > to follow their policies in the trip they organized. > > I wish I had discussed the issue in advance and avoided > having to cancel a plan I had agreed to. > > I will give at least one talk in Israel, at a non-university venue, > and I am hoping more can be arranged. > > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ > > > I agree with Richard Stallman's views about the Israeli occupation. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 08:13, Omer Zak wrote: > The issue here is not opposing the Israeli occupation but about the > academic boycott. > > Would you find it to be acceptable for the Palestinians to use ABC > (atomic/biological/chemical) weapons to fight the Israeli occupation > "because they are too weak to fight using conventional means"? > Academic boycott is as illegitimate (even if it does not immediately > cause people to die). > I can understand why people boycott Israeli universities. The Israeli universities are strongly related to the Israeli government and are funded by the Israeli government. They are also related to the Israeli military. When people want to express their opinions against the Israeli occupation, one of the ways to do it is boycott Israeli universities. But I understand that Richard Stallman is not completely boycotting Israel, only universities. Therefore his views are not extreme against Israel but only against Israeli occupation. By boycotting the Israeli universities he expresses his views against the Israeli occupation. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 13:17, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > In case you don't know what I am talking about: > > <http://www.bdsmovement.net/> > > Thanks for the link. My opinion is that Richard Stallman has the right to express his opinions against the Israeli occupation, with which I agree, and he has the right to boycott Israeli institutions if he wants to. I don't think it's a reason for anyone not to use Linux, in the same sense that Mark Zuckerberg's decision to kill animals for meat is not a reason for me not to use Facebook (although I object to killing animals). But if you want to boycott Linux or Facebook, you have the right. You don't have to use any of them. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
An alternative to Skype
Hi people, I saw Richard Stallman's signature: > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/ I'm using Skype to communicate with my friends. I mostly use it for instant messaging (not phone calls). I did use it for phone calls in the past, but I don't have a microphone attached to my computer - so today I use regular phone (018). When I used Skype for phone calls, I paid Skype for "Skype out" credit, but Skype zeroed my credit after a few months of not using their service - which I consider stealing money from me. For all that reasons, I don't want to use Skype. But Skype is a monopoly - all my friends use it. Even my grandmother wants to start using it. What free alternatives are there to Skype? (free as in freedom of course). By the way, what do you think about Google talk? I use Google talk from my Gmail account (I didn't download the software). I'm using Windows XP on PC. And Google Chrome as my browser. Thanks, Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 17:07, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote: > By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits. > I tried, but they are thieves. I can't reactivate my credits: Reactivate Skype Credit *Your Balance* €0,00 You do not have any Skype Credit to reactivate. Back <https://secure.skype.com/account/> Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 09:45, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 10, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Marc Volovic wrote: > >> People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support, adhere, >> acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities. >> >> The man is entitled to his opinion and choice. It is his right as a man >> and as a public figure. >> > > > Marc, it has to do with US corporate law and practice. In the US, officers > of a corporation are limited in liability for their actions as corporate > officers. What they do as private citizens is different than what they do as > officers of the corporation. > > This is different than Israeli corporate law, where there is much less of a > "corporate veil". > > When they do something as an officer of the corporation, it takes on a > whole new meaning. It is the stated policy of the corportation. > > If RMS as RMS states what he does, as a private citizen, it is free speech. > He is entitled to his opionions and limited by US laws as to what he can say > and where, but those limits are awfully wide (compared to Israeli ones for > example). > > However, once he signs an email as an officer of the FSF, or states it > publicly that he, as representing the FSF is going to support a boycott (or > not) and so on, it is FSF policy. So like it or not, the FSF has now > incorporated the BDS movement into their message. It's not just FREE > Software, it's also support the Palestinians and boycott Israel. > > If RMS wants to vacation in Ramalah, or sun himself on the beaches of Gaza, > he is welcome to. If he does not want to stay in, vist or even pass through > Israel, (He could enter Gaza from Egypt, or the PA from Jordan), he is > welcome to. However as the President of the FSF his perceived boycott of > Israeli institutions is unacceptable, and dilutes the FSF and it's message. > > Depending upon exactly what he does and does not do, and who provides the > money for his visit, he (and therefore the FSF as he spoke and speaks for > them) may be in volation of US law, and therefore subject to investigation, > tax audits, etc. Quite simply this will not end well for the FSF. > > Geoff. > I don't agree with you, Geoff. What Richard Stallman does as a private person does not mean the FSF in involved. As a private person Richard Stallman has the right to boycott Israeli institutions and universities. It does not mean that the FSF is boycotting Israel. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
2011/6/12 Udi Finkelstein > The number of free software packages where RMS is involved, or even was > ever involved, is very small compared to the whole open software universe. > Even if you decide to boycott the entire GNU projectyou stll have tons of > free software that is not FSF-related. > I disagree. Richard Stallman in the founder of the GNU project and the GPL. About half of all open source software is licenses as GPL. The Linux operating system with all its distributions, GCC complier and many other open source software exist because of Richard Stallman's contributions. I don't recommend anyone to boycott GNU or the FSF. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: An alternative to Skype
Ha ha ha! After writing Skype three times, they agreed to manually reactivate my credits. It's only 2.14 euro, but it's better to have them back in my account. Now I will write them again and ask for a refund. Thanks for the advice! Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 23:27, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 17:07, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote: > >> By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits. >> > > I tried, but they are thieves. I can't reactivate my credits: > > Reactivate Skype Credit > *Your Balance* > €0,00 > > You do not have any Skype Credit to reactivate. > Back <https://secure.skype.com/account/> > Uri Even-Chen > Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 > E-mail: u...@speedy.net > Website: http://www.speedy.net/ > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 22:35, Stan Goodman wrote:
> My guess is that the anti-boycott law has nothing to do with FSF or any
> other voluntary organization (like what is called amutah in Hebrew),
> which is what I understand FSF to be.
>
As far as I know, there is a law in the USA that prevents people and
organizations from boycotting Israel. They are not allowed to refuse to do
business with Israel or Israeli organizations or individuals
("orgranizations" means all kinds of organizations). If the FSF refuses to
do business with Israelis, this may be illegal. But Richard Stallman doesn't
have to speak in Israeli universities - it is his right to choose where to
speak and where not to speak. If they refuse to do business - for example,
sell software - with Israelis then it may be illegal according to USA laws.
Uri Even-Chen
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Re: DNS question
Why not use existing servers such as easyDNS? You can use them as secondary servers as well as primary server if you want to. Anyway, all your name servers should answer queries - otherwise what do you need them for? You want your domain to resolve. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ 2011/6/17 Hetz Ben Hamo > Hi, > > After big frustration from some DNS providers, I've decided to roll my own > with servers here in Israel, Ireland, and 2 US servers. > I've configured the Master in Israel and the rest are slaves. > > I threw some domains, and the sync works great. > > My problem is simple: The server in Israel answer queries from the world, > but should the slaves answer too? > If not, what happens when the master goes down? > > I checked some big names servers (like Yahoo) - their servers don't answer > any queries. > > So should the slave server be configured not to answer any query from > outside? > > (I know it's a non issue in corporates where you can configure both master > and slave answer from internal IP's, but here there are no internal IP's). > > Thanks, > Hetz > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Thunderbird mailer
With all the respect to Thuderbird, I moved to Gmail and Google Apps years ago. I recommend using Gmail or Google Apps for email. Then you can use any computer to read and write mail, not just at home or your laptop. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 15:17, Stan Goodman wrote: > So far, I have not found a way to write a Hebrew message with lines > beginning at the right side of the window. With Kmail it was obvious --- > there were buttons for right, left, and center positioning. Where is > something equivalent in Thunderbird? > -- > Stan Goodman > Qiryat Tiv'on > Israel > > __**_ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/**mailman/listinfo/linux-il<http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il> > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: internet provider problems
Which ISP? I suggest you switch ISP. I'm working with Bezeq and Bezeq International. Uri Even-Chen Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: u...@speedy.net Website: http://www.speedy.net/ 2011/11/27 David Ronkin > Hi all > Sorry - not related straightly to linux but networking - it bothers me for > a while.. > > Did anyone have *constant *issues with NW provider (because of "Lashon > ara" i'm not saying which one) so that instead of 5Mb i get 600-700k?? > Every time i call them - they fix a problem for a day or two and than it > continues.. I have almost a year left for the contract, the thing didn't > happen before?? > > > tnx! > > David > -- > בברכה, > דוד רונקין > נא בקרו בבלוג שלי: http://dronkin.blogspot.com > > > > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers
Dear Linux people, First, I want to apologize if any of you were offended or harassed by the messages I sent to this list about 3 months ago. I didn't mean to offend anybody. I want to ask you something about Linux servers. My father thinks about installing a new server in his company, which will be used both as a mail server, a server for file sharing, and a server for Microsoft Access. The Access program will be executed by a few users simultaneously. Currently there is a Microsoft server which runs the Access program, and it works well. But it's an old server. My father asked an expert from a company we work with, and the expert recommended to use a Microsoft server (Windows 2003). I would like to know if you think that a Linux server is better. Best Regards, Uri Even-Chen = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Converting to UTF-8 encoding
Dear Linux people, In addition to my previous message, I decided it's about time to convert my Hebrew websites from Windows-1255 encoding to Unicode (UTF-8). (By the way, is it a smart decision?) Anyway, since I didn't find a better way to do it - that's how I did it: I opened each file that contains Hebrew text (English files didn't need any conversion) with Windows Notepad, saved it as UTF-8 encoding, then FTP'd it to my Linux server, converted it to unix using dos2unix, edited it with pico and removed the first 3 characters, which are created by Notepad but don't work well with PHP (at least my version, PHP 4.4.2), then I FTP'd it back and replaced the original file. The problem is - it takes too much time for each file, and I have hundreds of files. And also, Notepad doesn't recognize these files as UTF-8 encoded files. Is there a way to do it simultaneously to hundreds of files? Now, when I view these files with SSH, I get all these strange symbols ['���×��× ��×�¨�×, ���×��× ×��× ��×�¢�(c)��, �×�¨�×��× ¨��×, ���×��× � ��× ��(c), �(c)�¢�¨���¨�¦��¤��', and that's a quote]. I also can't edit them with the editors I currently use. Do you know about good editors who can edit UTF-8 encoded files, and also search and replace text within many files simultaneously? I also need the editor to run under Windows, because that's the operating system I currently use, both at home and at work (sorry). And it has to be compatible with Linux and PHP. If you're interested - here's a website I converted: http://www.pazgal.co.il/ And here's a website I didn't convert yet: http://www.speedy.net/ By the way, one of the reasons I decided to convert the website to UTF-8, is because Google displays the page descriptions backwards: http://www.google.co.il/search?hl=iw&q=site%3Apazgal.co.il&meta= Best Regards, Uri Even-Chen
Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers
On 2/17/07, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it a requirement that it be "Access", or should it be "a database server"? It has to be Access - it's not only a database, but a whole program written in Access, with at least 50 forms, at least 100 queries and lots of VB code. I wrote it myself. A few users in the office can use it simultaneously, they can update tables, and Access locks and unlocks records and tables automatically. If a table is locked by one user and another user tries to open it, he is denied. There is also a database of tables with many connections, this is in Access and in general it can be any database, but we are happy with access and we don't want to convert. But if we do decide to convert, we will convert only the tables (there are at least 50 of them) and not the entire program. It's very convenient for us that a few people can use the Access program simultaneously, and we don't want to lose this feature. But as I said, the server will also be used for other purposes, such as a mail server. Access requires Windows, and that's one of the reasons we can't convert the entire office to Linux. Each user has Microsoft Access installed on his computer. It's smart on Microsoft side - we pay lots of money to Microsoft. Windows and Microsoft Office for each computer in the office. In theory I would like to convert the entire office to Linux, but in reality I don't see how it will work. I also think most people, who are not computer programmers, prefer Windows. If they just use the computer for typing Word documents or using E-mail, Windows is usually easier to use or at least that's what they're used to. How many companies do you know, which are not computer companies, who use Linux? Uri. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting to UTF-8 encoding
On 2/18/07, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You can use the following command to convert a single file: iconv -f WINDOWS-1255 -t UTF-8 oldfile > newfile Thanks! It works! Anyone knows about good UTF-8 text editors? Uri. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux servers vs. Microsoft servers
On 2/18/07, Arieh Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How many companies do you know, which are not computer companies, who use Linux? Many. Mostly on servers. Just as your father's company can. I was refering to end users computers and not to servers. I wrote you another message (different subject) about Access. Uri. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MySQL vs. Microsoft Access
On 2/18/07, Arieh Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see only-tables conversion as good first step. There is howto on access-mysql conversion: http://www.kitebird.com/articles/access-migrate.html There is a great feature we use with the tables stored in Microsoft Access. I defined one-to-many connections between tables - at least 50 connections. Access enforces these connections - you can't add a record to the table with "many" if there is not a key in the table with "one" connected to it. You also can't modify the key data on both connected sides, and you can't delete connected records on the "one" side of the connection. If I want to create an Access query, I open the tables database and add tables, and the connections are added automatically. Are there table connections in MySQL? If not, I don't think we will want to use MySQL. I can live without the automatic query feature (although it's very convenient), but without connections the database can get corrupted. Access prevents us from deleting records which are connected to "many" records in other tables, and without the connections they can be deleted. It can create all sorts of mess. For example, if you have an employee with all sorts of data, and the employee leaves the company. If you delete the employee, the data will not be connected and will have an "employee ID" which is not valid. The "employee ID" is just a number, you will not even know who is the employee. Tomorrow you might add another employee and give him the same number, and the data will be connected to him. For example, he can be listed as the person who signed orders, and not the former employee. The Access connections will not let you delete an employee record if it has data connected to it. In this respect, I don't think MySQL is compatible with Access. Uri. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting to UTF-8 encoding
I wrote: > Anyone knows about good UTF-8 text editors? Let me explain: I have to use it on Windows, and I need a search & replace feature on many files simultaneously. Currently I use Crimson Editor, but it doesn't support Hebrew, doesn't display UTF-8 text properly, and doesn't have an "undo" feature for search & replace. I know notepad, but I agree it's not a good text editor, because it doesn't support search & replace (and you can open only one file each time). But on the other hand, it does support Hebrew and UTF-8 encoding (but only if the first character is something specific). Uri. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
