Re: [OSGeoLive] reach out to the projects for version 12.0

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Astrid,

Looks good as is, but it might be worth adding a sentence to complement:

"Note: our documentation translation moved to Transifex"

This statement explains "What", where as communication connects with us 
more deeply when explain the "Why" and "How" as well.


Eg:

"Note: [WHAT] our documentation translation has moved to Transifex, 
which will significantly simplify translation maintenance [WHY]."


(You already have a link to our webpage which explains the [HOW].

if you have not already seen it, this talk on communicating effectively 
is worth watching:


https://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action



On 6/4/18 1:03 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Astrid,

I made some minor edits. Looks good to me.

Best,
Angelos

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 
<astrid_e...@osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_e...@osgeo.org>> wrote:


Hello,

last meeting I could not join.

I read the irc thread.

Yes I can reach out to the projects to get ready for OSGeoLive 12.0

here is the draft for the Mail that I would send to every project.

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:OSGeoLive
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:OSGeoLive>

Could you please have a look?

I no changes are needed I could send the mail in the next days.

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Re: [OSGeoLive] Proposal: Move OSGeo-Live meeting time (due to daylight saving changes)

[Cameron Shorter]

Motion passed. Next osgeolive meeting is on in half a day. (That may be 
Easter holiday for some of you, but I'll be there).


I've updated the OSGeoLive meeting time here: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive#Contact_Us


LocationLocal Time  Time Zone   UTC Offset
New York <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york>(USA - New 
York) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 4:00:00 pm 	EDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt> 	UTC-4 hours
Québec <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/canada/quebec>(Canada - 
Quebec) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 4:00:00 pm 	EDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt> 	UTC-4 hours
San Francisco 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/san-francisco>(USA - 
California) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 1:00:00 pm 	PDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/pdt> 	UTC-7 hours
Auckland 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/new-zealand/auckland>(New 
Zealand - Auckland) 	Tuesday, 3 April 2018 at 8:00:00 am 	NZST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/nzst> 	UTC+12 hours
Sydney 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/sydney>(Australia - 
New South Wales) 	Tuesday, 3 April 2018 at 6:00:00 am 	AEST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aest> 	UTC+10 hours
Perth <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/perth>(Australia 
- Western Australia) 	Tuesday, 3 April 2018 at 4:00:00 am 	AWST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/awst> 	UTC+8 hours
Rome <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/italy/rome>(Italy) 	Monday, 
2 April 2018 at 10:00:00 pm 	CEST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cest> 	UTC+2 hours
Corresponding UTC (GMT) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 20:00:00 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180402T2000> 		


https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20=0=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215


On 31/3/18 6:31 pm, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
Is there a cal file with all scheduled meetings? I might forget less 
ones if I imported that one.


Anyway, next meeting I can not attend anyway.

Kind Regards,
Johan

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:10 AM, Vicky Vergara <vi...@georepublic.de 
<mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>> wrote:


Completely awake at that time +1

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Angelos Tzotsos
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

+1
Angelos

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:45 AM, massimo di stefano
<massimodisa...@gmail.com <mailto:massimodisa...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hi,

+1 , 20 UTC works for me.


Have a painless daylight switch,
— Massimo


On Mar 28, 2018, at 4:39 AM, Johan Van de Wauw
<johan.vandew...@gmail.com
<mailto:johan.vandew...@gmail.com>> wrote:

+1

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:58 AM, Nicolas Roelandt
<roelandtn@gmail.com
<mailto:roelandtn@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi

+1, 20:00 UTC works for me :)

Nicolas

2018-03-28 6:46 GMT+02:00 Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
<astrid_e...@osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_e...@osgeo.org>>:

+1
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Am 27.03.2018 22 <tel:27.03.2018%2022>:26 schrieb
Ben Caradoc-Davies:

+1. 20:00 UTC works for me.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/03/18 09:16, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi folks, daylight saving is changing and
as such, we I'm putting forward a
proposal to change our weekly meeting
time to:


https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018=4=2=20=0=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215

<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018=4=2=20=0=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215>
AddAdd to Calendar

<https://www.timeanddate.com/scripts/ics.php?type=meet=179=189=224=22=240=196=215=2018=4=2=20=0=0

<https://www.timeanddate.com/scripts/ics.php?type=meet=179=189=224=22=240=196=215=2018=4=2=20=

Re: [OSGeoLive] [UN] UN OSGeo Challenge

[Cameron Shorter]

Maria, OSGeo UN Committee, OSGeoLive team,

Great initiative, I'm very supportive.

I'm excited to see OSGeoLive engaged prominently in the criteria. I 
think that OSGeoLive has the potential to be a great asset to the 
education community and this is an excellent initiative to fast track this.


Have you been talking with someone from the OSGeoLive team about the 
practical implementation? (Angelos would be a good start). There are a 
few things that I think need to be thought through:


* OSGeoLive is currently space constrained to our distribution medium. 
Typically a 4 Gig or 8 Gig USB. Large teaching datasets could cause us 
challenges. We have options to address this, but it is something we 
should consider up front.


* OSGeoLive has remained a healthy project for 8 years in part because 
we have ensured our cost of maintenance doesn't exceed our volunteer 
capacity. We need to think through how can maintain any material 
created, and how we can keep maintenance requirements to a minimum.


Re: evaluation criteria:

On 29/3/18 10:45 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:


Evaluation criteria:

 1. Proposer is an OSGeo Charter Member

* I'd suggest this be changed to "has demonstrable experience within the 
OSGeo community". One of our best technical contributors to OSGeoLive, 
who regularly also gave great council, as well as writing very good 
documentation, was someone who shunned titles and has never signed up to 
be an OSGeo Charter member. (As I write this, I think he'd be a good 
candidate for this project - if he could be tempted). There are others 
like him. They shouldn't be excluded from applying.
On the other hand, there are some OSGeo Charter members who have done 
little after joining. I believe creating a "honey-pot" will lead to 
people applying for charter membership for personal benefit instead of 
altruistic reasons.


 1. Proposer’s age (20 if < 40 years old; 0 if >40 years old)

* I question the purpose of this? If you are trying to increase young 
people applying, then an age break at 40 doesn't help the struggling end 
of the age spectrum. (I'd be more inclined to make a break at say 25).
I think you will find older people, will self select themselves out 
based on their typically higher pay grade.

I'd be inclined to remove this criteria all together.

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[OSGeoLive] Proposal: Move OSGeo-Live meeting time (due to daylight saving changes)

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi folks, daylight saving is changing and as such, we I'm putting 
forward a proposal to change our weekly meeting time to:


https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2018=4=2=20=0=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215

AddAdd to Calendar 
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LocationLocal Time  Time Zone   UTC Offset
New York <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york>(USA - New 
York) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 4:00:00 pm 	EDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt> 	UTC-4 hours
Québec <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/canada/quebec>(Canada - 
Quebec) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 4:00:00 pm 	EDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt> 	UTC-4 hours
San Francisco 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/san-francisco>(USA - 
California) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 1:00:00 pm 	PDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/pdt> 	UTC-7 hours
Auckland 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/new-zealand/auckland>(New 
Zealand - Auckland) 	Tuesday, 3 April 2018 at 8:00:00 am 	NZST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/nzst> 	UTC+12 hours
Sydney 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/sydney>(Australia - 
New South Wales) 	Tuesday, 3 April 2018 at 6:00:00 am 	AEST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aest> 	UTC+10 hours
Perth <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/perth>(Australia 
- Western Australia) 	Tuesday, 3 April 2018 at 4:00:00 am 	AWST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/awst> 	UTC+8 hours
Rome <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/italy/rome>(Italy) 	Monday, 
2 April 2018 at 10:00:00 pm 	CEST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cest> 	UTC+2 hours
Corresponding UTC (GMT) 	Monday, 2 April 2018 at 20:00:00 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20180402T2000> 	


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Re: [OSGeoLive] Presentation.

[Cameron Shorter]

Bob,

You should be able to run the presentation from an OSGeo-Live USB. Maybe 
try downloading that.


Otherwise, it sounds like the relative links are not working in whatever 
you have downloaded.


You could try (from a bash command line):

wget -p -k https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html

(this will download a web page, and used pages and convert links for you).

I think if you do a "Save" command from a web browser, it will do 
something similar as well.


Alternatively, look at the source code and search for relative links and 
change them manually. Lines like the following will be likely candidates:



If none of this works, then I'm afraid I'm out of ideas and you will 
need to find someone more helpful than me or work it out for yourself.



On 28/2/18 6:16 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

Hi Cameron,

The “s” options works fine when I run it from the Website (online), 
but when I try to save the presentation locally and run if from a 
local file location, the NOTE aspects are not found.  I can get both 
to work independently (so far).  I downloaded the NOTEs pages locally 
as a separate download,  just trying to link them together correctly, 
in the main presentation.


I want to be able to run without a internet connection, etc.  all 
resources contained on a Thumb drive.


Just looking for hints on where the link might be in the main 
presentation.


bobb



On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Bob,

As it seems you have noticed, the front page of the slide deck [1] says:

/Press "s" for slide notes, ESC to zoom out, SPACE / arrow keys to 
navigate./


It is possible you have been pressing upper case "S" (which doesn't 
work) instead of lower case "s" (which should work).


What should happen is another browser window will open up. If your 
browser has been configured to prevent the opening of popups, then 
that might be the problem you are experiencing. Maybe see if you have 
an error message saying that a window is being blocked from being 
opened, or check your settings, or try a different browser.


Hope that helps, Cameron

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/


On 28/2/18 5:07 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

All (or Cameron),

I’m givong the OSGeoLive presentation next week and I have a 
localized copy of the Reveal.js presentation, but I can’t seem to 
figure out how to easily get the presenter notes.


This is actually the first time I’ve even worried about, since the 
presentation itself just works as a localized set of file, but I 
figured I would try to get the Notes working too.


I want to run from a USB  (HTML) folder.  Again I have the 
presentation just fine, jus tlooking for hints on an easy way to get 
the NOTE working.  I tried a couple of Link changes in the main 
file, but I didn’t see anything obvious that the “S” option 
activates in the HTML.  Still looking.


Thanks

all

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Re: [OSGeoLive] Presentation.

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Bob,

As it seems you have noticed, the front page of the slide deck [1] says:

/Press "s" for slide notes, ESC to zoom out, SPACE / arrow keys to 
navigate./


It is possible you have been pressing upper case "S" (which doesn't 
work) instead of lower case "s" (which should work).


What should happen is another browser window will open up. If your 
browser has been configured to prevent the opening of popups, then that 
might be the problem you are experiencing. Maybe see if you have an 
error message saying that a window is being blocked from being opened, 
or check your settings, or try a different browser.


Hope that helps, Cameron

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/


On 28/2/18 5:07 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

All (or Cameron),

I’m givong the OSGeoLive presentation next week and I have a localized 
copy of the Reveal.js presentation, but I can’t seem to figure out how 
to easily get the presenter notes.


This is actually the first time I’ve even worried about, since the 
presentation itself just works as a localized set of file, but I 
figured I would try to get the Notes working too.


I want to run from a USB  (HTML) folder.  Again I have the 
presentation just fine, jus tlooking for hints on an easy way to get 
the NOTE working.  I tried a couple of Link changes in the main file, 
but I didn’t see anything obvious that the “S” option activates in the 
HTML.  Still looking.


Thanks

all

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Re: [OSGeoLive] draft for press release 82

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Astrid,

I've provided review here:

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Release%2082?action=diff=4

I'd suggest the press release be copied to here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive#Press_Releases

(We generally draft it in this osgeo wiki location, and don't worry 
about creating in a separate location first)


Warm regards, Cameron


On 27/2/18 5:09 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Thanks Astrid,

We will discuss today during the meeting and provide feedback via e-mail.

Cheers,
Angelos

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 
<astrid_e...@osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_e...@osgeo.org>> wrote:


Hello,

I prepared a Press release 82 draft for discussion.

I created it in trac. Hope it was the right place.

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Release%2082
<https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Release%2082>

Could you please have a look and give feedback or edit the page?

Today at our IRC meeting I will not be able to join. So maybe you
can give feedback via mail and I could send the press release
tomorrow.

Have a good meeting and see you next week.

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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Geo4All] GeoForAll teaching and research resources

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Re: [OSGeoLive] OSGeoLive would prefer not to be listed as a Community project

[Cameron Shorter]

While I stand by my original statement, I acknowledge the logistical 
challenge of categorising OSGeoLive within the new OSGeo site (as 
mentioned by Alex), and also respect what Jody is trying to achieve with 
defining suitable categorisation.


I also feel that the issue is small enough that we need not waste a 
significant amount of time debating it. I.e. I'd suggest we leave 
OSGeoLive categorised as a community project for the moment, and hurry 
up and prioritise pushing OSGeoLive through incubation. (Any volunteers 
interested in stepping up? We need help building a list of our software 
list, and confirming that it has an open license - I'm pretty sure this 
is the case.


Cameron


On 23/1/18 11:39 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
That is correct Alex, because "incubation" references a mentorship 
process that the development team is going through ... it has no 
reflection on the technology (or indeed on the teams progress).


The website has three categories:

- listed on the website at all - required to be geospatial, open 
source and accept contributions
- osgeo community - lists projects that are part of team osgeo, but 
have not completed incubation. required to be geospatial, open source 
and accept contirbutions. We ask for a more in-depth check of the 
source code because we are now associated with the project team.
- osgeo project - completed the incubation process, so we trust both 
the code and the teams procedures. Team is recognized as an 
independent committee with osgeo budget etc...


Please review http://osgeo.org/committees/incubation for a better 
explanation, including listing some of the benefits available.


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On 22 January 2018 at 12:40, Alex M <tech_...@wildintellect.com 
<mailto:tech_...@wildintellect.com>> wrote:


On 01/22/2018 12:20 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Hi Jody,
>
> In OSGeo-Live IRC meeting today [1], Brian made a point that he
saw an
> email from you suggesting that OSGeoLive has been listed as an OSGeo
> Community project. This might just be a misunderstanding.
>
> But to be clear, we, the osgeolive project would prefer not to
be listed.
>
> From IRC logs:
>
> CameronShorter: +0, I’d prefer not to have community status
associated
> with OSGeoLive. To me it sets a level of expectation that
OSGeoLive is
> less mature than it is, and also suggests that other projects
with the
> community badge are as mature as OSGeoLive, which I think is not the
> right message to push
>
> [1]
http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2018-01-22.log
<http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2018-01-22.log>
>

That seems to be the tag, that all other projects who have applied for
incubation are under. I guess it's less clear on the new site which
things are applying to become "Projects" and which are not, as some of
the community projects have not applied for incubation.

Cameron, where do you suggest OSGeo Live gets listed instead? It was
added to community because it wasn't listed in either of the
categories
and therefore isn't shown on the navigation menus, so people may never
find it...

Thanks,
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[OSGeoLive] OSGeoLive would prefer not to be listed as a Community project

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Jody,

In OSGeo-Live IRC meeting today [1], Brian made a point that he saw an 
email from you suggesting that OSGeoLive has been listed as an OSGeo 
Community project. This might just be a misunderstanding.


But to be clear, we, the osgeolive project would prefer not to be listed.

From IRC logs:

CameronShorter: +0, I’d prefer not to have community status associated 
with OSGeoLive. To me it sets a level of expectation that OSGeoLive is 
less mature than it is, and also suggests that other projects with the 
community badge are as mature as OSGeoLive, which I think is not the 
right message to push


[1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2018-01-22.log

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Re: [OSGeoLive] Sourceforge project admins

[Cameron Shorter]

Angelos, Alex,

It seems like you two have admin rights to the OSGeoLive sourceforge 
account. You might want to share access with the other OSGeoLive PSC 
members.


Cheers, Cameron


On 2/12/17 9:28 am, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

Vicky,

I have recreated the Trac home page:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/

Sorry, I removed the wordle you added because it was too big and I 
wanted the links above the fold. This is the service entrance so need 
not be pretty.


I also noticed that our SourceForge project is still called "OSGeo 
Live" with a space, its home page still contains "osgeo-live" with a 
hyphen <https://sourceforge.net/projects/osgeo-live/>, and the 
descriptive text still uses OSGeo-Live. I think now would be a good 
time to break incoming links. Does SourceForge allow project renaming? 
Who has admin access?


Kind regards,
Ben.

On 27/11/17 10:17, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Hello Ben

While deleting the old trac pages I think your modifications in the home
page were lost
Can you re-do them please.
Sorry for the inconvenience

Vicky


On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz>
wrote:


On 24/11/17 09:56, Vicky Vergara wrote:


Hello all
The new trac instance for OSGeoLive is ready and can be found here:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive
Please fill any new tickets on that track.
Things TODO:
step 1) Delete from the database tickets that don't belong to 
OSGeoLive

step 2) Clean up old trac from the tickets that belong to OSGeoLive



I have cleaned up the home page (cloned from the main OSGeo Trac) and
added some links.

Could someone with administrative access please change the banner 
logo to

the OSGeoLive logo <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGe
oLive-doc/blob/master/images/osgeolive-logo/osgeolive-logo.png> and the
home page HTML title to "OSGeoLive"?

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Re: [OSGeoLive] My late contribution to todays meeting

[Cameron Shorter]

I'm not so keen on the Trac wiki. I agree is it good to have the wiki 
next to other information about the project, but as I notice from 
Vicky's comments, it seems translating to the Trac wiki format is a problem.


Another logical place to put the wiki would be next to the code, on 
github. Doing a 5 minute search I found this page: 
https://guides.github.com/features/wikis/
It describes how you can use a github wiki, and make use of a wide range 
of wiki formats which I assume would include the mediawiki format we 
currently use. I'd suspect if we googled further we'd find an import 
tool as well.


So I'd like to consult "the Oracle", ie "the Vicky" (and others) to hear 
whether that would be a good idea?


On 28/11/17 10:55 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Hello all

Sorry that I cold not be in the meeting today, I had a presentation to 
a group of students in a University in Mexico at the time of the meeting.


About his presentation I used OSgeoLive project as follows:
In front of the students I talked about how PSC members have to 
approve PR regardless if the PR is from a casual contributor or a 
volunteer or from other PSC member, emphasising in that it is 
important for keeping a high quality in the FOSS project. For this I 
used this PR as an example:

https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/348

About the meeting:
I noticed that the meeting main part was about using OSGeoLive trac's 
wiki or to have our own wikimedia


In any case I started experimenting on the trac's wiki and "moved" 
some mediawiki pages to the trac's wiki.

Note that I consider this as an experiment so:
- OSGeo mediawiki I did not touch
- I made copy/paste (no date preservation)
- darkblue-b started categorizing OSGeo wiki pages so that we can find 
the pages that belong to our project


Here are the pages on trac's wiki that I experimented on
In this one:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Use_History
comers from this one:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History

I successfully changed the links of the contact names by adding an 
"osgeowiki" entry here:

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/InterMapTxt

In this one:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Release%20List
only has the press releases of this section
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases
This other ones has blog entries that are mixed up on the press releases
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Blogs

Besides adding manually by copy paste all the press releases, so no 
dates are preserved, if you know how to do it preserving dates please 
be my guest on teaching me, took me one day to copy and reformat to 
the trac's wiki mark up language


I first added this year's press releases, but after that I started 
adding from the first press release. (kind of simulating the date 
preservation by adding the first one before the second one and so on)


On some press releases I tried to fix some links, but some are broken. 
So I just thought I wont bother to fix links yet, because this is an 
experiment.


A small clarification:

I didn’t say I want pgRouting wiki pages on OSGeo wiki, I said:

01:17:20cvvergara:Sorry, so you are implying that for example: I shall 
put pgRouting wiki pages on OSGeo wiki because then I can get more 
visitors?

http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-11-26.log

Fortunately, as a project, pgRouting has its own wiki, unfortunately 
right now OSGeoLive don't have it's own wiki. we use OSGeo wiki but we 
don’t have our own.



I apologize because I was not around in the meeting to clarify and 
write up my concerns.

I am there now, if you want to ask things.

Vicky
PS I love bencaradocdavies because of this comment :) :) :)
19:59:47bencaradocdavies:darkblue_b, I do not think we have a quorum, 
and more importantly, we do not have a Vicky.





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Re: [OSGeoLive] Motion 1+2: Appoint Astrid Emde as connecting person to the Marketing Committee and USB manager

[Cameron Shorter]

+1 to both motions. Thanks Astrid.


On 21/11/17 10:07 am, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

+1 for both motions.

Thanks Astrid :)

Le 20 nov. 2017 23:31, "massimo di stefano" <massimodisa...@gmail.com 
<mailto:massimodisa...@gmail.com>> a écrit :


+1 for both motions.

Thanks Asrtid for taking care of these.

—Massimo.

> On Nov 20, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
<astrid_e...@osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_e...@osgeo.org>> wrote:
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> Hello OSGeoLive team,
>
> at todays IRC meeting I volunteered to be the person who will
manage USBs and will take care of the OSGeoLive budget and be the
connecting person to the Marketing Committee.
>
> We discussed not to ask for OSGeoLive budget, but to ask
Marketing Committee to provide some extra money for our needs (I
alredy ask Marketing Committee for it).
>
> Motion1: Appoint Astrid Emde as connecting person to the
Marketing Committee
>
> Motion2: Appoint Astrid Emde to manage USBs (with the technical
help of the team if needed)
>
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [Live-demo] Contributing agreenment

[Cameron Shorter]

To date,

OSGeoLive's contribution criteria has followed the process set out at:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Git_migration

Read from "Commit access"

I suggest we should continue with the same or similar wording.


On 7/11/17 11:48 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Thanks for the information.



On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha <j...@geomaster.pt 
<mailto:j...@geomaster.pt>> wrote:


Hi Vicky​,

If you want to work on a Contributor License Agreement, we might
consider the alternative Developer Certificate of Origin (DCO).

Check Even Rouault' message on [OSGeo-Discuss] on Nov. 5. I'll forward
it to this list, just in case.

Regards,

Jorge Gustavo

On 07-11-2017 00:32, Vicky Vergara wrote:
> Lost & found ...
>
> There is this first draft of a Contributing agreement made by
Nicolas
>
>

https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/add_contributing.md/CONTRIBUTING.md

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Re: [Live-demo] welcome to OSGeo incubation!

[Cameron Shorter]

Press release looks much better now. Thanks for cleaning up.

Astrid, I'm happy if you want to work with Jody to get the press release 
published.



On 8/11/17 6:26 am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello,

the text looks good to me.

Just fixed some OSGeoLive spelling.

https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_81=revision=110743=110742 



Astrid

Am 2017-11-07 20:10, schrieb Jody Garnett:

Thanks cameron, added a quote and a couple of blurbs (one about OSGeo
live as an initiative - rather than a download) and one about
Incubation.

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On 6 November 2017 at 02:04, Cameron Shorter
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I've started a press release here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_81 [1]

Feel free to add content. We can talk about it in our weekly IRC
meeting in ~ 9 hours:


https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=19=30=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215 


[2]

Jody,

We already have a head start on the incubation graduation checklist:


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist
[3]

On 6/11/17 6:17 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

Thanks Astrid, happy to work with you on this - if we time it right
we can have the checklist, incubation logo and press release all up
at the same time.

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On 5 November 2017 at 22:46, Astrid Emde (OSGeo)
<astrid_e...@osgeo.org> wrote:
Hello Jody,

great news.

I already made a small tweet about it

We could work on an OSGeo-Live press release about it. I saw your
second mail afterwards.
https://twitter.com/osgeolive/status/927425409498669056 [4]

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases [5]

We can discuss it in todays irc meeting (unfortunately I will not be
able to join today). In the next days I could help with the press
release.

Astrid

Am 2017-11-06 07:25, schrieb Jody Garnett:
I guess I can start the ball rolling, would anyone like to join me
in
drafting an news item announcement. These usually take the form of a
press release, so a quote from the OSGeo Live leadership would be
helpful.

There is a new logo for you to consider:
https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation [6]

The incubation logo can (at your option) be placed on your website,
linking to your graduation checklist to show progress.

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On 5 November 2017 at 22:19, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I would like to welcome the OSGeo-Live project to the incubation
process; I have volunteered to be your mentor (sign up to the email
list and answer any questions that come up).

The key thing for incubation is have a chance to review how the
project works, emphasizing being geospatial, open source, and fair
:) While that may sound simple/obvious it can take a bit of work and
we are glad to help.

To start out with can I invite everyone to read the Project
Graduation Checklist [1], we will be making a copy of this
(preferably on your wiki) and going through it together. Incubation
can be done very quickly, and I am hopeful that the OSGeo Live
project can set a new standard.

Please note that as your mentor I am also available for private
email, some of the issues we touch on during incubation may be
sensitive in nature and we would like to treat them with respect.

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[1]


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[2]
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[3] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist
[4] https://twitter.com/osgeolive/status/927425409498669056
[5] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases
[6] https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation
[7] 
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Re: [Live-demo] [Translation] Project name change

[Cameron Shorter]

Nicolas,

I suspect someone could do a global find and replace across all docs to 
achieve this.



On 7/11/17 7:52 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:
I relay here the announcement [1] I made on the Transifex platform 
about the (small) consequences of the Project name change on our 
translation process.



Hi dear translators and OSGeoLive users,

Yesterday, the OSGeoLive team decided to simplify the name to get more 
constituency between platforms. Formerly, you can see it with a space 
or an hyphen depending if it was on the website url, IRC and such.
So the PSC decided over a camelcase syntax, OSGeoLive, without space. 
We updated  the Transifex resources files accordingly.


It was not expected, so all the translated strings have to be 
retranslated.


Hopefully, it is just the project name to change so you can use the 
suggestion on the right side, choose the 99% suggestion (there is a 
`use this` button) and remove the hyphen (or space) from previous 
translation. It can also be done during reviewing.


For new translations, please take the change in account and update the 
project name if we missed it in the resources.


Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks again for your work here, we will be starting soon the battle 
testing with all those translated strings.


Best regards,

Nicolas Roelandt
For the OSGeoLive team

[1] https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/announcements/7892/


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Re: [Live-demo] welcome to OSGeo incubation!

[Cameron Shorter]

I've started a press release here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_81

Feel free to add content. We can talk about it in our weekly IRC meeting 
in ~ 9 hours:


https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=19=30=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215

Jody,

We already have a head start on the incubation graduation checklist:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist


On 6/11/17 6:17 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:
Thanks Astrid, happy to work with you on this - if we time it right we 
can have the checklist, incubation logo and press release all up at 
the same time.


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On 5 November 2017 at 22:46, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 
<astrid_e...@osgeo.org <mailto:astrid_e...@osgeo.org>> wrote:


Hello Jody,

great news.

I already made a small tweet about it

We could work on an OSGeo-Live press release about it. I saw your
second mail afterwards.
https://twitter.com/osgeolive/status/927425409498669056
<https://twitter.com/osgeolive/status/927425409498669056>

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases>

We can discuss it in todays irc meeting (unfortunately I will not
be able to join today). In the next days I could help with the
press release.

Astrid

Am 2017-11-06 07:25, schrieb Jody Garnett:

I guess I can start the ball rolling, would anyone like to
join me in
drafting an news item announcement. These usually take the
form of a
press release, so a quote from the OSGeo Live leadership would be
helpful.

There is a new logo for you to consider:
https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation
<https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/tree/master/incubation>

The incubation logo can (at your option) be placed on your
website,
linking to your graduation checklist to show progress.

--
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On 5 November 2017 at 22:19, Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com <mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

I would like to welcome the OSGeo-Live project to the
incubation
process; I have volunteered to be your mentor (sign up to
the email
list and answer any questions that come up).

The key thing for incubation is have a chance to review
how the
project works, emphasizing being geospatial, open source,
and fair
:) While that may sound simple/obvious it can take a bit
of work and
we are glad to help.

To start out with can I invite everyone to read the Project
Graduation Checklist [1], we will be making a copy of this
(preferably on your wiki) and going through it together.
Incubation
can be done very quickly, and I am hopeful that the OSGeo Live
project can set a new standard.

Please note that as your mentor I am also available for
private
email, some of the issues we touch on during incubation may be
sensitive in nature and we would like to treat them with
respect.

--
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Links:
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Re: [Live-demo] [Traduction] A quick update

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Nicolas,

It is inspiring to hear about so many people being involved. It would 
probably be worth reporting on the translation status periodically, 
maybe every month or so.



On 31/10/17 9:39 am, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi all,

I was late for the meeting so I wasn't able to speak about the test phase.

So far, we have 30 collaborators (thanks to them) and 15 languages [1] 
(among the new comers: Catalan, Russian, Dutch, Hungarian, Polish, 
Portuguese etc).


Some translators came back after being idle for sometime so it is great.

French has the lead with 10 % translated, followed by Spanish (5.54%)  
and Italian (4,48%). We hope that the tendency will keep up.



Plus Jorge publish our news on osgeo.org <http://osgeo.org>:
http://www.osgeo.org/node/1829


Best regards,

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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on OSGeoLive 11.0 artwork?

[Cameron Shorter]

Johan's right, I haven't heard of anyone printing OSGeo-Live DVDs for a 
few years now. OSGeo-Live is either being run in a Virtual Machine or 
from a USB.


(We probably should be updating our documentation to reflect this).


On 25/10/17 11:24 pm, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:

Suchith,

I am actually not a fan of putting OSGeo live on a dvd. The
performance is very poor for todays standards, and many pc's don't
have a dvd anymore.

Has anyone actually tried running OSGeo live 11 from dvd? I would
definitely try this with some common applications before printing a
large number.


Kind Regards,
Johan

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Suchith Anand
 wrote:

Thanks Steven, Jo for informing. I am as first step doing OSGeo Live DVDs (2000 
nos) and then only plan to get USBs. I have contacted the same supplier that Jo 
mentioned who supplied  FOSS4G 2013 DVDs, so they should have  experience on 
this . I have asked them to  download  from the correct ISO that Brian 
specified and check one before mass producing.

btw can anyone let me know where to find the OSGeo Live 11.0 artwork  so I can  
 make use of it for the logo printing in DVDs. Thanks.

Best wishes,

Suchith







From: Steven Feldman 
Sent: 25 October 2017 9:45 AM
To: Jo Cook; Anand Suchith
Cc: live-demo
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on bulk suppliers of OSGeo 
Live USB/DVDs

Suchith

Might be a good idea to trial and test before producing a lot of USBs
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On 25 Oct 2017, at 08:42, Jo Cook 
> wrote:

Hi Suchith,

There seem to be options for downloading 32bit or 64bit isos. I'm honestly not 
sure which would be best- personally I'd go for 32bit to ensure maximum 
coverage, eg so that it works on old machines but others may have a different 
opinion.

Jo

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Suchith Anand 
> wrote:
Hi Jo, all,

Many thanks for the contacts for this. I have contacted the DVD supplier for this and to 
download from https://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html and got query back "The link 
has multi options for downloading ISO files and it's not 100% clear what link I should 
use for the ISO"

Could someone  help me provide the correct link, so I can reply to the supplier 
so they can download the correct version . Thanks.

Best wishes,

Suchith



From: Jo Cook >
Sent: 11 October 2017 9:35 AM
To: Anand Suchith
Cc: live-demo; u...@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-UK] Help needed to get info. on bulk suppliers of OSGeo 
Live USB/DVDs

Hi Suchith,

It took a while for me to dig out this information, but this is the company 
that we used for FOSS4G 2013:

http://www.vponline.co.uk/quote.html
Total cost for 800 units - DVD - in clear plastic wallet
* Inkjet colour = £290
* Inject colour with waterproof coating = £520
* Thermal colour = £636

For reliable USB drives, at Astun we use a company called USB2U and we go for 
this model:

Twister USB 3.0 Flash Drive 8GB - White

These seem to come in at around £4.12 per item but I don't know how many we buy 
at a time to get that rate.

Hope that helps

Jo

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Suchith Anand 
>>
 wrote:
Hi all,

This is a request for help. I am discussing ideas with GODAN colleagues on how 
to expand ideas for AgriGIS Capacity Development and I have put forward 
suggestion to provide OSGeo Live USBs/DVDs for the training programs etc. This 
will ensure the participants have in addition to the training all the free and 
open geo tools and sample open geodata to take away and be empowered.

I remember some years back for OSGIS conferences in Nottingham, I arranged 
OSGeoLive DVDs but I don’t now remember details of the suppliers. Could I 
request if you have contacts of reliable suppliers (ideally in the UK), that I 
can contact to get quotes for bulk suppliers on the price of the flash drives 
(8GB) and DVDs with  OSGeoLive and GODAN logos and all content loaded (download 
from https://live.osgeo.org/en/download.html  )  and checked for  all USBs/DVDs 
supplied.

I hope once we do this for few training programs we will be able to expand the idea for the 
future. Please email me at 
suchith.an...@godan.info>
the contact details of USB/DVD suppliers who can do this, so I can request quotes. Thanks in 
advance for your help.

Best wishes,

Suchith



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Re: [Live-demo] Should we create an OSGeo-Live translators email list?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi all, in our OSGeo-Live weekly meeting yesterday we decided not to set 
up an OSGeo-Live translation list for now.


Reason being that we have a number of translators agree with Kari's 
point that it can be managed by convention within the OSGeo-Live list.


We can reassess in a few months if people think that such a list is needed.

Cheers, Cameron


On 24/10/17 2:59 pm, Vicky Vergara wrote:
Hi, Messages to translators can be done using transifex, they just 
need to be registered as translators.

That would generate less traffic to normal mail.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ko Nagase <nag...@georepublic.co.jp 
<mailto:nag...@georepublic.co.jp>> wrote:


Hi Cameron, list,

+0

I can't expect how much traffic will the new translation mailing
list have.
So, I think that starting from putting [TR] in the subject (as Richard
Wrote) is better
until the each translators get used to the new Transifex way.

I agree with creating the new translation mailing list
when its traffic becomes too much and the questions become varied in
each language.

Regards,


2017-10-21 3:33 GMT+09:00 Cameron Shorter
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>  aware of, and separately being emailed to the
live-demo@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org>
> email list. Please reply only to live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
<mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org>>
>
> OSGeo-Live translators,
>
> Over a number of months Vicky and Nicholas have been setting up
a Transifex
> for OSGeo-Live which looks like it is going to be hugely
valuable for the
> OSGeo-Live translation effort. They are now reaching the point
where they
> are ready to start talking about it with OSGeo-Live translators
and we would
> really like to hear the opinions of OSGeo-Live translators.
>
> If you are not subscribed to our list, it would be great if you
could
> subscribe, and then check emails on this list at least for the
next few
> weeks:
>
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
<https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo>
>
> The first question we are asking is whether a separate OSGeo-Live
> translation email list should be set up. What do you think?
We've had the
> following comments so far:
>
>
> On 20/10/17 5:34 pm, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
>
> On 20-10-17 07:47, Kari Salovaara wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> personally I don't see necessary to create yet-another mailing list.
> Reasons are simple, this list is not busy, there is very limited
number
> of messages. It's very good, even mandatory, for translator to know
> what's happening in application. Also it's good for developers
to know
> what are the issues and topics in translation process.
>
> Well, as an outsider, I second this...
>
> At QGIS we have/had several mailing lists and some of them are
just too
> quiet (our tr list is almost void, people prefer the 'community
list').
> Same with the GUI/UI list we had, often you needed the input
from devs
> too... So we stopped it.
>
> Note that often the translation questions are either incrowd
(what do we
> use as germans for this word), or technical (why do I have to
give two
> translations for this (singular/multiple).
>
> Better to maybe use a [TR]-subject-convention in the dev list:
put [TR]
> in the subject when it is translating related
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
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Re: [Live-demo] Fwd: WIP mail for translator

[Cameron Shorter]

On 24/10/17 2:06 am, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
It would be also good to add the links to IRC and mailing list at the 
last sentence.


If you have any question, please join us on IRC or on this mailing 
list [4]


[4] OSGeo-Live contact us: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Contact_Us


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[Live-demo] Should we create an OSGeo-Live translators email list?

[Cameron Shorter]

I'm aware of, and separately being emailed to the 
live-demo@lists.osgeo.org email list. Please reply only to 
live-demo@lists.osgeo.org>


OSGeo-Live translators,

Over a number of months Vicky and Nicholas have been setting up a 
Transifex for OSGeo-Live which looks like it is going to be hugely 
valuable for the OSGeo-Live translation effort. They are now reaching 
the point where they are ready to start talking about it with OSGeo-Live 
translators and we would really like to hear the opinions of OSGeo-Live 
translators.


If you are not subscribed to our list, it would be great if you could 
subscribe, and then check emails on this list at least for the next few 
weeks:


https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo

The first question we are asking is whether a separate OSGeo-Live 
translation email list should be set up. What do you think? We've had 
the following comments so far:



On 20/10/17 5:34 pm, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:

On 20-10-17 07:47, Kari Salovaara wrote:

Hi,

personally I don't see necessary to create yet-another mailing list.
Reasons are simple, this list is not busy, there is very limited number
of messages. It's very good, even mandatory, for translator to know
what's happening in application. Also it's good for developers to know
what are the issues and topics in translation process.

Well, as an outsider, I second this...

At QGIS we have/had several mailing lists and some of them are just too
quiet (our tr list is almost void, people prefer the 'community list').
Same with the GUI/UI list we had, often you needed the input from devs
too... So we stopped it.

Note that often the translation questions are either incrowd (what do we
use as germans for this word), or technical (why do I have to give two
translations for this (singular/multiple).

Better to maybe use a [TR]-subject-convention in the dev list: put [TR]
in the subject when it is translating related

Regards,

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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: That we set up an OSGeo-Live Translators email list

[Cameron Shorter]

Kari, Richard,

Thanks for sharing your translating experience regarding translations 
and email lists. I'll be really interested to hear from other 
translators as well. What do translators think is the most effective 
form of communication?


I'll send an email to each of the OSGeo-Live translators I'm aware of 
and invite them to contribute to this email thread (they may need to 
join the email list first).



On 20/10/17 5:34 pm, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:

On 20-10-17 07:47, Kari Salovaara wrote:

Hi,

personally I don't see necessary to create yet-another mailing list.
Reasons are simple, this list is not busy, there is very limited number
of messages. It's very good, even mandatory, for translator to know
what's happening in application. Also it's good for developers to know
what are the issues and topics in translation process.

Well, as an outsider, I second this...

At QGIS we have/had several mailing lists and some of them are just too
quiet (our tr list is almost void, people prefer the 'community list').
Same with the GUI/UI list we had, often you needed the input from devs
too... So we stopped it.

Note that often the translation questions are either incrowd (what do we
use as germans for this word), or technical (why do I have to give two
translations for this (singular/multiple).

Better to maybe use a [TR]-subject-convention in the dev list: put [TR]
in the subject when it is translating related

Regards,

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[Live-demo] Motion: That we set up an OSGeo-Live Translators email list

[Cameron Shorter]

As per mail thread below, Nicolas and Vicky have been doing some awesome 
work setting up Transifex, and are at the stage where they are about to 
start engaging OSGeo-Live translators.


I think it would be useful to set up an OSGeo-Live translators email 
list, where translators can hang out without needing to being distracted 
by the rest of OSGeo-Live development.


So I'm putting a motion forward to set up an OSGeo-Live translators 
email list. This motion will wrap up during our OSGeo-Live weekly 
meeting this coming Monday / Tuesday (depending on where you live).


+1 Cameron

Assuming the motion passes, I think we need to ask the SAC to set it up 
for us.



On 19/10/17 4:07 pm, Baka Niko wrote:

Hi Cameron,

Thanks for the review.
I'll need guidance to set up the new mailing list.

How do I do ? Sending a mail to SAC ? to mail...@lists.osgeo.org 
<mailto:mail...@lists.osgeo.org>.?


Best,

Nicolas



2017-10-18 21:42 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:


Hi Nicolas,

Press release is fine. I've made a few changes [0]. I work on the
concept that "Less words get read more". Assume most people will
only read the first sentence or two.

I suspect that it would be useful to set up an
OSGeo-Live-Translators email list, which I suggest setting up
before sending out this "call to action" for translators. Send
something like:

"I notice that you have translated OSGeo Live before. Are you
still keen to stay involved? (I hope so.) We are setting up an
OSGeo-Live-Translators email list, would it be ok if we included
you on the list?"

Cheers, Cameron

[0]

https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_80=revision=110344=110317

<https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_80=revision=110344=110317>
On 18/10/17 8:45 am, Baka Niko wrote:


Hi Cameron

Here is my  first draft email (I also prepared a press release
[4]). Can you review it before sending ?

Best,

Nicolas


Dear OSGeo-Live contributors,

As you might know, we are working on translating OSGeo-Live
Documentation using the Transifex Platform.

We choose that in order to provide a better translation
experience than the old .rst files and git one.
It will help us doc building process of course, but we also add
machine translation capabilities (thanks to ) to
help translators.

It adds a review part too, that was sometimes not possible with
the old system (when the merger didn't speak the language), so it
will help us provide better quality documentation.

All that said, the platform is online [1], ready to test. So we
need early translators to battle test it with several languages,
writing systems and such.

We are in the moment where we can start testing the
infrastructure and our first draft of the translator guide [2].
For testing the infrastructure, translated files are needed, you
can translate based on the priority mark, or on the amount of
lines to be translated, or complete a translation that someone
else started, or start with your project. Note that we already
marked files that don't need translation.
Some feedback about the guide is 100% useful. (probably the guide
is more for a reviewer than for a translator)

If the images below don't show in your mail, they are included in
our translator guide [2]


If you have any question, please join us on IRC or on this
mailing list.

Vicky Vergara and Nicolas Roelandt
OSGeo-Live team

[1] https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/
<https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/>
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<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive_Translation_Process#WORK_IN_PROGRESS>
[3] https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/languages/
<https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/languages/>
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Re: [Live-demo] Fwd: WIP mail for translator

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Nicolas,

Press release is fine. I've made a few changes [0]. I work on the 
concept that "Less words get read more". Assume most people will only 
read the first sentence or two.


I suspect that it would be useful to set up an OSGeo-Live-Translators 
email list, which I suggest setting up before sending out this "call to 
action" for translators. Send something like:


"I notice that you have translated OSGeo Live before. Are you still keen 
to stay involved? (I hope so.) We are setting up an 
OSGeo-Live-Translators email list, would it be ok if we included you on 
the list?"


Cheers, Cameron

[0] 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_80=revision=110344=110317

On 18/10/17 8:45 am, Baka Niko wrote:


Hi Cameron

Here is my  first draft email (I also prepared a press release [4]). 
Can you review it before sending ?


Best,

Nicolas


Dear OSGeo-Live contributors,

As you might know, we are working on translating OSGeo-Live 
Documentation using the Transifex Platform.


We choose that in order to provide a better translation experience 
than the old .rst files and git one.
It will help us doc building process of course, but we also add 
machine translation capabilities (thanks to ) to help 
translators.


It adds a review part too, that was sometimes not possible with the 
old system (when the merger didn't speak the language), so it will 
help us provide better quality documentation.


All that said, the platform is online [1], ready to test. So we need 
early translators to battle test it with several languages, writing 
systems and such.


We are in the moment where we can start testing the infrastructure and 
our first draft of the translator guide [2].
For testing the infrastructure, translated files are needed, you can 
translate based on the priority mark, or on the amount of lines to be 
translated, or complete a translation that someone else started, or 
start with your project. Note that we already marked files that don't 
need translation.
Some feedback about the guide is 100% useful. (probably the guide is 
more for a reviewer than for a translator)


If the images below don't show in your mail, they are included in our 
translator guide [2]



If you have any question, please join us on IRC or on this mailing list.

Vicky Vergara and Nicolas Roelandt
OSGeo-Live team

[1] https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/ 
<https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/>
[2] 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive_Translation_Process#WORK_IN_PROGRESS 
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive_Translation_Process#WORK_IN_PROGRESS>
[3] https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/languages/ 
<https://www.transifex.com/osgeo/osgeolive/languages/>

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Re: [Live-demo] Open Vote: OSGeo Live Logo

[Cameron Shorter]

Angelos,

Lets call this vote closed. It is not controversial, and has been 
supported in IRC too.


I guess a lesson for us is that we should follow Jody's lead and declare 
the time period for a vote when we start it.


Cheers, Cameron


On 13/10/17 9:08 pm, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi,

I see that all votes (8) so far are in favor of option #1.
Should we consider this done? We never set a voting period so I guess 
48h is enough? Or should we leave the voting open until our next 
meeting (where we can make a motion to accept the new logo)?


Best,
Angelos

On 10/10/2017 12:23 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

Sure. Everyone please indicate your preferred new OSGeo Live logo:
https://doodle.com/poll/8722qwdnenphsirw

The candidates are:

Triangle (emblem by Alex M, text by Ben):
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/attachment/ticket/1993/osgeo-live-logo-white.png 



Swing (by Jürgen):
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/attachment/ticket/1993/osgeo-live-cymk.svg

Heart (by Luca):
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/attachment/ticket/1993/OSGeo_live1.svg

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 10/10/17 09:36, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
I would prefer this to be an open vote, not just a formal PSC 
motion, since we did not hear feedback from the community.


How about we start a voting procedure with all three options?

Cheers,
Angelos

On 10/09/2017 11:03 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
I move that we adopt this new OSGeo Live logo (PNG version with 
white background):
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/attachment/ticket/1993/osgeo-live-logo-white.png 



The logo uses the emblem proposed by Alex M.

Variants are attached to the trac ticket:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1993

These include: Inkscape SVG for editing; a PNG version with a 
transparent background; and a simplified SVG with text converted to 
paths to avoid font problems.


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Re: [Live-demo] Change IRC meeting start time to 19:30 UTC?

[Cameron Shorter]

+1, this works for me.


On 3/10/17 9:03 am, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
I propose that we change the IRC meeting start time to 19:30 UTC to 
accommodate daylight saving changes. Next meeting would be:
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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Google Code-in mentors - OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Vicky suggested the Google Code-In at our last OSGeo-Live weekly IRC 
meeting.


OSGeo-Live could be a good starting point to initiate tasks for 
activities. In particular, I think we could invite students to create a 
video for each of the OSGeo-Live quickstarts (1 task = 1 application's 
quickstart video).


The task could be:

* Download OSGeo-Live.

* Review and run one of the OSGeo-Live quickstarts.

* Discuss progress with community

* Identify any errors you might locate in the quickstart text. Raise an 
issue if required. (Bonus points: fix the issue and create a pull request)


* Record running of the quickstart with voice over, using the existing 
script as guidance.


* Update our index documentation page to include a link to the video and 
add the student's name to the project contributor's page. Create a git 
pull request.


--

What the student will learn:

* How to engage an open source community and mentor via an email list.

* How to download and run an image in a virtual machine

* How to work with a linux gui. (Lubuntu)

* How one OSGeo application works

* How to do QA and raise an issue in an issue tracker

* How to make a simple change to HTML and create a git pull request

* The student will additionally have their video linked from our main 
web page (assuming it is good), and will have their name added to the 
OSGeo-Live's list of contributors.


--

Mentoring requirements would be relatively light for each student, 
however we have ~ 50 projects, so handling that many students would be 
best done if we were to get 10+ mentors to help with basic git and bug 
reporting.


We would need a mentoring champion to lead this. Anyone interested?

--

A variant on this task we floated was to create Jupiter Notebooks for 
each project on OSGeo-Live, but that would require a lot more setup from 
the OSGeo-Live end, more work from the students (in particular in 
writing scripts) and more mentoring in teaching students how to program 
Notebooks. My gut feeling is that Notebooks is a bit much.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 29/9/17 6:52 am, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:

Dear OSGeo Community,

a few days ago we had a virtual kickoff meeting about Google Code-in. [1]

* What is Google Code-in [2]:

"Pre-university students ages 13 to 17 are invited to take part in Google Code-in: 
Our global, online, contest introducing teenagers to the world of open source. With a 
wide variety of bite-sized tasks, it’s easy for beginners to jump in and get started no 
matter what skills they have. Mentors from our participating organizations lend a helping 
hand as participants learn what it’s like to work on an open source project."
  
* How it works [3]:
  
1  Students search for a task that interests them and claim it. They have at least three days to complete it.

2  The student works on the task, getting guidance from mentors, if needed.
3  Once the student is ready, they submit their work for review through the 
contest website.
4  Mentors from the organization evaluate the work, provide feedback, and if 
it's complete, accept it! Otherwise, specific feedback is provided, and the 
student goes back to step #2!
5  Go to step #1 and repeat!

* Example tasks may be:

** Coding
- Add a new (simple) option to a GRASS python module
- ...

** Documentation/Training
- Make a video introducing the various projects under OSGeo
- ...

** Outreach/Research
- Write a fancy blog post about the new cool QGIS 3D capabilities
- ...

** Quality Assurance
- Add a Test Case for xyz to the GDAL testsuite
- ...

** User Interface

- Add icons for specific GIS task
- ...

* Time effort of the tasks should not be longer as 3 to 5 hours!!!


Members of other orgs, which participated in the last years, have joint our 
kickoff meeting.

Lessons learned from the last years' participations:

* a strategic plan needed to generate a pool of tasks doable in 3-5 hours 
(beginner to advanced tasks); from ~50 up to ~100 tasks!!
* a large enough mentor pool that the contest can going on over the period to 
tackle evaluations of about ~ 100 tasks!!

If you are a willing mentor, just write to gsoc-admin(at)osgeo.org and a form 
to fill in will be sent to you.

At the moment, the mentor pool seems not be large enough to apply for Google 
Code-in.

What we have heard from other orgs already participated: Google Code-in is fun, 
nice results for e.g. outreach, though the workload has to be planned
  
Kind regards


Helmut (on behalf of the OSGeo GSoC admin team)
OSGeo charter member

[1] 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Google_Code_In_2017#Kickoff_.28virtual.29_meeting
[2] https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/
[3] https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/how-it-works
[4] https://developers.google.com/open-source/gci/resources/example-tasks
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Re: [Live-demo] osgeo-live where to list on new website?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Vicky,

On re-reading my message, I can see that I wasn't clear in the intent of 
my message. It sounds like I'm acting as a bit of a dictator. Sorry.


This is hopefully closer to what I should have said:

1. Yes, in our meeting we decided to push forward with incubation

2. In our meeting no decision was made re applying to be a community 
project, with some people raising concerns. I was one of the people 
raising concerns about registering osgeolive as a community project.


Cheers, Cameron


On 4/9/17 8:05 pm, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi,

Indeed, the motion was to apply for incubation.
We did not decide anything about applying for being a community project.

So the action item on me is to apply for incubation.

Best,
Angelos

On 09/03/2017 06:43 AM, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Cameron
In the Monday meeting we decided to apply for incubation.
Was a PSC decision.
If we are not applying to incubation, then another meeting is needed 
to see

if the PSC decides to apply for community project.
Its not a one person decision, I think.

Vicky




On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com>

wrote:


Hi Jody,

I raised concerns in the OSGeo-Live meeting about becoming an OSGeo
community project. I feel that we are a lot more mature than a 
community
project implies, and would prefer to delay until we are ready to 
incubate.


Also, we are actually very progressed in the incubation process and I'm
expecting we should be able to complete incubation within a few months.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 2/9/17 10:32 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

Sure, can you jump on the incubation list and apply to be an OSGeo
community project now?

And yes please open a trac ticket to apply for incubation.

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On 2 September 2017 at 03:26, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Hi Jody,

In our last weekly meeting we decided to apply for OSGeo 
Incubation, so

that we can finally be listed as an OSGeo Project.
I will open a trac ticket with the application within the next 48h.
I hope you are still interested to be our mentor through this process.

Best,
Angelos


On 08/25/2017 08:13 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:

Looking at the site map for the new website OSGeo Live kind of 
belongs in

two spots:

- http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/osgeo-live/
- http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geoforall <-- no page 
yet, but

is the location used on the site map

Note I have had to remove OSGeo-Live from the "mega menu" since it 
is not

an OSGeo Project (has not completed incubation) or an OSGeo Community
project (has not asked to be recognized as such).




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Re: [Live-demo] osgeo-live where to list on new website?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Jody,

I raised concerns in the OSGeo-Live meeting about becoming an OSGeo 
community project. I feel that we are a lot more mature than a community 
project implies, and would prefer to delay until we are ready to incubate.


Also, we are actually very progressed in the incubation process and I'm 
expecting we should be able to complete incubation within a few months.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 2/9/17 10:32 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:
Sure, can you jump on the incubation list and apply to be an OSGeo 
community project now?


And yes please open a trac ticket to apply for incubation.

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On 2 September 2017 at 03:26, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Jody,

In our last weekly meeting we decided to apply for OSGeo
Incubation, so that we can finally be listed as an OSGeo Project.
I will open a trac ticket with the application within the next 48h.
I hope you are still interested to be our mentor through this process.

Best,
Angelos


On 08/25/2017 08:13 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:

Looking at the site map for the new website OSGeo Live kind of belongs in
two spots:

-http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/osgeo-live/
<http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/osgeo-live/>
-http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geoforall
<http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/initiatives/geoforall>  <-- no page yet, but
is the location used on the site map

Note I have had to remove OSGeo-Live from the "mega menu" since it is not
an OSGeo Project (has not completed incubation) or an OSGeo Community
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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] osgeo live logo, and website presentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Jody,

Some help from the marketing team with a mock up would be welcomed. 
(While we agreed on a concept of a "play" icon we haven't had a 
volunteer step up to create the logo).


I hadn't read the overnight email trail before our OSGeo-Live meeting 
(an issue with being on a 6:30am conference call). Although we voted for 
the Play icon, I can see potential in the lightning emoji that Ben 
suggested as well. It would be interesting to see a mock up of a 
"OSGeo⚡LIVE" as well.


Maybe have the "play" button for the icon, and "OSGeo⚡LIVE" for text.

Re fonts and colours, I expect existing fonts and colours should be fine.

Jugen, re the "playground" suggestion. While I see potential value in 
it, but could be seen as child and not a serious option. (We do want 
OSGeo-Live to be taken seriously.)


Warm regards, Cameron

On 29/8/17 4:37 pm, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Hm, reading "play" triggered a association with "playground" here - while the
meant "play" is more used for consuming a film something.

How about using something like
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pictograms-nps-land-playground.svg  ?



On 28/8/17 2:09 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

Oh wow Ben - do it like OSGeo:UK bur using emoji "OSGeo⚡LIVE"

Points for Thunderstruck reference now I have it stuck in my head.
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:21 PM Ben Caradoc-Davies <b...@transient.nz 
<mailto:b...@transient.nz>> wrote:


I like neither the heart (more "love" than "live") nor the laptop (too
complex and tied to one technology). I think more of live electricity
and live performance.

How about a lightning symbol? Or just leave the nice clean new OSGeo
compass and use the text "Live" or "LIVE" or "⚡ LIVE ⚡" (with the
Unicode HIGH VOLTAGE SIGN) where projects have "Project"? This would
avoid brand dilution. Something like:

OSGeo
⚡ LIVE ⚡



On 30/8/17 5:12 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

I like it - good insight!

The marketing committee is here to encourage everyone, so if you are 
happy we are happy.


Do you need a hand making a mock up or are enough assets available in 
github for you to work with? I am also interested in application of 
fonts and text, are there enough options for the OSGeo live team to 
work with?



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On 28 August 2017 at 18:13, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


All, in our OSGeo-Live weekly meeting today [1] we discuss a new
OSGeo-Live logo and came to the conclusion that a "Play" logo
would be a good way to convey what we stand for. (OSGeo-Live
allows people to run OSGeo applications). While a traditional play
logo is a right pointing triangle in a circle, we were thinking we
could put a right pointing logo inside the outer ring of the OSGeo
logo (replacing the inner star).

This would address our goal of being tied to OSGeo, but also
linking to our project attributes.

Is this something that people in the marketing committee would
consider acceptable? (Hopefully so, as a prior suggestion from the
marketing committee was similar - putting a heart in the middle of
the OSGeo ring).

Warm regards, Cameron

[1]
http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-08-28.log
<http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-08-28.log>


On 28-Aug-17 2:25 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:

What we did in the style guide is be clear about what is going on:

1) osgeo mark and logo
2) sub brands - use the osgeo mark with different text (two
presentations are available to allow of OSGeo:UK style)

And then:

3) distinct brands - use their own mark. Distinct marks are able
to use the color and fonts and some branding elements to be
visually part of OSGeo (but because they use their own mark they
are forming a distinct  brand)

We have used GeoForAll and OSGeo Live as examples of distinct brands.

This was a case of us not being familiar with the terminology
around branding, hopefully armed with the above breakdown it will
be easier to explain.

We went back with the graphics designer multiple times learning
more each meeting. This produced things like the OSGeo:UK
alternate text for a sub brand, and experimented with a few
examples of distinct brands. We also have some unknowns,
specifically what to do on twitter and facebook for avatar
pictures for osgeo local chapter feeds. We would like to use the
osgeo mark unaltered but the format does not allow for that and
the circle avatar design target limits options (it is intended
for a face after all).

Please have a look at page 5 of the style guide at the top of
this thread.

See page 5 here -

https://github.com/OS

Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] osgeo live logo, and website presentation

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> Looking at the branding style guide, there is some ambiguity
between the
> goal of allowing sub-brands (which would involve being creative
with how
> the logo is used with other graphical concepts) and dos and
don'ts which
> state not changing the logo. I suggest Dos and Don'ts be
suggestions and
> goals rather than hard rules in order to enable people to be
creative.
> Eg: if a chapter wanted to use their country's flag colours
within the
> logo, I think that should be ok. It is in the designer's
interest to try
> and align with the core OSGeo-Logo, so they will likely do a
good job of
> making it obvious there are OSGeo roots.
>
> Eg: Spanish logo:
>

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Cap%C3%ADtulo_Local_de_la_comunidad_hispanohablante

<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Cap%C3%ADtulo_Local_de_la_comunidad_hispanohablante>
>
> For OSGeo-Live, I'm expecting we will want to work out a way to
weave a
> heart (or some other image aligned with "live") into the logo
somehow.
> We may want to retain the blue heart. That should be ok and up
to us to
> do a good job of deciding that.
>
> You might notice OSGeo-Live has broken the style guide by using
the logo
> in over another image in our screenshot:
>
> https://live.osgeo.org/_images/osgeolive_menu.png
<https://live.osgeo.org/_images/osgeolive_menu.png>
>
> In previous releases we have used washed out versions of the
logo, of
> large, off-center parts of the logo. It was artistic and looked
good,
> and provided the link back to OSGeo. We should empower the creative
> people in our community to be creative in that way.
>
> The guide is prescriptive about only being shown on a white
background.
> Again, that should be a recommendation rather than a rule. If I
have a
> presentation template with a light blue background, I should be
able to
> put a logo over the top, without needing to create a white
square to put
> under it. As a creator, I should be able to decide which looks best.
>
> Cheers, Cameron
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Re: [Live-demo] osgeo live logo, and website presentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Jody, others,

Looking at the branding style guide, there is some ambiguity between the 
goal of allowing sub-brands (which would involve being creative with how 
the logo is used with other graphical concepts) and dos and don'ts which 
state not changing the logo. I suggest Dos and Don'ts be suggestions and 
goals rather than hard rules in order to enable people to be creative. 
Eg: if a chapter wanted to use their country's flag colours within the 
logo, I think that should be ok. It is in the designer's interest to try 
and align with the core OSGeo-Logo, so they will likely do a good job of 
making it obvious there are OSGeo roots.


Eg: Spanish logo: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Cap%C3%ADtulo_Local_de_la_comunidad_hispanohablante


For OSGeo-Live, I'm expecting we will want to work out a way to weave a 
heart (or some other image aligned with "live") into the logo somehow. 
We may want to retain the blue heart. That should be ok and up to us to 
do a good job of deciding that.


You might notice OSGeo-Live has broken the style guide by using the logo 
in over another image in our screenshot:


https://live.osgeo.org/_images/osgeolive_menu.png

In previous releases we have used washed out versions of the logo, of 
large, off-center parts of the logo. It was artistic and looked good, 
and provided the link back to OSGeo. We should empower the creative 
people in our community to be creative in that way.


The guide is prescriptive about only being shown on a white background. 
Again, that should be a recommendation rather than a rule. If I have a 
presentation template with a light blue background, I should be able to 
put a logo over the top, without needing to create a white square to put 
under it. As a creator, I should be able to decide which looks best.


Cheers, Cameron


On 27/8/17 2:44 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Jody,

We should add this to the agenda for our next weekly meeting:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20=30=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> wrote:


We are getting some requests for a new osgeo-live logo on the
marketing email list - but that decision rests with the community
here.

We have a number of ideas on the table, including one from the
graphics designer (as included in the style guide). See page 5
here -

https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/marketing/branding/styleguide-osgeo.pdf

<https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/marketing/branding/styleguide-osgeo.pdf>

What would be a good way to proceed? I am happy to make a motion
based on the above.
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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live Mission and Future - was BOF

[Cameron Shorter]

Brian,

You have eloquently presented the current state of OSGeo-Live and the 
foundations for future opportunities and growth.


I particularly agree with your caution about creating multiple 
documentation baselines for OSGeo, (it creates a maintenance challenge) 
and the recommendation of retasking the same material in multiple contexts.


Cheers, Cameron


On 5/8/17 9:34 am, Brian M Hamlin wrote:

HI Jody, All -

  In the past with OSGeo-Live, I have described the Mission Statement 
in three parts:


Reference Install ;  Showcase for Projects  ;  well-chosen (curated) 
examples


  WIth the release of Live 11 and the massive advance in Debian 
packaging, I believe the future is not one project. This can be seen 
as "evolution" .. it is natural for a large and mature project to 
split ..

  Website ;  Server Edition  ;  Desktop Linux
-
   with the new OSGeo web site development.. somehow I realized that the
docs from OSGeo-Live should be the same docs in the new OSGeo web 
site. Rebuilding docs is too much work, and too many parts, to 
duplicate. Instead,

build once and deploy in several contexts. -
  credit to Angelos Tzotsos and Debian Developer Sebastian Couwenburg
The "server edition" of OSGeo-Live is simply UbuntuGIS PPA,
with DebianGIS aka pkg-grass as the "upstream" in many cases.. -
  that leaves "desktop Linux" Ubuntu.. what remains of the OSGeo-Live. 
Critically speaking, it has been twenty years (or more) that I have 
been active,
of promises of "desktop Linux" .. in fact, Windows and phones have 
spread,
with some percentage of Mac OSX from Apple in various demographic 
groups. Web browsing is constant, phone use is constant and climbing, 
and .. no desktop
revolution with Linux of any kind.  OSGeo-Live right now, is basically 
desktop Linux. -
 Another note on Ubuntu.. as people likely know, the number one cloud 
VM instance
is Ubuntu.. and last I heard, Google uses an Ubuntu fork for much 
within its cloud walls. The "server edition" of OSGeo-Live is.. Ubuntu 
packaging.. this bodes well.. -


I am interested in participating in a BOF, but from my point of view, 
I think we should
consider the OSGeo-Live 11 as somewhat an "end of an era" .. and move 
forward

with eyes open to new, productive avenues for valuable efforts.
  best regards from Berkeley, California
   -Brian M Hamlin


On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 15:41:07 -0700, Jody Garnett 
<jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:


Is anyone up for an OSGeo Live BOF:
Also I finally uploaded photos with the OSGeo-Live team from foss4ge:
(example|example|group). Could I ask the team to select one of these 
for a group photo for the new website?


Had a productive meeting with the graphics designer about subbrands on 
wednesday - and had a good ideas for us to try out: rather than reuse 
the circle, reuse the small compass shape. Tried putting the compass 
shape in a computer logo and the result looked like what OSGeo-Live 
is. Also did one putting the heart in a computer frame as a reference.

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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 11.0 status: distribution

[Cameron Shorter]

Nicolas,

Re "more senior than me": Yes, I have been around for longer. I might 
even have more experience. But:


1. For a community to be robust, it shouldn't have a single point of 
failure, or be dependent on one person (or a small team) who become 
overworked.


2. A robust community has worked out how to bring new people into the 
fold, and help them become as productive as they wish to be. This means 
having a supportive, encouraging culture.


3. We are a Do-ocracy.

4. We will be stronger, and look stronger from externally if we 
demonstrate multiple people of influence.


5. I'm capped out with my volunteer time, and am wanting to start 
tackling another bold initiative (without ignoring my responsibilities 
to OSGeo-Live). [1]


6. I've been continually impressed with OSGeo-Live initiatives you and 
other recent people have been taking on, and am very encouraging and 
hopeful you will continue and get as much out of OSGeo-Live as I have in 
the past.


7. Super-chickens: [2]

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1krgA5ezksF6RjlKKUFnBzhqa87EwqnJOEa9HsRFg85Q/edit#heading=h.dlrann1ydgi6
[2] 
https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_why_it_s_time_to_forget_the_pecking_order_at_work


On 4/8/17 5:42 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi Cameron,

Sorry i was offline, yesterday.

I think we can release it that way. It is the point of being reviewed, 
and you are more senior than me.
I think we should  wait for the website to be updated, unfortunatly we 
are behind schedule.



It makes a lot to discuss on monday :)

Nicolas

2017-08-03 22:39 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:


Hi Nicholas,

Comments inline. Feel free to make updates to the press release as
you see fit.


On 3/8/17 9:36 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Cameron,

I simply copy-past the previous one and updated the data.

Yes, that is what we usually do, I suggest have a quick look at
the 10.0 press release.


I'm ok with the short introduction, because I had the idea but
not the words to explain what we did. Thanks for that.

I let the software versions because I think it  is interessing to
know. Like "I use the same version of that, ok. Oh, there is a
major version of this, let's look at that."

I understand the all or nothing in that case. So I'm more for the
all.

I'm ok with that. So either include versions of all packages on
OSGeo-Live, or none, or just those that have changed, or select
out just those that have major changes (as was done in the 10.0
release). (You had a subset of packages is listed.)


About dropped projects, we should have a word about that since
people might read only news about releases.

I've added a mention that we have removed some projects, but have
not identified them by name. My reasoning is that it may be seen
as a bit painful for the communities being retired from
OSGeo-Live, and it is respectful to not emphasis this.
However, I'm ok to be over-ruled.



Best,

Nicolas


    Le 3 août 2017 13:05, "Cameron Shorter"
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> a
écrit :

Thanks Nicolas,

I've reviewed the press release and made a few minor changes.
A couple of formatting/syntax issues, I don't think we need
to call out the specific projects we have dropped, and I've
copied a few words "about this release" from the presentation.

I notice that the list of applications was incomplete, and I
don't think listing the applications adds much value, so I've
dropped that.


On 3/8/17 2:46 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi all,

I'm writing the press release for the 11.0 release and the
errata page. Please feel free to review and edit them:

Press release:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79>

Errata page:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0>


    Best,


Nicolas


2017-08-02 12:40 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:

Thanks Nicolas, I'm happy to review when you are done.


On 2/8/17 6:22 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi,

I can work on the press release this evening.

Best,

Nicolas

Le 2 août 2017 09:35, "Angelos Tzotsos"
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>>
a écrit :

Hi all,

Since there was a week of testing without a blocker
issue being reported, on the weekly meeti

Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 11.0 status: distribution

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Nicholas,

Comments inline. Feel free to make updates to the press release as you 
see fit.



On 3/8/17 9:36 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Cameron,

I simply copy-past the previous one and updated the data.
Yes, that is what we usually do, I suggest have a quick look at the 10.0 
press release.


I'm ok with the short introduction, because I had the idea but not the 
words to explain what we did. Thanks for that.


I let the software versions because I think it  is interessing to 
know. Like "I use the same version of that, ok. Oh, there is a major 
version of this, let's look at that."


I understand the all or nothing in that case. So I'm more for the all.
I'm ok with that. So either include versions of all packages on 
OSGeo-Live, or none, or just those that have changed, or select out just 
those that have major changes (as was done in the 10.0 release). (You 
had a subset of packages is listed.)


About dropped projects, we should have a word about that since people 
might read only news about releases.
I've added a mention that we have removed some projects, but have not 
identified them by name. My reasoning is that it may be seen as a bit 
painful for the communities being retired from OSGeo-Live, and it is 
respectful to not emphasis this.

However, I'm ok to be over-ruled.


Best,

Nicolas


Le 3 août 2017 13:05, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> a écrit :


Thanks Nicolas,

I've reviewed the press release and made a few minor changes. A
couple of formatting/syntax issues, I don't think we need to call
out the specific projects we have dropped, and I've copied a few
words "about this release" from the presentation.

I notice that the list of applications was incomplete, and I don't
think listing the applications adds much value, so I've dropped that.


On 3/8/17 2:46 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi all,

I'm writing the press release for the 11.0 release and the errata
page. Please feel free to review and edit them:

Press release:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79>

Errata page:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0>


    Best,


Nicolas


2017-08-02 12:40 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:

Thanks Nicolas, I'm happy to review when you are done.


On 2/8/17 6:22 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi,

I can work on the press release this evening.

Best,

Nicolas

Le 2 août 2017 09:35, "Angelos Tzotsos"
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Hi all,

Since there was a week of testing without a blocker
issue being reported, on the weekly meeting we decided
to rename rc1 as final.

Here are the pending tasks for the 11.0 release:
1. Rename the release files (done)
2. Create the VM version (done)
3. Upload the release files on Sourceforge (Angelos - in
progress)
4. Update the web site to 11.0
5. Send out a press release

We need volunteers to pick up items 4 and 5.

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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 11.0 status: distribution

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Nicolas,

I've reviewed the press release and made a few minor changes. A couple 
of formatting/syntax issues, I don't think we need to call out the 
specific projects we have dropped, and I've copied a few words "about 
this release" from the presentation.


I notice that the list of applications was incomplete, and I don't think 
listing the applications adds much value, so I've dropped that.



On 3/8/17 2:46 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi all,

I'm writing the press release for the 11.0 release and the errata 
page. Please feel free to review and edit them:


Press release:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79 
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_79>


Errata page:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0 
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc/Errata/11.0>



Best,


Nicolas


2017-08-02 12:40 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:


Thanks Nicolas, I'm happy to review when you are done.


On 2/8/17 6:22 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi,

I can work on the press release this evening.

Best,

Nicolas

Le 2 août 2017 09:35, "Angelos Tzotsos" <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com
<mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Hi all,

Since there was a week of testing without a blocker issue
being reported, on the weekly meeting we decided to rename
rc1 as final.

Here are the pending tasks for the 11.0 release:
1. Rename the release files (done)
2. Create the VM version (done)
3. Upload the release files on Sourceforge (Angelos - in
progress)
4. Update the web site to 11.0
5. Send out a press release

We need volunteers to pick up items 4 and 5.

Best,
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[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Nicolas, I'm happy to review when you are done.


On 2/8/17 6:22 pm, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi,

I can work on the press release this evening.

Best,

Nicolas

Le 2 août 2017 09:35, "Angelos Tzotsos" <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> a écrit :


Hi all,

Since there was a week of testing without a blocker issue being
reported, on the weekly meeting we decided to rename rc1 as final.

Here are the pending tasks for the 11.0 release:
1. Rename the release files (done)
2. Create the VM version (done)
3. Upload the release files on Sourceforge (Angelos - in progress)
4. Update the web site to 11.0
5. Send out a press release

We need volunteers to pick up items 4 and 5.

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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] code sprint, content migration, generation starts now

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Luca,

Flier is looking good. Thanks for putting it together.

Re OSGeo-Live logo: discussion so far has been that we have agreed to 
replace the old OSGeo logo with new OSGeo logo, but not to update the 
OSGeo-Live logo to proposed new OSGeo-Live logo. Reasons floated was 
that we think we could do better, but we haven't had time to dedicate to 
creating something better.



On 25/7/17 6:07 pm, Luca Delucchi wrote:

Hi all,

On 24 July 2017 at 23:26, Luca Delucchi <lucadel...@gmail.com> wrote:


I can do the information sheets for osgeo live, I already did one for GRASS


I committed first version of the osgeo live flyer [0].

If you like the idea I will continue to fill the missing software logos.

Other topics to discuss:
- OSGeo Live logo: I think should be better to change our logo to the
one proposed by the marketing/rebranding company [1]. It has all the
feature of the old one but following the new OSGeo "guidelines", maybe
a possible improvement could be to have OSGeo with a green and Live
with the other, like I did for the text GRASS GIS here [2]
- url: should be with https or without?


[0] 
https://github.com/lucadelu/osgeo/blob/osgeolive/marketing/print/osgeolive_a4.svg
[1] 
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/images/logos/OSGeo_live.png
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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] code sprint, content migration, generation starts now

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Jody,

I think it might be helpful to discuss this in real time online. The 
osgeo-live weekly meeting will be in ~ 10 hours if you want to drop by:


irc://freenode.net#osgeolive

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20=30=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215

If I understand correctly, there is currently budget and intent to 
create project write ups, without a strategy for long term maintenance. 
If that is the case, I suggest not creating such material at all. Rather 
just create a list of projects which references either the projects 
directly, or OSGeo-Live project overviews. I'm ok with Project Overviews 
being copied verbatim, but I'm not ok with creating slight variant on 
the Project Overviews.


For projects (such as some community projects, which haven't created a 
project overview for OSGeo-Live,) I suggest using the OSGeo-Live format 
initially. Then on a future iteration of OSGeo-Live, adopt a new 
template (as proposed by the marketing committee).




On 24/7/17 9:40 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Cameron this is just a stop gap as we do not have login to the beta 
website. In addition to these forms the existing osgeo live overview 
are also a source of information (perhaps these forms could add a link 
to osgeo live overview if available.)


The key new information appears to be screen snaps and team photo and 
the level 1 level 2 category information (which would be interesting 
for osgeo live to adopt) and what service providers are considered 
contributors.


The osgeo live team has been working very hard on the latest release 
and has not had capacity to work on this initiative, by the same token 
the content being gathered was established in June (the scope of this 
project is fixed and we do not have volunteers to establish consider 
process - unless you are interested).


The best idea I have heard is about.yaml or similar being committee 
into each repo and used to generate one page flyers, overviews and 
these web pages. However given the deadlines (some of which have 
passed) this idea has not been pursued.


On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:31 AM Cameron Shorter 
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All,

There is good content in these forms. I recognise a lot of as
being derived from prior initiatives. Great.

I suggest taking a step back, and asking:

What is OSGeo's content creation and distribution pipeline?

What product(s) are being created with this content?

How are we going to ensure the content is being kept up to date?
(The original 1 page PDF fliers created for OSGeo projects was
created once, then became very out of date and collectively become
unusable as a source of truth). OSGeo-Live has a process for
updating documentation with each release, how can we lever that?

How can we minimise the duplication of content creation?
Duplication leads to multiple points of truth getting out of date,
and increases maintenance. Can we extend OSGeo-Live content
creation process rather than creating another? Or alternatively
have OSGeo-Live extend a newly created process?

Documentation processes which have potential to be aligned are:

* OSGeo-Live documentation guide:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation

* Project application to join OSGeo-Live:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive

* OSGeo incubation checklist:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html


Cheers, Cameron


On 22/7/17 10:44 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:


1) Jeffrey has started some google forms to quicklcy stage
content for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and
ask the people here to play test (and we can share with
disc...@osgeo.org <mailto:disc...@osgeo.org> at the end of
the day).


The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to
provide a sharable URL:
​
Software Projects

<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zOVOTtbGzIuhcfwHg9GYrJ-NErxl_DmFnTlBM3qBndE/edit?usp=drive_web>
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All,

There is good content in these forms. I recognise a lot of as being 
derived from prior initiatives. Great.


I suggest taking a step back, and asking:

What is OSGeo's content creation and distribution pipeline?

What product(s) are being created with this content?

How are we going to ensure the content is being kept up to date? (The 
original 1 page PDF fliers created for OSGeo projects was created once, 
then became very out of date and collectively become unusable as a 
source of truth). OSGeo-Live has a process for updating documentation 
with each release, how can we lever that?


How can we minimise the duplication of content creation? Duplication 
leads to multiple points of truth getting out of date, and increases 
maintenance. Can we extend OSGeo-Live content creation process rather 
than creating another? Or alternatively have OSGeo-Live extend a newly 
created process?


Documentation processes which have potential to be aligned are:

* OSGeo-Live documentation guide: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Documentation


* Project application to join OSGeo-Live: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive


* OSGeo incubation checklist: 
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html



Cheers, Cameron


On 22/7/17 10:44 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:


1) Jeffrey has started some google forms to quicklcy stage content
for beta website. I will review, add descriptions and ask the
people here to play test (and we can share with disc...@osgeo.org
<mailto:disc...@osgeo.org> at the end of the day).


The first form is now ready, but I am not quite sure how to provide a 
sharable URL:

​
Software Projects 
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zOVOTtbGzIuhcfwHg9GYrJ-NErxl_DmFnTlBM3qBndE/edit?usp=drive_web>

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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Revert to previous OSGeo-Live logo for 11.0 release, keep new OSGeo logo in docs

[Cameron Shorter]

Summarising further conversation with Vicky. The changing of 
OSGeo-Project logo (to show graduated projects) from old design to new 
and introducing the OSGeo-Community logo is a separate conversation. (I 
think it is a good idea, and non-controversial).


On 11/7/17 9:02 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Now it looks as a complete other proposal.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


+1 cameron

To clarify the proposal:

1. We will replace 1:1 all uses of the OSGeo logo, new replaced
for old

2. We will not replace the OSGeo-Live (derivative) logo yet. We
think we can do better and don't want to rush the design process.


On 11/7/17 8:54 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:

1 to keep the previous OSGeo-Live logo + use the new OSGeo logo
in our desktop backdrop image

+1 to use the new OSGeo logo for the project quickstarts and
overviews (its done already, so no rolling back)

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Angelos Tzotsos
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

We have been discussing the new logo situation for a few
weeks now and it seems there are issues with all suggested
new OSGeo-Live logos.
I feel that we should not hurry to prepare a new OSGeo-Live
logo for the upcoming 11.0 release, while at the same time I
would like to keep the work done by Jody including the new
OSGeo logo in our docs.

So I would like to propose to keep the previous OSGeo-Live
logo for our web site banner, and use the new OSGeo logo for
the project quickstarts and overviews. Also I propose to use
the new OSGeo logo in our desktop backdrop image to support
the OSGeo re-branding project.

There is a pull request for this motion:
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/277
<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/277>

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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire PyWPS from OSGeo-Live 11.0

[Cameron Shorter]

+1 cameron


On 11/7/17 8:36 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had a veto vote (-1) on 
removing PyWPS from the disk.
PyWPS quickstart has not been working for some time now [2] and we did 
not hear back from the maintainers so far.
I would like to make an override motion (majority vote) for removing 
PyWPS from 11.0 release.


Here is my +1,
Angelos

[1] http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-06-26.log
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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire MB-System from OSGeo-Live 11.0

[Cameron Shorter]

+1 cameron


On 11/7/17 8:31 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:


Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had a veto vote (-1) on 
removing MB-System from the disk.
Given the fact that there has been no activity from the new 
maintainer/volunteer with a revised MB-System quickstart, I would like 
to make an override motion (majority vote) for removing MB-System from 
11.0 release.


Here is my +1,
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Re: [Live-demo] [live-demo] MOTION: Retire GMT from OSGeo-Live 11.0

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+1 cameron


On 11/7/17 8:26 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi all,

Based on a previous IRC meeting logs [1], we had two veto votes (-1) 
on removing GMT from the disk.
Given the fact that there has been no pull request with a revised GMT 
quickstart, I would like to make an override motion (majority vote) 
for removing GMT from 11.0 release.


Here is my +1,
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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo live - new candidate: Halestudio

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Thorsten,

Great to hear your interest to get involved in OSGeo-Live. Re questions:

1. You have missed the deadline to be included on OSGeo-Live 11.0. The 
following release will be scheduled for next year.


2. Yes, we strongly prefer a .deb file for installation. What is 
involved in adding a project to OSGeo-Live is described here: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive


Cheers, Cameron


On 7/7/17 11:32 pm, Thorsten Reitz wrote:


Hi all,

in two weeks, many of us will be in Marne la Vallee and we could meet 
briefly to pick up the discussion on including hale studio in 
OSGeolive again.


A couple of questions:

  * What is the deadline to include halestudio in stealth mode in the
next release?
  * As far as I understood, we need to provide an installation script
or an installer package - I seem to remember you wanted to have a
*.deb?
  * The actual software package with JRE (e.g. as DMG) is about 170MB
big. We can't really remove a lot from that - the included sample
data is only about 1MB.

All the best,

Thorsten

Am 16.05.2017 um 16:25 schrieb Dirk Frigne:

Hi Cameron,

Stealth mode in the first release should be great!
Halestudio is used in several EU INSPIRE projects, and we plan to setup
a talk and a topic talk about OSGeo live on FOSS4G Paris.
There will be a specific topic talk for the INSPIRE community.

If we could disclose there the "stealth mode' we could motivate the
community to give feedabck.

The other point I want to address is to reach out to the dataproviders,
to become involved with the OSGeolive project.

As we descussed last month, we should try to find more volunteers to
support the project and become involved in some testing. By addressing
the product owners *and* the dataproviders, able to showcase their data
with OSGeo tools, I hope to strengthen the community.


All the best,
Dirk

On 2017-05-16 14:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi Dirk,

Looking through your responses, Halestudio looks to be a very strong
candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.

Whether we have time to get it included in time for OSGeo-Live 11.0 is
questionable.

For prior projects we have often taken two releases to onboard the
project to OSGeo-Live. Firstly we include the project in stealth mode.
(It is installed, but the docs are not linked into the main docs, so new
users don't accidentally use it. This gives us more time to do QA.

I'll be interested to hear thoughts from other OSGeo-Live folks. I'd
especially like to hear from anyone who has experience with Halestudio
to hear their thoughts.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 15/5/17 10:44 pm, Dirk Frigne wrote:

Hello,

Hereby we would like to ask if hale studio is appropriate to be included
on the next OSGeoLive release.
Below you can find the answers to the application questions as described
on the wiki page.

Kind regards,


Please describe your application:

  What is its name? hale studio
  What is the home page URL?
https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/
  Which OSI-approved Open Source License is used? GNU Lesser General
Public Licence (LGPL) v3.0
  What does the application do and how does it add value to the
Geospatial stack of software? hale studio enables you to transform and
harmonise spatial data, with a focus on highly complex data sets. Set up
reporting, analysis and data publishing workflows easily by defining
schema mappings. Furthermore, hale studio documents the data
transformation process and its impact on data quality.
  Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions of
the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments about how
standards are used.
  Read and write GML (2.1.2 to 3.3)
  WFS client (1.1, 2.0, 2.0.2), including support for WFS
Transactions
  WMS client (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.3.0)
  Simple Features SQL
  JSON (RFC 7159, ECMA-404)
  GeoJSON (IETF RFC 7946)
  What language is it written in? Java, Groovy
  Which version of the application should be included in the next
OSGeo-Live release? 3.3.0

Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user finds a
bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of all other
OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention to the following
answers):

  If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application into
production, it would imply that these organisations have verified the
stability of your software. Has the application been rolled out to
production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations? Please
mention some of these organisations
  State of Hamburg (Germany)
  State of Bavaria (Germany)
  State of Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
  Institute of Forest Management of Baden-Württemberg (Germany)
  Armed Forces (Germany)
  SMWA Sachsen (Germany)
  GDI Südhessen (96 districts and municipalities in Germany)
  P

Re: [Live-demo] osgeo live branding and feedback

[Cameron Shorter]

Stephen,

Each project (or community) will likely want to have a distinct logo. It 
is useful in block diagrams inside presentations. Or as a logo in an 
info-graphic, such as the metrics page at:


https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html

As such, OSGeo-Live should have a distinct logo which is different to 
OSGeo. Currently we do this by putting a blue heart on the OSGeo logo.



On 8/7/17 8:15 am, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
Well, I don't know what exactly the OSGeo standard is for branding, 
but ignoring that, I would move the heart to be the dot above the "i" 
in Live, because putting it on the OSGeo Logo dilutes the logo.


This presumes that the standard is some like [OSGeo Logo] [project logo]

-Steve

On 7/7/2017 5:49 PM, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Something like this perhaps?
https://github.com/cvvergara/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/idea1/images/banner1.png


On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Stephen Woodbridge 
<wood...@swoodbridge.com <mailto:wood...@swoodbridge.com>> wrote:


Strictly from a branding point of view, we should not dilute the 
brand.


OSGeo needs to set the branding standards, and then all project
should follow that standard. If the standard is a compass, then
OSGeo Live should not change the center to be a heart, UNLESS the
standard says the all projects should adopt a unique center piece in
the middle of the compass for the respective projects. Otherwise
this dilutes the brand.

-Steve

    On 7/7/2017 3:23 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Re new OSGeo-Live Logo:
* I feel strongly that the OSGeo-Live logo should be derived
from the OSGeo logo, but not be the same as the OSGeo logo.
* I feel it is important to say we are proud of our OSGeo roots
and associations, but also acknowledge and celebrate our added
uniqueness. We are a family within a larger community.
* I suspect you will find all OSGeo sub-projects feel similarly,
and hence will want sub-brands.
* Hence I think [1] (proposal logo with heart) is better than 
[2].

* However, I think we can do better than [1]. With our shot
timelines I would reluctantly accept [1] for next release, with
intent to revisit later.

I'd be interested to see if Brian Hamlin puts something
together. He has an artistic flair and I've really liked 
artwork he has created for prior OSGeo-Live releases.


Re OSGeo Incubation:
* I've answered on the incubation list, but in short, I suggest
we revisit the question after OSGeo-Live 11.0 release.



On 7/7/17 1:54 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

Okay reporting back with ... a conversation. The graphics
designer is now off on holiday (actually honeymoon) but we
got a lot done in the last two weeks since I have spoken
with you. The priority was obviously the website and stuff
for printing.

For my last updated I tried to adapt the new branding
elements and keep the heart shape:

[1]
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B022m344wU7hV0dUaU1ZdkFoM28 
<https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B022m344wU7hV0dUaU1ZdkFoM28>

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<https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B022m344wU7hV0dUaU1ZdkFoM28>>

I did however manage to force the issue of subbrands; but
doing up printing materials including the geoforall and
osgeo-live logo. You can check the meeting notes for the
result 

   o Review of OSGeo Live branding history
  +

 Discussion on relationship between projects and
osgeo

  +

 We have an answer about “Live” - it is a live
 demonstration of software, rather than a static
demo.

  +

 We have a strong relationship and we could ask
OSGeo Live
 to use the OSGeo logo unaltered, however that
does not
 answer the general problem (of how to work with
sub brands)


You may remember me asking what 'live" was meaning for osgeo
live, judging from early art assets in github (the svn
banner had hidden early prototypes of the logo). The
thinking was "pulse" with hearts and heart rate monitors
tracking which projects were actually alive. The other
meaning I could come up with was a live demo, rather than a
static demo.

Both Marc (strong marketing background) and the graphics
designer (really proud of the new logo and visuals). They
wanted to ask if OSGeo Live would be willing to use the
follo

Re: [Live-demo] point of contact OSGeo Live / OpenStreetMap / LearnOSM

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Benoit

Thank you for offering to help with OSGeo-Live. Welcome to the 
OSGeo-Live family. I've added your name to our public list of 
projects[1], and email address to our private list (so our coordinators 
can reach out to you).


I notice that we don't have ideditor included on our metrics page [2]. 
Would you be interested in adding it?


[1] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150


[2] http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html 
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/master/en/metrics.rst



On 6/7/17 4:50 pm, Benoit Fournier wrote:

Hi Cameron,

I volunteer to be a point of contact, let us hope I will prove
available year after year :)

Others potential helpers could eventually be reached:

learnosm-coordination <learnosm-co...@openstreetmap.org>
Communication WG <communicat...@osmfoundation.org>

Thanks to you and the whole team for OSGeo Live and reaching out.

Kind regards,

Benoît


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Re: [Live-demo] FOSS4G Boston 2017 Assist (bootable USB)

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Guido,

As of last release, you can still squeeze OSGeo-Live onto a 4 Gig USB, 
but you will be safer with 8 Gig of more which will allow other data to 
be included. You should include a download of VirtualBox as some people 
won't be able to boot from the USB and will need to run from within a 
virtual machine.


Cheers, Cameron


On 6/7/17 12:05 pm, Brian M Hamlin wrote:

Hi Guido -

  my best judgement at this time says -- do not call it 'bootable'

A USB thumb drive with branding is a fine thing, useful and (quietly) 
reusable too. I think we can make use of as much storage as the budget 
can get.. 16GB, 32GB or more.
  however, all things considered, we should no advertise it as a boot 
medium

  best regards from Berkeley, California

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On Wed, 05 Jul 2017 20:24:43 , Guido Stein <gst...@appgeo.com> wrote:

Thank you for the information.
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:28 PM - - <tech_...@wildintellect.com> wrote:

Hi Guido,

A vendor I have worked with in the past is Mixonic 
(http://mixonic.com). Their operations manager is Hunter 
hdreid...@mixonic.com


Last time I talked with them about cloning bootable was back in 2013, 
to remind Hunter you can reference [Ticket#201302281188] Bootable 
Flash Drives?


He'll be able to let you know if they can still do them. It does 
require sending them a working master copy. Which either Brian and or 
I could possibly do.

Thanks,
Alex


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I am putting in orders for many different things for the conference 
right

now but am having a hard time finding a usb vendor with quick turnaround
who can create a bootable drive.
Do any of you have a recommendation for how to get this done? We are 
going
to make an order for about 1,000 of these so doing it manually may 
not be
an option, unless you have a really neat trick on how to do it 100 
drives

at a time.
Thanks for any help on this,

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[Live-demo] Massimo's project's on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Massimo,

We missed you in our weekly OSGeo-Live IRC meeting yesterday.

I'm wondering where things are up to with you re tasks you are hoping to 
complete for this upcoming release.


I've seen a pull request from you for OSSIM docs come through. Thanks.

Being realistic, what else do you think you will have time to tackle 
within the next 2 weeks? (I'm aware there were a few things you were 
hoping to get to).


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Re: [Live-demo] presentation.rst files

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks for noticing Activity Workshop.

Yes please go ahead and delete en/presentation.rst

And yes, the en/presentation/index.html needs updating to reflect the 
new list of projects.


We should update our overview/overview.rst and metrics.rst pages too.

I'd suggest that we should be locking in our final list or projects for 
OSGeo-Live 11.0. [1]



Angelos,

Is our status spreadsheet an accurate reflection of what will be 
included or retired?


I'll be on IRC in ~ 10 hours, at our usual meeting timeslot to discuss 
this if others are around.


Cheers, Cameron

[1] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150


On 24/6/17 7:30 pm, Activity Workshop wrote:

Just a quick question: can the en/presentation.rst file (and all the
translations) be deleted now?
It doesn't seem to make much sense to refer to a 2010 blogpost talking about
"lightening" (ouch) any more.

Also the en/presentation/index.html will need to be updated, presumably deleting
the "New in 9.5?" section and removing the applications which will no longer be
part of 11.0.  Although I don't know if the list of included applications has
been finalised yet.
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Re: [Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Hello Julien,

For opinions on translation, I defer mostly to people with more 
experience that me. (I'm afraid I only speak English).


Cheers, Cameron.


On 21/6/17 8:00 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Hello Julien.

+1 to wait for transifex translations for new documents or completely 
rewritten documents.


and focus the efforts of the translators on the files with "not so 
many changes".
So that, when moving to transifex the already translated strings, we 
know are "almost" valid strings.



Vicky



On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 4:38 PM, Julien Moquet 
<moquet.jul...@gmail.com <mailto:moquet.jul...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Cameron,

Yes, and I made a tweet out of it !
Thank you for your help too.

About the translations, as transifex will arrive soon (thanks to
Vicky !), it should be a good idea to wait a bit more, and let
them use and practice transifex rather than text on github. Vicky
tell me how to add the french translation by myself before.
What do you think of ?

Regards,
Julien.

2017-06-20 22:45 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:

Hi Julien,

In case you missed it, I've reviewed your Proj4 Project
Overview, pull request is here:

https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216
<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216>

Thanks for your work.


On 17/6/17 7:19 am, Julien Moquet wrote:

Hi Cameron,


>> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is
in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.

Thank you for telling me. I am sure she'd be back soon.


>> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
this weekend, from a readability point of view.

I'm done with proj4 on my side : doc & iso 10.5 are good for me.
I am about to pull request it.

It would have been done whatever the release it is for. It
wasn't so much work to do.

    Regards,
    Julien.

2017-06-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:

Hi Julien,

Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who
is in hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.

I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates
this weekend, from a readability point of view.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:

Hi Vicky,

I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.

I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very
few change : are you agree to be proj4's quickstart's
reviewer ?

Regards,
Julien.

2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet
<moquet.jul...@gmail.com <mailto:moquet.jul...@gmail.com>>:

Hi Vicky,

I am not in the incubating list as a human being,
but metacrs is :
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator


I'll have a look on pgRouting.

Regards,
Julien.


2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
<vi...@georepublic.de <mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>>:

Hello Julien,

Now about the documentation
I see you've worked on your fork, these are the
differences:
is that correct?

https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master

<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master>

I dont think you are incubating project (I dont
see it in the list of incubating projects), so
this might not apply.

.. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
   :scale: 100 %
   :alt: OSGeo Project
   :align: right
   
:target:http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
<http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html>

​
​But I see you advanced a lot on the
documentation ​
​You might as well do the PR so that the other
members of the team can give you feed back.​
​Vicky.​
​​
PS, in pgRouting   the documentation is done in
such a way, to make minimal changes in further
releases of OSGeo Live.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 

Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - Issues with quickstart

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Milan, Massimiliano,

Angelos has noticed issues with the istsos quickstart on osgeolive. 
Would you mind having a look?


I've looped Angelos in so he can explain.

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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

[Cameron Shorter]

Jody,

Prior to the marketing committee reboot, the challenges the marketing 
committee (and OSGeo-Live committee) faced was finding volunteer(s) to 
administer requests for budget. While there are plenty of people quite 
passionate about asking for money, we found there are few volunteers 
prepared to arbitrate how money is spent and then administer the money.


Cheers, Cameron


On 21/6/17 3:39 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Shifting this part of the thread to live-demo mailing list. Personally 
I like the idea of OSGeo Live getting a budget, and having one less 
thing for the FOSS4G LOC to do each year.


There is nothing stopping this committee from requesting a budget at 
any point. The 2017 budget is only a guide, work with your committee 
chair and the board if there is a budget request.


The volunteers on this project are what is important, if a budget can 
help, let the board do what little we can to support.


Importantly just having a budget is not sufficient, a volunteer would 
be needed to handle "printing" requests and organize distribution. I 
guess it does not matter if that volunteer operates as part of the 
marketing committee or osgeo live project (there are advantages to both).

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On 20 June 2017 at 08:30, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:


This is a re-occuring discussion for every FOSS4G LOC :)
The OSGeo-Live project does not have a budget.

Cheers,
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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

[Cameron Shorter]

r attack.. The
user may have to
choose at the BOOT BIOS level
to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to
me that all the
details on boot are being made public. Low-cost
windows laptops and also very expensive server
motherboards
seem to both be behaving this way.
  The Live has implemented a proces that should allow
the UEFI-Boot
with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard
to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from
this also..


On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 , Guido Stein
<gst...@appgeo.com <mailto:gst...@appgeo.com>> wrote:

I believe that there is budget for the sticks in
Boston, but I think
that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
That all said, if you could price this out, I will
figure out how to help.
-Guido

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com
<mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If we did a large "printing run" in north america for
foss4g and foss4g
europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.
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On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some
valuable advice on
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this
process a few
times.
Brian might even be able to recommend a company to
create the USBs for you.
Cheers, Cameron

On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr <mailto:gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com
<mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the
year; and we are
going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
Is there a chance the conference registration fee can
cover USB stick
purchase?

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On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald
<gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr
<mailto:gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr>> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.
I have contacted a french company that provide usb
stick printing. Their proposal is like this: for 300
USB sticks it will cost almost
2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I
can remember,
during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth
that was providing
the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best
option. Indeed, in
case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with
OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
means that we may be able to manage the usb print on
our own budget as
it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease
and the file to
put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is
no double
partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower
than 8go usb
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can
have a booth at the
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB
stick.
Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr <mailto:gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr>
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/

Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett
<jody.garn...@gmail.com
<mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs
invo

Re: [Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Julien,

In case you missed it, I've reviewed your Proj4 Project Overview, pull 
request is here:


https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/216

Thanks for your work.

On 17/6/17 7:19 am, Julien Moquet wrote:

Hi Cameron,


>> Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is in 
hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.


Thank you for telling me. I am sure she'd be back soon.


>> I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates this 
weekend, from a readability point of view.


I'm done with proj4 on my side : doc & iso 10.5 are good for me.
I am about to pull request it.

It would have been done whatever the release it is for. It wasn't so 
much work to do.


Regards,
Julien.

2017-06-16 22:22 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>>:


Hi Julien,

Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is in
hospital, so she will be short on spare time for a bit.

I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates this
weekend, from a readability point of view.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:

Hi Vicky,

I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.

I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very few
change : are you agree to be proj4's quickstart's reviewer ?

Regards,
Julien.

2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet <moquet.jul...@gmail.com
<mailto:moquet.jul...@gmail.com>>:

Hi Vicky,

I am not in the incubating list as a human being, but metacrs
is :
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator


I'll have a look on pgRouting.

Regards,
Julien.


2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vi...@georepublic.de
<mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>>:

Hello Julien,

Now about the documentation
I see you've worked on your fork, these are the differences:
is that correct?

https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master

<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master>

I dont think you are incubating project (I dont see it in
the list of incubating projects), so this might not apply.

.. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
   :scale: 100 %
   :alt: OSGeo Project
   :align: right
   :target:http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
<http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html>

​
​But I see you advanced a lot on the documentation ​
​You might as well do the PR so that the other members of
the team can give you feed back.​
​Vicky.​
​​
PS, in pgRouting   the documentation is done in such a
way, to make minimal changes in further releases of OSGeo
Live.
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Julien Moquet
<moquet.jul...@gmail.com
<mailto:moquet.jul...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Vicky,
My fork is up to date regarding the overview and
quickstart:
https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc
<https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc>
Before making a pull request, I need to test it over
the OsGeoLive-10.5 (on wednesday or thursday).
Although, as I read the sources.list include in this
version, I don't really think the latest proj4 will
be used.
The ubuntugis is used for that, and there is only the
stable 4.8.0-3 proj4 release to be used. See :

http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/

<http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/>

and

https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list

<https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list>

That's why I finally don't have to change the proj4
release on its overview.
I only bypass the metacrs and stuff.
Regards,
Julien.
2017-06-11 18:11 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
<vi...@georepublic.de <mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>>:

Hi Julien, et all
Maybe you can help me.
It so happened that I sent another mail asking
about what version to use, while reviewing today,
I saw that I didn't send the mail to proj4.
   

Re: [Live-demo] [Board] osgeo live feedback (to the board)

[Cameron Shorter]

Re-interating what I said on the OSGeo Live list with Jody:

Firstly, it is great to see OSGeo-Live being engaged at the OSGeo board 
level and an interest being taken in helping set our direction.


However, one thing that makes me nervous is any gradual increase in 
baseline tasks delegated to the OSGeo-Live core team, especially when we 
have just gone through a de-scoping exercise within OSGeo-Live to bring 
our level of effort back to our volunteer capacity.


If the OSGeo board is making decisions that effect projects such as 
OSGeo-Live:


1. The effected projects should be involved in the decision

2. The decision should consider how the impact of the decision will be 
resourced.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 20/6/17 4:02 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
I had a review of the upcoming live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org> 
release, and noticed a couple things to update.


1) The live.osgeo.porg sponsorship list 
<https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html> included both project 
sponsors -- and OSGeo sponsors. The result was quite out of date. As 
the board member keeping tabs on sponsors this was my responsibility 
.. but I did not know live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org> was 
keeping a list :)


2) More importantly the sponsors page has a section describing osgeo 
foundation <https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html> which had not 
been updated with our new mission / vision. Once again we updated 
these statements as a board, but did not chase it down into 
live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org>.


3) As incubation chair I asked if OSGeo live could update the branding 
for OSGeo Projects and OSGeo Community Projects. This setup is in 
keeping with the board  decision to open the door to "innovation" last 
year by providing an easier way for just-open-source projects to be 
supported by the foundation).


4) I asked if live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org> could include the 
new logo / color / font branding (it may be too late, but it does not 
hurt to ask).


5) I also asked as a LocationTech member if additional cloud based 
projects could be listed on osgeo live. They are an increasingly 
important part of our open source ecosystem, but not listed on 
live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org>.


I have joined the project mailing list to provide the above feedback 
more directly, however I want to emphasis that it is not enough for us 
to make decisions as a board - we need to reach out and communicate 
those decisions.


With respect to the board decisions on mission/vision/community 
projects are there any other areas we need to update?

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Re: [Live-demo] about osgeo and sponsors

[Cameron Shorter]

tions they make to the project adds to their total for osgeo
sponsorship).


In our case, how can we measure the value of the sponsorship, since we 
do not receive money from the sponsors?



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Re: [Live-demo] Project Sponsor logos in Project Overviews on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Looping OSGeo-Live back into the conversation with permission, (Jody 
isn't subscribed to osgeo-live list).


Jody, happy to discuss how branding/logos etc can be updated (probably 
for next release rather than this coming one).


However, it would be good to get the sponsors page up to date with this 
release. If you can help with guiding what you see needs doing, that 
would be appreciated.


Thanks Cameron


On 17/6/17 7:43 am, Jody Garnett wrote:


About OSGeo Incubating logo - I would like to change that to reflect 
the "OSGeo Community" branding established last year. I can open a bug 
ticket formally as incubation chair if you like. We also have new 
OSGeo branding in the works if there is a chance to include that in 
OSGeo Live.


The https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html page may need a sponsors 
refresh (no longer called OSGeo Supporting Sponsors for example).


With respect to LocationTech and other organizations, I hope the new 
website gives us a chance to write down formally how the organization 
interact - in addition to some of the joint activities undertaken to 
promote open source.


I should draw on your experience with osgeo live, - I would like to 
list OSM and naturalearthdata.com <http://naturalearthdata.com>, but i 
am not sure OSGeo (or OSGeo Live) has any formal relationship (or just 
a tradition of promoting these great resources). Do you have any details?


--
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On 16 June 2017 at 13:15, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com 
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Marc, Jody,

As you have probably noticed, we have "OSGeo Incubated" and "OSGeo
Incubating" logos in our Project Overviews. I see a place for
"LocationTech Incubated" logos as well. However before introducing
LocationTech concepts on OSGeo-Live, I think it important to work
out how to explain these concepts easily to new users
(OSGeo-Live's primary target audience).

I think the relationship between OSGeo and LocationTech is unclear
to many who are unsure whether the two are competitors or
complementary. So if we add the LocationTech concept into
OSGeoLive, I think we need to help new (and existing) users by
referencing a few paragraphs saying:

"OSGeo is this, LocationTech is that". Defining "this and that"
needs to be jointly agreed upon, and I suspect will involve a long
public email thread. Hopefully less heated than prior discussions
on this topic.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 15/6/17 7:44 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

Tagging in Marc with his LocationTech hat on.

Marc you have been interested in having LocationTech projects
list themselves on OSGeo live. I have asked Cameron if the
projects could  have the LocationTech logo as part of their
description.

Cameron I see a distinction between a company and a software
foundation here; I would like to recognize projects that are
bigger than a single company. I also note that QGIS has its own
foundation, so this may be a general pattern for the OSGeo Live
    project to consider.

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On 14 June 2017 at 14:04, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jody,

I'm open to considering changes future OSGeo-Live
documentation templates, (we don't have time for this 11.0
release). However, I'm very mindful that we need to make sure
that anything added to the template is something that would
be relevant to all projects. And something that we can
sustainably maintain. More importantly, how to you remove a
company that is not actively involved in a project any more
without causing a political storm?

As such, I don't think we should be adding company
contributors to Project Overviews.

Cheers, Cameron


On 14/6/17 11:39 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:

This has nothing to do with sponsors, it is showing a
project organization. Similar to marking osgeo projects.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:37 AM Angelos Tzotsos
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On 06/14/2017 02:31 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> On 14/6/17 2:53 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> 2)
https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/udig_overview.html
<https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/udig_overview.html>
>>
>> Can we add the LocationTech logo to this (and other)
LocationTech
>> projects?
>
> Hi Jody,
>
> OSGeo sponsors are listed on
https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html
<https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html>
&g

Re: [Live-demo] Review of gpsprune on OSGeo-Live 11.0

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Activity Workshop for all your help.

I agree with Sebastiaan that we should be updating to the latest stable 
version of gpsprune if we can.


One of the criteria we used to identifying projects to retire from 
OSGeo-Live was finding projects which are not changing version on 
OSGeo-Live. (This picked out gpsprune).


So hopefully between you and Sebastian you should be able to work out 
how to update to the latest version? (And then tweak the quickstart and 
project overview accordingly).


Warm regards, and thanks for your help,

Cameron


On 17/6/17 6:28 am, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:

On 06/16/2017 09:32 PM, Activity Workshop wrote:

On 12/06/17 21:00, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote:

Shouldn't gpsprune be upgraded to 18.6 and the overview & quickstart
updated to reflect the latest version?

Well yes, you're right, it would be ideal if we had v18.6.  But currently my
number 1 priority is to try to prevent GpsPrune being removed from OSGeo-Live,
and as I understand it the docs need to be reviewed this week.

The easiest way to ensure that GpsPrune gets installed (correct me if I'm wrong)
is to take the version from the Ubuntu repositories.  I expect that a simple
apt-get will be much easier to manage than trying to set up links to backports
or private ppas or whatever else might be involved to get 18.6.  So that is why
I recommended to take the one from the repositories, and I've only just learned
this week that this will be 18.3.

Rebuilding the latest gpsprune package from Debian for OSGeo-Live is
quite trivial, see for example the git-buildpackage workflow documented
in the Debian GIS policy:

  https://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/policy/packaging.html#git-backports

Or just rebuild the source package downloaded via tracker.debian.org
with pdebuild in a cowbuilder chroot with the OSGeo-Live nightly PPA
enabled.

Updating the package now requires the docs to be reviewed again for
18.6. If the package was updated first the docs needed to be updated
only once.

Kind Regards,

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Re: [Live-demo] Crunch time for Geomajas on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Dirk,

Thanks for your response. The Geomajas' community has traditionally been 
very responsive and helpful when we have reached out which we appreciate 
and goes in your favour.


If GeoMajas can update their quickstart to OSGeo-Live standards within 
the next week (preferably the next few days), my recommendation to the 
OSGeoLive PSC will be that we keep GeoMajas (at the current version) for 
this upcoming release, and re-assess based on activity for the next release.


Documentation guides are here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Documentation

Good luck.

Cameron


On 17/6/17 1:25 am, Dirk Frigne wrote:

Cameron,

On my resposibility:
My formal answer is *yes* to include geomajas in the next release of
OSGeo-Live.

I suggest to keep the same version number.
We will work on the quickstart session, this is something I can control
and I will take action for it.

There is a lot of stuff developed by customers, who want to donate to
the community, but I need to motivate and 'INSPIRE' some of the
developers and stakeholders. So I suggest an infusion for geomajas to
get it back to live and into a vibrant community. (with a more active
and renewed PSC resulting in new Openhub Metrics).

If there is no new release when we discuss the next release of
OSGeo-Live, I will be the first to promote retirement for geomajas.

thank you for your patience with a bit a sick patient, but should be
able to recover or resurrect in another way.

Dirk.

On 2017-06-13 23:02, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Dirk,

We are at crunch time. We haven't heard a define yes/no re including
GeoMajas on OSGeo-Live. As mentioned earlier, it is ear marked for
retirement unless we can see action on following points:

"Propose to retire. No recent version change on OSGeo-Live. No recent
activity in OpenHub metrics"

"Quickstart is too short and not following writing tips (in the udig
quickstart). It needs to show how to do 1 typical task. Look at
GeoServer quickstart for inspiration. Quite a bit of work required here."

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Re: [Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

)
Full package status can be seen here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150

<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
Key Milestones --- 18-Jun-2017All
docs reviewed and verified 21-Jun-2017OSGeo-Live
delivered to UAT (final application versions installed
- Beta stage) 24-Jul-2017OSGeo-Live Final ISO
14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston ... full schedule

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB

<http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB>

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cameron Shorter
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com
<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Julien,

Thanks for offering to help with translations. I'm
looping in Niko and Vicky who are currently
wrestling with trying to get transifex to work. If
you are familiar with it, you might be able to
help them.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:

Hi,
>> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has been
translated into other languages, including
proj4js, ..." > Agreed that metacrs is probably a
bit too ..
I am fully agree too.
And as OsGeoLive aims to be multilanguages, I can
help on the proj4 French Translation pages.
Regards,
2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even Rouault
<even.roua...@spatialys.com
    <mailto:even.roua...@spatialys.com>>:

On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38 CEST Cameron
Shorter wrote:

> Hi Evan,

>

> Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the
Proj4 projects together.

> However, it appears that proj4 is the only
project in that grouping

> which is active?

>

> Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should
be dropped from OSGeo-Live

> as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It
would be ok to say "Proj4

> has been translated into other languages,
including proj4js, ..."

>

> Your thoughts are welcome.

Regarding what is listed currently in metacrs :

- proj4js: no opinion

- cs-map: no-opinion

- geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily used underneath
by GDAL in particular, mostly in maintaince
mode, but can be treated as a technical
dependency that doesn't require to be visible
from users.

- proj4j: no opinion

- spatialreference.org
<http://spatialreference.org>: not maintained
in years. http://epsg.io/ would be a possible
replacement

Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ...
meta for folks exploring OSGeo-Live content,
so it could make sense exposing proj.4 as a
standalone project.

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Re: [Live-demo] Project Sponsor logos in Project Overviews on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Jody,

I'm open to considering changes future OSGeo-Live documentation 
templates, (we don't have time for this 11.0 release). However, I'm very 
mindful that we need to make sure that anything added to the template is 
something that would be relevant to all projects. And something that we 
can sustainably maintain. More importantly, how to you remove a company 
that is not actively involved in a project any more without causing a 
political storm?


As such, I don't think we should be adding company contributors to 
Project Overviews.


Cheers, Cameron

On 14/6/17 11:39 pm, Jody Garnett wrote:
This has nothing to do with sponsors, it is showing a project 
organization. Similar to marking osgeo projects.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 4:37 AM Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com 
<mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:


On 06/14/2017 02:31 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> On 14/6/17 2:53 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> 2) https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/udig_overview.html
>>
>> Can we add the LocationTech logo to this (and other) LocationTech
>> projects?
>
> Hi Jody,
>
> OSGeo sponsors are listed on https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html
>
> There is a spot of Project Overviews to link to a Support page (and
> the external support page can have sponsor logos).
>
> Adding sponsor logos directly in the Project Overview would
break our
> current template. If we were to update the template to include
sponsor
> logos, it would  require an audit of each project's sponsor list
with
> every release. This is a non trivial commitment which I don't
think we
> are resourced to keep up to date.
>
> Warm regards,
>
Which also reminds me that we need to update the sponsors page...

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Re: [Live-demo] Project Sponsor logos in Project Overviews on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

On 14/6/17 2:53 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

2) https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/udig_overview.html

Can we add the LocationTech logo to this (and other) LocationTech 
projects?


Hi Jody,

OSGeo sponsors are listed on https://live.osgeo.org/en/sponsors.html

There is a spot of Project Overviews to link to a Support page (and the 
external support page can have sponsor logos).


Adding sponsor logos directly in the Project Overview would break our 
current template. If we were to update the template to include sponsor 
logos, it would  require an audit of each project's sponsor list with 
every release. This is a non trivial commitment which I don't think we 
are resourced to keep up to date.


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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - please confirm that you have reviewed udig docs by 18 June 2017

[Cameron Shorter]

e.
Vicky
Hey... congrats its nice to see a "mayor" version change.


On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:28 AM, <astroi...@gmail.com
<mailto:astroi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Jody, Frank,

With the upcoming OSGeo-Live 11.0 reboot, we will be
re-inserting each project into the OSGeo-Live baseline
once someone from each
project has replied to confirm that they have reviewed
docs and verified the application works as expected.

Can you please:
0. Reply by return email to confirm that you have
recieved this email and that you are able to check
docs within the next 2 weeks. (sooner would be better
if you can)
1. Reply to confirm the Project Overview is still
accurate, or has been updated, (and version numbers
are correct): ,
2. Reply to confirm you have run a recent OSGeo-Live
version (the previous 10.5 version is ok), and updated
the quickstart where needed.

We understand that version 2.0 of  udig will be
installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0? (Version 1.4.0b was
installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.)

Our prior review of udig stated:


Our prior documentation reivew of udig  noted:


Full package status:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150

<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>

Key Milestones
---
18-Jun-2017All docs reviewed and verified
21-Jun-2017OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final
application versions installed - Beta stage)
24-Jul-2017OSGeo-Live Final ISO
14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston

... full schedule

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB

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[Live-demo] Crunch time for Geomajas on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Dirk,

We are at crunch time. We haven't heard a define yes/no re including 
GeoMajas on OSGeo-Live. As mentioned earlier, it is ear marked for 
retirement unless we can see action on following points:


"Propose to retire. No recent version change on OSGeo-Live. No recent 
activity in OpenHub metrics"


"Quickstart is too short and not following writing tips (in the udig 
quickstart). It needs to show how to do 1 typical task. Look at 
GeoServer quickstart for inspiration. Quite a bit of work required here."


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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - should kosmo continue to be included?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Sergio,

I take accept your explanation of the difficulty of merging Jump forks. 
It is a pity. Without me learning the details, I suspect that the 
decision to fork some time ago has resulted now in a spread of 
developers across multiple projects where possibly they could all be 
working on the same codebase now and be working more effectively.


Projects which attract developers then develop features faster, which 
attracts users, which attracts sponsors, which attracts developers, and 
this cycle leads to the project out competing similar projects.


I feel the role of OSGeo-Live is to help new users select the best 
project for the users needs, which includes picking the project most 
likely to grow and be successful long term.


Based on the fundamentals of watching crowd wisdom in action, and 
counting number of commits in Kosmo, I see a project which looks like it 
has a small active core team now, but which is being out-competed by 
similar desktop GIS applications which have much larger development 
teams and development activity.


I suspect that unless things change in a very fundamental way, it is 
just a matter of time before Kosmo will become irrelevant. I know these 
words will likely be painful to read. I personally started the 
Mapbuilder project, and with the help of some great people grew it to 
become the most feature rich Open Source Webmapping client for a few 
years, before it was out-competed by OpenLayers and we decided to retire 
it.


http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2008/07/end-of-life-for-community-mapbuilder-we_29.html

So while I'm open to being convinced that Kosmo should be included on 
OSGeo-Live 11.0, I suspect it is just a matter of time before it should 
be retired.


Coming back to specifics for Kosmo. Your community have been responsive, 
and your OpenHub metrics show activity from one to two developers. That 
is good. If you do put our a new release and update web pages as you 
have suggested (within the next week or so) we can put the question the 
OSGeo-Live PSC. My vote would be a +0 to include Kosmo for 11.0, but if 
there is no significant change to Kosmo development practices I'll 
likely vote -0 for a future OSGeo-Live 12.0 release.


Warm regards, Cameron

On 8/6/17 5:55 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Hi Cameron.

It's almost imposible to merge the projects again in one only: we have 
done so many changes to the JUMP core code that it differs a lot from 
the original one and can be merged back to other JUMP branches.


We share a base common, so some plugins and tools can be translated 
from one project to another (e.g.: some Kosmo CAD tools have been 
ported to OpenJUMP a few weeks ago, and some OpenJUMP plugins were 
translated and added to Kosmo Desktop a few years ago). But the 
changes done to the common core avoids any possibility to merge both 
in only one project.


Some examples of the changes:

  * Datasources: Kosmo Desktop uses an "on demmand" architecture, we
don't load the whole layer into memory as JUMP do.
  * Projections: Kosmo Desktop allows vectorial (and raster for the
new version) on the fly reprojection. This is not possible in
JUMP, as projections aren't taken into account.
  * Rendering engine: Kosmo Desktop uses a different rendering engine.
  * Extension mechanism: Similar between both projects, but we have
pushed some changes that are not valid for OpenJUMP.
  * Project files: Totally different approaches.
  * Simbology: Totally different approaches, Kosmo uses a simbology
very close to the SLD standard

Regards,

El 07/06/2017 a las 22:06, Cameron Shorter escribió:


Hi Sergio,

Further to Angelos' email.

As I understand it, Kosmo is one of a number of forks of the Jump 
codebase? Are there opportunities to combine the projects back 
together again, and then benefit from combined communities and 
combine marketing?


Maybe handle differences by using a plugin concept (which is the 
approach used by QGIS)?


Warm regards, Cameron


On 8/6/17 3:40 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Sergio,

Thank you for updating the metrics page and for your contribution of 
Kosmo to the OSGeo-Live.


I went through the links provided in the metrics page and I landed 
in Kosmo's home page.
I realized that we have been promoting Kosmo v3.1 through OSGeo-Live 
for some releases now, but actually this version was never released 
on your page. This is not a good open source practice, and reflects 
bad to both projects.


You mentioned a 3.2 release coming soon, I hope to see that version 
officially released so we can consider adding Kosmo back to OSGeo-Live.


Regards,
Angelos


On 06/06/2017 11:37 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
I'm looping the osgeo-live email list into this conversation, to 
open up the opportunity to comment.


Cameron


On 6/6/17 11:15 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Hi Cameron.

Here it's the OpenHub metrics for Kosmo Desktop (sorry for the 
delay, i had some problems to get them up to date

Re: [Live-demo] Problems with 10.5 and VirtualBox 5.1

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Stephen for sharing what you have been finding out about running 
in a virtual machine.


The places where we are collecting this information are:

https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/virtualization_quickstart.html 
(official location)


https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/osgeolive_install_quickstart.html 
(official location)


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Virtual_Machine

It would be awesome if you could collect what you are learning (and 
correct outdated material) in one of these locations such that it can 
become useful for those who follow in your footsteps.


Cheers, Cameron

On 9/6/17 11:42 am, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:

On 6/8/2017 3:11 PM, Micha Silver wrote:



On 06/08/2017 08:52 PM, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:

Hi all,

I just tried to install OSGeo Live 10.5 on Windows using VirtualBox 
5.1 and ran into a bunch of problems. I will allow for that fact 
that this is my first attempt to do this, but want to document the 
issues.


1. Follow the link to get VirtualBox and installed it on Windows 10 
64-bit machine.


2. tried to install vmdk following the instruction, I could not get 
this to work. Issues are:
* VirtualBox Dialogs are different on 5.1, but could basically 
follow the intent.
* when I tried to start the VM it launches and I get black screen 
with _ cursor and nothing more. Powered off VM, restarted it, same 
result. Could not find a work-a-round to this issue


3. Created a new VM using the 32-bit iso. For some reason, 
VirtualBox would not allow me to create 64-bit VM, so its a good 
thing you supplied a 32-bit iso also.

You'll find the answer to the 32bit-only problem here:
https://superuser.com/questions/866962/why-does-virtualbox-only-have-32-bit-option-no-64-bit-option-on-windows-7 



Here is how to get into your Windows 10 BOIS if anyone cares:
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/access-bios-windows-10

And here is a good explanation from VirtualBox
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=1=62339

After finding this and enabling VT-x I was able to create a 64-bit VM 
and use the vmdk with that without any problems. Click the Run button 
brings me right into OSGeo Live.



* Launching this VM, fails with No boot disk error.
* Launching this VM and quickly hiting F12 key, brings up boot 
options and selecting "c" to boot from CD-ROM, boots into Linux 
installation Menu
Are you trying from the ISO file, or a CD? Maybe you did not add the 
CDROM in the VM settings? Under Storage->ContollerIDE be sure that 
the machine's CDROM drive is selected: Use the "CD icon" to browse 
and select your CDROM drive. Then check the "Live CD/DVD" checkbox, 
and try to boot.


In this case I build the VM from the ISO not the CD-ROM.

* If you select "Try Linux without installing" from the menu, it 
brings up OSGeo Live, but no where are these steps documented and I 
tried menu options before discovering this.


4. Once in OSGeo Live, I could not access my shared folder. It took 
me some time to work around this but eventually this worked:


sudo umount /media/sf_SharedFolder
sudo chmod 777 /media/sf_SharedFolder
sudo mount -t vboxsf -o rw,nodev,uid=0,gid=120  SharedFolder 
/media/sf_SharedFolder


And doing sudo adduser user vboxsf
and logout and back in fixed the shared folder issue.

So making progress, thanks all. I'll be working with Brian and Vicky 
to provide feedback and do testing.


Thanks,
  -Steve

I noticed the rc.local adds vboxsf group to user, but it does not 
appear in the user account:


user@osgeolive:/media/sf_SharedFolder$ id
uid=999(user) gid=999(user) 
groups=999(user),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),33(www-data),46(plugdev),50(staff),100(users),121(tomcat8),125(lpadmin),126(sambashare)


I'll be using OSQeo Live at FOSS4G Boston to present the pgRouting 
Workshop.


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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Add Vicky Vergara as PSC member

[Cameron Shorter]

Great to have you on board Vicky.
I've added your name to:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management#PSC_Members

On 9/6/17 9:40 pm, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Welcome Vicky!

On 06/09/2017 05:10 AM, Vicky Vergara wrote:

Hello everyone:

I will be delighted to become part of the PSC acronym of what I think is
Propose, Suggest and Comment in the OSGeo-live project. You might have
another meaning to what PSC stands for, and I agree to that meaning also.

I consider my self a newbie in your project, with 45 days actively
participating, There is no doubt that I am a newbie.

I am an experimenting person, perfectionist, a test freak, and lazy. (Maybe
you have not noticed the lazy part, but, I spend days, days and more days
to figure out if there is a fastest/better way to do a particular task, so
that when the task is done, its in seconds, instead of hours).

This 45 days, have been a turmoil in my head, so many things new things,I
that I feel are needed, and no words to express what is going on in the
head.
Some have become tangible, some you’ve seen some you haven't:

- I've being learning, because, reaching out the projects, its an
opportunity to know a bit more of other OSGeo projects, some of them that I
didn't even know they existed, now I know they exist, maybe I still don't
know what they are for, or how to use them, with time I'll get to learn
more.
- ​doing what I understand is PSC: ​proposing, suggesting and commenting
​ on the project​
, and you have being listening which I appreciate very much.
​
- And some less philosophical things that affect the project (hopefully
in a positive way:
   - The worksheet about mail history. Specially for mails that are part
   of your release procedure
   - the experiment about sphinx & transifex that stopped being an
   experiment and is becoming a more tangible thing.
   - experimenting I've done locally in my computer like a database for
   handling the administration (2 experiments, one with librebase and other
   with postgresql + zend framwork)
   ​ and arghhh, This is going to take time, I need time to
   really analyse the detailed process flow that currently exists
to automate
   it in a database. So because you haven't seen this is like it does not
   exist ;)  I don't like to show something that does not looks
like its going
   to work (Remember, I am a test freak & perfectionist)

Looking forward to work with you in this new endeavour.

Vicky


PS: Cameron, I will still need reminders of the meetings. Remember that if
I am capable of forgetting my kids... well, a meeting, I am sure I will I
forget also.



On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Cameron Shorter<cameron.shor...@gmail.com>
wrote:


I've privately emailed the OSGeo-Live PSC with this motion, and received
the following responses.

Vicky, if you would like to continue helping with OSGeo-Live, and are
comfortable with our Expectations of PSC members [1], then we hope you will
accept our invitation to the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee:

[1]https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management

On 7/6/17 8:33 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi all,

Of late, Vicky has been a fireball of energy helping OSGeo-Live, from
setting up translations, to helping reach out to communities.

I propose we should invite her to become one of the OSGeo-Live PSC
members.

+1 Cameron

(If we get all +1 votes, I will share this email thread publicly,
otherwise I'll keep it private)

Cheers,



On 7/6/17 8:37 pm, Baka Niko wrote:

I agree with you, so there is my +1.

I hope she will be interested in joining us, she pretty well involved with
pgRouting already.


On 7/6/17 8:39 pm, Bas Couwenberg wrote:

On 2017-06-07 12:33, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Of late, Vicky has been a fireball of energy helping OSGeo-Live, from
setting up translations, to helping reach out to communities.

I propose we should invite her to become one of the OSGeo-Live PSC
members.


Agreed.

(If we get all +1 votes, I will share this email thread publicly,
otherwise I'll keep it private)


Communication in open source projects should be public by default. Your
tendency to keep threads private and then halfway during a thread add the
list into the loop is highly annoying. I delete such partial threads,
because the community was not involved from the start diminishing its
value.

Kind Regards,

Bas


On 7/6/17 8:42 pm, massimo di stefano wrote:

thanks Vicky for supporting the osgeolive project
Here is my +1
—Massimo.


On 7/6/17 9:22 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Big +1 for Vicky.

Thanks for all your activity for OSGeo-Live

Astrid


On 7/6/17 9:28 pm, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:

+1


On 8/6/17 12:12 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Big +1
Angelos


On 8/6/17 12:51 am, Alex Mandel wrote:

+1 Alex


I haven't heard back from Brian Hamlin, but note his comment on IRC with
Vicky:
15:14:20cvvergara:*newbe
15:14:29darkblue_b:I

[Live-demo] Rethinking the OSGeo-Live communication strategy

[Cameron Shorter]

Bas has made a valuable and pointed comment comment about OSGeo-Live's 
communication strategy (and my involvement in particular):


On 7/6/17 8:39 pm, Bas Couwenberg wrote:

On 2017-06-07 12:33, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Of late, Vicky has been a fireball of energy helping OSGeo-Live, from
setting up translations, to helping reach out to communities.

I propose we should invite her to become one of the OSGeo-Live PSC 
members.


Agreed.


(If we get all +1 votes, I will share this email thread publicly,
otherwise I'll keep it private)


Communication in open source projects should be public by default. 
Your tendency to keep threads private and then halfway during a thread 
add the list into the loop is highly annoying. I delete such partial 
threads, because the community was not involved from the start 
diminishing its value.


Kind Regards,

Bas 
Bas is right. His comments align directly with the Producing Open Source 
Software handbook [1]:
"As slow and cumbersome as public discussion can be, it's almost always 
preferable in the long run. Making important decisions in private is 
like spraying contributor repellent on your project."


The challenge I see with the OSGeo-Live project is that we generate a 
lot of email traffic, most of which is specific to only a few. As such, 
I think that many of the project-points-of-contacts for OSGeo-Live 
projects are not following the general OSGeo-Live email list.
To address this, we send out private emails to each project point of 
contact (which results in private conversations). There are also 
one-on-one conversations between people, usually on IRC, but sometimes 
or private media such as skype or email many of which we could bring 
back into the public.



To address this, I think we should rethink our communication strategy, 
with an aim of:

1. Being transparent
2. Keeping signal-to-noise ratio high for each category of people involved
3. Ensuring key people (like project-points-of-contact) read our emails 
when we need to reach out to them.


So what main groups of emails do we send?
A. General OSGeo-Live business (such as this email), with both technical 
and organisational content. Typically involves the core OSGeo-Live team. 
This is what our main discuss list is being used for.

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/

B. Announcements: Notices of key milestones, kick off of releases etc. 
We do have an email list for this, but we haven't been using it:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo-announce/

We create and then store announcements within our wiki:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases

These announcements are then published to our OSGeo-Live discuss list, 
and the general OSGeo Discuss List.

They are also published via twitter:
https://twitter.com/osgeolive?lang=en

And I blog about it, which gets picked up by https://planet.osgeo.org/

C. Emails to project Points of Contact. I've been using a crude, home 
grown mail merge type feature which I've put into a private Google 
spreadsheet. Over the last release, Astrid and Vicky have started using 
this too. With this mail merge, we have been sending emails like "Hi Joe 
and Jone, as project points of contact for XYZ project, I'm hoping you 
can tell us what version of XYZ we should include in the next OSGeo-Live 
release. Version 1.1 of XYZ was installed on the last release."
~ 50 of these emails get sent out at each milestone, so we probably 
don't want to CC a main public list (although we could CC a high 
bandwidth public list to ensure transparency).
About half of projects reply to a first email sent out this way. Other 
projects require a number of manual follow ups.


D. Auto emails from our Issue tracker are emailed to our discuss email 
list every time an issue is updated. This could potentially be moved to 
be sent to a high volume email list in order to increase the 
signal-to-noise of the discuss list.


E. Github sends out auto emails for merge/pull requests which I receive 
directly to my email address. This information is already public within 
the github system, so I suggest doesn't need to be additionally added to 
an email list.


F. I sometimes reach out to people one-on-one in the first instance 
related to OSGeo-Live. I do this because in my experience people are 
more likely to respond, and respond openly and frankly to an individual 
than to a group (especially if they don't know who is in the group). I 
think it is appropriate to do this occasionally, but noting Bas' 
comment, it may be happening more often than it should. I'd be 
interested to hear other opinions on this.


G. We don't currently have a separate list for PSC members. To date, I 
don't think we've needed it. We could potentially set up a private list 
to discuss sensitive points. For instance, should we discuss whether to 
invite someone join the PSC privately first (allowing people on the PSC 
to object and not hurt the person's feelings)?


So what sh

Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Add Vicky Vergara as PSC member

[Cameron Shorter]

I've privately emailed the OSGeo-Live PSC with this motion, and received 
the following responses.


Vicky, if you would like to continue helping with OSGeo-Live, and are 
comfortable with our Expectations of PSC members [1], then we hope you 
will accept our invitation to the OSGeo-Live Project Steering Committee:


[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Management


On 7/6/17 8:33 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi all,

Of late, Vicky has been a fireball of energy helping OSGeo-Live, from 
setting up translations, to helping reach out to communities.


I propose we should invite her to become one of the OSGeo-Live PSC 
members.


+1 Cameron

(If we get all +1 votes, I will share this email thread publicly, 
otherwise I'll keep it private)


Cheers,




On 7/6/17 8:37 pm, Baka Niko wrote:

I agree with you, so there is my +1.

I hope she will be interested in joining us, she pretty well involved 
with pgRouting already.


On 7/6/17 8:39 pm, Bas Couwenberg wrote:

On 2017-06-07 12:33, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Of late, Vicky has been a fireball of energy helping OSGeo-Live, from
setting up translations, to helping reach out to communities.

I propose we should invite her to become one of the OSGeo-Live PSC 
members.


Agreed.


(If we get all +1 votes, I will share this email thread publicly,
otherwise I'll keep it private)


Communication in open source projects should be public by default. 
Your tendency to keep threads private and then halfway during a thread 
add the list into the loop is highly annoying. I delete such partial 
threads, because the community was not involved from the start 
diminishing its value.


Kind Regards,

Bas 


On 7/6/17 8:42 pm, massimo di stefano wrote:

thanks Vicky for supporting the osgeolive project
Here is my +1
—Massimo.


On 7/6/17 9:22 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Big +1 for Vicky.

Thanks for all your activity for OSGeo-Live

Astrid 


On 7/6/17 9:28 pm, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:

+1


On 8/6/17 12:12 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Big +1
Angelos 


On 8/6/17 12:51 am, Alex Mandel wrote:

+1 Alex


I haven't heard back from Brian Hamlin, but note his comment on IRC with 
Vicky:

15:14:20cvvergara:*newbe
15:14:29darkblue_b:I will stay out - you have my support :-)

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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - should kosmo continue to be included?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Sergio,

Further to Angelos' email.

As I understand it, Kosmo is one of a number of forks of the Jump 
codebase? Are there opportunities to combine the projects back together 
again, and then benefit from combined communities and combine marketing?


Maybe handle differences by using a plugin concept (which is the 
approach used by QGIS)?


Warm regards, Cameron


On 8/6/17 3:40 am, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

Hi Sergio,

Thank you for updating the metrics page and for your contribution of 
Kosmo to the OSGeo-Live.


I went through the links provided in the metrics page and I landed in 
Kosmo's home page.
I realized that we have been promoting Kosmo v3.1 through OSGeo-Live 
for some releases now, but actually this version was never released on 
your page. This is not a good open source practice, and reflects bad 
to both projects.


You mentioned a 3.2 release coming soon, I hope to see that version 
officially released so we can consider adding Kosmo back to OSGeo-Live.


Regards,
Angelos


On 06/06/2017 11:37 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
I'm looping the osgeo-live email list into this conversation, to open 
up the opportunity to comment.


Cameron


On 6/6/17 11:15 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Hi Cameron.

Here it's the OpenHub metrics for Kosmo Desktop (sorry for the 
delay, i had some problems to get them up to date):


https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop

Feel free to check and let me know if it's worth to let Kosmo 
Desktop form part of the OSGeo-LiveDVD.


Regards,

El 31/05/2017 a las 21:49, Cameron Shorter escribió:


Thanks Sergio for looking into this.

We are open to being convinced that kosmo is still a project that 
should be on OSGeo-Live.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 31/5/17 6:29 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Good morning Cameron.

Those are bad news :(...


* There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of releases.
We haven't increased the Kosmo Desktop number version due to 
internal reasons. The next OsGeo-LiveDVD would include the new 3.2 
version.


* We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check community 
activity
I'm taking care of this, I'll warn you as soon as the openhub 
metrics are all completed so you can check the activity and could 
change the opinion about the project.


Regards,

El 27/05/2017 a las 21:50, Cameron Shorter escribió:


Hi Sergio,

We have identified Kosmo as a candidate for retiring from 
OSGeo-Live. The reasons for considering this are:


* There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of releases.

* We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check community 
activity


So the question we ask is "Should we recommend new users adopt 
Kosmo over equivalent Open Source GIS alternatives?"


A good way to demonstrate that is by demonstrating an active 
community.


I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this?

Feel free to CC the OSGeo-Live list with your response if you like.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 15/5/17 4:27 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Hi Astrid,

I'll check and prepare the latest one to be added to the new 
version of OSGeo-Live.


The Project Overview and Quickstart will be valid for the new 
one, but I'll check and add the newest functionalities (and some 
use cases) to both of them.


Regards,

El 09/05/2017 a las 21:09, astroi...@gmail.com escribió:

Hi Sergio,

we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to be 
released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in 
August.


We are interested to know which version of kosmo should be 
installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?


Version 3.1 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.

Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!

Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a different 
person as contact person, which will update your project.


We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from OSGeo-Live?

Do you think we should drop kosmo from OSGeo-Live?

As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live release 
we intend to focus on quality, and as such will be asking each 
project:

1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to 
date and in line with our documentation standards.


You can see results of our first pass review in our status 
spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0 
Doc Review".


[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75

[2] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150


Key Milestones
---
 15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed on 
OSGeo-Live

 22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
  5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application 
versions installed)
 19-Jun-2017  OSGe

Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - should kosmo continue to be included?

[Cameron Shorter]

I'm looping the osgeo-live email list into this conversation, to open up 
the opportunity to comment.


Cameron


On 6/6/17 11:15 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Hi Cameron.

Here it's the OpenHub metrics for Kosmo Desktop (sorry for the delay, 
i had some problems to get them up to date):


https://www.openhub.net/p/kosmo_desktop

Feel free to check and let me know if it's worth to let Kosmo Desktop 
form part of the OSGeo-LiveDVD.


Regards,

El 31/05/2017 a las 21:49, Cameron Shorter escribió:


Thanks Sergio for looking into this.

We are open to being convinced that kosmo is still a project that 
should be on OSGeo-Live.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 31/5/17 6:29 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Good morning Cameron.

Those are bad news :(...


* There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of releases.
We haven't increased the Kosmo Desktop number version due to 
internal reasons. The next OsGeo-LiveDVD would include the new 3.2 
version.


* We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check community 
activity
I'm taking care of this, I'll warn you as soon as the openhub 
metrics are all completed so you can check the activity and could 
change the opinion about the project.


Regards,

El 27/05/2017 a las 21:50, Cameron Shorter escribió:


Hi Sergio,

We have identified Kosmo as a candidate for retiring from 
OSGeo-Live. The reasons for considering this are:


* There is no version change of Kosmo for a number of releases.

* We don't have any OpenHub metrics for Kosmo to check community 
activity


So the question we ask is "Should we recommend new users adopt 
Kosmo over equivalent Open Source GIS alternatives?"


A good way to demonstrate that is by demonstrating an active community.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this?

Feel free to CC the OSGeo-Live list with your response if you like.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 15/5/17 4:27 pm, Sergio Baños Calvo wrote:

Hi Astrid,

I'll check and prepare the latest one to be added to the new 
version of OSGeo-Live.


The Project Overview and Quickstart will be valid for the new one, 
but I'll check and add the newest functionalities (and some use 
cases) to both of them.


Regards,

El 09/05/2017 a las 21:09, astroi...@gmail.com escribió:

Hi Sergio,

we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to be 
released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in August.


We are interested to know which version of kosmo should be 
installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?


Version 3.1 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.

Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!

Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a different 
person as contact person, which will update your project.


We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from OSGeo-Live?

Do you think we should drop kosmo from OSGeo-Live?

As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live release we 
intend to focus on quality, and as such will be asking each project:

1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to date 
and in line with our documentation standards.


You can see results of our first pass review in our status 
spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0 Doc 
Review".


[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75

[2] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150


Key Milestones
---
 15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed on 
OSGeo-Live

 22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
  5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application 
versions installed)
 19-Jun-2017  OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application 
versions installed - Beta stage)

 24-Jul-2017   OSGeo-Live Final ISO
 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston

... full schedule 
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB


We are waiting for your response concerning your project kosmo. 
Any questions, please ask via the OSGeo-Live mailing list 
(live-demo@lists.osgeo.org) or directly.


Warm regards,

Astrid
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Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876

E-mail: s...@saig.es



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Tlfno. fijo / Office phone: (+34) 954788876

E-ma

Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live 11.0 - which version of gvsig should be installed?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Mario,

Good to hear you are making progress. I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live 
list, (in particular Angelos) to help answer the next step questions.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 3/6/17 2:35 am, Mario Carrera wrote:



Hi Astrid,

we have created the .deb file. What do we have to do now? Previous 
times Jorge Sanz was who managed it.


Where do we have to upload the .deb file?

Thank you very much.
Best regards,
  Mario




El 09/05/17 a las 21:09, astroi...@gmail.com escribió:

Hi José, Mario, Álvaro, Mario,

we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to be 
released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in August.


We are interested to know which version of gvsig should be installed 
on OSGeo-Live 11.0?


Version 2.2 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.

Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!

Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a different 
person as contact person, which will update your project.


We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from OSGeo-Live?

Do you think we should drop gvsig from OSGeo-Live?

As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live release we 
intend to focus on quality, and as such will be asking each project:

1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to date 
and in line with our documentation standards.


You can see results of our first pass review in our status 
spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0 Doc 
Review".


[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75

[2] 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150


Key Milestones
---
 15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed on 
OSGeo-Live

 22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
  5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application versions 
installed)
 19-Jun-2017  OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application 
versions installed - Beta stage)

 24-Jul-2017   OSGeo-Live Final ISO
 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston

... full schedule 
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB


We are waiting for your response concerning your project gvsig. Any 
questions, please ask via the OSGeo-Live mailing list 
(live-demo@lists.osgeo.org) or directly.


Warm regards,

Astrid
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Re: [Live-demo] [Proj] Fwd: [OSGeo-Live] Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Even,

I agree with you assessment. So the question now is would you like to:

Write a project overview and quickstart from proj4?

How to write it is described here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Documentation

(The wiki text is a bit old, it references svn instead of git. Feel free 
to correct)


Do ask questions if you have any.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 1/6/17 5:45 am, Even Rouault wrote:


On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38 CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:

> Hi Evan,

>

> Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the Proj4 projects together.

> However, it appears that proj4 is the only project in that grouping

> which is active?

>

> Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should be dropped from OSGeo-Live

> as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It would be ok to say "Proj4

> has been translated into other languages, including proj4js, ..."

>

> Your thoughts are welcome.

Regarding what is listed currently in metacrs :

- proj4js: no opinion

- cs-map: no-opinion

- geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily used underneath by GDAL in particular, 
mostly in maintaince mode, but can be treated as a technical 
dependency that doesn't require to be visible from users.


- proj4j: no opinion

- spatialreference.org: not maintained in years. http://epsg.io/ would 
be a possible replacement


Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ... meta for folks exploring 
OSGeo-Live content, so it could make sense exposing proj.4 as a 
standalone project.


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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

[Cameron Shorter]

I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.

In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on 
creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few times.


Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for you.

Cheers, Cameron


On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:

Jody,
we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/


Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are going to 
have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.

Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick purchase?

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On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear Jody,
thanks a lot for your answer.

I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their 
proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost 2000 € when for 
400 the cost will go to 2600€.

Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember, during the 
FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing the OSGeoLiveDVD USB 
sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in case OSGeo is coming to the 
FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it means that we may be able to manage 
the usb print on our own budget as it may cost less (as the usb stick size will 
decrease and the file to put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is 
no double partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb 
stick won’t be a real use to anybody).

I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the 
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.

Gérald Fenoy
gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr
FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/


Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Gérald:

To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know you 
have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be printing and 
do you have a quote we can work from?

Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it cannot 
really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program (unless you 
make a partition I guess).

I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in attending the 
event - while they are a good tool they are only one of the tools available.
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr> wrote:
Dear marketing committee,
I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC to ask 
the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB stick production 
to give to every attendees.

The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with the 
event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops, mainly for those 
that ask attendees to come with their own computer but it may also be used in 
other workshops also.

I hope to hear back from you.

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Re: [Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Julien,

Thanks for offering to help with translations. I'm looping in Niko and 
Vicky who are currently wrestling with trying to get transifex to work. 
If you are familiar with it, you might be able to help them.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:

Hi,

>> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has been translated into other 
languages, including proj4js, ..."

> Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ..

I am fully agree too.




And as OsGeoLive aims to be multilanguages, I can help on the proj4 
French Translation pages.


Regards,


2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even Rouault <even.roua...@spatialys.com 
<mailto:even.roua...@spatialys.com>>:


On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38 CEST Cameron Shorter wrote:

> Hi Evan,

>

> Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the Proj4 projects together.

> However, it appears that proj4 is the only project in that grouping

> which is active?

>

> Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should be dropped from
OSGeo-Live

> as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It would be ok to say
"Proj4

> has been translated into other languages, including proj4js, ..."

>

> Your thoughts are welcome.

Regarding what is listed currently in metacrs :

- proj4js: no opinion

- cs-map: no-opinion

- geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily used underneath by GDAL in
particular, mostly in maintaince mode, but can be treated as a
technical dependency that doesn't require to be visible from users.

- proj4j: no opinion

- spatialreference.org <http://spatialreference.org>: not
maintained in years. http://epsg.io/ would be a possible replacement

Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ... meta for folks
exploring OSGeo-Live content, so it could make sense exposing
proj.4 as a standalone project.

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Re: [Live-demo] [Proj] Fwd: [OSGeo-Live] Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Evan,

Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the Proj4 projects together. 
However, it appears that proj4 is the only project in that grouping 
which is active?


Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should be dropped from OSGeo-Live 
as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It would be ok to say "Proj4 
has been translated into other languages, including proj4js, ..."


Your thoughts are welcome.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 31/5/17 7:33 am, Even Rouault wrote:


On mardi 30 mai 2017 23:21:39 CEST Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

> Hi Julien and dear PROJ.4 Community,

>

> Regarding the PROJ.4 documentation in OSGeo-Live, there is no 
overview or


> quickstart at the moment.

Looking a bit, I can see MetaCRS being mentionned in

https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html

and pointing to

https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/metacrs_overview.html

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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Live] Proj4 documentation

[Cameron Shorter]

Even,

I'd add that we are fine with just one point of contact per project, 
although 2 is always better.


Cheers, Cameron


On 30/5/17 7:50 am, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

Hi Even,


I'm coming to you on behalf of the OSGeo-Live project. We are 
currently making a great spring cleaning of the projects included in 
OSGeo-Live. [1]
We are not enough to maintain all of them and keep the docs up to date 
too, so we are downsizing.


Proj4 appeared on our radar since the software is good but the 
documentation neglected.


Proj4 is still active since you made a commit a few hours / day ago.

Can you reach to the Proj4 community to help us find 2 peoples who 
volunteer to maintain the docs with us ?


Can you relay this mail and ask volunteers to contact Astrid Emde [2] 
and Vicky Vergara [3], so we can update our contact list and reach to 
them ?


As we say : "Work commitment is low, kudos and karma very high :) "


Best regards,

Nicolas Roelandt
OSGeo-Live PSC member
OSGeo-fr member

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_77
[2] astrid_emde at osgeo dot org
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[Live-demo] Draft press release about OSGeoLive reboot

[Cameron Shorter]

I've drafted a press release about the proposed reboot, based on our 
conversations so far.


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_77

I've updated updated the "11.0 Comments" column in our status sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150

We can discuss this at our weekly meeting in a couple of days.


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[Live-demo] Continue review of OSGeo-Live projects to keep/drop

[Cameron Shorter]

At our weekly meeting a couple of days ago we managed to assess a bit 
over half of the projects to determine strategies on moving forward, and 
which projects should continue to be maintained by OSGeo-Live.

I propose we finish off this review tomorrow (usual time):

LocationLocal Time  Time Zone   UTC Offset
New York <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/new-york>(USA - New 
York) 	Thursday, 25 May 2017 at 4:30:00 pm 	EDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt> 	UTC-4 hours
Québec <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/canada/quebec>(Canada - 
Quebec) 	Thursday, 25 May 2017 at 4:30:00 pm 	EDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/edt> 	UTC-4 hours
San Francisco 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/san-francisco>(USA - 
California) 	Thursday, 25 May 2017 at 1:30:00 pm 	PDT 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/pdt> 	UTC-7 hours
Auckland 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/new-zealand/auckland>(New 
Zealand) 	Friday, 26 May 2017 at 8:30:00 am 	NZST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/nzst> 	UTC+12 hours
Sydney 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/sydney>(Australia - 
New South Wales) 	Friday, 26 May 2017 at 6:30:00 am 	AEST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/aest> 	UTC+10 hours
Perth <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/perth>(Australia 
- Western Australia) 	Friday, 26 May 2017 at 4:30:00 am 	AWST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/awst> 	UTC+8 hours
Rome <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/italy/rome>(Italy) 
Thursday, 25 May 2017 at 10:30:00 pm 	CEST 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cest> 	UTC+2 hours
Corresponding UTC (GMT) 	Thursday, 25 May 2017 at 20:30:00 
<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170525T2030> 		





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[Live-demo] sahana suggested to retire from OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

OSGeo-Live team,

As per below, the Sahana community have suggested they be retired from 
OSGeo-Live.


Unless someone wants to step up and volunteer to take over the 
maintenance of Sahana on OSGeo-Live, I'd be inclined to accept their 
request, thank sahana for being part of OSGeo-Live to date, and move 
them into our retired section.


Comments?

Cheers, Cameron


On 24/5/17 7:04 pm, Fran Boon wrote:

Hi Cameron,

I think it's easier if we're not included on OSGeo.
We get very little (if any) return for a fair bit of effort to keep
this updated.

Many thanks for all the support you've given us so far:)

Best Wishes,
Fran.

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Hi Gavin, Fran,

I don't think we have heard from you re this email? Any comments re version
of Sahana to include on OSGeo-Live?

Cheers, Cameron



On 15/5/17 4:58 am, Astrid Emde wrote:

OSGeo-Live 11.0 - which version of sahana should be installed?

Hi,

we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to be released at
the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in August.

We are interested to know which version of sahana should be installed on
OSGeo-Live 11.0?

Version ${"v10.5} was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.

Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!

Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a different person as
contact person, which will update your project.

We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from OSGeo-Live?

Do you think we should drop sahana from OSGeo-Live?

As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live release we intend
to  focus on quality, and as such will be asking each project:
1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to date and in
line with our documentation standards.

You can see results of our first pass review in our status spreadsheet
[2],  column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0 Doc Review".

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75

[2]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150

Key Milestones
---
  15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed on OSGeo-Live
  22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
   5-Jun-2017OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application versions
installed)
  19-Jun-2017OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application versions
installed - Beta stage)
  24-Jul-2017OSGeo-Live Final ISO
  14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston

... full schedule
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB

We are waiting for your response concerning your project sahana. Any
questions, please ask.

Warm regards,

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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo-Live CD

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time to liaise with every single project email list for each 
OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to take responsibility 
for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the project's communities. This volunteer 
will be responsible for ensuring the install scripts and English documentation 
are updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the 
installed application and Quickstart documentation works as expected on release 
candidate releases of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person.

Robert Ward,robert.w...@scisys.co.uk

OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is:
Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
Install .deb files from a PPA
Write a custom install script
Can you please discuss how your application will be installed.

A Ubuntu PPA has been created to install the package from a .deb file.

OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application run in 512 Meg 
of RAM?
Yes

How much disk space will be required to install the application and a suitable 
example application?
75MB

We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use of a common 
dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the example datasets already 
installed:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets  If another 
dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it appropriate, to 
remove existing demo datasets which may already be included in the standard 
release.

I think the GeoServer SLD Cookbook datasets should be added to the OSGeo-Live 
release.  They are not part of the SLD Editor release however they are used in 
the unit and integration testing.

Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview available under a CC By 
and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA license. (You may release under a 
second license as well). Will you produce this?
I can

In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for some 
applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in future releases. 
However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include Windows and/or Mac 
installers?
Mac installer exists.
Windows install could be created if required.


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[Live-demo] Making decisions at tomorrows irc meeting

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In tomorrows irc meeting i propose we go through our package list and
decide on the packages we want for our next release.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150

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Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo live - new candidate: Halestudio

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Dirk,

For your discussing with key sponsor agencies, who wish are making use 
of Open Source and see it as strategically important, you may wish to 
draw upon some of the logic we have put together in our proposal to the 
United Nations to fund core development of training material:


https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Di-WxImfPq5oF2jeBblxNjY0JYJoXegLc5jaTPjufM/edit?usp=drive_web=docs_home=true=CgYKBAgBEAE.

(I can't remember if I have shared this with you already)

Warm regards, Cameron


On 17/5/17 12:25 am, Dirk Frigne wrote:

Hi Cameron,

Stealth mode in the first release should be great!
Halestudio is used in several EU INSPIRE projects, and we plan to setup
a talk and a topic talk about OSGeo live on FOSS4G Paris.
There will be a specific topic talk for the INSPIRE community.

If we could disclose there the "stealth mode' we could motivate the
community to give feedabck.

The other point I want to address is to reach out to the dataproviders,
to become involved with the OSGeolive project.

As we descussed last month, we should try to find more volunteers to
support the project and become involved in some testing. By addressing
the product owners *and* the dataproviders, able to showcase their data
with OSGeo tools, I hope to strengthen the community.


All the best,
Dirk

On 2017-05-16 14:26, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Hi Dirk,

Looking through your responses, Halestudio looks to be a very strong
candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.

Whether we have time to get it included in time for OSGeo-Live 11.0 is
questionable.

For prior projects we have often taken two releases to onboard the
project to OSGeo-Live. Firstly we include the project in stealth mode.
(It is installed, but the docs are not linked into the main docs, so new
users don't accidentally use it. This gives us more time to do QA.

I'll be interested to hear thoughts from other OSGeo-Live folks. I'd
especially like to hear from anyone who has experience with Halestudio
to hear their thoughts.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 15/5/17 10:44 pm, Dirk Frigne wrote:

Hello,

Hereby we would like to ask if hale studio is appropriate to be included
on the next OSGeoLive release.
Below you can find the answers to the application questions as described
on the wiki page.

Kind regards,


Please describe your application:

  What is its name? hale studio
  What is the home page URL?
https://www.wetransform.to/products/halestudio/
  Which OSI-approved Open Source License is used? GNU Lesser General
Public Licence (LGPL) v3.0
  What does the application do and how does it add value to the
Geospatial stack of software? hale studio enables you to transform and
harmonise spatial data, with a focus on highly complex data sets. Set up
reporting, analysis and data publishing workflows easily by defining
schema mappings. Furthermore, hale studio documents the data
transformation process and its impact on data quality.
  Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions of
the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments about how
standards are used.
  Read and write GML (2.1.2 to 3.3)
  WFS client (1.1, 2.0, 2.0.2), including support for WFS
Transactions
  WMS client (1.1.0, 1.1.1, 1.3.0)
  Simple Features SQL
  JSON (RFC 7159, ECMA-404)
  GeoJSON (IETF RFC 7946)
  What language is it written in? Java, Groovy
  Which version of the application should be included in the next
OSGeo-Live release? 3.3.0

Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user finds a
bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of all other
OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention to the following
answers):

  If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application into
production, it would imply that these organisations have verified the
stability of your software. Has the application been rolled out to
production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations? Please
mention some of these organisations
  State of Hamburg (Germany)
  State of Bavaria (Germany)
  State of Rhineland-Palatinate (Germany)
  Institute of Forest Management of Baden-Württemberg (Germany)
  Armed Forces (Germany)
  SMWA Sachsen (Germany)
  GDI Südhessen (96 districts and municipalities in Germany)
  Prisma Solutions (Austria)
  IGP (Portugal)
  IRCELINE (Belgium)
  HL Consulting (Belgium)
  Statkart (Norway)
  European Environmental Agency (Denmark)

Most of these organisations sponsor continued development of the
software through support contracts.

  Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of a project.
E.g.: http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html Could
you please ensure that your project is registered with Open HUB, and
Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code repository(s)
for your project.

Re: [Live-demo] OSGeo live - new candidate: Halestudio

[Cameron Shorter]

. We publish detailed test
reports using Allure.
 Every release candidate of hale studio undergoes additional
manual/explorative testing.
 How long has the project has had mature code?
 Version 1.0 of hale studio was released in December 2009. Since
the release of version 2.0.1 in 2010, the code base can be regarded mature.
 OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use rather
than libraries. Does the application have a user interface (possibly a
command line interface) that a user can interact with? (We do make an
exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will include Project
Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't have a user interface.)
 hale studio has a graphical user interface to create
transformation projects and perform data transformations.
 With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single project email
list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer (or two) to
take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live and the project's
communities. This volunteer will be responsible for ensuring the install
scripts and English documentation are updated by someone for each
OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the installed application and
Quickstart documentation works as expected on release candidate releases
of OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person?
 Simon Templer (s...@wetransform.to)
 Florian Esser (f...@wetransform.to) as backup
 OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is:
 1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
 2. Install .deb files from a PPA
 3. Write a custom install script

Can you please discuss how your application will be installed? A custom
installation script will be used to extract the application archive at
the appropriate location and create an application launcher.

 OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application run
in 512 Meg of RAM?
 Yes, though we recommend 1 GB or more. Very large/complex
transformation projects will benefit from 2GB+.
 How much disk space will be required to install the application and
a suitable example application?
 ~380 MiB including example data sets and Java runtime
 We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use of a
common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the example
datasets already installed:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets If
another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be
included in the standard release.
 In the standard release, some demo datasets are included. These
may be removed for the installation on the OSGeo Live DVD. The default
‘Natural Earth’ dataset could be used to illustrate the potential of the
application as an ETL tool with respect to INSPIRE and complex schemas.
However, this would be better illustrated by providing a more
specialized INSPIRE dataset.
 Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview available
under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC By-SA license. (You
may release under a second license as well). Will you produce this?
 Yes. Both the Project Overview and Quickstart will be created
based on the existing project documentation, help and demos.
 In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for
some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in future
releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing to include
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[Live-demo] My apologies for missing meeting tomorrow

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi,

Sorry all, I'm going to be traveling (driving) tomorrow, and won't be 
able to attend our weekly IRC meeting.


https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?hour=20=30=0=179=189=224=22=240=196=215

I'll make a point of being online at our usual meeting time the 
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Re: [Live-demo] Retiring mapnik from OSGeo-Live?

[Cameron Shorter]

I'm taking the following conversation public - with Dane's permission.

As per below, Dane is suggesting there are not volunteers available to 
manage Mapnik's presence on OSGeo-Live, and as such is suggesting it is 
a candidate for retiring.


From the Project Overview [1]

"Mapnik is a toolkit for rendering beautiful maps, with clean, soft 
feature edges provided by quality anti-aliasing graphics, intelligent 
label placement, and scalable, SVG symbolisation. Most famously, mapnik 
is used to render the OpenStreetMap main map layers."


Metrics for the project look reasonably healthy. [2]

The Quickstart could do with some cleaning up.

Am I right in understanding that Mapnik would be considered a "library" 
and as we are refocusing on user applications, Mapnik might be a 
candidate for retiring on that basis as well?


Comments welcomed.

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/mapnik_overview.html

[2] https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html

On 12/5/17 10:49 am, Dane Springmeyer wrote:

On 11/5/17 9:47 am, Dane Springmeyer wrote:

Cameron,

Yes, there are a few of us working on Mapnik still (me included). But 
we don't have time to work on packaging or distributions.


Because I am the individual that added Mapnik to osgeo-live 
originally I would prefer you remove it.


Dane

On May 10, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Dane,

Thanks for your help with mapnik to date.

What is your assessment of the current community behind mapnik? Are 
there people working on it? If so, who would you recommend we reach 
out to?


Thanks Cameron


On 11/5/17 7:34 am, Astrid Emde wrote:

Hi Dane,

thanks for your answer.

We try to find another person to look after Mapnik. Thanks a lot 
for your help with OSGeo-Live.


Astrid

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Dane Springmeyer 
<bl...@hailmail.net <mailto:bl...@hailmail.net>> wrote:


Hi Astrid,

I am no longer active with the osgeo-love project. Can you
please offer up Mapnik maintenance to a different person
involved with osgeo-live? If you cannot find a maintainer then
you have my permission to remove mapnik from the distribution.

Dane

> On May 10, 2017, at 1:21 PM, astroi...@gmail.com
<mailto:astroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dane,
>
> we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to
be released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in
August.
>
> We are interested to know which version of mapnik should be
installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?
>
> Version 3.0.11 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.
>
> Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!
>
> Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a
different person as contact person, which will update your project.
>
> We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
> 1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
> 2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
> 3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from
OSGeo-Live?
>
> Do you think we should drop mapnik from OSGeo-Live?
>
> As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live
release we intend to focus on quality, and as such will be
asking each project:
> 1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
> 2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to
date and in line with our documentation standards.
>
> You can see results of our first pass review in our status
spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0
Doc Review".
>
> [1]
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75>
>
> [2]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150

<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
>
> Key Milestones
> ---
> 15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed
on OSGeo-Live
> 22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
>  5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application
versions installed)
> 19-Jun-2017  OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application
versions installed - Beta stage)
> 24-Jul-2017   OSGeo-Live Final ISO
> 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
>
> ... full schedule

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB

<http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE=en_GB&

[Live-demo] Draft press release

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi, I'm traveling tomorrow, and am not sure if I'll be online for weekly 
meeting.


I think we should be reaching out to projects asking them to confirm the 
version of software to be on OSGeo-Live, confirming we have a point of 
contact, and letting them know we will be expecting them to check 
project overviews and quickstarts.


I've drafted a press release which I think should go out in 2 to 3 days 
time:


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_76

I've also tweaked the schedule accordingly for next couple of milestones.

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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Standards] What should we do about OGC Standard writups on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

OSGeo-Live team,

Our OSGeo-Live documentation overviews is currently more comprehensive 
than what you can find here: 
http://cite.opengeospatial.org/pub/cite/files/edu/index.html


(These OGC docs only cover a few standards)

Documentation about OGC standards found in Wikipedia is also more 
comprehensive than the OGC docs.


Since our OSGeo-Live standards documentation is not updated or 
maintained I think we should drop the OSGeo-Live Project overviews for 
OGC standards. I would like to reference OGC documentation, but as yet, 
I don't think the OGC documentation breadth is up to a point where it 
could be considered production ready, and as such I don't think we 
should reference it.


Scott,

If you would like help in authoring such OGC Standards documentation, 
then please let me know. Do to the extent of scope required, this would 
require funding. This is a task I'd personally like to be involved in.


Warm regards,

Cameron


On 26/4/17 3:10 pm, Scott Simmons wrote:

Hi Cameron,

The documentation will be “living” and subject to intermittent update, 
so you can consider the work in the URL provided to be ready for 
production, even though it will evolve. We are implementing such 
documentation as a permanent and maintained program and will extend 
this documentation to other standards (including new standards as they 
are published). We do not yet have a timeline for “catch-up” of 
existing standards.


Best Regards,
Scott

On Apr 25, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Scott,

Thanks for your response and URL. Could you please update us on 
current status and schedule for OGC documentation.


* Is the documentation at 
http://cite.opengeospatial.org/pub/cite/files/edu/index.html 
considered draft, ready for production, other?


* Is there a maintenance program in place to ensure that this 
documentation is continuously kept up to date? Eg: to update existing 
documentation whenever a new standard is published.


* It appears that the URL provided only mentions WMS KML, SLD, SE, 
CSW standards. Is there any commitment to generate documentation for 
other standards?


Warm regards, Cameron

On 26/4/17 2:12 am, Scott Simmons wrote:

Hi Cameron,

OGC would very much like to be the source of documentation where 
possible to keep you from duplicating effort! Perhaps you could link 
to our material where it is current and useful (as you referenced in 
your mail) and I will be sure to keep you informed as we accelerate 
our “implementer-friendly” standards documentation. Examples of such 
documentation can be found here:

http://cite.opengeospatial.org/pub/cite/files/edu/index.html

Where the OSGeo community has developed superior documentation, you 
may want to stick with that material until we get our material ready.


Best Regards,
Scott

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On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Cameron Shorter 
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To date, OSGeo-Live documentation has included write ups of a 
number of OGC Standards (including both English master text and 
translations). [1]


However, this documentation hasn't been maintained for a number of 
years.


As we go through rationalising what we continue to include on 
OSGeo-Live, we are wondering what should be done about OGC 
standards text on OSGeo-Live.


I'm aware of the OGC has created some material [2], which on first 
glance looks to be more complete and more current than the 
OSGeo-Live material.


I'm interested to hear thoughts (especially from the OGC) on what 
we should do in moving forward.


* Should we drop OSGeo-Live write up of OGC Standards all together, 
as it is not core business of OSGeo? (This would free up some space 
on OSGeo-Live)


* Should we provide a reference to a OGC Standards URL? If so, 
where would that be?


* Should we make a copy OGC standards into OSGeo-Live docs? If so, 
who will take responsibility for writing and maintaining the build 
scripts.


* Would the OGC want to investigate using OSGeo-Live's existing 
translation community to translate OGC docs? If so, how should this 
be approached and who would like to coordinate it?


Thoughts will be welcomed.

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/standards/standards.html

[2] https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc_school


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Re: [Live-demo] About mapslicer/maptiler related to openHub

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Even, thanks for the introduction.

Hi Grégory,

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the usefulness MapSlicer 
(previously MapTiler), whether it is still relevant, and whether there 
are people checking on it.


As per email discussion below, we are currently debating this question 
on the OSGeo-Live project.


http://live.osgeo.org


On 27/4/17 3:25 am, Even Rouault wrote:


Hi,

FYI, Grégory Bataille (CC'ed) has recently worked on fixing various 
issues and new improvements in the gdal2tiles.py script included in 
GDAL. I'm not sure how far this is from the forked version included in 
mapslicer.


Even

> > So what do you suggest we do about MapSlicer? I'm wondering 
whether the >


>

> project is still a good candidate for including on OSGeo-Live. 
Angelos will


> probably want to answer this himself, but this is what I see: > 1. 
Is the


> project still useful and used? Difficult to say. I find it useful, and I

> (very) occasionally use it, but it doesn't appear to be widely used. I

> think it's interesting because it can do things that no other open 
product


> can do, so that's why it was considered important to "save" when 
MapTiler


> was being withdrawn. We didn't want to lose the possibilities that it

> offers. > 2. Does the project have a community behind it? No, I wouldn't

> say so. Feel free to correct me! > 3. Do we have a point of contact 
for the


> project? This email list, Angelos, me, or the github page where 
issues can


> be raised:

> https://github.com/geopython/mapslicer > 4. If we do keep the project, I

> suggest we should create OpenHub metrics > for it. By all means. I don't

> know how much effort this would be to set up, but the github 
repository is


> there so I guess it's straightforward. For sure the OpenHub metrics 
will be


> _extremely_ sparse, because since the "rescue" I don't think much 
(if any)


> development work has gone into it. If someone has ideas for how it 
could be


> improved or extended then they could add them as suggestions to 
github. If


> you do decide to keep it in OsGeo, it would be because it's useful 
and can


> play together with the other tools in there, rather than because it's an

> actively-developed project with lots of new development. That's a 
decision


> for you guys.

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Re: [Live-demo] Fwd: About mapslicer/maptiler related to openHub

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Angelos,

So what do you suggest we do about MapSlicer? I'm wondering whether the 
project is still a good candidate for including on OSGeo-Live.


1. Is the project still useful and used?

2. Does the project have a community behind it?

3. Do we have a point of contact for the project?

4. If we do keep the project, I suggest we should create OpenHub metrics 
for it.


Warm regards, Cameron


On 26/4/17 7:12 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:

forgot to CC

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From: *Vicky Vergara* <vi...@georepublic.de <mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>>
Date: Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: About mapslicer related to openHub
To: Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>>


So, the link is wrong? is it ok?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Angelos Tzotsos 
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com <mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Vicky,

Mapslicer was forked from MapTiler in the past (since MapTiler
went proprietary), so there was never an OpenHub page. We tried to
keep this project alive.

Best,
Angelos

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:27 PM, <vi...@georepublic.de
<mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>> wrote:

Hi Angelos, ActivityWorkshop,

OSGeo-Live automatically show metrics from openHub [0]. During
our visual inspection we found that openHub has a delay on
updating the metrics, and we plan to contact OpenHub to update
the metrics of all the OSGeo projects, including yours.

But before doing that, we need to verify that we have the
correct information about your project [1] and that the code
locations [3] are reviewed by your openHub manager [2].

Can you please have a look at your project’s OpenHub settings
and reply to confirm that the information is correct.
I volunteered to gather the information, so you can reply to
me directly.

Links:
[0] https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html
<https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html>
[1] openHub: https://www.openhub.net/p/Maps-Slicer
<https://www.openhub.net/p/Maps-Slicer>
[2] manger: https://www.openhub.net/p/Maps-Slicer/managers
<https://www.openhub.net/p/Maps-Slicer/managers>
[3] code locations:
https://www.openhub.net/p/Maps-Slicer/enlistments
<https://www.openhub.net/p/Maps-Slicer/enlistments>

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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Standards] What should we do about OGC Standard writups on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Scott,

Thanks for your response and URL. Could you please update us on current 
status and schedule for OGC documentation.


* Is the documentation at 
http://cite.opengeospatial.org/pub/cite/files/edu/index.html considered 
draft, ready for production, other?


* Is there a maintenance program in place to ensure that this 
documentation is continuously kept up to date? Eg: to update existing 
documentation whenever a new standard is published.


* It appears that the URL provided only mentions WMS KML, SLD, SE, CSW 
standards. Is there any commitment to generate documentation for other 
standards?


Warm regards, Cameron

On 26/4/17 2:12 am, Scott Simmons wrote:

Hi Cameron,

OGC would very much like to be the source of documentation where 
possible to keep you from duplicating effort! Perhaps you could link 
to our material where it is current and useful (as you referenced in 
your mail) and I will be sure to keep you informed as we accelerate 
our “implementer-friendly” standards documentation. Examples of such 
documentation can be found here:

http://cite.opengeospatial.org/pub/cite/files/edu/index.html

Where the OSGeo community has developed superior documentation, you 
may want to stick with that material until we get our material ready.


Best Regards,
Scott

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On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


To date, OSGeo-Live documentation has included write ups of a number 
of OGC Standards (including both English master text and 
translations). [1]


However, this documentation hasn't been maintained for a number of years.

As we go through rationalising what we continue to include on 
OSGeo-Live, we are wondering what should be done about OGC standards 
text on OSGeo-Live.


I'm aware of the OGC has created some material [2], which on first 
glance looks to be more complete and more current than the OSGeo-Live 
material.


I'm interested to hear thoughts (especially from the OGC) on what we 
should do in moving forward.


* Should we drop OSGeo-Live write up of OGC Standards all together, 
as it is not core business of OSGeo? (This would free up some space 
on OSGeo-Live)


* Should we provide a reference to a OGC Standards URL? If so, where 
would that be?


* Should we make a copy OGC standards into OSGeo-Live docs? If so, 
who will take responsibility for writing and maintaining the build 
scripts.


* Would the OGC want to investigate using OSGeo-Live's existing 
translation community to translate OGC docs? If so, how should this 
be approached and who would like to coordinate it?


Thoughts will be welcomed.

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/standards/standards.html

[2] https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc_school


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Re: [Live-demo] Retirement and rejuvenation of past programs

[Cameron Shorter]

Thanks Hamish,

You have done some wonderful work getting projects onto OSGeo-Live, but 
I'm aware that you have less time than you've had before, and as such 
the currency of the projects on OSGeo-Live have suffered.


If you know of anyone else in each of the project communities worth 
reaching out to and asking if they can help, can you please share their 
details so one of us can contact them. (Alternatively you might have a 
personal connection with them and might want to reach out yourself).


Feel free to share publicly or privately.

Cheers, Cameron


On 25/4/17 9:38 am, Hamish B wrote:

Hi all,

to document some offline discussions here are some notes on some 
packages which I've maintained in the past. (ah those halcyon days 
when I had free moments to work on things properly...)



GMT: In theory this should just be an apt-get install and minor tweak 
to the $PATH in /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile.d/.  The harder part 
is providing a decent quickstart for a complicated-to-use package. 
Package remains popular in the world of geophysics, open any AGU/EGU* 
publication, Science magazine etc and you'll see lots of GMT-produced 
maps.


[*] Hi to anyone there

MB Systems:  n.b. depends/built on GMT
 - commit metrics may show few contributers but they are full time 
funded programmers who act as the gatekeepers for community patches. 
The mailing lists and userbase is quite active.
As a meta thing I'd suggest to add some sort of mailing list/forum 
activity to the metrics as an additional indicator of project health, 
if possible. Quickstart doc could be parsed for the link?
 - Sending some needed patches to the current DebianGIS package 
maintainers is on my todo list. Alas build systems do not stand still.


OpenCPN: fun, easy to use, vibrant community, arguably better than any 
commercial offerings in the space, lots of plugins, ... but no 
marketing budget beyond word of mouth between boaties. As long as the 
packages are in good shape I'd vote to keep it going.


ZyGrib: not nearly as refined as OpenCPN but fills its niche quite 
well and puts weather forecasting in the hands of the people in a way 
that (as far as I'm aware) no other software does. Used together with 
a OpenCPN's GRIB overlay plugin there's a gorgeous gee-whiz demo 
available. I'll have to prepare a screenshot to show that off.


Sahana/Ushahidi: I really like having some blatant FOSS-for-good 
software on the disc, but the communities really need to step up here 
to maintain them. The "geo" tie may not be as "hard-geo" as geo-format 
processing tools, but at least the main work-canvas is a map and it 
passes any geo-as-global (e.g. national geographic/bbc world) test.


OSM: if metrics show Merkaartor/osmosis are withering on the vine, so 
be it.  Note some of the tools are part of the OSM data city-extract 
production tool-chain so not much extra work to keep them around. I 
assume some small background tools can be left on the disc even if a 
quickstart/summary doesn't make the cut?


R: is it "geo" enough to justify inclusion/megabytes used? (same 
question for Octave [does the m_map toolbox for Matlab work with 
Octave? FOSS-enough license?])


Viking: I haven't been paying attention to how active it is. If new 
versions are coming in from ubuntu and the install is little more than 
apt-get install I'd say keep it, otherwise if it is stalled for years 
and little interest I'd say dump it.



As a general thing, if projects want to stay they can send someone to 
help.



I'd suggest to leave GMT/MB Sys/OpenCPN/ZyGrib in my hands, and if 
updates are not in place by 15 May put non-working things onto the 
hibernation track as needed.



best regards from deep in the south pacific,
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[Live-demo] What should we do about OGC Standard writups on OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

To date, OSGeo-Live documentation has included write ups of a number of 
OGC Standards (including both English master text and translations). [1]


However, this documentation hasn't been maintained for a number of years.

As we go through rationalising what we continue to include on 
OSGeo-Live, we are wondering what should be done about OGC standards 
text on OSGeo-Live.


I'm aware of the OGC has created some material [2], which on first 
glance looks to be more complete and more current than the OSGeo-Live 
material.


I'm interested to hear thoughts (especially from the OGC) on what we 
should do in moving forward.


* Should we drop OSGeo-Live write up of OGC Standards all together, as 
it is not core business of OSGeo? (This would free up some space on 
OSGeo-Live)


* Should we provide a reference to a OGC Standards URL? If so, where 
would that be?


* Should we make a copy OGC standards into OSGeo-Live docs? If so, who 
will take responsibility for writing and maintaining the build scripts.


* Would the OGC want to investigate using OSGeo-Live's existing 
translation community to translate OGC docs? If so, how should this be 
approached and who would like to coordinate it?


Thoughts will be welcomed.

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/standards/standards.html

[2] https://github.com/opengeospatial/ogc_school


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[Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Cameron Shorter]

As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out 
two releases per year to putting out one main release per year.


We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been 
untested.


Reasons:

* As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more 
efficiently.


* We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, 
our final test process still has significant manual testing. In 
particular around reviewing and updating documentation, and testing 
quickstarts.


Please comment and or vote on this proposal.

+1 Cameron


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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Jim,

Yes you are right. I hope you might feel inspired to update the page?

Likely, the best idea would be to remove most/all existing content, 
reference the USB Quickstart [1], then add any extra information about 
your process.


[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/usb_quickstart.html


On 21/4/17 2:31 am, Jim Klassen wrote:


That wiki page is woefully out of date (seems last update for OSGeo 
Live 6.5).  I'm not sure how to coherently add onto that.


I follow the instructions using the Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator to 
create the initial image (so I can fill up unused space with a 
persistent storage file -- we have generally used 8GB USB3 thumb drives).


I have no idea if my copy_usb duplicator program is "production ready" 
or not other than it has worked well for me on multiple occasions for 
creating/updating OSGeo Live USB on about 100 sticks each time to hand 
out at conferences.  It is faster than running dd or the "Startup Disk 
Creator" for each stick and it doesn't require prior knowledge of the 
state of the stick like whatever the other tool was that I was looking 
at before I decided to write my own.  I presume it might be useful for 
others (and that's why I published it on GitHub), but I haven't heard 
of anyone else using it.  I know it is very Linux (and possibly 
Debian) specific for compiling and running.


I don't know what will work for others, just sharing what has worked 
for me.


On 04/18/2017 03:47 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:


Hi James, others,

Yes, please do share any tips, tricks and tools you have worked out 
re USB creation (and other tips) in our wiki. A starting point for 
collecting USB ideas is here:


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Quick_Start_for_USB

And if you have ideas which are "production ready", we should include 
them in our main OSGeo-Live Quickstart:

https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/usb_quickstart.html

Thanks,
Cameron

On 19/4/17 1:02 am, James Klassen wrote:
Not sure if it is useful to others but I wrote a program [1] to help 
me when Bob wants a bunch of OSGeo-Live thumb drives created.  It 
isn't by any means perfect or 100% foolproof but it sure makes the 
job quicker for me.


It takes an image and waits for USBs of the same size to be 
inserted, then copys the difference between the image and the drive 
(this is quicker as reads are much faster than writes on the thumb 
drives I have seen).  It handles multiple thumb drives at a time, so 
after starting it, it is just down to changing out drives for new 
ones as they finish copying.


I make the image running OSGeo Live in KVM and let it build a 
virtual USB at the size of the drives I have on hand.  It can help 
to have the image on a tmpfs to avoid the source being a bottleneck.


[1] https://github.com/klassenjs/copy_usb 
<https://github.com/klassenjs/copy_usb>



On Apr 18, 2017 9:49 AM, "Suchith Anand" 
<suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk 
<mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:


OSGeo Live is one of the excellent success stories of OSGeo and
it is important as a community we need to pool our
ideas/resources for not only keeping building upon this but
expanding for the future. Hence i put this in the wider lists to
stimulate ideas. For example at the recent RDA meetings in
Barcelona , i started pushing for getting sponsors to fund
dedicate staff time for OSGeo Live educational materials for UN
and other training/capacity development needs  [1] and i will
keep pushing this through all my contacts .


The ideas put by Brian are excellent for the industry/SME
ecosystem of OSGeo to start exploring and expanding. For example
Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo. Time for online version of
QGIS has come (it will be better than Arcgisonline or other
properitery ones). QGISOnline will be a true open platform .

Suchith


[1]
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-March/012009.html
<http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-March/012009.html>



From: Live-demo <live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
<mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>> on behalf of Bas
Couwenberg <sebas...@xs4all.nl <mailto:sebas...@xs4all.nl>>
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To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any
SMEs providing this ?

On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
> Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to
consider
> on this . . . what about . . .
>
> having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
> providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
> (portable) services.  For example,
>
>
>   *   Generating the Thumb Drives
>  *   These should be ge

Re: [Live-demo] "descoping" OSGeo-Live

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Activity Workshop,

Yes, you make some good points, there are a number of things we should 
be considering when selecting a project for OSGeo-Live. A more detailed 
list is provided in our application form:


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply

Cheers, Cameron

On 20/4/17 4:54 am, Activity Workshop wrote:

On 14/04/17 21:00, live-demo-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote:

While projects should rightly be concerned if OSGeo-Live only uses
OpenHub metrics to assess project health, they should be significantly
more concerned about the general public's assessment of their project.

You're correct to say that these metrics should not be the only criterion for
removing projects from OSGeo-Live.  There are so many other (in my view more
important) factors to consider:
- is the software useful?  Is the software reliable?
- is the inclusion straightforward or does it require lots of building /
packaging / patching / dependency-resolution work from the OSGeo-Live team?
- does it take up a lot of disk space?
- is the team responsive to questions from the OSGeo-Live team, are the
developers helpful with providing information and documentation?
- and many other factors too of course.


I think it should be a priority of all projects to try an ensure their
OpenHub metrics reflect the true health of their project ...

Well, OpenHub (BlackDuck) is a company.  If (in your opinion) their numbers
aren't providing a useful picture then it is arguable whether this should be put
at the door of all the unpaid open software developers, or alternatively at the
door of the company's staff and systems.

Regards,
activityworkshop

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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Cameron Shorter]

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Kind Regards,

Bas
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