[Ltsp-discuss] Help! error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally (Ubuntu 10.4)
Running ltsp-build-client --dist lucid --arch i386 is not successful: snip I: Retrieving zlib1g I: Validating zlib1g I: Chosen extractor for .deb packages: dpkg-deb I: Extracting adduser... I: Extracting base-files... error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally r...@hp-ltsp:~# I have an Amd 64 bit system, but my clients are ix86. The client system gets built when running ltsp-build-client without arguments, but my clients aren't 64 bit. Help appreciated, please! -- Anton -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Help! error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally (Ubuntu 10.4)
05.11.2010 22:00, Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Running ltsp-build-client --dist lucid --arch i386 is not successful: snip I: Retrieving zlib1g I: Validating zlib1g I: Chosen extractor for .deb packages: dpkg-deb I: Extracting adduser... I: Extracting base-files... error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally r...@hp-ltsp:~# I have an Amd 64 bit system, but my clients are ix86. The client system gets built when running ltsp-build-client without arguments, but my clients aren't 64 bit. Help appreciated, please! Ok, I found it: I had this dpkg ia32-apt-get lying around which confused things. After removing it the client building went smoothly. -- Anton -- The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book Blueprint to a Billion shares his insights and actions to help propel your business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: jam kirjoitti: CUPS server broadcasts the 'I'm here' You can't broadcast across subnets so LTSP at 192.168.0.0 network will never see CUPS server at 192.168.1.0 network THE END. James So printing with local applications works when there is only one nic on the LTSP server. If you use default LTSP setup with two nics, you are out of luck? No luck - I give up. a) Is CUPS_SERVER set in lts.conf? If it is, then what is the value? b) Does the ubuntu-studio CUPS have different configuration than the ltsp server (is CUPS shared on u-studio?) c) What is printed out when you do cat /etc/cups/client.conf in the shell on the thin client? (It should contain what you set as CUPS_SERVER) -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps = Firefox 3 bug!
Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Asmo and all others, I think I have located the problem at least to which software is failing to function as expected. I plugged my old laptop, stopped the Cups daemon and created a client.conf file and inserted ServerName myprintserver.local. I started Firefox (v 3.0), and had the same problem as I have had with our LTSP local apps: the print button was gray for all printers on the list that are configured on the primary print server! Then I did some more testing: I launched Konqueror. It gave me the normal KDE print dialogue and the printer list /and/ *drumrolls* ... a print button! I printed some pages and they printed out successfully! Then I launched Thunderbird (v2.0 something) and I could print normally also with this one! Conclusion: Firefox = 3.0 (and likely also other Mozilla/XUL apps of its generation) has a bug that does not let you print in an environment with multiple Cups servers, at least not when the master print server is CentOS 5 (or some other RHEL clone). Did some testing on the thin client. Installed Adobe Reader in the chroot, updated the image, booted and launched acroread. I could print to queues on the CentOS server. Thus it is confirmed; neither LTSP nor CUPS are failing. The problem is definitively in Firefox 3.x! Case closed as far as LTSP or CUPS are concerned! -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: a) Is CUPS_SERVER set in lts.conf? If it is, then what is the value? I did not have this one? Where it is documented? Now I have it. I don't remember where I found it :) I did some grep'ing for cups in the files of the client root tree in order to find out what printer related things Ltsp does at boot time :) snip # HP Mini 2133 [00:22:64:49:7f:f5] X_COLOR_DEPTH = 16 LDM_DIRECTX = True LDM_USERNAME = guest001 LDM_PASSWORD = edubuntu CUPS_SERVER = ubuntu-studio I have the IP address there, but if your hosts files are in order I guess you can go with the host name instead. I have this file in the global section at the beginning of the lts.conf file. b) Does the ubuntu-studio CUPS have different configuration than the ltsp server (is CUPS shared on u-studio?) No. CUPS is shared. c) What is printed out when you do cat /etc/cups/client.conf in the shell on the thin client? (It should contain what you set as CUPS_SERVER) I changed this one. r...@ltsp200:~# cat /etc/cups/client.conf #ServerName 192.168.0.254 ServerName ubuntu-studio And did have to add this manually. The Ltsp startup script which are run when your client boots adds the value of the CUPS_SERVER variable from lts.conf. I think you better not change it manually(?) r...@ltsp200:~# cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.0.2 ltsp200 192.168.0.254 server # 192.168.1.101 ubuntu-studio 192.168.1.102 ubuntu-ltsp5 I can now print from thin client to CUPS server (192.168.0.200 192.168.1.101). But I loose this all every time when thin client boots!!! Probably because the file is always generated at boot time by ltsp, and the CUPS_SERVER variable is the content inserted in to it. -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: You run CUPS on the LTSP server, right? Yes. I created a test printer queue on the LTSP server and stopped CUPS daemon on the CentOS server. Then printing worked from local apps. I started CUPS on the main server again and printing did not work anymore. I do not know CUPS well, just some basic. Is it possible to use two CUPS boxes and re-direct job from LTSP/Ubuntu box to the CUPS/CentOS box? To my knowledge this is exactly how it is set up at the moment: there is a cups deamon running on both machines, and because Browsing On is set on the ltsp server (and CentOS listens to all of the network) it can access the printers from the CentOS print server. I have at work some heavy network color printers, but we use Hardy and I do not use local applications. But they work just fine from LTSP/CUPS box. We can print just fine from ordinary LTSP sessions. I will move all my LTSP servers next summer to the Lucid, then I need this feature (local applications + CUPS), too. Sorry, I can't help you here. The cups logs did not offer any hints either. -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Is it possible to use two CUPS boxes and re-direct job from LTSP/Ubuntu box to the CUPS/CentOS box? I did little experiment, no success. Could it be that it is all the limit directives in cupsd.conf that are blocking requests from cups clients? LTSP local apps print functionality relies on the thin client acting as a cups client, so troubleshooting/debugging the client connection might offer some hints? One could disable the cups daemon on a conventional workstation and set up the client the same manner as LTSP thin clients like this: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_CUPS_client If printing does not work in this case either we know there is some configuration that is not working in cups. if this works, we can assume the client thing is set up different in ltsp clients and there might be some problem here instead? I'll ive it a test after lunch... -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps = Firefox 3 bug!
Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: PS. Did not find this bug in Mozilla Bugzilla. I'm filing a bug as we speak... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=519691 -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps = Firefox 3 bug!
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: I plugged my old laptop, stopped the Cups daemon and created a client.conf file and inserted ServerName myprintserver.local. I started Firefox (v 3.0), and had the same problem as I have had with our LTSP local apps: the print button was gray for all printers on the list that are configured on the primary print server! Then I did some more testing: I launched Konqueror. It gave me the normal KDE print dialogue and the printer list /and/ *drumrolls* ... a print button! I printed some pages and they printed out successfully! Then I launched Thunderbird (v2.0 something) and I could print normally also with this one! Laptop is fat client? Can you print form Konqueror as a local application? Laptop is a conventional workstation with a locally installed Ubuntu OS on hard drive. No CUPS daemon runnig, only the same client.conf as on Ltsp clients. I did not test Konqueror on thin clients, but Firefox fails on the laptop just the same as on thin clients! -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Slow Right Click in Firefox
Scott Balneaves kirjoitti: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 04:55:03PM -0300, Osvaldo Filho wrote: Any one has solved this problem? I also have this problem. We have an AMD 64 bit LTSP server and Intel 32 bit clients. With NX (FreeNX) this not occurs! https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb/+bug/277069 Please install Stephane's patch from his ppa. Scott Thank you Scott. However there are at least 3 different suggestion in that thread: replace some binary file with old one: install old version of xlib and then the third suggestion is patching. It is difficult to tell which thing you should do to fix the problem? I agree with the previous poster: never ever have I had performance/UI responsiveness issues with NX. Right now we have a group of people who do real work on some pretty robust (2 Ghz CPU, 2 Gbytes RAM) clients, but despite that their user experience is terrible and frustrating. Whatever issues there are that causes rejection of NX better be dealth with instead of keeping the status quo. NX works - and works fast - day in and day out - and that's what matters to the users. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, but users are giving the evil eye - and they have every reason to do so. Some are beginning to question if LTSP and Linux was the right choice, and if the grass is greener in Redmond camp. -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Slow Right Click in Firefox
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti: hi, Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 12:34 +0300 schrieb Anton Vaaranmaa: With NX (FreeNX) this not occurs! Whatever issues there are that causes rejection of NX better be dealth with instead of keeping the status quo. NX works - and works fast - day in and day out - and that's what matters to the users. feenx contains a whole copy of a very old version of the xorg libraries (which is the reason why it is not included in distributions usually, the libs are outdated and dont see security fixes) I'm not a developer, but isn't there a possibility to fork freenx and replace their current policy regarding libs to a more sane one? (Sane meaning to adopt a policy to include the most recent possible versions of xorg libraries instead) libxcb is the next generation of xlibs and aims to replace libx11 at some point, most recent distros use xcb because it is supposed to be faster and a lot smaller than xlibs [1] but as all new software it simply has bugs for which stgraber provides a fixed package in his PPA (containing the mentioned patch in a binary so your comment about what to use is moot, if you compile yourself, use the patch, if you use a distro use the package). Oh, post #31 in the thread ;) It took a while to find it. Thanks. For convenience for all readers the direct URL is: https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive comparing the speed of NX with its insecure and outdated snapshot of the old included xlibs with recent implementations of xcb is somewhat like comparing netscape 2 with firefox 3.5 :) Well I hope it will be like that. However on the unpatched vanilla Ubuntu 9.04 and it's LTSP5 it is still the other way around (speed-wise). Users of course value speed, responsiveness and reliability over anything else - as they should do. These should always top a priority list for any project intended for wide spread adoption. Update: This update does indeed work as advertised at least on my test client, so a thank you is in place :-) I'll raise a toast for Stéphane and the helpful participants of this list later tonight :-) Best regards, -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Slow Right Click in Firefox
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Right now we have a group of people who do real work on some pretty robust (2 Ghz CPU, 2 Gbytes RAM) clients, but despite that their user experience is terrible and frustrating. As I mentioned earlier Stéphane's patched packages did wonders in this regard - at least on my test client. Thanks! If you got that fast pc's why not use them as a fat client - with Linux of course. LTSP is really not a solution everywhere every time And between thin and fat clients we have local applications for LTSP: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsJaunty https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPLocalAppsFirefox https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/GetMoreFromLocalApps Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. I have experimented with local apps. For some reason client applications could not print. The print dialogue shows the printers, but the print button is gray. There is a thread of this subject on this list dating back a few weeks. Printing is a total showstopper preventing from taking advantage of local applications at all. (Our LTSP server has 8Gbit of RAM, a gigabit nic and a quad core AMD 64 bit CPU, so server hardware performance is not an issue). -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Slow Right Click in Firefox
Stefan Below kirjoitti: Oliver Grawert schrieb: comparing the speed of NX with its insecure and outdated snapshot of the old included xlibs with recent implementations of xcb is somewhat like comparing netscape 2 with firefox 3.5 :) I have the same speed issues. Scrolling in OO and firefox is choppy or when moving windows around the content goes blank And with NX it is much better And i think the most important think is user experience. What should i tell the users? to say you cannot compare an old library/system with the new one? thats silly than the new library is not as good as the old one or its programmed for a different purpose (and the your comparison with netscape2 and firefox 3.5 does not fit here) I really like the LTSP and Linux, but sometimes it makes me sad to see that the development goes in the wrong direction. (New fancy feature here and there... and so one. But its nearly impossible to set up an Linux Desktop environment thats really responsive) ciao Stefan I agree on the basic idea here: what good is a sound philosophy when the real life experience is a pain? For anything released as stable, official release the actual real life user experience should always have top priority. However as the issue has been solved - except for the fact that the stuff that fixes this problem should be (and should have been asap) in official update repositories - there is not much point debating this subject further at the moment. Ok, back to the issue at hand: If you run Ubuntu 9.04 here is what will get this fixed: a) add to your sources.list these lines: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stgraber/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/stgraber/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main b) Run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. c) Log out of X and back in on the terminal(s). You should now have a much more responsive, faster desktop experience. -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Slow Right Click in Firefox
Oliver Grawert kirjoitti: hi, Am Freitag, den 25.09.2009, 12:56 +0200 schrieb Stefan Below: the xlibs in NX are several years old and lack security updates, they wree written in a time where hardware was a lot less powerfull, how is it wrong to compate these libs with a browser that was written at a time when hardware was less powerfull and which doesnt see any security fixes anymore ? From the user perspective there is one huge difference: Netscape does not do what a user expects from a browser anymore: it does not render modern web pages as expected of a web browser. NX on the other hand, regardless of how ugly it may be under the hood, performs the task it was designed for. On the security aspect of it I agree - although in an thin client environment NX is used locally but a web browser over the internet. I really like the LTSP and Linux, but sometimes it makes me sad to see that the development goes in the wrong direction. which would be the tright direction in your opinion, stick with unsupported upstream software, leave security holes open. stay faster instead of fixing issues in new software but have support from upstream ? thats what ltsp4 did and it got to the point where the ltsp developers had to drop the ball simply because they couldnt cope with keeping the software safe and in a supportable state. if you really want the released ltsp5 versions to be bugfree, there is only one thing you can do to help out: TEST DEVELOPMENT RELEASES !!! In this particular bug the symptoms were visible to any user (all users?), so there are cases a larger group of people testing devel releases is better and cases where it had not made any difference anyway. I realize the more people you have testing devel releases the better the chances for a better working software, but I don't really see why a user should have guilt for being just that: a user. I understand that people who put time and effort to developing need gratitude and respect they deserve for their efforts, but there should not be expectation that the user feedback is not valuable unless the user is also a developer and/or devoted tester of devel releases. (How many are willing to guinea pig their production environment and make it a devel lab instead? We are a shop of less than 10 users, so there are no resources to run a test lab on parallel. At home I have a crappy RR DSL/LAN router that can not do NAT properly, so it works only in bridged mode and clients are assigned a public IP. Not much use for making home a test lab :-( help to identify bugs before the release so the bugs dont even go out to the users. if you dont do that i really dont see from where you take the right to complain about bugs that werent even introduced by ltsp but actually fixed by ltsp developers and for which exactly these ltsp developers offer bugfix packages to make your life easier. ciao oli I for one am grateful this thing was fixed. My only complaint is about the fixed stuff not making the mainstream update repository. Wishing a nice weekend to all, -- Anton -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Gideon Romm kirjoitti: The feature is already implemented. You don't need to do anything other than enable Browsing in cupsd.conf on the server, make the server Listen to the network (aside from localhost) and give permissions to / on the network. (The GUI prolly does all this for you). In terms of the chroot, you don't need to do a thing. The only caveat to that is that I have noticed that some programs prefer the version of lpr that comes with the cups-bsd package in Ubuntu, so I would install only cups-bsd in the chroot and update the image. Good luck! -Gadi Thanks for your help! Did not work out though. On the running thin client there is a file called /etc/cups/client.conf which has the 'ServerName' pointing to the LTSP server, not the CUPS server (these are not the same box). However the file is not in the chroot tree, so my guess is it is generated at boot time? How can I change it to point to the Cups server instead? Our print server is a CentOS 5 box, btw, while the LTSP server runs Ubuntu 9.04. Thanks, Anton On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 14:57 +0300, Anton Vaaranmaa wrote: Anton Vaaranmaa wrote: Hello, Now that I finally have Firefox working as a local app (the thin client not initially being able to resolve names gave trouble) I'd need to be able to print from it also. Is there an easy way to get printing working? What I (or we, our users) need is to print to the printers installed on the CUPS server of the network. (The printers are the same on the LTSP server.) What makes most sense is not spooling locally, but redirecting everything to the server(s) with the spooler. Is this feature already implemented and available? Ok, so what is the 'verdict'? Should I install a full cups daemon in the chroot and put in cupsd.conf Browsing On ? Then only for the clients that run local apps RC_FILE_03 = /etc/init.d/cupsys start or something? That way jobs are still spooled on the thin client (before they get sent to the server) which isn't what you'd want. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Gideon Romm kirjoitti: The feature is already implemented. You don't need to do anything other than enable Browsing in cupsd.conf on the server, make the server Listen to the network (aside from localhost) and give permissions to / on the network. (The GUI prolly does all this for you). In terms of the chroot, you don't need to do a thing. The only caveat to that is that I have noticed that some programs prefer the version of lpr that comes with the cups-bsd package in Ubuntu, so I would install only cups-bsd in the chroot and update the image. Good luck! -Gadi Thanks for your help! Did not work out though. On the running thin client there is a file called /etc/cups/client.conf which has the 'ServerName' pointing to the LTSP server, not the CUPS server (these are not the same box). However the file is not in the chroot tree, so my guess is it is generated at boot time? How can I change it to point to the Cups server instead? Our print server is a CentOS 5 box, btw, while the LTSP server runs Ubuntu 9.04. Thanks, Anton Correction: I set the CUPS_SERVER variable in lts.conf to point to my print spool server. Now the local apps can see the printers! There is one big but though: the 'Print' button (in Firefox) is grayed out when I put the mouse focus on a printer :-( It is not grayed out when focus is on 'Print to file'. Help appreciated! Thanks, -- Anton -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Anton Vaaranmaa wrote: Hello, Now that I finally have Firefox working as a local app (the thin client not initially being able to resolve names gave trouble) I'd need to be able to print from it also. Is there an easy way to get printing working? What I (or we, our users) need is to print to the printers installed on the CUPS server of the network. (The printers are the same on the LTSP server.) What makes most sense is not spooling locally, but redirecting everything to the server(s) with the spooler. Is this feature already implemented and available? Ok, so what is the 'verdict'? Should I install a full cups daemon in the chroot and put in cupsd.conf Browsing On ? Then only for the clients that run local apps RC_FILE_03 = /etc/init.d/cupsys start or something? That way jobs are still spooled on the thin client (before they get sent to the server) which isn't what you'd want. -- Anton -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Printing from Local apps
Hello, Now that I finally have Firefox working as a local app (the thin client not initially being able to resolve names gave trouble) I'd need to be able to print from it also. Is there an easy way to get printing working? What I (or we, our users) need is to print to the printers installed on the CUPS server of the network. (The printers are the same on the LTSP server.) What makes most sense is not spooling locally, but redirecting everything to the server(s) with the spooler. Is this feature already implemented and available? -- Anton (running Ubuntu 9.04, LTSP 5) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Skype, Webcam on LTSP
Hi, Does Skype + Webcam work on LTSP (Ubuntu 9.04)? is there some up to date Howto on setting this up? Anybody here have any experience with this? What parts can be run from the server what part(s) need to be set up and/or run locally? PS. I have set up the web cam on a conventional fat client computer. Thanks, -- Anton -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] ltsp window sclient
Edward kirjoitti: Linux termial server client for windows caveat emptor http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxts/ Why re-invent the wheel? There already is Nxclient. (Not that any of this is related to LTSP.) -- Anton -- _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Locale and keybaord layout in Ubuntu client console
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Ok, but what on earth does one have to do in order to set (Finnish) locale and keyboard for LTSP in Ubuntu (thin client console)? If you accepted finnish as a installation language in the first place No, I did not do that. and the downloaded laguage files there should be no problem with language after that? I have the following pkgs installed in the chroot: language-pack-fi language-pack-fi-base Footnote: I rather not install language-support-fi since I do not need openoffic.org or the 20 or so extra packages in the /opt/ltsp/i386 chroot. Choose language: http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5/Asennus/LTSP5_01.png Download language files: http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5/Asennus/LTSP5_43.png These are from a situation where installing the OS from scratch. I have a already installed system. http://www.arkki.info/howto/Wiki/LTSP5/Ubuntu_8.04.1_fi_FI.UTF-8.png Or did I missed something for thin client console? Non-X-Window, local (physically at the thin client itself), console environment is what I was referring to. I guess I could administer and monitor clients remotely via ssh also. However some terminals are quite low-end so I rather not run sshd on the terminals - at least not on all of them by default. I have defined in my lts.conf screen_02 as shell. In this shell the LANG etc environment is POSIX instead of fi_FI.UTF-8. When I log in on tty1 I get the following related env variables: LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.UTF-8 LESSCHARSET=latin1 Still I get only US keyboard layout :-( ...although my /etc/default/console-setup looks like this: commented lines snipped BOOTTIME_KMAP_MD5=3fa0681c9a2e3b861414b2b616ad696e ACTIVE_CONSOLES=/dev/tty[1-6] CHARMAP=UTF-8 CODESET=Lat15 FONTFACE=VGA FONTSIZE=16 XKBMODEL=pc105 XKBLAYOUT=fi XKBVARIANT= XKBOPTIONS=lv3:ralt_switch -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Locale and keybaord layout in Ubuntu client console
Anton Vaaranmaa wrote: I have defined in my lts.conf screen_02 as shell. In this shell the LANG etc environment is POSIX instead of fi_FI.UTF-8. When I log in on tty1 I get the following related env variables: LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.UTF-8 LESSCHARSET=latin1 Still I get only US keyboard layout :-( One step towards he right direction was accomlished: when I issue manually loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/fi-latin1.kmap.gz I get a Finnish keyboard layout. I guess I could put that command in a custom rc-file, but that is rather a quick, less sophiscitcated fix, don't you think? Also, I have yet to test if that provides the right kbd-layout for the built-in console shell (the tty1 console shells, the ones that do not require logging in). -- Anton -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Locale and keybaord layout in Ubuntu client console
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: I have the following pkgs installed in the chroot: language-pack-fi language-pack-fi-base Why there? If you need stuff for the thin client filesystem you need to install that stuff to the chroot (and update the image with ltsp-update-image that gets exported as client root fs). I do not have them? Perhaps you have no need for them? I'm not sure I need them either. What I need is is a keyboard layout that matches my keyboard. Umlauts is a bonus. -- Anton -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Locale and keybaord layout in Ubuntu client console
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: If you accepted finnish as a installation language in the first place No, I did not do that. ... why not? See below... If you know that you need finnish support for non-x-window programs? I need a Finnish kb layout. Language does not matter - as long as I understand it. Why installation for english or what it was in first place? I am more familiar with computer-related terminology in English. I *did* choose Finnish keyboard layout, of course. That should be enough to have the kb layout in Finnish, imo. About OOo... you can anytime install/purge OOo or any other useless program after installation... and you do not put OOo in the chroot. Installing language-support-fi in the chroot would do that - to satisfy dependencies. Using ltsp-localpps is a different kind of story, ltsp-localapps works ony in 8.10. Maybe this works after all in lts.conf LDM_LANGUAGE=fi_FI.UTF-8 XkbSymbols=fi(pc105) XkbModel=pc105 XkbLayout=fi All X-related, me thinks. I already have 'XkbLayout=fi' set. ps. See you in Valamo... ;-) Already booked, I'm afraid, but thank you for the invitation :) -- Anton -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Locale and keybaord layout in Ubuntu client console (Re: Fedora 10 and nfsmount error)
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: One more time... on the Fedora you do not need lts.conf for keyboard layout, you can keep it untouched. These two files are enough for finnish keyboard. Ok, but what on earth does one have to do in order to set (Finnish) locale and keyboard for LTSP in Ubuntu (thin client console)? Setting /etc/environment does not help, nor setting /etc/defaut/locale, nor setting /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and running locale-gen afterwards. -- Anton -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Power Management for individual clients [*SOLVED*]
Vagrant Cascadian kirjoitti: On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:12:21PM +0200, Anton Vaaranmaa wrote: Thank you very much for your advice. My scripting skills are very modest to say at least, so I used the RCFILE_01 = script approach and in my script I put the hdparm -Y /dev/sda command. I can target the client(s)that need this by placing the RCFILE_01 variable under the section for the individual client(s) in lts.conf. However when I tested it I had no luck since the command did not get executed at all :-( When I execute my script manually in a shell it works. I did remember to do an ltsp-update-image after putting the script init /etc/init.d/. what exactly is in RCFILE_01? /sbin/hdparm -Y /dev/sda /tmp/hdparmexecuted.txt you need to use the full path: RCFILE_01 = /FULL/PATH/TO/script Ok, that seamed to be the problem and now it is solved! Thank you! Funny that the the documents¹ I have been reading do not mention that the full path is needed. I assumed that custom rcfiles are specified just as custom kernel modules. ¹) http://www.ltsp.org/~sbalneav/LTSPManual.html#modules-scripts http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-en.html#AEN1201 i.e. if you placed it in /etc/init.d, then RCFILE_01 = /etc/init.d/script are other lts.conf values being respected? where is your lts.conf file? Yes, they are respected. I have tested it by adding more shells for more displays. My lts.conf file is in the chroot² and I remembered to execute ltsp-update-image after any changes. ²) Because despite my efforts lts.conf is not transfered via tftp. Probably could have to do with the fact that I have a different server (CentOS 5) doing DHCP? The LTSP server (Ubuntu 8.04) does the TFTP part and all the other required services. Does the the code for transferring of the lts.conf assume that the DHCP server and TFTP server are in all cases the same? Thanks, -- Anton - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Power Management for individual clients
Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, Am Samstag, den 29.11.2008, 21:05 +0200 schrieb Anton Vaaranmaa: Question is: how do I power off harddisks for these two thin clients only? (It would not hurt either to know how to power manage things like monitors..) i would suggest creating an initscript in your chroot, make it read an lst.conf variable (all variables in lts.conf are exported globally, so you should easily be able to read them if your script runs after the ltsp-client-setup initscript) ... just make it fire and set the necessary hdparm values if you detect a certain lts.conf variable ... then set this variable for the MAC adresses of the two clients in lts.conf ... (easiest might be to (ab)use /etc/rc.local for this) ciao oli Hi, Thank you very much for your advice. My scripting skills are very modest to say at least, so I used the RCFILE_01 = script approach and in my script I put the hdparm -Y /dev/sda command. I can target the client(s)that need this by placing the RCFILE_01 variable under the section for the individual client(s) in lts.conf. However when I tested it I had no luck since the command did not get executed at all :-( When I execute my script manually in a shell it works. I did remember to do an ltsp-update-image after putting the script init /etc/init.d/. -- Anton - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Power Management for individual clients
Hello all, We have a few new Acer Veriton L460 Mini-PCs as LTSP client machines. These came with 160 Gb disks, which of course for LTSP use are redundant. I'd like to remove them and perhaps allocate them as storage to a server, but If I open the boxes we void the warranty. If they are to be idle at least it would make more sense to not have them waste power and add to overall noise. I'd like to power off these, but have not familiarized myself with power management, let alone for LTSP. Searching Google and the ltsp-discuss archives did not offer much information. Question is: how do I power off harddisks for these two thin clients only? (It would not hurt either to know how to power manage things like monitors..) Greatful for all helpful pieces of information such as pointers to what to read on the subject, -- Anton - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] EeePC additional monitor, USB keyboard and mouse
Hi all, Is it possible to totally omit the netbook's own screen and use an external (VGA connected) monitor instead? Likewise I want to use an extenal keyboard and mouse instead of those in the netbook. Can I expect a plug it and start using experience or do I need to tweak Xorg.conf etc and build a custom squashfs image? From my description you probably guess I want to use the netbook as only a central processing unit, eg a bare thin client with no peripherals or screen. (The built-in screen and keyboard are too small and mouse too inconvenient, but the muscle of the hardware, silent operation and small physical dimensions, and of course purchase price is ideal for thin client use). Have any of you subscribers used netbooks/notebooks in this way? -- Anton - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Acer One
Asmo Koskinen kirjoitti: Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Does anybody know if the Acer One netbooks support PXE booting and LTSP5? I couldn't find any answers on Google. Asus Eee PC 4G does, I do not see any reason why not Acer One? I think any modern PC/Laptop does PXE. http://blip.tv/file/1181115 http://blip.tv/file/1181108 Best Regards Asmo Koskinen. Thanks. I might lean towards Eee PC's with external USB keyboard and external display. Local OS can be the fallback if there is downtime in LTSP. Or the SD disk could be used as local swap, -- Anton - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Acer One
Hi, Does anybody know if the Acer One netbooks support PXE booting and LTSP5? I couldn't find any answers on Google. -- Anton - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Ubuntu 7.04 - 8.04 and LTSP5
Greetings, What is the safest, and less hassle-free option if I want to upgrade the underlying distro, from Ubuntu Feisty (7.04) to 8.04, on my server running LTSP5? Update the distro and rebuild the entire thin client environment with ltsp-build-client, or just upgrade my ubuntu distro? I could live with the fact that the ltsp chroot is old (old thin client environment preserved) and the distro new - if everything works smoothly this way. I'm also OK with upgrading the thin client environment if there is only a moderate amount of tweaking the settings to fit my setup¹. ¹ dhcp is running on another server than the ltsp server. I have only one network interface configured for both servers. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] inter-user messaging
2007/9/1, Frank Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What is the best way to implement an inter-user message system on a LTSP server? It's currently running Fedora Core 6 with Gnome desktops. The objective is to allow pop-up messages between users, sort of a private MSN chat thing. On our LTSP-network we are using Jabber (ejabberd daemon) and Kopete for the clients. Ejabberd however didn't integrate that well for the init-system and I had to create a custom init-script in order to have it execute automatically at boot time. The documentation is really not aimed at new users either, so it took a while to figure the setup process out. Other than that software itself runs fine once everything was set up. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/_ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Keeping sessions open?
Fredrik Kjellman kirjoitti: Hi, I'm trying to get my user sessions to stay active even after the user logged out (as an alternative to closing the whole session). Is it possible to keep their workspace open when they turn of their thin client, and than (perhaps at another client) reconnect to this session and make it active again? Best regards, Fred NomachineNX FreeNX does this and the speed is better than VNC, straight X or X thru ssh. I log into my ltsp-desktop over the internet (DSL) and the responsiveness is as good as if I was on the same LAN. The only drawback on NX is that it breaks (*) the $DISPLAY environment variable hence you can't run NX on your thin client with local devices. (*) NX server side works like a X proxy and as a result the display variable points to the remote machine - and not the ltsp-client where your Xserver is running. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp5 on SuSe 10.0
Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: I can't find any docs covering a basic setup and configuration of Ltsp5. In Ltsp4 there was ltspadmin and the docs made it an easy task to set it all up. So, the question is: what should I do now after unpacking the Ltsp5 binaries on the SuSe server? Obviously I missed this: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5TarballInstructions My bad, sorry. More sleep - or more coffee - needed ;-) -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] ltsp-update-sshkeys not working (on SuSe 10.0)
Anton Vaaranmaa kirjoitti: Hi, I run a 7 box ltsp-network environment at a company. Since more recent hardware like the Intel Pro Gigabit nics and some newer Ati Radeon cards don't run out of the box without tweaking I got the impression that 4.2 is a little dated and wanted to try Ltsp 5. The problem is that our Ltsp server runs SuSe 10.0. I unbzipped the Ltsp5 Ubuntu Dapper tar.bz2 binaries but I have no idea what to do next. I can't find any docs covering a basic setup and configuration of Ltsp5. In Ltsp4 there was ltspadmin and the docs made it an easy task to set it all up. I did do a basic Ltsp5 setup for my home laptop (Ubuntu Feisty) which actually doesn't serve any thin clients, just to observe the setup process for Ltsp5 on an supported system. So, the question is: what should I do now after unpacking the Ltsp5 binaries on the SuSe server? Some sort of documentatuon covering the stuff that has changed and new stuff for lts.conf would also be helpful. When running ltsp-update-sshkeys I get this: sudo /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 6: tempfile: command not found /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect /usr/local/sbin/ltsp-update-sshkeys: line 21: $output: ambiguous redirect Setting up ssh_known_hosts in: /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386 install: missing destination file operand after /opt/ltsp/ubuntu_6.10_i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts Lisätietoja saa komennolla install --help. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ The ssh_known_hosts file is empty and i can't login from my Thin Client. After providing the login and password the screen goes black, i get the standard X-cursor and the LDM screen is thrown back again. Help appreciated. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Binaries unbzipped2.. now what?
I run a 7 box ltsp-network environment at a company. Since more recent hardware like the Intel Pro Gigabit nics and some newer Ati Radeon cards don't run out of the box without tweaking I got the impression that 4.2 is a little dated and wanted to try Ltsp 5. The problem is that our Ltsp server runs SuSe. I unbzipped the Ltsp5 Ubuntu Dapper tar.bz2 binaries but I have no idea what to do next. In Ltsp4 there was ltspadmin and the setup docs made it an easy task to set it all up. I did do a basic Ltsp5 setup for my home laptop (Ubuntu Feisty) which actually doesn't serve any thin clients, just to observe the setup process for Ltsp5 on an supported system. So, the question is: what should I do now after unpacking the Ltsp5 binaries on the SuSe server? -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/_ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Application Publishing Ability
Jeremy Hahn kirjoitti: I just stumbled across LTSP in search of an open source alternative to citrix presentation server. Is LTSP able to publish applications to the desktop in a windows environment? If so, where would I be able to find some documentation on how to configure this? Thanks The functionality you describe can be achived with Cygwin/X (http://x.cygwin.com/) and openssh. Performance is an issue though in WAN configurations. NoMachine NX and/or FreeNX enables you to bring an X-Window desktop at a responsive speed even over WAN's. Don't know about ability to bring single applications, because I use it only as a remote Linux desktop. LTSP on the other hand lets you boot diskless computers and presents you with a graphical login to a remote Linux/Un*x machine running the X Windowing System. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
Re: [Ltsp-discuss] [Off topic] Application Publishing Ability
Jeremy Hahn kirjoitti: well, in my searching i found this, which seems to be the closest thing i could find to accomplish what im looking for. figured i would post back to the list for sake of completion just in case it was of use to someone. http://www.cendio.com/seamlessrdp/ My apologies to everyone for being off topic This software will get you MS-Windows apps to the Linux desktop - not the other way around. Rdesktop is the Linux and Unix equivalent of the remote desktop client. What seamless RDP seems to do is provide a replacement MS-Windows shell on the Windows server that is stripped of MS-Windows GUI components like window decorations, close buttons etc. The Rdesktop client then has the normal X-Window look and feel making the windows app look the same as the native GUI apps for Linux/Unix users. However this piece of software is useful for us who run a LTSP network with needs to provide MS-Windows apps to our users. Thanks for the tip. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
[Ltsp-discuss] Ltsp5 on SuSe 10.0
Hi, I run a 7 box ltsp-network environment at a company. Since more recent hardware like the Intel Pro Gigabit nics and some newer Ati Radeon cards don't run out of the box without tweaking I got the impression that 4.2 is a little dated and wanted to try Ltsp 5. The problem is that our Ltsp server runs SuSe 10.0. I unbzipped the Ltsp5 Ubuntu Dapper tar.bz2 binaries but I have no idea what to do next. I can't find any docs covering a basic setup and configuration of Ltsp5. In Ltsp4 there was ltspadmin and the docs made it an easy task to set it all up. I did do a basic Ltsp5 setup for my home laptop (Ubuntu Feisty) which actually doesn't serve any thin clients, just to observe the setup process for Ltsp5 on an supported system. So, the question is: what should I do now after unpacking the Ltsp5 binaries on the SuSe server? Some sort of documentatuon covering the stuff that has changed and new stuff for lts.conf would also be helpful. -- Anton - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ _ Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
