Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

Then it probably wasn't related to infrastructure. If it was service level,
perhaps it violated net neutrality?

On Oct 8, 2016 11:34 AM, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
> I came up with a solution to make access to the networks cheaper and you
> were very against it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 18:12, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> I do not recall saying that we should not aim to reduce the cost of
>> service delivery, or that we should not try to increase penetration.
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 11:09 AM, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kyle,
>>> I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not
>>> to mess with price. You said it will sort itself out "eventually".
>>> I hope you enjoy the quotes I have sent and will be willing to guide us
>>> leverage these resources into developmental usage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 16:01, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration
 -- but we are on the right track as a country.

 However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
 enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
 services :)

 On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> And I am saying access is licked!
> It is done!
> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
> investment into content.
> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things
> that come with good access.
> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from
> this current "me too" model of investment/innovation
> I am sure we can get more done.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>>
>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues
>> if they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of
>> availability, affordability, or whatever reason).
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kyle,
>>>
>>> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes
>>> "access to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
>>> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
>>> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
>>> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
>>> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and
 increased reliability.

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make
> money.
> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
> 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

Kyle,
I came up with a solution to make access to the networks cheaper and you
were very against it.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 18:12, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> I do not recall saying that we should not aim to reduce the cost of
> service delivery, or that we should not try to increase penetration.
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 11:09 AM, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> Kyle,
>> I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not
>> to mess with price. You said it will sort itself out "eventually".
>> I hope you enjoy the quotes I have sent and will be willing to guide us
>> leverage these resources into developmental usage.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 16:01, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration
>>> -- but we are on the right track as a country.
>>>
>>> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
>>> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
>>> services :)
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 And I am saying access is licked!
 It is done!
 Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
 investment into content.
 Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things
 that come with good access.
 We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from
 this current "me too" model of investment/innovation
 I am sure we can get more done.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>
> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of 
> availability,
> affordability, or whatever reason).
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> Kyle,
>>
>> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access
>> to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
>> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
>> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
>> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
>> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and
>>> increased reliability.
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make
 money.
 How does that help the average Ugandan?






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer 
 wrote:

> James,
>
> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach
> Uganda's borders 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[paul muwanguzi]

Thanks a lot James. Sorry my phone just recent the old message.
This is helpful info. Slow but steady is good for now.
Thanks

On Saturday, 8 October 2016, paul muwanguzi 
wrote:

> Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have
> been on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months.
> I believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great
> deal and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure
> establishment and advance in one way or another, (correct me if I'm
> wrong) I believe it's up to us now to identify the opportunities this
> presents to us, since we have internet access let's think global in terms
> of the services we offer. Let's look beyond the continental boundaries and
> go beyond.
> Once again, thanks a lot Kyle , James plus everyone else that has
> contributed.
>
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  > wrote:
>
>> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration
>> -- but we are on the right track as a country.
>>
>> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
>> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
>> services :)
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> And I am saying access is licked!
>>> It is done!
>>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
>>> investment into content.
>>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
>>> come with good access.
>>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from
>>> this current "me too" model of investment/innovation
>>> I am sure we can get more done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
 sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.

 Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
 they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
 affordability, or whatever reason).

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access
> to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and
>> increased reliability.
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make
>>> money.
>>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 James,

 Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach
 Uganda's borders and upcountry markets.

 Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
 infrastructure.

 Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
 UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this 
 infrastructure.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[paul muwanguzi]

Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have been
on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months. I
believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great deal
and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure establishment
and advance in one way or another, (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe it's
up to us now to identify the opportunities this presents to us, since we
have internet access let's think global in terms of the services we offer.
Let's look beyond the continental boundaries and go beyond.
Once again, thanks a lot Kyle , James plus everyone else that has
contributed.

On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration --
> but we are on the right track as a country.
>
> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
> services :)
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  > wrote:
>
>> And I am saying access is licked!
>> It is done!
>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
>> investment into content.
>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
>> come with good access.
>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from this
>> current "me too" model of investment/innovation
>> I am sure we can get more done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer > > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
>>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>>>
>>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
>>> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
>>> affordability, or whatever reason).
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi" >> > wrote:
>>>
 Kyle,

 we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access
 to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
 What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
 reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
 We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
 content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug


   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer > wrote:

> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
> reliability.
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  > wrote:
>
>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer > > wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
>>> borders and upcountry markets.
>>>
>>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
>>> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this 
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Regards,

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

I do not recall saying that we should not aim to reduce the cost of service
delivery, or that we should not try to increase penetration.

On Oct 8, 2016 11:09 AM, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
> I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not to
> mess with price. You said it will sort itself out "eventually".
> I hope you enjoy the quotes I have sent and will be willing to guide us
> leverage these resources into developmental usage.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 16:01, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration
>> -- but we are on the right track as a country.
>>
>> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
>> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
>> services :)
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> And I am saying access is licked!
>>> It is done!
>>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
>>> investment into content.
>>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
>>> come with good access.
>>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from
>>> this current "me too" model of investment/innovation
>>> I am sure we can get more done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
 sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.

 Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
 they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
 affordability, or whatever reason).

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access
> to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and
>> increased reliability.
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make
>>> money.
>>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 James,

 Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach
 Uganda's borders and upcountry markets.

 Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
 infrastructure.

 Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
 UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this 
 infrastructure.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available,
> what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

Paul, Let me blow your mind with what is happening currently by quoting
some people I have been talking to.

"Phase 1: The NBI just got connected  to NMS a couple of days ago.  We have
just tested the  internet (4mbs),  it seems okay.  Next we are going to
transfer the IFMS to the NBI.
Phase2: We hope to talk to PPDA (ppms),  BOU (payment system) and URA
(etax) so that their respective  services  are transferred to the NBI that
is if they are willing. These may require  your intervention too.

Phase 3: To connect up all our regional offices to the NBI (we have already
written to you).  This will enable us to provide several services to them
directly from our primary site in Entebbe. In addition we hope to enable
 biometric access for HR purposes and CCTV for security purposes ateach of
the offices.
Last phase will be decided as we grow. "
"my institution has connected all to the above services..we are also
running institutional services over the NBI"
"We shall also be upgrading our systems to allow our top tier health
facilities  access and better service.  We hope to provide the services
through the NBI. Thus we wrote to PS ministry  of health to work with NITA
to ensure that all these hospitals  are already on NBI when the upgrades
are through"
"...some general statistics, currently we 267 sites connected to the NBI,
we plan to have 302 by the end FY16/17. Planned to be connected in 17/18 is
232. Of these we 124, using Internet, 42 on IFMS. We are planning to have
all the sites connected to the NBI to move all their IFMS operations to the
NBI. Of the connected ones we have 6URA offices majorly the border posts
and are in the process of migrating their services to the NBI."
"NDA  (Headquarters,  Entebbe, mulago, Nakawa, Busia & Malaba)also
connected. No major concerns so far. Maintain the quality 7 other branches
will be connected soonest."
"OAG too on the NBI. and we are planning to connect all our upcountry
sites. So far I'd say 100% uptime. Never had an issue. And SLA well
maintained. Constant feedback"

This response was from just four of the possible 17 government
organisations I was able to get feedback from.
Sadly, the above is still mostly to give these offices access to internet
but we are getting there slowly by slowly.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 17:15, paul muwanguzi  wrote:

> Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have
> been on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months.
> I believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great
> deal and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure
> establishment and advance in one way or another, (correct me if I'm
> wrong) I believe it's up to us now to identify the opportunities this
> presents to us, since we have internet access let's think global in terms
> of the services we offer. Let's look beyond the continental boundaries and
> go beyond.
> Once again, thanks a lot Kyle , James plus everyone else that has
> contributed.
>
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration
>> -- but we are on the right track as a country.
>>
>> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
>> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
>> services :)
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> And I am saying access is licked!
>>> It is done!
>>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
>>> investment into content.
>>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
>>> come with good access.
>>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from
>>> this current "me too" model of investment/innovation
>>> I am sure we can get more done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
 sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.

 Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
 they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
 affordability, or whatever reason).

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

Kyle,
I say access is licked because you (my internet conscience) told me not to
mess with price. You said it will sort itself out "eventually".
I hope you enjoy the quotes I have sent and will be willing to guide us
leverage these resources into developmental usage.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 16:01, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration --
> but we are on the right track as a country.
>
> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
> services :)
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> And I am saying access is licked!
>> It is done!
>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
>> investment into content.
>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
>> come with good access.
>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from this
>> current "me too" model of investment/innovation
>> I am sure we can get more done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
>>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>>>
>>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
>>> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
>>> affordability, or whatever reason).
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 Kyle,

 we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access
 to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
 What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
 reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
 We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
 content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
> reliability.
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
>>> borders and upcountry markets.
>>>
>>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
>>> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this 
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kyle Spencer
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 Kyle,

 other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available,
 what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
 Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to
 be a white elephant.
 I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on
 this.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[paul muwanguzi]

Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have been
on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months. I
believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great deal
and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure establishment
and advance in one way or another, (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe it's
up to us now to identify the opportunities this presents to us, since we
have internet access let's think global in terms of the services we offer.
Let's look beyond the continental boundaries and go beyond.
Once again, thanks a lot Kyle , James plus everyone else that has
contributed.

On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration --
> but we are on the right track as a country.
>
> However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
> services :)
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  > wrote:
>
>> And I am saying access is licked!
>> It is done!
>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
>> investment into content.
>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
>> come with good access.
>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from this
>> current "me too" model of investment/innovation
>> I am sure we can get more done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer > > wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
>>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>>>
>>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
>>> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
>>> affordability, or whatever reason).
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi" >> > wrote:
>>>
 Kyle,

 we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access
 to internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
 What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
 reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
 We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
 content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug


   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer > wrote:

> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
> reliability.
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  > wrote:
>
>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer > > wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
>>> borders and upcountry markets.
>>>
>>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
>>> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this 
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Regards,

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration --
but we are on the right track as a country.

However, you are correct to suggest that  we now have a sufficiently
enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and
services :)

On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> And I am saying access is licked!
> It is done!
> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
> investment into content.
> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
> come with good access.
> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from this
> current "me too" model of investment/innovation
> I am sure we can get more done.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure
>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>>
>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
>> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
>> affordability, or whatever reason).
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kyle,
>>>
>>> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access to
>>> internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
>>> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
>>> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
>>> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
>>> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
 reliability.

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
>> borders and upcountry markets.
>>
>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
>> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this 
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kyle Spencer
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kyle,
>>>
>>> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available,
>>> what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
>>> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to
>>> be a white elephant.
>>> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on
>>> this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 James,

 It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
 government, which owns the NBI).

 There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to
 initiatives like these.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

 Kyle, I just want the fiber to 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

And I am saying access is licked!
It is done!
Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new
investment into content.
Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that
come with good access.
We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from this
current "me too" model of investment/innovation
I am sure we can get more done.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure sharing
> and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.
>
> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if
> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
> affordability, or whatever reason).
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> Kyle,
>>
>> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access to
>> internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
>> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
>> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
>> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
>> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
>>> reliability.
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
 How does that help the average Ugandan?






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> James,
>
> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
> borders and upcountry markets.
>
> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
> infrastructure.
>
> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The
> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this infrastructure.
>
> Regards,
> Kyle Spencer
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> Kyle,
>>
>> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available,
>> what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
>> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be
>> a white elephant.
>> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on
>> this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
>>> government, which owns the NBI).
>>>
>>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to
>>> initiatives like these.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kyle Spencer
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead
>>> of for the companies selling it.
>>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or
>>> refute that.
>>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a
>>> race for the bottom soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure sharing
and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how.

Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if they
can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability,
affordability, or whatever reason).

On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access to
> internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are
> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
>> reliability.
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
>>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 James,

 Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
 borders and upcountry markets.

 Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
 infrastructure.

 Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The UIXP,
 for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this infrastructure.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available,
> what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be
> a white elephant.
> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on
> this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
>> government, which owns the NBI).
>>
>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives
>> like these.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kyle Spencer
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead
>> of for the companies selling it.
>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or
>> refute that.
>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a
>> race for the bottom soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's true Kyle.
>>>
>>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because
>>> a few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by
>>> someone on behalf of zuku .
>>>
>>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth
>>> price lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku 
>>> planning to
>>> offer a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the
>>> home user, that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>>>
>>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

Kyle,

we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access to
internet" is a panacea to all our problems.
What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are reports
and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked.
We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk
content. We should talk about what we can do with this access.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
> reliability.
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
>> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
>>> borders and upcountry markets.
>>>
>>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The UIXP,
>>> for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kyle Spencer
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 Kyle,

 other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what
 coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
 Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a
 white elephant.
 I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> James,
>
> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
> government, which owns the NBI).
>
> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives
> like these.
>
> Regards,
> Kyle Spencer
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead
> of for the companies selling it.
> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or
> refute that.
> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a
> race for the bottom soon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
> wrote:
>
>> That's true Kyle.
>>
>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a
>> few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by 
>> someone
>> on behalf of zuku .
>>
>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth
>> price lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning 
>> to
>> offer a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the
>> home user, that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>>
>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply
>> designed for the questionnaire.
>>
>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing
>>> trend in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to 
>>> government
>>> support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

The cost of Internet access in Uganda is not entirely within the control of
ISPs who operate here, nor is it solely a matter of which last mile
technology is used :)

On Oct 8, 2016 07:38, "Roy Mukasa"  wrote:

> Guys i think those costs could be achievable if ISPs decide to use
> solutions such as Hydrotec (read more http://www.craley.com/
> atlantis-hydrotec/). Greencom in South Africa is using similar
> technologies for the Fibre to the home (FTTH) last mile. Read here
> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/fibre/145969-ftth-last-
> mile-through-your-water-pipes-in-photos.html
> I think the future is now :)
>
> Regards
>
> On 8 Oct 2016, at 2:12 PM, James Makumbi  wrote:
>
> Kyle,
>
> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what
> coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a
> white elephant.
> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
>> government, which owns the NBI).
>>
>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives
>> like these.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kyle Spencer
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of
>> for the companies selling it.
>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
>> that.
>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race
>> for the bottom soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's true Kyle.
>>>
>>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a
>>> few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone
>>> on behalf of zuku .
>>>
>>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
>>> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
>>> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
>>> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>>>
>>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply
>>> designed for the questionnaire.
>>>
>>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend
 in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government
 support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI

 On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> That is the problem with my country!
> We do absolutely nothing together.
> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
> merged.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from My Cellphone
>>
>> ___
>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug
>>
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>> LUG@linux.or.ug
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>>
>> The above 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and increased
reliability.

On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
> How does that help the average Ugandan?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
>> borders and upcountry markets.
>>
>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The UIXP,
>> for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this infrastructure.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kyle Spencer
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> Kyle,
>>>
>>> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what
>>> coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
>>> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a
>>> white elephant.
>>> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 James,

 It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
 government, which owns the NBI).

 There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives
 like these.

 Regards,
 Kyle Spencer

 On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

 Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of
 for the companies selling it.
 Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
 that.
 Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a
 race for the bottom soon.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
 wrote:

> That's true Kyle.
>
> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a
> few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by 
> someone
> on behalf of zuku .
>
> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth
> price lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning 
> to
> offer a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home
> user, that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>
> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply
> designed for the questionnaire.
>
> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend
>> in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government
>> support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> That is the problem with my country!
>>> We do absolutely nothing together.
>>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were
>>> first world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
>>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
>>> merged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys,

 Does anyone have 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make money.
How does that help the average Ugandan?






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> James,
>
> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
> borders and upcountry markets.
>
> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
> infrastructure.
>
> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The UIXP,
> for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this infrastructure.
>
> Regards,
> Kyle Spencer
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> Kyle,
>>
>> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what
>> coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
>> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a
>> white elephant.
>> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> James,
>>>
>>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
>>> government, which owns the NBI).
>>>
>>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives
>>> like these.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kyle Spencer
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of
>>> for the companies selling it.
>>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
>>> that.
>>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race
>>> for the bottom soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's true Kyle.

 However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a
 few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone
 on behalf of zuku .

 Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth
 price lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to
 offer a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home
 user, that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .

 Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply
 designed for the questionnaire.

 In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.



 On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend
> in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government
> support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
>> That is the problem with my country!
>> We do absolutely nothing together.
>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were
>> first world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
>> merged.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth
>>> rates?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from My Cellphone
>>>
>>> ___
>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug
>>>
>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to:
>>> 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

James,

Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach Uganda's
borders and upcountry markets.

Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower
infrastructure.

Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The UIXP, for
example, has at least 5 peers connected via this infrastructure.

Regards,
Kyle Spencer

On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> Kyle,
>
> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what
> coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a
> white elephant.
> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> James,
>>
>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
>> government, which owns the NBI).
>>
>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives
>> like these.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kyle Spencer
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of
>> for the companies selling it.
>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
>> that.
>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race
>> for the bottom soon.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's true Kyle.
>>>
>>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a
>>> few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone
>>> on behalf of zuku .
>>>
>>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
>>> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
>>> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
>>> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>>>
>>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply
>>> designed for the questionnaire.
>>>
>>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>>
 You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend
 in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government
 support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI

 On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> That is the problem with my country!
> We do absolutely nothing together.
> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
> merged.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from My Cellphone
>>
>> ___
>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug
>>
>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to:
>> LUG@linux.or.ug
>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/
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>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug
>>
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>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/
>>
>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them
>> (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible
>> for them in any way.
>>
>
>
> ___
> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug
>

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Roy Mukasa]

Guys i think those costs could be achievable if ISPs decide to use solutions 
such as Hydrotec (read more http://www.craley.com/atlantis-hydrotec/ 
). Greencom in South Africa is using 
similar technologies for the Fibre to the home (FTTH) last mile. Read here 
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/fibre/145969-ftth-last-mile-through-your-water-pipes-in-photos.html
 

I think the future is now :)

Regards
> On 8 Oct 2016, at 2:12 PM, James Makumbi  wrote:
> 
> Kyle,
> 
> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what 
> coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a white 
> elephant. 
> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> James S. K. Makumbi  
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
> Phone: 0783354036
> Mobile: 0790834364
> Website: billable.co.ug 
> Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug 
>      
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  > wrote:
> James,
> 
> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and government, 
> which owns the NBI).
> 
> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives like 
> these.
> 
> Regards,
> Kyle Spencer
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  > wrote:
> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of for 
> the companies selling it.
> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute that.
> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race for 
> the bottom soon.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> James S. K. Makumbi  
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
> Phone: 0783354036 
> Mobile: 0790834364 
> Website: billable.co.ug 
> Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug 
>      
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi  > wrote:
> That's true Kyle. 
> 
> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few 
> days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on 
> behalf of zuku . 
> 
> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price 
> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer a 
> 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user, that's 
> supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv . 
> 
> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed for 
> the questionnaire. 
> 
> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  > wrote:
> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in 
> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support 
> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
> 
> 
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi" > wrote:
> That is the problem with my country!
> We do absolutely nothing together.
> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first world, 
> we would probably even have our own standards!!!
> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and merged.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> James S. K. Makumbi  
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
> Phone: 0783354036 
> Mobile: 0790834364 
> Website: billable.co.ug 
> Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug <>
>      
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi > 
> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sent from My Cellphone 
> 
> ___
> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug 
> 
> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug 
> <>
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> 
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> 
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> 
> 
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> 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

Kyle,

other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, what
coutrywide initiative have we seen using it?
Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to be a
white elephant.
I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on this.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> James,
>
> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
> government, which owns the NBI).
>
> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives like
> these.
>
> Regards,
> Kyle Spencer
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>
> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of
> for the companies selling it.
> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
> that.
> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race
> for the bottom soon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi 
> wrote:
>
>> That's true Kyle.
>>
>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few
>> days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on
>> behalf of zuku .
>>
>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
>> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
>> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
>> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>>
>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed
>> for the questionnaire.
>>
>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>>
>>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
>>> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
>>> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 That is the problem with my country!
 We do absolutely nothing together.
 Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
 world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
 There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
 merged.






 James S. K. Makumbi
 Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

- Phone: 0783354036
- Mobile: 0790834364
- Website: billable.co.ug
- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

   
 



 On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
 wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from My Cellphone
>
> ___
> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug
>
> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to:
> LUG@linux.or.ug
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>
> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them
> (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible
> for them in any way.
>


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>>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from My 

Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[paul muwanguzi]

That's what I thought Kyle. Though what if the future is now ? :D

On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> 40Mbps at 300k is unrealistic given the current cost of wholesale
> bandwidth in Uganda -- though it might be possible in a few years :)
>
> Regards,
> Kyle Spencer
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:44, "paul muwanguzi"  > wrote:
>
>> That's true Kyle.
>>
>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few
>> days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on
>> behalf of zuku .
>>
>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
>> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
>> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
>> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>>
>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed
>> for the questionnaire.
>>
>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer > > wrote:
>>
>>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
>>> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
>>> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>>
 That is the problem with my country!
 We do absolutely nothing together.
 Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
 world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
 There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
 merged.






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> Hi guys,
>
> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>
>
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Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

Paul,

40Mbps at 300k is unrealistic given the current cost of wholesale bandwidth
in Uganda -- though it might be possible in a few years :)

Regards,
Kyle Spencer

On Oct 8, 2016 06:44, "paul muwanguzi"  wrote:

> That's true Kyle.
>
> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few
> days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on
> behalf of zuku .
>
> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>
> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed
> for the questionnaire.
>
> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
>> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
>> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> That is the problem with my country!
>>> We do absolutely nothing together.
>>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
>>> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
>>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
>>> merged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys,

 Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?




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Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

James,

It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and
government, which owns the NBI).

There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to initiatives like
these.

Regards,
Kyle Spencer

On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of for
the companies selling it.
Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
that.
Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race
for the bottom soon.






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   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi  wrote:

> That's true Kyle.
>
> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few
> days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on
> behalf of zuku .
>
> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>
> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed
> for the questionnaire.
>
> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
>> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
>> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> That is the problem with my country!
>>> We do absolutely nothing together.
>>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
>>> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
>>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
>>> merged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys,

 Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?




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Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country instead of for
the companies selling it.
Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or refute
that.
Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see a race
for the bottom soon.






James S. K. Makumbi
Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited

   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi  wrote:

> That's true Kyle.
>
> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few
> days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on
> behalf of zuku .
>
> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
> lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
> a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
> that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .
>
> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed
> for the questionnaire.
>
> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:
>
>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
>> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
>> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:
>>
>>> That is the problem with my country!
>>> We do absolutely nothing together.
>>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
>>> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
>>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and
>>> merged.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James S. K. Makumbi
>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>>
>>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>>
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi guys,

 Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?




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Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[paul muwanguzi]

That's true Kyle.

However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is because a few
days a go I filled in a quationnare that was presented to me by someone on
behalf of zuku .

Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of bandwidth price
lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to see zuku planning to offer
a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- UGX . For the home user,
that's supposed to cover both Internet and pay tv .

Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply designed
for the questionnaire.

In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know.



On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer  wrote:

> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
> Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
> for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI
>
> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  > wrote:
>
>> That is the problem with my country!
>> We do absolutely nothing together.
>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
>> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and merged.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James S. K. Makumbi
>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>>
>>- Phone: 0783354036
>>- Mobile: 0790834364
>>- Website: billable.co.ug
>>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>>
>>
>>   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[Kyle Spencer]

You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing trend in
Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to government support
for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI

On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi"  wrote:

> That is the problem with my country!
> We do absolutely nothing together.
> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
> world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and merged.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> James S. K. Makumbi
> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited
>
>- Phone: 0783354036
>- Mobile: 0790834364
>- Website: billable.co.ug
>- Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug
>
>   
> 
>
>
>
> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LUG] Zuku fiber

[James Makumbi]

That is the problem with my country!
We do absolutely nothing together.
Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we were first
world, we would probably even have our own standards!!!
There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled and merged.






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   - Phone: 0783354036
   - Mobile: 0790834364
   - Website: billable.co.ug
   - Email: jmaku...@billable.co.ug

  




On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi  wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?
>
>
>
>
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[LUG] Zuku fiber

[paul muwanguzi]

Hi guys,

Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber bandwidth rates?




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[LUG] Out of Office

[peter]

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out! However, I'm currently out of office (until Oct 16th) 
and have limited to no access to email.

In case of anything urgent related to
1. R please contact my colleague Rose Atkinson on r...@solarnow.eu.
2. Procurement please contact Doreen on procurem...@solarnow.eu.
3. ICT, please get in touch with Sauda on mi...@solarnow.eu

Anything else that really can't wait til I'm back? - Please send your email to 
i...@solarnow.eu.

Kind Regards,
Peter Huisman


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